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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got some good news this morning, casing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, Democrats in Indiana may finally be about to get
their act together.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Maybe he thinks so big.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Maybe it's a big maybe, but at least they're at
least they're taking the first step in this process.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah. So Bo Baye, son of former Senator and Governor
Evan By, has officially filed to run for Indiana Secretary
of State.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, so one of the major there's a couple
problems with the Democrats in Indiana and why they find
themselves in the position they're in. Number one, Their national
party has drifted so radically left that in swing or
certainly red states, people just look at that and go, eh, no, thanks.
(00:46):
And how many times have we heard from people who say, sure,
I get that the Republicans are raising my taxes, I
get the corruption I had, Like, I'm not fighting you
at all these things you're telling me. I just can't
bring myself to ponder even ponder letting these insane people,
you know, in charge of anything, so that you know,
that's the first problem they have. The second problem is
(01:10):
and in a place like Indiana, which is a red state,
it's stems sort of from the top, which is you're
not getting You're not getting money that's flowing in because
Indiana has become a red state. And when their Democrats
look at, hey, where are we going to you know,
spend our dollars, Where are we going to push out
where we're going to put people on the ground, They're
going to do it in these places. The Pennsylvania is right,
(01:33):
They're just that they're saying, look, the ROI is not
worth the the you know, the ROI is not there.
And so then you get the third part of this equation,
which is you don't get good people running. I mean,
you get bad candidates, You get people who can't fund raise,
you get people who don't connect, you get messages that
don't resonate, and so then you get these Republican super
(01:56):
majorities as a result, in which the party in power
believes they're invincible and they just start serving the donors
and the lobbyist because they go, what are you going
to do about it? And so hopefully bo Bye's announcement
that he's going to run for Secretary of State, which
is the big anchialada next year in the state of
Indiana in the midterms, will number one at least finally
(02:17):
will get some sort of competitive race where we've actually
got to talk about things and talk about things that
matter and talk about who the Republicans are and how
they've run our state. But also maybe it will force
the rest of the Democrats to elevate their game. So for
state treasure, they get somebody competent. For comptroller, they get
somebody competent for a lot of these down ballot, these
(02:39):
congressional races, the state House seats, the state Senate seats,
they get people who actually can let us have an
important conversation about how the Republicans have run the state
the last twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Years, right, because the competition will make everybody else better.
Here is bo Baie on his announcement to run for
secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey, I'm bo Bye.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm a seventh generation and I served our country as
a captain in the United States manum and now I'm
running to be our secretary of State to take on
a corrupt office and fix a broken political system that
doesn't serve us.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The secretary of State's office.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Is exactly what's wrong with our politics. Instead of serving
Hoosier's that office has been used to cut backroom deals
with our tax dollars, handing out perks to politicians and
their insider friends.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Who just work hard for our money.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's being wasted.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There's no accountability.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
We deserve a Secretary of State that works for the people,
not himself. So here's my plan.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
First, all right, I'm not going to plan infomercial for
the guy.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Well right.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He said he was raised to believe public service is
actually about serving the public, not the party, and certainly
not yourself. And he promises accountability and transparency and government spending.
He vowed to expose corruption and waste, oppose burdens some taxes.
Because Secretary of State has no control over that, he
can just oppose it. I don't like this, and of
(03:58):
course oversee fair and secure elections and support small business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, you know it's gonna be fast, because obviously there
is a Republican convention. Dave Shelton is running against Diego Morales.
I think he'll I think he'll do all right. I
just don't I don't know if he's got it necessary
to convince these delegates to get the right side of.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The Indianapolis bubble. I believe Diego Morales is still somewhat popular,
but when you go to northern Indiana, especially around Goshen
and Elkhart.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
They like him.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, And I did an interview on WJOB, which is
a big station up in the region, a couple of
weeks ago, and they said that, they said, we get
our info from you a lot of times, and you know,
then we're relaying stuff and they got a great morning
show up there. But they said, this stuff just doesn't
exist like it exists in your orbit. Because you guys
(04:46):
talk about the twenty five counties or whatever. People can
hear WIBC. But you're right. So if we make the
step which hey, David Shelton would be a phenomenal Secretary
of State. He actually has qualified to do the job.
He's very competent guy. But let's just assume for the
sake of this conversation that it is Diego versus bow Bye.
(05:08):
Now we finally get to have the conversation about who
the Republicans are. We get to have the conversation about
how Diego Morales has used and abused that office. We
get to have the conversation about how people like Mike
Brawn and Todd Roketa and Micah beckw and Daniel Elliott
and Alista Shalla and Rod Bray and Todd Houston, who
know exactly who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They know exactly what Diego is.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They know exactly what a dirty, rotten, corrupt, unethical person
he is. They've done nothing why because.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
They're getting a slice of the pie.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The money that touches Diego touches everybody else. And they
can't lose the office. The office, the politics is always
more important to these people than doing what's right. And
so with bow bye, for the first time in a
long time, the Democrats will have a candidate who won.
We'll be able to raise the money necessary, and Diego
(05:58):
may not want a tell who paid for any of
the buys. Are gonna find out, I have no doubt
the buys or go find out who paid for that
trip to India and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Okay, well, they've got the money to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
There are some other candidates running for Secretary of State.
You have Blith Potter, who is also in the military,
so that's a wash.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
She's running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
She is running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And one thing that she has been pointing out, she's
really trying to grow her social media base right now,
because I don't know if she has all the money
in the reserves to fight along the lines that Bobie has.
But she has been saying already that bo Bye, she's
calling into question his residency.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Does he actually live here? Is he a hoosier?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And something else that people are already pointing out is
that the audio that we played, the video that Bobie
released to announces run, there's no disclaimer on that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, okay, so first of all, people have got to
think of this in a broad picture, right by the
way we did the math. All we got to do
if you take the twenty twenty two Secretary of States race,
because Desney Well is about a bat of a candidate
you could possibly be. So Diego's not gonna do any
better than you know. That's the baseline, right, and Diego's
only gotten more exposed since then. He won by two
(07:13):
hundred and fifty thousand votes, which means my little pet
project for the next year, Casey is going to figure
out how to take one hundred and twenty five thousand
people and convince them to change change their mind. Now,
you got to think of this in the broader picture,
which is if you will re elect Diego Morales. You
are saying if you vote for him, if you vote
(07:33):
for Diego Morales and you put him back in office.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You're saying it's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're saying all it's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The corruption, the unethical behavior, the lies, the deceit, and
this guy he sucks at his job anyway, Like, don't
you have to stand up for yourself at some point.
I'm not saying I've talked to Bobai a little bit
and he seems like a very nice guy, but I'm
not in love with the guy. I know what you're
probably getting into, but gosh, Darna, at some point, don't
you have to say enough is enough with this Republican corruption.
(08:00):
It's all a part of the same disease Casey Diego,
the IDC, all of this stuff. It comes from the
same feeling of arrogance and invincibility, because the Republicans believe
no matter how much they abuse you, no matter how
much crap they shove into your face, you will keep
rolling over and saying, give me more of it. This
will be the time I really want, I really want
(08:23):
the bow by Diego Morales campaign. Look, I'd be fine
if David Shelton. Wendy's a nice guy, do a good
job of the office. But this is such a bigger conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
When does it stop? When do we stopped telling these
Republicans this behavior.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is okay, Well, this make the party start sinking more
money into Diego Morales now that they think he might have.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
A legitimate challenger.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean with buy you've got the name recognition or
is that name recognition gonna turn people off because it
seems very dynastic.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well but okay, so this was I saw this post
and by the way, the mental gymnastics people are doing
now in their mind start processing how do I support Diego.
It's funny because some person said something about abortion, and
I said, okay, I'll take the bait on that. What
does the Secretary of State have to do with abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
The question was, you say you're gonna vote for Diego
(09:14):
because of abortion. What has Diego done on abortion? Blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh so nothing,
And this will be fun. It'll be a fun exercise
for our show the next year to see these people
twist themselves into mental pretzels to condone voting for what
they know is corrupt, unethical, dirty, rotten behavior. And you're
(09:38):
gonna get this now because he looked he being bo Ba,
he looks straight out of Central Casting. He's got the pedigree,
he's got the resume. And if for no other reason,
wouldn't it be fun to just let a Democrat open
the doors to the Secretary of State's office so we
can see, don't you want to know? Don't you want
(09:58):
to know the answers to all these things about how
corrupt and rotten the Republicans are?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Who paid for the trip to India? Will bo By
find out? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So anyway, I think this is gonna be fascinating. It
is cool debate, Well that that'll be the uh that
that'll we'll see if because Diego refused last time, because
there is no defense of Diego and he knows if
he has to get on a stage and answer for
India and Hungary and was it Vancouver and uh, the
(10:30):
car and the brother in law and you know, all
those all those things, but that's not gonna go very
well for him. So at least now we've got a ballgame.
Can the Democrats get their act together and find like
individuals to run on a ticket with this guy, because look,
if you put a bunch of these Destiny Wells styled
nut jobs around him, you're gonna drag him down.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You got to.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Get even if they just sit in the shadows and
say nothing, you got to get a slate full of
people who can focus on the issues. They can talk
about one thing, and that is competency in government and
the corruption of the Republicans the past ten fifteen years.
That should be the whole campaign.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So we've been mentioning that Dave Shelton is running, and
you've got Diego Morales running, Jamie Rittenaur is running, and
also bo Bie blithe Potter.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
And did you know there's a libertarian.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Running as Lori Shillings is her name? That's right, yeah,
Lori Shillings.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Who knew the Secretary of State was such a popular
position to run for it?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, Diego has proven it's a pretty big You can
have a lot of fun with other people's money.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Apparently, you can
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Do a lot of traveling on someone else's dime.
We got some good news this morning, casing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, Democrats in Indiana may finally be about to get
their act together.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Maybe he thinks so big.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Maybe it's a big maybe, but at least they're at
least they're taking the first step in this process.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah. So Bo Baye, son of former Senator and Governor
Evan By, has officially filed to run for Indiana Secretary
of State.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, so one of the major there's a couple
problems with the Democrats in Indiana and why they find
themselves in the position they're in. Number one, Their national
party has drifted so radically left that in swing or
certainly red states, people just look at that and go, eh, no, thanks.
(00:46):
And how many times have we heard from people who say, sure,
I get that the Republicans are raising my taxes, I
get the corruption I had, Like, I'm not fighting you
at all these things you're telling me. I just can't
bring myself to ponder even ponder letting these insane people,
you know, in charge of anything, so that you know,
that's the first problem they have. The second problem is
(01:10):
and in a place like Indiana, which is a red state,
it's stems sort of from the top, which is you're
not getting You're not getting money that's flowing in because
Indiana has become a red state. And when their Democrats
look at, hey, where are we going to you know,
spend our dollars, Where are we going to push out
where we're going to put people on the ground, They're
going to do it in these places. The Pennsylvania is right,
(01:33):
They're just that they're saying, look, the ROI is not
worth the the you know, the ROI is not there.
And so then you get the third part of this equation,
which is you don't get good people running. I mean,
you get bad candidates, You get people who can't fund raise,
you get people who don't connect, you get messages that
don't resonate, and so then you get these Republican super
(01:56):
majorities as a result, in which the party in power
believes they're invincible and they just start serving the donors
and the lobbyist because they go, what are you going
to do about it? And so hopefully bo Bye's announcement
that he's going to run for Secretary of State, which
is the big anchialada next year in the state of
Indiana in the midterms, will number one at least finally
(02:17):
will get some sort of competitive race where we've actually
got to talk about things and talk about things that
matter and talk about who the Republicans are and how
they've run our state. But also maybe it will force
the rest of the Democrats to elevate their game. So for
state treasure, they get somebody competent. For comptroller, they get
somebody competent for a lot of these down ballot, these
(02:39):
congressional races, the state House seats, the state Senate seats,
they get people who actually can let us have an
important conversation about how the Republicans have run the state
the last twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Years, right, because the competition will make everybody else better.
Here is bo Baie on his announcement to run for
secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey, I'm bo Bye.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm a seventh generation and I served our country as
a captain in the United States manum and now I'm
running to be our secretary of State to take on
a corrupt office and fix a broken political system that
doesn't serve us.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The secretary of State's office.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Is exactly what's wrong with our politics. Instead of serving
Hoosier's that office has been used to cut backroom deals
with our tax dollars, handing out perks to politicians and
their insider friends.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Who just work hard for our money.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's being wasted.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There's no accountability.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
We deserve a Secretary of State that works for the people,
not himself. So here's my plan.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
First, all right, I'm not going to plan infomercial for
the guy.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Well right.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He said he was raised to believe public service is
actually about serving the public, not the party, and certainly
not yourself. And he promises accountability and transparency and government spending.
He vowed to expose corruption and waste, oppose burdens some taxes.
Because Secretary of State has no control over that, he
can just oppose it. I don't like this, and of
(03:58):
course oversee fair and secure elections and support small business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, you know it's gonna be fast, because obviously there
is a Republican convention. Dave Shelton is running against Diego Morales.
I think he'll I think he'll do all right. I
just don't I don't know if he's got it necessary
to convince these delegates to get the right side of.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The Indianapolis bubble. I believe Diego Morales is still somewhat popular,
but when you go to northern Indiana, especially around Goshen
and Elkhart.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
They like him.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, And I did an interview on WJOB, which is
a big station up in the region, a couple of
weeks ago, and they said that, they said, we get
our info from you a lot of times, and you know,
then we're relaying stuff and they got a great morning
show up there. But they said, this stuff just doesn't
exist like it exists in your orbit. Because you guys
(04:46):
talk about the twenty five counties or whatever. People can
hear WIBC. But you're right. So if we make the
step which hey, David Shelton would be a phenomenal Secretary
of State. He actually has qualified to do the job.
He's very competent guy. But let's just assume for the
sake of this conversation that it is Diego versus bow Bye.
(05:08):
Now we finally get to have the conversation about who
the Republicans are. We get to have the conversation about
how Diego Morales has used and abused that office. We
get to have the conversation about how people like Mike
Brawn and Todd Roketa and Micah beckw and Daniel Elliott
and Alista Shalla and Rod Bray and Todd Houston, who
know exactly who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They know exactly what Diego is.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They know exactly what a dirty, rotten, corrupt, unethical person
he is. They've done nothing why because.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
They're getting a slice of the pie.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The money that touches Diego touches everybody else. And they
can't lose the office. The office, the politics is always
more important to these people than doing what's right. And
so with bow bye, for the first time in a
long time, the Democrats will have a candidate who won.
We'll be able to raise the money necessary, and Diego
(05:58):
may not want a tell who paid for any of
the buys. Are gonna find out, I have no doubt
the buys or go find out who paid for that
trip to India and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Okay, well, they've got the money to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
There are some other candidates running for Secretary of State.
You have Blith Potter, who is also in the military,
so that's a wash.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
She's running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
She is running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And one thing that she has been pointing out, she's
really trying to grow her social media base right now,
because I don't know if she has all the money
in the reserves to fight along the lines that Bobie has.
But she has been saying already that bo Bye, she's
calling into question his residency.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Does he actually live here? Is he a hoosier?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And something else that people are already pointing out is
that the audio that we played, the video that Bobie
released to announces run, there's no disclaimer on that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, okay, so first of all, people have got to
think of this in a broad picture, right by the
way we did the math. All we got to do
if you take the twenty twenty two Secretary of States race,
because Desney Well is about a bat of a candidate
you could possibly be. So Diego's not gonna do any
better than you know. That's the baseline, right, and Diego's
only gotten more exposed since then. He won by two
(07:13):
hundred and fifty thousand votes, which means my little pet
project for the next year, Casey is going to figure
out how to take one hundred and twenty five thousand
people and convince them to change change their mind. Now,
you got to think of this in the broader picture,
which is if you will re elect Diego Morales. You
are saying if you vote for him, if you vote
(07:33):
for Diego Morales and you put him back in office.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You're saying it's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're saying all it's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The corruption, the unethical behavior, the lies, the deceit, and
this guy he sucks at his job anyway, Like, don't
you have to stand up for yourself at some point.
I'm not saying I've talked to Bobai a little bit
and he seems like a very nice guy, but I'm
not in love with the guy. I know what you're
probably getting into, but gosh, Darna, at some point, don't
you have to say enough is enough with this Republican corruption.
(08:00):
It's all a part of the same disease Casey Diego,
the IDC, all of this stuff. It comes from the
same feeling of arrogance and invincibility, because the Republicans believe
no matter how much they abuse you, no matter how
much crap they shove into your face, you will keep
rolling over and saying, give me more of it. This
will be the time I really want, I really want
(08:23):
the bow by Diego Morales campaign. Look, I'd be fine
if David Shelton. Wendy's a nice guy, do a good
job of the office. But this is such a bigger conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
When does it stop? When do we stopped telling these
Republicans this behavior.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is okay, Well, this make the party start sinking more
money into Diego Morales now that they think he might have.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
A legitimate challenger.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean with buy you've got the name recognition or
is that name recognition gonna turn people off because it
seems very dynastic.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well but okay, so this was I saw this post
and by the way, the mental gymnastics people are doing
now in their mind start processing how do I support Diego.
It's funny because some person said something about abortion, and
I said, okay, I'll take the bait on that. What
does the Secretary of State have to do with abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
The question was, you say you're gonna vote for Diego
(09:14):
because of abortion. What has Diego done on abortion? Blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh so nothing,
And this will be fun. It'll be a fun exercise
for our show the next year to see these people
twist themselves into mental pretzels to condone voting for what
they know is corrupt, unethical, dirty, rotten behavior. And you're
(09:38):
gonna get this now because he looked he being bo Ba,
he looks straight out of Central Casting. He's got the pedigree,
he's got the resume. And if for no other reason,
wouldn't it be fun to just let a Democrat open
the doors to the Secretary of State's office so we
can see, don't you want to know? Don't you want
(09:58):
to know the answers to all these things about how
corrupt and rotten the Republicans are?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Who paid for the trip to India? Will bo By
find out? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So anyway, I think this is gonna be fascinating. It
is cool debate, Well that that'll be the uh that
that'll we'll see if because Diego refused last time, because
there is no defense of Diego and he knows if
he has to get on a stage and answer for
India and Hungary and was it Vancouver and uh, the
(10:30):
car and the brother in law and you know, all
those all those things, but that's not gonna go very
well for him. So at least now we've got a ballgame.
Can the Democrats get their act together and find like
individuals to run on a ticket with this guy, because look,
if you put a bunch of these Destiny Wells styled
nut jobs around him, you're gonna drag him down.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You got to.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Get even if they just sit in the shadows and
say nothing, you got to get a slate full of
people who can focus on the issues. They can talk
about one thing, and that is competency in government and
the corruption of the Republicans the past ten fifteen years.
That should be the whole campaign.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So we've been mentioning that Dave Shelton is running, and
you've got Diego Morales running, Jamie Rittenaur is running, and
also bo Bie blithe Potter.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
And did you know there's a libertarian.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Running as Lori Shillings is her name? That's right, yeah,
Lori Shillings.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Who knew the Secretary of State was such a popular
position to run for it?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, Diego has proven it's a pretty big You can
have a lot of fun with other people's money.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Apparently, you can
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Do a lot of traveling on someone else's dime.
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