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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Met someone off the internet and then met them in
a in a dating capacity for real, like you originated
your entanglement or engagement. Sure, depending on how it went
with that person.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We got three kids? Well, very good.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so this is I'm gonna show my age right here.
It's back in the day of Yahoo chat oh, right,
like Indy Napolis chat room. I was Private Lopez at
Fort Lewis, Washington. I was probably at your stage. Yeah,
I was twenty years old in the army, Private Lopez.
That is actually a good one. I'm gonna do it,
ibsu not Private Lopez, and yeah, I hit her with
(00:42):
the best pickup line of all time asl question mark
is basically age, sex location.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Are you a girl? How old are you?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And do you live close to me? Okay, so you
met this person on the internet and then.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We dated, we got married later on had kids, and
then Jane's mom became your wife, yes, Jamee's mom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, So, how what was the process you went by
to verify that was a real human?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
There was no process back then. You weren't worried about
a chatbot. Back then, you were just worried about getting catfished. Yeah,
so I mean, did you how long did you engage
in conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
With this person?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, keV in the modern era. Now, well you're you're
currently with someone, but you have been single in the
modern era, have you been on the dating application?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Refuse?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, very good, I refuse to do that, keV. In
the modern dating era? What is the process to confirm
someone is a real one to two things? One that
they're a real human being period, and then that they
are who they say they are.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I think people usually have to take a selfie
for verification, so they get verified on the apps once
they take their selfie. But I don't know if that's
I don't think that's actually required. So there's a lot
of like bots on.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Have you ever been concerned when you're talking to someone
or you're meeting someone that's not a real human that is?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, but I can usually tell pretty quickly, like usually
the pictures are off, like you can tell it's like
a screenshot they found at Yeah, we don't like include
something about their snapchat and the bio. Oh okay, so
there's obvious signs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Have you ever talked to a person and then said
that or a someone and then figured out this appears
not to be a real.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, I've started, I've started conversations, but then I yeah,
it didn't go on very long.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So it's pretty you should do you believe a normal
person should be able to figure out they're not conversing
with the real person. Or is it that good that
it would be able to you'd be able to snooker someone.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I think you'd have to be pretty naive to fall for.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That, or old, perhaps lonely, lonely you don't want to
know that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There you go. That may be the big one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, So Reuters has an article about a seventy six
year old man who where was he from? He was
from New Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Was he Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He was from New Jersey and he died while traveling
to New York City to meet someone who, it turns out,
was not a real person at all, but was a
what they call a chat bot.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We hey, keV, So we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yesterday I said I want to create a fake person,
a fake girl, and I wanted to just be completely
ai and see if I can make money off clicks. Well,
apparently this is and that's what that is. It, that's
what that is. The person ever existed. It was just
a hot chick. Somebody used AI to create a person.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. So this guy he was again, he was an
older person.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think he had had some health issues, maybe some
mental issues.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He just packed up his.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Stuff left and then they found him dead. Now it
wasn't believe he was murdered, but rather he like fell
going to try to meet this person, somehow hit his
head and tragically passed away. But the point is this
guy again older, probably not great with technology, but this
(04:05):
online chat Okay, my question with the online chat bot
is there's not a person behind it, Like there's.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not probably not. There's buy some script right in the
back AI.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, just get like a Aichat conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah yeah, I would believe that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So literally, now you can have a conversation with the
computer that's good enough that you don't even I mean,
if you're not hip to the game.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You can even do a voices these days where now
like have you ever got the robo call? And it
sounds a lot better than you say, yeah, yah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but I assume if they're trying to sell me
something or they're talking about a non existent thing that
I need to call about.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Your car warrantine. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The uh it's always like, I'm sure people get these
messages now. Thankfully most phone mechanisms will identify.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Spam, but they're smarter now now they use your local
area code to try to get around them.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, they do, and it'll always be like, hey, this
is Claude from the business Services unit. Should probably go
work for Diego Morales because the services division check on
the businesses with the what's his face And I'm calling
about your warranty that expired and I'm concerned about your
(05:20):
business call me like they act as though like that.
They'll present I'm sure everbody's gotting these messages, they'll present
it as a legitimate thing or unless you're kind of
paying it to you'd be like, oh my gosh, even
though the thing may not even exist. But I guess
there's enough people that they think it would exist. But
you're telling me those are also I never paid it, Yeah,
probably robo calls.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They're not even humans. Like the last the last good.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Human scammer was the Indian guy that called you about
your taxes. Yeah, right, Like outside of that, they're all
robots now and they're only going to get better they're
only going to get better.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So that's something like you know our parents who are
getting older. Sure you know in the next five to
ten years, are they going to get scammed by random calls?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Are they gonna?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do you even answer the phone if you don't know
who it is? I?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But I'll hang up in the first couple of seconds.
So you get a random number to call you and
you'll answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah? Why who would be calling you? I don't know.
You seem we're gonna give you money? Maybe keV. Do
you ever answer the phone if you don't know the number? Yeah?
I do it sometimes. I'm curious. Is it for adventure?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
But you know it's the good chances of call Let baby?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't know who the another line are?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Are you that desperate for attention that you need a
robot or a scammer?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Gotta put me down rup. But I'm just asking. At
least I wasn't here a medial math just got personal.
I mean, why would you not because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know who's calling, so I'll just pick it
up and if it's any kind of sales, I just
hang up. I'm not interested in anything. Or I'll say,
you know, take me off your list or whatever. But
didn't they have the no call list?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I thought Roketopos to be on there. He's too busy
going after Notre Dame and Butler. He doesn't have time
to apparently force the no calling. I thought that was
the thing because it happens all the time. But okay, so.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
This is where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
My phone completely crashed that you don't know, this crash
completely last week. This is a brand new cell phone.
I had no numbers, no contract.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh no. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So when I hosted Monday Night with Alison, I'm like, hey,
I need you to send me Rob's number, Casey's.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
No, I didn't have anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Every person that texted me, I said, I don't want
to be rude, but like, who is this?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah? Lost them all?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So yeah, did you ever get that when you were
like dating someone that or you were like you had
engaged in some sort of social thing with them, and
then you tried to hit them up and then they
didn't know, and then you had dawn on you that
they had not put put your number in their phone,
so you weren't even important.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Enough for them that's never happened to me.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, see this is and people know this. I tell people,
do not take this personally. I am uber lazy and
I do not people put numbers in my phone, and
I'm my brain is sharp enough that I can remember
numbers based on what they call it the prefix. What
are the first three the first three numbers, like I
noticed people with the first three numbers. But then I'll
do it in bulk, like I'll be like, okay, I'm
(07:59):
so far behind this per should be in there, and
then I'll just do like twenty numbers at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
So I'm guilty of putting you in my phone as
your nickname. Yeah, you told me that, and then I
forget who the heck you are.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, you told me that, Like Dan Marino is in
my was in my fat You told me that. No
clue who that is. I can't believe you both. You
both do this.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You answer the phone when you know there's no logical reason,
like if somebody in.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The phone rang, that's the logical or I don't randomly
pick up my phone and say hello.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But if you know it's a ninety percent chance of
something that you're not gonna want to even deal with
Why would you subject yourself to that?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, if first of all this says scam, I don't
pick up this possible scam ever.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I know, but who would be calling you? And if
it's some important they.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Would clearly need the country needs me to go back
overseas to fight some special war.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Rob, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Why is this such a big deal to you who
I talked to. That's fascinating. It's fascinating to me that
both of you, yeah, are willing to You're an old man.
The need for adventure is so strong with the both
of you.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is that what it is? We like to live dangerous?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You're willing to subject yourself to something that you know
ninety percent is likely as no benefit to you whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But there's a ten percent chance it could be life changing. Wow,
that's ridiculous.
Have you ever.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Met someone off the internet and then met them in
a in a dating capacity for real, like you originated
your entanglement or engagement. Sure, depending on how it went
with that person.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We got three kids? Well, very good.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so this is I'm gonna show my age right here.
It's back in the day of Yahoo chat oh, right,
like Indy Napolis chat room. I was Private Lopez at
Fort Lewis, Washington. I was probably at your stage. Yeah,
I was twenty years old in the army, Private Lopez.
That is actually a good one. I'm gonna do it,
ibsu not Private Lopez, and yeah, I hit her with
(00:42):
the best pickup line of all time asl question mark
is basically age, sex location.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Are you a girl? How old are you?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And do you live close to me? Okay, so you
met this person on the internet and then.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We dated, we got married later on had kids, and
then Jane's mom became your wife, yes, Jamee's mom. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, So, how what was the process you went by
to verify that was a real human?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
There was no process back then. You weren't worried about
a chatbot. Back then, you were just worried about getting catfished. Yeah,
so I mean, did you how long did you engage
in conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
With this person?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, keV in the modern era. Now, well you're you're
currently with someone, but you have been single in the
modern era, have you been on the dating application?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Refuse?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, very good, I refuse to do that, keV. In
the modern dating era? What is the process to confirm
someone is a real one to two things? One that
they're a real human being period, and then that they
are who they say they are.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I think people usually have to take a selfie
for verification, so they get verified on the apps once
they take their selfie. But I don't know if that's
I don't think that's actually required. So there's a lot
of like bots on.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Have you ever been concerned when you're talking to someone
or you're meeting someone that's not a real human that is?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, but I can usually tell pretty quickly, like usually
the pictures are off, like you can tell it's like
a screenshot they found at Yeah, we don't like include
something about their snapchat and the bio. Oh okay, so
there's obvious signs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Have you ever talked to a person and then said
that or a someone and then figured out this appears
not to be a real.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, I've started, I've started conversations, but then I yeah,
it didn't go on very long.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So it's pretty you should do you believe a normal
person should be able to figure out they're not conversing
with the real person. Or is it that good that
it would be able to you'd be able to snooker someone.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I think you'd have to be pretty naive to fall for.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That, or old, perhaps lonely, lonely you don't want to
know that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There you go. That may be the big one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, So Reuters has an article about a seventy six
year old man who where was he from? He was
from New Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Was he Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He was from New Jersey and he died while traveling
to New York City to meet someone who, it turns out,
was not a real person at all, but was a
what they call a chat bot.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We hey, keV, So we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yesterday I said I want to create a fake person,
a fake girl, and I wanted to just be completely
ai and see if I can make money off clicks. Well,
apparently this is and that's what that is. It, that's
what that is. The person ever existed. It was just
a hot chick. Somebody used AI to create a person.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. So this guy he was again, he was an
older person.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think he had had some health issues, maybe some
mental issues.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He just packed up his.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Stuff left and then they found him dead. Now it
wasn't believe he was murdered, but rather he like fell
going to try to meet this person, somehow hit his
head and tragically passed away. But the point is this
guy again older, probably not great with technology, but this
(04:05):
online chat Okay, my question with the online chat bot
is there's not a person behind it, Like there's.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not probably not. There's buy some script right in the
back AI.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, just get like a Aichat conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah yeah, I would believe that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So literally, now you can have a conversation with the
computer that's good enough that you don't even I mean,
if you're not hip to the game.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You can even do a voices these days where now
like have you ever got the robo call? And it
sounds a lot better than you say, yeah, yah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but I assume if they're trying to sell me
something or they're talking about a non existent thing that
I need to call about.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Your car warrantine. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The uh it's always like, I'm sure people get these
messages now. Thankfully most phone mechanisms will identify.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Spam, but they're smarter now now they use your local
area code to try to get around them.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, they do, and it'll always be like, hey, this
is Claude from the business Services unit. Should probably go
work for Diego Morales because the services division check on
the businesses with the what's his face And I'm calling
about your warranty that expired and I'm concerned about your
(05:20):
business call me like they act as though like that.
They'll present I'm sure everbody's gotting these messages, they'll present
it as a legitimate thing or unless you're kind of
paying it to you'd be like, oh my gosh, even
though the thing may not even exist. But I guess
there's enough people that they think it would exist. But
you're telling me those are also I never paid it, Yeah,
probably robo calls.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They're not even humans. Like the last the last good.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Human scammer was the Indian guy that called you about
your taxes. Yeah, right, Like outside of that, they're all
robots now and they're only going to get better they're
only going to get better.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So that's something like you know our parents who are
getting older. Sure you know in the next five to
ten years, are they going to get scammed by random calls?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Are they gonna?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do you even answer the phone if you don't know
who it is? I?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But I'll hang up in the first couple of seconds.
So you get a random number to call you and
you'll answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah? Why who would be calling you? I don't know.
You seem we're gonna give you money? Maybe keV. Do
you ever answer the phone if you don't know the number? Yeah?
I do it sometimes. I'm curious. Is it for adventure?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
But you know it's the good chances of call Let baby?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't know who the another line are?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Are you that desperate for attention that you need a
robot or a scammer?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Gotta put me down rup. But I'm just asking. At
least I wasn't here a medial math just got personal.
I mean, why would you not because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know who's calling, so I'll just pick it
up and if it's any kind of sales, I just
hang up. I'm not interested in anything. Or I'll say,
you know, take me off your list or whatever. But
didn't they have the no call list?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I thought Roketopos to be on there. He's too busy
going after Notre Dame and Butler. He doesn't have time
to apparently force the no calling. I thought that was
the thing because it happens all the time. But okay, so.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
This is where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
My phone completely crashed that you don't know, this crash
completely last week. This is a brand new cell phone.
I had no numbers, no contract.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh no. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So when I hosted Monday Night with Alison, I'm like, hey,
I need you to send me Rob's number, Casey's.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
No, I didn't have anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Every person that texted me, I said, I don't want
to be rude, but like, who is this?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah? Lost them all?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So yeah, did you ever get that when you were
like dating someone that or you were like you had
engaged in some sort of social thing with them, and
then you tried to hit them up and then they
didn't know, and then you had dawn on you that
they had not put put your number in their phone,
so you weren't even important.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Enough for them that's never happened to me.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, see this is and people know this. I tell people,
do not take this personally. I am uber lazy and
I do not people put numbers in my phone, and
I'm my brain is sharp enough that I can remember
numbers based on what they call it the prefix. What
are the first three the first three numbers, like I
noticed people with the first three numbers. But then I'll
do it in bulk, like I'll be like, okay, I'm
(07:59):
so far behind this per should be in there, and
then I'll just do like twenty numbers at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
So I'm guilty of putting you in my phone as
your nickname. Yeah, you told me that, and then I
forget who the heck you are.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, you told me that, Like Dan Marino is in
my was in my fat You told me that. No
clue who that is. I can't believe you both. You
both do this.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You answer the phone when you know there's no logical reason,
like if somebody in.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The phone rang, that's the logical or I don't randomly
pick up my phone and say hello.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But if you know it's a ninety percent chance of
something that you're not gonna want to even deal with
Why would you subject yourself to that?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, if first of all this says scam, I don't
pick up this possible scam ever.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I know, but who would be calling you? And if
it's some important they.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Would clearly need the country needs me to go back
overseas to fight some special war.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Rob, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Why is this such a big deal to you who
I talked to. That's fascinating. It's fascinating to me that
both of you, yeah, are willing to You're an old man.
The need for adventure is so strong with the both
of you.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is that what it is? We like to live dangerous?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You're willing to subject yourself to something that you know
ninety percent is likely as no benefit to you whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But there's a ten percent chance it could be life changing. Wow,
that's ridiculous.
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