November 17, 2025 • 47 mins
Rob and Max celebrate the win and recap the game against the Bengals, highlighting big moments, performances, and the drive of the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Back to pass, looking left to game.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
On the left flock, Gamewell shrugs off a tackle and
gets into the end zone for a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well, thanks very much for being with us in the
Locker Room, presented by your neighborhood Ford Store and the
Steerer's Pro Shop on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the
Steelers Audio Network. Kenneth Gamewell coming into doing a great
job for the Steelers as a kind of a bullpen
game for the Steelers to use an old baseball analogy.
Had to make a replacement at the quarterback position, at
the running back position, at the safety position, and this
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year is able to come through a much much needed victory.
Max starts, Max you there, my friend?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah, me here?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How are you? Max?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'm good, I'm good man good? What time is?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What time did did you get in last night?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean technically this morning. Okay, we
won't even we won't even say last night. Okay, let's
just get that out of our vocabulary.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Rolled in about two am and it is now what
time there?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It is seven or four? Eight? Okay? Yeah they always
had that.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, I got Yeah, we don't budge. So we're now
Mountain time. We're no longer Pacific.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Okay, how does that throw? Does that throw off your
TV schedule? I never thought about that before.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, it does. It does.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It puts it in a tail spend when I do
try and watch TV because it's like, oh what what
shows on?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Wins?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
The news on that you're sitting there and you're trying
to find something. You're like, oh god, it's an hour
later that I was expecting it.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So but I mean, do you go to Mountain time then,
like you're on Mountain time. So if you if you're
watching a show and it comes on at nine o'clock,
right then yeah, the next week it comes on at
what eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Or ten o'clock?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I can't eight o'clock comes on at eight o'clock. So
you sit down at nine o'clock you're like, oh man,
it's already over.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I remember when I when I first went to school
in Saint Louis, there was a show on called Moonlighting.
Remember this was the days where you I don't even
know if I don't even know if they had VHS
tapes to tape a show. I certainly didn't, and I
and they they would have, like, you know, they're supposed
to have a full season, but you know, they would
just show reruns all the time. Even during the season.
They rarely came up with a new episode. Bruce Willis
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was in it. Oh who is the lead? I can't
remember name? Oh, oh goodness, gracious, I'll come up with it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I drove out to Saint Louis and I'm like, okay, well,
I'm gonna get there late, but I'm gonna be able
to watch Moonlighting on a Monday I think it was
a Monday night, and uh couldn't turn on the TV.
And I'm like, it already air. I missed it. Then
you can't tape. And it was one of the civil
Shepherd thank you very much, justinile Civil she and Bruce Willis.
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Uh anyway, So yeah, so that must be confusing because
for all of us. We just turned our clocks back, right,
but for you have to deal with a completely different
time zone.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
So yeah, so you know everybody you know that's weird.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So what was on at nine last week is on
at eighth this week. That is so strange.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah, no, no, no, what was on at nine then
goes on at ten? Okay, all right, so everything moves
back because we're getting the Pacific time but we're on mountain.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wait a minute, Oh so you're that's what I'm asking.
So you're still getting Pacific time zone.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Stuff even though we're in mountains, so it's an So
it's so it's an hour later for me. Now, so
what was at eight now comes on at nine?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So that you must be as confused as most of
our listeners are.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Right now you're like, no.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
You gotta wait another hour before, and then if you
wait another hour, you may not get me.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So you turn it out.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You're turning on the TV at you know, ten o'clock
in the morning expecting to get the first quarter and
first quarter has already been played, or do I have
that backwards?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's enough.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I can't my hat, my head's hurting, my head's hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Later it hurts. That hurts.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, I know you were trying.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You know what I say, Man, this is your this
is your problem for being in Arizona. Right, if you
weren't in Arizona, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm in Pittsburgh.
It's not a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Not a problem. In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Everybody moves, you got you know, people get the extra hour.
You know, I was there in Pittsburgh when everybody at
the extra hour, no extra hour for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It was like, welcome to Mountain time, folks.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So they do fall back. They do fall back at
the right time. Right, So you do it at night.
If you're young and you're out, Hey, you get an
extra night out, you get an extra hour out. If
you're like me, it means an extra hour sleep. It's great, right,
it works perfectly. Here's one of the tenants for when
I eventually run for president, which I think will happen.
(05:28):
I have to get a couple more decades on me
to run for president.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So you you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Should.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You should spring forward at like three o'clock on a
Friday afternoon. Make it a big makeing it to do.
Here in America, we can afford an extra hour less
from our workforce. Turn it into a kind of a
weekend celebration. The restaurants, the bars, the movie theaters. Everybody
would get behind this.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think happy happy hour. Yeah, exactly, make it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
You know, instead of a negative I got less than
I got an hour less of sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All right, you wake up crouchy, make it. Turn it
into a positive.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean you know you're not behind me. You're not
behind me. I can feel it. Vice President Starks is
not behind it right now.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I'm feeling a championed cause.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
But you know, Congress, I'm just gonna say, Congress is
already toying with the idea of making just permanent time
and time zones so you don't spring forward or fall back,
just one constant. Because funny enough, we are not as
agrarian as we thought we were a society.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Although I grew up in upstate New York. Man, those
farmers can still use the extra hour, believe me. All right,
So enough of that, Enough of that. Max Stark's just
not by Vice President.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Turn the cows, let's go. So they're not gonna melk themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
General, they are definitely not so Max.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, your general thoughts on the Steelers victory over the Bengals,
which again just from a you know, an overview. We
talked about this before the game. Hugely important game for
the Steelers. I'm not saying it knocked the Bengals completely
out of contention, but man, at three and seven, they
are in a world of hurt. And if you're the Steelers,
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you've righted the ship. Now you're six and four. You
maintained a lead with the the the failed Trudeur Sanders
second half against the Ravens. Couldn't get him any points.
You know, not not all on him obviously, but you know,
I'm just watching that game.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Come on, man, get some points.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But overall this was just a failure. It was.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was a big game, big game for the Steelers, huge,
huge game, and they needed this victory.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
They needed to keep pace with what the Ravens are doing.
And you know, when you think about that being not
only a gotta have a game, a most important game.
We have to win this game for so many reasons.
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It was also a response game. It was in response
to what product they put out there for Sunday night
football consumption a week ago, and they had to write
the ship. So you can say, oh, man, we will
give you're up for every week. No, if you saw
what you saw last week in that Chargers game, this
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was a response. And I kind of and I said
it on on the pregame show. I say, you know,
the guys asked it, they posed a question to we
actually pursuit a more directly posed it to me. So
I said, listen, if you don't know what the task
is this week, if you don't know what must be
done this week, you probably should not be getting a
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jersey right right, because this was this was this was
a non negotiable. If if we are a team of
any ilk, any skill, you know, you know what you
got to do. You've got to put one hundred percent effort.
There has to be nothing left on that field, and
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you've got to get that win by any means necessary,
and I mean any means necessary.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Listen, if you if you had to tuck like.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
The the brass knuckles into the girdle, you know what
I'm saying, Like you know, I listen, I'm not I'm
not against that. Apparently, you know, apparently only one side
is allowed to spit. It was like react, but this
this was a huge game for the Steelers. They needed
this and they showed out and who would have known
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a comfortable victory with five minutes left in the game.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Kinger didn't know it was possible. Didn't know it was possible.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
No, And again, you know, a few play here and
there sort of you know, turn the momentum of the game.
And you know, the Dugger interception was just a massive
play in the game. The interception return for a touchdown.
And you know the contributions from the guys filling in.
You know, Mason Rudolph comes in for Aaron Rodgers, Kenneth
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Gainwell takes the load from Jalen Warren. You know, you
have to replace Jalen Ramsey after the incident you just
alluded to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, there are a lot There.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Was a lot that had to go on in the
Steelers in this game, and and there were some tipping points.
There were some points, you know, after Jalen Ramsey was ejected. Boy,
there had to be a bit of an oh feeling
in the in the belly. And yet the Steelers were
able to overcome that and overcome other injuries throughout the
course of the game. Keishawn Williams, your return man went out,
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so now back goes Calvin Austin to return punts once again,
and and so there was a lot of things that
had to be overcome by the Steelers in this game.
You know, on paper, there are a better team than
the Bengals, and they were a better team than them
a couple of weeks ago, and that was a costly
loss for them. But they came back in this game
and showed, you know, with depth and the character that
they're they're the better football team.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But it was there were some tests because of the injuries.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, it was definitely in flux at moments for this
ball game. And you know, and you have to remember
we also had we we had injuries that prevented started
from playing before the game even started, right, no Alex Heights,
with no Darius Slay on top of those injuries that
happened in game. Right, So you know, you're playing with
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less than a full compliment to start the game. And then,
like you said, more guys are dropping like flies, and
and you know, at the end of the first half,
you lose Aaron Rodgers and it's like, man, what are
we gonna do? And you know, and that was still
a true ball game. That was a tight game and
I'm just I'm excited for a guy like Mason to
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get out oportunity because I because I felt like he's
been deserving of it. He's kind of been waiting for
that opportunity. And no, I'm not talking about those compensatory
uh plays that he got at the end of the
game earlier the season, but you know, an opportunity for
him to help the team win the game, put the
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hand in the pile, be counted, be recognized amongst your fears.
I've got amongst your peers, not fears. And yes, sometimes
I'm recognized.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I recognized fears.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And and go out there and and looked every bit
the part that you needed him to look. A competent,
skilled back up that could still sling the football. And
he did a great job of kind of taking a
pay out of Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Flacco football football book of life.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And if it's open, now throw it now, very very
very simple thing.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And you saw him pitch and catch a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
He had to extend it a little bit, but for
the most part, Mason was was was on time, two
and a half second pocket presence, moving around if he
if he felt pressure, never taking his eyes from downfield,
always looking to make the play, and it showed.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It showed.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
It showed a guy who maybe hasn't gotten the most
reps a backup quarterback, but was ready to step into
a heartbeat and has always been game ready. So, you know,
tip of the cap to him and and to Pat
fryar move for forgetting guys ready to go.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
You know, let me just say too that, uh, you know,
I want to doff the cap too, and the players play,
but I want to doff the cap to this star.
There's personnel department, whether it is amateur scouting or professional scouting.
You know, you bring back Mason Rudolph, you trade for
Kyle Dugger, you stick with James Pierre. We talked about
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the depth on this roster before the season began. You
have injuries to a guy like Slay Brandon Echols, who
you brought in in the offseason. He's capable of moving
from that fourth cornerback position to a more prominent role.
I just think that, you know, we talked about roster construction, Max,
and we were looking at it up in La Trobe
and thinking, man, this is.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
A really really deep group of.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Guys, and that manifested itself on the field on Sunday.
I want to praise the players, because the players play,
but I also think that the way this roster was constructed,
the way it was scouted on the professional amateur side,
the way the team was put together, that came to
fruition when they needed it. Guys were able to step
forward because they had the players to put in there.
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And of course that the players have to perform. But
as I said, just you know, I think kudos to
the entire scouting and personnel department for this st Others.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Oh absolutely, Sheldon White, Casey Widel, Andy Widel, Omar Khan
and company, Dan Colbert, I mean, just throw the whole
crew in there. They all did a tremendous job. And
they're doing a tremendous job with not only flipping the
roster and churning it out, but solidifying and finding the
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right pieces that become glued to your team. And I
think that's what's been the biggest difference in watching, you know,
watching just the growth of this squad and how they've
played and how they've done throughout the season. You know,
we we we've been pretty harsh critics of them, and
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rightfully so. Right to whom much is given, much is expected.
But man, the squad was clicking on all cylinders. And
and I think that's something that can catch people off guard,
you know, because like it's just been such an up
and down season. But when that group gets it, get
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gets in sync, hmm, it's it's like it's like the
Boss scene in Voltron, just all five lions coming together
to make one giant lion, you know. And I think
that's how I kind of look at this team. When
when offense, defense, and special teams come together, Man, they
can't be stopped, right Rightkinger. But we've always seen parts
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and pieces and not consistent from either quarter to quarter,
half to half, or heck even game to game. But
what they were able to do, how they were able
to lock in, how they were able to possess the football,
was a.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Thing of beauty.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Now, we could argue the semantics of how you hold
the football, but that's not what we're here for. That's
not the main thing.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
The biggest job was get more plays than the opponent
and sustained drives longer than the opponent. And I felt
like the Steelers on a number of occasions did that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Did they do that consistency.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
No, they didn't cross the get across the fifty a
couple of times, but also our defense didn't allow their
offense to get past the fifty that time. So it
was like it was a net positive gain because it's like, well,
if we're not doing it, just make sure they're not
doing it as well.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
And that was it. But when Mason.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Came out there, he led the drive, they got points
and you're like, okay, he got cheers coming out off
the sideline. That was another big thing to notice. And yeah,
it's just it's really really cool to think about where
they are as a team and how and how they're responding.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
And when you talk about, you know, score having more snaps,
they didn't. The Bengals out snapped from sixty three to sixty.
They still have not out snapped a single opponent this year,
but they did win the time of possession for the
second time, by the way, Just so you know, that
was one of Max's keys before the game, and I'm
totally on board that. I thought it was a great
key And have to our commercial break late in the
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fourth quarter when we knew the Steelers were gonna win.
At that point, Max what's the time of possession and
this Steers had exactly thirty minutes, exactly, Like, we just
need to kneel down to win the time of possession.
And that's what they got. They got. The Steelers got
the kneel down. And by the way, it's hard to
win time of possession. It's hard to win how many
plays you're gonna run when it's this close as far
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as that's concerned. When you have a seventy three yard
touchdown return like Kyle duggarat, I mean, that's you know,
that's fewer plays that you're gonna have a chance to run, right, so,
you know, but you'll take the you'll take the interception
return for a touchdown pretty much every time.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Oh and twice on Sundays, that's right, just once this
Sunday though, yeah, only.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Once this Sunday. But hey, but if it's free, give
me three, you know. And I think I think that's
kind of the mindset.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But like you said, I mean, however, you get it,
you got to get it. A dub is a dove,
that is a dub and will always be a dub, right,
and that will always be held in high esteam. So
getting this victory against the Bengals, and doing in the
fashion that they did was just bonus.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It was bonus.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
It was great to watch, and I'm so excited for
this team and happy for them.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
But the work is not done.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
The road is still craggy ahead, still very.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Tough to maneuver. So if you are going to take one,
today would be the day for that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Steelers.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Remember, at one point in this game, after the opening
drive for the Bengals of the third quarter, we're leading
just ten to nine. They wind up winning thirty four
to twelve. They improved to six and four, they knocked
the Bengals back to three and seven, and we are
just getting started. Plenty more to come. So many great
things that happen in this game, so many great moments,
and also so many players stepping up as well. We're
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going to get to that when we continue. In the
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Speaker 4 (20:43):
Blacko gets his snap back to pass Steelers bringing five flack.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Over in the middle of field. That's picked off. It's Dugger.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Dugger to the forty yard line.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Racing across the fifty to the forty looking for a
block from Herbick gets it tricking down the left sideline.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Thanks justas and Waltz.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is into the ends.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Doug Er a seventy two yard interception per turn for
a touchdown for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And thanks for being one of us in the locker room,
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On Stears Nation Radio, part of the Students Audio Network,
they changed that officialty to a seventy three yard interception
return for a touchdown. But Max, that was You know,
if you're looking at maybe one turning point in a game,
and it is interesting how often the game will come
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down to one or two plays. Keep in mind, the
Steers are up thirteen to nine at that point right
the Bengals are driving late in the third and Dugger
that interception return for a touchdown makes it twenty to nine.
And even though McPherson came back with a field goal
and made it close once again, that that really, you know,
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in retrospect, the beginning of the end for the.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Bengals, it was.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
It was a It was a precipitous fall in production
from that point forward because I think they believed that
they were going to will themselves into it, and they
had recent history of success against us in those instances
for them not to believe any differently, right, I mean,
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this was something that, oh, is tight, but the Steelers
are going to fall and then they're gonna let us
just dink and duck our way down the field.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Ah, that did not happen. Steelers dug in.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
And it was one of those days where you look
at it, I mean, and defense did what they were
supposed to do. They completely shut down and neutralized one
aspect of their game. I thought they were going to
go after the run game again, but no, they bluffed us.
They went after the receiver, said we're going to try
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and stemy this entire passing game and get what Kinger.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
They did just that, Yeah, they did, man, they did
just that is it.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
How are you gonna shut down t Higgins and jam
march it preposterous?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
What everybody else thought? They scoffed at our preposterous.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Scoff, a complete scoff, not not not not not a
shrug off, but a scoff. And and they did a
hell of a job. I mean, there's no other way
to put it. Six combined catches for for five and one.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Five plus one six and they only got six their
numbers added up together.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Anyways, you're two steps out of me, that and that one.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Max. I'm with you now, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're there
now once again.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Hey listen, we all take different directions, you know, Google,
Apple Maps, whatever, whatever you need.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You know, your little compass. Maybe you know what I
had to do.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Their Max had a spring, had to spring ahead to
steps out of me. Yeah, vice president starts against my
idea for springing your head.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Anyway, six receptions.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Maybe I should fall back, Maybe I should fall back.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think we have the wrong person running for president.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think that's where show Vice President King stay in
your corner with president.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Start now listen, No, the vice presidents go do the
cooler trip.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
So no, I'm game president. No, I'm game. Yeah, so
I just want to I'm just here to travel and
make peace.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
By the way, Kyle duggar uh, he he's loud.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
When he does something, you notice it, you know. Uh,
three tackles, it felt like more just because when he
made a tackle, uh, the opponent knew they were tackled,
you know. And when he got his hands in the
ball he made a touchdown a fan hit.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Oh man, he walloped him. Yep.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah, he's probably icing those thighs today. No, a fan
because that was it. That was a really good hit.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
So and force the fumble and force the fumble on
the other tackle.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, that's exactly right. So yeah, he was he you know,
he was all over the field again, recent pickup. Great
job by the pro scouting department. He'd fallen now and look,
you know, people know they're familiar with Kyle Ducker, but
these guys still have to go out and scout him.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
One of my favorite parts of the actually not one
of the favorite parts. My favorite part of the Mike
Tomin Press conference is every week how in depth he
gets into uh players. Usually it's not players they've just acquired,
because that doesn't happen that often. But about the opponent,
you know, you know he'll have something on you know, man,
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I remember DeAndre Swift's pro day, you know, when we
went down and you know, we're talking to him and
we know met his whatever his cousin or something, you know,
and his coach said this about him, and you know
the recall, the recall hey had. So he's got a
roll at X in the mind already. But these guys
still have to go out and pull the trigger. And
you know, Sheldon White and his group have gotta, you know,
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have got to propose it to Omar Khan and and
Mike tom On and they've got to be able to
make the decision to go out and get a guy.
And it is safe to say I think that the
Kyle Dugger acquisition has been big in a couple of ways.
It is you know, he's been able to solidify the
position held by Deshaun Elliott, who's who's you know. I
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love his I love Deshaun's game. You know, I've said that,
I think repeatedly since he's been a member of the Steelers.
I just I love the way he plays. Dugger comes
in is able to fill a lot of that void
for you, and then Jalen Ramsey moves to free safety
for most of the game, and all of a sudden,
now you're feeling way better about the safety tandem. And
then in conjunction with that, a guy like James Pierre
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and Brandon Echles, right, those are so those are your
fourth and I don't even know James Pierre. I don't
even think we can count him as your fifth corner
because he was on the practice squad and they felt
like Pierre was a guy. So again, kudos to the
scouting department for bringing him in as an undrafted free
agent out of Florida Atlantic, and the team identified him
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as a guy who could potentially maybe one day become
a starter for you, much like has been forecast for
a guy like Corey Trice who's having difficulty, as we know,
staying healthy. But Pierre stuck with it. And kudos to
first of all for recognizing the talent, but kudos to
James Pierre. Most of all. It's the player who plays.
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He's stuck with it, stuck with it, stuck with it,
and they felt like there was starter potential there, and
then they maybe wondered when you put a guy in
a practice squad. Is it there or can he help
us now? And whatever the case is, he gets back
on the regular roster and he's been terrific, was singled
out for praise by Mike Tomlin in his press conference
last Tuesday. And then echoles, you bring him into be
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your fourth corner. Suddenly that's your starter and your slot guy.
I mean, those are the guys getting all the snaps
because you move Ramsey to safety because you can because
he can play multiple positions. And all of a sudden,
that secondary looked awfully good. Now, I know there was
windy conditions for both teams to throw the ball down
the field, but kudos to that secondary and the job
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they did against Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh, it was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It was a thing of beauty, I mean, and the
frustration poured over and that was that was a loss
of you know, personal conduct. You know, it's con it
falls under the category of conduct detrimental to the league.
It's a very ambiguous gray area. But you know, the
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defense had to make a decision on who they wanted
to be. Did they want to be that team that'd
give it twenty five points to the Chargers. Do they
want to be that team that you know, despite his
best efforts, did not win the first time. And t
(28:55):
Higgins is still catching catching you know football from from
Rock Purdy from from their previous week.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And what does that say about us.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
That are new coming in? And how you wonder can
you make an impact? Can you be a part of
a team right? And can cant with so much turnover
in a year? Can we actually come together as a
defensive union and get the job done, Because let's just
face it, at one point, the you know, the only
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guy in that secondary was Joey Porter Julia that was
holding Steelers mantle as being a guy who had been
here for previous years and and and you know, and
and contributing, so you know, to have Kyle to have
a chuck on that back half and to throw in
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a Jalen to add a Brandon right to addam Aleik.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To to to your to your linebacking corps, to add
you know, to the Yeah, I forgot, that's right.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Jabriel was in there too, and you know, I apologize,
but just think about how look at that look at
that number.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
The only Joey Porter Jr. Is the only one.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
From the defensive year ago in the secondary right now,
and James Pierre has been up and down in that
and he's been disavowed and reavowed.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
And you know what's funny, I remember James when he
was at FAU. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Like I I remember watching him in college because him
and Harrison Bryant, we're the two big players out of
f a U.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
And then Devin Singletary of course was also on that
team as well. So you had you had like three guys.
You're a man. You know, these guys look good.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
If the if anybody hasn't shot, I thought Devin Singletary
was definitely because nickname was Motor and they were trying
to push him for the heisman. He that kid could.
That kid was just electric to watch run the football.
But there was that James Pierre Kidd that was just
he was on special teams, was making plays, and defensively
he was just super tenacious. He was shut down the
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top wide receiver. But you know, didn't go the way
that we thought it would go in the pros. But
to see that, to see that young man now and
what he's doing, this team responded in kind when one
of their leaders was ejected from the game, and you
and I could listen to a whole segment on justification
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of of what ell that happened, what all that was
displayed after the fact on the video to just keep
playing football, right that that that's the most important thing.
Just keep playing football. And that's what that's what this
defense is. The defense literally put it in their mind,
we're just taking us one play at a time and
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we just had to give our maximum effort for the
least amount of time and good things will happen and
that and our defense did exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
That, and I'm so happy for them.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I'm so happy for the way that they responded to
the criticism out you know, out in out and out
in the ether, and they said, no, yes, I know,
we gave up twenty five points so we could go.
I know, we were on that tear where we felt
like we were giving up a million points a game.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But we're back.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And we just we just shut down the Bengals offense,
you know, almost completely, because it was really tough sledding.
After that first touchdown. There was nothing left, you know,
in their minds that they they wouldn't do to succeed.
And you know, it was like, Nope, we can't let
them score another touchdown. We don't care if they won't
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care if they drive down the field and kick field goals,
not let them score touchdowns, and they denied them. It
was it was, It was a thing of beauty. So
really happy for the way our defense played. That's the
caliber that we expect. That's the calendar that I think
we all were hoping for when the season started to
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be that kind of complementary piece that could slide into
the starting piece and it could go back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
It could be one A, one B. But defense, defense,
defense was what I saw yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
And as as bad as people wanted to think it
was those who can get across the fifty for like
a quarter and a half, I mean it was along
with the Steelers by the way as well.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yep. That's a tough feat to do.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
That's tough to keep, especially the way the league is
designed now with passing and all the additional protections that
are afforded to pass catchers and quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You knickime as the fifty.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Wow, I do, I do wonder?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, Missy was reporting on this throughute the course
of the game, and we you know, we were all
you had to do is be in the stadium to
realize how much the wind was blowing. It didn't feel
like either team could get anything going down the field.
There weren't a lot of big plays offensively. I don't
want to I don't want to say, wow, this Steelers
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defense only got the job done because of the win,
because I thought they did a great job and the
Bengals were not able to hit those deep outs that
they just.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Hit again and again and again on Thursday night at
pay Corps.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
But you know, the win maybe had a little bit
of a factor for both teams being able to throw
the ball down the field. But I just think you
have to chalk this up as a defense doing a
great job slowing down an offense that had scored one
hundred and thirteen points in its last three games, almost
thirty eight points per game in its last three games,
and the Steelers just completely held them down yesterday in
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that victory. You know, when you when you're holding a
team averaging thirty eight to twelve, it ain't just the wind.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
No, hey, hey, some of that's a little bit of
luck as well. But you know, but I think that,
but it's it's a it's a bit unsettling when you
come into acor sure and.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
This defense is clicking.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Your plays are just a little bit off, a little
bit high, a little bit low, a little down into
the right, a little down down into the left. And
that's that that that's what that's what you need.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Sometimes you just you need that extra.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Help in those moments because you were not getting it
from the guys in the black and white stripes. Hate
to hate to tell you that, I know, surprise, surprise,
Steeler Nation. I am talking about the referees man a
couple of blown ones by them, but it did not
deter the defense, and the defense kept playing and playing
lights out even when the whole Jamar Chase Jalen Ramsey
(36:04):
back to back to back penalties that created a seesaw.
And you know that the Steelers were able to overcome that.
Normally they wouldn't have went after that because they're like, man,
this is too hard.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
So I'm really ready for them for what for what?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
They kind of were able to overcome in their own
mind right because the self doubt creeps in as well.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Kinger, you know, can we do this? Can we not
do this? Are we? Are we? What they thought?
Speaker 6 (36:35):
We were or are we going to be something better
than that? And I thought, to a man, they did it.
They adjusted to the run game. Chase Brown still gashed
him a couple of times, but switching to that four
to three or two five, however you want to call
it defensive structure with Malik Harrison inserted a defensive lineman
(36:55):
taken out, you know he was he was all over
the place as well. So you wonder if the cheat,
if if if if the uh, the the treatment of
you know during the IR kind of got things in perspective.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
For him to realize, Okay, I need to come in.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I need to be a hammer because since he's gotten back,
since he's been activated, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
He he just provides a different boost in the game. Kinger.
It's just a different boost when.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
The leak's in there because you have you know, the
human flyswatters on the edges. Sam and will As Peyton
Wilson and uh and and Pat Queen you know, are
allowed to go run free and be more themselves because
you know, Malik Harris is gonna handle the a gaps.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I thought that was that was just.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Another way of of how this defense really stepped up
on an individual basis for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And by the way he talked about the referees, We're
gonna give you the latest done. What might happen to
Jamar Chase as early as today. In fact, I would
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Speaker 2 (38:53):
Here's a pass out to the left Platford game.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
We'll gets to the edge and scare person to the
end zone and Kenneth gainwell as given the Steelers an
early lead on this opening drive with a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
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Speaker 5 (39:21):
Game.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Will had another big touchdown later on in the fourth quarter.
Great great game for Kenneth game well, but just as
a tone setter against the team averaging as we mentioned,
like thirty eight points per game in the last three
games under Joe Flacco. Just to come out and let
him know, hey, you better, you better score some points
again today. That's a great message to send on that
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opening drive for the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
No, it was. It was.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
It was one that when I looked at it and
I watched it again, it just felt in control it
felt comfortable. They didn't try and get too cute during
that drive, and they utilized and went after the weakness
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of that of that defense perimeter tackling and if you notice,
everything was outside to the numbers right even even the
touchdown and eventually happened right to Kenneth game well, that
that little kind of swing pass, kind of darted type
of throw. Uh, some of the screen game that they utilized.
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And Jalen Warren was what was was mister on time
every time up until you know, he got injured. But
that first drive, I mean, he was, he was just
doing He had a really nice job. Of course there
was a couple of stymis in there, but no, he was.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
He was.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
He was running the football hard and that's that's what
I wanted to see and I and I'm just mad
we didn't get to that twenty to twenty five touches
range that I was. I was shooting four with him
in pregame. We only got about half of that, a
little less than that. But ten rushers six two yard
six point two average. That's that's what this run game
(41:11):
can be, and you know can game well as well.
Had a heck of a day and so for him,
you know, well we'll see his status as well.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
We'll hear all this stuff on Tuesday, of course.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
But I just thought everybody was in tune and every
everybody understood the assignment and and in that in that
first drive, and they knew that they needed to get
back to their old ways because you know, that was
you know, when you think about it, what was it
four out of five the first five games this season
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kinger points opening drive points like touchdowns and field goals.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
So remember the touchdown had been an eleven games since
they had an opening drive touchdown.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
So yeah, that's right. Yeah, so that they said that,
what was that was?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That was week one, right, Week one er.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Starting new records.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So, by the way, one hundred and seventy two scrimmage
yards from the two running backs, Warren and Gainwell, and
two touchdowns of course both coming from game Well. Now,
much more to get to as far as the offensive attack,
we'll delve into that, but Mike Florio from Pro Football
Talk kind of laid out what we can expect to
see as far as Jamar Chase. Now, he did caution
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that the NFL, you know, there's no like set precedent. Hey,
this is what happened. They try to, you know, use
the rule things on a on a player by player,
a play by play, a game by game breakdown, and
other factors that are involved, you know, playoff races and
stuff like that. But he said he expects that the
NFL will issue some sort of ruling on Jamar Chase today.
(42:46):
You know, if you're looking for a precedent, jale and
Carter spitting on Dak Prescott before the game began, Carter
was thrown out of the game, suspended for the game,
and then lost his game check. So Carter, so you know,
if you followed that logic, then Chase would be suspended
for the next game against New England, right and and
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missed that game check for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Mike
Florio said, that's what you would expect, perhaps, but that's
not always. The league doesn't always follow their own precedent.
They rule on things a little bit differently than just
this is what happened before. They try to take it
case by case, but we should expect some sort of
ruling today, some sort of decision decision from the NFL
(43:30):
on Jamar Chase, And the camera showed clearly that he
spit and it wasn't like it wasn't like spray. It
was like a for lack of a better, I don't know, goober,
you know, I mean it was a it was a
gob of spit. It was a gob of spit. It
wasn't just a spray. It was a gob of spit.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It was a string. It was a string. It was
like silly string. You know, it had like the little
tail on. It looked like a little like like like
a spit filled comic coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah, you know, I had a string.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Had a tail. I had a tail, and it was
very clear. And then he tried to deny it. Yeah,
that was the other thing.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
I'm like, do you realize what what day and age
we live in?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
So, by the way, you know, when we're going to
compare this to jail and Rams, you know what, we
know what we would call this a tale of two spitties. Sorry, sorry, no,
Warren spit war maybe, uh.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So, Max, he clearly he clearly spit.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
And we could talk about whether jail and Rams you
should have done something or not done something.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
No, absolutely, that is the response you get. That is
the ultimate sign of disrespect.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Exactly exactly so, so.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I don't care everything outside of literally, you know, killing
him on national television.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I was okay with right. You know, obviously you don't need.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
To lose your life over that, but you need to
come close to it and realize that it's a possibility.
I felt like, you need to have the fear of
God in you, so in that moment you don't do that.
That that that is complete lack of sportsmanship, lack of
the lack of lack of respect for another human being
in the decency that they provide.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
No, that that's one. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
If the lost what if they lost the game big
pass or on the top students wind up losing the game.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I mean, you are you feeling differently.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
In that moment, like the amount of disrespect that would
have happened that because the referee should be protecting me. Right,
they're the enforcers of the laws and the rules and
the decorum of the game. If then it's on the
referees and they and if they missed something like that
and it costs me this game because of it, I
know they did, I'm saying, but it didn't cost us.
(45:52):
But they're gonna get an earfull about that. And trust me,
this will not be one that that that we people
will forget because that was that was absolutely uncalled for.
That was BS And how they didn't see it. I
will not know how New York missed that.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I will not know.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
When they were when they were trying to adjudicate this
and decide if if he was going to be grounds
for disqualification or not. They didn't They didn't watch the
whole they didn't watch the whole series of plays, or
they didn't have all the available angles. Should it should
have been available to.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Him, should have been both, and they wouldn't have had
to deal with this problem today, and we wouldn't be
dealing right with it exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We wouldn't have been dealing yep.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
And I was okay with kicking out Jalen Ramsey. I
was okay with losing him.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
If you were going to lose Jamar Chase as well,
I was like, you know what, one for one we took.
We took the best best player from each side away
from the game.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Stevens win.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
But yeah, exactly, but they didn't do it, And now
we'll wait for the adjudication coming at some point. We
think today is results as it regards Jamar Chase. Steve
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Back to pass, looking left to game.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
On the left flock, Gamewell shrugs off a tackle and
gets into the end zone for a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well, thanks very much for being with us in the
Locker Room, presented by your neighborhood Ford Store and the
Steerer's Pro Shop on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the
Steelers Audio Network. Kenneth Gamewell coming into doing a great
job for the Steelers as a kind of a bullpen
game for the Steelers to use an old baseball analogy.
Had to make a replacement at the quarterback position, at
the running back position, at the safety position, and this
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year is able to come through a much much needed victory.
Max starts, Max you there, my friend?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah, me here?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How are you? Max?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I'm good, I'm good man good? What time is?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What time did did you get in last night?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean technically this morning. Okay, we
won't even we won't even say last night. Okay, let's
just get that out of our vocabulary.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Rolled in about two am and it is now what
time there?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It is seven or four? Eight? Okay? Yeah they always
had that.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, I got Yeah, we don't budge. So we're now
Mountain time. We're no longer Pacific.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Okay, how does that throw? Does that throw off your
TV schedule? I never thought about that before.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, it does. It does.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It puts it in a tail spend when I do
try and watch TV because it's like, oh what what
shows on?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Wins?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
The news on that you're sitting there and you're trying
to find something. You're like, oh god, it's an hour
later that I was expecting it.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So but I mean, do you go to Mountain time then,
like you're on Mountain time. So if you if you're
watching a show and it comes on at nine o'clock,
right then yeah, the next week it comes on at
what eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Or ten o'clock?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I can't eight o'clock comes on at eight o'clock. So
you sit down at nine o'clock you're like, oh man,
it's already over.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I remember when I when I first went to school
in Saint Louis, there was a show on called Moonlighting.
Remember this was the days where you I don't even
know if I don't even know if they had VHS
tapes to tape a show. I certainly didn't, and I
and they they would have, like, you know, they're supposed
to have a full season, but you know, they would
just show reruns all the time. Even during the season.
They rarely came up with a new episode. Bruce Willis
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was in it. Oh who is the lead? I can't
remember name? Oh, oh goodness, gracious, I'll come up with it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I drove out to Saint Louis and I'm like, okay, well,
I'm gonna get there late, but I'm gonna be able
to watch Moonlighting on a Monday I think it was
a Monday night, and uh couldn't turn on the TV.
And I'm like, it already air. I missed it. Then
you can't tape. And it was one of the civil
Shepherd thank you very much, justinile Civil she and Bruce Willis.
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Uh anyway, So yeah, so that must be confusing because
for all of us. We just turned our clocks back, right,
but for you have to deal with a completely different
time zone.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
So yeah, so you know everybody you know that's weird.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So what was on at nine last week is on
at eighth this week. That is so strange.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah, no, no, no, what was on at nine then
goes on at ten? Okay, all right, so everything moves
back because we're getting the Pacific time but we're on mountain.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wait a minute, Oh so you're that's what I'm asking.
So you're still getting Pacific time zone.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Stuff even though we're in mountains, so it's an So
it's so it's an hour later for me. Now, so
what was at eight now comes on at nine?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So that you must be as confused as most of
our listeners are.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Right now you're like, no.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
You gotta wait another hour before, and then if you
wait another hour, you may not get me.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So you turn it out.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You're turning on the TV at you know, ten o'clock
in the morning expecting to get the first quarter and
first quarter has already been played, or do I have
that backwards?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's enough.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I can't my hat, my head's hurting, my head's hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Later it hurts. That hurts.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, I know you were trying.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You know what I say, Man, this is your this
is your problem for being in Arizona. Right, if you
weren't in Arizona, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm in Pittsburgh.
It's not a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Not a problem. In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Everybody moves, you got you know, people get the extra hour.
You know, I was there in Pittsburgh when everybody at
the extra hour, no extra hour for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It was like, welcome to Mountain time, folks.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So they do fall back. They do fall back at
the right time. Right, So you do it at night.
If you're young and you're out, Hey, you get an
extra night out, you get an extra hour out. If
you're like me, it means an extra hour sleep. It's great, right,
it works perfectly. Here's one of the tenants for when
I eventually run for president, which I think will happen.
(05:28):
I have to get a couple more decades on me
to run for president.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So you you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Should.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You should spring forward at like three o'clock on a
Friday afternoon. Make it a big makeing it to do.
Here in America, we can afford an extra hour less
from our workforce. Turn it into a kind of a
weekend celebration. The restaurants, the bars, the movie theaters. Everybody
would get behind this.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think happy happy hour. Yeah, exactly, make it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
You know, instead of a negative I got less than
I got an hour less of sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All right, you wake up crouchy, make it. Turn it
into a positive.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean you know you're not behind me. You're not
behind me. I can feel it. Vice President Starks is
not behind it right now.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I'm feeling a championed cause.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
But you know, Congress, I'm just gonna say, Congress is
already toying with the idea of making just permanent time
and time zones so you don't spring forward or fall back,
just one constant. Because funny enough, we are not as
agrarian as we thought we were a society.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Although I grew up in upstate New York. Man, those
farmers can still use the extra hour, believe me. All right,
So enough of that, Enough of that. Max Stark's just
not by Vice President.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Turn the cows, let's go. So they're not gonna melk themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
General, they are definitely not so Max.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, your general thoughts on the Steelers victory over the Bengals,
which again just from a you know, an overview. We
talked about this before the game. Hugely important game for
the Steelers. I'm not saying it knocked the Bengals completely
out of contention, but man, at three and seven, they
are in a world of hurt. And if you're the Steelers,
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you've righted the ship. Now you're six and four. You
maintained a lead with the the the failed Trudeur Sanders
second half against the Ravens. Couldn't get him any points.
You know, not not all on him obviously, but you know,
I'm just watching that game.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Come on, man, get some points.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But overall this was just a failure. It was.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was a big game, big game for the Steelers, huge,
huge game, and they needed this victory.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
They needed to keep pace with what the Ravens are doing.
And you know, when you think about that being not
only a gotta have a game, a most important game.
We have to win this game for so many reasons.
(08:15):
It was also a response game. It was in response
to what product they put out there for Sunday night
football consumption a week ago, and they had to write
the ship. So you can say, oh, man, we will
give you're up for every week. No, if you saw
what you saw last week in that Chargers game, this
(08:39):
was a response. And I kind of and I said
it on on the pregame show. I say, you know,
the guys asked it, they posed a question to we
actually pursuit a more directly posed it to me. So
I said, listen, if you don't know what the task
is this week, if you don't know what must be
done this week, you probably should not be getting a
(08:59):
jersey right right, because this was this was this was
a non negotiable. If if we are a team of
any ilk, any skill, you know, you know what you
got to do. You've got to put one hundred percent effort.
There has to be nothing left on that field, and
(09:20):
you've got to get that win by any means necessary,
and I mean any means necessary.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Listen, if you if you had to tuck like.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
The the brass knuckles into the girdle, you know what
I'm saying, Like you know, I listen, I'm not I'm
not against that. Apparently, you know, apparently only one side
is allowed to spit. It was like react, but this
this was a huge game for the Steelers. They needed
this and they showed out and who would have known
(09:49):
a comfortable victory with five minutes left in the game.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Kinger didn't know it was possible. Didn't know it was possible.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
No, And again, you know, a few play here and
there sort of you know, turn the momentum of the game.
And you know, the Dugger interception was just a massive
play in the game. The interception return for a touchdown.
And you know the contributions from the guys filling in.
You know, Mason Rudolph comes in for Aaron Rodgers, Kenneth
(10:19):
Gainwell takes the load from Jalen Warren. You know, you
have to replace Jalen Ramsey after the incident you just
alluded to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, there are a lot There.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Was a lot that had to go on in the
Steelers in this game, and and there were some tipping points.
There were some points, you know, after Jalen Ramsey was ejected. Boy,
there had to be a bit of an oh feeling
in the in the belly. And yet the Steelers were
able to overcome that and overcome other injuries throughout the
course of the game. Keishawn Williams, your return man went out,
(10:48):
so now back goes Calvin Austin to return punts once again,
and and so there was a lot of things that
had to be overcome by the Steelers in this game.
You know, on paper, there are a better team than
the Bengals, and they were a better team than them
a couple of weeks ago, and that was a costly
loss for them. But they came back in this game
and showed, you know, with depth and the character that
they're they're the better football team.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But it was there were some tests because of the injuries.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, it was definitely in flux at moments for this
ball game. And you know, and you have to remember
we also had we we had injuries that prevented started
from playing before the game even started, right, no Alex Heights,
with no Darius Slay on top of those injuries that
happened in game. Right, So you know, you're playing with
(11:35):
less than a full compliment to start the game. And then,
like you said, more guys are dropping like flies, and
and you know, at the end of the first half,
you lose Aaron Rodgers and it's like, man, what are
we gonna do? And you know, and that was still
a true ball game. That was a tight game and
I'm just I'm excited for a guy like Mason to
(11:59):
get out oportunity because I because I felt like he's
been deserving of it. He's kind of been waiting for
that opportunity. And no, I'm not talking about those compensatory
uh plays that he got at the end of the
game earlier the season, but you know, an opportunity for
him to help the team win the game, put the
(12:22):
hand in the pile, be counted, be recognized amongst your fears.
I've got amongst your peers, not fears. And yes, sometimes
I'm recognized.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I recognized fears.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And and go out there and and looked every bit
the part that you needed him to look. A competent,
skilled back up that could still sling the football. And
he did a great job of kind of taking a
pay out of Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Flacco football football book of life.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And if it's open, now throw it now, very very
very simple thing.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And you saw him pitch and catch a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
He had to extend it a little bit, but for
the most part, Mason was was was on time, two
and a half second pocket presence, moving around if he
if he felt pressure, never taking his eyes from downfield,
always looking to make the play, and it showed.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It showed.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
It showed a guy who maybe hasn't gotten the most
reps a backup quarterback, but was ready to step into
a heartbeat and has always been game ready. So, you know,
tip of the cap to him and and to Pat
fryar move for forgetting guys ready to go.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
You know, let me just say too that, uh, you know,
I want to doff the cap too, and the players play,
but I want to doff the cap to this star.
There's personnel department, whether it is amateur scouting or professional scouting.
You know, you bring back Mason Rudolph, you trade for
Kyle Dugger, you stick with James Pierre. We talked about
(14:13):
the depth on this roster before the season began. You
have injuries to a guy like Slay Brandon Echols, who
you brought in in the offseason. He's capable of moving
from that fourth cornerback position to a more prominent role.
I just think that, you know, we talked about roster construction, Max,
and we were looking at it up in La Trobe
and thinking, man, this is.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
A really really deep group of.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Guys, and that manifested itself on the field on Sunday.
I want to praise the players, because the players play,
but I also think that the way this roster was constructed,
the way it was scouted on the professional amateur side,
the way the team was put together, that came to
fruition when they needed it. Guys were able to step
forward because they had the players to put in there.
(14:57):
And of course that the players have to perform. But
as I said, just you know, I think kudos to
the entire scouting and personnel department for this st Others.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Oh absolutely, Sheldon White, Casey Widel, Andy Widel, Omar Khan
and company, Dan Colbert, I mean, just throw the whole
crew in there. They all did a tremendous job. And
they're doing a tremendous job with not only flipping the
roster and churning it out, but solidifying and finding the
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right pieces that become glued to your team. And I
think that's what's been the biggest difference in watching, you know,
watching just the growth of this squad and how they've
played and how they've done throughout the season. You know,
we we we've been pretty harsh critics of them, and
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rightfully so. Right to whom much is given, much is expected.
But man, the squad was clicking on all cylinders. And
and I think that's something that can catch people off guard,
you know, because like it's just been such an up
and down season. But when that group gets it, get
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gets in sync, hmm, it's it's like it's like the
Boss scene in Voltron, just all five lions coming together
to make one giant lion, you know. And I think
that's how I kind of look at this team. When
when offense, defense, and special teams come together, Man, they
can't be stopped, right Rightkinger. But we've always seen parts
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and pieces and not consistent from either quarter to quarter,
half to half, or heck even game to game. But
what they were able to do, how they were able
to lock in, how they were able to possess the football,
was a.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Thing of beauty.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Now, we could argue the semantics of how you hold
the football, but that's not what we're here for. That's
not the main thing.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
The biggest job was get more plays than the opponent
and sustained drives longer than the opponent. And I felt
like the Steelers on a number of occasions did that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Did they do that consistency.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
No, they didn't cross the get across the fifty a
couple of times, but also our defense didn't allow their
offense to get past the fifty that time. So it
was like it was a net positive gain because it's like, well,
if we're not doing it, just make sure they're not
doing it as well.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
And that was it. But when Mason.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Came out there, he led the drive, they got points
and you're like, okay, he got cheers coming out off
the sideline. That was another big thing to notice. And yeah,
it's just it's really really cool to think about where
they are as a team and how and how they're responding.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
And when you talk about, you know, score having more snaps,
they didn't. The Bengals out snapped from sixty three to sixty.
They still have not out snapped a single opponent this year,
but they did win the time of possession for the
second time, by the way, Just so you know, that
was one of Max's keys before the game, and I'm
totally on board that. I thought it was a great
key And have to our commercial break late in the
(18:16):
fourth quarter when we knew the Steelers were gonna win.
At that point, Max what's the time of possession and
this Steers had exactly thirty minutes, exactly, Like, we just
need to kneel down to win the time of possession.
And that's what they got. They got. The Steelers got
the kneel down. And by the way, it's hard to
win time of possession. It's hard to win how many
plays you're gonna run when it's this close as far
(18:38):
as that's concerned. When you have a seventy three yard
touchdown return like Kyle duggarat, I mean, that's you know,
that's fewer plays that you're gonna have a chance to run, right, so,
you know, but you'll take the you'll take the interception
return for a touchdown pretty much every time.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Oh and twice on Sundays, that's right, just once this
Sunday though, yeah, only.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Once this Sunday. But hey, but if it's free, give
me three, you know. And I think I think that's
kind of the mindset.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But like you said, I mean, however, you get it,
you got to get it. A dub is a dove,
that is a dub and will always be a dub, right,
and that will always be held in high esteam. So
getting this victory against the Bengals, and doing in the
fashion that they did was just bonus.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It was bonus.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
It was great to watch, and I'm so excited for
this team and happy for them.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
But the work is not done.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
The road is still craggy ahead, still very.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Tough to maneuver. So if you are going to take one,
today would be the day for that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Steelers.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Remember, at one point in this game, after the opening
drive for the Bengals of the third quarter, we're leading
just ten to nine. They wind up winning thirty four
to twelve. They improved to six and four, they knocked
the Bengals back to three and seven, and we are
just getting started. Plenty more to come. So many great
things that happen in this game, so many great moments,
and also so many players stepping up as well. We're
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going to get to that when we continue. In the
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Speaker 4 (20:43):
Blacko gets his snap back to pass Steelers bringing five flack.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Over in the middle of field. That's picked off. It's Dugger.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Dugger to the forty yard line.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Racing across the fifty to the forty looking for a
block from Herbick gets it tricking down the left sideline.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Thanks justas and Waltz.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is into the ends.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Doug Er a seventy two yard interception per turn for
a touchdown for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And thanks for being one of us in the locker room,
presented by our neighborhood Ford Store and the Steer's Pro Shop.
On Stears Nation Radio, part of the Students Audio Network,
they changed that officialty to a seventy three yard interception
return for a touchdown. But Max, that was You know,
if you're looking at maybe one turning point in a game,
and it is interesting how often the game will come
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down to one or two plays. Keep in mind, the
Steers are up thirteen to nine at that point right
the Bengals are driving late in the third and Dugger
that interception return for a touchdown makes it twenty to nine.
And even though McPherson came back with a field goal
and made it close once again, that that really, you know,
(21:56):
in retrospect, the beginning of the end for the.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Bengals, it was.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
It was a It was a precipitous fall in production
from that point forward because I think they believed that
they were going to will themselves into it, and they
had recent history of success against us in those instances
for them not to believe any differently, right, I mean,
(22:24):
this was something that, oh, is tight, but the Steelers
are going to fall and then they're gonna let us
just dink and duck our way down the field.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Ah, that did not happen. Steelers dug in.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
And it was one of those days where you look
at it, I mean, and defense did what they were
supposed to do. They completely shut down and neutralized one
aspect of their game. I thought they were going to
go after the run game again, but no, they bluffed us.
They went after the receiver, said we're going to try
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and stemy this entire passing game and get what Kinger.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
They did just that, Yeah, they did, man, they did
just that is it.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
How are you gonna shut down t Higgins and jam
march it preposterous?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
What everybody else thought? They scoffed at our preposterous.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Scoff, a complete scoff, not not not not not a
shrug off, but a scoff. And and they did a
hell of a job. I mean, there's no other way
to put it. Six combined catches for for five and one.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Five plus one six and they only got six their
numbers added up together.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Anyways, you're two steps out of me, that and that one.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Max. I'm with you now, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're there
now once again.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Hey listen, we all take different directions, you know, Google,
Apple Maps, whatever, whatever you need.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You know, your little compass. Maybe you know what I
had to do.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Their Max had a spring, had to spring ahead to
steps out of me. Yeah, vice president starts against my
idea for springing your head.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Anyway, six receptions.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Maybe I should fall back, Maybe I should fall back.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think we have the wrong person running for president.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think that's where show Vice President King stay in
your corner with president.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Start now listen, No, the vice presidents go do the
cooler trip.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
So no, I'm game president. No, I'm game. Yeah, so
I just want to I'm just here to travel and
make peace.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
By the way, Kyle duggar uh, he he's loud.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
When he does something, you notice it, you know. Uh,
three tackles, it felt like more just because when he
made a tackle, uh, the opponent knew they were tackled,
you know. And when he got his hands in the
ball he made a touchdown a fan hit.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Oh man, he walloped him. Yep.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah, he's probably icing those thighs today. No, a fan
because that was it. That was a really good hit.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
So and force the fumble and force the fumble on
the other tackle.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, that's exactly right. So yeah, he was he you know,
he was all over the field again, recent pickup. Great
job by the pro scouting department. He'd fallen now and look,
you know, people know they're familiar with Kyle Ducker, but
these guys still have to go out and scout him.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
One of my favorite parts of the actually not one
of the favorite parts. My favorite part of the Mike
Tomin Press conference is every week how in depth he
gets into uh players. Usually it's not players they've just acquired,
because that doesn't happen that often. But about the opponent,
you know, you know he'll have something on you know, man,
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I remember DeAndre Swift's pro day, you know, when we
went down and you know, we're talking to him and
we know met his whatever his cousin or something, you know,
and his coach said this about him, and you know
the recall, the recall hey had. So he's got a
roll at X in the mind already. But these guys
still have to go out and pull the trigger. And
you know, Sheldon White and his group have gotta, you know,
(25:56):
have got to propose it to Omar Khan and and
Mike tom On and they've got to be able to
make the decision to go out and get a guy.
And it is safe to say I think that the
Kyle Dugger acquisition has been big in a couple of ways.
It is you know, he's been able to solidify the
position held by Deshaun Elliott, who's who's you know. I
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love his I love Deshaun's game. You know, I've said that,
I think repeatedly since he's been a member of the Steelers.
I just I love the way he plays. Dugger comes
in is able to fill a lot of that void
for you, and then Jalen Ramsey moves to free safety
for most of the game, and all of a sudden,
now you're feeling way better about the safety tandem. And
then in conjunction with that, a guy like James Pierre
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and Brandon Echles, right, those are so those are your
fourth and I don't even know James Pierre. I don't
even think we can count him as your fifth corner
because he was on the practice squad and they felt
like Pierre was a guy. So again, kudos to the
scouting department for bringing him in as an undrafted free
agent out of Florida Atlantic, and the team identified him
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as a guy who could potentially maybe one day become
a starter for you, much like has been forecast for
a guy like Corey Trice who's having difficulty, as we know,
staying healthy. But Pierre stuck with it. And kudos to
first of all for recognizing the talent, but kudos to
James Pierre. Most of all. It's the player who plays.
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He's stuck with it, stuck with it, stuck with it,
and they felt like there was starter potential there, and
then they maybe wondered when you put a guy in
a practice squad. Is it there or can he help
us now? And whatever the case is, he gets back
on the regular roster and he's been terrific, was singled
out for praise by Mike Tomlin in his press conference
last Tuesday. And then echoles, you bring him into be
(27:43):
your fourth corner. Suddenly that's your starter and your slot guy.
I mean, those are the guys getting all the snaps
because you move Ramsey to safety because you can because
he can play multiple positions. And all of a sudden,
that secondary looked awfully good. Now, I know there was
windy conditions for both teams to throw the ball down
the field, but kudos to that secondary and the job
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they did against Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh, it was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It was a thing of beauty, I mean, and the
frustration poured over and that was that was a loss
of you know, personal conduct. You know, it's con it
falls under the category of conduct detrimental to the league.
It's a very ambiguous gray area. But you know, the
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defense had to make a decision on who they wanted
to be. Did they want to be that team that'd
give it twenty five points to the Chargers. Do they
want to be that team that you know, despite his
best efforts, did not win the first time. And t
(28:55):
Higgins is still catching catching you know football from from
Rock Purdy from from their previous week.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And what does that say about us.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
That are new coming in? And how you wonder can
you make an impact? Can you be a part of
a team right? And can cant with so much turnover
in a year? Can we actually come together as a
defensive union and get the job done, Because let's just
face it, at one point, the you know, the only
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guy in that secondary was Joey Porter Julia that was
holding Steelers mantle as being a guy who had been
here for previous years and and and you know, and
and contributing, so you know, to have Kyle to have
a chuck on that back half and to throw in
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a Jalen to add a Brandon right to addam Aleik.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To to to your to your linebacking corps, to add
you know, to the Yeah, I forgot, that's right.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Jabriel was in there too, and you know, I apologize,
but just think about how look at that look at
that number.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
The only Joey Porter Jr. Is the only one.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
From the defensive year ago in the secondary right now,
and James Pierre has been up and down in that
and he's been disavowed and reavowed.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
And you know what's funny, I remember James when he
was at FAU. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Like I I remember watching him in college because him
and Harrison Bryant, we're the two big players out of
f a U.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
And then Devin Singletary of course was also on that
team as well. So you had you had like three guys.
You're a man. You know, these guys look good.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
If the if anybody hasn't shot, I thought Devin Singletary
was definitely because nickname was Motor and they were trying
to push him for the heisman. He that kid could.
That kid was just electric to watch run the football.
But there was that James Pierre Kidd that was just
he was on special teams, was making plays, and defensively
he was just super tenacious. He was shut down the
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top wide receiver. But you know, didn't go the way
that we thought it would go in the pros. But
to see that, to see that young man now and
what he's doing, this team responded in kind when one
of their leaders was ejected from the game, and you
and I could listen to a whole segment on justification
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of of what ell that happened, what all that was
displayed after the fact on the video to just keep
playing football, right that that that's the most important thing.
Just keep playing football. And that's what that's what this
defense is. The defense literally put it in their mind,
we're just taking us one play at a time and
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we just had to give our maximum effort for the
least amount of time and good things will happen and
that and our defense did exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
That, and I'm so happy for them.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I'm so happy for the way that they responded to
the criticism out you know, out in out and out
in the ether, and they said, no, yes, I know,
we gave up twenty five points so we could go.
I know, we were on that tear where we felt
like we were giving up a million points a game.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But we're back.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And we just we just shut down the Bengals offense,
you know, almost completely, because it was really tough sledding.
After that first touchdown. There was nothing left, you know,
in their minds that they they wouldn't do to succeed.
And you know, it was like, Nope, we can't let
them score another touchdown. We don't care if they won't
(33:03):
care if they drive down the field and kick field goals,
not let them score touchdowns, and they denied them. It
was it was, It was a thing of beauty. So
really happy for the way our defense played. That's the
caliber that we expect. That's the calendar that I think
we all were hoping for when the season started to
(33:24):
be that kind of complementary piece that could slide into
the starting piece and it could go back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
It could be one A, one B. But defense, defense,
defense was what I saw yesterday.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
And as as bad as people wanted to think it
was those who can get across the fifty for like
a quarter and a half, I mean it was along
with the Steelers by the way as well.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yep. That's a tough feat to do.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
That's tough to keep, especially the way the league is
designed now with passing and all the additional protections that
are afforded to pass catchers and quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You knickime as the fifty.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Wow, I do, I do wonder?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, Missy was reporting on this throughute the course
of the game, and we you know, we were all
you had to do is be in the stadium to
realize how much the wind was blowing. It didn't feel
like either team could get anything going down the field.
There weren't a lot of big plays offensively. I don't
want to I don't want to say, wow, this Steelers
(34:31):
defense only got the job done because of the win,
because I thought they did a great job and the
Bengals were not able to hit those deep outs that
they just.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Hit again and again and again on Thursday night at
pay Corps.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
But you know, the win maybe had a little bit
of a factor for both teams being able to throw
the ball down the field. But I just think you
have to chalk this up as a defense doing a
great job slowing down an offense that had scored one
hundred and thirteen points in its last three games, almost
thirty eight points per game in its last three games,
and the Steelers just completely held them down yesterday in
(35:03):
that victory. You know, when you when you're holding a
team averaging thirty eight to twelve, it ain't just the wind.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
No, hey, hey, some of that's a little bit of
luck as well. But you know, but I think that,
but it's it's a it's a bit unsettling when you
come into acor sure and.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
This defense is clicking.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Your plays are just a little bit off, a little
bit high, a little bit low, a little down into
the right, a little down down into the left. And
that's that that that's what that's what you need.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Sometimes you just you need that extra.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Help in those moments because you were not getting it
from the guys in the black and white stripes. Hate
to hate to tell you that, I know, surprise, surprise,
Steeler Nation. I am talking about the referees man a
couple of blown ones by them, but it did not
deter the defense, and the defense kept playing and playing
lights out even when the whole Jamar Chase Jalen Ramsey
(36:04):
back to back to back penalties that created a seesaw.
And you know that the Steelers were able to overcome that.
Normally they wouldn't have went after that because they're like, man,
this is too hard.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
So I'm really ready for them for what for what?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
They kind of were able to overcome in their own
mind right because the self doubt creeps in as well.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Kinger, you know, can we do this? Can we not
do this? Are we? Are we? What they thought?
Speaker 6 (36:35):
We were or are we going to be something better
than that? And I thought, to a man, they did it.
They adjusted to the run game. Chase Brown still gashed
him a couple of times, but switching to that four
to three or two five, however you want to call
it defensive structure with Malik Harrison inserted a defensive lineman
(36:55):
taken out, you know he was he was all over
the place as well. So you wonder if the cheat,
if if if if the uh, the the treatment of
you know during the IR kind of got things in perspective.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
For him to realize, Okay, I need to come in.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I need to be a hammer because since he's gotten back,
since he's been activated, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
He he just provides a different boost in the game. Kinger.
It's just a different boost when.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
The leak's in there because you have you know, the
human flyswatters on the edges. Sam and will As Peyton
Wilson and uh and and Pat Queen you know, are
allowed to go run free and be more themselves because
you know, Malik Harris is gonna handle the a gaps.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I thought that was that was just.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Another way of of how this defense really stepped up
on an individual basis for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And by the way he talked about the referees, We're
gonna give you the latest done. What might happen to
Jamar Chase as early as today. In fact, I would
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Speaker 2 (38:53):
Here's a pass out to the left Platford game.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
We'll gets to the edge and scare person to the
end zone and Kenneth gainwell as given the Steelers an
early lead on this opening drive with a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
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Speaker 5 (39:15):
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Speaker 5 (39:21):
Game.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Will had another big touchdown later on in the fourth quarter.
Great great game for Kenneth game well, but just as
a tone setter against the team averaging as we mentioned,
like thirty eight points per game in the last three
games under Joe Flacco. Just to come out and let
him know, hey, you better, you better score some points
again today. That's a great message to send on that
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opening drive for the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
No, it was. It was.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
It was one that when I looked at it and
I watched it again, it just felt in control it
felt comfortable. They didn't try and get too cute during
that drive, and they utilized and went after the weakness
(40:11):
of that of that defense perimeter tackling and if you notice,
everything was outside to the numbers right even even the
touchdown and eventually happened right to Kenneth game well, that
that little kind of swing pass, kind of darted type
of throw. Uh, some of the screen game that they utilized.
(40:33):
And Jalen Warren was what was was mister on time
every time up until you know, he got injured. But
that first drive, I mean, he was, he was just
doing He had a really nice job. Of course there
was a couple of stymis in there, but no, he was.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
He was.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
He was running the football hard and that's that's what
I wanted to see and I and I'm just mad
we didn't get to that twenty to twenty five touches
range that I was. I was shooting four with him
in pregame. We only got about half of that, a
little less than that. But ten rushers six two yard
six point two average. That's that's what this run game
(41:11):
can be, and you know can game well as well.
Had a heck of a day and so for him,
you know, well we'll see his status as well.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
We'll hear all this stuff on Tuesday, of course.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
But I just thought everybody was in tune and every
everybody understood the assignment and and in that in that
first drive, and they knew that they needed to get
back to their old ways because you know, that was
you know, when you think about it, what was it
four out of five the first five games this season
(41:44):
kinger points opening drive points like touchdowns and field goals.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
So remember the touchdown had been an eleven games since
they had an opening drive touchdown.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
So yeah, that's right. Yeah, so that they said that,
what was that was?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That was week one, right, Week one er.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Starting new records.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So, by the way, one hundred and seventy two scrimmage
yards from the two running backs, Warren and Gainwell, and
two touchdowns of course both coming from game Well. Now,
much more to get to as far as the offensive attack,
we'll delve into that, but Mike Florio from Pro Football
Talk kind of laid out what we can expect to
see as far as Jamar Chase. Now, he did caution
(42:26):
that the NFL, you know, there's no like set precedent. Hey,
this is what happened. They try to, you know, use
the rule things on a on a player by player,
a play by play, a game by game breakdown, and
other factors that are involved, you know, playoff races and
stuff like that. But he said he expects that the
NFL will issue some sort of ruling on Jamar Chase today.
(42:46):
You know, if you're looking for a precedent, jale and
Carter spitting on Dak Prescott before the game began, Carter
was thrown out of the game, suspended for the game,
and then lost his game check. So Carter, so you know,
if you followed that logic, then Chase would be suspended
for the next game against New England, right and and
(43:08):
missed that game check for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Mike
Florio said, that's what you would expect, perhaps, but that's
not always. The league doesn't always follow their own precedent.
They rule on things a little bit differently than just
this is what happened before. They try to take it
case by case, but we should expect some sort of
ruling today, some sort of decision decision from the NFL
(43:30):
on Jamar Chase, And the camera showed clearly that he
spit and it wasn't like it wasn't like spray. It
was like a for lack of a better, I don't know, goober,
you know, I mean it was a it was a
gob of spit. It was a gob of spit. It
wasn't just a spray. It was a gob of spit.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It was a string. It was a string. It was
like silly string. You know, it had like the little
tail on. It looked like a little like like like
a spit filled comic coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah, you know, I had a string.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Had a tail. I had a tail, and it was
very clear. And then he tried to deny it. Yeah,
that was the other thing.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
I'm like, do you realize what what day and age
we live in?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
So, by the way, you know, when we're going to
compare this to jail and Rams, you know what, we
know what we would call this a tale of two spitties. Sorry, sorry, no,
Warren spit war maybe, uh.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So, Max, he clearly he clearly spit.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
And we could talk about whether jail and Rams you
should have done something or not done something.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
No, absolutely, that is the response you get. That is
the ultimate sign of disrespect.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Exactly exactly so, so.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I don't care everything outside of literally, you know, killing
him on national television.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I was okay with right. You know, obviously you don't need.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
To lose your life over that, but you need to
come close to it and realize that it's a possibility.
I felt like, you need to have the fear of
God in you, so in that moment you don't do that.
That that that is complete lack of sportsmanship, lack of
the lack of lack of respect for another human being
in the decency that they provide.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
No, that that's one. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
If the lost what if they lost the game big
pass or on the top students wind up losing the game.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I mean, you are you feeling differently.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
In that moment, like the amount of disrespect that would
have happened that because the referee should be protecting me. Right,
they're the enforcers of the laws and the rules and
the decorum of the game. If then it's on the
referees and they and if they missed something like that
and it costs me this game because of it, I
know they did, I'm saying, but it didn't cost us.
(45:52):
But they're gonna get an earfull about that. And trust me,
this will not be one that that that we people
will forget because that was that was absolutely uncalled for.
That was BS And how they didn't see it. I
will not know how New York missed that.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I will not know.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
When they were when they were trying to adjudicate this
and decide if if he was going to be grounds
for disqualification or not. They didn't They didn't watch the
whole they didn't watch the whole series of plays, or
they didn't have all the available angles. Should it should
have been available to.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Him, should have been both, and they wouldn't have had
to deal with this problem today, and we wouldn't be
dealing right with it exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We wouldn't have been dealing yep.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
And I was okay with kicking out Jalen Ramsey. I
was okay with losing him.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
If you were going to lose Jamar Chase as well,
I was like, you know what, one for one we took.
We took the best best player from each side away
from the game.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Stevens win.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
But yeah, exactly, but they didn't do it, And now
we'll wait for the adjudication coming at some point. We
think today is results as it regards Jamar Chase. Steve
has win thirty four to twelve back with much more.
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