November 17, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, that was optimistic.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what that means.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is the power our hour number two here inside
the locker room. And and King, did you did you
smell that when he drove by? It smelled like a
Victory donut donut Monday. It is indeed, I know we
waited an hour before we talked about it, but today
is the Victory Donut Monday. So I encourage all of
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Steelers to go out there and post your victory donuts
on this lovely Monday. We've gotten some great pictures, you know,
this season from different various Victory donut Mondays. We've also
had Victory pancakes as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Anything that you know you have to wish together and
make flour and batter it, fry it, cook it however.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're we're we're okay, We're not We're not true sticklers
to the letter of the law. We just want you
to enjoy something indulgent, sweet, and and taste good because
we know that we will, and so we want to
share that love with you as well. And you know,
I I realized I need to do a better job
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king full disclosure here before we get into this. I've
misplaced my Victory Donut Monday shirt and I am I
am sad. I can't find it. I have a Victory
Monday shirt that I got years ago, but I really
had a thing for and you know what it was.
(02:04):
I packed it being facetious during the packers week when
we had the Sunday night game. I was gonna wear
it in the studio on Monday because I thought we
were gonna win, and we didn't. And now I have
misplaced it somewhere in my closet and I have like
like I have like the little three hamper thingy, you know,
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for my clothes to separate it, and it's piled up
high because I have not done laundry. I have to
be full disclosure here. So because I have living out
of a suitcase, I got to find it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I got a question for you, Max, And I
think people want to know this. Can you roll into
your local Macy's or whatever and get a T shirt?
So I am I am six foot, I used to
be six to one.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I'm shrinking. I think justin uh and two pounds maybe
more like.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Two o five or two.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Anyway, I get an extra large T shirt because a
large doesn't fit me.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, So what can you get one at a store?
Do you have to order them specially?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, there's there's this there's this great store that's create
It's called Destination XCEL or DXL.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Okay, so you can't go to the local store, You've
got to go to amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, Dillard's I could probably go in. Dillard's has a
big and tall section. Okay, so I can't go into Dillard's.
But will they have something I like outside of like
Polo Ralph Lauren Polo.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Not a lot of options there for big guys.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Uh So you know, well, I should say that fits
my tastes and my preferences.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
They do have stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That if I was going on vacation and just wanted
to look loud and look like a tourist, definitely full
full display. But a Destination XL or DXL is my
one stop shop for all things Max.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I have to tell you, so, I have large feet,
and I think what's happened over the years is the
reason I've gone from six to one to sixteen. You have, Okay, yeah, no, no, no,
we're getting there, but I'm we got a little preamble
going here, so uh you know, I think what's happened
is gravity. It's taken its toll, right like I used
to just I should just get thirteen's all the time.
(04:23):
By the way, for many years, I was a legitimate
twelve and a half. Guess when they stopped making half sizes.
Eleven and a half is the last one. They're basically saying,
look here, Bozo the clown, if you got big feet,
too bad, right, And then I became like a Now
I'm like a thirteen and a half, right, so I'll
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wear a thirteen shoe, but a thirteen sneakers too small.
So now I have to get a fourteen sneaker, which
is a little too big, and nobody cares. The world
doesn't care, Max, The world doesn't care about how they
get you get to a certain point, and they're like, look, man,
either either join the circus or where we got for you,
that's it. Now for you, that's a little bit different deal.
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Are you in the Are you in a half size
mode with your size nineteen?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'm gonna guess it's eighteen or nineteen depending eighteen?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Okay, now could you eighteen and a half? Would an
eighteen and a half be a nice fit for you?
The world doesn't care, Max, But I'm just asking you
a question because obviously the world doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It might but we'll never know, because, like you said,
once you get past a certain size, they don't they're
not really checking for half sizes.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
No, they're not.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And I think that's for the large twitter among us.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and they're like there's and there's usually only one
or two shoes on a website.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
The selection winnows down for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, once you get that high.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's just because sixteen, fifteen and sixteen is the cutoff,
like in stores right right, And even then it's like
I remember back in the day when they actually did
have like some eighties, but this was this was like
just for feet. This was a random foot locker. It
wasn't at the same foot locker every time. You kind
of had to go on a scavenger hunt. To figure
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out if they had and then it was like a
shoe that was like four years old that was like
had dust on the box that They're like, oh, we
never thought anybody would would would come here and request
this size shoe. We had it here for It's like
it's always like you say, we had this here for
profile and purposes, you know, if you ask for this shoe.
And you know, I'm trying to remember the last time
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I've gone into a store.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And requested a shoe and got it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And the last time was Freedman's of Atlanta, which I
believe is now out of business. Freedman's of Atlanta was
a large sized shoe store been there forever.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, I've been shopping. You have to think about this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've been shopping there, Kinger, since I was twelve years old.
That's how long I I have. I have been in
this in this uh you know, oversized shoe sized world
since a kid. Uh, you know, I've been shopping and
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I had the same salesmen there for almost twenty five years.
And uh and Marty and you know, and of course,
you know, COVID happened just like everything else, and you know,
time times were tough, and so a lot of a
lot of layoffs, and then of course a lot of
places closing, you know, after COVID, those rising costs and everything,
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and so I was kind of without. So I was
I was the guy shopping on random, random websites and
just ordering shoes and then having to send them back
if they didn't fit right, because I couldn't really check
and I didn't know, and you know, I wasn't familiar
with the website. And listen, these websites weren't hard to find,
by the way, they were the most like it was.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It was like large feet dot.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Com, large shoes dot com, big feet dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So it was like, you know, that's where I had
to shop for my shoes. And then all of a sudden,
a couple of months ago, Marty text me. And you know,
he always texted me Birthday, Father's Day, all those things, right,
because we've just we've got a relationship.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
He's he's literally seen me since I've.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Been a middle schooler, right, and and when and when
I was in the pros and when we play in Atlanta,
i'd always take the offensive line with me. We would
always go shoe shopping there. It was there, and Tories
would have a limited amount in Philadelphia. So if we
were in Philly or we were in Atlanta, we would
always go do a trip a gay you know, a
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game weekends when we got into town on Saturday, and
we go shoe shopping or go close shopping at in
those two cities. And Marty, Marty had just started his
new own company because he'd been doing it for so
long that was his skill set, right, So and he
had he had this new company, and now I have
business casual shoes. I was wearing him yesterday, king heer
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UH business casual shoes, and I was like, oh my god,
this is something I never thought I'd be in that category.
It was either have to wear sneakers or you're just
wearing old school like loafers and and tie leather dress shoes,
hard bottom dress shoes. And man, it felt if I
felt special to UH to get those shoes and for
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for for UH for Father's Day. Also want Kelvin Beacham listen.
Kelvin's like my little brother man. I love I love Kelvin.
Kelvin is one of the greatest human beings around. Kelvin
got me a custom pair of UH of casual sneakers
to wear with suits and stuff like that. And Kelvin
spared no expense though he got me these Zanias, and
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I was like, oh my god. It came in this
personal like custom box and everything, and I was just like,
because for so long I couldn't I couldn't wear business casual.
They didn't have the business casual sneaker shoe for for
my foot size, and so I was I was just
over the moon that now I'm in. I'm in this
whole new category. Just like you're watching Pluribus now and
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feeling like you're hipping young.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The rest of the crew.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I feel like I feel like I feel like I'm
now coming up to the twenty first century and being hip,
hippy young with everybody else by having a business casual
sneaker that's not a hard bottom shoe when I want
to dress.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
A little more formal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So, by the way, the plurbis dig just like dig
by maxiull. It was observation, so uh I think it
was uh whatever our syar there's crew. Everything was out
like Valencia. I said, Hey, how is it? How is
that rocky? The underneath?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Is it nice?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Age?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm the only one underneath there, you know, the pop culture, like,
I don't know Morgan Walling is coming. I don't know
a single Morgan Wallen song. I don't know a single
tail Or Swift song. I'm just you know, but I'm
watching Pluribus and apparently either who's at yeah, either one
of their confused her with Daryl Lamonica, the old Oakland
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Raiders quarterback back when they were back in Oakland.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
No, don't know who that is?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
And who was the who's the big ticket item?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Tate McGregor, Tate McCrae.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Tate McCrae, I was close.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Connor McGregor is a former.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Uh you know, UFC fighter, And I don't know where
another Tate except for Tate McCrae.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, Okay, anyway, I'm I'm on Pluribus and I feel
like I'm I feel like I'm good because none of
the rest of the crew has watched it, all of
whom are considerably younger than I am.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So there's there. There was the Pluribus reference. Let us
circle back, let us stomp our way.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Back, bigfooted to yesterday's Steelers victory over the Bengals, and
you know, one of the things that struck me was, well,
a couple of things. You know, you win the turnover
battle again. That has been a constant in Steelers victories.
The only game in which they haven't won the turnover
battle was even against Cleveland. Every other game is Steelers
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have won, They've won the turnover battle. Every time they've
lost the turnover battle, they've lost the game. They were
even against the Browns. I just mentioned in two and
two against Seattle though again that the kickoff that was
recovered in the end zone is not technically a turnover
if you count that as a turnover to the free
seven points. You lost the turnover battle on that one too,
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So you won the turnover battle, not only by you know,
getting turnovers, which is a big part of it, but
not turning the ball over, which has been a problem.
Other than that, it just this felt like and yes,
Kyle Duger had had the you know, the interception returned
for a touchdown. He was a star for sure. James Pierre,
you know, kind of emerging, that's been a great story.
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This just felt like a solid team victory to me.
You know, you see you turn on the Browns game yesterday,
if they'd won, we'd all we'd be talking about is
the four sacks Miles Garrett had. But I just felt
like Max, Yeah, there were some guys that maybe stood
out a little bit, but it just just felt like
a very solid team victory to me for this students,
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which is a really good kind of victory to have
when you're starting to think about the tough games coming
up on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, it is, and I think that that's kind of
where you have to be now. I know TJ made
the comment, we don't want to be a team that
has to, you know, live and die by having, you know,
the turnover be the difference, but listen, if it is
something that makes the difference, that listen, by any means
necessary is how you win. I'm here for it because
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I think that's just a differentiated This team is so
much better when we get that turnover opportunity. And I'm
just so excited that, you know, we can be able
to do that because we have a great record. When
we get a turnover, good things happen to our squad.
And I think that's what people have to kind of understand,
is that we are a team that takes full advantage
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when there is a turnover that's involved defensively or offensively, well,
I should say offensively. It leads to an offensive possession,
is how I should how I should.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Word that, and we do the job.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And I think any team that is tenacious and can
get the ball turned over and get it in their favor,
you've got to take full advantage of those opportunities and
be a squad that's ready to react. And I think
we respond well when things are sluggish or things are
kind of stalemate like they were yesterday. You need that catalyst,
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either it's a big return, something that flips the field.
You need those field flipping moments, and yesterday to have
two of those and to not even have to put
the offense on the field because the defense did the job. Now,
that puts a lot of stress on the defense, right,
because that can also hurt your time and position. That's
eventually what you know, what hurts our total plays? Right,
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While we haven't won it, but when you when you
get two and five and three, you know, turnovers, yeah, yeah,
you're gonna have the you have to deal with with
the fallout of that, you know, and be more efficient.
Your defense has to be in better shape to be
able to combat that. But it is such is such
a huge boost to everybody's morale, and I think that's
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what I was really excited about, was just the morale
boost that it provided.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Agreed Steelers win a big game. For the Steelers to
have won yesterday, that was you know, look six and four,
the Bengals in a world are hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It feels very much like a Steelers Ravens AFC North battle.
We're going to get into that a little bit as
we take a trip around the AFC and take a
look at what the Ravens have on their schedule prior
to meeting the Steelers. I don't see any losses on
that schedule for the Ravens, but we'll get to that
coming up in just a little bit.
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Speaker 4 (17:02):
And it is time for our AFC Recap, which we're
going to do kind of piecemeal because we do have
some phone calls we want to get to. The AFC
Recap is presented by UPMC, the official healthcare provider and
health plan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I want to start
with one particular game because the Baltimore Ravens are coming up,
and it's not going to be long before the Steelers
and the Ravens are facing off against each other. And man,
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was I rooting for the Browns yesterday and the Ravens
were able to come back after a first half deficit
and defeat the Cleveland Browns twenty three to sixteen. And
when you look at the Ravens, so now they've won
four in a row, right, And I was looking at
their schedule last night. So this is basically what the
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Ravens have done and what I think they're going to
do leading up to the Steelers. So these are the
good teams they've played, the top notch teams or the
quality teams that they've played. Buffalo lost, Detroit lost. Now
Buffalo appoint to Buffalo eight points to Detroit. Then you know,
some injuries, but they lost by seventeen at Kansas City.
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Then Jackson gets hurt, they lose by thirty four to Houston.
They lose by fourteen to the Rams. Then after the
bye they get healthy and they beat Chicago up next
for the Steelers, a the first place team, so against
you know, quality opponents, opponents that are in the playoff
picture are lurking around the playoff picture. They're one and
five against teams that aren't in that category. Cleveland they
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beat twice, Minnesota once, Miami once. They are four and
oh and so overall they're five and zero. I believe
they'll beat the Jets at home. I believe they'll beat
Cincinnati at home. I believe they will be seven and
five when they play a third consecutive road game, our
third consecutive home game against the Steelers on the seventh
of December. Then they'll finish up and it gets a
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little more tricky for him at Cincinnati, they host New England,
They're at Green Bay, then they're at Pittsburgh. But it's
a team certainly that is going to have to be
reckoned with. They've got a lot of their tough games
behind them. They haven't won a lot of tough games
in my opinion thus far. The Bears are the best team,
without question, that they've beaten this season. So it's an
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interesting Ravens team, and it's a team keeping pace with
the Steelers and the only one game behind. And I
believe it's going to be a seven and five team
that's going to be hosting the Steelers on December seventh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, no, I think I think it will be as well,
like you said, unless something like crazy happens.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Uh, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't see them losing steam. And it's a team
that you know is gonna be going to be on
a very sizable win streak as well, and their confidence
is building and they're they you know, they're starting to
get healthy, whereas that defense was was in shambles at
the beginning of the season and then injuries were taking
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left and right. Now they're healthy the right time, So
this is going to be, you know, a big push.
And this is also the next test for this defense.
That was a symbol this this team was when we
think about this defense construction at the end of the season, right,
it was we had to build this defense to combat
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Cincinnati and Baltimore. You wanted to stop the running. He
had to stop two very good receivers in the league
in tandem, and first time didn't have as good of
a result as we would have liked. But the second
time around, this was why you want now I did now.
It didn't construct the original way that they anticipated, but
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we got to it right. You know, who would have
known that we would have had to go out and
get a Kyle Duggar for the safety position, and that
would have made the difference. We knew what Jalen Ramsey
was going to be, We knew he was versatile, knew
he had capabilities of doing multiple things. We saw it
in training camp. But who would have known that free
safety would have been the spot that we needed him
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the most at. And I think that was kind of
one of the big like oh wow moments for us.
Was okay, and then of course, like you said, James
Pierre being in and out of the lineups, in and
out of practice squad, for this squad, for this team,
he was also a difference maker as well. But you
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knew what you were getting with Brandon Eckles, you knew
what you were getting with Darius Slay. That's why you
went and I did them early in free agency. And
then of course the draft picks Ya Black, Derek Harmon
doing their job they had. They had a lot of
rotation today they made they made some nice plays in
the run game and especially pressure on the quarterback as well.
Jack Sawyer has has has been really good as well.
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So this this is what they were designed for. You know,
this is why you bring over you read Rover Malik
Harrison from Baltimore, two pits to combat Baltimore. And so
it's gonna be really interesting to see when we get
that tilt and we start the one of two against
the Ravens come December seventh. You know how we will
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manage Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry in that backfield and
of course an upgraded passing game with new receivers for them,
how are we going to handle those guys is going
to be key. And this is that test. This was
why you built this defense. So that's going to be
the big you know, Buddy Lee Dungarees can't bust them,
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Let's see if they can't bust you know, to see
if they can bust the Ravens, right, because that was
a problem, you know, a year ago, and it was
it was not pretty, especially when we saw him at
the end of the season and then of course when
we saw him in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And by the way, in case you're wondering about that
rush defense, the Steelers are facing six of the top
seven rushing defense is in the NFL. This season didn't
go well against the Jets, who sitting number five. They
did a great job against Indianapolis at number three. Still
coming still on the horizon, Buffalo, number one in the league,
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Chicago this week, number two in the league. Baltimore even
without Lamar, they're fourth in the league, and you still
have to take on Detroit they're seventh in the league.
So this rush defense is definitely going to get tested
over the next five or six games are thereabouts, and
of course in the season finale against Baltimore as well.
Let's get to the phone lines and let us join
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one in Chicago one, thanks very much for being with us.
I'm one in South Carolina, Chicago. Sorry, cr we have
one in South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
How you doing one?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hey, good morning guys. I got doing good.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Good morning, doing good. One.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Of course, a victory donut Monday and we are here,
and I know, you know our buddy Wolf. You don't
get the clown him about the scale anymore, which is
a sad day because you know, we always used to
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
I know, I think about think about my guy every day.
I miss my guy. So like you said, I'm going
to get a victory doing it Monday for him and
enjoy it and just remember this how he would have
talked about doing it when I call it radio station.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Absolutely absolutely, Why was all what's all with your mind today? Bud?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Heybody, I'm I'm with CR. That's my guy, so y'all. Hey,
I'm I'm Charleston Slash a caller with CR. So y'all
you can mention that.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Too, So okay, Batat.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Absolutely, I think he's actually gonna call it after you,
so he might be on he might be on your mind.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
What do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Wan?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
What's your thoughts? Hey?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Guy? It was a wonderful game. Wonderful game, hey, And
I know you guys already talk doing it. But a
caller call to show you that last night with Mike
and Charlie and he said, jaaling Ramby should have known
the horless composed. But Charlie was trying to splain to him,
that's something you don't do to him, man. You don't
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spit on the man. And I had to and I
had to agree with Charlie's two days. You don't do
them with him, man. You don't spit on them man,
and you don't call a man out of the name.
So I would have did the same thing if I
was jealing Ramsey because that was just great disrespectful right there.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, absolutely, by the way, uh and one, thank you
very much for the call. I gotta I gotta just
jump in quickly. One thing that as a quarterback, which
meant I was flat on my back plenty of times
in the game with somebody over the top of me.
If somebody would lever themselves off of me put their
hand in my chest to stand up. I mean, I
swatted at a number of men a lot larger than
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me doing that. I couldn't stand that. There are certain
things that I just don't think gamesmanship wise, and I mean,
but but you know, there are little things that are annoying.
I don't know how guys keep their composure with somebody
tugging in their jersey all day long. You just have
to learn to live with it. You know, someone's basically
cheating across from you. But that's a step too far. Man,
spinning on somebody. You can't do that, Max, You just
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can't do it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Nope, there's no place for it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that's something that I hope the league will rectify
because it was a completely disrespectful thing to do in
that moment, is you know not and to not catch
it and enforce it. We're talking about the integrity of
the game, and that right there was just a low
integrity moment.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That you know, should should not have a place.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And if you if you're if, if you're looking so
closely at the at this heated battle, you knew what
happened in the previous play when they were together. So
it's like you would think that there's somebody of all
those referees on the field. We got side judges, back judges,
front judges, umpires, in deep judges, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Line referee.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Somebody has an eye in the sky that's right above
it all. How does how does it take a a
off camera second angle after the game to catch that?
And then all of a sudden, oh are bad. But
I was like, you already ejected our player for at
least eject both of them because the extended taunting that
happened afterwards. That's why Jalen couldn't leave the field. Yep,
(27:18):
all right, So there was all of that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So yeah, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'm no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one's no,
one's not on your side here. I don't think Max
understand the you know, the need to have him out
there but again, certain things that are going to draw reaction.
Let's go to CR in Chicago. CR, how you doing today?
Thanks for being with us in the locker room.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Hey, what's going on? Guy?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Say?
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Feeling next to Chicago, live back in the in the
wind the city. Man, I haven't been here for a minute,
a minute in another part of the country, as a
matter of fact. I'm in the southeast and North Carolina, Womanton,
the home of Hotsmith. So but I'm here and I'm
excited to be here. Shout out the one. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
One?
Speaker 8 (27:57):
It's been a minute, man, But hey, you guys is
just wonderful. It was exciting.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I'm back here.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I was at a spot called hop Smith and uh
and it's a location for the original Steelers Club of Chicago.
And we got a big rally coming up this weekend
with Chad Brown, Yancey Taipan, Darren Perry, and Ernie Mills.
So we're gonna be really pumped up about that because
the game is gonna be in Chicago, Uh this coming
weekend too. So, Charlie, has been a minute since I'm Yeah,
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it's been a minister. I talked to you guys, and uh,
I just appreciate, uh that game yesterday. Everybody was into it.
Like I said, there's certain things that the offense must do,
defense must do, whether you're a rookie or whether you
are experienced person on the field. When we do those
six things, the team won and they won big time.
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Yesterday comments.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I thought, I thought it was I thought it was
a great display. I thought it was a great response.
I think that's what it was. When you think about
the way that they that were showing about a week
ago in Los Angeles against the Chargers, and you know,
just came out flat. Everything that could have gone wrong
went wrong. Murphy's Law came into play. And I think
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when you had that long flight back and you have
a week to sit on it, it doesn't sit right
with you. And so I think for the Steelers, they
were like, nah, this this can't be not on my watch, right,
And you saw a intent by the Steelers to go
out and play at a very high level and to
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go out there and prove to everybody, especially in front
of your home crowd, that that's not the team that
we were. And you saw that on display, especially defensively.
Now I know offensively, you know, Aaron, you know, we
lost him at the end of the first half, didn't
come back out in the second half. Obviously, we'll hear
from Mike Tomlin on Tuesday about his status. But I
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thought Mason Rudolph answered the call. I mean, even when
they showed his face on the big screen going into
the into his first huddle for to start the second half,
you heard the cheers in the stadium because he's a
been there, done.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That type of guy for this squad.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And the last time that he took reps in a
live game action that meant something.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Good things happened.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know, Hello, why is Candy Pickett now in his
third team since since the Steelers. It's because of what
Mason Rudolph did and what he can do. He is
a guy who can sling the football, and he can
manage the game, and he knows what to do when
it's time to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And he did exactly that I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then, of course the human Bulldozer aka Toro Mount Washington.
That play down the sideline was absolutely the most beautiful.
That was every fat guy offensive lineman dream. I think
I think the ground was rumbling from all the fat
guys jumping up and down in unison when they saw
what he did to those three defenders for the Cincinnatiers.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
He literally shoved one to the crowd.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
He then butted another one, and then went through the
chest of a third one. It was the most beautiful
display of destruction I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Yeah, when when Mike Tomlin brought him on, when he
came on into the system, I got a picture there
when it said and I got Mike Tomlin saying, hey,
nfu afc Nor, say hello to my little friend, you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Know, Hope.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, absolutely so yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, he was, hey.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Yeah, if you're going to be here next week, man,
you bet you make sure you've bring some overcoats, some jackets,
some long guns and whatever else. Are you gonna be
on the sidelines just coming Saturday Sunday?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, I have now ascended to the booth now c
R so I am in a climate controlled status. But
I will relay the message to Missy and let her
know she used to bundle up extra type.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, oh you like you, Jefferson, move it on up.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Well, I'm not gonna tell you who's Georgia, who's Weezy though,
We're gonna leave that.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
To figure out.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Hey, hey, if you're going to be in town Saturday,
you know, come on over the Hopsmiths. Man, I'm telling
you it's the home of the original Steelers Nation of Chicago.
And man, I tell you I went there yesterday. I
haven't been in Chicago and I don't know about almost
a year, and so to be back here and to
find those places and to find people that I've been
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partying with since nineteen seventeen, excuse me, since twenty seventeen,
it was It was great, man, it was fantastic. So hey,
shout out to getting the water. I'm not gonna take
up too much time. And know there's other people out there,
but Charlie and is a prejudice talking to you guys again.
And as I always say, in the meantime and in
between times, here we go, steal we go.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
He's no longer on the boards. I had to do
that for West.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Thank you very much. We're gonna take your quick break.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
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Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh right, it is the power hower and the bell
laugh is coming up next because I completely forgot that
blank and that's what happens with delirium. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Hey, I sabotaged myself, King, how about that you did
myself sabotaged? I ll wallow in my own in my
own confusion.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I knew you had it. I knew you'd pull it out.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I mean I was, I was Confucius there at the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And uh, the the the journey of this show has
come to an end. We we you know, we don't
begins with a single step up. I'm gonna end with
some phone calls and let's go to Circus George and
Sarasota Circus George, thanks for.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Being with us in the locker room.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Hey, good morning, gents.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well what a statement that was.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
And I'll tell you what, just a few short weeks ago,
I'm thinking, who are we going to beat so we
can get to at least ten wins. I'm looking at
the schedule like geez, a bunch of tough teams coming up,
and then.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We show up.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
We've won two of our last three. I know I'm
going to ignore the other two. But we beat a
divisional winner and a team that had beaten us in
rather convincing fashion. And I'm back there saying, yes, we
can do this, this can be done. Do not hand
the division to Baltimore just yet, even if their schedule
is quote unquote weaker than ours.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I think it can be done.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I think it should be done. I think I think
we could put some long faces in Mudville and Baltimore.
We can just pull off at least four more wins,
at least one of those against Baltimore. Anyways, I was
so encouraged to see the defense make big plays again.
Was I hated Cincinnati smeirt in our face the other
week a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
This was this was redemption. It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
By the way, I.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Agree with everything you're saying. I think that this was
a big win. Got you back on track. We kind
of talked about that circus, George a little bit easier
on now. Look, you got to beat Chicago, right, I
think you know Chicago. You know you play the schedule game. Look,
you can beat anybody in your schedule, but if you
can beat Chicago, you can beat Miami, you can beat Cleveland,
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you split with Baltimore. Your ten wins done.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Hey, Rob, here's a factory for you. The Steelers have
only won once in Chicago, and that was thirty years
ago with Neil o'donald in a shootout. I forget who
the bearrass quarterback. I remember they had Rashaan salam As
at running back at the time, and we had Cordell
Stewart who was a playmaker on offense for US as
a wide receiver slash player. And yeah, neil' donald is
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the only quarterback to win in Chicago for US, and
that was thirty years ago. I think we should have
some modro a couple of those nineteen ninety five Steelers
come to that Bears stadium to just put a little
bit of pool.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
On their game, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Worked for me, Max, What do you think, Max?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I'm all for it. George, I'm all for it. I would.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I went to Chicago twice and I got blank twice,
so I'm definitely in that.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And and I mean, and the one what was it?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I want to say, was it the beginning of the year,
the year we went I can't remember the year but
I remember there was a U two concert the night
before and they had thrown the sod on the field
after the concert ended, and we got out there and
I'll never forget this, Jeffreys taking a warm up like
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swing and a kick and literally a big piece of
the rug of carpet just folded over like it was straight.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, he nine ironed it. But I mean it was
the finest beaver pelt you'd ever seen. I mean, that
was one where you know, it would have been like
Paul Bunyan swinging a nine iron, Like how much turf
flipped over there.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They're like, oh, it's fine, it's fine. And it was
so crappy, was there?
Speaker 9 (38:09):
Our thing about the loss in Chicago, it's almost every
time it's against a lousy Chicago team. Almost every time
its inferior talent wise compared to what we had to offer.
And they found a way somehow. I don't know if
we were just off on that day or they were
particularly on, but it's so frustrating to watch that.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, they won the last they won the last three.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I believe when the Stewers have had the superior team exactly,
you know, in this century, Hey, George, even ninety two.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
We lost to them with I forget if O'Donnell or
Bubby was playing, but they had a crap team and
it was a farewell game for Mike Singletary, and they
rose up for it. They stopped very Foster that day.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
We did nothing zilch circus George.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I don't like the lack of that, the lack of
good memories, but I do like the mojo for the
thirty years ago. Go back the soldier field and pull
one off. We're gonna try to get one more phone
call in here before we hit it, and that is
Griff in Swiss Vale. Griff, thanks very much for being
with us in.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
The locker room.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah, Hi, guys, love your show.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Thanks, Griff, appreciate it. I want to say.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
I'm really happy to see some of the young guys
that are going to be the future, like Harmon and
Black really contributing to the Stout Stout defense, and also
guys that have been on the margins, Like my favorite
thing about yesterday was Echoes and Pierre. If I'm not
mistaken combining on that fumble play, they may be part
of our future and that's a good sign. But I
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got another question that's a little more involved. Okay, I
want to say I love Mike Tomlin, I love Cower,
and I would there's nobody i'd rather have be our coach.
But there's different ways to be coaches. Last week I
heard a long conversation about the nature of Tomlin's conservative coaching,
which I like, but I also believe it actually reflects
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a bigger orientation of the team and the Ruiney family
and the whole entire culture of the region and Pittsburgh area,
and those things are inextricably intertwined. Right, The team and
the culture are all the same, and it's one of
the things that's the biggest strength, makes for consistency and
all kinds.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Of other things.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
You can't build any other way than that kind of foundation.
It's reflected in who they hire and why they hire them,
and the values they emphasize. But sometimes it is light
on the kind of fiery inspiration and motivation and passion,
just like the previous Scholer was saying when the Bears
came together for singletary, right, that goes to another level.
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And some examples are before the Colts game, everybody was
talking about the Ramsey speech, right, and then those guys
came out and it's like, same team, but a whole
different attitude. Yesterday after ironically Ramsey got ejected man the
State and went insane like we're going to make sure
that they pay for this and it and it was again,
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same team, but different attitude. And I'll go all the
way back to Bill Kauer, who was a great coach
and could always build consistently good, solid teams, but couldn't
push it.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Over the top to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Until everybody jumped on the bus, so to speak, for
the you know, the inspiration of that to push him over.
So I'm not saying anybody is slacking or not inspired
and committed. I'm just saying there's a difference between playing
ninety eight percent and playing one hundred and five percent
out of your mind rabbit and running through burning walls. Right,
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So do you think there's something to this that the
kind of coaching that makes for consistent foundation building is
not always the same coaching that inspires that kind of
fire and passion that you need in the big games,
because all the teams are good then and then it's
the passion that pushes you over.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Griff, thank you very much for the call. By the way,
I think it's a really interesting time. The region, to
the to the to the to the Steelers team inextricably.
I'm not sure it's quite that inextricable, but I think
it's it's certainly I hadn't thought about it quite to
that degree that Griff just brought it up. But you
played for Mike Tomlin, you played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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What do you say to Griff's uh sort of assertions
there about the the emotion.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
For the team.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think the emotional status, I think, you know, as
a natural thing. I don't think a coach can really
bring that. And I said this yesterday in the pre
broadcast with Jerry Dulac and Mike Persuda, and I simply said,
if you don't know what this game means, you don't
need to be wearing a jersey and that and that
comes down to your own personal mental state and understanding
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the temperature of the room, reading the room, and a
coach can only go so far with getting you their
passionate wise, if you don't have it in you and
you need need somebody else to motivate you, especially for
that game yesterday, after what you knew you went through
a couple of weeks ago in Cincinnati, and to win
it and then lose it again at the end of
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it in a key moment, and you don't feel something,
especially defensively, how how much you gave up. You let
Jamar Chase have a career day that day, Joe Flacco
had another, you know, fine performance, and you allowed them
to score thirty points on you.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
But defensively, you know, the one of the league's.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Worst defenses, historically bad defenses, and you allowed them to
keep you in check and turn you over twice. If
you didn't have a certain fire in your belly, then
you don't need to be You don't need to be
wearing the helmet, you don't need to be putting on
the jersey. You just need to put on the sweats.
You know, probably grab you some some hot cocoa out
of the locker room and sit and just enjoy the
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great seat that you're given if you're on this team.
But if you had your health, you should have had
that thing locked in extra tight. I wanted two mouthpieces.
Don't give me one. I need two because I'm that
pissed off and this is the only thing that's going
to restrain me right now, that's the mentality you had
to have coming out in this game. And I believe
they came with that fervor on their own, and then
Mike Tomlin just simply accentuates that at that moment. But
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every man, you have to have that internal combustion inside
of you and you can't expect somebody else to be
the catalyst for your success.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
He's Max Stark's Justin Miller at the controls. I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
We thank you for calling in, We thank you for listening.
The Steelers defeat the Cincinnati Bengals. They wind up with
a dominating lopsided score at the end, thirty four to
twelve to improve to six and four, knock the Bengals
to three and seven. Well more on this game, and
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, that was optimistic.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what that means.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is the power our hour number two here inside
the locker room. And and King, did you did you
smell that when he drove by? It smelled like a
Victory donut donut Monday. It is indeed, I know we
waited an hour before we talked about it, but today
is the Victory Donut Monday. So I encourage all of
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Steelers to go out there and post your victory donuts
on this lovely Monday. We've gotten some great pictures, you know,
this season from different various Victory donut Mondays. We've also
had Victory pancakes as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Anything that you know you have to wish together and
make flour and batter it, fry it, cook it however.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're we're we're okay, We're not We're not true sticklers
to the letter of the law. We just want you
to enjoy something indulgent, sweet, and and taste good because
we know that we will, and so we want to
share that love with you as well. And you know,
I I realized I need to do a better job
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king full disclosure here before we get into this. I've
misplaced my Victory Donut Monday shirt and I am I
am sad. I can't find it. I have a Victory
Monday shirt that I got years ago, but I really
had a thing for and you know what it was.
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I packed it being facetious during the packers week when
we had the Sunday night game. I was gonna wear
it in the studio on Monday because I thought we
were gonna win, and we didn't. And now I have
misplaced it somewhere in my closet and I have like
like I have like the little three hamper thingy, you know,
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for my clothes to separate it, and it's piled up
high because I have not done laundry. I have to
be full disclosure here. So because I have living out
of a suitcase, I got to find it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I got a question for you, Max, And I
think people want to know this. Can you roll into
your local Macy's or whatever and get a T shirt?
So I am I am six foot, I used to
be six to one.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I'm shrinking. I think justin uh and two pounds maybe
more like.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Two o five or two.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Anyway, I get an extra large T shirt because a
large doesn't fit me.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, So what can you get one at a store?
Do you have to order them specially?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, there's there's this there's this great store that's create
It's called Destination XCEL or DXL.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Okay, so you can't go to the local store, You've
got to go to amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, Dillard's I could probably go in. Dillard's has a
big and tall section. Okay, so I can't go into Dillard's.
But will they have something I like outside of like
Polo Ralph Lauren Polo.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Not a lot of options there for big guys.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Uh So you know, well, I should say that fits
my tastes and my preferences.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
They do have stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That if I was going on vacation and just wanted
to look loud and look like a tourist, definitely full
full display. But a Destination XL or DXL is my
one stop shop for all things Max.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I have to tell you, so, I have large feet,
and I think what's happened over the years is the
reason I've gone from six to one to sixteen. You have, Okay, yeah, no, no, no,
we're getting there, but I'm we got a little preamble
going here, so uh you know, I think what's happened
is gravity. It's taken its toll, right like I used
to just I should just get thirteen's all the time.
(04:23):
By the way, for many years, I was a legitimate
twelve and a half. Guess when they stopped making half sizes.
Eleven and a half is the last one. They're basically saying,
look here, Bozo the clown, if you got big feet,
too bad, right, And then I became like a Now
I'm like a thirteen and a half, right, so I'll
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wear a thirteen shoe, but a thirteen sneakers too small.
So now I have to get a fourteen sneaker, which
is a little too big, and nobody cares. The world
doesn't care, Max, The world doesn't care about how they
get you get to a certain point, and they're like, look, man,
either either join the circus or where we got for you,
that's it. Now for you, that's a little bit different deal.
(05:05):
Are you in the Are you in a half size
mode with your size nineteen?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'm gonna guess it's eighteen or nineteen depending eighteen?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Okay, now could you eighteen and a half? Would an
eighteen and a half be a nice fit for you?
The world doesn't care, Max, But I'm just asking you
a question because obviously the world doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It might but we'll never know, because, like you said,
once you get past a certain size, they don't they're
not really checking for half sizes.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
No, they're not.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And I think that's for the large twitter among us.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and they're like there's and there's usually only one
or two shoes on a website.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
The selection winnows down for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, once you get that high.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's just because sixteen, fifteen and sixteen is the cutoff,
like in stores right right, And even then it's like
I remember back in the day when they actually did
have like some eighties, but this was this was like
just for feet. This was a random foot locker. It
wasn't at the same foot locker every time. You kind
of had to go on a scavenger hunt. To figure
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out if they had and then it was like a
shoe that was like four years old that was like
had dust on the box that They're like, oh, we
never thought anybody would would would come here and request
this size shoe. We had it here for It's like
it's always like you say, we had this here for
profile and purposes, you know, if you ask for this shoe.
And you know, I'm trying to remember the last time
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I've gone into a store.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And requested a shoe and got it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And the last time was Freedman's of Atlanta, which I
believe is now out of business. Freedman's of Atlanta was
a large sized shoe store been there forever.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, I've been shopping. You have to think about this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've been shopping there, Kinger, since I was twelve years old.
That's how long I I have. I have been in
this in this uh you know, oversized shoe sized world
since a kid. Uh, you know, I've been shopping and
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I had the same salesmen there for almost twenty five years.
And uh and Marty and you know, and of course,
you know, COVID happened just like everything else, and you know,
time times were tough, and so a lot of a
lot of layoffs, and then of course a lot of
places closing, you know, after COVID, those rising costs and everything,
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and so I was kind of without. So I was
I was the guy shopping on random, random websites and
just ordering shoes and then having to send them back
if they didn't fit right, because I couldn't really check
and I didn't know, and you know, I wasn't familiar
with the website. And listen, these websites weren't hard to find,
by the way, they were the most like it was.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It was like large feet dot.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Com, large shoes dot com, big feet dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So it was like, you know, that's where I had
to shop for my shoes. And then all of a sudden,
a couple of months ago, Marty text me. And you know,
he always texted me Birthday, Father's Day, all those things, right,
because we've just we've got a relationship.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
He's he's literally seen me since I've.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Been a middle schooler, right, and and when and when
I was in the pros and when we play in Atlanta,
i'd always take the offensive line with me. We would
always go shoe shopping there. It was there, and Tories
would have a limited amount in Philadelphia. So if we
were in Philly or we were in Atlanta, we would
always go do a trip a gay you know, a
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game weekends when we got into town on Saturday, and
we go shoe shopping or go close shopping at in
those two cities. And Marty, Marty had just started his
new own company because he'd been doing it for so
long that was his skill set, right, So and he
had he had this new company, and now I have
business casual shoes. I was wearing him yesterday, king heer
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UH business casual shoes, and I was like, oh my god,
this is something I never thought I'd be in that category.
It was either have to wear sneakers or you're just
wearing old school like loafers and and tie leather dress shoes,
hard bottom dress shoes. And man, it felt if I
felt special to UH to get those shoes and for
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for for UH for Father's Day. Also want Kelvin Beacham listen.
Kelvin's like my little brother man. I love I love Kelvin.
Kelvin is one of the greatest human beings around. Kelvin
got me a custom pair of UH of casual sneakers
to wear with suits and stuff like that. And Kelvin
spared no expense though he got me these Zanias, and
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I was like, oh my god. It came in this
personal like custom box and everything, and I was just like,
because for so long I couldn't I couldn't wear business casual.
They didn't have the business casual sneaker shoe for for
my foot size, and so I was I was just
over the moon that now I'm in. I'm in this
whole new category. Just like you're watching Pluribus now and
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feeling like you're hipping young.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The rest of the crew.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I feel like I feel like I feel like I'm
now coming up to the twenty first century and being hip,
hippy young with everybody else by having a business casual
sneaker that's not a hard bottom shoe when I want
to dress.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
A little more formal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So, by the way, the plurbis dig just like dig
by maxiull. It was observation, so uh I think it
was uh whatever our syar there's crew. Everything was out
like Valencia. I said, Hey, how is it? How is
that rocky? The underneath?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Is it nice?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Age?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm the only one underneath there, you know, the pop culture, like,
I don't know Morgan Walling is coming. I don't know
a single Morgan Wallen song. I don't know a single
tail Or Swift song. I'm just you know, but I'm
watching Pluribus and apparently either who's at yeah, either one
of their confused her with Daryl Lamonica, the old Oakland
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Raiders quarterback back when they were back in Oakland.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
No, don't know who that is?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
And who was the who's the big ticket item?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Tate McGregor, Tate McCrae.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Tate McCrae, I was close.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Connor McGregor is a former.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Uh you know, UFC fighter, And I don't know where
another Tate except for Tate McCrae.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, Okay, anyway, I'm I'm on Pluribus and I feel
like I'm I feel like I'm good because none of
the rest of the crew has watched it, all of
whom are considerably younger than I am.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
So there's there. There was the Pluribus reference. Let us
circle back, let us stomp our way.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Back, bigfooted to yesterday's Steelers victory over the Bengals, and
you know, one of the things that struck me was, well,
a couple of things. You know, you win the turnover
battle again. That has been a constant in Steelers victories.
The only game in which they haven't won the turnover
battle was even against Cleveland. Every other game is Steelers
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have won, They've won the turnover battle. Every time they've
lost the turnover battle, they've lost the game. They were
even against the Browns. I just mentioned in two and
two against Seattle though again that the kickoff that was
recovered in the end zone is not technically a turnover
if you count that as a turnover to the free
seven points. You lost the turnover battle on that one too,
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So you won the turnover battle, not only by you know,
getting turnovers, which is a big part of it, but
not turning the ball over, which has been a problem.
Other than that, it just this felt like and yes,
Kyle Duger had had the you know, the interception returned
for a touchdown. He was a star for sure. James Pierre,
you know, kind of emerging, that's been a great story.
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This just felt like a solid team victory to me.
You know, you see you turn on the Browns game yesterday,
if they'd won, we'd all we'd be talking about is
the four sacks Miles Garrett had. But I just felt
like Max, Yeah, there were some guys that maybe stood
out a little bit, but it just just felt like
a very solid team victory to me for this students,
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which is a really good kind of victory to have
when you're starting to think about the tough games coming
up on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, it is, and I think that that's kind of
where you have to be now. I know TJ made
the comment, we don't want to be a team that
has to, you know, live and die by having, you know,
the turnover be the difference, but listen, if it is
something that makes the difference, that listen, by any means
necessary is how you win. I'm here for it because
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I think that's just a differentiated This team is so
much better when we get that turnover opportunity. And I'm
just so excited that, you know, we can be able
to do that because we have a great record. When
we get a turnover, good things happen to our squad.
And I think that's what people have to kind of understand,
is that we are a team that takes full advantage
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when there is a turnover that's involved defensively or offensively, well,
I should say offensively. It leads to an offensive possession,
is how I should how I should.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Word that, and we do the job.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And I think any team that is tenacious and can
get the ball turned over and get it in their favor,
you've got to take full advantage of those opportunities and
be a squad that's ready to react. And I think
we respond well when things are sluggish or things are
kind of stalemate like they were yesterday. You need that catalyst,
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either it's a big return, something that flips the field.
You need those field flipping moments, and yesterday to have
two of those and to not even have to put
the offense on the field because the defense did the job. Now,
that puts a lot of stress on the defense, right,
because that can also hurt your time and position. That's
eventually what you know, what hurts our total plays? Right,
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While we haven't won it, but when you when you
get two and five and three, you know, turnovers, yeah, yeah,
you're gonna have the you have to deal with with
the fallout of that, you know, and be more efficient.
Your defense has to be in better shape to be
able to combat that. But it is such is such
a huge boost to everybody's morale, and I think that's
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what I was really excited about, was just the morale
boost that it provided.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Agreed Steelers win a big game. For the Steelers to
have won yesterday, that was you know, look six and four,
the Bengals in a world are hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It feels very much like a Steelers Ravens AFC North battle.
We're going to get into that a little bit as
we take a trip around the AFC and take a
look at what the Ravens have on their schedule prior
to meeting the Steelers. I don't see any losses on
that schedule for the Ravens, but we'll get to that
coming up in just a little bit.
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Speaker 4 (17:02):
And it is time for our AFC Recap, which we're
going to do kind of piecemeal because we do have
some phone calls we want to get to. The AFC
Recap is presented by UPMC, the official healthcare provider and
health plan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I want to start
with one particular game because the Baltimore Ravens are coming up,
and it's not going to be long before the Steelers
and the Ravens are facing off against each other. And man,
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was I rooting for the Browns yesterday and the Ravens
were able to come back after a first half deficit
and defeat the Cleveland Browns twenty three to sixteen. And
when you look at the Ravens, so now they've won
four in a row, right, And I was looking at
their schedule last night. So this is basically what the
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Ravens have done and what I think they're going to
do leading up to the Steelers. So these are the
good teams they've played, the top notch teams or the
quality teams that they've played. Buffalo lost, Detroit lost. Now
Buffalo appoint to Buffalo eight points to Detroit. Then you know,
some injuries, but they lost by seventeen at Kansas City.
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Then Jackson gets hurt, they lose by thirty four to Houston.
They lose by fourteen to the Rams. Then after the
bye they get healthy and they beat Chicago up next
for the Steelers, a the first place team, so against
you know, quality opponents, opponents that are in the playoff
picture are lurking around the playoff picture. They're one and
five against teams that aren't in that category. Cleveland they
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beat twice, Minnesota once, Miami once. They are four and
oh and so overall they're five and zero. I believe
they'll beat the Jets at home. I believe they'll beat
Cincinnati at home. I believe they will be seven and
five when they play a third consecutive road game, our
third consecutive home game against the Steelers on the seventh
of December. Then they'll finish up and it gets a
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little more tricky for him at Cincinnati, they host New England,
They're at Green Bay, then they're at Pittsburgh. But it's
a team certainly that is going to have to be
reckoned with. They've got a lot of their tough games
behind them. They haven't won a lot of tough games
in my opinion thus far. The Bears are the best team,
without question, that they've beaten this season. So it's an
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interesting Ravens team, and it's a team keeping pace with
the Steelers and the only one game behind. And I
believe it's going to be a seven and five team
that's going to be hosting the Steelers on December seventh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, no, I think I think it will be as well,
like you said, unless something like crazy happens.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Uh, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't see them losing steam. And it's a team
that you know is gonna be going to be on
a very sizable win streak as well, and their confidence
is building and they're they you know, they're starting to
get healthy, whereas that defense was was in shambles at
the beginning of the season and then injuries were taking
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left and right. Now they're healthy the right time, So
this is going to be, you know, a big push.
And this is also the next test for this defense.
That was a symbol this this team was when we
think about this defense construction at the end of the season, right,
it was we had to build this defense to combat
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Cincinnati and Baltimore. You wanted to stop the running. He
had to stop two very good receivers in the league
in tandem, and first time didn't have as good of
a result as we would have liked. But the second
time around, this was why you want now I did now.
It didn't construct the original way that they anticipated, but
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we got to it right. You know, who would have
known that we would have had to go out and
get a Kyle Duggar for the safety position, and that
would have made the difference. We knew what Jalen Ramsey
was going to be, We knew he was versatile, knew
he had capabilities of doing multiple things. We saw it
in training camp. But who would have known that free
safety would have been the spot that we needed him
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the most at. And I think that was kind of
one of the big like oh wow moments for us.
Was okay, and then of course, like you said, James
Pierre being in and out of the lineups, in and
out of practice squad, for this squad, for this team,
he was also a difference maker as well. But you
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knew what you were getting with Brandon Eckles, you knew
what you were getting with Darius Slay. That's why you
went and I did them early in free agency. And
then of course the draft picks Ya Black, Derek Harmon
doing their job they had. They had a lot of
rotation today they made they made some nice plays in
the run game and especially pressure on the quarterback as well.
Jack Sawyer has has has been really good as well.
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So this this is what they were designed for. You know,
this is why you bring over you read Rover Malik
Harrison from Baltimore, two pits to combat Baltimore. And so
it's gonna be really interesting to see when we get
that tilt and we start the one of two against
the Ravens come December seventh. You know how we will
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manage Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry in that backfield and
of course an upgraded passing game with new receivers for them,
how are we going to handle those guys is going
to be key. And this is that test. This was
why you built this defense. So that's going to be
the big you know, Buddy Lee Dungarees can't bust them,
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Let's see if they can't bust you know, to see
if they can bust the Ravens, right, because that was
a problem, you know, a year ago, and it was
it was not pretty, especially when we saw him at
the end of the season and then of course when
we saw him in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And by the way, in case you're wondering about that
rush defense, the Steelers are facing six of the top
seven rushing defense is in the NFL. This season didn't
go well against the Jets, who sitting number five. They
did a great job against Indianapolis at number three. Still
coming still on the horizon, Buffalo, number one in the league,
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Chicago this week, number two in the league. Baltimore even
without Lamar, they're fourth in the league, and you still
have to take on Detroit they're seventh in the league.
So this rush defense is definitely going to get tested
over the next five or six games are thereabouts, and
of course in the season finale against Baltimore as well.
Let's get to the phone lines and let us join
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one in Chicago one, thanks very much for being with us.
I'm one in South Carolina, Chicago. Sorry, cr we have
one in South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
How you doing one?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hey, good morning guys. I got doing good.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Good morning, doing good. One.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Of course, a victory donut Monday and we are here,
and I know, you know our buddy Wolf. You don't
get the clown him about the scale anymore, which is
a sad day because you know, we always used to
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
I know, I think about think about my guy every day.
I miss my guy. So like you said, I'm going
to get a victory doing it Monday for him and
enjoy it and just remember this how he would have
talked about doing it when I call it radio station.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Absolutely absolutely, Why was all what's all with your mind today? Bud?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Heybody, I'm I'm with CR. That's my guy, so y'all. Hey,
I'm I'm Charleston Slash a caller with CR. So y'all
you can mention that.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Too, So okay, Batat.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Absolutely, I think he's actually gonna call it after you,
so he might be on he might be on your mind.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
What do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Wan?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
What's your thoughts? Hey?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Guy? It was a wonderful game. Wonderful game, hey, And
I know you guys already talk doing it. But a
caller call to show you that last night with Mike
and Charlie and he said, jaaling Ramby should have known
the horless composed. But Charlie was trying to splain to him,
that's something you don't do to him, man. You don't
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spit on the man. And I had to and I
had to agree with Charlie's two days. You don't do
them with him, man. You don't spit on them man,
and you don't call a man out of the name.
So I would have did the same thing if I
was jealing Ramsey because that was just great disrespectful right there.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, absolutely, by the way, uh and one, thank you
very much for the call. I gotta I gotta just
jump in quickly. One thing that as a quarterback, which
meant I was flat on my back plenty of times
in the game with somebody over the top of me.
If somebody would lever themselves off of me put their
hand in my chest to stand up. I mean, I
swatted at a number of men a lot larger than
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me doing that. I couldn't stand that. There are certain
things that I just don't think gamesmanship wise, and I mean,
but but you know, there are little things that are annoying.
I don't know how guys keep their composure with somebody
tugging in their jersey all day long. You just have
to learn to live with it. You know, someone's basically
cheating across from you. But that's a step too far. Man,
spinning on somebody. You can't do that, Max, You just
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can't do it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Nope, there's no place for it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that's something that I hope the league will rectify
because it was a completely disrespectful thing to do in
that moment, is you know not and to not catch
it and enforce it. We're talking about the integrity of
the game, and that right there was just a low
integrity moment.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That you know, should should not have a place.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And if you if you're if, if you're looking so
closely at the at this heated battle, you knew what
happened in the previous play when they were together. So
it's like you would think that there's somebody of all
those referees on the field. We got side judges, back judges,
front judges, umpires, in deep judges, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Line referee.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Somebody has an eye in the sky that's right above
it all. How does how does it take a a
off camera second angle after the game to catch that?
And then all of a sudden, oh are bad. But
I was like, you already ejected our player for at
least eject both of them because the extended taunting that
happened afterwards. That's why Jalen couldn't leave the field. Yep,
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all right, So there was all of that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So yeah, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'm no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one's no,
one's not on your side here. I don't think Max
understand the you know, the need to have him out
there but again, certain things that are going to draw reaction.
Let's go to CR in Chicago. CR, how you doing today?
Thanks for being with us in the locker room.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Hey, what's going on? Guy?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Say?
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Feeling next to Chicago, live back in the in the
wind the city. Man, I haven't been here for a minute,
a minute in another part of the country, as a
matter of fact. I'm in the southeast and North Carolina, Womanton,
the home of Hotsmith. So but I'm here and I'm
excited to be here. Shout out the one. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
One?
Speaker 8 (27:57):
It's been a minute, man, But hey, you guys is
just wonderful. It was exciting.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I'm back here.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I was at a spot called hop Smith and uh
and it's a location for the original Steelers Club of Chicago.
And we got a big rally coming up this weekend
with Chad Brown, Yancey Taipan, Darren Perry, and Ernie Mills.
So we're gonna be really pumped up about that because
the game is gonna be in Chicago, Uh this coming
weekend too. So, Charlie, has been a minute since I'm Yeah,
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it's been a minister. I talked to you guys, and uh,
I just appreciate, uh that game yesterday. Everybody was into it.
Like I said, there's certain things that the offense must do,
defense must do, whether you're a rookie or whether you
are experienced person on the field. When we do those
six things, the team won and they won big time.
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Yesterday comments.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I thought, I thought it was I thought it was
a great display. I thought it was a great response.
I think that's what it was. When you think about
the way that they that were showing about a week
ago in Los Angeles against the Chargers, and you know,
just came out flat. Everything that could have gone wrong
went wrong. Murphy's Law came into play. And I think
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when you had that long flight back and you have
a week to sit on it, it doesn't sit right
with you. And so I think for the Steelers, they
were like, nah, this this can't be not on my watch, right,
And you saw a intent by the Steelers to go
out and play at a very high level and to
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go out there and prove to everybody, especially in front
of your home crowd, that that's not the team that
we were. And you saw that on display, especially defensively.
Now I know offensively, you know, Aaron, you know, we
lost him at the end of the first half, didn't
come back out in the second half. Obviously, we'll hear
from Mike Tomlin on Tuesday about his status. But I
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thought Mason Rudolph answered the call. I mean, even when
they showed his face on the big screen going into
the into his first huddle for to start the second half,
you heard the cheers in the stadium because he's a
been there, done.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That type of guy for this squad.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And the last time that he took reps in a
live game action that meant something.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Good things happened.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know, Hello, why is Candy Pickett now in his
third team since since the Steelers. It's because of what
Mason Rudolph did and what he can do. He is
a guy who can sling the football, and he can
manage the game, and he knows what to do when
it's time to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And he did exactly that I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then, of course the human Bulldozer aka Toro Mount Washington.
That play down the sideline was absolutely the most beautiful.
That was every fat guy offensive lineman dream. I think
I think the ground was rumbling from all the fat
guys jumping up and down in unison when they saw
what he did to those three defenders for the Cincinnatiers.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
He literally shoved one to the crowd.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
He then butted another one, and then went through the
chest of a third one. It was the most beautiful
display of destruction I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Yeah, when when Mike Tomlin brought him on, when he
came on into the system, I got a picture there
when it said and I got Mike Tomlin saying, hey,
nfu afc Nor, say hello to my little friend, you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Know, Hope.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, absolutely so yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, he was, hey.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Yeah, if you're going to be here next week, man,
you bet you make sure you've bring some overcoats, some jackets,
some long guns and whatever else. Are you gonna be
on the sidelines just coming Saturday Sunday?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, I have now ascended to the booth now c
R so I am in a climate controlled status. But
I will relay the message to Missy and let her
know she used to bundle up extra type.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, oh you like you, Jefferson, move it on up.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Well, I'm not gonna tell you who's Georgia, who's Weezy though,
We're gonna leave that.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
To figure out.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Hey, hey, if you're going to be in town Saturday,
you know, come on over the Hopsmiths. Man, I'm telling
you it's the home of the original Steelers Nation of Chicago.
And man, I tell you I went there yesterday. I
haven't been in Chicago and I don't know about almost
a year, and so to be back here and to
find those places and to find people that I've been
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partying with since nineteen seventeen, excuse me, since twenty seventeen,
it was It was great, man, it was fantastic. So hey,
shout out to getting the water. I'm not gonna take
up too much time. And know there's other people out there,
but Charlie and is a prejudice talking to you guys again.
And as I always say, in the meantime and in
between times, here we go, steal we go.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
He's no longer on the boards. I had to do
that for West.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Thank you very much. We're gonna take your quick break.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
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Speaker 1 (33:57):
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Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh right, it is the power hower and the bell
laugh is coming up next because I completely forgot that
blank and that's what happens with delirium. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Hey, I sabotaged myself, King, how about that you did
myself sabotaged? I ll wallow in my own in my
own confusion.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I knew you had it. I knew you'd pull it out.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I mean I was, I was Confucius there at the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And uh, the the the journey of this show has
come to an end. We we you know, we don't
begins with a single step up. I'm gonna end with
some phone calls and let's go to Circus George and
Sarasota Circus George, thanks for.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Being with us in the locker room.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Hey, good morning, gents.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well what a statement that was.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
And I'll tell you what, just a few short weeks ago,
I'm thinking, who are we going to beat so we
can get to at least ten wins. I'm looking at
the schedule like geez, a bunch of tough teams coming up,
and then.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We show up.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
We've won two of our last three. I know I'm
going to ignore the other two. But we beat a
divisional winner and a team that had beaten us in
rather convincing fashion. And I'm back there saying, yes, we
can do this, this can be done. Do not hand
the division to Baltimore just yet, even if their schedule
is quote unquote weaker than ours.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I think it can be done.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I think it should be done. I think I think
we could put some long faces in Mudville and Baltimore.
We can just pull off at least four more wins,
at least one of those against Baltimore. Anyways, I was
so encouraged to see the defense make big plays again.
Was I hated Cincinnati smeirt in our face the other
week a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
This was this was redemption. It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
By the way, I.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Agree with everything you're saying. I think that this was
a big win. Got you back on track. We kind
of talked about that circus, George a little bit easier
on now. Look, you got to beat Chicago, right, I
think you know Chicago. You know you play the schedule game. Look,
you can beat anybody in your schedule, but if you
can beat Chicago, you can beat Miami, you can beat Cleveland,
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you split with Baltimore. Your ten wins done.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Hey, Rob, here's a factory for you. The Steelers have
only won once in Chicago, and that was thirty years
ago with Neil o'donald in a shootout. I forget who
the bearrass quarterback. I remember they had Rashaan salam As
at running back at the time, and we had Cordell
Stewart who was a playmaker on offense for US as
a wide receiver slash player. And yeah, neil' donald is
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the only quarterback to win in Chicago for US, and
that was thirty years ago. I think we should have
some modro a couple of those nineteen ninety five Steelers
come to that Bears stadium to just put a little
bit of pool.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
On their game, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Worked for me, Max, What do you think, Max?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I'm all for it. George, I'm all for it. I would.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I went to Chicago twice and I got blank twice,
so I'm definitely in that.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And and I mean, and the one what was it?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I want to say, was it the beginning of the year,
the year we went I can't remember the year but
I remember there was a U two concert the night
before and they had thrown the sod on the field
after the concert ended, and we got out there and
I'll never forget this, Jeffreys taking a warm up like
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swing and a kick and literally a big piece of
the rug of carpet just folded over like it was straight.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, he nine ironed it. But I mean it was
the finest beaver pelt you'd ever seen. I mean, that
was one where you know, it would have been like
Paul Bunyan swinging a nine iron, Like how much turf
flipped over there.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They're like, oh, it's fine, it's fine. And it was
so crappy, was there?
Speaker 9 (38:09):
Our thing about the loss in Chicago, it's almost every
time it's against a lousy Chicago team. Almost every time
its inferior talent wise compared to what we had to offer.
And they found a way somehow. I don't know if
we were just off on that day or they were
particularly on, but it's so frustrating to watch that.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, they won the last they won the last three.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I believe when the Stewers have had the superior team exactly,
you know, in this century, Hey, George, even ninety two.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
We lost to them with I forget if O'Donnell or
Bubby was playing, but they had a crap team and
it was a farewell game for Mike Singletary, and they
rose up for it. They stopped very Foster that day.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
We did nothing zilch circus George.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I don't like the lack of that, the lack of
good memories, but I do like the mojo for the
thirty years ago. Go back the soldier field and pull
one off. We're gonna try to get one more phone
call in here before we hit it, and that is
Griff in Swiss Vale. Griff, thanks very much for being
with us in.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
The locker room.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah, Hi, guys, love your show.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Thanks, Griff, appreciate it. I want to say.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
I'm really happy to see some of the young guys
that are going to be the future, like Harmon and
Black really contributing to the Stout Stout defense, and also
guys that have been on the margins, Like my favorite
thing about yesterday was Echoes and Pierre. If I'm not
mistaken combining on that fumble play, they may be part
of our future and that's a good sign. But I
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got another question that's a little more involved. Okay, I
want to say I love Mike Tomlin, I love Cower,
and I would there's nobody i'd rather have be our coach.
But there's different ways to be coaches. Last week I
heard a long conversation about the nature of Tomlin's conservative coaching,
which I like, but I also believe it actually reflects
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a bigger orientation of the team and the Ruiney family
and the whole entire culture of the region and Pittsburgh area,
and those things are inextricably intertwined. Right, The team and
the culture are all the same, and it's one of
the things that's the biggest strength, makes for consistency and
all kinds.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Of other things.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
You can't build any other way than that kind of foundation.
It's reflected in who they hire and why they hire them,
and the values they emphasize. But sometimes it is light
on the kind of fiery inspiration and motivation and passion,
just like the previous Scholer was saying when the Bears
came together for singletary, right, that goes to another level.
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And some examples are before the Colts game, everybody was
talking about the Ramsey speech, right, and then those guys
came out and it's like, same team, but a whole
different attitude. Yesterday after ironically Ramsey got ejected man the
State and went insane like we're going to make sure
that they pay for this and it and it was again,
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same team, but different attitude. And I'll go all the
way back to Bill Kauer, who was a great coach
and could always build consistently good, solid teams, but couldn't
push it.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Over the top to a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Until everybody jumped on the bus, so to speak, for
the you know, the inspiration of that to push him over.
So I'm not saying anybody is slacking or not inspired
and committed. I'm just saying there's a difference between playing
ninety eight percent and playing one hundred and five percent
out of your mind rabbit and running through burning walls. Right,
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So do you think there's something to this that the
kind of coaching that makes for consistent foundation building is
not always the same coaching that inspires that kind of
fire and passion that you need in the big games,
because all the teams are good then and then it's
the passion that pushes you over.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Griff, thank you very much for the call. By the way,
I think it's a really interesting time. The region, to
the to the to the to the Steelers team inextricably.
I'm not sure it's quite that inextricable, but I think
it's it's certainly I hadn't thought about it quite to
that degree that Griff just brought it up. But you
played for Mike Tomlin, you played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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What do you say to Griff's uh sort of assertions
there about the the emotion.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
For the team.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think the emotional status, I think, you know, as
a natural thing. I don't think a coach can really
bring that. And I said this yesterday in the pre
broadcast with Jerry Dulac and Mike Persuda, and I simply said,
if you don't know what this game means, you don't
need to be wearing a jersey and that and that
comes down to your own personal mental state and understanding
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the temperature of the room, reading the room, and a
coach can only go so far with getting you their
passionate wise, if you don't have it in you and
you need need somebody else to motivate you, especially for
that game yesterday, after what you knew you went through
a couple of weeks ago in Cincinnati, and to win
it and then lose it again at the end of
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it in a key moment, and you don't feel something,
especially defensively, how how much you gave up. You let
Jamar Chase have a career day that day, Joe Flacco
had another, you know, fine performance, and you allowed them
to score thirty points on you.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
But defensively, you know, the one of the league's.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Worst defenses, historically bad defenses, and you allowed them to
keep you in check and turn you over twice. If
you didn't have a certain fire in your belly, then
you don't need to be You don't need to be
wearing the helmet, you don't need to be putting on
the jersey. You just need to put on the sweats.
You know, probably grab you some some hot cocoa out
of the locker room and sit and just enjoy the
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great seat that you're given if you're on this team.
But if you had your health, you should have had
that thing locked in extra tight. I wanted two mouthpieces.
Don't give me one. I need two because I'm that
pissed off and this is the only thing that's going
to restrain me right now, that's the mentality you had
to have coming out in this game. And I believe
they came with that fervor on their own, and then
Mike Tomlin just simply accentuates that at that moment. But
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every man, you have to have that internal combustion inside
of you and you can't expect somebody else to be
the catalyst for your success.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
He's Max Stark's Justin Miller at the controls. I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
We thank you for calling in, We thank you for listening.
The Steelers defeat the Cincinnati Bengals. They wind up with
a dominating lopsided score at the end, thirty four to
twelve to improve to six and four, knock the Bengals
to three and seven. Well more on this game, and
of course we'll preview the game coming up against the
Bears throughout the rest of the week in the Locker Room,
presented by our neighborhood Ford Stour and this year Ish
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