November 6, 2025 • 16 mins
Gerry Dulac joins the guys to discuss the trade deadline and its various implications.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And that music gets you envisioning Jerry Dulac and a
nice you know, Tommy Bahama shirt, pair of shorts, maybe
some sandals on surveying the Caribbean. The cool breeze that
is Jerry Dolac breezing. Do you want to remind you
that Jerry's brought to you by Bell and note in
the strip two dollars and fifty cent bud Light sixteen
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out drafts ounce drafts for all Steelers games. Jerry, thank
you very much for being with us, my friend. I
hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Rob. I am fine, my friend. I will let you
know that a couple of weeks ago I put away
to Tommy Bahama shirts and shorts. They hear in a problems.
They're not going to need them around here anymore, although
I do hear tale it's going to be eighty Saturday
and Sunday in Los Angeles if I ever get there,
if my flights are unaffected or affected, bring.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Him out of retirement, Jerry or storage. Get to get
the dust off the moth balls and put those babies
in your luggage. Hey, Jared, the trade deadline came and
went on Tuesday. You know everyone made a lot of
Mike tom and who just I think Mike Tomlin sometimes
just likes to have fun, but he kind of you
know everyone, Oh he's teasing a big trade at the
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trade deadline and all this other stuff. Well, the trade
deadline came and went. The Steelers didn't make any moves.
I'm guessing that they didn't you know that that wasn't
from a lack of trying.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's correct, Rob. They certainly tried to make a deal.
First off, they always do their due diligence. They talk
to a lot of people, but they did inquire. But
they in fact, they were even close to one deal,
but obviously apparently that fell through. But they just they
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want to protect their draft capital, and when teams want
even a fourth round pick, they're really not willing to
go that high. You know, they got Kyle first of all,
they had to trade for Kyle Duger because of the
injured Sean Elliett, which tells you they believe he's going
to be out for a while. And he's on ir
right now. So that's a minimum four games. But they
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traded a fifth round pick, and they're willing to trade
fifth round picks, but anything much higher than that they're
really not willing to go unless they absolutely it's desperate. Now,
let's say, for example, DK Metcalf got hurt on Sunday,
and what's going to be out for a while. Now,
all of a sudden, you're going to pull that trigger,
you know, and if you have to give up a
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third or whatever, that's fine. But when you look at
their third and fourth round draft picks, Calvin Austin, Roman Wilson,
Darnell Washington, Mason McCormick, Nick Herbig, Peyton Wilson, Jack Sawyer,
those guys were all third and fourth round picks, and
they value those picks because they value those types of players,
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and so they're just not willing to say, Okay, yeah,
we'll give you, we'll give you a fourth when they
don't feel it's absolutely necessary. And the final point I
would like to make here, Rob is that Arthur Smith's
reliance on so many different players, particularly tight ends. You know, Sunday,
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perfect example, the tight ends caught ten passes, the wide
receivers caught eight. Go back to when Calvin Austin will
hurt two games. Tight ends caught nineteen passes, two hundred
and forty four yards, five touchdowns, he likes tight ends,
and so far that formula has worked pretty well for
the offense, and we're seeing Pat friar Muth be more
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involved obviously these last couple of weeks. So if you
bring in another receiver, I'm not going to sit here
and say where do you play him? But fitting in
another receiver, with the way they use tight ends, and
as much as DK Metcalf plays, and as much as
they like Calvin Austin, you're going to give up a
third or fourth or let's just stick with the fourth
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to bring in a guy who you don't know how
much he's going to play. And I say that because
last year when they brought in Mike Williams, what is
Mike Williams doing? His very first game catches that pass
against Washington, the core of the end zone, does Mike
Williams stuff, wins the game, barely plays after that. I mean,
for the most part, average nineteen snaps a game. And
so I don't want to say where would the guy
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fit because if you ask me, yeah, would I like
another receiver on this team? Sure? Sure? But at what price?
And that's the way they looked at it, And.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think I think I'm kind of in that same
mindset with you, Jerry. I mean, and the way that
they kind of look at it and how they've approached it.
You know, they really see the tight ends as their
number two. And I know everybody's been crying about number
two receiver, number two receiver, but I feel like, like
you said, you just listed that production and it's like,
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our number two is our tight ends, and we can
deploy them anyway. We got to build a tight end
group where we can we can fit a body type
and a style to any thing we need based off
of those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I need a split out guy who runs rounds like
a receiver Jonas Smith. I need a true flex tight end.
I got Pat Fryarmouth. I need an on the line
tackle tight end, blocking and receiving type. I got Darnell Washington.
And I will say this, correct me if I'm wrong, Jerry,
Darnell Washington is proving to be a productive guy kind
of what we thought he would be when we drafted him.
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He's turning into that guy now, he's turning into that
that kind of lynchpin individual for Aaron Rodgers and an
integral part of the offense.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know, Max I don't know if I thought he
would be, but I certainly thought he could be when
you watched his Georgia tape that this is a guy
who can catch the ball and they can run after
the catch. And when they didn't utilize that early, I
just thought and I think part of it though, too
was and you notice the difference now from his rookie year.
His knees were really bothering him. But all that being said,
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I think that I would have like to have seen
him being used more, and he is now. And even
the other day, you know, Aaron Rodgers throws that quick
strike to him right there to goal line on fourth
down and he's just not ready for he's not even looking.
Hits him in the chest. That didn't stop Aaron Rodgers,
excuse me from coming back to him repeatedly during the game.
I think he ended up with six targets and four catches.
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The only concern I have about that deployment of tight
ends or use of tight ends is and the strategy
behind it is I don't know how far you can
go with that. You know, you have to be look,
there's all fascets. You have to be able to run
the ball, but you have to be able to quick
strike down the field if necessary, and we have seen that.
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We have seen that from Aaron Rodgers. But I don't
know that you can just rely on the deployment. Let's
face it, it's basically three tight ends. Kat Connor Heywood
does come in and play, but it's the way they
use the other three. I don't know how much that
you can sustain doing that and be successful heading into
the postseason. But so far it's been okay. They really
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like Calvin Austin in that offense. Arthur Smith really likes him.
We have five catches the other day. So whether the
tight end position is number two or it's number three,
the fact that the one thing that Arthur Smith does
very well, he uses a lot of people, and that's
that's been a good thing. And we'll see how far
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and how long they could sustain that with success going
into the postseason. Should they get there. We think they'll
get there, but we'll sink well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think another thing too is Roman Wilson. Jerry, Look,
you know that's right, that's right. Sometimes necessity is the
mother of invention, right. You had to get him out there,
and look, they I got the sense that they were
high on him. You know, a lot of good things
being said about him in training camp, even going back
to mini camp, about his work ethic and how he
showed up and look, he made the play that he'll
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never make again. I think trying to do too much
at the end of that game when all you needed
to do was just find a piece of grass, get
the first down and get out of the stadium, and
instead he tries to make something happen. But that aside,
I've gotten the sense that they really like him and
they didn't need him, and then there was an injury
for Calvin Austin, so they utilized him. And ever since then,
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whether that would have happened, regardless, he has been part
of this offense and I expect him to continue to
be part of the offense.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know, Robin maybe more importantly, Aaron Rodgers really likes him.
Aaron Rodgers speaks so very highly of him. You go back,
I think even to the preseason that what he saw
from Roman Wilson. I'm trying to remember the exact words.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That he used.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He didn't say he could be an elite receiver in
the NFL, but I think he said a big time
receiver in the NFL, and you know, he talked last week.
I asked him. He was talking about how he had
a good practice and you know, and I said, what
constant it's a good practice opportunities and he went on
to explain that, No, what constitutes a good practice is
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being where you're supposed to be, running the proper routes,
you know, making sure your assignments are correct, and being
where you're supposed to be. And he says he does
that very well. That's how you build trust with your quarterback,
knowing that that guy is going to be where he's
supposed to be if I need to throw it to him.
So Aaron Rodgers is very high on Roman Wilson and
I like the guy too, and I do. I think
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he's going to be a very good receiver in the
National Football League and we have seen flashes of that
so far, and maybe we'll continue to see it as well.
But I'm with you, Rob, I think that's a part
of the equation. You start fitting him in there, and
again it's just another option. It's another piece for Arti Smith.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And Jerry, you know, kind of looking ahead to this
weekend with the with the Chargers about obviously a lot
of talk has been made about the trade deadline and
and their respect. The Charges went out and got Trevor Penning.
They have true attrition at the at the tackle spot,
both of them. You know, you lose with Shan Slater
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right after he signed that extension. Joe Walt exits this game.
Bobby Hart just injures me in practiced yesterday, and who
you're talking about really testing the metal of this group.
I mean, you know when you look at just where
the charges are from that perspective and knowing what the
defense put up, I mean, you know, what are what
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are your thoughts about this defense after turning in that
performance against Indianapolis going into LA You.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, Max, I can't remember if we talked about this
in a pregame show, or maybe it was when Babs
before you came into the booth, but you know we
were talking about what the defense needs to do to
change what has been going on, and I said, it
starts upfront, and it starts with pressure. And we saw that.
We saw that the other day and there's no question
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that the pressure bothered Daniel Jones and five turnovers by
him two strip sacks of course, and the three interceptions
and so they're going to have to do that again.
Justin Herbert leaves the league in passing yards. And so
there's and and look, we know the Steelers have giving up.
It's three consecutive games now quarterbacks have passed for over
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three hundred yards. No, I understand why Daniel Jones did
it the other day. He had to try and come
from behind from by a large margin, and the bulk
of that one hundred and sixty four yards were in
the fourth quarter alone. So but to me, they have
to consistently show that they can do that. Not that
they're going to get five six takeaways every game, because
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they're not. But it as long as you can maintain
the pressure, you know. They talked Aaron Rodgers again went
on glowingly after the game about this speech Saturday night
by Jalen Ramsey, and he had the rooms attention boy,
and he talked about playing with an edge. Well, I
think what you saw the other day was guys playing
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with the edge all the way through the secondary, cornerback, safeties, whomever, linebackers,
challenging receivers breaking up passes. They had thirteen pass breakups
the other day. Now, I haven't gone around the league
because it's too tedious at task to look up every game.
That's a staggering number of passes defensed, and I can't
imagine there's too many instances where teams have more passes
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defense than that, And to me, that was a good
sign and a certainly a good indication of playing with
an edge, playing more aggressively, and they have to maintain that.
And that's what we see around the National Football League.
We see teams surprise other teams and let's face it,
nobody saw coming what happened on Sunday, not to that degree.
But you know, you can't have that be a one
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time thing, and you're not going to win every game,
I know, but you have to try to follow that
up with another performance against a good offense team. I mean,
they lose their top two running backs and they still
average one hundred and seventy five yards the last two
games running the football, so they're going to have their
hands full. And yeah, that Charger offensive line losing Joe
Walt is really big on top of losing Slater from
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the start of the season. So the Steelers they have
to capitalize on it. But they have to follow up
what they did against the Colt with the same type
of aggressive edge performance from their defense.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know, that defense saw some shifting personnel with all
the injuries and presumably with ineffectiveness. I'm not sure why
jan Thornhill wasn't out there more. Maybe they didn't. I
don't know whether he was nicked up or anything, Jerry,
but they moved. Look, they made They went out and
got Darius Slay and they went out and got Jalen
Ramsey so they could have a three cornerback attack to
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put against the top receivers in the league. Well, Darius
Slay is you know, it feels like he's you know,
and by the way, kudos to him for coming back
into the game with whatever happened to his finger and
showing some veteran leader ship out there. But you know,
now you've got Ramsey moving to free safety. And we
also saw some four to three. I can't remember the
last time I saw four to three. They had Harrison
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out there. Again, a lot of it was because they
were down bodies, I'm presuming. But again when I mentioned,
you know, Roman Wilson getting an opportunity to play because
of the need is that here to stay? Is Ramsey
here to stay? And are we going to see a
little bit different defensive approach from this year's with four
to three and some other things.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Perhaps, Well, I think they, first of all, Rob, I
think they liked what they saw from the secondary last
week in terms of the alignment of players, and I
think that's going to continue for the short term. I mean,
Kyle Dugger comes in two practices and play seventy seven
of seventy eight snaps. I mean they didn't see that
coming either. They were gonna monitor, not monitor, to see
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how he is as the game goes on, and they
saw nothing, no reason to take him out. So that's
that's not going to change. And what happened is the
the alignment you're referring to is this is something we
haven't seen. We see them bring in and use three
outside linebackers. They bring in Nick Herbig and playing with
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Alex Heismith and TJ. Watt. Well, what we saw the
other day was them bring in Malik Harrison, who's their
physical run stuffer, and put him on the field at
the same time with Peyton Wilson and Patrick Queen, so
you don't see you and then you put him on
the front line and so you don't see them use
three inside backers like they have used three outside backers.
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So that was just one of the other wrinkles they
used and asked for one Thornhill. You know, unless there's
some injury, I don't know that they're going to change
or unless it's not working against the Chargers. But I
think they're going to stick with what they have right now.
And you know, Brandon Echols will be one of the
rotating corners in there, and they'll they'll keep their fingers
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crossed and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Cherry Do Lac. Jerry, always appreciate it, my friend. Uh,
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where you can get two dollars and fifty cent but
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
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so big, he has to have two sponsors. Jerry, thank you,
my friend. See a little bit on the south side, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Got it, Rob Max, I'll see it's a Ballyard god
willing that the flights are unaffected.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah who you telling? Hey, same here, Jered, I mean
worst case scenario if you make it to photix, wee
could carpool. Uh well, I look forward to seeing you
so far.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But do you got him man, Jerry do lac
And that music gets you envisioning Jerry Dulac and a
nice you know, Tommy Bahama shirt, pair of shorts, maybe
some sandals on surveying the Caribbean. The cool breeze that
is Jerry Dolac breezing. Do you want to remind you
that Jerry's brought to you by Bell and note in
the strip two dollars and fifty cent bud Light sixteen
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out drafts ounce drafts for all Steelers games. Jerry, thank
you very much for being with us, my friend. I
hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Rob. I am fine, my friend. I will let you
know that a couple of weeks ago I put away
to Tommy Bahama shirts and shorts. They hear in a problems.
They're not going to need them around here anymore, although
I do hear tale it's going to be eighty Saturday
and Sunday in Los Angeles if I ever get there,
if my flights are unaffected or affected, bring.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Him out of retirement, Jerry or storage. Get to get
the dust off the moth balls and put those babies
in your luggage. Hey, Jared, the trade deadline came and
went on Tuesday. You know everyone made a lot of
Mike tom and who just I think Mike Tomlin sometimes
just likes to have fun, but he kind of you
know everyone, Oh he's teasing a big trade at the
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trade deadline and all this other stuff. Well, the trade
deadline came and went. The Steelers didn't make any moves.
I'm guessing that they didn't you know that that wasn't
from a lack of trying.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's correct, Rob. They certainly tried to make a deal.
First off, they always do their due diligence. They talk
to a lot of people, but they did inquire. But
they in fact, they were even close to one deal,
but obviously apparently that fell through. But they just they
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want to protect their draft capital, and when teams want
even a fourth round pick, they're really not willing to
go that high. You know, they got Kyle first of all,
they had to trade for Kyle Duger because of the
injured Sean Elliett, which tells you they believe he's going
to be out for a while. And he's on ir
right now. So that's a minimum four games. But they
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traded a fifth round pick, and they're willing to trade
fifth round picks, but anything much higher than that they're
really not willing to go unless they absolutely it's desperate. Now,
let's say, for example, DK Metcalf got hurt on Sunday,
and what's going to be out for a while. Now,
all of a sudden, you're going to pull that trigger,
you know, and if you have to give up a
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third or whatever, that's fine. But when you look at
their third and fourth round draft picks, Calvin Austin, Roman Wilson,
Darnell Washington, Mason McCormick, Nick Herbig, Peyton Wilson, Jack Sawyer,
those guys were all third and fourth round picks, and
they value those picks because they value those types of players,
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and so they're just not willing to say, Okay, yeah,
we'll give you, we'll give you a fourth when they
don't feel it's absolutely necessary. And the final point I
would like to make here, Rob is that Arthur Smith's
reliance on so many different players, particularly tight ends. You know, Sunday,
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perfect example, the tight ends caught ten passes, the wide
receivers caught eight. Go back to when Calvin Austin will
hurt two games. Tight ends caught nineteen passes, two hundred
and forty four yards, five touchdowns, he likes tight ends,
and so far that formula has worked pretty well for
the offense, and we're seeing Pat friar Muth be more
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involved obviously these last couple of weeks. So if you
bring in another receiver, I'm not going to sit here
and say where do you play him? But fitting in
another receiver, with the way they use tight ends, and
as much as DK Metcalf plays, and as much as
they like Calvin Austin, you're going to give up a
third or fourth or let's just stick with the fourth
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to bring in a guy who you don't know how
much he's going to play. And I say that because
last year when they brought in Mike Williams, what is
Mike Williams doing? His very first game catches that pass
against Washington, the core of the end zone, does Mike
Williams stuff, wins the game, barely plays after that. I mean,
for the most part, average nineteen snaps a game. And
so I don't want to say where would the guy
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fit because if you ask me, yeah, would I like
another receiver on this team? Sure? Sure? But at what price?
And that's the way they looked at it, And.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think I think I'm kind of in that same
mindset with you, Jerry. I mean, and the way that
they kind of look at it and how they've approached it.
You know, they really see the tight ends as their
number two. And I know everybody's been crying about number
two receiver, number two receiver, but I feel like, like
you said, you just listed that production and it's like,
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our number two is our tight ends, and we can
deploy them anyway. We got to build a tight end
group where we can we can fit a body type
and a style to any thing we need based off
of those guys.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I need a split out guy who runs rounds like
a receiver Jonas Smith. I need a true flex tight end.
I got Pat Fryarmouth. I need an on the line
tackle tight end, blocking and receiving type. I got Darnell Washington.
And I will say this, correct me if I'm wrong, Jerry,
Darnell Washington is proving to be a productive guy kind
of what we thought he would be when we drafted him.
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He's turning into that guy now, he's turning into that
that kind of lynchpin individual for Aaron Rodgers and an
integral part of the offense.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know, Max I don't know if I thought he
would be, but I certainly thought he could be when
you watched his Georgia tape that this is a guy
who can catch the ball and they can run after
the catch. And when they didn't utilize that early, I
just thought and I think part of it though, too
was and you notice the difference now from his rookie year.
His knees were really bothering him. But all that being said,
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I think that I would have like to have seen
him being used more, and he is now. And even
the other day, you know, Aaron Rodgers throws that quick
strike to him right there to goal line on fourth
down and he's just not ready for he's not even looking.
Hits him in the chest. That didn't stop Aaron Rodgers,
excuse me from coming back to him repeatedly during the game.
I think he ended up with six targets and four catches.
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The only concern I have about that deployment of tight
ends or use of tight ends is and the strategy
behind it is I don't know how far you can
go with that. You know, you have to be look,
there's all fascets. You have to be able to run
the ball, but you have to be able to quick
strike down the field if necessary, and we have seen that.
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We have seen that from Aaron Rodgers. But I don't
know that you can just rely on the deployment. Let's
face it, it's basically three tight ends. Kat Connor Heywood
does come in and play, but it's the way they
use the other three. I don't know how much that
you can sustain doing that and be successful heading into
the postseason. But so far it's been okay. They really
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like Calvin Austin in that offense. Arthur Smith really likes him.
We have five catches the other day. So whether the
tight end position is number two or it's number three,
the fact that the one thing that Arthur Smith does
very well, he uses a lot of people, and that's
that's been a good thing. And we'll see how far
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and how long they could sustain that with success going
into the postseason. Should they get there. We think they'll
get there, but we'll sink well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think another thing too is Roman Wilson. Jerry, Look,
you know that's right, that's right. Sometimes necessity is the
mother of invention, right. You had to get him out there,
and look, they I got the sense that they were
high on him. You know, a lot of good things
being said about him in training camp, even going back
to mini camp, about his work ethic and how he
showed up and look, he made the play that he'll
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never make again. I think trying to do too much
at the end of that game when all you needed
to do was just find a piece of grass, get
the first down and get out of the stadium, and
instead he tries to make something happen. But that aside,
I've gotten the sense that they really like him and
they didn't need him, and then there was an injury
for Calvin Austin, so they utilized him. And ever since then,
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whether that would have happened, regardless, he has been part
of this offense and I expect him to continue to
be part of the offense.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know, Robin maybe more importantly, Aaron Rodgers really likes him.
Aaron Rodgers speaks so very highly of him. You go back,
I think even to the preseason that what he saw
from Roman Wilson. I'm trying to remember the exact words.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That he used.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He didn't say he could be an elite receiver in
the NFL, but I think he said a big time
receiver in the NFL, and you know, he talked last week.
I asked him. He was talking about how he had
a good practice and you know, and I said, what
constant it's a good practice opportunities and he went on
to explain that, No, what constitutes a good practice is
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being where you're supposed to be, running the proper routes,
you know, making sure your assignments are correct, and being
where you're supposed to be. And he says he does
that very well. That's how you build trust with your quarterback,
knowing that that guy is going to be where he's
supposed to be if I need to throw it to him.
So Aaron Rodgers is very high on Roman Wilson and
I like the guy too, and I do. I think
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he's going to be a very good receiver in the
National Football League and we have seen flashes of that
so far, and maybe we'll continue to see it as well.
But I'm with you, Rob, I think that's a part
of the equation. You start fitting him in there, and
again it's just another option. It's another piece for Arti Smith.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And Jerry, you know, kind of looking ahead to this
weekend with the with the Chargers about obviously a lot
of talk has been made about the trade deadline and
and their respect. The Charges went out and got Trevor Penning.
They have true attrition at the at the tackle spot,
both of them. You know, you lose with Shan Slater
(10:12):
right after he signed that extension. Joe Walt exits this game.
Bobby Hart just injures me in practiced yesterday, and who
you're talking about really testing the metal of this group.
I mean, you know when you look at just where
the charges are from that perspective and knowing what the
defense put up, I mean, you know, what are what
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are your thoughts about this defense after turning in that
performance against Indianapolis going into LA You.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, Max, I can't remember if we talked about this
in a pregame show, or maybe it was when Babs
before you came into the booth, but you know we
were talking about what the defense needs to do to
change what has been going on, and I said, it
starts upfront, and it starts with pressure. And we saw that.
We saw that the other day and there's no question
(11:02):
that the pressure bothered Daniel Jones and five turnovers by
him two strip sacks of course, and the three interceptions
and so they're going to have to do that again.
Justin Herbert leaves the league in passing yards. And so
there's and and look, we know the Steelers have giving up.
It's three consecutive games now quarterbacks have passed for over
(11:22):
three hundred yards. No, I understand why Daniel Jones did
it the other day. He had to try and come
from behind from by a large margin, and the bulk
of that one hundred and sixty four yards were in
the fourth quarter alone. So but to me, they have
to consistently show that they can do that. Not that
they're going to get five six takeaways every game, because
(11:44):
they're not. But it as long as you can maintain
the pressure, you know. They talked Aaron Rodgers again went
on glowingly after the game about this speech Saturday night
by Jalen Ramsey, and he had the rooms attention boy,
and he talked about playing with an edge. Well, I
think what you saw the other day was guys playing
(12:05):
with the edge all the way through the secondary, cornerback, safeties, whomever, linebackers,
challenging receivers breaking up passes. They had thirteen pass breakups
the other day. Now, I haven't gone around the league
because it's too tedious at task to look up every game.
That's a staggering number of passes defensed, and I can't
imagine there's too many instances where teams have more passes
(12:27):
defense than that, And to me, that was a good
sign and a certainly a good indication of playing with
an edge, playing more aggressively, and they have to maintain that.
And that's what we see around the National Football League.
We see teams surprise other teams and let's face it,
nobody saw coming what happened on Sunday, not to that degree.
But you know, you can't have that be a one
(12:50):
time thing, and you're not going to win every game,
I know, but you have to try to follow that
up with another performance against a good offense team. I mean,
they lose their top two running backs and they still
average one hundred and seventy five yards the last two
games running the football, so they're going to have their
hands full. And yeah, that Charger offensive line losing Joe
Walt is really big on top of losing Slater from
(13:13):
the start of the season. So the Steelers they have
to capitalize on it. But they have to follow up
what they did against the Colt with the same type
of aggressive edge performance from their defense.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know, that defense saw some shifting personnel with all
the injuries and presumably with ineffectiveness. I'm not sure why
jan Thornhill wasn't out there more. Maybe they didn't. I
don't know whether he was nicked up or anything, Jerry,
but they moved. Look, they made They went out and
got Darius Slay and they went out and got Jalen
Ramsey so they could have a three cornerback attack to
(13:47):
put against the top receivers in the league. Well, Darius
Slay is you know, it feels like he's you know,
and by the way, kudos to him for coming back
into the game with whatever happened to his finger and
showing some veteran leader ship out there. But you know,
now you've got Ramsey moving to free safety. And we
also saw some four to three. I can't remember the
last time I saw four to three. They had Harrison
(14:10):
out there. Again, a lot of it was because they
were down bodies, I'm presuming. But again when I mentioned,
you know, Roman Wilson getting an opportunity to play because
of the need is that here to stay? Is Ramsey
here to stay? And are we going to see a
little bit different defensive approach from this year's with four
to three and some other things.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Perhaps, Well, I think they, first of all, Rob, I
think they liked what they saw from the secondary last
week in terms of the alignment of players, and I
think that's going to continue for the short term. I mean,
Kyle Dugger comes in two practices and play seventy seven
of seventy eight snaps. I mean they didn't see that
coming either. They were gonna monitor, not monitor, to see
(14:51):
how he is as the game goes on, and they
saw nothing, no reason to take him out. So that's
that's not going to change. And what happened is the
the alignment you're referring to is this is something we
haven't seen. We see them bring in and use three
outside linebackers. They bring in Nick Herbig and playing with
(15:12):
Alex Heismith and TJ. Watt. Well, what we saw the
other day was them bring in Malik Harrison, who's their
physical run stuffer, and put him on the field at
the same time with Peyton Wilson and Patrick Queen, so
you don't see you and then you put him on
the front line and so you don't see them use
three inside backers like they have used three outside backers.
(15:35):
So that was just one of the other wrinkles they
used and asked for one Thornhill. You know, unless there's
some injury, I don't know that they're going to change
or unless it's not working against the Chargers. But I
think they're going to stick with what they have right now.
And you know, Brandon Echols will be one of the
rotating corners in there, and they'll they'll keep their fingers
(15:57):
crossed and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Cherry Do Lac. Jerry, always appreciate it, my friend. Uh,
not only brought to you by Bellinotte in the strip
where you can get two dollars and fifty cent but
like sixteen out drafts or all Stooders games, but also
brought to you by your neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The f one fifty is the official truck of the
Pittsburgh stee theres putting the do the two in the
sponsorships for the great Cherry Do Lac. A man so big,
so big, he has to have two sponsors. Jerry, thank you,
my friend. See a little bit on the south side, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Got it, Rob Max, I'll see it's a Ballyard god
willing that the flights are unaffected.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah who you telling? Hey, same here, Jered, I mean
worst case scenario if you make it to photix, wee
could carpool. Uh well, I look forward to seeing you
so far.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But do you got him man, Jerry do lac
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