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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's
find out. It's kind of a case. He show him.
Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai
joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So, first question, why would you want to do this
to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working
for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are
you running for secretary of state?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants,
and I was always taught that public servants should serve
people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state.
I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House,
and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's
using his position as an elected official to benefit himself,
to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean,
the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money
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on a luxury suv.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just
a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes
an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell
us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel.
He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera.
The list on. I want to live a life of service.
I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When
you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty,
you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office
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is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan
is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the
wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent
audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the
car off the do you do that? We'll wait on
that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like.
And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too.
Still that new car smell.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's get I want to get to what you're
gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing
that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get
this all the time, you come from a very famous
political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa
is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You
step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's
who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics.
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How are you going to handle that as you run
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our
state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to
the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control.
It's just kind of who I am. But I got
to be my own person. I am my own person,
and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen
months or so to the November of twenty twenty six
showing people who I am. I got to be my
own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad
(02:15):
briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried
to get back involved in politics.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says,
with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're
calling the arch manning by the way, So what if
you're not very good, you could very well be very good.
We hope you're very good. But you know, you see
that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael
Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard
to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers,
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And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal
with that because sometimes that's not easy for people.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah,
my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah,
So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom
always like say to me growing up, never never try
to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good
at it. People could smell a phony from mile away.
It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same
in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just
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gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to
this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean
you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think
it was yesterday or the day before. Yep. The public
polling shows that nobody knows in our state who Diego
Morales is, and the people that do know don't like him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys
our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is
that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's
way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand,
all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about
it yet. Does that work in your favor?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get
to all the ninety two counties of our state, and
I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame
people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about
the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state.
I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media,
and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around
all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him.
I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right
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person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The
office has nothing to do with your political party. It
has to do with good government. I mean the guys
wasting our money. People work really hard for their money.
I'm gonna save people money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State.
All right, So I think a lot of people are
gonna be very interested on how you sort of overcome
the Democrat challenge, which is, hey, it's a sixty to
forty state. Obviously the Democrats. It's been a long time
since I guess what, Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz
(04:30):
So it's been a decade plus. How do you get
enough Republican leaning voters to vote for you to make
up that pretty big gap in terms of voter voter tendencies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For lack of a good question, the best thing about
this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans.
You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our
secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us
who's paying for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Man, we're count on you to find out who paid
for the thing. That's your job.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring
you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have
had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When
they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or
one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy.
Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator? State?
Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire.
Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of
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this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting
out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy,
Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign
donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look,
he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses
in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your
listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your
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new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting
a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and
this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors.
That is not a good partner. How can you trust
that person to help you found your business and be successful.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And
by the way, I think that's great that you're going
to do that, because I think we talked about this
on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales,
there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit
in what he's doing. I think most people that say
does know exactly what he is. And the fact that
the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general
won't do anything about it. It's really going to take
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somebody to get in that office because you will get
access to all the stuff. You're going to be able
to open those doors.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're right, and look, this is this goes to the
heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I
think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with
me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales
is the product of twenty five years of no competition
in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business,
if you have if there are no competing businesses in
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an area, the one business in town can jack up
their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He
does not feel like he has to take good actions,
good steps for good government, because he feels like there
are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to
find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We
need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters.
It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office
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who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at
their jobs, are not going to lie to you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I try to make this case. A lot on
this program, and I hear from people, many people they
will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful.
They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I
just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party
and I just can't deal with that. How do you
overcome when there are some very loud voices in your
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party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open
to voting for you. How do you deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look,
both political parties need to focus on the issues that
matter to most people. Most people people care about cost
of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof
here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the
AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company.
I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high.
(07:59):
Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure
to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that
people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it
have been focused on things for way too long that
are just not the main issue for most people. So
you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters
of the other party focus on the things that matter
to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad
was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey,
what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you
have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey,
I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and
we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week,
Like what are those conversations?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he
gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there,
and you know that can be good and bad, but
you know it's this is my own thing. I got
to make my own way. And you might in twenty
sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a
ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get
that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But
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he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by
a healthy margin to an.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Idiot to Todd Young.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you
will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He
actually he I had a problem with my g I
built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were
on it right away, So I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've
been here for ten minutes and you did not mention
you were a marine, which is way more than you
ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, look, I appreciate his service.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
All right. Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or
Secretary of State. Let's take a break. When we come back,
we'll get to some of the issues. How does he
feel about voter I D How does he feel about
ballot initiatives? We'll get to that in a lot more.
Kennel A Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get
good after in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for
(09:50):
Secretary of State. He is our guest, so let's talk
about some of the positions you have. You have said,
I think it is a very smart voter id off table.
We're not touching voter id long.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we rob by the way. We in our state
must have secure elections. There is no room, no room
in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token,
I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom
of the country in voter participation.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Why is that is because.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The number one reason I've read studies about this, I
doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest
with you, I don't think he cares. Voter apathy. People
don't go to the polls because they feel like their
voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting their ballot into
the abyss. Your listeners know about this partisan redistricting effort
that's going on. Yeah, what do you think that's going
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to do to voter apathy? If we further gerrymander our
congressional maps where where we have very non competitive elections,
people are not going to go to the polls because they're
going to say, why am I voting? This outcome is predetermined.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think the big thing for you, though, is
you're fine with voter id in the state of media.
You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay,
let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an
act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief,
would have some sway over that in terms of public influence.
Where are you out on ballot referendums.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri,
and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process.
I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country
and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed
by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks
in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're
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just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one
of these people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's living a great life in Carmel and with his
new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look,
can you imagine the energy that we can build in
our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we
let the people decide to have a voice in the
big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout,
that's going to get people out to the polls. I
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have a lot of faith robbed like you do in
Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one
hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests
in the state House. I have faith in the in
Hoosiers deciding this.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Do you feel pressure that?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of
like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana.
I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name,
with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be
a much better candidate than what they put forward in
the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy
can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know. I don't think about things that way.
All I can do is focus. You know, you're are
you football fan? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while
I paid for it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we
focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through,
best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter
in the game. You can't think about all these you know,
big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got
to focus on what is in front of me immediately today.
How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on,
not all those narratives.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for
Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look
like like for you because one of the things that
you've done very well so far, and I think it's
even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people
are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money.
He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say,
on your own. So what did the next couple of
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months look like for you? And and address this amount
of money you think it's going to take to win
this race.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at
a law from here in town, and you know, I
got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well,
most people run for public office don't have jobs on
the side. I'm like, well, I mean well.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I will say this for you. You showed up
on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I
can't afford it. I was like, shouldn't there be a
line of people behind you? You are by yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Diego and I had a little back and forth a
few months ago.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like,
what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I
think I think that's really says a lot about you
that you can't you go play on your own, you
show up.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you,
I think, and I go places on my own, talk
to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm
going to do the next three months, I'm going to
get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people,
not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk
to them about our message. I'm going to hear their
where they're struggling in their in their life and how
I can address those concerns. And I look forward to
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doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not
going to run it in a partisan Why it's time
we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of
big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see,
he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just
you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's
just as a family business. What do you say to
those people.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I would say we're building momentum here because people believe
in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The
majority of the money that has come in in our
fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans.
That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our
current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders,
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and I hope to be one of these, one of
these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they
don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message
and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I
decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give
me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I
need I need more rich friends real quick. I want
to get to know you a little bit because I
think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here,
he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit
about your military service, because I think that says a
lot about somebody about that you could go any path
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you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing
to wear the uniform for your country.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well,
did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your
dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents
put on me was to just give back and to
try and serve. And you can do that in a
ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You
can be you know, you can be a journalist, like
I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist.
That might be a dirty word these days, but there's
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just a ton of different ways to do that. And
so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've
been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a
lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm
very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give
back and just do my part to defend our country.
The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing
about the military, is that people come from all different
walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all
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over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have
different politics, but at the end of the day, in
the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the
Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader
to take all of these different people and orient them
toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who
we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a
mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that
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type of leadership in our politics.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And thing I like about your military service is there's
more than just one file photo of you. This was
one studio portrait.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that diego?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one
we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's
interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but
I want I want you to talk about your mom
for a minute, because I was talking to my mom
the other day about you know, you're coming on the
show and she listens as to program, and when she
was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so
we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and
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then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't
talking about any of that. She just said his mom
was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want
to give you a moment to talk about that, because
it probably gets old just talking about your dad and
your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big
part of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
She was just an amazing woman in so many ways,
and I was just very lucky to have her as
a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to
get me a study and do I'm looking At the time,
I was not always a fan of it, but looking back,
I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've
been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my
mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm
very because that's not always a case with people and
their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean,
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she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney,
very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through
law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she
always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah,
she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing
beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California.
She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls
on the stage, but they asked you kind of like
geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out
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of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady.
We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed
away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer.
But I was just so lucky to have her for
all those years in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for
the election. I just wanted to take a few moments
to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing,
and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're
sort of the only only chance we've got to find
out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know,
I want to I want to thank you for running.
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I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in
this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
we'll look forward to having you back a we get
closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners,
and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh,
an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides
and politics, the corruption that we've seen in the Statehouse,
the wasteful spending it can exist in both parties. Just
happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but we
got to just as common sense taxpayers and just you know,
normal people. We gott to call this stuff out. You're
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doing a good job at that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you. Man, all right. Kennel Case
Show ninety three, WIBC
So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's
find out. It's kind of a case. He show him.
Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai
joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So, first question, why would you want to do this
to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working
for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are
you running for secretary of state?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants,
and I was always taught that public servants should serve
people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state.
I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House,
and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's
using his position as an elected official to benefit himself,
to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean,
the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money
(00:46):
on a luxury suv.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just
a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes
an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell
us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel.
He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera.
The list on. I want to live a life of service.
I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When
you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty,
you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office
(01:09):
is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan
is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the
wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent
audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the
car off the do you do that? We'll wait on
that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like.
And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too.
Still that new car smell.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's get I want to get to what you're
gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing
that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get
this all the time, you come from a very famous
political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa
is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You
step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's
who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics.
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How are you going to handle that as you run
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our
state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to
the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control.
It's just kind of who I am. But I got
to be my own person. I am my own person,
and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen
months or so to the November of twenty twenty six
showing people who I am. I got to be my
own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad
(02:15):
briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried
to get back involved in politics.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says,
with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're
calling the arch manning by the way, So what if
you're not very good, you could very well be very good.
We hope you're very good. But you know, you see
that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael
Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard
to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers,
(02:42):
And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal
with that because sometimes that's not easy for people.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah,
my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah,
So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom
always like say to me growing up, never never try
to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good
at it. People could smell a phony from mile away.
It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same
in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just
(03:08):
gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to
this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean
you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think
it was yesterday or the day before. Yep. The public
polling shows that nobody knows in our state who Diego
Morales is, and the people that do know don't like him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys
our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is
that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's
way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand,
all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about
it yet. Does that work in your favor?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get
to all the ninety two counties of our state, and
I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame
people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about
the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state.
I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media,
and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around
all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him.
I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right
(03:59):
person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The
office has nothing to do with your political party. It
has to do with good government. I mean the guys
wasting our money. People work really hard for their money.
I'm gonna save people money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State.
All right, So I think a lot of people are
gonna be very interested on how you sort of overcome
the Democrat challenge, which is, hey, it's a sixty to
forty state. Obviously the Democrats. It's been a long time
since I guess what, Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz
(04:30):
So it's been a decade plus. How do you get
enough Republican leaning voters to vote for you to make
up that pretty big gap in terms of voter voter tendencies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For lack of a good question, the best thing about
this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans.
You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our
secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us
who's paying for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Man, we're count on you to find out who paid
for the thing. That's your job.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring
you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have
had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When
they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or
one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy.
Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator? State?
Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire.
Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of
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this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting
out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy,
Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign
donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look,
he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses
in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your
listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your
(05:40):
new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting
a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and
this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors.
That is not a good partner. How can you trust
that person to help you found your business and be successful.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And
by the way, I think that's great that you're going
to do that, because I think we talked about this
on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales,
there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit
in what he's doing. I think most people that say
does know exactly what he is. And the fact that
the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general
won't do anything about it. It's really going to take
(06:16):
somebody to get in that office because you will get
access to all the stuff. You're going to be able
to open those doors.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're right, and look, this is this goes to the
heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I
think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with
me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales
is the product of twenty five years of no competition
in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business,
if you have if there are no competing businesses in
(06:41):
an area, the one business in town can jack up
their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He
does not feel like he has to take good actions,
good steps for good government, because he feels like there
are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to
find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We
need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters.
It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office
(07:04):
who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at
their jobs, are not going to lie to you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I try to make this case. A lot on
this program, and I hear from people, many people they
will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful.
They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I
just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party
and I just can't deal with that. How do you
overcome when there are some very loud voices in your
(07:31):
party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open
to voting for you. How do you deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look,
both political parties need to focus on the issues that
matter to most people. Most people people care about cost
of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof
here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the
AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company.
I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high.
(07:59):
Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure
to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that
people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it
have been focused on things for way too long that
are just not the main issue for most people. So
you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters
of the other party focus on the things that matter
to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad
was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey,
what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you
have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey,
I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and
we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week,
Like what are those conversations?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he
gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there,
and you know that can be good and bad, but
you know it's this is my own thing. I got
to make my own way. And you might in twenty
sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a
ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get
that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But
(08:57):
he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by
a healthy margin to an.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Idiot to Todd Young.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you
will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He
actually he I had a problem with my g I
built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were
on it right away, So I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've
been here for ten minutes and you did not mention
you were a marine, which is way more than you
ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, look, I appreciate his service.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
All right. Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or
Secretary of State. Let's take a break. When we come back,
we'll get to some of the issues. How does he
feel about voter I D How does he feel about
ballot initiatives? We'll get to that in a lot more.
Kennel A Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get
good after in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for
(09:50):
Secretary of State. He is our guest, so let's talk
about some of the positions you have. You have said,
I think it is a very smart voter id off table.
We're not touching voter id long.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we rob by the way. We in our state
must have secure elections. There is no room, no room
in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token,
I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom
of the country in voter participation.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Why is that is because.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The number one reason I've read studies about this, I
doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest
with you, I don't think he cares. Voter apathy. People
don't go to the polls because they feel like their
voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting their ballot into
the abyss. Your listeners know about this partisan redistricting effort
that's going on. Yeah, what do you think that's going
(10:36):
to do to voter apathy? If we further gerrymander our
congressional maps where where we have very non competitive elections,
people are not going to go to the polls because they're
going to say, why am I voting? This outcome is predetermined.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think the big thing for you, though, is
you're fine with voter id in the state of media.
You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay,
let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an
act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief,
would have some sway over that in terms of public influence.
Where are you out on ballot referendums.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri,
and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process.
I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country
and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed
by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks
in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're
(11:26):
just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one
of these people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's living a great life in Carmel and with his
new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look,
can you imagine the energy that we can build in
our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we
let the people decide to have a voice in the
big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout,
that's going to get people out to the polls. I
(11:53):
have a lot of faith robbed like you do in
Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one
hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests
in the state House. I have faith in the in
Hoosiers deciding this.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Do you feel pressure that?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of
like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana.
I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name,
with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be
a much better candidate than what they put forward in
the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy
can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know. I don't think about things that way.
All I can do is focus. You know, you're are
you football fan? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while
I paid for it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we
focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through,
best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter
in the game. You can't think about all these you know,
big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got
to focus on what is in front of me immediately today.
How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on,
not all those narratives.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for
Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look
like like for you because one of the things that
you've done very well so far, and I think it's
even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people
are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money.
He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say,
on your own. So what did the next couple of
(13:15):
months look like for you? And and address this amount
of money you think it's going to take to win
this race.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at
a law from here in town, and you know, I
got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well,
most people run for public office don't have jobs on
the side. I'm like, well, I mean well.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I will say this for you. You showed up
on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I
can't afford it. I was like, shouldn't there be a
line of people behind you? You are by yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Diego and I had a little back and forth a
few months ago.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like,
what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I
think I think that's really says a lot about you
that you can't you go play on your own, you
show up.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you,
I think, and I go places on my own, talk
to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm
going to do the next three months, I'm going to
get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people,
not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk
to them about our message. I'm going to hear their
where they're struggling in their in their life and how
I can address those concerns. And I look forward to
(14:22):
doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not
going to run it in a partisan Why it's time
we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of
big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see,
he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just
you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's
just as a family business. What do you say to
those people.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I would say we're building momentum here because people believe
in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The
majority of the money that has come in in our
fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans.
That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our
current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders,
(15:04):
and I hope to be one of these, one of
these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they
don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message
and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I
decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give
me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I
need I need more rich friends real quick. I want
to get to know you a little bit because I
think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here,
he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit
about your military service, because I think that says a
lot about somebody about that you could go any path
(15:34):
you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing
to wear the uniform for your country.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well,
did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your
dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents
put on me was to just give back and to
try and serve. And you can do that in a
ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You
can be you know, you can be a journalist, like
I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist.
That might be a dirty word these days, but there's
(15:59):
just a ton of different ways to do that. And
so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've
been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a
lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm
very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give
back and just do my part to defend our country.
The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing
about the military, is that people come from all different
walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all
(16:21):
over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have
different politics, but at the end of the day, in
the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the
Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader
to take all of these different people and orient them
toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who
we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a
mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that
(16:42):
type of leadership in our politics.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And thing I like about your military service is there's
more than just one file photo of you. This was
one studio portrait.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that diego?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one
we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's
interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but
I want I want you to talk about your mom
for a minute, because I was talking to my mom
the other day about you know, you're coming on the
show and she listens as to program, and when she
was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so
we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and
(17:16):
then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't
talking about any of that. She just said his mom
was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want
to give you a moment to talk about that, because
it probably gets old just talking about your dad and
your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big
part of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
She was just an amazing woman in so many ways,
and I was just very lucky to have her as
a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to
get me a study and do I'm looking At the time,
I was not always a fan of it, but looking back,
I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've
been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my
mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm
very because that's not always a case with people and
their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean,
(17:52):
she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney,
very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through
law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she
always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah,
she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing
beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California.
She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls
on the stage, but they asked you kind of like
geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out
(18:14):
of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady.
We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed
away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer.
But I was just so lucky to have her for
all those years in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for
the election. I just wanted to take a few moments
to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing,
and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're
sort of the only only chance we've got to find
out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know,
I want to I want to thank you for running.
(18:47):
I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in
this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
we'll look forward to having you back a we get
closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners,
and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh,
an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides
and politics, the corruption that we've seen in the Statehouse,
the wasteful spending it can exist in both parties. Just
happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but we
got to just as common sense taxpayers and just you know,
normal people. We gott to call this stuff out. You're
(19:17):
doing a good job at that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you. Man, all right. Kennel Case
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