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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a resolution in this case. By the way,
it's Kenlln Casey Show and Rob Casey's here. Thank you
for joining us today. We have a resolution in the
case of the man who was charged with what stalking
Caitland Clark Rank Clark.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, so, Michael Lewis is his name. He's from Texas.
He was sentenced to two and a half years in
prison after he pled guilty to threatening and harassing her.
He sent some explicit and violent messages to her via
social media for about a year, and he received the
maximum sentence for his felony charge. Two and a half
(00:34):
years doesn't seem like very long to me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, yeah, and you know, obviously a variety of things
go into it. What there was a plea deal obviously,
so you get a reduced whatever. Now, some feeszing things
came out The Indie Star amongst others. Have you know,
big expose as on this if you want to read
all about it. One that was interesting was this guy
traveled from Dallas, the Dallas area to Indianapolis. He was
(00:59):
in Indianapolis when the police encountered him. So very serious, right,
I mean, it's not just some guy in his bedroom
doing something. He had traveled across the country. Now he
was at a hotel and he had sent these messages.
The police had an encounter with him. They actually went
to the hotel, had a conversation with him, did a
welfare check, and then he proceeded to keep sending. It's
(01:23):
like they, I guess, decided not to apprehend him or
detain him at that time, and then he kept going.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Right, Well, they warned him and he did he kept going.
But now he has a no contact order and he's
got to stay away from Gamebridge in all Indiana Fever events.
But he continued to send her messages via social media.
He said he got banned from Gamebridge, but maybe he'll
(01:50):
go to road games. Yikes, that's scary for her.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, the judge, I think, even alluded to this that
the guy has some mental health issues, obviously. And I'm
trying to read the Star article and I thought I
thought there was something where the judge had said something
about him needing to get mental health you know, evaluation
or help or whatever. And I'll try to try to
(02:16):
find that I'm not seeing in the article I'm looking
at from you. But anyway, I mean, the guy has
you know, some serious issues that are going to need to
be vetted out beyond just being incarcerated. It obviously takes
him off the street, which is good, but it does
also underscore, right, like everybody thinks it's cool to be
in the public eye, thinks it's cool to be a
public figure. Wouldn't it be neat to have people recognize
(02:37):
you when you go places, or people want your autograph
or want your picture. There's also a lot of people
that that are just completely messed up in this world
and want to do harm. Yeah, and you know, for
someone like her, she's not bringing the heat on anybody.
She's just some person out there playing basketball. And you
(02:59):
feel really bad for her because she subjected to something
like this when all she wants to do is just
entertain people and give people a good time.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. I think about this, like, you know, everybody always
comments on how popular and how skilled she is athletically
and how much money she has for all of the
brands that she's promoting. But at the same time, you
have to think this was a twenty two year old
woman in a strange town who just moved here, recent
college graduate, and you've got this guy sending her creepy
(03:31):
messages who's in an imaginary relationship with her, Like it
kind of brings it back down to like, yeah, she's
just a young woman who's starting out in her career
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, think about this, she's basically the same age as
your daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
She is the same age as my daughter who has
just moved across the country starting her career.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you just touched on a great point, which is
we lose sight of this not just with her, but
with these athletes collectively because we see them as super
like because of the attention and you get. You see
them because they're in an adult world and they're in
an industry which is consumed by adults, that you lose
sight of the fact that picture what you were like, right,
(04:12):
Like I think about all the like when I was
twenty three or twenty four years old. I started my
first business at twenty two, but in terms of so
I had a pretty good hand and then ended up
being a pretty successful business. And I bought a radio
station at twenty four, So I had a pretty good
understanding of the adult world. But don't even think about
(04:32):
like all the stupid stuff I did, Like what I've
been able to handle the magnitude of it's one thing
known a couple of businesses and buy some stuff and whatever.
But the magnitude at that age of being the navigate
that right, like, you lose sight of the fact that
these people they don't I mean, you get experience over time,
they don't just PLoP you down and then you have
to do this. Obviously she is as she elevated, but
(04:56):
all of these people, we lose sight of the fact
that they are basically just young kids. And think about
what you doing at that age.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right when I think about that, and when I was
twenty two, I mean I was living in an underground apartment.
We called it the subterranean chalet because it was the
kind that had just a little window that was ground level,
and you know, I had like a mattress on the
floor because I didn't have a bed frame. You know,
you're just starting out those sort of things and you're
trying to navigate. Oh my gosh, this is how I
(05:22):
learned to pay bills and just provide for yourself out
of your parents' house. Now, obviously she's got a much
much larger, substantial paycheck in which to help her enable
that situation, but still just a young person and you've
(05:43):
got this guy who's being a total creeper, and it
also shows that, you know, just the online harassment, how
it can turn into the real world situation.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and you lose. Look, it's what you give up.
And it's like, don't cry for me, Argentine. These people
live charmed lives, but you give up. You don't realize
how much you need normalcy until you don't have it.
And these people give up, whether it's a Kaitlin Clark
or the Taylor Swifts or you know, any athlete right
(06:16):
of any sort of high profile give up. There really
sounds weird to say, but like they're right to normalcy.
Like that's the trade off is you get all this money,
you get this fame, and get this agulation, get this stuff,
You get this lavish lifestyle, and you can turn it off.
Like when you're not in season, you can in the
off season go retreat to whatever compound you've got, right.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But in season, you can't go into an Rby's right,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You simply you give up the ability to do that.
And it's just something we lose sight of until something
like this hits and you realize there are nutbags out
there there are crazy people?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Did you know that she was dealing with this? How
does it affect her gameplay and her environment around her
teammates because she's living in fear when she's unprotected true.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Drew asked on the YouTube, has anyone ever asked me
for my autograph at the night with WIBC. Yes, I
kind of think it, like, we get a lot of pictures,
people want to take pictures.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't think I'm famous enough that people would want
my signature, Like it's not going to appreciate in value.
But we do get a lot of people who want
pictures or whatever. People want to come up and talk,
And I don't pretend to any anyway be close to
anything to this, although we do get a lot of
people who hate us, and we do get a lot
of fun things in the mail and things like that,
but nothing we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Have had threats before. I don't think, yeah, I've been
asked for my autograph before. More than anything, what I
noticed is people, what do you think of this?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, because they hear us talking about it every day,
and then you know, like my neighbor is always asking
me
We have a resolution in this case. By the way,
it's Kenlln Casey Show and Rob Casey's here. Thank you
for joining us today. We have a resolution in the
case of the man who was charged with what stalking
Caitland Clark Rank Clark.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, so, Michael Lewis is his name. He's from Texas.
He was sentenced to two and a half years in
prison after he pled guilty to threatening and harassing her.
He sent some explicit and violent messages to her via
social media for about a year, and he received the
maximum sentence for his felony charge. Two and a half
(00:34):
years doesn't seem like very long to me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, yeah, and you know, obviously a variety of things
go into it. What there was a plea deal obviously,
so you get a reduced whatever. Now, some feeszing things
came out The Indie Star amongst others. Have you know,
big expose as on this if you want to read
all about it. One that was interesting was this guy
traveled from Dallas, the Dallas area to Indianapolis. He was
(00:59):
in Indianapolis when the police encountered him. So very serious, right,
I mean, it's not just some guy in his bedroom
doing something. He had traveled across the country. Now he
was at a hotel and he had sent these messages.
The police had an encounter with him. They actually went
to the hotel, had a conversation with him, did a
welfare check, and then he proceeded to keep sending. It's
(01:23):
like they, I guess, decided not to apprehend him or
detain him at that time, and then he kept going.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Right, Well, they warned him and he did he kept going.
But now he has a no contact order and he's
got to stay away from Gamebridge in all Indiana Fever events.
But he continued to send her messages via social media.
He said he got banned from Gamebridge, but maybe he'll
(01:50):
go to road games. Yikes, that's scary for her.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, the judge, I think, even alluded to this that
the guy has some mental health issues, obviously. And I'm
trying to read the Star article and I thought I
thought there was something where the judge had said something
about him needing to get mental health you know, evaluation
or help or whatever. And I'll try to try to
(02:16):
find that I'm not seeing in the article I'm looking
at from you. But anyway, I mean, the guy has
you know, some serious issues that are going to need to
be vetted out beyond just being incarcerated. It obviously takes
him off the street, which is good, but it does
also underscore, right, like everybody thinks it's cool to be
in the public eye, thinks it's cool to be a
public figure. Wouldn't it be neat to have people recognize
(02:37):
you when you go places, or people want your autograph
or want your picture. There's also a lot of people
that that are just completely messed up in this world
and want to do harm. Yeah, and you know, for
someone like her, she's not bringing the heat on anybody.
She's just some person out there playing basketball. And you
(02:59):
feel really bad for her because she subjected to something
like this when all she wants to do is just
entertain people and give people a good time.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. I think about this, like, you know, everybody always
comments on how popular and how skilled she is athletically
and how much money she has for all of the
brands that she's promoting. But at the same time, you
have to think this was a twenty two year old
woman in a strange town who just moved here, recent
college graduate, and you've got this guy sending her creepy
(03:31):
messages who's in an imaginary relationship with her, Like it
kind of brings it back down to like, yeah, she's
just a young woman who's starting out in her career
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, think about this, she's basically the same age as
your daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
She is the same age as my daughter who has
just moved across the country starting her career.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you just touched on a great point, which is
we lose sight of this not just with her, but
with these athletes collectively because we see them as super
like because of the attention and you get. You see
them because they're in an adult world and they're in
an industry which is consumed by adults, that you lose
sight of the fact that picture what you were like, right,
(04:12):
Like I think about all the like when I was
twenty three or twenty four years old. I started my
first business at twenty two, but in terms of so
I had a pretty good hand and then ended up
being a pretty successful business. And I bought a radio
station at twenty four, So I had a pretty good
understanding of the adult world. But don't even think about
(04:32):
like all the stupid stuff I did, Like what I've
been able to handle the magnitude of it's one thing
known a couple of businesses and buy some stuff and whatever.
But the magnitude at that age of being the navigate
that right, like, you lose sight of the fact that
these people they don't I mean, you get experience over time,
they don't just PLoP you down and then you have
to do this. Obviously she is as she elevated, but
(04:56):
all of these people, we lose sight of the fact
that they are basically just young kids. And think about
what you doing at that age.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right when I think about that, and when I was
twenty two, I mean I was living in an underground apartment.
We called it the subterranean chalet because it was the
kind that had just a little window that was ground level,
and you know, I had like a mattress on the
floor because I didn't have a bed frame. You know,
you're just starting out those sort of things and you're
trying to navigate. Oh my gosh, this is how I
(05:22):
learned to pay bills and just provide for yourself out
of your parents' house. Now, obviously she's got a much
much larger, substantial paycheck in which to help her enable
that situation, but still just a young person and you've
(05:43):
got this guy who's being a total creeper, and it
also shows that, you know, just the online harassment, how
it can turn into the real world situation.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and you lose. Look, it's what you give up.
And it's like, don't cry for me, Argentine. These people
live charmed lives, but you give up. You don't realize
how much you need normalcy until you don't have it.
And these people give up, whether it's a Kaitlin Clark
or the Taylor Swifts or you know, any athlete right
(06:16):
of any sort of high profile give up. There really
sounds weird to say, but like they're right to normalcy.
Like that's the trade off is you get all this money,
you get this fame, and get this agulation, get this stuff,
You get this lavish lifestyle, and you can turn it off.
Like when you're not in season, you can in the
off season go retreat to whatever compound you've got, right.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But in season, you can't go into an Rby's right,
you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You simply you give up the ability to do that.
And it's just something we lose sight of until something
like this hits and you realize there are nutbags out
there there are crazy people?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Did you know that she was dealing with this? How
does it affect her gameplay and her environment around her
teammates because she's living in fear when she's unprotected true.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Drew asked on the YouTube, has anyone ever asked me
for my autograph at the night with WIBC. Yes, I
kind of think it, like, we get a lot of pictures,
people want to take pictures.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't think I'm famous enough that people would want
my signature, Like it's not going to appreciate in value.
But we do get a lot of people who want
pictures or whatever. People want to come up and talk,
And I don't pretend to any anyway be close to
anything to this, although we do get a lot of
people who hate us, and we do get a lot
of fun things in the mail and things like that,
but nothing we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Have had threats before. I don't think, yeah, I've been
asked for my autograph before. More than anything, what I
noticed is people, what do you think of this?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, because they hear us talking about it every day,
and then you know, like my neighbor is always asking
me
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