October 7, 2025 • 44 mins
Max and Rob put a bow on week 5, and chat with Steelers' Spanish broadcaster Alvaro Martin about the state of the team and the experience in Ireland a few weekends ago.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we thank you for being with us today alongside
Max Starks. I'm Rob King Justin Miller at the controls
in our iHeart studio as we bring you this edition
to the locker room on a Tuesday. Following another crazy
game last night in the NFL, I was over three
with my special delivery Jones comparisons. I thought that, you know,
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Philadelphia would be given a game, but they would win.
I thought Buffalo would be given a game, but they
would win. I thought the Chiefs would be given a game,
but they would win. All three of those teams lost, Max,
including last night of Monday Night football in a crazy game.
And I have no clue what to make of the
NFL this season.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, this is exactly what you want, Rob, Parity and
even for Buffalo, I mean, Buffalo is still four and one,
still largely in control, and the top team you know
in the AFC still despite losing to the Patriots. I
mean that Patriots team was not an easy out even
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for us. You know, it took five turnovers and five
sacks rob to beat them by seven, right, so you know,
and Buffalo did not get that on them and they
lost by three.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So you know, you kind of think of it.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's what you want to see, like the teams that
have been bad all of a sudden are playing good,
consistent football. Jacksonville last night, the much maligned Trevor Lawren right,
like we've said a million different things negatively about him
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since his career, so touted number one overall pick?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Is he a bust?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Or?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Can you trust him?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And that team rallied around each other. That was one
of the biggest plays at the end of the game,
where you know, you get a fumble, pick it up
and you and you rumble, bumble and stumble into the
end zone for the victory. That guts into desire and
on the other side the Kansas City chiefs it and
tell me if I'm right or wrong, Rob, they look
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tired as a team.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I think that. I think that's a really good
way of putting it. I think that's a really good
way of putting it. They don't seem like the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, No, And I think would you've gone to what
seven straight AFC Championship games every year, Your your season
does not end till the end of January, year in
and year out, and you've represented the AFC and five
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Super Bowls five and the last six Super Bowls, right,
and just the grind of a shortened off season.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Year on year on year on year.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's it's like dog hears, you know, when you would
when you continually do that. And even for us, like
the year after we won Super Bowls, like we didn't
make the playoffs the following year, rob because it is
such a long season and your body takes more time,
and you're a more veteran team. This isn't a young
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squad that's out there. They were young when they started
this this this dynasty or this track.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But they're all old now.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They're all you know, veterans that are in their prime
or a little bit over the hill prime and to
try and kick it up, you know, every week. And
for the Chiefs, they're always on prime time. Last year
they played they played literally every day of the week
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that you could do except Tuesday's right, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, that's so wild to think.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And Wednesday, Saturday, Friday, Thursday, Monday, I mean every day
except Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Every day except too. And the Steelers were five out
of seven days out of the week. We didn't play Tuesday,
we didn't play.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
On Friday, but we played every other day of the week.
So that is that's honestly what I kind of saw
last night. You saw an old veteran team that just
looked like they couldn't get up for this game. They
were tired, they were sluggish. It wasn't the explosives. And
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once again, and this is also a team that, when
you think about it, they've got to figure out their
run game. Rob Patrick Mahomes cannot be your leading rusher
all season.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Granted he saves and escapes a lot with his legs,
but he should not be your leading rusher like that.
He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not Josh Allen, he's not
he's not any of those type of guys. He's Pat Mahomes.
And so the arm talent, the escapability is what you
want to see. And the Jacksonville defense, I mean, I
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know we didn't really give him that much credit for
what we saw in the preseason that that that defense
was flying around. They were they were making life miserable
for the Chiefs too. So it was just one of
those things. You saw it, and they tried to muster
the energy at the end, but Jacksonville roared at the
end of it. Trevor Lawrence had had had had had
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his had had a breakout moment in the game, seals
the victory. And we are talking about a two and
three Kansas City Chiefs crazy as.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Crazy today, you know so. And I also wonder if
you know the things you're talking about. They don't have
a number one receiver. You know, Kelsey's getting a little
longer in the tooth. They don't have a running game.
The defense is still good, but maybe not quite as
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dominant as they were a couple of years ago. I
don't know if that leads up to and plays a
part along with the fatigue of you just getting worked
by Philadelphia. I remember, they just got destroyed in the
Super Bowl last year, and it's it's it was hard
to envision a Chiefs team getting stomped like that. The
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Chiefs have done the stomping the Chiefs have always been
able to pull the rabbit out of the hat. The
Chiefs have been the team that that you just can't
find a way to beat. And I wonder if if
that Super Bowl was either a manifestation of what's going
on or another Aha moment for other teams that they
could look at them and say, hey, man, this team
can be beaten. There is no mistique anymore. Whatever mystique
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they had, they they had washed away in the Super Bowl.
I don't know if that's a factor, Max or if
it's just the personnel in the field, But I don't know.
Maybe teams don't fear that the Chiefs like they used
to either.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I think that now people are starting to see
the glow has washed off and now they're, like you said,
every week. I believe it builds the confidence of other
teams that are about to face them. And when you
think about where they were going into Week three, there's
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a Chiefs team that from the Super Bowl up until
Week three lost three consecutive games.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
When's the last time you've ever heard about the Chiefs
doing that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right, not in the Patrick Mahomes era, right, And I
think that's what gave a lot of teams the steam
to say, oh, we can just go at these dudes
and we can play fearlessly because they don't have answers
on offense.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They don't have as dominant of a.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Defense as they did a year ago or the last
five years, and you know, they're struggling to find their
identity as a team. They know who they know who
Pat Mahomes is, they know who Travis Kelsey is. But
Travis is also old. Let's just come to the reality
of it, right, He's no spring chicken. He's double digit years.
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And to feature Travis Kelcey at this point in his
career is great and all, but the reality is he
does not start fast. He has to warm up into
the season and he's nowhere near that. But that's your
number one receiver you're depending on right now. Yep, yep.
So so yeah, so I mean, so it's well and
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Isaiah Pacheco, where.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Is he at?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I guess coming off that injury that he doesn't. I
thought he looked pretty good last night. One thing, by
the way, we have Alvalo Martin coming up at ten twenty.
We have Bob Labriola joining us at eleven o'clock in
the locker room today. One of the things that really,
you know, you forget this about Mahomes sometimes, or at
least I do. Patrick Mahomes is a big man, and
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Trevor Lawrence is a big man. And those guys they
I mean, okay, they slid on occasion, but they would
also lower the shoulder, split defenders, try to pick up
the extra yard. I was really impressed. You know, maybe
Lawrence was looking to run, perhaps a little too much,
maybe they wanted to do that. Regardless, he can tuck
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it and go. Now, I mean both those guys. I
was impressed by the physical nature of both of their
running last night. Now, you gotta be careful because there's
physical nature, and then there's the fact that some of
those guys you're being physical with the are a lot
bigger than you are, and you risk, you run the
risk of getting injured. But I was impressed by both
those guys running last night.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It was definitely good to see the activity level. And
I mean we kind of we kind of knew who
Etn was, right, I mean, the combo of et and.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And by the way, he looks like a different guy.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He looks like a different guy.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I mean it's like he found his stride and he's
he's running fully with it. And I think that's what
you know, we saw at Clemson and that was the
guy that was so dominant when they had those national
championship runs. And so for him to kind of find
this renewed sense of running and confidence running, it's it's been.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
It's been great. And that offensive line for Jacksonville looks
a lot better.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They they they led the way and I thought they
had a solid game last night.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
So you're seeing a team that's been amassing.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
All these pieces, right, They've had high draft picks, and
now it's starting to actually pay off and pay dividends.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
For him, right, And I mean it's still that's what
has to happen, because that doesn't always happen. You know,
we see teams have plenty of high draft picks and
nothing ever comes of it. But something's coming of it.
It looks like in Jacksonville. You know, they there were
a lot of teams that I thought were extremely interesting
heading into this season. I thought the Bears were. I
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don't know if they've really been all that interesting. We'd
certainly talked about Jacksonville being one of those teams that
could take a leap forward with a new coach, whose
quarterback friendly, the commitment to Trevor Lawrence, the you know,
the drafting of Travis Hunter giving him another weapon, clearly
just saying hey, this, you're the guy, and we've got
a great offensive mind and let's go, much like I
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think they're trying to do up in Chicago and New England.
New England. But man, if New England continues this, they're arriving.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I thought they could you know, bounce themselves up to
seven wins or so and we still let's see, they've
got three, you know, and be a tough out and
be a very boll coached, you know team that even
if they lose, it's twenty three seventeen and they're and
you're you know, you're fighting to the end. But I
don't know, Man, We're gonna We're gonna take a look
at the power ratings later, Max, because it's the closest
thing we have, the rankings in the NFL. And it's uh,
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it's crazy, man, I mean, it's it's been a it's
been a crazy season.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, it's absolutely been and I know, I know we're
short on time. But it's it's you're seeing You're seeing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A proper, a proper NFL with full of parody, and
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, So we're gonna take a break now because we
have the great Alvao Martin. He's joining us. After the break,
we're gonna be talking Toeer this football with him. Bob
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
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Speaker 5 (13:52):
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Speaker 4 (14:06):
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Phenomenal call by Alvaro Martin who joins us now. Colemoy
STAMMI migo, great call man. Always good to have you on.
And uh it's it's I love hearing those calls of
yours man. Beautiful stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That was a Guinness free call, I should add it
was what a Guinness free call?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, get very nice, very nice? That was the rest
of your trip? Was the rest of your trip? Guines
us free?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yes, it was okay, Wise, I'm trying to keep US
slim figure and uh, I don't have any Irish relatives
that I know of, Okay, so I didn't have to celebrate.
But it was a wonderful experience. As you know, the
excitement and the voice had a lot to do with
the excitement of the event. The fact that the Steelers
won dramatic at the end, spectacularly along the way just contributed.
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When you witness history, when you're part of it, it's special.
And I was talking to some people, you know about
the Dublin experience, and I said, you know, the NFL
can go to any city they want, but how many
cities can you go where they speak your local language
meaning English, where the reception of Americans is almost a given,
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lots of tourism between the US and Ireland in both directions,
and where it's kind of safe to walk around the streets,
and it's just a wonderful little place. It sets the bar.
I mean, in the future, you can go to a
place I'm not gonna name, cities where you can't walk
out the door and the team tells you don't leave
the hotel and you have sitting like Dublin, which is
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as much as your time allows enjoy it. It was
a really really special experience. I don't know, I haven't
been to the German Games or the London games, but
this one was special.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
No, it absolutely was Alvaro, and I think that's why
Roger Goodell took such special interest in being there, attending
and being around the city in various moments.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I talked to him at the Steelers welcome reception at
Trinity College the night before the game. He talked about
his time when he got here about a day or
two before that, and like just touring some sites.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And he couldn't believe.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The amount of NFL fans from the States. And I
know Missy talked about this in the broadcast, but he
was just so surprised at the reception of not only
American football in a brand new market, but the American
response to football in a new market. And the fact
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that you had a thirty percent ask from people traveling
to watch this from the US and the normal split
is usually ninety ten local to travelers, and how you
had a three hundred percent increase in that just in
this one game, and people came over.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Days in advance.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So it was it was absolutely phenomenal to see on
display to get the feel of being an acrosure, right, Alvaro,
even though we knew we weren't an acrossure, like when
we sat in our booth, or I should say our
section in the stadium, because there was there was no
there was no coverage of a booth except for the
awning on the top of the stadium. We were in
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the environment with the fans. I mean, you guys were
right next to the fans, and I was we were
just one section removed from that, and aisleway kind of
separated us right next to each other during the entire
game broadcast, and it was.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Just something special. It was it was seeing.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All of that and just kind of describe what you
visually saw environment wise outside of that beautiful call, which
I could say that I knew four words that you
said there, Alvaro.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I deciphered them. Quarenta which means forty, then ocenta which
meant eighty right for the total yards of the play,
and then DK metcalf and touchdown right.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
And then at the end I ended with Patty Power,
which is a lot of oppression and a local brand,
you know, as in Patrick Patti Power. Yeah, he got
himself some patty power to motor, that that that run,
that that catch and run. You know, I'll tell you
my experience. It's funny. The people that sponsor these games
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in a local level in Madrid, London, Germany would actually
rather not have locals attend. They would love to fill
up their stadium with visitors who pay a lot of
money and spend money in their you know, jurisdictions in
their cities. So there's a conflict, you know, if you're
the Irish Republic or the city of Dublin, great deviasteers,
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but I hope no, none of the local show up.
And everybody shows who shows up pays their way into
Ireland and spends money in our hotels and takes our
cabs and eats our food and so on and so forth.
So this problem this game have probably the lowest local
content in terms of fans. Now that given that the
place is so huge, with seventy five thousand, then that
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probably meant about twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty fourth,
maybe twenty five thousand people who are local. The thing
that's interesting to me and I saw it in Mexico
in two thousand and five, where already football is being played,
and there was already a fan base established. The fact
that you show up means that it's not something you
see on the telly. As they say over there, it's
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not something you see on the television anymore. It's real.
And the fact that I saw on Saturday Broerck, Jones
and Cam Hayward walk the city of Dublin, walk the streets,
and obviously the Steelers fans flocked, but even some Irish
people showed up. The fact that the person that checked
me out at the hotel twenty five minutes away from
the city of Dublin, young lady told me that she
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had watched the Steelers, but now she gets the Steelers.
She understands how they play, what they stand for, what
the brand is about. And she said to me before
I left, you know, I wasn't I knew about the Steelers,
and they were uppermost in my mind when I think
of the NFL. But now I'm a Steelers fan. See,
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that is what history is about. That's actually watching history
unfold in a nanosecond is to see one person turnover.
It's like Christian's in Romeo. You're on our side now,
and that's just a wonderful thing. To see, and there
were many iris would say, oh, who are those people there?
Why where is there such a long line, and somebody
would say, it's the NFL Steelers are coming. They're playing.
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And that is exactly what Watcher Goodell wants. That is
exactly what the people that buy the rights to the
global market want. In this case, Pittsburgh want now five
or sixteens I think, you know, buying into the rights
of it to be in Ireland. And that's what the
fans want too. And if you heard the announcement in
Dublin as well, they want to go from seven to
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sixteen games a year, which is tremendous. I don't know
how the NFL does it, but it's just wonderful to
see that. Also, I could not I didn't see mister
Rooney much. I couldn't. Every time I saw him that
week or that weekend, there was a smile from eree.
He just couldn't wipe off. Everything about the week was
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right and wonderful team. He was like not even stepping
on the ground, he was walking on air. And the
fact that the players took the game very seriously and
decided to play their best game of the season and
make sure they got the win, just put the cherry
on top. Just a wonderful experience. Too bad for Minnesota.
They played, they played to win. They have won that game, right,
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but you know, this was going to be Pitchsburgh weekend
and it didn't spoil it. And then on the way back,
and even on that Sunday where rain was expected, I know,
you know that route to see the sun breakout typically
in the end of the first half, second half, hit
the field, and then to see the sun set as
you walk downtown because everybody had to walk downtown from
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brook Park. Ires Street was blocked and Irish fans and
American fans, they were all just literally just gumming up
the roads. And that was an experience that was fun.
That was you don't see that too often. Yeah, I enjoyed.
I enjoyed walking across the bridge.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I enjoyed walking back of the crowd. It was yeah,
it was it was very you know, one more thing
about football and international football, Alva, and then we can
get back to the Steelers a little bit. But you know,
discussing with someone flag football the other day and I
I I think it is an entree for you know,
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and it's something that the NFL is really stressed. I
don't know how much they played internationally. I know they
were playing it in Ireland and have been playing it
in Ireland. Dan Rooney, you know, the late Dan Rooney,
the ambassador to Ireland, brought flag football there and played
it in the backyard of the ambassador's residence. And I
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just wonder if it's an entree that, if it's a
long play entree that okay, after five or ten or
fifteen years of that gaining some popularity because it's fun. Listen,
you know, if you played organized football or not, flag
football is a fun sport to play. I just wonder
if that's maybe a long term entree for other fans
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who who are getting a taste to the NFL to
sort of get a feel for at least a little
bit of what the game of football was like.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Well, Rob, it serves two purposes to me. When you
were growing up, because you and I are about the
same age, we would play on the street and would
say that car is the end zone. That car, there's
the end zone, right, and you use a tennis ball
typically if you didn't have a football and you just
played American football is a very tough sport to export
because of all the equipment and the infrastructure needed to
play the game, not even to mention the fact that
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you need all the medical paraphernalia around the game in
case people get hurt, because people do get hurt. It's
a contact sport. So it's a very hard sport to
export just because of its cost. It's really very very difficult,
and so it's very difficult to create a culture if
you can't play contact football. Now I have a different
strategy in the NFL is slightly different, but I do
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believe that flag is the way for you to get
to know the game, get to know and understand some
of the beauty of the game without the hurt. And
most importantly, and this has been my experience, you activate
half the population world i e. Women and women take
flag football very very very seriously, very seriously. It's not
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just a game they like or the game they the
parents kind of brought them up in. It's an outlet,
it's a it's a competitive outlet. And if you can
make fifty percent of the population turn to football in
this sort of form, then getting them into the stadium
to watch the game and watch the game on television
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or their favorite scream. It's just a whole lot easier.
So it is a tremendous shortcut. And again, do not
underestimate how women perceive flag football. That's their super Bowl,
that's their game. If the men want to play, that's
fine and enjoy it. But for women it's their football.
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And if we can build that up and that becomes
a real powerhouse, so that is exportable. The Steers just
donated a thousand kids in Ireland over the week, a
thousand flag football kids. I'm sure or Max hand it
out some of them. So when you can do that,
you know, these are points of contact. I spoke to
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Commissioner Mark Tatum, the Deputy commission of the NBA, and
I asked them, how do you know when you turn
someone into a fan? He said there were four touchstones.
Number one, do you play? Number two do you watch?
Number three? Have you bought any merchandise related to the league?
And number four have you been to a game? Which
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is the hardest thing or the game comes to you
to your country. Now that fourth one is the hardest
one internationally, but he says, if we have three out
of those four, we've got that person and they can
actually identify digitally who that person is or in the world.
The NFL probably has an equivalent, and so getting them
to play flag football is probably a fifth category. It's
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that important to turn people into football fans, and then
you get more people who want to play, more people
want example in the league, more people than that, then
it's you justified. You're buying more equipment, maybe setting up
high school programs, which I think it should be a
priority for the NFL. I would go after the most
wealthy schools in a country. I'm I'm I'm invading and
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say you've got the resources, will help you set up
We'll find even find coaching will help you set up
a league. The moment football's played locally and watched locally,
then the culture takes roots. Then it's a whole You've
you've you've done all the hard work. It's just a
matter of time.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, and you collect on the dividends of that. And
I think Alvaro two.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Things specific, especially to what you said Monterey this summer,
right when we were down there for that flag football tournament,
sold out in three and a half hours, and you
saw all the different teams from all over Mexico showing
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up in Monterey to compete in that Steelers flag football tournament.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That was a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And like you said, it goes back to do you play,
And like you said, the girls teams were more ferocious
than than than the boys teams, and then they took they
took special exception to the pride of playing that game.
So I completely agree with you on those touch points.
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And now you activate the other half of the population
something that felt like the boys club.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh this is a man's game. No, no, no, no, no.
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Holly Robinson Pete wrote a famous wrote her famous book
you know, get your own damn beer. I'm Watching the
Football Game, A Woman's Guide to Football that she wrote,
you know, about two decades ago. I actually gave that
to my wife when we were dating to get her
caught up because I could explain with sugar packets and
everything while we're on a date. But I was like,
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but I don't know how you learn, so if I
give you this book. She read that book cover to
cover and her knowledge of the game went up exponentially
to where people were like, hey, man, can we sit
with Tiff during the game because she really explains it
really well and It came from that book and I
just I look at that and I see that. But
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even more so to get back directly to Ireland. This
is the NFL's long term plan. So there was a
thousand kits that were that were donated during the week
we were there. But the NFL and actually the Steelers
broke her this deal to make the NFL do it.
Every school in the entire country will be delivered by
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I think the end of twenty twenty seven. Every school
will have flag football kits to have to create teams
and to create a competitive league in Ireland. That was
the NFL's goal when you talk about global marketing and
bringing the brand outs. What they said, We're going to
every school in Ireland and we are donating and that
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was spearheaded by mister Rooney to get flag football kits
so that every school would would be able to service
a team and be able to create a league in
Ireland for school age kids at the grassroots level. Right,
we always talk about how do you influence how do
you affect the NFL Play sixty program, Right, that's in
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the US, that's a grassroots child, primary school based startup.
For your introduction into the NFL now worldwide. It's now
flag football introduction into the NFL and creating these clinics, championships,
tournaments and all of the kind I mean the one
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we did in Belfast, you know where we went and
saw that was actually that was actually Dan Rooney Juniors.
That was his project that he wanted to have. He
wanted to do a tournament up there, and that's when
Ike and Jerome came up for the flag football clinic
up there and it was just as beautiful to see.
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And like you said, that's the way you can capture
the hearts and the minds for a sport that has
so many barriers to entry.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
How do you make.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It as small as possible? Well, all you need is
a belt and the flag in the football, right, and
then all the other stuff comes. If you want gloves,
if you want the special cleats, you want the full
swag of the outfit.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But all you need is a belt with two.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Flags on it and a football and now you can
say that you can play football. It's tremendous how they've
micropackaged and how they've now created and now it's an
Olympic sport too, so now you've got international.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Visibility of the success of the sport. It's only going
to grow from here.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You know, you mentioned Dan Rooney, Art Rooney Sun. He's
been involved in many projects. He's learning the ropes, particularly internationally.
It's his portfolio. And as much as our Rooney, his
father was as I said, grinning ear ear the entire time,
Dan Rooney deserves kudos. You know, this tript Island was
his project, beginning to end, and it was a roaring success.
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Not just because Pittsburgh won the game. That's the most
important thing. Obviously he couldn't control that, but every other element, belly,
Everybody walked away not only is happy, smile, smiling, satisfied.
Everybody walked away thinking this was good. This was really good.
They did it well, and Dan had spent months getting
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this ready, and you know, you it's like the sort
of the backup defensive lineman had a great game. Nobody
really noticed this, but hey, everybody else knows Dan did
a great job. He deserves kudos as well.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, fantastic stuff. And just quickly alvaroke that with the
team coming out of the buy at three and one,
your feeling about where the Dealers sit right now four
games into the season.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, my advice to everybody is, don't scoreboard chase, don't
check the standings. I have one name for you, Dorian
Thompson Robinson. Week twelve, twenty twenty four. Ah, easy win
in Cleveland. We lost twenty four to nineteen. Things happen
in the NFL. Teams get up for you. There are
though about six games Green Bay, Indiana Chargers, Buffalo, Detroit,
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Baltimore at the end of the season, when they get
Lamar back and everybody sort of back in their swinging,
that are going to really define the quality of this team.
And the only question I have is the jumbo package
worked wonderfully, get you the yards, puts you in third
and shorts give you more variety. But in the end,
it is a bit of a clutch. I mean a crutch.
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It's a bit of a it's a mask. It masks
the fact that the offensive line, the five guys by themselves,
can't get that result. And at some point you want
to see growth because the members of that line, four
out of them are still young and developing. So that's
that's a concern on you self, scout. You know, to
what extent if the jumbo package works, great, but to
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what extent you say, no, no, no, no, we need to
kind of not use to the package because when we
do that, we're taking a highly paid tight end out
of the out of the lineup or a receiver out
of the lineup. And then on defense, we've seen already
in the first four games that speed is a problem
in the secondary that really truly speedy guys like Jackson
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Smith and Jake Garrett Wilson, Tory Horden give you trouble.
And if they give you trouble, you're gonna have to
play to the zones. And if you play to these
zones against what you'd rather do this year, which play
a little bit more man, either your your pass rush
gets there quickly or you got to play to the zones.
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And so those are I think concerns for the team
right now, but they're showing tremendous resilience. Aaron has adjusted
to the reality of the of saintin Lanta, and you
got rid of the ball in two points one six seconds,
which is ridiculous, but againn't done that since two thousand
and six in a game. But that may be the solution.
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That's a year that's not the Aaron Rodgers that everybody
likes the MVP Aaron Rodgers, but it's going to get
you the wings and it's going to keep them up right,
and that's the important thing this year. So there's a
lot to work on. But they're playing with great tenacity.
They're playing, you know, whether they make mistakes or not,
they're playing with great effort and that's what you want
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to see. Hopefully they'll be development. I can't tell, and
I can't promise that, but they're playing with tenacity. The
greatest example was was Croke Park, but I think they
were inspired by that. So they've got the chance. Don't
worry about how the other teams are phasing it, who's out,
and how bad they're doing. I forget that You've got
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Cleveland Cincinnati in Cincinnati in a short week. Okay, don't
worry about you know, Detroit, don't worry about the Chargers,
don't worry about Buffalo. Just get through Cleveland Cincinnati the
way you should and get better at the areas that
I just mentioned. And to me, that's the challenge. Forget
about everything else. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, it
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doesn't matter where Baldemor is right now. It does not matter.
Just beat Cleveland and then beat Cincinnatio a short week
and then we talk. Then we can talk.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That sounds wonderful, Alvaro. We will continue to talk with you,
my friend. It's always a pleasure. Thank you so much
for coming on in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Thank you so much. Guys, enjoy the week, See you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You got yep, we will see you on Sunday. Thanks,
my friend. We will continue with a really kind of
a fascinating statistic about something that's happened in the NFL
that has rarely happened before, which we will get to
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Speaker 1 (37:05):
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right, thanks to Albaro Martin for joining us. Thanks
to you for joining us as well. In the locker
room so Max I before the break, I said, there
was a statistic that I found fascinating, something that's rarely
happened in the NFL and what the ramifications could be
if history is correct. So as we wrap up Week
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five last night with the Monday Night Football, there are
no undefeated teams left in the NFL. Buffalo and Philadelphia
both were defeated. This is just the fourth time in
the Super Bowl era, the fourth time that there are
zero undefeated teams entering Week six, just the fourth time.
The last time was twenty fourteen. It was the Cardinals
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and Bengals, they both lost twenty ten the Chiefs of
the final unbeaten team they lost in Week five. In
nineteen seventy, nobody got out of Week four. The Lions, Rams,
and Broncos were all three to zero and they all lost.
And so this is the fourth time that's happened now. Arizona, Cincinnati,
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Kansas City, Detroit. Four of the six teams that we
just mentioned that were the final unbeatens not deep in
the season, not a team with a long stretch of dominance,
but teams that were good early and lost early. Eventually,
they all lost in the first round of the playoffs,
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and two of those teams didn't even make the playoffs
Team seventy Rams and Broncos. Now they were just three
and oh so I don't know what to make of that.
If history repeats itself, then the teams like Buffalo and
Philadelphia that I think we're widely considered the top two
teams in the NFL will be bounced by the end
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of the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, if that's the case, parody is still alive, and well,
it's okay with me, MANFL.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm good with that. We were never on that list.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that happening.
I think that's that's kind of wild. I think probably
in those seasons, you know, they're the the old saying
is there are there are there are lies, there are
damn lies. And then their statistics, right, you know, so
you could you could kind of make statistics stay what
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you want. But you know, and I think that's one
of the beauties of statistics. What does it mean? Does
it what you think it means? I think that means
that those were those are seasons of exceptional parody in
the NFL. And I also think it means that the
teams that start fast in a league that's got a
lot of parody aren't necessarily the teams that finish fast,
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which is one of the things that we've talked about
a lot on this program. Get the wins early. Alvaro
just said it as well, get the wins early, stack
them up. It doesn't matter how And you know, with
each step of the journey, try if you can to
get a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
And that's really what it is, because this this is
a marathon. An NFL season is a marathon. It's not
a sprint. It's not, as it is at best, a
quick jog or at least a quick job. And you
just want to make sure that you're putting a step
in front of the competition, meaning you want to gain
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as much of a cushion as you want so at
the end and you're not having to strain to get
to the finish line. And September, just like the start
of a race, is your freshest, the freshest you'll be
all year from a competitive standpoint, and obviously the best
you'll ever feel is the first day you show up
training camp. But the best you'll feel as a team
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is going to be at the beginning of September, right
after Labor Day. When you start that seat, that's the
healthiest you're going to be. And then everything else is
how slow do you allow the regression to be. And
the slower you allow your regression to be versus the
competition is what allows you to keep pace the entire season.
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And that's the toughest thing to do. And the Steelers
have already have already been dealt those blows, right, you know,
they've dealt with massive amount of injuries to one position.
Groof again, right at the secondary level.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
We saw Joey Porter go out. We saw Deshaun.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Elliott go out week one, boom, right out the gate,
done so, and we didn't have him for a couple
of weeks and Sean came back. Hopefully we're getting Joey
back this week. And then you have a Jayalen Ramsey
this injured now, so you hope you can get.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Him, you know, up to pace and up to speed.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Brandon eccles had a little injury scare at the end
of the game two a week and a half ago.
So you've seen multiple tests of the depth of this
team early on, and luckily majority of those things have
not been serious injuries that have sidelined guys for the
rest of the season, like a lot of other teams.
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But everybody's gonna go through that some form of fashion.
You're gonna have to go through that gutted out phase.
You just you just have to make it happen. It's like, listen,
I really want, you know, I really want a good
beef stew. But guess what all I got is some
frozen mixed veggies. I got some brown gravy mix, and
(43:05):
I've got hungry man meal. I've got the Salisbury steaks.
I still gotta make it right. You still got to
make it with whatever you want. It's it's not the
prime cut of meat that you want in there. I
don't have a slow cooker. I just got a pot.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
You got to make it work and figure it out
and still get the meal out. That's what the team
has to do. The team has to figure those things out.
And the depth is what allows you to slow that regression.
And so the Steelers that's been tested. But it's worked
out thus far and you've gained ground in the competition.
You still got to make it to the finish line, right,
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Just because you have a lead doesn't mean you're going
to win, but you want to separate as much as
you can while they're down, pick up the pace a
little bit, just so you could further that gap so
that you're not straining at the end of the year
and you can coast into it and be in a
good position where you ultimately get to Goal Number one
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is I need to make it to the playoffs. I
need that Willie Wanka NFL Golden Ticket for Entryway one
of fourteen to get on to stay on our pursuit
and stay on our track of trying to get to
a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And we're gonna underline an underscore what Max was just
talking about even more with Bob Labriola on the other
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we thank you for being with us today alongside
Max Starks. I'm Rob King Justin Miller at the controls
in our iHeart studio as we bring you this edition
to the locker room on a Tuesday. Following another crazy
game last night in the NFL, I was over three
with my special delivery Jones comparisons. I thought that, you know,
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Philadelphia would be given a game, but they would win.
I thought Buffalo would be given a game, but they
would win. I thought the Chiefs would be given a game,
but they would win. All three of those teams lost, Max,
including last night of Monday Night football in a crazy game.
And I have no clue what to make of the
NFL this season.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, this is exactly what you want, Rob, Parity and
even for Buffalo, I mean, Buffalo is still four and one,
still largely in control, and the top team you know
in the AFC still despite losing to the Patriots. I
mean that Patriots team was not an easy out even
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for us. You know, it took five turnovers and five
sacks rob to beat them by seven, right, so you know,
and Buffalo did not get that on them and they
lost by three.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So you know, you kind of think of it.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's what you want to see, like the teams that
have been bad all of a sudden are playing good,
consistent football. Jacksonville last night, the much maligned Trevor Lawren right,
like we've said a million different things negatively about him
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since his career, so touted number one overall pick?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Is he a bust?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Or?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Can you trust him?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And that team rallied around each other. That was one
of the biggest plays at the end of the game,
where you know, you get a fumble, pick it up
and you and you rumble, bumble and stumble into the
end zone for the victory. That guts into desire and
on the other side the Kansas City chiefs it and
tell me if I'm right or wrong, Rob, they look
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tired as a team.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I think that. I think that's a really good
way of putting it. I think that's a really good
way of putting it. They don't seem like the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, No, And I think would you've gone to what
seven straight AFC Championship games every year, Your your season
does not end till the end of January, year in
and year out, and you've represented the AFC and five
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Super Bowls five and the last six Super Bowls, right,
and just the grind of a shortened off season.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Year on year on year on year.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's it's like dog hears, you know, when you would
when you continually do that. And even for us, like
the year after we won Super Bowls, like we didn't
make the playoffs the following year, rob because it is
such a long season and your body takes more time,
and you're a more veteran team. This isn't a young
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squad that's out there. They were young when they started
this this this dynasty or this track.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But they're all old now.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They're all you know, veterans that are in their prime
or a little bit over the hill prime and to
try and kick it up, you know, every week. And
for the Chiefs, they're always on prime time. Last year
they played they played literally every day of the week
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that you could do except Tuesday's right, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, that's so wild to think.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And Wednesday, Saturday, Friday, Thursday, Monday, I mean every day
except Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Every day except too. And the Steelers were five out
of seven days out of the week. We didn't play Tuesday,
we didn't play.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
On Friday, but we played every other day of the week.
So that is that's honestly what I kind of saw
last night. You saw an old veteran team that just
looked like they couldn't get up for this game. They
were tired, they were sluggish. It wasn't the explosives. And
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once again, and this is also a team that, when
you think about it, they've got to figure out their
run game. Rob Patrick Mahomes cannot be your leading rusher
all season.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Granted he saves and escapes a lot with his legs,
but he should not be your leading rusher like that.
He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not Josh Allen, he's not
he's not any of those type of guys. He's Pat Mahomes.
And so the arm talent, the escapability is what you
want to see. And the Jacksonville defense, I mean, I
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know we didn't really give him that much credit for
what we saw in the preseason that that that defense
was flying around. They were they were making life miserable
for the Chiefs too. So it was just one of
those things. You saw it, and they tried to muster
the energy at the end, but Jacksonville roared at the
end of it. Trevor Lawrence had had had had had
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his had had a breakout moment in the game, seals
the victory. And we are talking about a two and
three Kansas City Chiefs crazy as.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Crazy today, you know so. And I also wonder if
you know the things you're talking about. They don't have
a number one receiver. You know, Kelsey's getting a little
longer in the tooth. They don't have a running game.
The defense is still good, but maybe not quite as
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dominant as they were a couple of years ago. I
don't know if that leads up to and plays a
part along with the fatigue of you just getting worked
by Philadelphia. I remember, they just got destroyed in the
Super Bowl last year, and it's it's it was hard
to envision a Chiefs team getting stomped like that. The
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Chiefs have done the stomping the Chiefs have always been
able to pull the rabbit out of the hat. The
Chiefs have been the team that that you just can't
find a way to beat. And I wonder if if
that Super Bowl was either a manifestation of what's going
on or another Aha moment for other teams that they
could look at them and say, hey, man, this team
can be beaten. There is no mistique anymore. Whatever mystique
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they had, they they had washed away in the Super Bowl.
I don't know if that's a factor, Max or if
it's just the personnel in the field, But I don't know.
Maybe teams don't fear that the Chiefs like they used
to either.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, I think that now people are starting to see
the glow has washed off and now they're, like you said,
every week. I believe it builds the confidence of other
teams that are about to face them. And when you
think about where they were going into Week three, there's
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a Chiefs team that from the Super Bowl up until
Week three lost three consecutive games.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
When's the last time you've ever heard about the Chiefs
doing that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right, not in the Patrick Mahomes era, right, And I
think that's what gave a lot of teams the steam
to say, oh, we can just go at these dudes
and we can play fearlessly because they don't have answers
on offense.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They don't have as dominant of a.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Defense as they did a year ago or the last
five years, and you know, they're struggling to find their
identity as a team. They know who they know who
Pat Mahomes is, they know who Travis Kelsey is. But
Travis is also old. Let's just come to the reality
of it, right, He's no spring chicken. He's double digit years.
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And to feature Travis Kelcey at this point in his
career is great and all, but the reality is he
does not start fast. He has to warm up into
the season and he's nowhere near that. But that's your
number one receiver you're depending on right now. Yep, yep.
So so yeah, so I mean, so it's well and
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Isaiah Pacheco, where.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Is he at?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I guess coming off that injury that he doesn't. I
thought he looked pretty good last night. One thing, by
the way, we have Alvalo Martin coming up at ten twenty.
We have Bob Labriola joining us at eleven o'clock in
the locker room today. One of the things that really,
you know, you forget this about Mahomes sometimes, or at
least I do. Patrick Mahomes is a big man, and
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Trevor Lawrence is a big man. And those guys they
I mean, okay, they slid on occasion, but they would
also lower the shoulder, split defenders, try to pick up
the extra yard. I was really impressed. You know, maybe
Lawrence was looking to run, perhaps a little too much,
maybe they wanted to do that. Regardless, he can tuck
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it and go. Now, I mean both those guys. I
was impressed by the physical nature of both of their
running last night. Now, you gotta be careful because there's
physical nature, and then there's the fact that some of
those guys you're being physical with the are a lot
bigger than you are, and you risk, you run the
risk of getting injured. But I was impressed by both
those guys running last night.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It was definitely good to see the activity level. And
I mean we kind of we kind of knew who
Etn was, right, I mean, the combo of et and.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And by the way, he looks like a different guy.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He looks like a different guy.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I mean it's like he found his stride and he's
he's running fully with it. And I think that's what
you know, we saw at Clemson and that was the
guy that was so dominant when they had those national
championship runs. And so for him to kind of find
this renewed sense of running and confidence running, it's it's been.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
It's been great. And that offensive line for Jacksonville looks
a lot better.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They they they led the way and I thought they
had a solid game last night.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
So you're seeing a team that's been amassing.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
All these pieces, right, They've had high draft picks, and
now it's starting to actually pay off and pay dividends.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
For him, right, And I mean it's still that's what
has to happen, because that doesn't always happen. You know,
we see teams have plenty of high draft picks and
nothing ever comes of it. But something's coming of it.
It looks like in Jacksonville. You know, they there were
a lot of teams that I thought were extremely interesting
heading into this season. I thought the Bears were. I
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don't know if they've really been all that interesting. We'd
certainly talked about Jacksonville being one of those teams that
could take a leap forward with a new coach, whose
quarterback friendly, the commitment to Trevor Lawrence, the you know,
the drafting of Travis Hunter giving him another weapon, clearly
just saying hey, this, you're the guy, and we've got
a great offensive mind and let's go, much like I
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think they're trying to do up in Chicago and New England.
New England. But man, if New England continues this, they're arriving.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I thought they could you know, bounce themselves up to
seven wins or so and we still let's see, they've
got three, you know, and be a tough out and
be a very boll coached, you know team that even
if they lose, it's twenty three seventeen and they're and
you're you know, you're fighting to the end. But I
don't know, Man, We're gonna We're gonna take a look
at the power ratings later, Max, because it's the closest
thing we have, the rankings in the NFL. And it's uh,
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it's crazy, man, I mean, it's it's been a it's
been a crazy season.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, it's absolutely been and I know, I know we're
short on time. But it's it's you're seeing You're seeing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A proper, a proper NFL with full of parody, and
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, So we're gonna take a break now because we
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
Hey, yah, Hira, think I back up you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
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Speaker 5 (13:52):
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I'd see this Nation Radio part of the Steelers Audio Network.
Phenomenal call by Alvaro Martin who joins us now. Colemoy
STAMMI migo, great call man. Always good to have you on.
And uh it's it's I love hearing those calls of
yours man. Beautiful stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That was a Guinness free call, I should add it
was what a Guinness free call?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, get very nice, very nice? That was the rest
of your trip? Was the rest of your trip? Guines
us free?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yes, it was okay, Wise, I'm trying to keep US
slim figure and uh, I don't have any Irish relatives
that I know of, Okay, so I didn't have to celebrate.
But it was a wonderful experience. As you know, the
excitement and the voice had a lot to do with
the excitement of the event. The fact that the Steelers
won dramatic at the end, spectacularly along the way just contributed.
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When you witness history, when you're part of it, it's special.
And I was talking to some people, you know about
the Dublin experience, and I said, you know, the NFL
can go to any city they want, but how many
cities can you go where they speak your local language
meaning English, where the reception of Americans is almost a given,
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lots of tourism between the US and Ireland in both directions,
and where it's kind of safe to walk around the streets,
and it's just a wonderful little place. It sets the bar.
I mean, in the future, you can go to a
place I'm not gonna name, cities where you can't walk
out the door and the team tells you don't leave
the hotel and you have sitting like Dublin, which is
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as much as your time allows enjoy it. It was
a really really special experience. I don't know, I haven't
been to the German Games or the London games, but
this one was special.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
No, it absolutely was Alvaro, and I think that's why
Roger Goodell took such special interest in being there, attending
and being around the city in various moments.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I talked to him at the Steelers welcome reception at
Trinity College the night before the game. He talked about
his time when he got here about a day or
two before that, and like just touring some sites.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And he couldn't believe.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The amount of NFL fans from the States. And I
know Missy talked about this in the broadcast, but he
was just so surprised at the reception of not only
American football in a brand new market, but the American
response to football in a new market. And the fact
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that you had a thirty percent ask from people traveling
to watch this from the US and the normal split
is usually ninety ten local to travelers, and how you
had a three hundred percent increase in that just in
this one game, and people came over.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Days in advance.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So it was it was absolutely phenomenal to see on
display to get the feel of being an acrosure, right, Alvaro,
even though we knew we weren't an acrossure, like when
we sat in our booth, or I should say our
section in the stadium, because there was there was no
there was no coverage of a booth except for the
awning on the top of the stadium. We were in
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the environment with the fans. I mean, you guys were
right next to the fans, and I was we were
just one section removed from that, and aisleway kind of
separated us right next to each other during the entire
game broadcast, and it was.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Just something special. It was it was seeing.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All of that and just kind of describe what you
visually saw environment wise outside of that beautiful call, which
I could say that I knew four words that you
said there, Alvaro.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I heard.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I deciphered them. Quarenta which means forty, then ocenta which
meant eighty right for the total yards of the play,
and then DK metcalf and touchdown right.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
And then at the end I ended with Patty Power,
which is a lot of oppression and a local brand,
you know, as in Patrick Patti Power. Yeah, he got
himself some patty power to motor, that that that run,
that that catch and run. You know, I'll tell you
my experience. It's funny. The people that sponsor these games
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in a local level in Madrid, London, Germany would actually
rather not have locals attend. They would love to fill
up their stadium with visitors who pay a lot of
money and spend money in their you know, jurisdictions in
their cities. So there's a conflict, you know, if you're
the Irish Republic or the city of Dublin, great deviasteers,
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but I hope no, none of the local show up.
And everybody shows who shows up pays their way into
Ireland and spends money in our hotels and takes our
cabs and eats our food and so on and so forth.
So this problem this game have probably the lowest local
content in terms of fans. Now that given that the
place is so huge, with seventy five thousand, then that
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probably meant about twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty fourth,
maybe twenty five thousand people who are local. The thing
that's interesting to me and I saw it in Mexico
in two thousand and five, where already football is being played,
and there was already a fan base established. The fact
that you show up means that it's not something you
see on the telly. As they say over there, it's
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not something you see on the television anymore. It's real.
And the fact that I saw on Saturday Broerck, Jones
and Cam Hayward walk the city of Dublin, walk the streets,
and obviously the Steelers fans flocked, but even some Irish
people showed up. The fact that the person that checked
me out at the hotel twenty five minutes away from
the city of Dublin, young lady told me that she
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had watched the Steelers, but now she gets the Steelers.
She understands how they play, what they stand for, what
the brand is about. And she said to me before
I left, you know, I wasn't I knew about the Steelers,
and they were uppermost in my mind when I think
of the NFL. But now I'm a Steelers fan. See,
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that is what history is about. That's actually watching history
unfold in a nanosecond is to see one person turnover.
It's like Christian's in Romeo. You're on our side now,
and that's just a wonderful thing. To see, and there
were many iris would say, oh, who are those people there?
Why where is there such a long line, and somebody
would say, it's the NFL Steelers are coming. They're playing.
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And that is exactly what Watcher Goodell wants. That is
exactly what the people that buy the rights to the
global market want. In this case, Pittsburgh want now five
or sixteens I think, you know, buying into the rights
of it to be in Ireland. And that's what the
fans want too. And if you heard the announcement in
Dublin as well, they want to go from seven to
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sixteen games a year, which is tremendous. I don't know
how the NFL does it, but it's just wonderful to
see that. Also, I could not I didn't see mister
Rooney much. I couldn't. Every time I saw him that
week or that weekend, there was a smile from eree.
He just couldn't wipe off. Everything about the week was
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right and wonderful team. He was like not even stepping
on the ground, he was walking on air. And the
fact that the players took the game very seriously and
decided to play their best game of the season and
make sure they got the win, just put the cherry
on top. Just a wonderful experience. Too bad for Minnesota.
They played, they played to win. They have won that game, right,
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but you know, this was going to be Pitchsburgh weekend
and it didn't spoil it. And then on the way back,
and even on that Sunday where rain was expected, I know,
you know that route to see the sun breakout typically
in the end of the first half, second half, hit
the field, and then to see the sun set as
you walk downtown because everybody had to walk downtown from
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brook Park. Ires Street was blocked and Irish fans and
American fans, they were all just literally just gumming up
the roads. And that was an experience that was fun.
That was you don't see that too often. Yeah, I enjoyed.
I enjoyed walking across the bridge.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I enjoyed walking back of the crowd. It was yeah,
it was it was very you know, one more thing
about football and international football, Alva, and then we can
get back to the Steelers a little bit. But you know,
discussing with someone flag football the other day and I
I I think it is an entree for you know,
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and it's something that the NFL is really stressed. I
don't know how much they played internationally. I know they
were playing it in Ireland and have been playing it
in Ireland. Dan Rooney, you know, the late Dan Rooney,
the ambassador to Ireland, brought flag football there and played
it in the backyard of the ambassador's residence. And I
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just wonder if it's an entree that, if it's a
long play entree that okay, after five or ten or
fifteen years of that gaining some popularity because it's fun. Listen,
you know, if you played organized football or not, flag
football is a fun sport to play. I just wonder
if that's maybe a long term entree for other fans
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who who are getting a taste to the NFL to
sort of get a feel for at least a little
bit of what the game of football was like.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Well, Rob, it serves two purposes to me. When you
were growing up, because you and I are about the
same age, we would play on the street and would
say that car is the end zone. That car, there's
the end zone, right, and you use a tennis ball
typically if you didn't have a football and you just
played American football is a very tough sport to export
because of all the equipment and the infrastructure needed to
play the game, not even to mention the fact that
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you need all the medical paraphernalia around the game in
case people get hurt, because people do get hurt. It's
a contact sport. So it's a very hard sport to
export just because of its cost. It's really very very difficult,
and so it's very difficult to create a culture if
you can't play contact football. Now I have a different
strategy in the NFL is slightly different, but I do
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believe that flag is the way for you to get
to know the game, get to know and understand some
of the beauty of the game without the hurt. And
most importantly, and this has been my experience, you activate
half the population world i e. Women and women take
flag football very very very seriously, very seriously. It's not
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just a game they like or the game they the
parents kind of brought them up in. It's an outlet,
it's a it's a competitive outlet. And if you can
make fifty percent of the population turn to football in
this sort of form, then getting them into the stadium
to watch the game and watch the game on television
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or their favorite scream. It's just a whole lot easier.
So it is a tremendous shortcut. And again, do not
underestimate how women perceive flag football. That's their super Bowl,
that's their game. If the men want to play, that's
fine and enjoy it. But for women it's their football.
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And if we can build that up and that becomes
a real powerhouse, so that is exportable. The Steers just
donated a thousand kids in Ireland over the week, a
thousand flag football kids. I'm sure or Max hand it
out some of them. So when you can do that,
you know, these are points of contact. I spoke to
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Commissioner Mark Tatum, the Deputy commission of the NBA, and
I asked them, how do you know when you turn
someone into a fan? He said there were four touchstones.
Number one, do you play? Number two do you watch?
Number three? Have you bought any merchandise related to the league?
And number four have you been to a game? Which
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is the hardest thing or the game comes to you
to your country. Now that fourth one is the hardest
one internationally, but he says, if we have three out
of those four, we've got that person and they can
actually identify digitally who that person is or in the world.
The NFL probably has an equivalent, and so getting them
to play flag football is probably a fifth category. It's
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that important to turn people into football fans, and then
you get more people who want to play, more people
want example in the league, more people than that, then
it's you justified. You're buying more equipment, maybe setting up
high school programs, which I think it should be a
priority for the NFL. I would go after the most
wealthy schools in a country. I'm I'm I'm invading and
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say you've got the resources, will help you set up
We'll find even find coaching will help you set up
a league. The moment football's played locally and watched locally,
then the culture takes roots. Then it's a whole You've
you've you've done all the hard work. It's just a
matter of time.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, and you collect on the dividends of that. And
I think Alvaro two.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Things specific, especially to what you said Monterey this summer,
right when we were down there for that flag football tournament,
sold out in three and a half hours, and you
saw all the different teams from all over Mexico showing
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up in Monterey to compete in that Steelers flag football tournament.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
That was a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And like you said, it goes back to do you play,
And like you said, the girls teams were more ferocious
than than than the boys teams, and then they took they
took special exception to the pride of playing that game.
So I completely agree with you on those touch points.
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And now you activate the other half of the population
something that felt like the boys club.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh this is a man's game. No, no, no, no, no.
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Holly Robinson Pete wrote a famous wrote her famous book
you know, get your own damn beer. I'm Watching the
Football Game, A Woman's Guide to Football that she wrote,
you know, about two decades ago. I actually gave that
to my wife when we were dating to get her
caught up because I could explain with sugar packets and
everything while we're on a date. But I was like,
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but I don't know how you learn, so if I
give you this book. She read that book cover to
cover and her knowledge of the game went up exponentially
to where people were like, hey, man, can we sit
with Tiff during the game because she really explains it
really well and It came from that book and I
just I look at that and I see that. But
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even more so to get back directly to Ireland. This
is the NFL's long term plan. So there was a
thousand kits that were that were donated during the week
we were there. But the NFL and actually the Steelers
broke her this deal to make the NFL do it.
Every school in the entire country will be delivered by
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I think the end of twenty twenty seven. Every school
will have flag football kits to have to create teams
and to create a competitive league in Ireland. That was
the NFL's goal when you talk about global marketing and
bringing the brand outs. What they said, We're going to
every school in Ireland and we are donating and that
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was spearheaded by mister Rooney to get flag football kits
so that every school would would be able to service
a team and be able to create a league in
Ireland for school age kids at the grassroots level. Right,
we always talk about how do you influence how do
you affect the NFL Play sixty program, Right, that's in
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the US, that's a grassroots child, primary school based startup.
For your introduction into the NFL now worldwide. It's now
flag football introduction into the NFL and creating these clinics, championships,
tournaments and all of the kind I mean the one
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we did in Belfast, you know where we went and
saw that was actually that was actually Dan Rooney Juniors.
That was his project that he wanted to have. He
wanted to do a tournament up there, and that's when
Ike and Jerome came up for the flag football clinic
up there and it was just as beautiful to see.
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And like you said, that's the way you can capture
the hearts and the minds for a sport that has
so many barriers to entry.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
How do you make.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It as small as possible? Well, all you need is
a belt and the flag in the football, right, and
then all the other stuff comes. If you want gloves,
if you want the special cleats, you want the full
swag of the outfit.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But all you need is a belt with two.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Flags on it and a football and now you can
say that you can play football. It's tremendous how they've
micropackaged and how they've now created and now it's an
Olympic sport too, so now you've got international.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Visibility of the success of the sport. It's only going
to grow from here.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You know, you mentioned Dan Rooney, Art Rooney Sun. He's
been involved in many projects. He's learning the ropes, particularly internationally.
It's his portfolio. And as much as our Rooney, his
father was as I said, grinning ear ear the entire time,
Dan Rooney deserves kudos. You know, this tript Island was
his project, beginning to end, and it was a roaring success.
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Not just because Pittsburgh won the game. That's the most
important thing. Obviously he couldn't control that, but every other element, belly,
Everybody walked away not only is happy, smile, smiling, satisfied.
Everybody walked away thinking this was good. This was really good.
They did it well, and Dan had spent months getting
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this ready, and you know, you it's like the sort
of the backup defensive lineman had a great game. Nobody
really noticed this, but hey, everybody else knows Dan did
a great job. He deserves kudos as well.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, fantastic stuff. And just quickly alvaroke that with the
team coming out of the buy at three and one,
your feeling about where the Dealers sit right now four
games into the season.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, my advice to everybody is, don't scoreboard chase, don't
check the standings. I have one name for you, Dorian
Thompson Robinson. Week twelve, twenty twenty four. Ah, easy win
in Cleveland. We lost twenty four to nineteen. Things happen
in the NFL. Teams get up for you. There are
though about six games Green Bay, Indiana Chargers, Buffalo, Detroit,
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Baltimore at the end of the season, when they get
Lamar back and everybody sort of back in their swinging,
that are going to really define the quality of this team.
And the only question I have is the jumbo package
worked wonderfully, get you the yards, puts you in third
and shorts give you more variety. But in the end,
it is a bit of a clutch. I mean a crutch.
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It's a bit of a it's a mask. It masks
the fact that the offensive line, the five guys by themselves,
can't get that result. And at some point you want
to see growth because the members of that line, four
out of them are still young and developing. So that's
that's a concern on you self, scout. You know, to
what extent if the jumbo package works, great, but to
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what extent you say, no, no, no, no, we need to
kind of not use to the package because when we
do that, we're taking a highly paid tight end out
of the out of the lineup or a receiver out
of the lineup. And then on defense, we've seen already
in the first four games that speed is a problem
in the secondary that really truly speedy guys like Jackson
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Smith and Jake Garrett Wilson, Tory Horden give you trouble.
And if they give you trouble, you're gonna have to
play to the zones. And if you play to these
zones against what you'd rather do this year, which play
a little bit more man, either your your pass rush
gets there quickly or you got to play to the zones.
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And so those are I think concerns for the team
right now, but they're showing tremendous resilience. Aaron has adjusted
to the reality of the of saintin Lanta, and you
got rid of the ball in two points one six seconds,
which is ridiculous, but againn't done that since two thousand
and six in a game. But that may be the solution.
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That's a year that's not the Aaron Rodgers that everybody
likes the MVP Aaron Rodgers, but it's going to get
you the wings and it's going to keep them up right,
and that's the important thing this year. So there's a
lot to work on. But they're playing with great tenacity.
They're playing, you know, whether they make mistakes or not,
they're playing with great effort and that's what you want
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to see. Hopefully they'll be development. I can't tell, and
I can't promise that, but they're playing with tenacity. The
greatest example was was Croke Park, but I think they
were inspired by that. So they've got the chance. Don't
worry about how the other teams are phasing it, who's out,
and how bad they're doing. I forget that You've got
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Cleveland Cincinnati in Cincinnati in a short week. Okay, don't
worry about you know, Detroit, don't worry about the Chargers,
don't worry about Buffalo. Just get through Cleveland Cincinnati the
way you should and get better at the areas that
I just mentioned. And to me, that's the challenge. Forget
about everything else. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, it
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doesn't matter where Baldemor is right now. It does not matter.
Just beat Cleveland and then beat Cincinnatio a short week
and then we talk. Then we can talk.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That sounds wonderful, Alvaro. We will continue to talk with you,
my friend. It's always a pleasure. Thank you so much
for coming on in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Thank you so much. Guys, enjoy the week, See you soon.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You got yep, we will see you on Sunday. Thanks,
my friend. We will continue with a really kind of
a fascinating statistic about something that's happened in the NFL
that has rarely happened before, which we will get to
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
All right, thanks to Albaro Martin for joining us. Thanks
to you for joining us as well. In the locker
room so Max I before the break, I said, there
was a statistic that I found fascinating, something that's rarely
happened in the NFL and what the ramifications could be
if history is correct. So as we wrap up Week
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five last night with the Monday Night Football, there are
no undefeated teams left in the NFL. Buffalo and Philadelphia
both were defeated. This is just the fourth time in
the Super Bowl era, the fourth time that there are
zero undefeated teams entering Week six, just the fourth time.
The last time was twenty fourteen. It was the Cardinals
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and Bengals, they both lost twenty ten the Chiefs of
the final unbeaten team they lost in Week five. In
nineteen seventy, nobody got out of Week four. The Lions, Rams,
and Broncos were all three to zero and they all lost.
And so this is the fourth time that's happened now. Arizona, Cincinnati,
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Kansas City, Detroit. Four of the six teams that we
just mentioned that were the final unbeatens not deep in
the season, not a team with a long stretch of dominance,
but teams that were good early and lost early. Eventually,
they all lost in the first round of the playoffs,
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and two of those teams didn't even make the playoffs
Team seventy Rams and Broncos. Now they were just three
and oh so I don't know what to make of that.
If history repeats itself, then the teams like Buffalo and
Philadelphia that I think we're widely considered the top two
teams in the NFL will be bounced by the end
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of the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, if that's the case, parody is still alive, and well,
it's okay with me, MANFL.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm good with that. We were never on that list.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that happening.
I think that's that's kind of wild. I think probably
in those seasons, you know, they're the the old saying
is there are there are there are lies, there are
damn lies. And then their statistics, right, you know, so
you could you could kind of make statistics stay what
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you want. But you know, and I think that's one
of the beauties of statistics. What does it mean? Does
it what you think it means? I think that means
that those were those are seasons of exceptional parody in
the NFL. And I also think it means that the
teams that start fast in a league that's got a
lot of parody aren't necessarily the teams that finish fast,
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which is one of the things that we've talked about
a lot on this program. Get the wins early. Alvaro
just said it as well, get the wins early, stack
them up. It doesn't matter how And you know, with
each step of the journey, try if you can to
get a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
And that's really what it is, because this this is
a marathon. An NFL season is a marathon. It's not
a sprint. It's not, as it is at best, a
quick jog or at least a quick job. And you
just want to make sure that you're putting a step
in front of the competition, meaning you want to gain
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as much of a cushion as you want so at
the end and you're not having to strain to get
to the finish line. And September, just like the start
of a race, is your freshest, the freshest you'll be
all year from a competitive standpoint, and obviously the best
you'll ever feel is the first day you show up
training camp. But the best you'll feel as a team
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is going to be at the beginning of September, right
after Labor Day. When you start that seat, that's the
healthiest you're going to be. And then everything else is
how slow do you allow the regression to be. And
the slower you allow your regression to be versus the
competition is what allows you to keep pace the entire season.
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And that's the toughest thing to do. And the Steelers
have already have already been dealt those blows, right, you know,
they've dealt with massive amount of injuries to one position.
Groof again, right at the secondary level.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
We saw Joey Porter go out. We saw Deshaun.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Elliott go out week one, boom, right out the gate,
done so, and we didn't have him for a couple
of weeks and Sean came back. Hopefully we're getting Joey
back this week. And then you have a Jayalen Ramsey
this injured now, so you hope you can get.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Him, you know, up to pace and up to speed.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Brandon eccles had a little injury scare at the end
of the game two a week and a half ago.
So you've seen multiple tests of the depth of this
team early on, and luckily majority of those things have
not been serious injuries that have sidelined guys for the
rest of the season, like a lot of other teams.
(42:42):
But everybody's gonna go through that some form of fashion.
You're gonna have to go through that gutted out phase.
You just you just have to make it happen. It's like, listen,
I really want, you know, I really want a good
beef stew. But guess what all I got is some
frozen mixed veggies. I got some brown gravy mix, and
(43:05):
I've got hungry man meal. I've got the Salisbury steaks.
I still gotta make it right. You still got to
make it with whatever you want. It's it's not the
prime cut of meat that you want in there. I
don't have a slow cooker. I just got a pot.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
You got to make it work and figure it out
and still get the meal out. That's what the team
has to do. The team has to figure those things out.
And the depth is what allows you to slow that regression.
And so the Steelers that's been tested. But it's worked
out thus far and you've gained ground in the competition.
You still got to make it to the finish line, right,
(43:36):
Just because you have a lead doesn't mean you're going
to win, but you want to separate as much as
you can while they're down, pick up the pace a
little bit, just so you could further that gap so
that you're not straining at the end of the year
and you can coast into it and be in a
good position where you ultimately get to Goal Number one
(43:57):
is I need to make it to the playoffs. I
need that Willie Wanka NFL Golden Ticket for Entryway one
of fourteen to get on to stay on our pursuit
and stay on our track of trying to get to
a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And we're gonna underline an underscore what Max was just
talking about even more with Bob Labriola on the other
side of the break. You're in the Locker Room, presented
by your neighborhood Ford Store and the Steelers Pro Shop
on Steers Nation Radio apart of the Steelers Audio Network.
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