September 16, 2025 • 44 mins
Max and Rob continue to talk about the Steelers' poor performance against Seattle and are joined by Steelers' Spanish broadcaster Alvaro Martin.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is in the locker room with King and Starks
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we thank you very much for being with us
inside the locker room alongside Max Starks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Max.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hope you're doing well today.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We are. We are here, present and accounted for Rob.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's lovely news. So did you watch the football last night?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I watched both games too, through its entirety, and I
did the postgame show for serious except So yes, definitely
definitely had to watch both those games.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So your thoughts on what you saw? So I was
at other works duties and could not I watched fleeting
moments of the game, was not able to lock into it.
So tell me what you saw, because I see the
results and we'll talk about the results in a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But what did you see from both those games?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean ten thousand foot view? You know, Tampa Bay
just just fought, they didn't give up. You saw a
swarming defense that just was relentless.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I mean c J. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
The numbers don't do it justice the amount of dress
and pressure that he was under almost the entire night.
And just look in the offensive line has not improved
for Houston. You got rid of Larry Tunsul, brought all
these resources and you know, it just it just still
has not really helped him. He was under a lot
of stress and pressure, you know, for Tampa For Tampa Bay,
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I mean, Baker Mayfield has a clutch gen.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna call it what it is.
He has a very clutch gene and and.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
He was gutsy. The run game was was really good.
But I will say this, that offensive line for Tampa
Bay looked like the very same offensive line that showed
up to the second preseason game in Aker Sure Stadium.
Uh yeah, Graham Barton playing left tackle, which was his
position at college. Your starting center had to go there.
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Charlie Heck was was it at right tackle? And Charlie
Heck is all Heck that was the guy that was
that was giving up issues in the preseason game against US.
So now they've got they've got to get better. But
I'll tell you what they ran the ball when they
needed to and got the job done, and Baker Bayfield
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played really well and that and that defense.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The hit of the night.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Was was what's his name was? I can't remember his
first name, but he came off the edge and he
hit Ogan Bwily and Ogum Bwile for Houston what got decleted.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Thrown to the side before CJ got sacked.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It was one of the craziest plays to witness and
watch that you could ever imagine. So that was just
kind of a microcosm of that of that Houston Tampa
bay game. When I look at the Chargers, I had
to say the Chargers. I feel like we're gonna say this,
the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Are for real this year.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I wondered about that they are for real.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Question back to back Division games to start the season
on the road. I know one of them counts technically
as a home game, but South Paulo, Brazil is a
little far from Los Angeles, California, and they just they
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just suppressed and smothered everything that Las Vegas wanted to do.
Gino Smith had a terrible night. The run game didn't
really get started with Ashton gent because I mean, I
felt like there was a couple of where he just
could have broken it. If they just would have kept
with the run game, that would have helped him out
a whole lot, giving them some relief. And the Los
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Angeles defense was just swarming.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
They turned Geno over three times. Uh, they sacked him
another four times. He was under constant pressure. Rock Bowers
didn't really do anything. It was it was it was,
it was a domination. I mean the score set twenty
to nine. Uh, they turned Las Vegas away a number
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of times, and even when there were sudden changed turnovers,
Las Vegas couldn't take advantage of it. So it was
just it was a It was a very convincing thing
to that almost has me on the verge of saying
Los Angeles is is.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Is the real deal? Close?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Haven't said it yet, but they're they're they're getting they're
getting closer. And they looked very efficient, justin Herbert that
we're now starting to see this turn into you know,
it went and went from ground and pound Roman to
air air Roman. With this offense, it is squarely and
justin Herbert's hands like it is a passing offense.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
They didn't really run the ball that well. They need
to They need to work on that nag. He got
more of got more of a workload. Marion Hampton had
a big fumble in the game towards the end, but
you know, the defense held.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They lost Khalil Mack.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He he came back out with a sling something with
his with his left arm.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It just it fell awkward.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I mean, it almost looked like it might have been
a separated shoulder, you know, but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
But he had a sack before before before his night
was cut short.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So yeah, it's kind of my perspective on looking back
on it and knowing what what some of those games,
you know, when some of some of the issues were
in some of the bright spots.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So Max, if you're a Steelers fan, and of course
if you're listening to this show, you're probably a Steelers fan,
then you have to be pretty happy with the fact
that there are some teams, you know, thought to be
contenders that have AFC losses and that are not off
to good start. So you're one one, okay, So that's
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that's great. You know, Cincinnati maybe a surprising two and oh,
the Colts definitely a surprising two and oh, but Houston
is oh and two. Kansas City is oh and two,
and you know that that does not you know, Miami, right,
I didn't have much.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I didn't really have high hopes for for Miami.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I feel like they're one of those teams that's always
they're on the cusp of a playoff berth, so they're always.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
In the hunt.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
And I would say now, especially after the Jets kind
of jetting themselves, uh, you know, this past weekend, so
I have to put them in there because you have
to look at who who's in the contender category, you know,
at least two teams in each division, right, and for
the AFC East, we know it's you know, it's Buffalo's
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number one. The Jets are now one two and Justin
Fields is out, So scratch them off the list, Dolphins,
because who else?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Who else are you picking here?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
If they can keep too healthy, they've got a puncher's chance.
And New England's interesting and we're gonna I'm very we'll
see that. But yeah, I'm very interested to see my
you know, I hate to even say this before the game,
but my feeling on them is, you know, it's a
long way to go from where they've been the last
couple of years to being a contend. But I think
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they've taken you know, they've taken a solid step forward.
You know, they'll get some more draft choices next year,
they'll take another solid step forward. I don't know what
their cap situation is, but they're a team that could
wind up in a year or two if May is
the guy being scary, and that's the big thing we'll
find out if May is the guy. And the other
thing too is if May is the guy, he could
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always you know, throw you at an upset. So you know,
I've got my eyebrow raised at New England. I'm interested
to see what they've got.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
No, I'm not taking anything for granted after a game
on Sunday. So I'm not sitting here saying everything's a gimme,
because just because you show up doesn't mean you win
the game, right, right, Just because your roster looks better
doesn't mean you win the game. Games are won by
people and people that care, people that are skilled, and
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people that work hard at their craft. So that's why
I believe it says any given Sunday, and you can't
take it for granted. You can't come in and expect
to be you know, expect to just win and team's
going to bow down to you because of who that
team was a year ago or who their personnel is.
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Now we get to do sixty minutes of physical, gladiatorial
battle and see who comes out on top, and then
once o' clock strikes zero in the fourth quarter and
the dust settles, then we get to make our decisions.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
So that's what I love about this game.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And that's why you can never take anything for granted.
Now we can do analysis, we can look at things,
and we can perceive what we believe to be advantages
and disadvantages, but at the end of the day, it's
a human business and human emotions come into it. So
there's people who have pride in their work, so you
have to account for that human element as well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and you know, I think it's it's fun to
forecast what's gonna happen. It's fun to look around as
a fan and say, well, who do we think is
going to take that leap forward? And I mean the
Chargers of ten and seven year a year ago, they
were already a good football team, got bounced in the
first round by Houston, lost pretty convincingly in that game,
and then they have an offseason in which they shine
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Rashawn Slater to a massive deal and Rashawn almost instantaneously
gets hurt and he's out for the year. And that okay,
so that feels like a big loss, and you know,
so people maybe kind of move on from the Chargers.
But they're an interesting team. Houston's an interesting team, even
with the situation that at the offensive line. I'm sure
the fans in Houston are pulling their hair out right now,
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you know, much like there are some fans, although it
seems like a relatively measured response here in Pittsburgh, but
you know, some fans are pulling their hair out to
the fact that the Steelers lost at home to Seattle.
It's early season football. There's so much to be gained lost,
There's so much improvement to happen, you know, it's you
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can't really make generalizations now. Having said that, it really
is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, it absolutely is fun.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And I mean, this is this is a game that
that just provides so much, right, I mean, as a
young person, you learn accountability, you learn teamwork, you learn
you know, you learn how.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
To compromise and work with others for a common goal.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
There's just so many life skills that can be gleaned
from this. And then as you grow up and you
follow the sport, you follow your friends, you follow your
parents team, right, and then you develop even further relationship
and love with this sport. And then when it gets
to the professional level, it's full blown. I mean, fan
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is short for a fanatic. And that's a good thing.
It's a good thing to have pride, you know, in
your team, to for your team, to cheer for your
team because you know it's it's it's a great adventure.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It's a great unknown.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You never you never know when a team can make
that turn, make that switch, and then you watch them
go on a run.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, you know, football is a game of runs.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Football is a game of streaks, good, bad, and indifferent,
just like a lot of professional sports. And you want
to ride that wave in that emotion you hopefully you
get you get the high wave right where it's the
win streak wave and not the low wave, which is
a losing streak wave. But you know this, this game
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is such a special thing, such a great, great pastime
and a great American sport, and it's full of people
and you know what you just you just want to
see these two teams do battle, and you want your
team to win more than they lose by the end
of the season, and they win that Willie Wanka Golden ticket,
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there's such you know, joy and when you get that opportunity.
And I know the Steelers haven't, I haven't done much
with their golden tickets over over the last number of years.
But the fact that we get one and you get
to you get to survive. It's a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The hope is still.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There, the candles still flickering in the window sill, just
a little bit longer, and praying that does not get
you know, it does not get knocked out, and your
team can be victorious. And we have a very proud franchise,
one of the best in all of all of sports.
And the Steelers, who's tied for doing it the most,
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Actually we were the first to do it the most.
So I'm going to take that title.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
New England.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yes, you came second, short, short, spent one quarterback on
one coach waited to take advantage of a you know
of an era.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I can't blame them on that.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And and listen, Patrick Mahomes is trying to do his
best impression of Tom Brady with that is, but you know,
sustain success over years. Uh, it's such a it's such
a blessing. We don't go through the ills, we don't
go through the growing pains. I mean, we go through
growing pains, we don't go through the tear down and
reconstruction phase. A lot of people can be quick to
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judge and say that's what that's what you need to do.
But when you haven't done it for two decades, I
don't think you ever have an appetite for something like that.
That's just me, right, Rob. I mean I'm not I'm
not crazy about that. I don't want to go through
that constant process of trying to figure out what is
our identity? Who are we going to get? Rolling through
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quarterbacks every you know, every time in the draft and
wasting precious draft capital. We did it once and it
wasn't that great. And you know we look at that
young man and he's on his fourth team that was
just playing last night.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, yeah, it's especially true because it doesn't work, you know.
I mean I think the Rams made it work, right,
The Rams made it work. They went out and made
the big splash moves and then they got all these
draft choices who they turned into Puka.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Nakua and other really terrific players. So that they did
they did a fantastic job.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I remember, you know, Daniel Snyder doing it in Washington
every single year.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It never worked. What the suitors do is tried and true.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It works, and I think that, you know, if you're
a fan, there would be you know, some excitement about
you know, being Washington and hey, we got all these guys.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
But you know, a game or two into the season,
you might.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think to yourself, boy, this looks just like last year,
same same kind of pickups, same kind of lack of success.
So it is, it's tried and true in Pittsburgh. And
I do want to ask you when you think can
can you look? I think, you know, through two games
it's hard. You can't make a generalization about every team, right.
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I think that you know, Buffalo is really good. Nobody
surprised by that. Philadelphia is really good, Nobody surprised by that.
Green Bay. I don't think there's too many people surprised
by that. After the Parsons trade. You know, some of
the teams, like the Colts, weren't supposed to be very good.
They're two and I don't know what to make them.
I mean, I think we can kind of, you know,
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generally say those three teams are really good, and probably
Baltimore's really good too, But everybody else, I think it's
it's uh, you know, the story and look, their story
still needs to be told. Obviously it's only week two,
but they're trending in that direction that that is on
the track of expectations that people had for them, whereas
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Indianapolis is not. When do you think and we'll talk
more about this maybe later today, about you know, what
teams seem to be heading in the right direction. Do
you think there's a time understanding that you know, you
might not really know about Cincinnati until Burrow comes back,
right if you can kind of hang in there and
Burrow comes back. You know, injuries happen to teams. I'm
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just using that as an example. You know, players get better,
rookies start to come on, rookies start to fade. All
kinds of things happen over the course of a season.
That's why they play seventeen games in eighteen weeks. Is
there a time of year where you personally think, okay,
for the most part. I mean, I don't think anybody
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had the Steelers when you guys won the Super Bowl
right going to you know, needing that run at the
end of the season, getting in as a wild card
and going on your merry way. I don't think before
you guys went on that run at the end of
the season, people would have said, now there's the team
that's gonna win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Once you got on the role in the.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Last six weeks, people said, Hi, you don't want to
you don't want to play the Steelers. But do you
think generally speaking, there's a point of the season where
you can begin to get a really good evaluation.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I think I think for me, I was I was
putting it out the first five weeks. That's where I
thought our first five games, I should say, because taking
week five we have a bye this year, I would
say I would say five games into the season as well,
looking for like that would give me a true barometer
of what the team is. You've had, you had a
month in a game to really adjust, and I say five. Normally,
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you know, I would like it to be the first
five weeks. But since we're having a buy so early,
you know, that always changes. Things a little bit because
health can come into that play where you could get
guys healthier that you didn't expect that you needed that.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And as many interesties.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That we've as we've had and sustained defensively this early,
you know that bye week actually looks really appetizing right now,
like can we just get to this by? You know,
when you've lost as many guys on the starting lineups defensively,
you've tested the depth and guys just you know, getting
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worn out. I think after the bye, that game after
the by really tell me and give me a sample
size that you can really extrapolate and see, Okay, what
do we have here? Because you look at you know,
first game was a very physical run, dual threat mobile
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quarterback game that they played and you figure out a
way to win.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It didn't look pretty.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Now you've had the Seattle game where this was a
team we knew wanted to run the ball, establish a
run and run the play, actually pass well they did
all of that, and you know, your run defense got
a little bit better, The pass rush or turnover game
got a little bit better, but it still wasn't good enough,
and your offense sputtered. Had some bright spots, but sputtered
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along the way. Special team still in needs work as
much as we just like to kind of set it
and forget it. It's something apparently a rule as this
is not a punt, and even if it is a
punt and you touch it, it's a live ball that
you got to work through with some rookies.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So that is one that I'm just looking at it.
I'm just like wow.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
But it's it's going through changes. So first five games
is usually what I give it, and then you kind
of know who you got and what you have.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Good deal.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So we have Alvalo Martin, the great Spanish play by
play man for the Steelers. He's gonna be joining us,
let's say Tuesday with Labs. He'll be joining us a
little bit later on when we continue inside the Locker
Room with King and Starks, presented by your neighborhood Ford Store.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
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Speaker 4 (20:49):
Come all right.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And no quock a bet for he?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Gay met cop?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Did I hear a numero wat throw number four? DK
metcap Alvaro Martin? Did I get that right?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Good morning, Good morning, Alvaro? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
You know? It wasn't quite like the Jets game where
they put us out.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
There were no boots for us. He put us out
into the press box area. When that typically happens happens
about once a year. I think it's gonna happen more
often then. I usually feel like, you know, screaming even louder, right,
and if anybody can play.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Both talked to the home team right in this case.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
In this case, I had the entire Pittsburgh press row
in front of me, and I don't know, I got
mixed reviews.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
A couple of guys walked up the stairs to the
second level we're in and shot me some looks that.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Weren't friendly, and then but one guy came over and
asked for a selfie and a three view. Second guy
came up and said, I learned a lot of Spanish today.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's great, Alva Martine. Is that Alvarro mart the seene
is our guest. He played by play for this yeasons
in the Spanish speaking broadcast before. I I know Max
has a ton of questions for you, but I just
wanted to ask alvro. Yesterday was Roberto Clemente Day in Pittsburgh,
and you know, members of the Pirates organization. Look, it
celebrated all around baseball, and I'm sure other organizations do
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the same thing, but it's a really big deal here
in Pittsburgh where all the players go out and you know,
they fix fields and load knapsacks and you know they're
working all day in the community before they go to
the ballpark. And there was for the first time Roberto
Clemente Junior was with numerous former Clemente winners and with
Carlos Baierga on the call calling the game in Spanish,
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and I just I didn't know if you were aware
of that or if you had any feelings about about
that breakthrough event last night.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I mean, it's gonna take more than twenty minutes. Rob
I was born and raised in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It starts there. I did not know yet.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
So when I was nine years old, and you know,
facing a brilliant baseball career starting in Little League.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
He was my hero. When that plane crashed New Year's Eve,
we went.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
I remember going the next date of church, dressed in
our little uniforms, praying, thinking, Oh, he's going to show up.
He's going to show up. Man, he's going to show up.
Someone's going to find him floating on the ocean and
bring him back.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
We were crushed.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
All I can tell you is for my generation, and
I can tell you this, My heroes are my parents
and Roberto.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
No one can rise to that level. And I've met
a lot of great people in my life. No one
can rise to that level. No one can bump any
of them, any of those three, and so it means
a lot. I was at the bridge for the celebration
on Saturday, saw Roberto Junior told me with carls Biergra.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
They told me about the game.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
It's kind of weird that it's the first one in
Spanish in Pittsburgh sponsored by the team.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
It's really odd to see that. I'm glad they did that.
I hope they do more.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
But beyond that, then we went to the premiere of
a documentary done by Vinevery Hill also kipped in with
money from you know.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It was great because they focus on the man.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
They talk about the sporting side to kind of fill
people in and oh, by the way, look what he
was doing on the field, But it's really about the man.
There's one play though, I want to highlight, in that
sixty nine World Series against the Orioles. A grounder against
Quaar one out men on first and it's going to
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be an out, potentially a double play, but Roberto hustled
his life out, got the first base, kept the eating alive,
and then they scored a run, which was a difference
in the game. The hustle, the attitude that you focus
on your job at hand, your task at hand, what's
your job hit the ball?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
You hit the ball, what's your job get the first
no matter what happened.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Blocking out everything else sports is a rare attribute for
any human being, particularly an athlete. And I thought about
that play as I saw part of what we saw
on Sunday play and I thought, wow, you know, Roberto
would have never played certain plays that way because he
just didn't have an in him. But it's a tremendous day.
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I still believe that it will be very difficult for
baseball to retire a.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Second number across all teams, totally agree.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
But again, if there's one, if there's one person that
deserves it is Roberto yep. And I think the issue
there is simply simply is Babe, Ruth, everybody else you
can throw in there, because the argument is if you
start with twenty one, then what else do you retire?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
And the answer, the answer is who else was as
a man community?
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Who who else had an impact on the planet through
his example the way he did? And I think that
the answer is just there aren't many. So so for
a great weekend, I saw WUIs Roberto as well this
other son and of course it's it was.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Tough for me.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
It's really really tough for me after all these years
to not get emotional watching that that film, and I
keep thinking of their kids who just have to relive
this tragedy over and over again every day of their lives.
It's it's it's really amazing. But I'm glad that Pittsburgh
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remembers him and I'll never forget him. And I mean,
I have a Clemente shirt.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Which I wore on Sally.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
It's an important it's an incredible person, uh and had
an influence in my life that that continues is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Today, Max, I know you want to talk some football
alvro Thank you so much for that answer, and I
agree with you wholeheartedly. I would love to see twenty
one retired around baseball loves. So, Max, I know you
have some football questions.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Get it's it's it's it's tough to ask football questions
after after you get there. I'm gonna be honest because,
like you said, I mean, the impact of Roberto Clemente
is just and it really transcends all of sports. You know,
he was he was that larger than life figure. He
was an individual that did so much. And you know
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when I was when I was a young man in Pittsburgh, Uh,
that's when I became acquainted with Clemente Junior and uh,
Junior and I we're buddies for a little while, and
so you know, I just kind of lost touch over time,
and it was it was so great to see him,
you know, pop up, and you know, I hadn't talked
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to him in forever, so it was it was awesome.
And it is emotional when you think about just how tragic,
you know, the loss and how it happened. But we're
gonna we're gonna talk about football, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna get.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Myself squared up Alvaro.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I know, we had DK's first touchdown as a Steeler.
We had the Brett Favre tying touchdown toss by Aaron Rodgers,
so milestone special moments. Jalen Ramsey had his first interception
as a Steeler. Gek Kirbie gets to play. But what
are your thoughts initially after the game, the aftermath of
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the game, what are you know a couple of your
of your initial takeaways.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Well, has a sun come up after four pm on Sunday?
I think it's so dark. I mean, when you look
at everything you see, you think there's no hope.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I have to think, to some extent, my hope and
my my expectation is that preseason and the lack of
reps as a unit in preseason is affecting all teams clearly,
but it's affecting the Steelers probably the most because of
all the changes in the in the in the in
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the lineup and in rolls as well. So I think
I have to think that there's a little bit of
that at play. Of all the things that concern you
about the Steelers, and there are many. When you think
about the battery, the Coons to Weightman to Boswell being
the solid rock of this team, that's great and I
love them and they deserve kudos. But if that's the
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best and shining part of your team, then the rest
of the team is in trouble. The one the one
area I'm going to summarize it in one just that
first down yard which allowed second War some in Chicago
was allowed more Pittsburghs allowing seven and a half yards
for first down.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Seven and a half.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And when you see the troubles on turd and long,
it's the same trouble you have on first down, the same,
the same explanations for opponents converting Thurton longs, which, by
the way, is that a fifty clip long defined as
four yards or more fifty.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Over two games is exactly what.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Happens on first down when you're supposed to have a
good beat on the opponent, you've come off the bench,
you've had a chance.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
To regroup, and you show up and you're supposed to
do your job. It's again, there are many many reasons
why that happens. It's a group effort. Really, when it
suc seasoned. When it doesn't, it is a group effort,
but it is really disappointing.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
One other little stat that just points to the sloppiness
in terms of miss tackles. Last year the NFL, the
team that had the fewest tackles misstackles defensively were the
Pittsburgh Deelers four per game. This year, they lead the
NFL with fourteen miss tackles a game. So they've gotten
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from literally the best team to the worst team. It's
over two games at the start of the season.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
You know, you still have the kind of the after
effect of a little preseason cohesion, but the difference is
so stark that it's very It's concerning for sure.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Well, I mean that that that stat right there was
was a very that's that's a very glaring stat when
you talk about that literally going from first to worse
in that category, and I think, you know, I think
I think you kind of hit hit on a on
a great point.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
The lack of preseason cohesion.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
You had a lot of stuff, a lot of guys
missing ball that were quote unquote on the on the
I call it the arrival list, but we know it's
it's the veteran list of guys that you don't want
to get injured and don't want to expose them to.
And it's just it's one of those things that I
know it has been pointed out, you know, it's just
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that communication. You have a lot of new guys, the
injuries that are piled up so early in this season.
You know, you start the season, Derek Harmon is not available.
You go into the first quarter of the game or
your first game, you lose to Shawn Elliott, Juan Thornhill new.
Now you insert Chuck Clark, who's new. You lose JPJ
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in the first game, and now Brandon Eccles, who's new,
is replacing him. Then then you lose Millie Harrison, who
is supposed to be a key contributor and kind of
a swing outside guy. Nick Krbick doesn't play the first
preseason game, who already didn't play really that much in
the preseason at all.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And then you throw in.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Isaiah Laudermilt going out on top of Alex Heismith, who
was injured and kind of hampered in the preseason. Now
he's injured again and we'll see the extent of his injury.
And Mike Tomin will address that a little bit later today,
right after this broadcast with his with his weekly Tuesday
press conference. Alvert, I mean, you hate to say when
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when it when it rains, it pours, but like you said,
all of these things, and it's it's like, but you
still have guys out there, still trying to bust their butt,
but it's just it's tough with the.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Way the current construct is.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And I feel like the first three games of the season,
of the regular season really ends.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Up being your preseason all over again.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Is that a true assessment or do you think, no,
you just gotta just gotta just gotta buck up.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
We would see that on offense. We'd see that with
late Ben Roethlisberger. You would see that in his final
years where it took them a couple of games to
kind of get going and getting sync. So you expect
that out of that because it's a little bit trickier
because their plays have a.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Lot more moving parts, uh than a defense.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
You certainly expect the defense to be a little sharper
and actually to wear out as the season goes on.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
There's one more factor that you did not.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Include, which is something that's a coaching decision that I
can see why they do it, and I can see
the benefits of it, but I think maybe having an
effect as well in this early part of the season,
and that is that they're giving the veterans a few
more plays off. In other words, they're deepening the rotation,
which adds to the different combinations of players potentially communications issues,
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role issues, and whatnot. I think that it's wise to
do what they're doing, and the payoff will come at
the end of the season, which is when you really
need it, but maybe you start. You're paying a little
bit of the price right now in doing that, and
so you'll see players that are typically bench players play
a little bit more, few more snaps, and the starters
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play a few less snaps to keep them fresh. That's great,
and again it will pay off in the end. But
this perhaps it's hurting you right now. But to allow
four hundred yards per game, to allow two hundred yards
in the first half of a game, it's very on
Pittsburgh like. And to let the the boting team have
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its way in the first on first down, it's to
me the success of the team is to place the
opponent on third and long h often. So again you
won't win them all, but you'll put them in that
situation often. And it all starts in the early downs
and you cannot do that. You're skating. You're skating. You
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just can't stand on the ground and pick a spot
and defend it. And which, by the way, points out
to another point that I'm looking at at video without
being a coach, of course, I'm going to be the
first one to admit that. But at the point of attack,
in the middle of the defensive line, there there are
combination blocks, you know, double teams, double blocks on some
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of the guys in that line, and they're fighting the
blocks to get to the ball, when sometimes all you
have to do is not just stay where you are,
don't move, don't get blown away, stand your ground, literally
occupy a space that's gonna make the opposed the opposing
offenses play has to go around you as opposed to
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try to figure out a way to get to the
ball carrier or to get to the ball no standing.
And I think that may be a start too, in
that specific area where you just don't get displaced. I
know it's easy for me to say it's very hard
to do, but to me, it starts it starts there.
It's that that that that the middle of that line
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has to be stoutered just to stay in place.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Don't worry about getting to the ball carrier.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
It's gonna be very hard, almost impossible if your double
team just stay in place, occupy a space, make people
go around you instead of doing.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And I think, I think that that's that's kind of
what I've been talking about. Funny to hear you put
it into your words. Yeah, it's it's about not staying
blocked defensively, like not allowing this team to push and
and wait too many times in the interior they got
a surge on the double team, and then when they
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when they don't get that surge, a guy doesn't defend
his gap. He tries to jump out of his gap,
tries to run around it, to try and think that
I'm fast enough to move around in there. It's like, no,
you just created a moving wall, like the double team.
If you disengage one way or another, they create a wall.
Working up to the next level is technically what I
want as an offensive lineman. I want you to get
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out of your gap assignment, because the double team is
meant to move that gap. And when you vacate that gap,
you make it a lot easier on me because you're
trying to try a move. And this is where the
new A three four versus the three four that I
played against back in the day, those down linemen were
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two gappers. Right now, you know this crew does it
really two gap? They don't really know. You know, John
Mitchell was just the most tremendou this defensive line teacher
of the three four and what Dick Lebo wanted to do.
And when they decided that you weren't going to move
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him on the double team, you weren't going to move
them with Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Keemo von Olhoffen and
then even later a guy with with with the size
dimensions of a Brett Keesel, who would traditionally be a
four to three defensive end, learned how to play the
three four and learned how to make sure that guys
could not move him off the ball and that you
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weren't going to run into his gap.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Like that's where it's.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Different, because you know now it's more of a penetrating
three four like Greek havoc in a three four. And
this is that that's where the disadvantage is versus a
traditional four three like four to three, you could blow
guys up the field, right, you can. You could create havoc,
cut off, rush lane, force a cut back too soon,
and it works. But in a three four everything is
meant to be forced flow to the linebackers. So you're
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trying to create these two canals that the that the
that the running back has to funnel to, and that's
the whole kind of genius of the three four, and
that's why you put it in there. But the philosophies
have kind of melded together the three down versus the
four down, and that's where we're finding those issues. But
you're absolutely right, Alro, that's what That's what I've kind
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of said from it last week and it carried over
to this week.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You have to defend your gap.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
You have to disengage from blocks, or you have to
split the double team and be there to turn the
guy away. And far too many times guys did get
blown off the ball. Guys did not disengage from blocks.
But it's something that they can do and I've seen
them do it because you just listed to stand the
majority of those guys that were that were responsible for
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that a year ago. Are still on this team today,
so they know what it is. But I think it's
a lack of conditioning, a lack of playing together.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
Kenneth Walker K nine, the running back for Seattle, had
himself a very very nice run eight point one yards
per carry, that's the second best in his career and
one hundred and five yards for the whole game. That's
the fifth best out of forty three games he's played
in the NFL. He just got himself close to a
career year. Typically only left by the way, I should say,
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which is another element that's going on.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
You know, it's a tribute to TJ.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Watt, not just that he's double team in triple team,
but the teams. It started kind of like with Dallas
last year. Teams have figure out, you know what, let's
just literally move the ball away from the right side
of our offense, which is where DJ is closest to,
and just move everything away to the other side and
make it hard for TJ to even come close to
the ball because anywhere is near.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
The ball our ball, it won't be ours for long.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
And so if you saw that Kenneth Walker third and
goal from the nineteen score, they went.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Left ye, going left as far left as they could.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Literally ran out of room out there almost by the way.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
On that play, Patrick puts out a hand signal behind
his left buttockx Juan reads it and then starts saying
something and Patrick Wilson turns his head to see what's
going on, and by the time he turned his head back.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
The play already had started.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Oh boy.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
And he made a move and he came real close,
but he couldn't quite tackle Canine. I'm not saying that
that that necessarily led to the other Cain. I mean
wiggled free, even if Wilson had been on him the
entire time. But you notice things in that play, and
you wonder if he had been just staring ahead of him,
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particularly at the running back, and he came so close
tackle he just took a slightly off angle and and
Walker did a nice job she kind of shifting away,
and jettis saying him, you wonder if that play could
have been avoided. And I mean if you would have
had a field goal and would have making my chances
on that field on the on the rooty side of
the of the field, right, that's right, brob, I call
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the close side of the field of Rooney Side because
the chief had his house in the back of that end.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Then zone in that that direction, and I call the
open one the Ohio end of the stadium. I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I love it, and I love having Alvarro Martin my
first time as a as a new guy in the
locker room to be with us. Alvaro, thank you so much,
much appreciated. We will see you in New England.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
Yes, yes, yes, indeed, good luck. I'm going to start
today so I can make it to the game on Sunday.
Fox Sports is not the easiest place to get in.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
No, no, it isn't safe travels my friend. We will
see up there.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Appreciate it, gentlemen, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
That's Alvaro Martin, the great play by play uh, the
Spanish broadcaster for the Pittsburgh stee This.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We have Bob Labrielle coming up in just a little bit.
Right now, we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
This is inside the locker room with King and Starts,
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Speaker 1 (43:02):
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Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we thank you for being with us on this
Tuesday as we sort of put a rap on this loss,
the thirty one seventeen defeat to Seattle. We get to
hump Day tomorrow and begin to look forward to a
new England team that improved to one and one by
winning in Miami for the first time since twenty nineteen.
So they're going to be heading back to Foxborough with
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a lot of vim and vigor as they get ready
to host the Steelers on Sunday afternoon at one pm.
I want to thank Alvalo Martin, the great play by
play guy, the Spanish broadcaster for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Being on with us.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Bob Labriola is coming up next hour as well. In fact,
in just a few minutes, so Labs will be with us.
We'll also continue our look around the NFL. We started
that and we will continue that two weeks into the
season to kind of get a bird's eye view of
the landscape in the NFL. All that and more coming
up next inside the locker Room with King and Starks,
presented by our neighborhood Ford store here on the Steelers
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we thank you very much for being with us
inside the locker room alongside Max Starks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Max.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hope you're doing well today.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We are. We are here, present and accounted for Rob.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's lovely news. So did you watch the football last night?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I watched both games too, through its entirety, and I
did the postgame show for serious except So yes, definitely
definitely had to watch both those games.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So your thoughts on what you saw? So I was
at other works duties and could not I watched fleeting
moments of the game, was not able to lock into it.
So tell me what you saw, because I see the
results and we'll talk about the results in a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But what did you see from both those games?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean ten thousand foot view? You know, Tampa Bay
just just fought, they didn't give up. You saw a
swarming defense that just was relentless.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I mean c J. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
The numbers don't do it justice the amount of dress
and pressure that he was under almost the entire night.
And just look in the offensive line has not improved
for Houston. You got rid of Larry Tunsul, brought all
these resources and you know, it just it just still
has not really helped him. He was under a lot
of stress and pressure, you know, for Tampa For Tampa Bay,
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I mean, Baker Mayfield has a clutch gen.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna call it what it is.
He has a very clutch gene and and.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
He was gutsy. The run game was was really good.
But I will say this, that offensive line for Tampa
Bay looked like the very same offensive line that showed
up to the second preseason game in Aker Sure Stadium.
Uh yeah, Graham Barton playing left tackle, which was his
position at college. Your starting center had to go there.
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Charlie Heck was was it at right tackle? And Charlie
Heck is all Heck that was the guy that was
that was giving up issues in the preseason game against US.
So now they've got they've got to get better. But
I'll tell you what they ran the ball when they
needed to and got the job done, and Baker Bayfield
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played really well and that and that defense.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The hit of the night.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Was was what's his name was? I can't remember his
first name, but he came off the edge and he
hit Ogan Bwily and Ogum Bwile for Houston what got decleted.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Thrown to the side before CJ got sacked.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It was one of the craziest plays to witness and
watch that you could ever imagine. So that was just
kind of a microcosm of that of that Houston Tampa
bay game. When I look at the Chargers, I had
to say the Chargers. I feel like we're gonna say this,
the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Are for real this year.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I wondered about that they are for real.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Question back to back Division games to start the season
on the road. I know one of them counts technically
as a home game, but South Paulo, Brazil is a
little far from Los Angeles, California, and they just they
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just suppressed and smothered everything that Las Vegas wanted to do.
Gino Smith had a terrible night. The run game didn't
really get started with Ashton gent because I mean, I
felt like there was a couple of where he just
could have broken it. If they just would have kept
with the run game, that would have helped him out
a whole lot, giving them some relief. And the Los
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Angeles defense was just swarming.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
They turned Geno over three times. Uh, they sacked him
another four times. He was under constant pressure. Rock Bowers
didn't really do anything. It was it was it was,
it was a domination. I mean the score set twenty
to nine. Uh, they turned Las Vegas away a number
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of times, and even when there were sudden changed turnovers,
Las Vegas couldn't take advantage of it. So it was
just it was a It was a very convincing thing
to that almost has me on the verge of saying
Los Angeles is is.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Is the real deal? Close?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Haven't said it yet, but they're they're they're getting they're
getting closer. And they looked very efficient, justin Herbert that
we're now starting to see this turn into you know,
it went and went from ground and pound Roman to
air air Roman. With this offense, it is squarely and
justin Herbert's hands like it is a passing offense.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
They didn't really run the ball that well. They need
to They need to work on that nag. He got
more of got more of a workload. Marion Hampton had
a big fumble in the game towards the end, but
you know, the defense held.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They lost Khalil Mack.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He he came back out with a sling something with
his with his left arm.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It just it fell awkward.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I mean, it almost looked like it might have been
a separated shoulder, you know, but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
But he had a sack before before before his night
was cut short.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So yeah, it's kind of my perspective on looking back
on it and knowing what what some of those games,
you know, when some of some of the issues were
in some of the bright spots.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So Max, if you're a Steelers fan, and of course
if you're listening to this show, you're probably a Steelers fan,
then you have to be pretty happy with the fact
that there are some teams, you know, thought to be
contenders that have AFC losses and that are not off
to good start. So you're one one, okay, So that's
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that's great. You know, Cincinnati maybe a surprising two and oh,
the Colts definitely a surprising two and oh, but Houston
is oh and two. Kansas City is oh and two,
and you know that that does not you know, Miami, right,
I didn't have much.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I didn't really have high hopes for for Miami.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I feel like they're one of those teams that's always
they're on the cusp of a playoff berth, so they're always.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
In the hunt.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
And I would say now, especially after the Jets kind
of jetting themselves, uh, you know, this past weekend, so
I have to put them in there because you have
to look at who who's in the contender category, you know,
at least two teams in each division, right, and for
the AFC East, we know it's you know, it's Buffalo's
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number one. The Jets are now one two and Justin
Fields is out, So scratch them off the list, Dolphins,
because who else?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Who else are you picking here?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
If they can keep too healthy, they've got a puncher's chance.
And New England's interesting and we're gonna I'm very we'll
see that. But yeah, I'm very interested to see my
you know, I hate to even say this before the game,
but my feeling on them is, you know, it's a
long way to go from where they've been the last
couple of years to being a contend. But I think
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they've taken you know, they've taken a solid step forward.
You know, they'll get some more draft choices next year,
they'll take another solid step forward. I don't know what
their cap situation is, but they're a team that could
wind up in a year or two if May is
the guy being scary, and that's the big thing we'll
find out if May is the guy. And the other
thing too is if May is the guy, he could
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always you know, throw you at an upset. So you know,
I've got my eyebrow raised at New England. I'm interested
to see what they've got.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
No, I'm not taking anything for granted after a game
on Sunday. So I'm not sitting here saying everything's a gimme,
because just because you show up doesn't mean you win
the game, right, right, Just because your roster looks better
doesn't mean you win the game. Games are won by
people and people that care, people that are skilled, and
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people that work hard at their craft. So that's why
I believe it says any given Sunday, and you can't
take it for granted. You can't come in and expect
to be you know, expect to just win and team's
going to bow down to you because of who that
team was a year ago or who their personnel is.
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Now we get to do sixty minutes of physical, gladiatorial
battle and see who comes out on top, and then
once o' clock strikes zero in the fourth quarter and
the dust settles, then we get to make our decisions.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
So that's what I love about this game.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And that's why you can never take anything for granted.
Now we can do analysis, we can look at things,
and we can perceive what we believe to be advantages
and disadvantages, but at the end of the day, it's
a human business and human emotions come into it. So
there's people who have pride in their work, so you
have to account for that human element as well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and you know, I think it's it's fun to
forecast what's gonna happen. It's fun to look around as
a fan and say, well, who do we think is
going to take that leap forward? And I mean the
Chargers of ten and seven year a year ago, they
were already a good football team, got bounced in the
first round by Houston, lost pretty convincingly in that game,
and then they have an offseason in which they shine
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Rashawn Slater to a massive deal and Rashawn almost instantaneously
gets hurt and he's out for the year. And that okay,
so that feels like a big loss, and you know,
so people maybe kind of move on from the Chargers.
But they're an interesting team. Houston's an interesting team, even
with the situation that at the offensive line. I'm sure
the fans in Houston are pulling their hair out right now,
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you know, much like there are some fans, although it
seems like a relatively measured response here in Pittsburgh, but
you know, some fans are pulling their hair out to
the fact that the Steelers lost at home to Seattle.
It's early season football. There's so much to be gained lost,
There's so much improvement to happen, you know, it's you
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can't really make generalizations now. Having said that, it really
is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, it absolutely is fun.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And I mean, this is this is a game that
that just provides so much, right, I mean, as a
young person, you learn accountability, you learn teamwork, you learn
you know, you learn how.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
To compromise and work with others for a common goal.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
There's just so many life skills that can be gleaned
from this. And then as you grow up and you
follow the sport, you follow your friends, you follow your
parents team, right, and then you develop even further relationship
and love with this sport. And then when it gets
to the professional level, it's full blown. I mean, fan
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is short for a fanatic. And that's a good thing.
It's a good thing to have pride, you know, in
your team, to for your team, to cheer for your
team because you know it's it's it's a great adventure.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It's a great unknown.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You never you never know when a team can make
that turn, make that switch, and then you watch them
go on a run.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, you know, football is a game of runs.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Football is a game of streaks, good, bad, and indifferent,
just like a lot of professional sports. And you want
to ride that wave in that emotion you hopefully you
get you get the high wave right where it's the
win streak wave and not the low wave, which is
a losing streak wave. But you know this, this game
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is such a special thing, such a great, great pastime
and a great American sport, and it's full of people
and you know what you just you just want to
see these two teams do battle, and you want your
team to win more than they lose by the end
of the season, and they win that Willie Wanka Golden ticket,
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there's such you know, joy and when you get that opportunity.
And I know the Steelers haven't, I haven't done much
with their golden tickets over over the last number of years.
But the fact that we get one and you get
to you get to survive. It's a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The hope is still.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There, the candles still flickering in the window sill, just
a little bit longer, and praying that does not get
you know, it does not get knocked out, and your
team can be victorious. And we have a very proud franchise,
one of the best in all of all of sports.
And the Steelers, who's tied for doing it the most,
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Actually we were the first to do it the most.
So I'm going to take that title.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
New England.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yes, you came second, short, short, spent one quarterback on
one coach waited to take advantage of a you know
of an era.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I can't blame them on that.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And and listen, Patrick Mahomes is trying to do his
best impression of Tom Brady with that is, but you know,
sustain success over years. Uh, it's such a it's such
a blessing. We don't go through the ills, we don't
go through the growing pains. I mean, we go through
growing pains, we don't go through the tear down and
reconstruction phase. A lot of people can be quick to
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judge and say that's what that's what you need to do.
But when you haven't done it for two decades, I
don't think you ever have an appetite for something like that.
That's just me, right, Rob. I mean I'm not I'm
not crazy about that. I don't want to go through
that constant process of trying to figure out what is
our identity? Who are we going to get? Rolling through
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quarterbacks every you know, every time in the draft and
wasting precious draft capital. We did it once and it
wasn't that great. And you know we look at that
young man and he's on his fourth team that was
just playing last night.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, yeah, it's especially true because it doesn't work, you know.
I mean I think the Rams made it work, right,
The Rams made it work. They went out and made
the big splash moves and then they got all these
draft choices who they turned into Puka.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Nakua and other really terrific players. So that they did
they did a fantastic job.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I remember, you know, Daniel Snyder doing it in Washington
every single year.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It never worked. What the suitors do is tried and true.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It works, and I think that, you know, if you're
a fan, there would be you know, some excitement about
you know, being Washington and hey, we got all these guys.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
But you know, a game or two into the season,
you might.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think to yourself, boy, this looks just like last year,
same same kind of pickups, same kind of lack of success.
So it is, it's tried and true in Pittsburgh. And
I do want to ask you when you think can
can you look? I think, you know, through two games
it's hard. You can't make a generalization about every team, right.
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I think that you know, Buffalo is really good. Nobody
surprised by that. Philadelphia is really good, Nobody surprised by that.
Green Bay. I don't think there's too many people surprised
by that. After the Parsons trade. You know, some of
the teams, like the Colts, weren't supposed to be very good.
They're two and I don't know what to make them.
I mean, I think we can kind of, you know,
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generally say those three teams are really good, and probably
Baltimore's really good too, But everybody else, I think it's
it's uh, you know, the story and look, their story
still needs to be told. Obviously it's only week two,
but they're trending in that direction that that is on
the track of expectations that people had for them, whereas
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Indianapolis is not. When do you think and we'll talk
more about this maybe later today, about you know, what
teams seem to be heading in the right direction. Do
you think there's a time understanding that you know, you
might not really know about Cincinnati until Burrow comes back,
right if you can kind of hang in there and
Burrow comes back. You know, injuries happen to teams. I'm
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just using that as an example. You know, players get better,
rookies start to come on, rookies start to fade. All
kinds of things happen over the course of a season.
That's why they play seventeen games in eighteen weeks. Is
there a time of year where you personally think, okay,
for the most part. I mean, I don't think anybody
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had the Steelers when you guys won the Super Bowl
right going to you know, needing that run at the
end of the season, getting in as a wild card
and going on your merry way. I don't think before
you guys went on that run at the end of
the season, people would have said, now there's the team
that's gonna win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Once you got on the role in the.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Last six weeks, people said, Hi, you don't want to
you don't want to play the Steelers. But do you
think generally speaking, there's a point of the season where
you can begin to get a really good evaluation.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I think I think for me, I was I was
putting it out the first five weeks. That's where I
thought our first five games, I should say, because taking
week five we have a bye this year, I would
say I would say five games into the season as well,
looking for like that would give me a true barometer
of what the team is. You've had, you had a
month in a game to really adjust, and I say five. Normally,
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you know, I would like it to be the first
five weeks. But since we're having a buy so early,
you know, that always changes. Things a little bit because
health can come into that play where you could get
guys healthier that you didn't expect that you needed that.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And as many interesties.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That we've as we've had and sustained defensively this early,
you know that bye week actually looks really appetizing right now,
like can we just get to this by? You know,
when you've lost as many guys on the starting lineups defensively,
you've tested the depth and guys just you know, getting
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worn out. I think after the bye, that game after
the by really tell me and give me a sample
size that you can really extrapolate and see, Okay, what
do we have here? Because you look at you know,
first game was a very physical run, dual threat mobile
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quarterback game that they played and you figure out a
way to win.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It didn't look pretty.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Now you've had the Seattle game where this was a
team we knew wanted to run the ball, establish a
run and run the play, actually pass well they did
all of that, and you know, your run defense got
a little bit better, The pass rush or turnover game
got a little bit better, but it still wasn't good enough,
and your offense sputtered. Had some bright spots, but sputtered
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along the way. Special team still in needs work as
much as we just like to kind of set it
and forget it. It's something apparently a rule as this
is not a punt, and even if it is a
punt and you touch it, it's a live ball that
you got to work through with some rookies.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So that is one that I'm just looking at it.
I'm just like wow.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
But it's it's going through changes. So first five games
is usually what I give it, and then you kind
of know who you got and what you have.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Good deal.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So we have Alvalo Martin, the great Spanish play by
play man for the Steelers. He's gonna be joining us,
let's say Tuesday with Labs. He'll be joining us a
little bit later on when we continue inside the Locker
Room with King and Starks, presented by your neighborhood Ford Store.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
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Speaker 4 (20:49):
Come all right.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And no quock a bet for he?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Gay met cop?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Did I hear a numero wat throw number four? DK
metcap Alvaro Martin? Did I get that right?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Good morning, Good morning, Alvaro? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
You know? It wasn't quite like the Jets game where
they put us out.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
There were no boots for us. He put us out
into the press box area. When that typically happens happens
about once a year. I think it's gonna happen more
often then. I usually feel like, you know, screaming even louder, right,
and if anybody can play.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Both talked to the home team right in this case.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
In this case, I had the entire Pittsburgh press row
in front of me, and I don't know, I got
mixed reviews.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
A couple of guys walked up the stairs to the
second level we're in and shot me some looks that.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Weren't friendly, and then but one guy came over and
asked for a selfie and a three view. Second guy
came up and said, I learned a lot of Spanish today.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's great, Alva Martine. Is that Alvarro mart the seene
is our guest. He played by play for this yeasons
in the Spanish speaking broadcast before. I I know Max
has a ton of questions for you, but I just
wanted to ask alvro. Yesterday was Roberto Clemente Day in Pittsburgh,
and you know, members of the Pirates organization. Look, it
celebrated all around baseball, and I'm sure other organizations do
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the same thing, but it's a really big deal here
in Pittsburgh where all the players go out and you know,
they fix fields and load knapsacks and you know they're
working all day in the community before they go to
the ballpark. And there was for the first time Roberto
Clemente Junior was with numerous former Clemente winners and with
Carlos Baierga on the call calling the game in Spanish,
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and I just I didn't know if you were aware
of that or if you had any feelings about about
that breakthrough event last night.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I mean, it's gonna take more than twenty minutes. Rob
I was born and raised in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It starts there. I did not know yet.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
So when I was nine years old, and you know,
facing a brilliant baseball career starting in Little League.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
He was my hero. When that plane crashed New Year's Eve,
we went.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
I remember going the next date of church, dressed in
our little uniforms, praying, thinking, Oh, he's going to show up.
He's going to show up. Man, he's going to show up.
Someone's going to find him floating on the ocean and
bring him back.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
We were crushed.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
All I can tell you is for my generation, and
I can tell you this, My heroes are my parents
and Roberto.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
No one can rise to that level. And I've met
a lot of great people in my life. No one
can rise to that level. No one can bump any
of them, any of those three, and so it means
a lot. I was at the bridge for the celebration
on Saturday, saw Roberto Junior told me with carls Biergra.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
They told me about the game.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
It's kind of weird that it's the first one in
Spanish in Pittsburgh sponsored by the team.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
It's really odd to see that. I'm glad they did that.
I hope they do more.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
But beyond that, then we went to the premiere of
a documentary done by Vinevery Hill also kipped in with
money from you know.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It was great because they focus on the man.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
They talk about the sporting side to kind of fill
people in and oh, by the way, look what he
was doing on the field, But it's really about the man.
There's one play though, I want to highlight, in that
sixty nine World Series against the Orioles. A grounder against
Quaar one out men on first and it's going to
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be an out, potentially a double play, but Roberto hustled
his life out, got the first base, kept the eating alive,
and then they scored a run, which was a difference
in the game. The hustle, the attitude that you focus
on your job at hand, your task at hand, what's
your job hit the ball?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
You hit the ball, what's your job get the first
no matter what happened.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Blocking out everything else sports is a rare attribute for
any human being, particularly an athlete. And I thought about
that play as I saw part of what we saw
on Sunday play and I thought, wow, you know, Roberto
would have never played certain plays that way because he
just didn't have an in him. But it's a tremendous day.
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I still believe that it will be very difficult for
baseball to retire a.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Second number across all teams, totally agree.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
But again, if there's one, if there's one person that
deserves it is Roberto yep. And I think the issue
there is simply simply is Babe, Ruth, everybody else you
can throw in there, because the argument is if you
start with twenty one, then what else do you retire?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
And the answer, the answer is who else was as
a man community?
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Who who else had an impact on the planet through
his example the way he did? And I think that
the answer is just there aren't many. So so for
a great weekend, I saw WUIs Roberto as well this
other son and of course it's it was.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Tough for me.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
It's really really tough for me after all these years
to not get emotional watching that that film, and I
keep thinking of their kids who just have to relive
this tragedy over and over again every day of their lives.
It's it's it's really amazing. But I'm glad that Pittsburgh
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remembers him and I'll never forget him. And I mean,
I have a Clemente shirt.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Which I wore on Sally.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
It's an important it's an incredible person, uh and had
an influence in my life that that continues is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Today, Max, I know you want to talk some football
alvro Thank you so much for that answer, and I
agree with you wholeheartedly. I would love to see twenty
one retired around baseball loves. So, Max, I know you
have some football questions.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Get it's it's it's it's tough to ask football questions
after after you get there. I'm gonna be honest because,
like you said, I mean, the impact of Roberto Clemente
is just and it really transcends all of sports. You know,
he was he was that larger than life figure. He
was an individual that did so much. And you know
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when I was when I was a young man in Pittsburgh, Uh,
that's when I became acquainted with Clemente Junior and uh,
Junior and I we're buddies for a little while, and
so you know, I just kind of lost touch over time,
and it was it was so great to see him,
you know, pop up, and you know, I hadn't talked
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to him in forever, so it was it was awesome.
And it is emotional when you think about just how tragic,
you know, the loss and how it happened. But we're
gonna we're gonna talk about football, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna get.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Myself squared up Alvaro.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I know, we had DK's first touchdown as a Steeler.
We had the Brett Favre tying touchdown toss by Aaron Rodgers,
so milestone special moments. Jalen Ramsey had his first interception
as a Steeler. Gek Kirbie gets to play. But what
are your thoughts initially after the game, the aftermath of
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the game, what are you know a couple of your
of your initial takeaways.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Well, has a sun come up after four pm on Sunday?
I think it's so dark. I mean, when you look
at everything you see, you think there's no hope.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
I have to think, to some extent, my hope and
my my expectation is that preseason and the lack of
reps as a unit in preseason is affecting all teams clearly,
but it's affecting the Steelers probably the most because of
all the changes in the in the in the in
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the lineup and in rolls as well. So I think
I have to think that there's a little bit of
that at play. Of all the things that concern you
about the Steelers, and there are many. When you think
about the battery, the Coons to Weightman to Boswell being
the solid rock of this team, that's great and I
love them and they deserve kudos. But if that's the
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best and shining part of your team, then the rest
of the team is in trouble. The one the one
area I'm going to summarize it in one just that
first down yard which allowed second War some in Chicago
was allowed more Pittsburghs allowing seven and a half yards
for first down.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Seven and a half.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
And when you see the troubles on turd and long,
it's the same trouble you have on first down, the same,
the same explanations for opponents converting Thurton longs, which, by
the way, is that a fifty clip long defined as
four yards or more fifty.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Over two games is exactly what.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Happens on first down when you're supposed to have a
good beat on the opponent, you've come off the bench,
you've had a chance.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
To regroup, and you show up and you're supposed to
do your job. It's again, there are many many reasons
why that happens. It's a group effort. Really, when it
suc seasoned. When it doesn't, it is a group effort,
but it is really disappointing.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
One other little stat that just points to the sloppiness
in terms of miss tackles. Last year the NFL, the
team that had the fewest tackles misstackles defensively were the
Pittsburgh Deelers four per game. This year, they lead the
NFL with fourteen miss tackles a game. So they've gotten
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from literally the best team to the worst team. It's
over two games at the start of the season.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
You know, you still have the kind of the after
effect of a little preseason cohesion, but the difference is
so stark that it's very It's concerning for sure.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Well, I mean that that that stat right there was
was a very that's that's a very glaring stat when
you talk about that literally going from first to worse
in that category, and I think, you know, I think
I think you kind of hit hit on a on
a great point.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
The lack of preseason cohesion.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
You had a lot of stuff, a lot of guys
missing ball that were quote unquote on the on the
I call it the arrival list, but we know it's
it's the veteran list of guys that you don't want
to get injured and don't want to expose them to.
And it's just it's one of those things that I
know it has been pointed out, you know, it's just
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that communication. You have a lot of new guys, the
injuries that are piled up so early in this season.
You know, you start the season, Derek Harmon is not available.
You go into the first quarter of the game or
your first game, you lose to Shawn Elliott, Juan Thornhill new.
Now you insert Chuck Clark, who's new. You lose JPJ
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in the first game, and now Brandon Eccles, who's new,
is replacing him. Then then you lose Millie Harrison, who
is supposed to be a key contributor and kind of
a swing outside guy. Nick Krbick doesn't play the first
preseason game, who already didn't play really that much in
the preseason at all.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And then you throw in.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Isaiah Laudermilt going out on top of Alex Heismith, who
was injured and kind of hampered in the preseason. Now
he's injured again and we'll see the extent of his injury.
And Mike Tomin will address that a little bit later today,
right after this broadcast with his with his weekly Tuesday
press conference. Alvert, I mean, you hate to say when
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when it when it rains, it pours, but like you said,
all of these things, and it's it's like, but you
still have guys out there, still trying to bust their butt,
but it's just it's tough with the.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Way the current construct is.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And I feel like the first three games of the season,
of the regular season really ends.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Up being your preseason all over again.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Is that a true assessment or do you think, no,
you just gotta just gotta just gotta buck up.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
We would see that on offense. We'd see that with
late Ben Roethlisberger. You would see that in his final
years where it took them a couple of games to
kind of get going and getting sync. So you expect
that out of that because it's a little bit trickier
because their plays have a.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Lot more moving parts, uh than a defense.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
You certainly expect the defense to be a little sharper
and actually to wear out as the season goes on.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
There's one more factor that you did not.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Include, which is something that's a coaching decision that I
can see why they do it, and I can see
the benefits of it, but I think maybe having an
effect as well in this early part of the season,
and that is that they're giving the veterans a few
more plays off. In other words, they're deepening the rotation,
which adds to the different combinations of players potentially communications issues,
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role issues, and whatnot. I think that it's wise to
do what they're doing, and the payoff will come at
the end of the season, which is when you really
need it, but maybe you start. You're paying a little
bit of the price right now in doing that, and
so you'll see players that are typically bench players play
a little bit more, few more snaps, and the starters
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play a few less snaps to keep them fresh. That's great,
and again it will pay off in the end. But
this perhaps it's hurting you right now. But to allow
four hundred yards per game, to allow two hundred yards
in the first half of a game, it's very on
Pittsburgh like. And to let the the boting team have
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its way in the first on first down, it's to
me the success of the team is to place the
opponent on third and long h often. So again you
won't win them all, but you'll put them in that
situation often. And it all starts in the early downs
and you cannot do that. You're skating. You're skating. You
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just can't stand on the ground and pick a spot
and defend it. And which, by the way, points out
to another point that I'm looking at at video without
being a coach, of course, I'm going to be the
first one to admit that. But at the point of attack,
in the middle of the defensive line, there there are
combination blocks, you know, double teams, double blocks on some
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of the guys in that line, and they're fighting the
blocks to get to the ball, when sometimes all you
have to do is not just stay where you are,
don't move, don't get blown away, stand your ground, literally
occupy a space that's gonna make the opposed the opposing
offenses play has to go around you as opposed to
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try to figure out a way to get to the
ball carrier or to get to the ball no standing.
And I think that may be a start too, in
that specific area where you just don't get displaced. I
know it's easy for me to say it's very hard
to do, but to me, it starts it starts there.
It's that that that that the middle of that line
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has to be stoutered just to stay in place.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Don't worry about getting to the ball carrier.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
It's gonna be very hard, almost impossible if your double
team just stay in place, occupy a space, make people
go around you instead of doing.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And I think, I think that that's that's kind of
what I've been talking about. Funny to hear you put
it into your words. Yeah, it's it's about not staying
blocked defensively, like not allowing this team to push and
and wait too many times in the interior they got
a surge on the double team, and then when they
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when they don't get that surge, a guy doesn't defend
his gap. He tries to jump out of his gap,
tries to run around it, to try and think that
I'm fast enough to move around in there. It's like, no,
you just created a moving wall, like the double team.
If you disengage one way or another, they create a wall.
Working up to the next level is technically what I
want as an offensive lineman. I want you to get
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out of your gap assignment, because the double team is
meant to move that gap. And when you vacate that gap,
you make it a lot easier on me because you're
trying to try a move. And this is where the
new A three four versus the three four that I
played against back in the day, those down linemen were
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two gappers. Right now, you know this crew does it
really two gap? They don't really know. You know, John
Mitchell was just the most tremendou this defensive line teacher
of the three four and what Dick Lebo wanted to do.
And when they decided that you weren't going to move
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him on the double team, you weren't going to move
them with Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Keemo von Olhoffen and
then even later a guy with with with the size
dimensions of a Brett Keesel, who would traditionally be a
four to three defensive end, learned how to play the
three four and learned how to make sure that guys
could not move him off the ball and that you
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weren't going to run into his gap.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Like that's where it's.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Different, because you know now it's more of a penetrating
three four like Greek havoc in a three four. And
this is that that's where the disadvantage is versus a
traditional four three like four to three, you could blow
guys up the field, right, you can. You could create havoc,
cut off, rush lane, force a cut back too soon,
and it works. But in a three four everything is
meant to be forced flow to the linebackers. So you're
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trying to create these two canals that the that the
that the running back has to funnel to, and that's
the whole kind of genius of the three four, and
that's why you put it in there. But the philosophies
have kind of melded together the three down versus the
four down, and that's where we're finding those issues. But
you're absolutely right, Alro, that's what That's what I've kind
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of said from it last week and it carried over
to this week.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
You have to defend your gap.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
You have to disengage from blocks, or you have to
split the double team and be there to turn the
guy away. And far too many times guys did get
blown off the ball. Guys did not disengage from blocks.
But it's something that they can do and I've seen
them do it because you just listed to stand the
majority of those guys that were that were responsible for
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that a year ago. Are still on this team today,
so they know what it is. But I think it's
a lack of conditioning, a lack of playing together.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
Kenneth Walker K nine, the running back for Seattle, had
himself a very very nice run eight point one yards
per carry, that's the second best in his career and
one hundred and five yards for the whole game. That's
the fifth best out of forty three games he's played
in the NFL. He just got himself close to a
career year. Typically only left by the way, I should say,
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which is another element that's going on.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
You know, it's a tribute to TJ.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Watt, not just that he's double team in triple team,
but the teams. It started kind of like with Dallas
last year. Teams have figure out, you know what, let's
just literally move the ball away from the right side
of our offense, which is where DJ is closest to,
and just move everything away to the other side and
make it hard for TJ to even come close to
the ball because anywhere is near.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
The ball our ball, it won't be ours for long.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
And so if you saw that Kenneth Walker third and
goal from the nineteen score, they went.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Left ye, going left as far left as they could.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Literally ran out of room out there almost by the way.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
On that play, Patrick puts out a hand signal behind
his left buttockx Juan reads it and then starts saying
something and Patrick Wilson turns his head to see what's
going on, and by the time he turned his head back.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
The play already had started.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Oh boy.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
And he made a move and he came real close,
but he couldn't quite tackle Canine. I'm not saying that
that that necessarily led to the other Cain. I mean
wiggled free, even if Wilson had been on him the
entire time. But you notice things in that play, and
you wonder if he had been just staring ahead of him,
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particularly at the running back, and he came so close
tackle he just took a slightly off angle and and
Walker did a nice job she kind of shifting away,
and jettis saying him, you wonder if that play could
have been avoided. And I mean if you would have
had a field goal and would have making my chances
on that field on the on the rooty side of
the of the field, right, that's right, brob, I call
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the close side of the field of Rooney Side because
the chief had his house in the back of that end.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Then zone in that that direction, and I call the
open one the Ohio end of the stadium. I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I love it, and I love having Alvarro Martin my
first time as a as a new guy in the
locker room to be with us. Alvaro, thank you so much,
much appreciated. We will see you in New England.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
Yes, yes, yes, indeed, good luck. I'm going to start
today so I can make it to the game on Sunday.
Fox Sports is not the easiest place to get in.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
No, no, it isn't safe travels my friend. We will
see up there.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Appreciate it, gentlemen, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
That's Alvaro Martin, the great play by play uh, the
Spanish broadcaster for the Pittsburgh stee This.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We have Bob Labrielle coming up in just a little bit.
Right now, we have to take a break.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
This is inside the locker room with King and Starts,
presented by your neighborhood Ford Store here on the Steelers
Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
This is in the locker room with King and Starks
on Steelers Nation Radio, presented by your neighborhood Forward store.
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Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we thank you for being with us on this
Tuesday as we sort of put a rap on this loss,
the thirty one seventeen defeat to Seattle. We get to
hump Day tomorrow and begin to look forward to a
new England team that improved to one and one by
winning in Miami for the first time since twenty nineteen.
So they're going to be heading back to Foxborough with
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a lot of vim and vigor as they get ready
to host the Steelers on Sunday afternoon at one pm.
I want to thank Alvalo Martin, the great play by
play guy, the Spanish broadcaster for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Being on with us.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Bob Labriola is coming up next hour as well. In fact,
in just a few minutes, so Labs will be with us.
We'll also continue our look around the NFL. We started
that and we will continue that two weeks into the
season to kind of get a bird's eye view of
the landscape in the NFL. All that and more coming
up next inside the locker Room with King and Starks,
presented by our neighborhood Ford store here on the Steelers
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