October 7, 2025 • 44 mins
Bob Labriola joins the show, and Rob and Max continue to discuss headlines around the league as the focus changes to the Browns for the black and gold
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 4 (01:19):
So Labs we were talking. First of all, I hope
you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Pretty good? As I was saying to Justin and your
producer before we came on, I wish it was another
bye week. I really I got to like that really quick.
That was nice last week.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, you know what, Labs, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
From February eighth until late July, I will give you
roughly twenty two bye weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you, you're welcome. I'll pass that along when to
my superiors.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, that and remember you remember who told you
to take those off? Rob King is called m A
X S T so German. It's German.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, great, great information here about undefeated teams. And we
talk about this a lot. You know, I think you
just stacked the wins, you know, in the first whatever
portion of the season, first quarter, first third of the season.
Then you begin to get an identity maybe through the
middle to latter stage of the season, and then hopefully
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you're healthy and peaking come playoff times. Now, that's clearly
not a one size fits all sort of thing, but
it's kind of the way I sort of vaguely look
at the season, and on these statistics you shared with us,
the last undefeated team in an NFL season, there's no
more undefeated teams left. The last one to win a
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Super Bowl was the two thousand and six Colts two
thousand and six. The Chiefs started nine to zer last year,
lost in the Super Bowl. The Packers started thirteen and
oh in twenty and eleven and lost in the Divisional round.
You have to go back to the two thousand and
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six Colts to find that the last undefeated team in
the NFL to win the Super Bowl, which I think
just underscores what we're talking about. I mean, early season
success is great. You'd rather have it than not have it.
I would take my chances being the last undefeated team,
but it is absolutely zero guaranteur of success in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can look around at
you know, some of the now that we're in October,
look at some of the you know, past septembers, you know,
the you know, the best team in the league at
the end of September. I think at one point in Steptember,
the Chargers thought that they were up there, right, you know,
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I don't know that, you know, I'm not saying that
they're done or anything, but I don't think that they
are now being pointed to as a team that is
a I don't even know if they're considered a Super
Bowl contender anymore. Not that that matters, but I'm my
point is is that you know, the NFL is very
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much a week to week league, and certainly the league
kind of resets itself every three or four weeks. And
so you know what we thought was, you know, a
certainty in early September, like, gee, I don't know, look
at the Ravens and how they run the ball. Who's
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going to ever stop that offense? Now people are talking
about the Ravens could be eliminated when they if they
lose next this coming Sunday to the Los Angeles Rams.
So you know, things change a lot. Injuries have so
much to do with it, and when you play teams
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is also a big factor. You know, when you when
you happen when a certain team happens to come up
on your schedule, you know, whether that team is healthy
and playing well, uh makes them a far different caliber
of an opponent than if they are having some injury
issues or you know, we're in a little bit of
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a mini slump. So, you know, trying to project the NFL,
I think, too far into the future is just it's
just foolish. It it doesn't work, It doesn't hold water, No.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It does it laughs.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And I think that's what you know, it's so incredible
about looking about especially with the Steelers, you know, being
on buy And I don't know if you could tell
me this, when is the last time you've seen the
entire AFC North like, which meaning the three other teams
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not including US lost in consecutive weeks like as an
entire division minus US. I can't remember it from any
recent history where you've seen that stretch and they've been
common opponents and just not doing anything for once as
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a Steelers and being able to put some distance from
the field at this early, at this early of the
stage in the season.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, you know, and that's primarily because then I can't
remember it either, Max. But you know, you're looking at
the teams in the AFC North. The Ravens have not
been a team that has gone on losing streaks, you know,
very often. I forget what John Harbaugh's record was coming
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off a loss. You know how the Ravens are one
of those teams that you know, you don't necessarily want
to play them the week after they lose a game.
And historically is what I mean lately with the Bengals too,
in the Joe Burrow Area era. Excuse me. You know
the Bengals have been you know, a formidable outfit as well.
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So yeah, in terms of AFC North teams going on,
you know, division wide losing streaks, that doesn't happen very often.
But again, I don't know that this is what's happening
right now, isn't. I won't. I'm not willing to say
that it's not another anomaly where you know, you're just
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in a in a trough maybe of the way this
twenty twenty five season is going to unfold, and you know,
it looks like, oh boy, the Steelers they have they're
they're up. However, many games and a half they are
in the in the division race. You know, now I'm saying, oh,
they have two easy games in a row the Browns,
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and then Thursday night in Cincinnati they'll be five and one.
Uh they' this they'll that Well, you know, you assuming
all of that stuff really is the quickest way for
it not to come true in the league. It just is.
I mean, because I don't looking at the Browns and
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I still love Juju Smith Schuster's line that one when
he said, you know the Browns is the Browns, But
what the Browns are this year. I think they beat
the Packers. The Packers were another one of those September
champions from this season. Nobody was going to beat the Packers.
Michael Parsons, Jordan Love, They're unstoppable. Cleveland beats them, that's
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the Browns only win. So uh, you know, I think
Cleveland's defense is good enough and dangerous enough that it's
gonna be a close game Sunday. It's gonna be a
you know, a slugfest and typical Steelers Browns I think.
And you you know, you get into a game with
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a team like that and you help them out a
little bit with some maybe turnovers, some untimely penalties. You know,
you find yourself in the fourth quarter and it's a
one score game. One thing happens and you lose. Going
on the road on Thursday, I mean, Max, you can
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talk about this as a player that has to be
the worst going on the road and playing Thursday. You're
traveling Wednesday. You know, you can't really practice the day
after your previous game. You know what do you have
one day maybe Tuesday to get any kind of practice
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in Wednesday is the day before a game. It's you know,
to me. Anything can happen on a Thursday night when
you have to go on the road. If you think that,
or anyone thinks that whatever, whoever that opponent is is
going to be a pushover, I just think that circumstances
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make that not the case.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And I could completely agree. I mean, there's nothing worse.
And I think it was two thousand and eight, I
want to say roughly, we went on the road on
a Thursday to Cleveland after Thanksgiving and it was miserable.
It was absolutely miserable going there.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Actually, I take that back. It was two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the win was it was negative, Yeah, it was negative.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
For it was it was absolutely just the worst body.
Our body was just not adjusted. We played I forgot
who we played the week before, but everybody was feeling it.
And then you're like, you're going to Cleveland. It's open
air stadium, the wind off of the lake, and it
was so cold and so frozen solid. It couldn't snow,
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and I just remember trying to dig my cleats into
the ground and it was like it was like breaking
like dry clay, Like it was just you couldn't get footing.
I remember Alan Fanica. Because Alan always put his hand
in a three point stance, he had to get the
tips of like the figures, like they had to shave
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some of it off with like a little razor because
it was like some frostbite in there and we were
in two point. It was just, oh my god, it
was just it was the worst conditions ever. But you're right,
that's something you don't want to do. And I'm glad
the weather's a little bit better. And now everybody has
to play Thursday. That was back when Thursdays were privileged
to play because they didn't start until after Thanksgiving when
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college was over, because you couldn't encroach on any college days.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And that was you. They used to be the good
old Big East Thursdays.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Hi, guys, remember those days, the conference Thursday night football.
That was the reason why we couldn't do it. Yeah,
So so you know, it was. It was a different
era and and now it's like everybody has to do it.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
But it it hurts.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Well, you don't get the home game draw on that
Thursday night. Man, it sucks because, like you said, this
one day of practice. Next day is travel. You can't
go the day after you try and do a walk through,
but you know you're walking. You're walking like like like
you have popsicle sticks, you know, on the side of
your legs, like you are not walking you know, normal.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And so it's rough.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
And that's what Steels are gonna have to deal with
after playing Cleveland. You're gonna have to turn it around
and make a short week out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Labs, Uh, where do you and I asked us of
Alvaro Martin as well, but you know, coming out of
a buy early by obviously for the Steelers, what is
sort of if you take stock of where the team
is after the screen and one start, what are your
what are your feelings about it?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well? I mean I think that the if you look
at the entirety of the the four games before the
buye uh, I think that we've seen some fairly consistent
improvement in a lot of the critical areas, or at
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least the areas that seem to be quote unquote problem
areas when the season began. H running game run defense.
So we've seen improvement there. Uh. And one of the
things that I really like about the defense is, uh
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the takeaways. Uh. The pressure has certainly increased over the
course of the four games, and you know, as as
I was talking about, you know, looking at how the
league changes and everything, all of a sudden, that win
in New England doesn't look like going up there and
just beating a team that's you know, uh, no good
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after Sunday night football. You know, New England is not
going going to New England and needing quote unquote needing
five takeaways to beat the woeful Patriots. Looks looks like
a pretty good win now when they go to Buffalo
and beat the Bills. So a lot of times the
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perceptions of the opponents aren't necessarily accurate. And I think
that some of what's perceived to be a strength or
a weekiness early in the season, as as time will
show you that that's not that's not necessarily an accurate,
you know, representation of that opponent or that phase or
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of your team or how that particular matchup turned out. So,
you know, I look at the Vikings as a good team.
I think that was a good win at New England.
That was a good win. A lot of the projections
for the Steelers, you know, they should be five and
oh when the schedule came out, they should be five
and oh and all this and that you know, Seattle,
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uh looks like a decent team too, an opponent not
to be trifled with. So I, you know, I like
where the where the team is in terms of its record. Certainly.
I also think that as the season progressed, they're starting
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to look a little bit better in terms of how
the outcome was achieved. And I understand that, you know,
esoterics don't mean anything. You know, it's not how but
how many and right, all of that is most important.
But showing some improvement in some areas, I thought the
running game was, you know, very representative against the Vikings.
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I don't know if this jumbo package an addition of
Darnell Washington is the way that it has to be,
but if it is, I'm fine with that because I
think that Darnell Washington as a he's more than just
a jumbo package tight end. Whereas he can help in
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that area when you're either running the ball or passing
it if you want to hold him in for blocking,
but he's also a guy you can send down the
seam if the opponent falls asleep and thinks that every
time he's in there, it's going to be a running play.
Because the guy has some athletic ability, and the Steelers
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have a quarterback who can see that at the line
of scrimmage, if that's a possibility, get to that play
and deliver the ball on time, inaccurately. So yeah, I
like some of those kinds of things too. I like
how the it seems to me that the backfield offensive
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backfield is more than just one guy. I personally thought
that Trey Sermon was going to be the person who
carried the ball the most in Ireland, you know, with
the late scratch of Jalen Warren. But Kenneth Gainwells has
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shown that he is he is capable of being an
every down back. He's not pigeonholed as a third down back.
So now you know Jalen Warren is coming back, you
have Kenneth Gamewell. You know, Caleb Johnson is not going
to be buried or you know, cast aside for that
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gaff on the kickoff, and so you know, he has
some opportunities I think are going to come his way
where he can work his way back into the lineup.
You know, I don't know what the situation with Calvin
Austen is going to be. Uh he I thought when
we were watching the the Vikings game, you know that
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the guy was a respectable number two receiver. Whatever that
really means, I don't even know anymore. But now his
shoulder injury, he may not even miss the game Sunday.
Now I'm hearing again, this is all hearing. So the
receivers seem to be okay. I think there are options
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at tight end. I like the way that Arthur Smith
is calling the game and some of the little adjustments
or you know whatever things that he is doing to
try and get the kind of outcome that they're looking
for in different phases like the running game and Aaron Rodgers.
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To me is I just there's nothing. I cannot think
of a single negative about the guy him as a player,
as a teammate, and Max you may know more about
this than me, or recognize it more than I was
able to, but it seemed to me in that game
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against the Vikings, against Brian Flores's defense, a lot of
it is Flores likes to disguise, you know, and bring
pressure late and you know, those kinds of things kind
of trying to I don't know, trick the offense maybe
or lull them into thinking it's one thing when it's
something else. But I thought Aaron Rodgers' ability to take
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the UH each play deep into the play clock made
Minnesota maybe have to commit a little early than it
wanted to, and then Rogers was able to see that
and then get to something or maybe it wasn't even
changing the play but just going somewhere else with the football,
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and that hasn't been possible. That kind of quarterback play
hasn't been possible in Pittsburgh for a good long time.
So I like where a lot of that's going. The
defense now, you know, Derek Harmon is back. What a
great draft pick that was. And I really liked Nick
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Herbig that there is depth of talent at the linebacker spot.
The inside guys are coming on and playing better, and
you know, Patrick Queen now looks like a you know,
a Pro Bowl the kind of you know, perennial Pro
Bowl guy. Peyton Wilson continues to just develop and flash
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his raw skills and want to And you know, the
secondaryas has had the weather some injuries and maybe they're
gonna have to weather some more. But it looks like
maybe you know, getting Joey Porter back this week. That's
certainly going to be a help. So you know, things
are trending nicely. Uh, but again that doesn't guarantee anything,
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you know, like they say, like your financial advisor always
tells you, Rob, you know, past performance is no indication
of you know, future outcome. So you know, show up
on Sunday and keep Miles Garrett off the quarterback and
I think that things might work out.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Okay, he is Bob Labrielle, always kind enough to join
us on a Tuesday. Tuesday's Labs presented by UPMC, the
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Speaker 4 (22:11):
Thank you, my friend. We look forward to seeing you
this week and then again on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right, fellows, take care, all right, more to come.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We have to go around the NFL. The new power
rankings are out. We'll let you know where the Steelers
sit after. It's just a crazy and we'll get Max's
opinion on the NFL once again, in case you're just
joining us. He kind of waited in a little bit
earlier after just another just another jaw dropper to me
last night. It's you know, as JJ Gray and Mofro
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once saying, everything good is bad. Everything bad is good.
I don't know what to make of it, but Max
will sort it out for you. That's why he's here.
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Speaker 2 (23:29):
Are you ready, Max, Let's do it. Athletic power rankings
are out here.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
We go?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You ready? Number one? Not the Bills, not the Eagles.
It had been Eagles, Bills won two. The Detroit Lions
are number one.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I was gonna guess that. The Leons, the Leons of
Des Crois, no issues there, They've been everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, they have moved up from three to one, moving
from five to two the Tampa Bay Box.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
He can't deny the victories they are winning. They lost
a close one against the Eagles a week ago and
got right back on track again. I mean once again.
The question is going to be can Baker Mayfield actually
lead them to a super Bowl? That's the only thing.
Everything else checks the box. They check the box in
a lot of categories.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I agree. Number three Philadelphia Eagles from one to three. Yeah,
that's about right. Okay, listen, I don't know what they did.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
They need to figure out where Sakwan Barkley is or
locate him, find him. He only touched the ball seven
times in that game.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Ridiculous, that's crazy. Crazy. Four Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yep, yep. You lost to the Patriots. So yeah, yeah,
you don't get any grace anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Interesting game they have against Atlanta coming up to at Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
By the way, way, yeah, that game.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Will be interesting with Penis and company.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah uh, by the way.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Speaking of the Lions, the next five games for them Chiefs, Bucks, Vikings, Commanders, Eagles,
they find out how good the Lions are.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
That that that that that that's a murderer's rog gottlet.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
After their first ten games, we'll see four and one now, okay,
let me zip back down here to number five, the
Jacksonville Jaguars from seven to five.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Hey, listen, when when you beat last year's AFC championship
team and the manner that you did eat a little nod,
you get a little little leeway, so to speak. And
they did it. They earned it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Matching your win total from the last two seasons, not
not combined, but each of the last two years.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Last no, no, but that was the Patriots. They were
four win team last year.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Uh so, what's that's a good improvement the forty nine ers,
You know, that was we weren't on the earn Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That was an impressive win over the Rams.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean impressive for the for a very very banged
up forty nine ers team.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, they're missing a lot of pieces. And for them
to go and take on a team that had been
surging in the Rams man and gutsy play and Mac
Jones had had a great game and once again, doesn't
matter how good the other team is, all you need
to do is score one more point than the other.
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And I thought, you know, San Francisco came in with
a gutsy performance and took the lead in the division
and it was impressive for a Thursday night game, that
was pretty awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yep. And here's the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean Mac Jones, big star Alabama flames out.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is it the team? Is it the coaching? Is it
the player? Is it the system?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know, people are gonna now say, well, anybody can
play in Kyle Shanahan's system. You know, you mister irrelevant
starring there and he's making you know, he just signed
a big contract. Now Mac Jones, he's going to come
in and he's going to excel, and you know, it
is interesting to see Mac Jones, Daniel Jones, some of
the former you know, high pedigree guys we've seen Bakerfield
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Mayfield the last couple of years get a second chance,
Sam Darnold and begin to show that maybe those initial
you know, draft projections and prognostications for those players were correct.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But why is it that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Only very few coaches can figure out how to unlock
their quarterbacks? Right, Kyle Shanahan, You know Bruce Arians back
in the day, Remember he was a quarterback whisperer, And
why can't other teams figure out how to unlock their quarterbacks?
It's amazing we say with the systems that like, why
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did more people have the same system to make sure
that they're prey.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know, I think some of it is some of it,
not all of it, as we talked about with Allen
and Mahomes. Some of it is the quality of the
team around you. I go into the wayback machine and
talk about Steve Young and what would have happened if
he'd spent his entire career in Tampa Bay. Would he
have been a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I can't answer that question. He went to a great
coach and a great system. You had Bill Walsh and
George Seaffert and you know, great players around him. That's
why I think that you know, if the Steelers decide, hey,
we're going to trade up and get ourselves a quarterback
of the future this year, if you if you need
to make that trade, that you know you're dropping him
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into uh, you know, a program that's winning.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And I think that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know, when we talk about these guys getting picked high,
usually get picked high because the team's lousy around you.
And you know, I don't know what to make of
the Commanders. Maybe Jayden Daniels is just that good and
uplifting the team. Maybe they were a little better than
we thought, you know, and and he was able to
lift up a roster that maybe had been underrated or
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maybe was dragged down from the quarterback play before. Because
that sometimes happens too. It is very difficult to parse out,
you know, quarterback from team from coach. I think, you know,
some of them have a some of them have a
track record of success. The Pittsburgh Stealers have a track
record of success, right, you know, the Indianapolis Colts have
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been a good organization. The forty nine ers have been
a good organization. There are organizations that have been good
organizations and but still coach, team organization quarterback trying to
parse him out and decide what is what is? Why
you have NFL Pro scouts and not just college scouts
as well. Who's out there that we can add to
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our team that that is? That is uh, that can
solve the most difficult position to solve in all the
sports and the most important position all in all the sports,
and that's the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well, and I think also.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Sometimes guys need need to mature thing that's right, you know,
sometimes some guys just aren't ready for that responsibility, and
you got to give them a little bit of space.
You got to give them a little bit of of
time to to be able to mature and figure out
what you what you need.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
To figure out.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
And then when you go to a second team, you're
more prepared, you're more mature. You've gotten you know, all
your little kinks and itches and everything out of out
of out of your system, and now you're ready to
go and and and be a good quarterback or you
know what you what what you need to have? You know,
is it I don't need the best offensive line, but
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I need some really great skill receivers, or maybe I
need a better offensive line and just give me you okay,
guys in a run game, you also learn the those
things as a quarterback, what you feel most comfortable with
competing on on a week to week basis.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
So it's not an imperfect science, but it's.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Always funny when you know it's like you go to
Andy Reid, you know, for like coaching rehab, just like
just like a lot of teams did with Bill Belichick
back in the day.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You go to you go to.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Kyle Shanahan when you need a quarterback tune up job,
and you need to get some guys out of there.
But it's just it's always funny when you hear.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
That, Sean McVay, you can.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Go rehabit at at at at uh at what was it,
a spa McVay, if you need a if you need
an increase in your career status. I mean, there's so
many funny like little phrases, but I mean it's true
when you do have the right systems, you do have
the right personnel in place, you do have the right
coaches in place, it's amazing. You know what happens for
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teams or why why you get tagged? I think is
kind of the easiest way to say it. You know,
you you get you get this tag of you're a
guru or a specialist at this, and you know people
people want to try and imitate it and mimic it.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
So Number seven Daniel Jones and Indianapolis Colts. I think
Indiana Jones might be my nicknamee the year to love that.
I think that's hysterical that that that might be the
best one. Yeah, I love it. I don't even I
keep forgetting his name is Daniel.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, that's right, it's so good. It's so good. The
Game of the Dog. Sorry, sorry, is Henry James Junior.
Henry Jones Junior.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We've had this discussion. You're a three fan. You're three
is great, but one's classic. One's a classic.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
It is I mean, one has to start everything, but
three can be, can can be the good finale that
you end on a high note and that that you
know that that creates a true film franchise series.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So Chrissie Crusade did that.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
That's why it's the best of my book.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Okay, I wish we could do some kind of poll.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
No, no, no, he we gotta keep continue with the Powerpole.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
This is all right, because we could go down the
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We could we could go down the rabbit hole. Wait
a minute, what have I done here? I think I
think I somehow lost the backs. Give me a second,
let me get it back here. Oh yeah, yeah, something
something's gone wrong here?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
What have I gone? Awry? Yes, it's it's it's me
and technology not good. Here we go, I got it back.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Where were we with the The Green Bay Packers are
number eight, right, wins over the Lions and Commanders.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
But they're two one and one. You know, as Bob said,
they looked like the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, look like the Super Bowl champs after week one,
and now they're two, one and one. The Rams at
three and two are number nine. They were number four,
by the way, the Packers were number six. They moved
from six to eight. The Rams they coming off of bye.
The Rams moved from four to nine after the loss
of the forty nine ers. Denver is number ten from
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sixteen to ten after they defeat the Eagles. The Washington
Commanders were twentieth. They move up to eleventh after pounding
the Chargers twenty seven to ten. The Seattle Seahawks are
number twelve. Last week, they were number twelve. This week
their number twelve after losing to the Buccaneers thirty eight
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to fifteen. So that brings us to your and mine
an hour Pittsburgh' steel there's at number thirteen coming out
of the by taking on the Browns on Sunday, and frankly,
I'm okay with that. You know, it's okay with me
if you're number thirteen. I think before too long, you know,
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if they take care of business all of a sudden,
you'll be up to like ten and then you'll start,
you know, moving up into the top ten. I hope,
But thirteen, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Max, it's stagnant.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I mean, I felt like after that Seahawks lost loss
that they sustained, I thought we would have jumped in
front of them and been at twelve and Seahawks would
have been at thirteen just because, Okay, we've wiped away
the fact that we lost to you. It wasn't our
best day, pulled away.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
In the end.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
But I felt like after watching them a couple of
weeks since we've played them, like when you say you
know the proof is in the pudding, you know, you
look in the eye of it, and I think we're
a better team now than we were when we played
that Seattle's team. So I felt like we might have
been one place up but not. I'm setting but that
was it, all right. I'm only arguing thirteen to twelve
a one position move up just because of the team
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in front of you totally lost again, they lost pretty bad,
so it was like, why can't we get moved up
even though we're on a buy.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I get it, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
By the way, we're around the NFL going around the NFL,
presented by our neighborhood Fords or the F one fifty
is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm gonna
run through some teams. The team's right behind the Shithers.
There're some good teams right behind the Steelers, very good teams. Fourteenth,
the Chargers, they were ninth, they've dropped the fourteenth behind
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the Steelers. Kansas City dropped from ten to fifteen. That
you're reigning AFC Conference champions. The Minnesota Vikings are sixteenth
because well they beat the Browns, but that dropped them
from fourteenth to sixteenth. So seventeenth. The New England Patriots,
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they move up from twenty two to seventeen. They beat
the Bills. They didn't jump up that much. Remember the
Steelers beat the Patriots. Eighteen, the two and two Falcons
coming off of a bye nineteen. The Texans, they were
twenty fourth, they were one and three. They pound the
one in three Ravens. Now they're two and three. They've
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got a buy coming up there. Nineteenth in these power rankings,
I mean, there's just a jumble of teams here that
could be shooting upward or downwards, including to me. The
twentieth ranked Chicago Bears, who were seventeenth, dropped three spots
in a bye. Kind of tough to go down there, Maybe,
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you know, maybe that's what Ben Johnson and Caleb Johnson needed,
Caleb Williams needed to get on the same wavelength as
a bye and regroup. Then the two to two and
one Cowboys their twenty first Arizona after that horrendous loss
to the Titans. They dropped from twenty one to twenty two.
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They're two and three. The Baltimore Ravens are twenty third.
They dropped from fifteen to twenty third. And this is
why we're going through this, because we're gonna get this
MAFC North teams here. Yeah, we haven't even gotten to
him yet. The Carolina Panthers are twenty fourth. They move
up from twenty ninth after beating the Dolphins. The Bengals
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are twenty fifth two and three Bengals, they were twenty
fifth a week ago. They remain number twenty five. Then
we have the Saints at twenty six. They're one and four,
the Giants at twenty seven, they're one and four. The
Cleveland Browns twenty eighth. They actually dropped the spot after
their twenty one to seventeen loss to the Vikings. Remember
they beat the Packers. They look better with Dylan Gabriel.
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They look better with quinch On Judkins. We're going to
talk a lot more about the Browns coming up, but
they're twenty eighth, the Raiders, twenty ninth. The Tennessee Titans,
number thirty they move up from thirty two to thirty
after beating the Cardinals. Thirty one is the Miami Dolphins
at one and four, just waiting for the acts to fall,
I think, aren't we in Miami?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, we have waiting for Mike McDaniels to get yanked
off the sidelines, you know by like some by some
undercover cops or something. They're just gonna come arrest him
with his white sweatsuit on, rolled up sleeves, take off
his aviator glasses and take his headphone away.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
From him and the Jets number thirty two at o
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Speaker 4 (40:20):
It is time.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
It's a Mike Tomlin press conference Tuesday coming up, so
stay tuned on this very network. You will be coming
up at you straight up and down twelve o'clock and
of course, Rob, it's only one thing left to do
this the bell lap.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Early once you morning.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
About this time, I'm going to suggest drive through for
all of you so you can make sure you hear
the Mike Tomplin press conference. Do not go sit down
in the restaurant, or if you do, demand they changed
that smooth jazz channel and put on some Steelers radio
press conference while you eat.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's my that's my two cents. I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
So we have gone through the power rankings around the NFL,
brought to you by a neighborhood Ford store fun stuff.
One last quick gallop around the AFC North. So these
are the point differentials of the team. The students have
given up two more points than they've scored with their
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three to one record. Bengals minus seventy one, the Ravens
minus thirty six, the Browns minus fifty. They're combined minus
one p fifty nine is the largest in AFC North history.
Who the three sixty eight combined winning percentage the worst
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in NFL history, five and ten record against all other
divisions in twenty twenty five, guess what the worst winning
percentage in division history since the AFC North has existed
in two thousand and two. This was going to be,
as usual, one of the best divisions in football, and
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may still wind up being that way. You know, the
Bengals might have to do something at quarterback. The Ravens
have to get healthy. The Steelers have to continue going.
The Browns have to prove once again that as they've
shown a couple of times, that they're a tough out.
Max The NFL is always interesting, It's always intriguing. As
Bob Labriola says, it's weak to week who's good, who's bad,
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Who's up, who's down?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Whose sideways?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
But I mean, this just even seems unique in that
context just mentioned some of these numbers mentioned that. You know,
this is just a fifth in case you missed this
the first hour, the fifth time in the Super Bowl
history that we're going into a Week six without an
unbeaten team, just the fifth.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Time in Super Bowl era history. It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
This season is and again, you know, look, do I
expect the Eagles not to rise up the Bills not
to rise up. No, I expect those teams to rise
back up. But it has been a wild ride through
the first five weeks of the season.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, it has indeed been an up and down roller coaster.
But you know, if we are going to have something crazy,
I'd rather it happen crazy to everybody else and allow
us just be crazy good and under the radar, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
For the Steelers squad.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
But there's a lot of season left, a lot of
season left, a lot of big matchups left on the horizon.
And as soon as you have the handle business one
week at a time, don't worry about what the final
record is going to be, worry about what the next record.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Is going to be.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Three and one, And we'll turn the page officially tomorrow
and focus in on Cleveland. But your next goal is
to go one to oh and to make yourself a
four to one football team and get a division win
under your under your belt. You've gotten conference wins, you've
gotten out of conference win.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Now time to go get.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
And in division wins the next one on the process.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yep, can't wait. A big game coming up against Cleveland.
As Max just mentioned, Mike Tomlin is coming up next. Injuries,
what is the status of the Steelers. Some injuries late
in the game in Dublin, obviously, some injuries to guys
like high Smith and Porter who we haven't seen in
a while. What is their status. You're going to find
all of that out coming up. We're going to turn
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our attention much more to the game coming up tomorrow.
We want to thank Alvaro Martin for joining us. We
want to thank Bob Labriola for joining us, and of
course we want to thank you for joining us as well.
Of course, don't have a show without you guys listening,
so thank you very much. Justin Miller at the controls
in our iHeart Studio for Max Stark's I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Thanks for listening.
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Then?
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Oh yeah, it's Optimist Prime.
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Speaker 4 (01:19):
So Labs we were talking. First of all, I hope
you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Pretty good? As I was saying to Justin and your
producer before we came on, I wish it was another
bye week. I really I got to like that really quick.
That was nice last week.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, you know what, Labs, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
From February eighth until late July, I will give you
roughly twenty two bye weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
How about that?
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my superiors.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, that and remember you remember who told you
to take those off? Rob King is called m A
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Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, great, great information here about undefeated teams. And we
talk about this a lot. You know, I think you
just stacked the wins, you know, in the first whatever
portion of the season, first quarter, first third of the season.
Then you begin to get an identity maybe through the
middle to latter stage of the season, and then hopefully
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you're healthy and peaking come playoff times. Now, that's clearly
not a one size fits all sort of thing, but
it's kind of the way I sort of vaguely look
at the season, and on these statistics you shared with us,
the last undefeated team in an NFL season, there's no
more undefeated teams left. The last one to win a
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Super Bowl was the two thousand and six Colts two
thousand and six. The Chiefs started nine to zer last year,
lost in the Super Bowl. The Packers started thirteen and
oh in twenty and eleven and lost in the Divisional round.
You have to go back to the two thousand and
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six Colts to find that the last undefeated team in
the NFL to win the Super Bowl, which I think
just underscores what we're talking about. I mean, early season
success is great. You'd rather have it than not have it.
I would take my chances being the last undefeated team,
but it is absolutely zero guaranteur of success in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can look around at
you know, some of the now that we're in October,
look at some of the you know, past septembers, you know,
the you know, the best team in the league at
the end of September. I think at one point in Steptember,
the Chargers thought that they were up there, right, you know,
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I don't know that, you know, I'm not saying that
they're done or anything, but I don't think that they
are now being pointed to as a team that is
a I don't even know if they're considered a Super
Bowl contender anymore. Not that that matters, but I'm my
point is is that you know, the NFL is very
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much a week to week league, and certainly the league
kind of resets itself every three or four weeks. And
so you know what we thought was, you know, a
certainty in early September, like, gee, I don't know, look
at the Ravens and how they run the ball. Who's
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going to ever stop that offense? Now people are talking
about the Ravens could be eliminated when they if they
lose next this coming Sunday to the Los Angeles Rams.
So you know, things change a lot. Injuries have so
much to do with it, and when you play teams
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is also a big factor. You know, when you when
you happen when a certain team happens to come up
on your schedule, you know, whether that team is healthy
and playing well, uh makes them a far different caliber
of an opponent than if they are having some injury
issues or you know, we're in a little bit of
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a mini slump. So, you know, trying to project the NFL,
I think, too far into the future is just it's
just foolish. It it doesn't work, It doesn't hold water, No.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It does it laughs.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And I think that's what you know, it's so incredible
about looking about especially with the Steelers, you know, being
on buy And I don't know if you could tell
me this, when is the last time you've seen the
entire AFC North like, which meaning the three other teams
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not including US lost in consecutive weeks like as an
entire division minus US. I can't remember it from any
recent history where you've seen that stretch and they've been
common opponents and just not doing anything for once as
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a Steelers and being able to put some distance from
the field at this early, at this early of the
stage in the season.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, you know, and that's primarily because then I can't
remember it either, Max. But you know, you're looking at
the teams in the AFC North. The Ravens have not
been a team that has gone on losing streaks, you know,
very often. I forget what John Harbaugh's record was coming
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off a loss. You know how the Ravens are one
of those teams that you know, you don't necessarily want
to play them the week after they lose a game.
And historically is what I mean lately with the Bengals too,
in the Joe Burrow Area era. Excuse me. You know
the Bengals have been you know, a formidable outfit as well.
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So yeah, in terms of AFC North teams going on,
you know, division wide losing streaks, that doesn't happen very often.
But again, I don't know that this is what's happening
right now, isn't. I won't. I'm not willing to say
that it's not another anomaly where you know, you're just
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in a in a trough maybe of the way this
twenty twenty five season is going to unfold, and you know,
it looks like, oh boy, the Steelers they have they're
they're up. However, many games and a half they are
in the in the division race. You know, now I'm saying, oh,
they have two easy games in a row the Browns,
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and then Thursday night in Cincinnati they'll be five and one.
Uh they' this they'll that Well, you know, you assuming
all of that stuff really is the quickest way for
it not to come true in the league. It just is.
I mean, because I don't looking at the Browns and
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I still love Juju Smith Schuster's line that one when
he said, you know the Browns is the Browns, But
what the Browns are this year. I think they beat
the Packers. The Packers were another one of those September
champions from this season. Nobody was going to beat the Packers.
Michael Parsons, Jordan Love, They're unstoppable. Cleveland beats them, that's
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the Browns only win. So uh, you know, I think
Cleveland's defense is good enough and dangerous enough that it's
gonna be a close game Sunday. It's gonna be a
you know, a slugfest and typical Steelers Browns I think.
And you you know, you get into a game with
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a team like that and you help them out a
little bit with some maybe turnovers, some untimely penalties. You know,
you find yourself in the fourth quarter and it's a
one score game. One thing happens and you lose. Going
on the road on Thursday, I mean, Max, you can
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talk about this as a player that has to be
the worst going on the road and playing Thursday. You're
traveling Wednesday. You know, you can't really practice the day
after your previous game. You know what do you have
one day maybe Tuesday to get any kind of practice
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in Wednesday is the day before a game. It's you know,
to me. Anything can happen on a Thursday night when
you have to go on the road. If you think that,
or anyone thinks that whatever, whoever that opponent is is
going to be a pushover, I just think that circumstances
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make that not the case.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And I could completely agree. I mean, there's nothing worse.
And I think it was two thousand and eight, I
want to say roughly, we went on the road on
a Thursday to Cleveland after Thanksgiving and it was miserable.
It was absolutely miserable going there.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Actually, I take that back. It was two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the win was it was negative, Yeah, it was negative.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
For it was it was absolutely just the worst body.
Our body was just not adjusted. We played I forgot
who we played the week before, but everybody was feeling it.
And then you're like, you're going to Cleveland. It's open
air stadium, the wind off of the lake, and it
was so cold and so frozen solid. It couldn't snow,
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and I just remember trying to dig my cleats into
the ground and it was like it was like breaking
like dry clay, Like it was just you couldn't get footing.
I remember Alan Fanica. Because Alan always put his hand
in a three point stance, he had to get the
tips of like the figures, like they had to shave
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some of it off with like a little razor because
it was like some frostbite in there and we were
in two point. It was just, oh my god, it
was just it was the worst conditions ever. But you're right,
that's something you don't want to do. And I'm glad
the weather's a little bit better. And now everybody has
to play Thursday. That was back when Thursdays were privileged
to play because they didn't start until after Thanksgiving when
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college was over, because you couldn't encroach on any college days.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And that was you. They used to be the good
old Big East Thursdays.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Hi, guys, remember those days, the conference Thursday night football.
That was the reason why we couldn't do it. Yeah,
So so you know, it was. It was a different
era and and now it's like everybody has to do it.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
But it it hurts.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Well, you don't get the home game draw on that
Thursday night. Man, it sucks because, like you said, this
one day of practice. Next day is travel. You can't
go the day after you try and do a walk through,
but you know you're walking. You're walking like like like
you have popsicle sticks, you know, on the side of
your legs, like you are not walking you know, normal.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And so it's rough.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
And that's what Steels are gonna have to deal with
after playing Cleveland. You're gonna have to turn it around
and make a short week out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Labs, Uh, where do you and I asked us of
Alvaro Martin as well, but you know, coming out of
a buy early by obviously for the Steelers, what is
sort of if you take stock of where the team
is after the screen and one start, what are your
what are your feelings about it?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well? I mean I think that the if you look
at the entirety of the the four games before the
buye uh, I think that we've seen some fairly consistent
improvement in a lot of the critical areas, or at
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least the areas that seem to be quote unquote problem
areas when the season began. H running game run defense.
So we've seen improvement there. Uh. And one of the
things that I really like about the defense is, uh
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the takeaways. Uh. The pressure has certainly increased over the
course of the four games, and you know, as as
I was talking about, you know, looking at how the
league changes and everything, all of a sudden, that win
in New England doesn't look like going up there and
just beating a team that's you know, uh, no good
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after Sunday night football. You know, New England is not
going going to New England and needing quote unquote needing
five takeaways to beat the woeful Patriots. Looks looks like
a pretty good win now when they go to Buffalo
and beat the Bills. So a lot of times the
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perceptions of the opponents aren't necessarily accurate. And I think
that some of what's perceived to be a strength or
a weekiness early in the season, as as time will
show you that that's not that's not necessarily an accurate,
you know, representation of that opponent or that phase or
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of your team or how that particular matchup turned out. So,
you know, I look at the Vikings as a good team.
I think that was a good win at New England.
That was a good win. A lot of the projections
for the Steelers, you know, they should be five and
oh when the schedule came out, they should be five
and oh and all this and that you know, Seattle,
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uh looks like a decent team too, an opponent not
to be trifled with. So I, you know, I like
where the where the team is in terms of its record. Certainly.
I also think that as the season progressed, they're starting
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to look a little bit better in terms of how
the outcome was achieved. And I understand that, you know,
esoterics don't mean anything. You know, it's not how but
how many and right, all of that is most important.
But showing some improvement in some areas, I thought the
running game was, you know, very representative against the Vikings.
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I don't know if this jumbo package an addition of
Darnell Washington is the way that it has to be,
but if it is, I'm fine with that because I
think that Darnell Washington as a he's more than just
a jumbo package tight end. Whereas he can help in
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that area when you're either running the ball or passing
it if you want to hold him in for blocking,
but he's also a guy you can send down the
seam if the opponent falls asleep and thinks that every
time he's in there, it's going to be a running play.
Because the guy has some athletic ability, and the Steelers
(17:06):
have a quarterback who can see that at the line
of scrimmage, if that's a possibility, get to that play
and deliver the ball on time, inaccurately. So yeah, I
like some of those kinds of things too. I like
how the it seems to me that the backfield offensive
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backfield is more than just one guy. I personally thought
that Trey Sermon was going to be the person who
carried the ball the most in Ireland, you know, with
the late scratch of Jalen Warren. But Kenneth Gainwells has
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shown that he is he is capable of being an
every down back. He's not pigeonholed as a third down back.
So now you know Jalen Warren is coming back, you
have Kenneth Gamewell. You know, Caleb Johnson is not going
to be buried or you know, cast aside for that
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gaff on the kickoff, and so you know, he has
some opportunities I think are going to come his way
where he can work his way back into the lineup.
You know, I don't know what the situation with Calvin
Austen is going to be. Uh he I thought when
we were watching the the Vikings game, you know that
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the guy was a respectable number two receiver. Whatever that
really means, I don't even know anymore. But now his
shoulder injury, he may not even miss the game Sunday.
Now I'm hearing again, this is all hearing. So the
receivers seem to be okay. I think there are options
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at tight end. I like the way that Arthur Smith
is calling the game and some of the little adjustments
or you know whatever things that he is doing to
try and get the kind of outcome that they're looking
for in different phases like the running game and Aaron Rodgers.
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To me is I just there's nothing. I cannot think
of a single negative about the guy him as a player,
as a teammate, and Max you may know more about
this than me, or recognize it more than I was
able to, but it seemed to me in that game
(19:37):
against the Vikings, against Brian Flores's defense, a lot of
it is Flores likes to disguise, you know, and bring
pressure late and you know, those kinds of things kind
of trying to I don't know, trick the offense maybe
or lull them into thinking it's one thing when it's
something else. But I thought Aaron Rodgers' ability to take
(20:00):
the UH each play deep into the play clock made
Minnesota maybe have to commit a little early than it
wanted to, and then Rogers was able to see that
and then get to something or maybe it wasn't even
changing the play but just going somewhere else with the football,
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and that hasn't been possible. That kind of quarterback play
hasn't been possible in Pittsburgh for a good long time.
So I like where a lot of that's going. The
defense now, you know, Derek Harmon is back. What a
great draft pick that was. And I really liked Nick
(20:46):
Herbig that there is depth of talent at the linebacker spot.
The inside guys are coming on and playing better, and
you know, Patrick Queen now looks like a you know,
a Pro Bowl the kind of you know, perennial Pro
Bowl guy. Peyton Wilson continues to just develop and flash
(21:09):
his raw skills and want to And you know, the
secondaryas has had the weather some injuries and maybe they're
gonna have to weather some more. But it looks like
maybe you know, getting Joey Porter back this week. That's
certainly going to be a help. So you know, things
are trending nicely. Uh, but again that doesn't guarantee anything,
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you know, like they say, like your financial advisor always
tells you, Rob, you know, past performance is no indication
of you know, future outcome. So you know, show up
on Sunday and keep Miles Garrett off the quarterback and
I think that things might work out.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Okay, he is Bob Labrielle, always kind enough to join
us on a Tuesday. Tuesday's Labs presented by UPMC, the
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Speaker 4 (22:11):
Thank you, my friend. We look forward to seeing you
this week and then again on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right, fellows, take care, all right, more to come.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We have to go around the NFL. The new power
rankings are out. We'll let you know where the Steelers
sit after. It's just a crazy and we'll get Max's
opinion on the NFL once again, in case you're just
joining us. He kind of waited in a little bit
earlier after just another just another jaw dropper to me
last night. It's you know, as JJ Gray and Mofro
(22:42):
once saying, everything good is bad. Everything bad is good.
I don't know what to make of it, but Max
will sort it out for you. That's why he's here.
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Speaker 4 (23:21):
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Speaker 2 (23:29):
Are you ready, Max, Let's do it. Athletic power rankings
are out here.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
We go?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You ready? Number one? Not the Bills, not the Eagles.
It had been Eagles, Bills won two. The Detroit Lions
are number one.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I was gonna guess that. The Leons, the Leons of
Des Crois, no issues there, They've been everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, they have moved up from three to one, moving
from five to two the Tampa Bay Box.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
He can't deny the victories they are winning. They lost
a close one against the Eagles a week ago and
got right back on track again. I mean once again.
The question is going to be can Baker Mayfield actually
lead them to a super Bowl? That's the only thing.
Everything else checks the box. They check the box in
a lot of categories.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I agree. Number three Philadelphia Eagles from one to three. Yeah,
that's about right. Okay, listen, I don't know what they did.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
They need to figure out where Sakwan Barkley is or
locate him, find him. He only touched the ball seven
times in that game.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Ridiculous, that's crazy. Crazy. Four Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yep, yep. You lost to the Patriots. So yeah, yeah,
you don't get any grace anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Interesting game they have against Atlanta coming up to at Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
By the way, way, yeah, that game.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Will be interesting with Penis and company.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah uh, by the way.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Speaking of the Lions, the next five games for them Chiefs, Bucks, Vikings, Commanders, Eagles,
they find out how good the Lions are.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
That that that that that that's a murderer's rog gottlet.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
After their first ten games, we'll see four and one now, okay,
let me zip back down here to number five, the
Jacksonville Jaguars from seven to five.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Hey, listen, when when you beat last year's AFC championship
team and the manner that you did eat a little nod,
you get a little little leeway, so to speak. And
they did it. They earned it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Matching your win total from the last two seasons, not
not combined, but each of the last two years.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Last no, no, but that was the Patriots. They were
four win team last year.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Uh so, what's that's a good improvement the forty nine ers,
You know, that was we weren't on the earn Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That was an impressive win over the Rams.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean impressive for the for a very very banged
up forty nine ers team.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, they're missing a lot of pieces. And for them
to go and take on a team that had been
surging in the Rams man and gutsy play and Mac
Jones had had a great game and once again, doesn't
matter how good the other team is, all you need
to do is score one more point than the other.
(26:33):
And I thought, you know, San Francisco came in with
a gutsy performance and took the lead in the division
and it was impressive for a Thursday night game, that
was pretty awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yep. And here's the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean Mac Jones, big star Alabama flames out.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is it the team? Is it the coaching? Is it
the player? Is it the system?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know, people are gonna now say, well, anybody can
play in Kyle Shanahan's system. You know, you mister irrelevant
starring there and he's making you know, he just signed
a big contract. Now Mac Jones, he's going to come
in and he's going to excel, and you know, it
is interesting to see Mac Jones, Daniel Jones, some of
the former you know, high pedigree guys we've seen Bakerfield
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Mayfield the last couple of years get a second chance,
Sam Darnold and begin to show that maybe those initial
you know, draft projections and prognostications for those players were correct.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But why is it that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Only very few coaches can figure out how to unlock
their quarterbacks? Right, Kyle Shanahan, You know Bruce Arians back
in the day, Remember he was a quarterback whisperer, And
why can't other teams figure out how to unlock their quarterbacks?
It's amazing we say with the systems that like, why
(27:58):
did more people have the same system to make sure
that they're prey.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know, I think some of it is some of it,
not all of it, as we talked about with Allen
and Mahomes. Some of it is the quality of the
team around you. I go into the wayback machine and
talk about Steve Young and what would have happened if
he'd spent his entire career in Tampa Bay. Would he
have been a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I can't answer that question. He went to a great
coach and a great system. You had Bill Walsh and
George Seaffert and you know, great players around him. That's
why I think that you know, if the Steelers decide, hey,
we're going to trade up and get ourselves a quarterback
of the future this year, if you if you need
to make that trade, that you know you're dropping him
(28:46):
into uh, you know, a program that's winning.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And I think that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know, when we talk about these guys getting picked high,
usually get picked high because the team's lousy around you.
And you know, I don't know what to make of
the Commanders. Maybe Jayden Daniels is just that good and
uplifting the team. Maybe they were a little better than
we thought, you know, and and he was able to
lift up a roster that maybe had been underrated or
(29:12):
maybe was dragged down from the quarterback play before. Because
that sometimes happens too. It is very difficult to parse out,
you know, quarterback from team from coach. I think, you know,
some of them have a some of them have a
track record of success. The Pittsburgh Stealers have a track
record of success, right, you know, the Indianapolis Colts have
(29:36):
been a good organization. The forty nine ers have been
a good organization. There are organizations that have been good
organizations and but still coach, team organization quarterback trying to
parse him out and decide what is what is? Why
you have NFL Pro scouts and not just college scouts
as well. Who's out there that we can add to
(29:58):
our team that that is? That is uh, that can
solve the most difficult position to solve in all the
sports and the most important position all in all the sports,
and that's the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well, and I think also.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Sometimes guys need need to mature thing that's right, you know,
sometimes some guys just aren't ready for that responsibility, and
you got to give them a little bit of space.
You got to give them a little bit of of
time to to be able to mature and figure out
what you what you need.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
To figure out.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
And then when you go to a second team, you're
more prepared, you're more mature. You've gotten you know, all
your little kinks and itches and everything out of out
of out of your system, and now you're ready to
go and and and be a good quarterback or you
know what you what what you need to have? You know,
is it I don't need the best offensive line, but
(30:53):
I need some really great skill receivers, or maybe I
need a better offensive line and just give me you okay,
guys in a run game, you also learn the those
things as a quarterback, what you feel most comfortable with
competing on on a week to week basis.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
So it's not an imperfect science, but it's.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Always funny when you know it's like you go to
Andy Reid, you know, for like coaching rehab, just like
just like a lot of teams did with Bill Belichick
back in the day.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You go to you go to.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Kyle Shanahan when you need a quarterback tune up job,
and you need to get some guys out of there.
But it's just it's always funny when you hear.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
That, Sean McVay, you can.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Go rehabit at at at at uh at what was it,
a spa McVay, if you need a if you need
an increase in your career status. I mean, there's so
many funny like little phrases, but I mean it's true
when you do have the right systems, you do have
the right personnel in place, you do have the right
coaches in place, it's amazing. You know what happens for
(31:49):
teams or why why you get tagged? I think is
kind of the easiest way to say it. You know,
you you get you get this tag of you're a
guru or a specialist at this, and you know people
people want to try and imitate it and mimic it.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
So Number seven Daniel Jones and Indianapolis Colts. I think
Indiana Jones might be my nicknamee the year to love that.
I think that's hysterical that that that might be the
best one. Yeah, I love it. I don't even I
keep forgetting his name is Daniel.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, that's right, it's so good. It's so good. The
Game of the Dog. Sorry, sorry, is Henry James Junior.
Henry Jones Junior.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We've had this discussion. You're a three fan. You're three
is great, but one's classic. One's a classic.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
It is I mean, one has to start everything, but
three can be, can can be the good finale that
you end on a high note and that that you
know that that creates a true film franchise series.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So Chrissie Crusade did that.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
That's why it's the best of my book.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Okay, I wish we could do some kind of poll.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
No, no, no, he we gotta keep continue with the Powerpole.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
This is all right, because we could go down the
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We could we could go down the rabbit hole. Wait
a minute, what have I done here? I think I
think I somehow lost the backs. Give me a second,
let me get it back here. Oh yeah, yeah, something
something's gone wrong here?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
What have I gone? Awry? Yes, it's it's it's me
and technology not good. Here we go, I got it back.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Where were we with the The Green Bay Packers are
number eight, right, wins over the Lions and Commanders.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
But they're two one and one. You know, as Bob said,
they looked like the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, look like the Super Bowl champs after week one,
and now they're two, one and one. The Rams at
three and two are number nine. They were number four,
by the way, the Packers were number six. They moved
from six to eight. The Rams they coming off of bye.
The Rams moved from four to nine after the loss
of the forty nine ers. Denver is number ten from
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sixteen to ten after they defeat the Eagles. The Washington
Commanders were twentieth. They move up to eleventh after pounding
the Chargers twenty seven to ten. The Seattle Seahawks are
number twelve. Last week, they were number twelve. This week
their number twelve after losing to the Buccaneers thirty eight
(34:21):
to fifteen. So that brings us to your and mine
an hour Pittsburgh' steel there's at number thirteen coming out
of the by taking on the Browns on Sunday, and frankly,
I'm okay with that. You know, it's okay with me
if you're number thirteen. I think before too long, you know,
(34:44):
if they take care of business all of a sudden,
you'll be up to like ten and then you'll start,
you know, moving up into the top ten. I hope,
But thirteen, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Max, it's stagnant.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I mean, I felt like after that Seahawks lost loss
that they sustained, I thought we would have jumped in
front of them and been at twelve and Seahawks would
have been at thirteen just because, Okay, we've wiped away
the fact that we lost to you. It wasn't our
best day, pulled away.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
In the end.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
But I felt like after watching them a couple of
weeks since we've played them, like when you say you
know the proof is in the pudding, you know, you
look in the eye of it, and I think we're
a better team now than we were when we played
that Seattle's team. So I felt like we might have
been one place up but not. I'm setting but that
was it, all right. I'm only arguing thirteen to twelve
a one position move up just because of the team
(35:34):
in front of you totally lost again, they lost pretty bad,
so it was like, why can't we get moved up
even though we're on a buy.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I get it, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
By the way, we're around the NFL going around the NFL,
presented by our neighborhood Fords or the F one fifty
is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm gonna
run through some teams. The team's right behind the Shithers.
There're some good teams right behind the Steelers, very good teams. Fourteenth,
the Chargers, they were ninth, they've dropped the fourteenth behind
(36:03):
the Steelers. Kansas City dropped from ten to fifteen. That
you're reigning AFC Conference champions. The Minnesota Vikings are sixteenth
because well they beat the Browns, but that dropped them
from fourteenth to sixteenth. So seventeenth. The New England Patriots,
(36:25):
they move up from twenty two to seventeen. They beat
the Bills. They didn't jump up that much. Remember the
Steelers beat the Patriots. Eighteen, the two and two Falcons
coming off of a bye nineteen. The Texans, they were
twenty fourth, they were one and three. They pound the
one in three Ravens. Now they're two and three. They've
(36:49):
got a buy coming up there. Nineteenth in these power rankings,
I mean, there's just a jumble of teams here that
could be shooting upward or downwards, including to me. The
twentieth ranked Chicago Bears, who were seventeenth, dropped three spots
in a bye. Kind of tough to go down there, Maybe,
(37:10):
you know, maybe that's what Ben Johnson and Caleb Johnson needed,
Caleb Williams needed to get on the same wavelength as
a bye and regroup. Then the two to two and
one Cowboys their twenty first Arizona after that horrendous loss
to the Titans. They dropped from twenty one to twenty two.
(37:31):
They're two and three. The Baltimore Ravens are twenty third.
They dropped from fifteen to twenty third. And this is
why we're going through this, because we're gonna get this
MAFC North teams here. Yeah, we haven't even gotten to
him yet. The Carolina Panthers are twenty fourth. They move
up from twenty ninth after beating the Dolphins. The Bengals
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are twenty fifth two and three Bengals, they were twenty
fifth a week ago. They remain number twenty five. Then
we have the Saints at twenty six. They're one and four,
the Giants at twenty seven, they're one and four. The
Cleveland Browns twenty eighth. They actually dropped the spot after
their twenty one to seventeen loss to the Vikings. Remember
they beat the Packers. They look better with Dylan Gabriel.
(38:17):
They look better with quinch On Judkins. We're going to
talk a lot more about the Browns coming up, but
they're twenty eighth, the Raiders, twenty ninth. The Tennessee Titans,
number thirty they move up from thirty two to thirty
after beating the Cardinals. Thirty one is the Miami Dolphins
at one and four, just waiting for the acts to fall,
I think, aren't we in Miami?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, we have waiting for Mike McDaniels to get yanked
off the sidelines, you know by like some by some
undercover cops or something. They're just gonna come arrest him
with his white sweatsuit on, rolled up sleeves, take off
his aviator glasses and take his headphone away.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
From him and the Jets number thirty two at o
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Speaker 4 (40:20):
It is time.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
It's a Mike Tomlin press conference Tuesday coming up, so
stay tuned on this very network. You will be coming
up at you straight up and down twelve o'clock and
of course, Rob, it's only one thing left to do
this the bell lap.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Early once you morning.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
About this time, I'm going to suggest drive through for
all of you so you can make sure you hear
the Mike Tomplin press conference. Do not go sit down
in the restaurant, or if you do, demand they changed
that smooth jazz channel and put on some Steelers radio
press conference while you eat.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's my that's my two cents. I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
So we have gone through the power rankings around the NFL,
brought to you by a neighborhood Ford store fun stuff.
One last quick gallop around the AFC North. So these
are the point differentials of the team. The students have
given up two more points than they've scored with their
(41:24):
three to one record. Bengals minus seventy one, the Ravens
minus thirty six, the Browns minus fifty. They're combined minus
one p fifty nine is the largest in AFC North history.
Who the three sixty eight combined winning percentage the worst
(41:45):
in NFL history, five and ten record against all other
divisions in twenty twenty five, guess what the worst winning
percentage in division history since the AFC North has existed
in two thousand and two. This was going to be,
as usual, one of the best divisions in football, and
(42:06):
may still wind up being that way. You know, the
Bengals might have to do something at quarterback. The Ravens
have to get healthy. The Steelers have to continue going.
The Browns have to prove once again that as they've
shown a couple of times, that they're a tough out.
Max The NFL is always interesting, It's always intriguing. As
Bob Labriola says, it's weak to week who's good, who's bad,
(42:29):
Who's up, who's down?
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Whose sideways?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
But I mean, this just even seems unique in that
context just mentioned some of these numbers mentioned that. You know,
this is just a fifth in case you missed this
the first hour, the fifth time in the Super Bowl
history that we're going into a Week six without an
unbeaten team, just the fifth.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Time in Super Bowl era history. It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
This season is and again, you know, look, do I
expect the Eagles not to rise up the Bills not
to rise up. No, I expect those teams to rise
back up. But it has been a wild ride through
the first five weeks of the season.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, it has indeed been an up and down roller coaster.
But you know, if we are going to have something crazy,
I'd rather it happen crazy to everybody else and allow
us just be crazy good and under the radar, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
For the Steelers squad.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
But there's a lot of season left, a lot of
season left, a lot of big matchups left on the horizon.
And as soon as you have the handle business one
week at a time, don't worry about what the final
record is going to be, worry about what the next record.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Is going to be.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Three and one, And we'll turn the page officially tomorrow
and focus in on Cleveland. But your next goal is
to go one to oh and to make yourself a
four to one football team and get a division win
under your under your belt. You've gotten conference wins, you've
gotten out of conference win.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Now time to go get.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
And in division wins the next one on the process.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yep, can't wait. A big game coming up against Cleveland.
As Max just mentioned, Mike Tomlin is coming up next. Injuries,
what is the status of the Steelers. Some injuries late
in the game in Dublin, obviously, some injuries to guys
like high Smith and Porter who we haven't seen in
a while. What is their status. You're going to find
all of that out coming up. We're going to turn
(44:28):
our attention much more to the game coming up tomorrow.
We want to thank Alvaro Martin for joining us. We
want to thank Bob Labriola for joining us, and of
course we want to thank you for joining us as well.
Of course, don't have a show without you guys listening,
so thank you very much. Justin Miller at the controls
in our iHeart Studio for Max Stark's I'm Rob King.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
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It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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