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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome ladies and gentlemen to a very special edition. This
is a special report of the Hagman Report, don't I
don't say that often. This is a very special report.
And with me is a very special guest. Having a
book that becomes a worldwide bestseller before even exists on

(00:42):
the market. That's that's Jonathan Kahn, and he wrote a book,
and I have the book I was. I was so
fortunate to get a copy of the advanced reader's copy
as well as the final draft of The Dragon's Prophecy.
We're going to be talking about The Dragon's Prophecy, and again,

(01:03):
it's a first book that became a global bestseller before
it was before it was even on the market. Now,
it went on the market, it went for sale. It
was released officially, however, you want to say that on
September third of this year, and I've got to say
that there's no other book like it. When I when

(01:23):
I read it, and I reread it because I had
to go through it. It was information heavy and then
I would check my Bible and then go back to
the book. And I'll tell you something, it captivated me
like no other book captivated me. So I humbly requested
that I asked Jonathan gone to come on and talk

(01:46):
about his book. Folks, you will be blessed by his book.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You will be.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't care what you have to do if you
have to go to a library, if you have to,
you know, take a loan at the Barnes and no
or whatever. I'm just kidding about that, but I mean,
whatever you've got to do, you've got to read The
Dragon's Prophecy because it really ties current events together. In fact,
Steve Quayle talks the things that Steve Quayle talks about.

(02:13):
Even though the first page really grabbed me because the
question was asked, you know, is there another realm that
we're not seeing that exists out there that's guiding the
current events in the physical And of course you've heard
Steve talking about that, You've heard me talk about that
with others, and that's kind of what we're going to
be talking about. So I don't want to take up

(02:35):
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(05:02):
overstate the importance of The Dragon's Prophecy, the book written
by Jonathan Kahn. Here it is right here, folks, please,
in order to understand the events of today, and especially
what we're seeing on the streets all around us, the
uprisings of.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
The violence, the.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Hatred for different classes of people, including and especially the
Jewish people. It's just it's hard to really wrap your
mind around. Well, you can make sense of it. Dragons,
the Dragon's Prophecy, and folks, you can get this in
a number of number of locations, including but not limited

(05:45):
to Amazon.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
And I'll ask Jonathan Conn.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Exactly where we should go to get the book and
he'll explain all of that here. But with me right
now again, it's my pleasure to bring on Jonathan Conn,
a good friend of mine, good friend of the program,
and I just appreciate all he does.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
How you doing, sir, Great and great to be back
with you. You're you're It's one of the favorite programs
I do, and you're one of the I'm truly you're
one of the favorite people I speak to. I'm always blessing.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, you bless you, bless me and you bless Eric,
the tech and the audience, and we're so thankful to
have you with us. So again I mentioned at the beginning,
this is your first book that became a bestseller before
it even was published, with how does that work?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, I've never seen it work before. So this is
the book has been so unique and different in that,
first of all, I didn't plan on writing it. I
was I was writing, working or getting ready to write
the next book, and I got interrupted by the Lord.
I was actually in my car with my three sons
taking them to school, and I saw my mind's eye
a dragon, a red dragon, and I knew this is

(06:55):
from revelation, and the Lord was saying, with all that
was happening in the world, you know, actually what was
happening in the world world was prophetic and gigantically, so
so what I started writing the book, The Dragon's Prophecy,
and you know I had not finished it. I mentioned
it on you know, one of one or of the
YouTube videos I did, and the thing, people started pre

(07:18):
ordering it. It didn't exist, you know, and it became
a global bestseller.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Doug, I don't know how that happens.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was one it went into the top twenty of
all books in the world, and it didn't exist, you know,
I mean, it didn't put So I know this is
the Lord, you know, and there's so much behind this
that you know, it's so in that what I was writing.
I'm writing it, I'm writing about events and events in
the world are coming true based on as I'm writing it,

(07:47):
and then I had to keep rewriting because it kept
coming true.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I've never had that happen before.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And also I've never had happen, you know, so much warfare,
which is what you'd expect with a book called The
Dragon's Prophecy, you know, even like example, at one point
I'm doing I'm writing about the dragon in revelation and
the flood that comes out of his mouth to flood
away God's people. And as I'm writing about the flood,
a flood comes and you know, and makes our building,

(08:14):
our headquarters, into an island. And then finally it goes down.
And then the next day another flood comes, not with
a storm like the first one, but because of a
freak water main breaking on our street, it recreates it
that goes down a third flood as I'm writing about
the flood the third. So finally it stopped when I
moved on from writing about that. So, but that was
the beginning, you know, because it is real, you know,

(08:37):
the the enemy is real, and the warfare is real,
and we're all actually dealing with it. So that was
so there were so many unique things about this book
that you know, from the beginning to that. And then
I'm right, I begin writing it, and you know, the
Dragon's prophecy. It turns out I had no idea, but
it turns out, you know, the Chinese New Year, it's
the Year of the Dragon. You know.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
It turns out there's a there's a common that.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Comes sweeps by Earth every about seventy years, and it
came by. It's this year, and it's called the Mother
of Dragon's comic. It turns out this year, all over
New York City dragons started appearing part of our promotion.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
But it was crazy Year of the Dragon, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So you know, I know that this is for this hour,
and this is for God's time, and the thing is
that you know all the more when you get opposition,
you know, you know, like this, you know all the
more there's a force that doesn't want God's people to
get the word that you're writing.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
So I know it is for now.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I know, And that's why the other thing is that
we've never had so much inch, so much like a groundswell.
I mean, I've always been blessed by the Lord that
these have all been bestsellers, but this one is like
the people pre ordering is about three times anything we've
ever seen. So we've just never seen anything like it.
So I know it is His the Lord for this hour.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know, I can relate and this obviously I don't
want to bring me into it, but I can relate
to the warfare aspect of this well. When you I
find that when you're over a target, or you're dealing
with something very very special annointed by God, I think
a topic or a task, the blowback by the demonic,
by the demonic realm, you've got to you feel it.

(10:23):
And I know the audience has been there too. I
think I think most spiritually in tune Christians know exactly
what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So that's wow.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing you didn't. Well, thankfully.
I was going to give you another scenario. But flooding's
bad enough, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, so well, yeah, I know I could have done
a chapter on earthquakes. I said, let me let me
get that.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you know, I just have to
say this the first folks, again, this is I'm I'm
going to say it was a joy to read. Although
it's not joyful. I mean it's joyful if you are
a Christian. Okay to me, that's that's the way I
look at it. But the first page should give you
an idea. The first words on the first page, and

(11:13):
that is there's more to the world than what we
see with her with our eyes, and we talk about
this all of the time. And then from that one sentence, man,
you go into all of that and you answer a
lot of things, and you're very convincing with it, but
with scripture and current events and and just how everything

(11:35):
is put together. And I thought your other books, your
many other books were like terrific, but this, I mean
they are, but this is mega terrific because you really
put into words what a lot of people are asking
and are very concerned about today, So go ahead.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I didn't mean to interrupt you, but no, no, no, no,
there we are.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And that's right. And and how this book is I
would say, different from all their books, you know, I mean,
all the books I've written are opening up mysteries that
are taking place now and that we're all part of
this one too, and things are happening right now. But
on top of that, this is the only book I've
ever written that fully opens up the dimension of end

(12:18):
time prophecy that think we're actually seeing things in the
world that are literally connected to end time prophecy. And
you know, and I'm very careful about that, but it's
because but it's so real and so powerful. There's so
many prophetic things happening. It's there's, as you said just before,
there is another realm behind the realm that we see

(12:41):
and behind current events. There's a whole nother realm, spiritual
realm with their ancient prophecies, entities, mysteries that are at
work behind what we're seeing in the news. And you
can't understand it until you see it.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
And so what the.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Dragon Dragon's prophecy is doing, it's removed the veil that
you see it, and like Oh, that's why it's happening,
and you may and even not only what's happening, but
what is going to happen, and then how to be prepared.
It's not only the opening of mysteries, it's also how
to stand in view of what's coming and overcome.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's informative and instructive. I'll say that. And you mentioned
about being in the end times. Now I'm going to
act as if I haven't read what you wrote for
the purpose of the listeners and viewers, but I just
have to ask unscripted here, do you believe with what

(13:40):
we're saying? Do you believe that we are in the
end times? From based on scripture?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
You know, as far as how long do we have,
that's a whole other issue.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
You know, the Bible is very clear, you know, and
that you know, the key sign is going to be
if you're in a world and Israel has come back
into that world. You know that is you know, from
being gathered from all the ends of the earth, which
has never happened before. The Bible says clear. When that happens,
you know you're in the end times. Now there's now

(14:13):
there's more that comes from that much more, and we're
gonna see it. What's happened this last year is very
much linked to end time prophecies. If you didn't, you know,
pick it up with all that's been happening from Israel
and then you know the outbreaks around the world. This
is very, very This is exactly really the scenario that
the Bible gives. So yes, we are in the end times,

(14:34):
and that's one of the reasons. That's why, you know,
the subtitle of the Dragon's Prophecy Israel, the Dark Resurrection
and the End of Days, the largest section is on
the end of Days.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
In fact, it is. And it's again, folks, that makes
sense if it makes sense to me, because I'm not
the brightest bulb when it comes to scripture. Okay, that's
why your father mc alister had to, you know, subside
Araule a little bit. But but having said that, okay,
one of the issues that well, let me ask, I'll

(15:10):
pose this as a question. Is it true that one
of the mysteries in the book actually foretold the invasion
of Israel by Moss Because that had seemed to like
be a not just an event, but a precursor event.
I mean expand on that if you don't mind.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is pretty amazing. You know. One
of the mysteries in the book actually did foretell is
this from the Bible. It's a mystery from the Bible
foretold that Israel would be attacked by a ground invasion.
It would take the nation by surprise, catch it off guard.

(15:53):
It would happen. The invasion would happen in the year
twenty twenty three. It would happen in the autumn of
that year. It happen in October of twenty twenty three,
would happen on a Saturday, specifically a Sabbath day. It
would happen on a Hebrew holiday, an ancient holiday from

(16:13):
the Book of Leviticus. It would it would lead to war,
and I mean putting it together, this ancient mystery ordained
that this invasion would happen on the first Saturday of
October of twenty twenty three, and it did. And beyond that,
I was, I was, you know, leading the congregation. I

(16:35):
lead because I lead a congregation here in New Jersey
for those who don't know, call Beth Israel at the
Jerusalem Center. And one of the services is Friday night
and Sunday morning, Friday night.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm led.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm saying, I'm led to share about a mystery from
the Bible. And that mystery that I'm sharing that night
is the mystery that is going to ordain the attack
on Israel on October on the first Saturday of October
of twenty twenty three. The night I shared it was
Friday night, October sixth. The next day it happened. So

(17:12):
I am sharing this mystery, and I'm saying I knew
what was going to happen. I know when I'm sharing
the mystery. The Bible gives that that I vote that
the Lord led me to open. And it happens the
next day. And the thing is, this may eat this
mystery in the book may even enable us to know

(17:32):
future events that are going to happen and when, because
this this actually and actually even after I finished writing
the manuscript, through other events started happening that we're according
to this mystery. So this may even enable us to
know that. And the Lord, listen, God's in control, and
he tells, he says, before things happen, he tells us
people God wants us to know. So this is this

(17:54):
is a very specific mystery you know what.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
You said right there, I think is important for people
to really understand and then whenever the listeners and viewers
understand this. When I was going, when I was reading
through the book, and I read through it very carefully,
like I said I had with my Bible, and and
I did feel as if I was reading into or

(18:19):
reading about the coming events.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I know I slaughtered that. But you can.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Almost I don't want to say predict or prophesies, but
you can almost see the pattern, the groundwork that's being
laid by by your words into future events. So that
is something folks that please Again, it's it's a nugget
that's available in the Dragon's Prophecy, and I would urge

(18:48):
everyone to grab their copy. By the way books by
jonathanconn dot com, Hope of Theworld dot org, two.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Websites you need to know.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
They're gonna be a linked in the program description box
at hagman p dot com under the under today's title.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Now, I'm gonna ask you this.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
You do talk about the devil, the devil's names in
about his existences, still had a number of different things,
But what does the Hebrew origins? And this is something
that Steph and I talked privately about. But what are
some of the Hebrew origins of the devil's names reveal
about his existence, the existence of.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, the name you know, the in Hebrew, the
enemy is called satan or uh. We get the word
satan from this now, and in Hebrew it means the opposer,
the opponent, the one who opposes everything, negates everything. The
Bible reveals the mystery of evil, the origin of evil.

(19:51):
You know, sometimes people have a problem with, oh the
devil that, you know, I can believe in God with that?
Well not only listen, evil is real and the devil
is real, and and you know, the Bible speaks about
evil beginning with an angelic creature that that turns, that inverts,
that turns against God. And so the one who it's
the one who turns against So everything about his nature

(20:14):
is turning, is against, opposing, negating, nullifying, to attack, to
war against that which is that which is created by God.
He seeks to war against God, but he can't destroy God.
So he wars against to destroy everything God does, his works,
his plans, his purposes, his promise, his people. And so

(20:35):
he is he is that now when that word was
translated into Greek Satan and Hebrew, it became the word diabolos,
which is means the one who casts accusation against your enemy,
the adversary, the one who is accusing you. And from
diabolos you know you yet you have the root. Where

(20:55):
the root consonants D B L devil, you get devil,
and so it all goes back to that. So this
is the first part of the mystery. And you know that,
you know there are things you know, people, I don't
care if you're a secular, I don't care if you're
an atheist. You you cannot explain things like Adolf Hitler
in the natural. You want to use what logically rationally

(21:16):
you know, by economic, political, cultural, you know, ideological, that's
doesn't explain it that there are things that are demonic,
including what happened on October seventh, that wasn't you know, ideology,
that was demonic.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
And the answer is in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And the fact is that evil actually proves God because
you know, you the very the very fact that something
is evil, it actually means that it's it goes against creation,
it's not what God created.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
It actually is is very you know.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know, Jonathan, you knocked your mic off there, I think, yeah,
there we go.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Are we back?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You're back? All right?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay, all right, I'll go back to where before I die.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
See that's the enemy, Doug, you know, right, So you.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Can have evil without good, I mean forends that you
can have immorality without morality. You know, you can't have
adultery without marriage. You can't have death without life, you can't.
So it's actually bearing witness to God. So you have
this creature that exists. But is what is going to
go happen? Is this mystery is he's involved in history

(22:22):
and we actually even what's happened in the last year,
he is involved with it very specifically, and that's going
to open up the next part of the mystery.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Okay, And then you know what you said there, You
cannot have evil without good or good without evil.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, evil without good.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I fully understand that, and I think a lot of
people really inherently understand that as well. Uh, those who
say they don't or don't believe it, I think are
being disingenuous intellectually and otherwise. But okay, so we have
the mystery of the Jewish people speaking about October seventh,
the events they're in what is exactly in you references

(23:06):
to talk about this right about this, That is what's
the mystery, the specific mystery of the Jewish people.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
God created an entity, a nation that are called Israel
and the Jewish people. And they exist not by natural means.
They exist because God called them into existence, and they
exist to fulfill the purposes of God. They don't. It's
not because they're better worse. They exist because God called

(23:33):
them to fulfill his purposes, to birth, bring into the
world the purposes of God.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
They brought in.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Through them came the Word of God, the Bible, the Ways,
the knowledge of God, the Gospel of God, the God
Messiah into the world and through them is going to
come the Kingdom of God through Israel. So Israel exists
for that reason, and it exists to also be a
witness to the existence of God, because God said, you

(24:04):
are my witnesses. And he said, as long I'm paraphrasing,
as long as the sun and the moon and the stars,
the created order is is in existence.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
You will be in existence.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You nothing. You will not cease from being a nation
from before me. So the existence of the Jewish people,
it's it's a sign of the existence of God and
and that. And in fact, there was a king, it said,
who asked his minister pastor, you know what, give me
one exist one proof of God. The guy said, the Jew.

(24:38):
And so so you got that. You have you have
the mystery. You have on one hand, the mystery of
evil and this this twisted entity. And then on the
other hand you have Israel that exists for the purpose
of God. So you have one that exists to destroy
the purpose of God. You have the other that exists
to bring forth the purpose of God. What does that mean.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
It means you're going to.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Have a war.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Hmmm, yes, well okay. Does that explain then, how Jewish
history testifies to the existence of God or of the devil?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Uh? Yeah, both both both?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, Yeah, it's not only That's the thing is that
it's not only that Jews that Jewish history testifies to God.
It also testifies to the exists that the enemy exists,
because what we expect to happen, we would expect that
that there would there would be a war on earth,
that that that the the enemy would seek to destroy
the Jewish people, because if he can destroy the Jewish people,

(25:38):
he destroys the evidence of God.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
And the plans of God.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
So if he can destroy Israel, so so we would expect,
even if we're like from another planet, we'd expect that
the Jewish people would become the most ward against people,
oppose people because the enemy is the opposer, slandered people
because the enemy is the slander the most hated people,
the most attacked people, the most persecutedible. That's exactly what's happened.

(26:05):
And the thing is, you know, it's not natural, you know,
it's not there's no other nation that has gone through this.
You know, the ancient times it was. This war was
in ancient times. This war was in the medieval tongues.
This war was in as in modern times. There's nothing
like it. It doesn't end, it's unending. And even what
happened it shocked everybody. You know, what just happened in Israel,

(26:26):
that what happened around the world shocked it. But you
know what, it was part of an ancient cosmic war.
And you know, you cannot explain people try to explain it.
You know, you know, the the communists hated the Jews
because they said they were capitalists. Capitalists hated Jews, they
said they were communists. You know, reveraries hated the Jews.
They had their status quo, status quo said their revolutionary
You know, people hated the Jews. They said they because

(26:48):
they stick together to themselves. Then others hate them because
they don't stick together, you know. They you know, they
hated the Jews because they because they don't have a nation.
They're they're different, they don't have a nation. Now when
they came back to Israel, they hated Israel, hated Jews.
Goes the habitation. It's not natural. There's only one one
behind it. It is supernatural, and the Bible gives the answer.

(27:08):
You see, it never dies because the enemy doesn't die.
And it's you know, the first anti Semi wasn't a leader,
you know, an ideologue king. It was an angel, and
that that twisted angel never sleeps. And so this is
the the work of an angel and a darkened angel.

(27:28):
And that's why we are still seeing it. That's why
it might it might, you know, might lower its head
for a moment, but it's always going to rear its
head again.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
And so we are in the midst of a cosmic war.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
You know, I've never seen such a a visceral hatred.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I don't know how else to describe it. Even some
otherwise saying irrational people are are extremely anti jew Is, saying,
oh my goodness, they own the banks, they own the world,
they run the world. All the problems originate with with
the Jewish people. That's part of this, right, that's part
of this war.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
This.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, and people are full. I mean, how do you
explain that? And again, yeah, you know, how do you
explain that?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, it's not Listen, you know, Doug, you've been You've
been around for a bit. I've been around for a bit.
And you know what, you know, we we were. We
probably came right after or around of the Holocaust. You
had you had Hitler, Nazis, all that, and okay, that's
never gonna happen. Never happened again. You know, it doesn't
take long. All of a sudden it's again. Then you

(28:38):
have then you have the terrorists, you have a mouse,
you have been loved, Then you have the woke. It
doesn't matter the only way you say, it doesn't ever stop.
It doesn't matter what the Jewish people do, because it's
not about the Jewish people. It's about God, and it's
exactly what the Bible says, if the Jewish people are
put on earth for the purpose of God, of course

(28:58):
they're going to be the most attackve. You know, the
Devil hates every person, everyone in the image of God,
but the Jewy.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
He hates the Jewish people especially.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
So it's exactly what we would expect to happen for.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
The Bible to be true.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know, there's a vision in the Book of Zechariah
where the Devil is literally accusing you know, the Jewish people.
I mean, he's attacking them especially. And there's another one
I know we'll get into from Revelation that has everything
to do with it. If listen, the Bible is true
and God is real, the enemy is real, and we
are watching it happen before our eyes.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Man, I'll tell you what you're one hundred percent And folks,
as you go through the Dragon's prophecies you read this,
you're going to find just little what I call little
treasures or nuggets of information of gold, information that will
really hit you between the eyes and it will help
you make sense of things. So I cannot speak any

(29:52):
more highly about the Dragon's Prophecy. And I'm so thrilled
to have my own copy here and my other up.
He's actually next to my on my nightstand. It's very
well paged through. So now I'm going to drill down
from here. The Book of Revelation contains a vision of

(30:13):
a dragon and a woman that caught my attention.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
What exactly what does that reveal to you?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, this is Revelation twelve, and this is what I
saw when I was in my car. I saw this,
and that's what led me. The whole book began with that.
This is the vision. It says, I saw a woman
with twelve stars around her head. That's Israel, the twelve tribes,
who gives birth to the one who will rule the world.
That's Messiah. The only one who gave birth to Messiah
was Israel. And so you've got Israel on one side,

(30:42):
and then on the other side. He says, then I
saw a red dragon, and that red dragon made war
against a woman. So this is written two thousand years ago,
before Hitler, before Hamaspua.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
It's all there.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
And so he waged war, and the word in Greek
it says he persecuted her. Well, think of that word.
What is that word persecution attached to more than any
other people? Persecuted her? And it says that he was
enraged against her. You know, it's a it's a Greek
word called orgizzo, the rage of the dragon. Well you
can see this in history everything we just talked about,

(31:14):
that's the rage of the dragon, and and it's an
ongoing war, and it's all there in the Bible. And
the thing is it focuses on two specific periods. The
first one is the beginning of the age when the
woman gives birth first century, and the second is the
end of the age, when it talks about it links
up with the Book of everything else in Revelation. So

(31:34):
you got the beginning of the age, end of the age.
What do they have in common? Well they what they
have in common is Israel existed in the world as
a nation in this age. It only existed in the
first century and now. And so what it's saying is
when Israel comes back, the dragon's war, the enemy's war
is going to intensify against Israel, against against the Jewish people,

(31:56):
against and others, but against that nation. So that's what
we're know. We'll start seeing he's going to wage war
more and more and more. And we're watching it. And
again this last year was you just you just saw it.
It was right there. So so that's really pointing to
where we are now.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Is that what you refer to with the birth of
Israel as a nation? Is that what you does that
coincide with or what? Let me just open the question,
what is the dragon's resurrection? Because again you read about
this and I think this is an important piece of
this whole mosaic.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, you know, this is this is an issue that
you know, you see all over the news. It's the issue.
It's the wedge issue that's used against Israel and the
United Nations on college campuses and all anti semi And
the thing is, you know, CNN will never tell you, You'll
never see this, you.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Know on a regular media channel. You'll never tell you,
and they don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
But the thing is, here's the mystery. Remember, the enemy
is an imitator. He imitates God. He says, I will
be like God. You know, he wants to be like God.
I will ascend to the throne.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
The Antichrist is the imitation of the Christ. And so
he's going to imitate God to try to undo and nullify,
replace God, replace the works of God. So what is
he going to do what did God do on earth?
You know, dramatically modern in our time. In modern times,
he resurrected the nation of Israel. You know, the prophet

(33:25):
Ezekiel speaks of the dry bones and so the ball
he resurrects these. But he makes a nation that was
dead become alive again. He brings Israel back into the
world in ancient nation. So what is the enemy going
to do. He's going to do his own resurrection. And
what's that. He's going to take another ancient nation and

(33:46):
he's going to resurrect it in a sense, in that
same sense historically, he's going to what nation? Well, he's
the enemy. It's an enemy resurrection. So he's going to
resurrect an enemy of Israel. And so what who was
the arch enemies of Israel in the Bible? Well, the
ones who were the continual, continual arch enemies were called
in Hebrew the pilashtem or in English the Philistines.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
And this is David and Goliath, this is.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Soul, this is all you know, on and on Samson,
on and on and on, and so how could he
resurrect them? Well, he would bring a people and conform
them to their image. And he's already done it, and
the people and it's not about the people. We got
to pray for all people. That people don't know what
they're doing. They're being used and they're being they're victims
of the of the enemy as well, but they're being used.

(34:36):
And so that we hear the word Palestinian and people think, okay,
here that and that's used all over the world against Israel.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
But what does it actually mean.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Palestinian literally means the Philistines, literally, the Philistines of people.
Now they were brought back into the world. And by
the way, they didn't exist be they're brought into the
world as Israel comes back in the world. When God
is resurrecting Israel, that's when this other resurrection begins, of

(35:08):
the Philistine resurrection, you know. In you know, they don't
most of them don't speak English as their main language,
and so they don't call themselves Palestinians.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
You know, you know what the word is in Arabic.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
The word is pronounced listen Philastine or Philistini. That's the name.
That's what we call Palestine Palestinians. That's they're calling up Philistines.
And so so you know, the we talk about the
world talks about a Palestinian state, that means the Philistine state,
you know, Palestinian flag, the Philistine flag, Palestine Liberation Organization PLO,

(35:42):
that's the Philistine Liberation Organization. That's what we're dealing with.
And it's once you see it so obvious. So they're
brought back. You know, God resurrects Israel, the enemy as
resurrects the enemies of Israel, to fight Israel, to delegitimize Israel,
to cause the world to hate Israel, to want to

(36:02):
destroy Israel. So that is so, and that goes right
into it's the mystery of the Sea peoples because because
that's what they were, they were the Sea People's they
back then. You know. The weird the interesting thing is
is dougas when Israel came. The first time you have
the word Israel in history outside of the Bible is
in the writings of the Pharaohs, the inscriptions, and Israel

(36:23):
comes into exact round. It comes there about around thirteen
hundred PC or so. And you know when the first
appearance of the Philistine comes, it comes right, it comes
like the late like within fifty years of that. In
the same the writings of the pharaohs, same thing. So
Israel comes into the world and the Philisines come into

(36:44):
the world as far as into history. Now, when Israel
comes back, they come back together again. It was just
as Israel began coming back with the first Zionist Congress
in eighteen ninety six or eighty ninety seven. The next
year it maybe it starts the word Philistine in Arabic
starts spreading through the Arabic world. And so everything that

(37:05):
happens with Israel is paralleled with what happens to in
this resurrection of the Philistines. Everything, and it's all about that.
You have a people who are actually being conformed to
the image of the ancient Philistines, and actually the enemies
using them to do to Israel exactly what the Philistines
did to ancient Israel in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Wow, okay, So I believe you just explained as you wrote,
the Mystery of the Sea Peoples, which you just discussed, right, okay, yes, okay, Wow,
Let's go right into another mystery if you don't mind.
What is the mystery and this is from my notes,
and forgive me if I mispronounced this, What's the mystery

(37:53):
of the pillow sheet?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Pillowchet. It is the name of the place where the
where the headquarters were of the Philistines, where they dwelt
in the Bible. It's a region on the coast that
was part that was called you know, in some of
our Bibles it will be called Philostia, the land or
region of the Philistines. So that's where they were, That's
where Goliath lived, That's where you know, all the Philistines

(38:17):
uh lived when they were Basically a lot of evil
came out of that in ancient times, and so so
you've got that called Pilochet. Now, the thing is, this
is where where is it today? Does it exist? Well,
it does exist, and you know where it is, you know,
the ancient Philistia or Pilachet. You know where it is
Lando Philis. Today it has a new name. It is

(38:39):
called the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip is the land
of the Philistines. In fact, Gaza was one of the
chief cities of the Philistines, which again the word Palestinian
means Philistine. And the thing is, I mean, it's like
they did not plan this. They didn't they didn't plan this.

(38:59):
Mystery out. It's amazing how this happened, because you know,
the Gaza strip actually didn't even exist. It came into existence.
You know, when it came into existence, it came into exist,
it was resurrected, or it came into existence in the
year nineteen forty eight, the same exact year that Israel
came into existence. So Israel is resurrected and the Philistia,

(39:23):
ancient phils is resurrected at the same moment, and at
that moment, same moment that the Jewish people, the Israelites,
are returning to the land of Israel, the people called
Philistines are returning to the land of the Philistines. So
everything is being set in place, put in motion for

(39:43):
a mystery. It's a setup where the enemy is going
to do something. But it's amazing because they didn't plan it.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I mean, it's all just happened.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
And that is one thing I got out of the
Dragon's prophecy is for as much as people, I'll say, well, Israel,
modern day Israel is a man made creation. It very
well might be to a limited extent, but you cannot
have the events like you just stated. You can't write

(40:15):
about them without knowing that this is much bigger than
anything man could possibly plan. And that folks, if nothing else,
if you get nothing else, understand that this is this
is the other realm, the spiritual realm, the war that

(40:36):
Jonathan Conn is talking about. And folks, please books by
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(41:00):
Jack and Beth. I hope you got yours. I know
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the author of the Dragon's Prophecy Israel The Dark Resurrection
in the End of Days.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
If that title doesn't get you, I don't know what will.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
You write that the.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Jonathan Kahan, you write that the behind October seventh exists
an ancient mystery. We kind of danced around touched on that,
or you did touched on that. But what is specifically
what is that mystery?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, book, but I'll give a little taste of it,
and that is that you know the Bible actually well,
it tells you that in the in ancient times, what
did the philospines do? They actually invaded Israel from the
Gaza Strift and they would invade Israeli towns and they
would brutalize them and they would bring back Israelites back

(43:53):
as hostages to Gaza. To look what happened on October Zee.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
This is the replaying of it.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
You know, every thing is replaying, and the enemy is
the Dragon is using it to touch the whole world
actually even to bring the world, trying to get it
into a world war as well. But it's all the
ancient mystery this is, I mean, once you see that's
like whoa yes. And the other thing is the Bible
actually gives the exact place where the Israelite, where the
Israelites would be attacked by the Philistines. Where were they

(44:19):
coming from the gods strip, where would they attack?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Well, it gives in.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
The book, I show how it's pinpoints this exact convergence,
this land, this little atlandery. It was the land area
where they had that music festival and where they had
those kibbutz's.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
It's the exact same land. So they were doing.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
What happened on that day is exactly what happened in
the Bible, and so it's being replayed before our eyes
as brought to you by the enemy man.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yes, and when I read that, I was very surprised. Look,
I think I know the Bible, but you know what,
leave it to Jonathan conn to really this all out. Now,
what about the city itself, the city of Gaza, that's
what you're referencing, right, yeah, well yeah, there's a mystery
behind that as well. Ancient mystery connected to it, which

(45:10):
I think you just described.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Is that well, well you have the Gaza trip, but
then you actually have Gaza the city. Well that's the
whole part of it too. In the Bible, Gaza is
in the Bible as a city, and Gaza was the
center of all sorts of evil that would come that
would come against Israel.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
So it's again replaying.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
And the thing is that that Gaza was the place
where they would take the hostages. And you know, the
ancient prophets in the Bible actually condemned Gaza over the
sin of taking Israeli's hostage. And so this is happening again.
It's not again, it's not like Hamas is reading the
Bible and trying to do it.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
It's the enemy that's doing this.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
And so and I'll tell you this. You know, there
is a there is an ancient there's a story we
all learned as children. I mean we know it to
this day, and it actually holds the the mystery of
this day or what happened. It's the story of Samson.
And I won't go into the detail except to say this,
just think about it.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Samson is an Israelite.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
He is he is taken captive hostage by the Philistines.
He's mutilated, He's taken to Gaza. They put them on
display in Gaza. That also happened in this and they
have a they actually have a celebration. The Bible says
that that you know, it was a day of joy
in the in Hebrew Simca. They had a festival and

(46:31):
it was a day of Simca. Well, amazing, Well, what
if you know at the end of that Samson here
he brings down the temple of Dagan and it says
about five thousand Philistines were struck down. What if there
was revenge for that? And not that they know it,
but the but the devil knows it. What if what
would it be? It would be that Gazin's would come

(46:54):
and attack Israel, And so they did on October seventh. Well,
and actually and as and as Samson brought that down
on the Philistines on the day of their festivity, which
in the in the Bible, the word is simca. Do
you know a day that the Gosins attacked Israel? It
was called the day of Simca simka Tora, a Hebrew

(47:15):
holiday that was had the same word as what the
Philistines were So it's like reverse, it's it's revenge. And
you know how many You know how many Gozins first
came in to attack Israel? No, I know the IDF
put their estimate. They said about five thousand, the same
exact phrase used in Samson in the Book of Judges,

(47:38):
about five It's the return of the five thousand goz It.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Wow, okay, wow again you cannot. I mean, this is
divine to me, This is divinely inspired writing the divine. Wow, folks,
if your mind's not blown already, just wait because it
gets better. Or again, you need to read the Dragon's Prophecy. Please, folks,

(48:06):
make it a worldwide bestseller for the next year because
you need that. You really need this information. Again. I
just when you thought you can really on screen, just
when you thought Jonathan Conn's books couldn't get more, you know,
exciting and relevant and such. Here it is man but
a being bit a bank. Now I'm going to move
to the twentieth century because there's a reference to Adolf Hitler. Okay, everybody,

(48:29):
and man I am so by the way, I'm a
separate thing. I'm kind of sick of hearing Hitler references.
But this one is extremely relevant to the contrary to
to the throw throw on you say, Hitler, this is
extremely irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
What does the what does Adolf Hitler have to do
with all of this?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah? Yeah. The amazing thing is, listen, if this is
a war from the enemy, and the enemy is does
not die, he raises up people, you know, they rise,
they fall, they die, and then he raises up the
next and the next to the next. So there's this
continuum and it's kind you'd expect the passing of the
torch or the Satanic mantle.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Well, amazing thing is that, you.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Know, Adolf Hitler actually actually in a sense discipled or
He employed a man called al Husseini who was also
known as the Mufti, and he was he he was
in Germany.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
He was an Arab who hated the Jews.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
He was in Germany, he broadcast on Radio Berlin during
the war. For Hitler, he wanted to bring the Holocaust
to to Israel and he called the Arab He called
for the Arabs to kill the Jews. Well, after the war,
he was going to be put on trial at Nuremberg,
but he escaped, went back to went to Egypt. In Egypt,
he became the father of the Palestinian Nationalism. A guy

(49:49):
who was employed by Adolf Hitler's He got the hand
of Adolf Hitler in this and and he ends up
he comes into contact with a with a teenager and
he an Egyptian teenager who he trains and disciples and
mentors to become the next and the teenager's name was
Yasser Arafat, who becomes the head of the Palestinians.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
So you have a link from Hitler right.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
To this and now and now there's but that's not all.
Hitler also he also funded an organization. He supported it,
he trained it, he they they helped the Nazis help
this organization. They this organization actually translated Hitler's works into
Arabic and the organization was called the Muslim Brotherhood. Hitler

(50:35):
was behind it, was was sponsoring it and the Muslim Brotherhood.
From the Muslim Brotherhood came Hamas. Hamas is part of
the Muslim Brotherhood, which was supported by Hitler. And so
you got there and when when they came out with
their charter, they're founding charter. It's basically the words of
Atolf Hitler. And the thing is, you know, now, let

(50:56):
me just tell you this. I didn't even this, I
didn't even put in the book. But it's all part
of the mystery.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Hitler.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
You know, one who was put in he put in charge,
Heinrich Himmler in charge of the Holocaust. Heinrich Himler was
over it, and he put Himmler in charge of all
the the conquered territories basically to begin the Holocaust. The
day that he put him in charge, you know what
the day was. The day was October seventh.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Do you know when Himmler, Heinrich Hiler was born.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Or seven? So this this, this this mystery of evil continues, continues, continues.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
The enemy is all behind.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
It, absolutely and and I just have to tell folks
that's one thing that uh, the late rust Istar and
I spoke about was the the Hitler Nazi roots of
well exactly what Jonathan conn was talking about now and
also has written about very very very very prescient to

(52:00):
what we're talking about. So Okay, now here we are,
almost a year out from the initial October seventh invasion.
People are looking in saying, well, Israel is just devastating Gaza. There,
they're they're they're going too far. They're they're bombing, they're
destroying everything. Well, Hamas, obviously, folks, you know what they're doing.

(52:26):
They're hiding in hospitals and human shields and such. But
what what does the Bible say that's going to happen
to Gaza based on the scripture?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah, this is actually a Bible speaks about this exactly.
It says, basically, Gaza is going to be judged. This
is through you can see this in scripture actually the
righteous things of Israel ward against the Philistines in Gaza.
It says that fire will come upon Gaza. You know,
this is exactly what because of what it did. And
it's actually the prophet who says, because of you, what

(52:59):
you did, what you did to Israel, and you took
my people captive and hostage, there's gonna be fire bringing
you down.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
It's going to be destruction. Well, that's what it says.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
And in fact, let me move even jump ahead, Doug,
and that is that to Hamas, which is hiding out
in Gaza.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That's their headquarters.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Do you know that.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Hamas is actually in the Bible. Hamas is an.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Arabic word, but it's also a Hebrew word. In Arabic,
it means the Islamic resistance will been. In Hebrew, Hamas
means evil, death and destruction, and it actually appears in
the Bible. When you look in the Bible, it's amazing
because it says, it says, there's scriptures like Lord save
me from the man of Hamas, or another one says Hamas.

(53:46):
The prophet says, Hamas has risen up as a rod
of evil in the land, and another one says says,
you know, Hamas fills the city and the land is
filled with bloodshed like October seventh. You know how Hamas
hides in the tunnel. Well, it says in the Bible,
it says Hammas dwells in the dark places of the earth.

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And then it says in in in one of the prophets,
it says to Israel in Ezekiel, it says, it says
rid rid Hamas from the land. And then in one
of the in Isaiah, when it talks about the Kingdom
of Messiah on earth, it gives a beautiful it gives
a promise to Israel, and it says, in that day

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Hammas shall no longer be heard in your land.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Hmm okay, And is that how or am I jumping ahead?
Is that how the Hamas invasion of Israel it starts
their demise? Or is connected how is Hamas is not
how Hamas is connected to the Book of Revelation by

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by merely, by not merely, but by definition as well
as the activities.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, they're actually here's here's the amazing thing.
You look at the Book of Look at the Book
of Revelation. It says the dragon warred against the woman Israel.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
It says how did he do it?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It says he's fewed a flood out of his mouth,
a flood against the woman, and to flutter away. Well,
the amazing thing is you know what happened in to
Israel October seventh. You know that Hamas gave it a
code name. You know what they called it. They called
it the operation. They called it the Tufon in Arabic.

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You know what tufon means. Tufon means the flood. Everything
you just saw was the dragon's flood against his people.
And they didn't even know what they were doing. They
called it by the very name from the Book of Revelation.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Okay, And again, folks, just think about this as you
listen to this, think about this and comprehend the the
biblical implications of well, the I guess I could say
the biblical implications or the implications about how that the
Bible is a is really playing out today. Now you

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write about two October seventh connected to the principle of
Satanic desecration, and also the connection to the Sabbath. For example,
if you want to dig a little bit deeper there, please,
I'd like to.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'll cover a number of things with this.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
First of all, you don't think about it. You know, like,
once you pull away the veil and you look at
the spiritual everything makes sense. What does the enemy do?
The enemy is a desecrator. He defiles the things of God.
If something's holy, he's going to defile it. Well, the
amazing thing is October seventh was not one. It was

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actually three holy days of God three. So it's almost
like he couldn't resist desecrating it. And I'll just give
a little taste of this one is that you know,
it was the Sabbath, and you know, so he desecrates
them on the Sabbath, the most holy day of peace.
He takes away their peace. And you know what Israel
calls that calls October seventh today in Hebrew, and you
translate it, it's they called the Black Sabbath, the Black

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Sabbath because it's that Black Sabbath is actually linked to
the devil. There was another holiday that's called, as I
alluded to, sim Kautoa, Day of Joy. And you know
what they do on that joy, the day of rejoicing.
They go out there to go out in the streets
and dance and sing and clap, and they specifically hand
out candy to others on that day. Well, you know
what happened. The enemy took the day of joy, He

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made it into the day of sorrow.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
He took away their joy.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
But you know what the enemies of Israel, they celebrated
it was the Devil's holiday because on that day in Ghanza,
in the West Bank, all in the Arabic world, where
they hated Israel. They went out into the streets and
they danced and they clapped, and they sang, and they celebrated,

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you know, Jewish blood, and all throughout that world they
handed out candy. So they actually celebrated what Israel was
to celebrate, but it was now celebrating death, and it
was the enemy twisting every so everything is twisted. He
that's what he does. And it's even gonna lead to
the mystery that I said, the three, but it's gonna
lead to another, the mystery of the Jubilee, because that's

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the mystery that actually is one of the mysteries that
actually gives you the exact timing of prophetic events.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
If you don't mind go right into that, because again,
the way the book is laid out, again I commend
your writing. The way the book is laid out, it
really takes you on a journey in my the way
I read it. So let's talk about the let's talk

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about the Jubilean mystery, uh what it is, and.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Just go ahead from there.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Yeah, yeah, there's a mystery.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
That that you know, keep in mind, you know, every
fiftieth year was the Jubilee, and that was a turn
of year of restoration. If you lost your land, you
got it back, and the year of Jubilee, the fiftieth
year you return. Well, the amazing thing is, you know,
there's no people who have so dramatically lost their land
as the Jewish people for two thousand years. But when

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God restored them to the land, he did it through
the mystery of the Jubilee.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Through the amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I won't go into a lot of detail, just give
a little taste, and that is, in the year eighteen
sixty seven, for the first time, the land of Israel
under Ottoman Turkish occupation. The Sultan releases the land to
be purchased, and so now Jewish people can start redeeming
the land. And much more happens on that year. Go

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fifty years later, Jubilee, fifty years later. What year it
takes you to the year nineteen seventeen. Anything happened nineteen seventeen.
Those who occupied the land flee the land. That's what
happens in the Jubilee. Works flee the land and it's released,
and the British Empire takes the land and issues the

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Balfour Declaration, which says the land is promised shall go
to the jew back to the Jewish people, back to
the original owners. That's jubilee. But they they never got Jerusalem,
that's their holy city. But count fifty years later, and
where does it take you? It takes you to the
year nineteen sixty seven. Anything happened nineteen sixty seven Six

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Day War, and God restores Jerusalem the ancestral inheritance of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Israel to the Jewish people. First time it has.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
By the way, you should rejoice because that has to
happen for Jesus to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
He's coming back there, so that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
But the one thing, you know, in the jubilee, you
get now you don't just get the land, you get
the right. You get the legal right and recognition this
is your land. But the world refused that. There was
not one nation that would do that. They refuse it
about Jerusalem until count fifty years. It takes you to
the year twenty seventeen. Anything happened twenty seventeen. What happens

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is for the first time that it's broken. The first
time America, a world power, issues the Jerusalem Declaration that
declares Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, first time
since ancient times and so even that everything happens accordingly.

(01:01:36):
But we got to now join this to the mystery.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Of the dragon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Remember I said, the dragon is an imitator, and the
dragon is a desecrator. So he's going to take the
jubilee of God, twist it, turn it around, so instead
of being a blessing, it's going to become a calamity
to Israel. And so what happens. There's one event, not
a good event. It was a calamity, and it was

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actually the greatest calamity that ever happened to Israel in
modern times. And it was up until now, I mean
now another one happened. It's called the Yom kippoer War.
It happened in nineteen seventy three, and Israel was taken
by surprise, caught off guard by a ground invasion. It
was almost destroyed, almost destroyed. They miraculously God turned it around,

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but to this day they were shaken by this, to
this day. Well, the enemy takes that calamity and he
then counts fifty years to create his own jubilee.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
And you know where does that take you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Nineteen seventy three, It takes you to the year twenty
twenty three is going to be the Devil's jubilee.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
What happened? When did it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
The Young Kipper War take place in October, So it's
going to happen in October when it happened on a Saturday,
So it's going to happen on a Saturday. When it
happened on a Hebrew Holy day from Leviticus, so it
October seventh is going to happen on a Hebrew Holy Day.
From Leviticus, it happened, it took Israel by surprise, so

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it's going to take Israel by surprise. It led to war,
so it leads to war. And on top of it,
you know, put it all together, the Young Kipper War
invasion happened on the first Saturday of October nineteen seventy three. Well,
the devil counts to the first Saturday of October twenty

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twenty three, and that falls on October seventh. It was
the Devil's jubilee. And this is what I mean when
you take you remove the veil. This is telling us
and this mystery again hasn't stopped. It tells it not
only what has happened, what is going to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
This may enable us to know what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Is going to happen and exactly when it will happen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
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(01:04:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I don't want to mislead you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
By the way, Doug, I have to say, you are
such a blessing, such a kind, wonderful man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
I so love it doing it with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Okay, Yeah, The Dragon's Prophecy is literally available everywhere you
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Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
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Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
And thank you for that again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
I just did not want to miss anything up And
you know, my cinema is the same as I mean, likewise,
it's like a couple of friends talking over a cup
of coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I just love this. Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
You know, we're as I started out, it feels, and
I think spiritually, those who are spiritually intuitive can feel
that we're living in the end of days. And you
said earlier that we're seeing them now, Yes we are.
That brings me to another issue in the apocalyptic times
or in the apocalypse? What are the colors of the apocalypse.

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I'll just toss that question out there. Yeah, you understand
what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, the the you know, in the Book of Revelation
is filled with them imagery and it actually gives you
the colors of the apocalypse, and they are the colors
of the four horsemen, which represents these four calamities on
the earth. Ultimately, it all converges on Israel, you know,
the entire apocalypse. So you've got the four horses. The
first horse is white, says for conquering, second horse is

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red for war, the third horse is black, the black
horse to for famine and want, and the last horse
is green, pale green, which is for death.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
So you got these four horses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
And the amazing thing, Doug, is not just what happened
in Israel, but what's happening all around the world, because
right after that, all these outbreaks of hatred for Israel
break out, which the Bible says, this is all in
line with biblical prophecy. And wherever it breaks out, the
colors of the apocalypse start appearing. How well, they're waving

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these banners and waving these flats there, and the flag
they're waving is the flag the Palestinian flag or the
Philistine flag?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
And what are the colors?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
The colors are the flag are white for the white horse,
red for the red horse, black for the black horse,
and green for the green horse. The colors of the
apocalypse on that flag of the resurrected Philistines.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
That is not just them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
The amazing thing is that when you look in the
world and you see other nations, if they have these
four colors. It marks them as enemies set against the
nation of Israel, the colors of the apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Folks, I want you to think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
I have a little post it that I put on
the page of the book because my mom would slat
my hand if if I turned down the dog or
the page or put the book down and break the spine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
So I want you to remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
And tell, tell, you, tell other people. Look at the flag,
look at the colors of the apocalypse, and there you go. Now,
we touched on this about the about the Book of
Ezekiel for telling a coming invasion of Israel that might
be the next big prophetic event. You wouldn't drill down
more on that because, yeah, there's a surprising connection that prophecy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Yeah you tell what that is, Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, the prophet Ezekiel gives the prophecy of the mass
invasion of Israel that's going to happen in the last days.
It's never happened before. It happens after Israel has come
back to the world. There's no it's unwalled villages, it's now,
and so it may very likely be the next great
colossal event.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
And the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Is the amazing thing what I fought. First of all,
he gives you know, the names of the nations by
the peoples, and we can identify them, certainly a good
amount of them with accuracy. There are some debates over some,
but it's clear there's some things that are there. And
for instance, su Dan is part of it. A Libya,
the North North Africa is part of it. Turkey is

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part of that thing, and Iran is part of it.
You know, Russia is one of the interesting things of
questions with it. But it's very interesting about that as well.
So the thing is this, here's what I found. Each
one of them, I mean, it says they're going to
take part in the invasion of Israel. That stills a
common But what we just saw was the first major
invasion of Israel in half a century.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
You know that, you believe mystery.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
But the thing is what I saw was su Dan,
or i'll put it in the language of Ezekiel, Cush
actually took.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Part in that invasion.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
They were behind it, they supplied it. All that's aff
put in the in the prophecy one call put also
Libya was also part of it. Togarma in Ezekiel's problem
was also part of October seventh, and Persia Iran was
definitely part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
So for the first time ever in history the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Nations of ezekiel A, she took part in an attack,
an invasion of Israel. Ever, we crossed a prophetic line,
and and and and by the way, we'll get to
another there was that wasn't the only one. We have
just crossed an unprecedented line of biblical end time prophecy.
And that's for real, and you can take that home
with you. It's amazing, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Which is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I mean, I'm sorry, So go ahead, no, no, okay,
because I was thinking ahead here does the death of
the the unexpected? Is there a mystery behind the unexpected
death of the Iranian president? I was kind of thinking
as you were talking. I was thinking about current events
and how you put everything together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
So go ahead, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Let me, yeah, let me set the stage with that,
because there is a there.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
One of the things that the book reveals are the
the entities, the mysteries, entities behind everything that's actually happening.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Determining what was having and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
To understand what you were asking, which is yes, the
end is yes, is there's a mystery of something called
the Sar parrahs and the t Sar Paras is mentioned
in the Bible. It's an ancient enemy or is an enemy.
It's an ancient entity that the mission is to destroy
the Jewish people and well basically attack Israel, stop the

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purpose of God for Israel, and stop the purpose of
God concerning the end times for Israel. And so you've
got this entity to do that. Now, what does it mean.
The word sar means master, ruler, leader, or general, and
the word paras, what does that mean.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Paras means Iran Iran.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
So literally it's saying there's an entity that's obsessed with
destroying Israel and it is behind Iran. So what does
that mean. It means it's a revelation that when Israel
comes back into the world, it's going to kick in
this entity. It took a little time, but then it
happened all of a sudden, Iran. The Bible said it

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in Ezekiel, the Bible's employed it's implicit in Daniel that
Iran is going to turn and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
It's going to turn against Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, it happened in nineteen seventy nine. And so if
this entity that's obsessed with destroying Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Is behind Iran.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
According to the Bible, then what would we expect to
happen in Iran. Iran is going to become obsessed with
destroying Israel. And that's exactly what happened Iran.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
No accident.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
That Iran has become the arch enemy of Israel in
the world today. The Bible, they foretold it, and so
it's driven to destroy Israel. And that's why listen, you
have all those missiles has belied in the news today,
could could bring a world war.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Who's behind that? Iran's behind it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Who's behind Iran? The sarparas a demonic entity.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
To destroy Israel? The hutis who's behind them?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Iran? October seventh. You know who's behind that Gaza? Who's
behind that Hamas? And behind Hamas was Iran, And behind
Iran was the Sarkaross. And behind the sarkar Ross.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Was the drag Ad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
So it's all there and and the you know, the
amazing thing is on top of that, here's the other line.
You know, I said the one line was that, here's
the other prophetic line. Ezekiel says that in the last days,
Iran will actually attack Israel. Well, they've never done that before,

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you know, I mean directly, not directly until now, until
this spring it happened they we crossed another line. Actually,
Iran literally sent hundreds of missiles and drones to attack
bring destruction on Israel. So this is this is the
second major prophetic line, and Israel attacks were struck back

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directly Iran directly the same way. But there's a Bible
reveals another entity, and this one's very different. This entity
can be called the Sar y Israel, the general of Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
And who is it. It's an angelic being.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
And the name of this being translates to who is
like God or in Hebrew you say it me Kael
or in English we call him Michael Mikrael. So what
it's saying is there is a protector of Israel. So
as you have the attacker from Iran, you have a protector,

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and so Michael is the one protecting Israel. And I
have no doubt. You know, when all those hundreds of
missiles came, you know, ninety nine percent of them never
made it. And it's not just technology. I have no
doubt that the sorry Yesrael was in that. So you've
got it says that that Michael or the Sary Israel
battles the sar Paras of Iran. So they're literally battling

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each other. And so what that's happening in the heavenlyes,
So it's revealing to you, it's determining that the two
nations Iran and Israel going to be a battle on earth.
It all goes back to the heaven LEAs. And the
other thing is now now to your question of the
that the Iranian president, Well, the Iranian president was name,

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the president Rond was named. He was named ed Rahim Raci.
The name he with Abraham is named after Abraham. He's
named after the father of the Jewish people that he's
trying to destroy and Abraham. That signals the covenant that
God made with Abraham that if you curse Israel, you'll
be cursed. If you bless Israel, you'll be blessed. Whatever

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you do will come back. And that's a word for
all of us. Listen, don't curse Israel, Bless Israel. God
God keeps his word. So what did he do?

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
The Bible says that Israel is the apple of God's eye.
If you touch it, you're touching the apple of God's eye.
So he sent this guy, Abraham Racey, president of Iran,
sent forth all these hundreds of missiles to strike Israel.
He touched, he was trying to touch the apple of
God's eye. You know what happened, Doug About thirty days later.

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He was struck down dead right after. And you know
what he also at the same moment, he not only
sent those missiles, he issued a threat that went throughout
the headlines that said he would that he threatened to
annihilate the nation of Israel. He said, there'll be nothing
left annihilate. He will annihilate is You know what Israel is,

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the nation God put there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
You cannot annihilate. You know, that's blasphemy. You're gonna You're
gonna destroy God's a that's blasphemy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Well, you know that weekend, the day before he was
struck down, it was the Sabbath, and all around Israel
and all around the world, there's an appointed word and
they open up the scrolls and read it. You know
what the appointing word was. It ended with the man
who blasphemes, who says the blasphemy shall be struck down.
The next day he was struck down. And you know

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what else, Doug that when you know in Ezekiel, God
says the nations that come and strike Israel, come down.
I'm going to bring them against the mountains. I'm gonna
They're gonna fall on the mountains. Well, you know, the
first leader of a nation that Ezekiel actually mentioned to
attack Israel that actually attacked Israel was this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
And you know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
He was in his helicopter and he was he was
brought down against the mountains. He fell upon the mountains.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Wow, folks, talking with Jonathan Kahn, the book, get it now,
the Dragon's Prophecy, and make sure it goes to the
moon in terms of sales, because what's in here, I
think is again perhaps one of the greatest reveal revealings

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of current events. And speaking of that, you make so
many different connections including and I'm going to toss this
up the Temple Mount October seventh, the Antichrist, uh, the
five Red cows. This equal to the mount and I'm
gonna toss one more out after that. You also write

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that behind at nine to eleven was the Temple Mount.
You got to explain that to me. And also, what
is the King Solomon's secret. So there's like a kind
of a compendium of questions there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yes, so go ahead, Yeah, where if you don't realize,
if you're watching, we're trying to get in as much
as we can. You know, at the time we can
only touch on things that are in the book, but
we want you to get that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
So the first thing is, Yeah, the amazing thing listened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
The Temple mount is the is the ground zero of
end time prophecy. That's where it's all gonna happen. The
Temple is gonna be built. That's where the Antichrist is
going to be. He's going to defile it, declare himself
God there. That's where Messiah is gonna come to. That's
where he's gonna rain from. So the enemy, the dragon,
is going to do everything to stop that. He's gonna
to control that mounts. And that's what's happened.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Right now Jewish people are not allowed to go on
that mounta and pray or observe anything of God. That
was the place where they were supposed to. So the
enemy is like he has a control on that mount. Well,
if anything would threaten that control, all hell would break loose.
The enemy would go crazy, the dragon would go crazy. Well,
what people don't know the little secret. It actually happened

(01:19:18):
about months before everything happened in Israel, the strike, the invasion,
something happened on the Temple Mount and there was a
rumor that Jewish people were going to celebrate Passover on
the mount after thousands of years, and so all hell
broke loose on the mount.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Everything went crazy on the mount.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
And it was right then because of that the enemy
struck back. In fact, Hamas was used. They issued a
threat and they promised they were gonna have there was
going to be revenge for Israel. Well, you know, the
dragon's revenge came on October seventh. That was all about
the Temple Mount and Prophecy. By the way, even Hamas
admitted it. They said afterwards they said, we did it

(01:19:53):
goes on the mounts because of you know, it was
the enemy talking. And he said even because of the
five cows that read Heifer's he said that they you've
been mentioned that maybe because that's a threat that the
Temple's coming back. And so it was all behind it
all was the Temple Mount, Prophecy, Antichrist, the war over
that mount and that Hamas even called their invasion not
just the flood. They called it. They linked it to

(01:20:14):
the Temple mount. They gave it a name that max
the Temple mounta. And by the way, not only that
nine to eleven can't I can't go through why but
it's in the book, but nine to eleven behind nine
to eleven was also the Temple Mount was also.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
This mystery of prophecy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
And by the way that you know, there's one day
of the Hebrew year where the Jewish people read the
account of Solomon building the temple on that mount and
dedicating it. It's on a holiday, and so all around
Israel they're reading about the building of the Temple and
the mount. Well, that would threaten the dragon, that would
threaten the enemy. You know what day that fell on
in that year, It fell on October seventh. So they're

(01:20:53):
reading about the building of the Temple and Solomon, and
at the same the dragon goes crazy and he's try
It's all about prophecy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Again, folks. If you want to get the full scope
of what excuse me, the full scope of what Jonathan
conn is talking about, you've got to get the dragon's prophecy.
I cannot recommend this anymore any higher than I'm doing
right now. This wave as we kind of go throward

(01:21:28):
the end here, the wave of anti Israel, anti Jewish
rage that has is sweeping all across the country in America.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
This is part of the mystery.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
I believe that you can you can explain that as
well as where this all is leading to if you
don't mind.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Yeah, well this is first of all, the Bible says
this is going to happen. You know, after Israel has happened,
you'd expect the world to be so sympathetic for Israel.
But what happened. The amazing thing is all over the world,
these anti Israel, hey Israel hate demonstrations break out all
over not only in the our world or the Muslim world,
but in the Europe, in Europe, in America, on Harvard campus,

(01:22:08):
and they're chanting, you know, from the from the river
to the sea Palestine Schelbi Free that's chanting the destruction
of Israel. And they're they're chanting death to Israel. And
so you know, it makes no sense, but it does
make sense spiritually because the Bible says it was almost
like it was almost like a spiritual blood frenzy. You know,
there is Jewish blood, and so the spiritual deemed, the

(01:22:29):
demonic realm, goes crazy, and so they are chanting that.
And the Bible says that what's going to happen in
the last days. You know, there's a vision of the
dragon in Revelation where the spirits come out of its
mouth and spread through the whole world and get the
whole world enraged with Israel because this is they he
brings them to armageddon. They're going to try to destroy Israel. Well,

(01:22:51):
you know it's happening. You say, well, how could that
ever happen? How could the world come against this little
nation size the time it's New Jersey. You know, well
that's well, listen, you saw a shadow of it. That
was the most widespread outbreak of anti Israel, anti Jewish,
anti Semitic.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Hatred that has ever been in human history. You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
The invasion on Israel was the worst day in Jewish
history since the Holocaust. That outbreak all over the world
and again in the West in America, even in the
Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Now, you know, it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Was the it was a sign, you saw a foreshadow
of what's gonna come.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
It's the rage of the dragon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Remember from that vision, it's the the dragon's rage against
the woman. And notice you see you see the fingerprints
of the dragon. Not only not only in the colors
of the apocalypse, which were that mystery which you're all there,
but also they were that chance.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Where did they get that sham from? You know where
it comes from?

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
It comes from the Bible, because the enemy twisted the
word of God, which he does, and he made it
into that chance.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
The word of God.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
God promises the lef to Israel, and he says, from
the river to the sea again, over and over, from
the river to the sea, from the river to the.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Sea, I've given it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
The enemy takes the same thing, twist it around to
destroy Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
This is all the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
We are living in the very days that God said,
we're watching it happen and we could and Doug, it's
probably good. You go, well, well, I'll tell you this
that the book, the last part of the book is
bringing it home to what do we do, because you
know there is a war. That war is not just
against Israel. It says he made the dragon ward against

(01:24:37):
the rest of her children.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Who are they?

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
They're you? If you're a believer. If you're a follower
of Jesus, you are the rest of Israel. You are
born again, a child of Israel. And so the dragon
wars against you, and he's gonna war again as he
wars against Israel in the last days, he's gonna war.
He wars against Israel physically to destroy them. He's warring
against the Church spiritually to destroy it. You got a
physical Israel, you got a spiritual isa The war is

(01:25:01):
going to increase in both in both times. So we
got we have to be ready for this. So the
last part of the book is how do we get ready?
What do we need to know? How do we know
his strategy? Because, by the way, it's not only that you,
there's I'm sure there are people who are watching this.
Not only you're not maybe you're not Jewish, and maybe
you're not born again, believe it. But you're in the
image of God. And if you're in the image of God,

(01:25:23):
the enemy, the dragon has been warring against you since
the moment you were conceived.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
You know, some of you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
We tried to abuse you, somebody tried to addict you,
somebody tried to to to crush you, somebody to you know,
on and on and on, keep you from God, you know,
defile you in, enslave you. Well, you know what, you know,
we're all in this war. And if you're in a
war and you don't know you're in a war, you're
not going to win the war. And so the last
part of the Dragon's prophecy is that is, how do

(01:25:51):
we know? How do we overcome? Can we overcome? The
answer is yes. And the thing is, I know, and
I know, Doug, I'm kind of rushing to because I
want to know this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
You're you're going right into my questions because I'd love
to leave people with encouragement the uh and and you
in your book you provide people with encouragement, the calling
in charge about the mystery the prophecy. So and it
affects everyone listening and watching this now, so continue, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Yeah, yeah, the thing is in the in the Book
of Revelation. It's not just the dragon. You have a lamb,
you know, and the lamb represents the Messiah Jesus. Yes, sure,
And so the thing is, you know, the amazing if
you know, if you have a dragon fighting a lamb,
most people put their their bets on a dragon. But
the lamb wins. You know, evil always comes like a dragon.
It comes fierce, it comes overwhelming, you know, you know,

(01:26:44):
you know, good comes like a lamb.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
It's the underdog.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
It doesn't look like it's gonna win, but it wins
in the end. You know, it's interesting because you know,
a dragon is is reptilian, that's cold blooded, and and
reptiles can't they don't have perseverance. They can't last long.
Evil rages, but it can't last long. But the lamb
is warm blooded. Goodness is lasts forever. There's no end.

(01:27:09):
So in the end we win. It may look overwhelming
against the lamb, but he wins, you know, he wins.
He was crucified, he rose again. And the thing is
that if you follow the lamb, and if you're not
born again, you gotta be born again. If you're if
you follow the lamb, you're gonna win. You know, it
says it's the same that same vision is where that
word comes, that awesome word. It says, but they overcame

(01:27:31):
him by the blood. They overcame the dragon by the
blood of the lamb.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
So listen, we overcome.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
The word overcome is nacao, which is amazing because it
means to prevail and conquer and win. But it's written
of the future in the past tense. In other words,
it's as good as done. The victory is as good
as done. The thing is, you got to fight. If
you don't fight, you don't win. But you gotta fight.
And so one of the things I have in the book,
it's called the Mystery of the Secret Israelis. And this

(01:27:58):
is a little strategy because one of the strategies of
the enemy against us. And what are the strategy God
gives us the Israelis. You know, if you're born again,
you're not just a spiritual Israelite, You're a spiritual Israeli.
And so what are the Israelis teach us? In the
natural when they came back, they.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Had to learn how to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
If they didn't fight, they would be destroyed. They had
to learn to end up becoming among the greatest fighters
in the world. Well, you know what, that's a sign
for us. We are the spiritual Israelis. We have to
become warriors fighters in the end times, which means you
don't accept what the to do to you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
You don't accept what.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
The your culture, what he wants to do your home
what he wants to do around you, what he wants
to do in you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
You don't accept that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
You fight back.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
If you fight the fight, you're gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
That's the promise. You're gonna win the war.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
But you've got the fight. And like all great works
of Jonathan Cohn, the book is very serious but and
lays out the historical current and prophetic timeline, but also
provides that necessary encouragement, the spiritual enrichment that I desire

(01:29:06):
and find in his books, especially The Dragons of Prophecy. Folks,
please don't just buy one by two and send one
to someone who needs this, both the information and the inspiration.
Jonathan conn thank you so much, Thank you so much
for being a good friend. I just again, I love

(01:29:26):
your brother. I appreciate your work. And let's do this
again soon.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Oh thank you, Doug. It's an honor and a joy.
I feel the same way. Stay strong, We'll circle back,
and everybody be strong and God bless you, Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Folks that'll do it this special report, the Hagman Report.
Jonathan Kahn just a tremendous writer, tremendous author, and one
that can lead you through the current events, especially in
this latest Book, The Dragon, The Dragon's Prophecy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Thank you for Tony and God bless
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