February 27, 2025 • 22 mins
Something creepy was hiding in Gracie's closet and her cat knew it! We've got some great stories about ghost husbands and spooky voices that haunted a sleepover this week. We also dig into some creepy ways that AI is getting into the grief business and look into a ghost town that may or may not be for sale. Find the companion blog at HauntedAF.com or just watch it all on YouTube (please subscribe while you're there). And remember to send your scary stories to hauntedafpodcast@gmail.com so we can use them on the next Haunted AF!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have got some ghost stories for you. I'm hearing
these voices, but there's nobody else around. I don't like
the skeleton man. He's so mean to me, and he
bites me at night.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And suddenly this stool, completely of its own volition, slid
good to maybe three feet out into the center of
the bar. He walks towards the ocean, and he gets
to the water. He just disappeared.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I feel someone run their hand under my butt cheek,
just sliding under my butt.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So that is my ghost story.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hi, and welcome to Honaday at the podcast are real
ghost stories told by real people.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
We are your hosts.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm Julie Fish and I'm Rebecca Black. So coming up, guys,
we've got more random ghost by head more more of them, Yes,
and something truly horrible called a ghost husband. Also an
interesting and possibly downright wrong way of dealing with grief
Curtis AI. That is all coming up.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
But first, don't forget that we do post every episode
on YouTube, and that's a quick, easy way to see
all the photos, all the videos that we're gonna reference
in the episode. Please subscribe while you're there, and if
you aren't a YouTube person, you can find all the
photos and links on the Companion blog at hauntedaf dot com.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Also a quick reminder that when you send stories written
or recorded, I do edit them for time. Okay, someone
got real upset with Rebecca for changing their email recently, sorry,
and I had to explain that's actually me editing the story.
So I do this to make it easier to read
and make things keep rolling. But I also promise I
never change anything about the encounter itself, and I don't
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add anything to make it scarier. Like the whole podcast
is about real life situations. We want to maintain our credibility.
But yeah, listen, sometimes you guys ramble a little bit,
and I got to tighten that shit.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Up, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So now let's revisit that audio from last week. No,
it's gone the grol all that creepy stuff. So here's
what some of our listeners thought. If you haven't already,
go back and listened to episode three of season eleven.
We also posted some of the audio in our reels
and on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I thought we were going to replay them again so
now to keep haunting ourselves, So yeah, and over again.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Actually, I just needed all the audio space for new audios.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So sorry, that's a good thing though. It is a
good thing, all right. So our patron Laurie said, oh
hell no. Then she added this morning, my bff texted
me that she woke up abruptly at three thirty am
because she heard a male voice say sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Her husband was asleep on the couch.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
We also got some responses on YouTube. Carol said that
sounds like a basketball bouncing to me. Oh interesting, especially
the last clip with the two clicks Full for you
says the first one sounds demonic, truly frightening. Jay Hernandez says,
my gut makes that same growling sound when I eat broccoli.
Dot dot dot for reel. She'd probably stop eating broccoli,
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my friend, But.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, that was a sign of good gut health.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah again, if you haven't go and listened to those,
I would still love to hear any ideas or thoughts
that Sheeple had on that audio. So we have a
dead Pet of the week story, but in this one,
Scotty just kind of sinks his own little dead pet,
so we're gonna let him do the intro.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Hello, ladies, it's Scottie Bee. How you doing. I have
a good one? For you guys today it's a dead
pet of the Week. So a few months back, my
little guy Sammy, he was a yakie. We had to
put him down because he was very old and very sick.
He was sixteen years old. It was very very sad,
you know. He was gone for a few months, and
then Christmas rolled around and that was like his favorite
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time of the year because he used to love to
sit under the Christmas tree and take a nap. So
one night, my other dog, Quinn, and I were sitting
in the living room watching TV and I saw her
start to stare into the kitchen and I started hearing
like the nails of a dog walking across the floor.
And then I was a little freaked out. And under
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the Christmas tree where I put Sammy's ashes, and I
put a little like Santa Claus sweater he used to wear,
and his collar. The collar fell off of the box
of ashes, and the thing that you put under the tree,
the little like wrapping, actually looked like Sammy was sitting there.
And then Quinn got up off the couch and walked
over there, and she was like going, you know, like
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the way the dog's whine. She went by the tree
and started snipping it, and then she laid down by
the tree, so it was it was a good night.
I was waiting for Sammy to come back. I was like,
I want a dead Pet of the Week story. Yeah,
And I'm so glad that he did come and visit
us on Christmas. And if I can, I'd like to
promote my Facebook group the King of Halloween. That'd be wonderful.
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Love you guys, and I wish you all well, Happy
New Year, Happy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, that was the quickest promotion ever.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Sam Oh my gosh, isn't that sweet.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Scotty actually sent us a picture of Sammy sitting under
the tree. It's the sweetest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm so happy he got his dead Pet of the
Week story.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
All right. Our next story comes from Mackenzie. In high school,
I stayed with my mom's best friend a lot. He
had three girls the same age, so sleepovers were frequent.
We used to joke the house they lived in here
in Canton was haunted. It wasn't a particularly spooky house,
but every once in a while something odd would happen.
We'd hear someone on the stairs while everyone was in bed,
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or their dogs would be pissed at something in the
empty kitchen, so we started saying, oh no, there's a ghost,
and me, being a smart ass, named it Roger. One night,
we were all in the bathroom, straightening our hair and
using our outdoor voices, as one does at fourteen, and
I was texting on the Google Messages app. As we
were talking, a deep, guttural voice came through the phone
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and scared.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The shit out of the ha ha. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
The voice was deep and loud, and we couldn't make
out the words it was trying to say. I asked
who it was and how they called me, but it
never responded to my questions, so I shut the app down.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I reopened it to check with my brother.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Thinking maybe it was him, but he was asleep and
definitely hadn't called me. About a half hour later, our
laughing and chatter hadn't risen to peek again when the
voice came over the app a second time.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh my gosh, your lord. This time we were ready.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
We asked a million questions and downright bullied this poor entity.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The voice was.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Terrifying, but I think we were confident in our numbers,
so we eventually left The voice rumbling on the counter
and pretended Roger was just a part.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Of our girl's night. Oh my god, that is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
The voice never came over the app again, and the
family has now moved out of the house. We could
never explain it, and we don't know what the ghost
was trying to say. But now if something weird happens
and we're all together, we'll just say, hey, Roger Mackenzie.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh my god. I love it so much.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I love that they bullied it and think about how
pissed off that ghost would have to be.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Right, it's like, this isn't working. I'm not scaring them, yes,
because he's.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Probably like, please shut up. All of these like chattering
girls are making me crazy. And then they just start
kind of making fun of him and then leave him
sitting on the counter. Okay, I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh yeah, weird.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ghost swels, don't we take us snooze?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's times Scott heard us asking amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
He's like, I'm busy, I'm moving right now. But here's
a real quick spooky news for you. So thank you
for that. Because we have been telling a lot of
good spooky news stories. And before we get into it.
I just saw that the asteroid chances have changed again.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, did you see this?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
It went up to three percent, yeah, and then it
went down to under one percent.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So therefore back up again.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I would like it to come early. In fact, I
will give you my address, asteroids.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I am not rooting for the ast I know, I know,
I just don't. I mean, I'm like, my kids will
just be graduating from college at that point.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
If I invite it to my house, it will hit
me directly, but I'm away.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'll be You'll be all right, Yeah, Because I'm like,
we got to recoup some of these college expenses here
for a little while.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I don't have to worry about that. You don't
never have to pay a billigain, That's true.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm not gonna look it up, just because by the
time this airs, it'll be up and down again.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Destroyed itself in the atmosphere somewhere exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, onto some spooky news.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Apparently, ghost spots are now being used to help people
cope with grief. AI ghosts, also called death bots, grief bots,
AI clones, and death avatars, are large language models built
on available information about the deceased, such as their social
media posts, photos, diaries, videos. You can also commission an
AI ghost before your death by answering a set of
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questions and uploading your information.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, I don't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
This option gives you some control over your ghosts, such
as excluding secrets and making sure that you look and sound.
Your best AI ghosts are interactive. Some are text bots,
others engage in verbal conversations, and some are videos like
a zoom or a FaceTime session. The price of creating
an AI ghost varies around the world. In China it's
as low as several hundred dollars, while here in the US,
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the setup costs can reach fifteen thousand dollars, with a
per session fee around ten.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, so, I guess you set it up.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, Like you pay to set everything up, and then
the person has to pay every time they spend time
with the ghost spot.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That is so creepy. So it's just like worth spending
if you have to spend per hour. Yeah, it's like
you're you're a constitute. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
The thing is just so creepy. Also, some more spooky news,
We've got to send love to a listener. We know
only as Badger's for spending us a story about ghost
towns that are for sale? Oh yes, yes, So Badger
was like, didn't y'all talk to a guy who lives there?
The post mentioned as Sarah Gordo property that looked an
awful lot like the ghost town where Brent Underwood has
(09:43):
been living. So that's the guy who moved into a
ghost town back in twenty nineteen and then posted continuously
on YouTube until last year. We actually interviewed him, yeah,
back in season three, and we knew how much Brent
loved living there, so we were shocked to see that
it might be for sale and for like ninety nine
thousand dollars no less. Yes, And Brent recently wrote a
(10:04):
New York Times bestseller called ghost Town Living. So I
was like, well, maybe he's done with it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, maybe that's the why he brought the property.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, maybe he made his buck and he's done with.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It so to book bye.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah. We reached out to Brent and he was like,
uh no, absolutely, no part of Sarah Gardo is for
sale right now?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
What?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah? And he was also very surprised to hear about
this article. So I looked it up and is like
the guy who sent the article. Yeah, it looks like
someone that Brent used to do some work with in Austin.
So it's very I don't know what's going on, okay,
but it was a little shady because it was like,
if you one more information about these about living in
these ghost towns, comment ghost and I'll send you the information.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I did.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
A whole bunch of people did, and then but what
happened is he would send you something that was a
link to his business, this realty group, and you did
get the story, which still looked like Sarah Gordo. It's
still looked like where Brent was living. But now they're
sending me all this crap about like real estate or whatever.
So maybe it was like a phishing thing all whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's what it sounds like to me anyway, Yeah, that's
it does.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But anyhow, we'll post a link to the article and
just don't put your email address.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
In there, and don't put ghosts in the comments.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, and we'll also post that episode where we interviewed
Brent back in twenty twenty. That was episode twenty one
of season three.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
You said it was in twenty twenty, and I'm like,
what I know it's like that was so long ago,
yet yesterday you.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Think about that episode twenty one because that was during
COVID and we just kept releasing episode. Yeah, we did
the end the season for so long, so anyhow, but
we'll post a link to that as well, so y'all
can check it out. Haunted how so high screen will
tell you money me So be in the world of dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
We know all the secrets. Line be on the pillow.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
We do have a dream to share with you guys
this week. This one comes from our friend Lizzie.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This is Lizzie, and I'm on my way to work
and I've been meaning to send you this dream. So
I was going through chemo treatments and you know, you
just spend a lot of time laying down. But anyway,
so I woke up this one morning having had this dream.
The only way to describe it was that it was prophetic.
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It starts out I'm in high school in the eighties
and the dream did not disappoint with proper period dress
for that time. So I'm standing on the outside of
the Fine Arts building. I see this kid get out
of his car. You know, he walks by me. We
don't say anything. Then we graduate and I'm out at
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the bar and he comes up to talk to me
and I blow him off. Then I'm in my house.
He comes to the door and next thing I know,
he's on top of me on the floor and he's
strangling me, and he says to me, all you had
to do was be nice. And I wake up. I
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write the dream down. I think that I'm gonna write
a story about it or something. But in all the
books I've written, I have not written that story down.
And I don't think that I'm some incredible asshole and
less I'm behind the wheel. So I don't know what
that dream really meant. Thanks, ladies, love you.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Okay, thank you, Lizzie.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I do not like that dream at all. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And so one of the things when I plug this
into the dream bot, because she said in the beginning
though it felt prophetic.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Sure, And so I asked the.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Dream bot, which is our AI dream analysis thing, why
do some dreams feel prophetic, because.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sometimes they don't, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And the dream bot said, some dreams feel prophetic because
they tap into our subconscious processing of subtle cues and
patterns that our conscious mind might miss. Carl Jung called
this synchronicity. We're seemingly unrelated events a line in a
meaningful way. It's not necessarily about predicting the future, but
rather your sub conscious mind piecing together information and projecting
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a likely outcome.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
They say people with like ADHD have a good pattern recognition, really,
and I think maybe that's what the dream situation is here.
There's been a pattern in your life that you might
be necessarily didn't uncover until you were dreaming about it.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That's pretty awesome. So this is what dreambot says about
the actual dream. In dreams, people from the past often
embody aspects of ourselves. The act of being strangled, especially
by a stranger, is a powerful symbol of feelings suffocated
or silenced. The statement all you had to do was
be nice to me suggests a fear of not meeting
someone's expectations or not being nice enough in the past.
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So pretty literal, Yeah, you might be grappling with feelings
of vulnerability, suppressed anger, or a fear of being punished
for something you may not consciously be aware of.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I also feel like this is a very specific female
only types.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was about to say that how many men out
there like think or worry about being nice enough to
the point where they might drik about it. Yes, that's wild,
and if we're wrong about that, let us know. But
I think I've had that exact same thought. And here's
an interesting bit of information about Lizzie. She says, I'm
a fellow podcaster currently potting on the MGM plus show
From You Want, But yeah, she says, it's called what
(15:24):
is fromcast. I'm also an author of several books, most
notably a completed zombie apocalypse series called Lizzie's Lost Girls.
I also have a standalone tour book of the Bridgewater
Triangle in southeastern Massachusetts. So here's my other thought, is
being a public figure puts you at risk of all
kinds of judgment and criticism, especially from strangers.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, especially I was thinking, like on the podcast, if
you have these books, I looked up her books on Amazon,
Lizzie's Lost Girls. That's a really popular book series, and
so you know, you go in and you read reviews,
people will talk all kinds of trash. So anyhow, I
don't know that that's related, but I thought it was
really interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Really.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I was like, also, Lizzie's probably on all the social
media channels because she is in the limelight.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, which everybody's like, oh, you're not real celebrities, so
I can see whatever I want about you.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Oh yeah, and people will just say.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Awful things that they would never say to your.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Face, specifically on YouTube too, Like is that I don't know?
Somebody was really trashing us on YouTube recently on one
of our shorts.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Take it as a compliment.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Look, we got troll We got trolls, all right, our
next te Hang on just a second. I do want
to put out a trigger warning for this because there
is a mention of sexual assault. Okay, so if that
is like fast forward if you need to.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Okay, Hey guys, my name is Gracie from Utah and
I love the podcast. I wanted to share two of
my ghost stories, and the first one happened when me
and my husband moved into our first apartment. It was
an old house that had been split into two apartments
and all the rooms connected to a bathroom and a
utility closet in the center. At first, everything was normal,
but after a few months, I started seeing shadows moving
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out of the corner of my eye. Shortly After that,
we got a new cat, and she figured out how
to open the closet doors. She was obsessed with opening
the utility closet door and climbing behind the water heater,
so we had to get a baby proofing lock to
keep it closed. After that, she would sit in front
of the closet door and stare at it for no reason.
That's where I always saw the shadows out of the
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corner of my eye.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Then I started having these dreams of being sexually assaulted,
sometimes even multiple dreams in one night. It had me
really concerned, so I did some research and learned about
these things called spirit husbands. It allegedly happens when a
ghost has relations with a human, which the person then
dreams about. I immediately knew that's what was happening to me.
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We moved out a year ago to build our first house,
and I haven't had a single one of those dreams
since OOO grows.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But I need to show you the picture of her cat.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
She said this is but she said, this is.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
How the cat would stand whenever it was staring at
the closet. Is upright, Yeah, he's on his hind legs, yes, yeah,
And she said he would stand like that for a
really long time, just staring at the closet.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
That is not normal.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
No, I mean like it's an adorable kiddy, totally, but
that would scare the shit out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Same if I walked in the room and my cat's
just like work.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah. So Gracie's second part of the story, She says
this happened a month ago. As I mentioned before, we're
in the process of building a house, and as paranoid
as I am about ghosts, I researched the lot we
purchased and couldn't find anything. Sorry, Gracie, I think most
of that stuff isn't online.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I can tell you all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, And honestly, all the world is a graveyard, so
good luck with that. While working on the house alone,
I would often hear something walking up and down the stairs.
This only happened when I listened to the podcast, so
I figured I was psyched myself. Totally sorry about that. Well,
we are almost done and the dust is really thick
on our hardwoods. We found barefoot footprints.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In the dust.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I tried following them, but they eventually got mixed in
with all the other footprints of the workers going down
the hallway. I laughed at the time and thought, what
kind of construction worker walks around barefoot? But a week
later we were installing our doorknobs and realized too had
gone missing, so we searched and asked everyone who would
work there to no avail. Shortly after, we found one
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of the missing doorknobs in a drawer in an upstairs
bathroom and have no idea how it got there random.
I'm still not sure if this was a ghost or
just a weird construction worker, so I guess we'll have
to see how it pans out after we move in.
Let me know if you think it goes to stealing
my doorknobs or not. To be fair, they are very
pretty doorknobs. And again that is from Gracie Girl. You're
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gonna have to keep us posting on that. But it
made me think, Okay, have you watched the Foxhallow Farm documentary,
on whom I have not. They talked to the guy
who actually who lives in the house.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Mister.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yes, it is fun to watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I will say they repeat themselves a lot, but we
get to see all those places in the house that
we talked about before. But apparently. He said some of
their faucets were stolen, like the bathroom fawcets. Interesting, yeah,
and he just noticed that they were missing. He's like,
that's weird. So we went online to try to find
something that looked like the other faucets and found them
for sale on a serial killer website. Yeah, somebody would
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be working on the house took the faucets and was like, yo,
this is where her ballmeister lived. I don't know if
he actually bought those or not.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Crazy that he actually like found like it was somebody
working on their house right that stole them.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But I was like, huh so, Gracie, are you sure
this is not the home of a famous serial kill?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Maybe or maybe they just really are very pretty? Door
Off said they are. I believe you, Gracie.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We need to say a big thank you to Denise
K who just became an annual Haunted af patron. Thank you, Denise.
By the way, we did something special in the Patreon pregame.
We've been having some weird little glitches lately, ever since
we got back from the Haunted apartment in Mineola, and
we joked that we had brought something back from there. Well,
we actually did, and it's a book about ghost hunting
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that we bought at the Curiosity Shop, which is also
allegedly haunted. It is signed by the author and we
were planning to give it away anyhow, but now we're
doing a bit of an experiment.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We'll send it to a.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Patron if they want and see if they start having
any weirdness. It's a bit of a fun science experiment,
so to speak, and we get to unload potentially a
haunted artifact off on someone else.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, yes, not us.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, we'll keep following developments over there, assuming anyone actually
takes the damn thing. So if you want it, go
to Patreon dot com slash haunted af.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Another way to support the podcast is to purchase merch
in our online store that's at hantdayf dot com. We've
got a load of cute stuff over there. But the
best way to support the show is by sending in
your stories. By the way, we are working on a hotline.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm super excited.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yes, so we'll allow you to record your stories, which honestly,
we should have done this six years ago, right, what
the hell.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's way easier than finding it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
On the end, I know we'll see. So far, I
can't get this damn thing set up. It's making me
very frustrated. But it should be ready in a week
or two. But for now, send those written or recorded
stories to haunt Day of podcast at gmail dot com
so we can use them on next hanted af.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
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Speaker 4 (22:16):
Got to say thanks to Andrew Mamalica and Travis Vance
for the HONTIDAEF theme song, and to on Air Media
for titles and technical support. Also big thanks to all
of the Hontidae Patreon supporters.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Most of all, we have to thank you for listening
and for sharing your stories with us. By the way, Julie,
if I die first, I'm coming back to haunt you all.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Come back to haunt you too.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Rebecca
I have got some ghost stories for you. I'm hearing
these voices, but there's nobody else around. I don't like
the skeleton man. He's so mean to me, and he
bites me at night.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And suddenly this stool, completely of its own volition, slid
good to maybe three feet out into the center of
the bar. He walks towards the ocean, and he gets
to the water. He just disappeared.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I feel someone run their hand under my butt cheek,
just sliding under my butt.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So that is my ghost story.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hi, and welcome to Honaday at the podcast are real
ghost stories told by real people.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
We are your hosts.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm Julie Fish and I'm Rebecca Black. So coming up, guys,
we've got more random ghost by head more more of them, Yes,
and something truly horrible called a ghost husband. Also an
interesting and possibly downright wrong way of dealing with grief
Curtis AI. That is all coming up.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
But first, don't forget that we do post every episode
on YouTube, and that's a quick, easy way to see
all the photos, all the videos that we're gonna reference
in the episode. Please subscribe while you're there, and if
you aren't a YouTube person, you can find all the
photos and links on the Companion blog at hauntedaf dot com.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Also a quick reminder that when you send stories written
or recorded, I do edit them for time. Okay, someone
got real upset with Rebecca for changing their email recently, sorry,
and I had to explain that's actually me editing the story.
So I do this to make it easier to read
and make things keep rolling. But I also promise I
never change anything about the encounter itself, and I don't
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add anything to make it scarier. Like the whole podcast
is about real life situations. We want to maintain our credibility.
But yeah, listen, sometimes you guys ramble a little bit,
and I got to tighten that shit.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Up, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So now let's revisit that audio from last week. No,
it's gone the grol all that creepy stuff. So here's
what some of our listeners thought. If you haven't already,
go back and listened to episode three of season eleven.
We also posted some of the audio in our reels
and on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I thought we were going to replay them again so
now to keep haunting ourselves, So yeah, and over again.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Actually, I just needed all the audio space for new audios.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So sorry, that's a good thing though. It is a
good thing, all right. So our patron Laurie said, oh
hell no. Then she added this morning, my bff texted
me that she woke up abruptly at three thirty am
because she heard a male voice say sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Her husband was asleep on the couch.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
We also got some responses on YouTube. Carol said that
sounds like a basketball bouncing to me. Oh interesting, especially
the last clip with the two clicks Full for you
says the first one sounds demonic, truly frightening. Jay Hernandez says,
my gut makes that same growling sound when I eat broccoli.
Dot dot dot for reel. She'd probably stop eating broccoli,
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my friend, But.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, that was a sign of good gut health.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah again, if you haven't go and listened to those,
I would still love to hear any ideas or thoughts
that Sheeple had on that audio. So we have a
dead Pet of the week story, but in this one,
Scotty just kind of sinks his own little dead pet,
so we're gonna let him do the intro.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Hello, ladies, it's Scottie Bee. How you doing. I have
a good one? For you guys today it's a dead
pet of the Week. So a few months back, my
little guy Sammy, he was a yakie. We had to
put him down because he was very old and very sick.
He was sixteen years old. It was very very sad,
you know. He was gone for a few months, and
then Christmas rolled around and that was like his favorite
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time of the year because he used to love to
sit under the Christmas tree and take a nap. So
one night, my other dog, Quinn, and I were sitting
in the living room watching TV and I saw her
start to stare into the kitchen and I started hearing
like the nails of a dog walking across the floor.
And then I was a little freaked out. And under
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the Christmas tree where I put Sammy's ashes, and I
put a little like Santa Claus sweater he used to wear,
and his collar. The collar fell off of the box
of ashes, and the thing that you put under the tree,
the little like wrapping, actually looked like Sammy was sitting there.
And then Quinn got up off the couch and walked
over there, and she was like going, you know, like
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the way the dog's whine. She went by the tree
and started snipping it, and then she laid down by
the tree, so it was it was a good night.
I was waiting for Sammy to come back. I was like,
I want a dead Pet of the Week story. Yeah,
And I'm so glad that he did come and visit
us on Christmas. And if I can, I'd like to
promote my Facebook group the King of Halloween. That'd be wonderful.
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Love you guys, and I wish you all well, Happy
New Year, Happy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, that was the quickest promotion ever.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Sam Oh my gosh, isn't that sweet.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Scotty actually sent us a picture of Sammy sitting under
the tree. It's the sweetest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm so happy he got his dead Pet of the
Week story.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
All right. Our next story comes from Mackenzie. In high school,
I stayed with my mom's best friend a lot. He
had three girls the same age, so sleepovers were frequent.
We used to joke the house they lived in here
in Canton was haunted. It wasn't a particularly spooky house,
but every once in a while something odd would happen.
We'd hear someone on the stairs while everyone was in bed,
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or their dogs would be pissed at something in the
empty kitchen, so we started saying, oh no, there's a ghost,
and me, being a smart ass, named it Roger. One night,
we were all in the bathroom, straightening our hair and
using our outdoor voices, as one does at fourteen, and
I was texting on the Google Messages app. As we
were talking, a deep, guttural voice came through the phone
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and scared.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The shit out of the ha ha. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
The voice was deep and loud, and we couldn't make
out the words it was trying to say. I asked
who it was and how they called me, but it
never responded to my questions, so I shut the app down.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I reopened it to check with my brother.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Thinking maybe it was him, but he was asleep and
definitely hadn't called me. About a half hour later, our
laughing and chatter hadn't risen to peek again when the
voice came over the app a second time.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh my gosh, your lord. This time we were ready.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
We asked a million questions and downright bullied this poor entity.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The voice was.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Terrifying, but I think we were confident in our numbers,
so we eventually left The voice rumbling on the counter
and pretended Roger was just a part.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Of our girl's night. Oh my god, that is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
The voice never came over the app again, and the
family has now moved out of the house. We could
never explain it, and we don't know what the ghost
was trying to say. But now if something weird happens
and we're all together, we'll just say, hey, Roger Mackenzie.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh my god. I love it so much.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I love that they bullied it and think about how
pissed off that ghost would have to be.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Right, it's like, this isn't working. I'm not scaring them, yes,
because he's.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Probably like, please shut up. All of these like chattering
girls are making me crazy. And then they just start
kind of making fun of him and then leave him
sitting on the counter. Okay, I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh yeah, weird.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ghost swels, don't we take us snooze?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
It's times Scott heard us asking amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
He's like, I'm busy, I'm moving right now. But here's
a real quick spooky news for you. So thank you
for that. Because we have been telling a lot of
good spooky news stories. And before we get into it.
I just saw that the asteroid chances have changed again.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, did you see this?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
It went up to three percent, yeah, and then it
went down to under one percent.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So therefore back up again.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I would like it to come early. In fact, I
will give you my address, asteroids.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I am not rooting for the ast I know, I know,
I just don't. I mean, I'm like, my kids will
just be graduating from college at that point.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
If I invite it to my house, it will hit
me directly, but I'm away.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'll be You'll be all right, Yeah, Because I'm like,
we got to recoup some of these college expenses here
for a little while.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I don't have to worry about that. You don't
never have to pay a billigain, That's true.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm not gonna look it up, just because by the
time this airs, it'll be up and down again.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Destroyed itself in the atmosphere somewhere exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, onto some spooky news.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Apparently, ghost spots are now being used to help people
cope with grief. AI ghosts, also called death bots, grief bots,
AI clones, and death avatars, are large language models built
on available information about the deceased, such as their social
media posts, photos, diaries, videos. You can also commission an
AI ghost before your death by answering a set of
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questions and uploading your information.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, I don't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
This option gives you some control over your ghosts, such
as excluding secrets and making sure that you look and sound.
Your best AI ghosts are interactive. Some are text bots,
others engage in verbal conversations, and some are videos like
a zoom or a FaceTime session. The price of creating
an AI ghost varies around the world. In China it's
as low as several hundred dollars, while here in the US,
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the setup costs can reach fifteen thousand dollars, with a
per session fee around ten.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, so, I guess you set it up.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, Like you pay to set everything up, and then
the person has to pay every time they spend time
with the ghost spot.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That is so creepy. So it's just like worth spending
if you have to spend per hour. Yeah, it's like
you're you're a constitute. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
The thing is just so creepy. Also, some more spooky news,
We've got to send love to a listener. We know
only as Badger's for spending us a story about ghost
towns that are for sale? Oh yes, yes, So Badger
was like, didn't y'all talk to a guy who lives there?
The post mentioned as Sarah Gordo property that looked an
awful lot like the ghost town where Brent Underwood has
(09:43):
been living. So that's the guy who moved into a
ghost town back in twenty nineteen and then posted continuously
on YouTube until last year. We actually interviewed him, yeah,
back in season three, and we knew how much Brent
loved living there, so we were shocked to see that
it might be for sale and for like ninety nine
thousand dollars no less. Yes, And Brent recently wrote a
(10:04):
New York Times bestseller called ghost Town Living. So I
was like, well, maybe he's done with it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, maybe that's the why he brought the property.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, maybe he made his buck and he's done with.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It so to book bye.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah. We reached out to Brent and he was like,
uh no, absolutely, no part of Sarah Gardo is for
sale right now?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
What?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah? And he was also very surprised to hear about
this article. So I looked it up and is like
the guy who sent the article. Yeah, it looks like
someone that Brent used to do some work with in Austin.
So it's very I don't know what's going on, okay,
but it was a little shady because it was like,
if you one more information about these about living in
these ghost towns, comment ghost and I'll send you the information.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I did.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
A whole bunch of people did, and then but what
happened is he would send you something that was a
link to his business, this realty group, and you did
get the story, which still looked like Sarah Gordo. It's
still looked like where Brent was living. But now they're
sending me all this crap about like real estate or whatever.
So maybe it was like a phishing thing all whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's what it sounds like to me anyway, Yeah, that's
it does.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But anyhow, we'll post a link to the article and
just don't put your email address.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
In there, and don't put ghosts in the comments.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, and we'll also post that episode where we interviewed
Brent back in twenty twenty. That was episode twenty one
of season three.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
You said it was in twenty twenty, and I'm like,
what I know it's like that was so long ago,
yet yesterday you.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Think about that episode twenty one because that was during
COVID and we just kept releasing episode. Yeah, we did
the end the season for so long, so anyhow, but
we'll post a link to that as well, so y'all
can check it out. Haunted how so high screen will
tell you money me So be in the world of dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
We know all the secrets. Line be on the pillow.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
We do have a dream to share with you guys
this week. This one comes from our friend Lizzie.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This is Lizzie, and I'm on my way to work
and I've been meaning to send you this dream. So
I was going through chemo treatments and you know, you
just spend a lot of time laying down. But anyway,
so I woke up this one morning having had this dream.
The only way to describe it was that it was prophetic.
(12:17):
It starts out I'm in high school in the eighties
and the dream did not disappoint with proper period dress
for that time. So I'm standing on the outside of
the Fine Arts building. I see this kid get out
of his car. You know, he walks by me. We
don't say anything. Then we graduate and I'm out at
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the bar and he comes up to talk to me
and I blow him off. Then I'm in my house.
He comes to the door and next thing I know,
he's on top of me on the floor and he's
strangling me, and he says to me, all you had
to do was be nice. And I wake up. I
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write the dream down. I think that I'm gonna write
a story about it or something. But in all the
books I've written, I have not written that story down.
And I don't think that I'm some incredible asshole and
less I'm behind the wheel. So I don't know what
that dream really meant. Thanks, ladies, love you.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Okay, thank you, Lizzie.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I do not like that dream at all. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And so one of the things when I plug this
into the dream bot, because she said in the beginning
though it felt prophetic.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Sure, And so I asked the.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Dream bot, which is our AI dream analysis thing, why
do some dreams feel prophetic, because.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sometimes they don't, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And the dream bot said, some dreams feel prophetic because
they tap into our subconscious processing of subtle cues and
patterns that our conscious mind might miss. Carl Jung called
this synchronicity. We're seemingly unrelated events a line in a
meaningful way. It's not necessarily about predicting the future, but
rather your sub conscious mind piecing together information and projecting
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a likely outcome.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
They say people with like ADHD have a good pattern recognition, really,
and I think maybe that's what the dream situation is here.
There's been a pattern in your life that you might
be necessarily didn't uncover until you were dreaming about it.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That's pretty awesome. So this is what dreambot says about
the actual dream. In dreams, people from the past often
embody aspects of ourselves. The act of being strangled, especially
by a stranger, is a powerful symbol of feelings suffocated
or silenced. The statement all you had to do was
be nice to me suggests a fear of not meeting
someone's expectations or not being nice enough in the past.
(14:46):
So pretty literal, Yeah, you might be grappling with feelings
of vulnerability, suppressed anger, or a fear of being punished
for something you may not consciously be aware of.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I also feel like this is a very specific female
only types.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I was about to say that how many men out
there like think or worry about being nice enough to
the point where they might drik about it. Yes, that's wild,
and if we're wrong about that, let us know. But
I think I've had that exact same thought. And here's
an interesting bit of information about Lizzie. She says, I'm
a fellow podcaster currently potting on the MGM plus show
From You Want, But yeah, she says, it's called what
(15:24):
is fromcast. I'm also an author of several books, most
notably a completed zombie apocalypse series called Lizzie's Lost Girls.
I also have a standalone tour book of the Bridgewater
Triangle in southeastern Massachusetts. So here's my other thought, is
being a public figure puts you at risk of all
kinds of judgment and criticism, especially from strangers.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, especially I was thinking, like on the podcast, if
you have these books, I looked up her books on Amazon,
Lizzie's Lost Girls. That's a really popular book series, and
so you know, you go in and you read reviews,
people will talk all kinds of trash. So anyhow, I
don't know that that's related, but I thought it was
really interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Really.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I was like, also, Lizzie's probably on all the social
media channels because she is in the limelight.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, which everybody's like, oh, you're not real celebrities, so
I can see whatever I want about you.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Oh yeah, and people will just say.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Awful things that they would never say to your.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Face, specifically on YouTube too, Like is that I don't know?
Somebody was really trashing us on YouTube recently on one
of our shorts.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Take it as a compliment.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Look, we got troll We got trolls, all right, our
next te Hang on just a second. I do want
to put out a trigger warning for this because there
is a mention of sexual assault. Okay, so if that
is like fast forward if you need to.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Okay, Hey guys, my name is Gracie from Utah and
I love the podcast. I wanted to share two of
my ghost stories, and the first one happened when me
and my husband moved into our first apartment. It was
an old house that had been split into two apartments
and all the rooms connected to a bathroom and a
utility closet in the center. At first, everything was normal,
but after a few months, I started seeing shadows moving
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out of the corner of my eye. Shortly After that,
we got a new cat, and she figured out how
to open the closet doors. She was obsessed with opening
the utility closet door and climbing behind the water heater,
so we had to get a baby proofing lock to
keep it closed. After that, she would sit in front
of the closet door and stare at it for no reason.
That's where I always saw the shadows out of the
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corner of my eye.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Then I started having these dreams of being sexually assaulted,
sometimes even multiple dreams in one night. It had me
really concerned, so I did some research and learned about
these things called spirit husbands. It allegedly happens when a
ghost has relations with a human, which the person then
dreams about. I immediately knew that's what was happening to me.
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We moved out a year ago to build our first house,
and I haven't had a single one of those dreams
since OOO grows.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But I need to show you the picture of her cat.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
She said this is but she said, this is.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
How the cat would stand whenever it was staring at
the closet. Is upright, Yeah, he's on his hind legs, yes, yeah,
And she said he would stand like that for a
really long time, just staring at the closet.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
That is not normal.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
No, I mean like it's an adorable kiddy, totally, but
that would scare the shit out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Same if I walked in the room and my cat's
just like work.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah. So Gracie's second part of the story, She says
this happened a month ago. As I mentioned before, we're
in the process of building a house, and as paranoid
as I am about ghosts, I researched the lot we
purchased and couldn't find anything. Sorry, Gracie, I think most
of that stuff isn't online.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I can tell you all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, And honestly, all the world is a graveyard, so
good luck with that. While working on the house alone,
I would often hear something walking up and down the stairs.
This only happened when I listened to the podcast, so
I figured I was psyched myself. Totally sorry about that. Well,
we are almost done and the dust is really thick
on our hardwoods. We found barefoot footprints.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In the dust.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I tried following them, but they eventually got mixed in
with all the other footprints of the workers going down
the hallway. I laughed at the time and thought, what
kind of construction worker walks around barefoot? But a week
later we were installing our doorknobs and realized too had
gone missing, so we searched and asked everyone who would
work there to no avail. Shortly after, we found one
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of the missing doorknobs in a drawer in an upstairs
bathroom and have no idea how it got there random.
I'm still not sure if this was a ghost or
just a weird construction worker, so I guess we'll have
to see how it pans out after we move in.
Let me know if you think it goes to stealing
my doorknobs or not. To be fair, they are very
pretty doorknobs. And again that is from Gracie Girl. You're
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gonna have to keep us posting on that. But it
made me think, Okay, have you watched the Foxhallow Farm documentary,
on whom I have not. They talked to the guy
who actually who lives in the house.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Mister.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yes, it is fun to watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I will say they repeat themselves a lot, but we
get to see all those places in the house that
we talked about before. But apparently. He said some of
their faucets were stolen, like the bathroom fawcets. Interesting, yeah,
and he just noticed that they were missing. He's like,
that's weird. So we went online to try to find
something that looked like the other faucets and found them
for sale on a serial killer website. Yeah, somebody would
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be working on the house took the faucets and was like, yo,
this is where her ballmeister lived. I don't know if
he actually bought those or not.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Crazy that he actually like found like it was somebody
working on their house right that stole them.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But I was like, huh so, Gracie, are you sure
this is not the home of a famous serial kill?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Maybe or maybe they just really are very pretty? Door
Off said they are. I believe you, Gracie.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We need to say a big thank you to Denise
K who just became an annual Haunted af patron. Thank you, Denise.
By the way, we did something special in the Patreon pregame.
We've been having some weird little glitches lately, ever since
we got back from the Haunted apartment in Mineola, and
we joked that we had brought something back from there. Well,
we actually did, and it's a book about ghost hunting
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that we bought at the Curiosity Shop, which is also
allegedly haunted. It is signed by the author and we
were planning to give it away anyhow, but now we're
doing a bit of an experiment.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We'll send it to a.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Patron if they want and see if they start having
any weirdness. It's a bit of a fun science experiment,
so to speak, and we get to unload potentially a
haunted artifact off on someone else.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, yes, not us.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, we'll keep following developments over there, assuming anyone actually
takes the damn thing. So if you want it, go
to Patreon dot com slash haunted af.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Another way to support the podcast is to purchase merch
in our online store that's at hantdayf dot com. We've
got a load of cute stuff over there. But the
best way to support the show is by sending in
your stories. By the way, we are working on a hotline.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm super excited.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yes, so we'll allow you to record your stories, which honestly,
we should have done this six years ago, right, what
the hell.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's way easier than finding it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
On the end, I know we'll see. So far, I
can't get this damn thing set up. It's making me
very frustrated. But it should be ready in a week
or two. But for now, send those written or recorded
stories to haunt Day of podcast at gmail dot com
so we can use them on next hanted af.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And don't forget to subscribe to honted aff on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher,
wherever you listen to podcasts. Please follow us on Facebook,
Twitter or Instagram, YouTube, and of course TikTok. You can
even contact us directly through our website hauntdaf dot com.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Got to say thanks to Andrew Mamalica and Travis Vance
for the HONTIDAEF theme song, and to on Air Media
for titles and technical support. Also big thanks to all
of the Hontidae Patreon supporters.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Most of all, we have to thank you for listening
and for sharing your stories with us. By the way, Julie,
if I die first, I'm coming back to haunt you all.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Come back to haunt you too.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Rebecca
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