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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes,
because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which
the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors
and then they had.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The big press rally yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's very interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government
was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all
of the documents secret.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense, right,
it's the smell test of none of this makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And what I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By that is you have this guy who clearly was
involved in some very bad behavior. Now keep in mind Epstein,
before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very
serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down
and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it
(00:55):
wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like
this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was
a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible
things to young women, and we're just acting like he
did it all for himself and no one else was involved.
(01:15):
And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't
come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't
we think the absolute worst.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So Massey and Conna.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky, Republican rote Conna a
Democrat represented from California.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the
federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution,
and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on
expanding the existing House over site Committee investigation.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, and this is the thing there, man, and Trump
is not helping, by the way. Trump continues to call
this all a hoax. He continues to make it all
about himself, and people are looking at this going, dude,
it's not a hoax. Epstein was a real dude. He
really did some stuff. For you to act like that
didn't happen, this is not Russia Gate, Like, we know
(02:15):
this guy lived, we know there are these women who
are victims. We know it wasn't just for Epstein's own
personal pleasure. And for you to say it's a hoax,
people are like one, totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you
come off as a complete ass because you're saying this
because you're somehow linked into it. Not linked into it
(02:36):
in the sense of he was doing any abusing of women,
but linked in to it in the fact that it
is clear that there was some relationship between Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
There's a couple of clips that I want to play
for you. The first one is the attorney for the
Epstein victims saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients
back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I'll go first, and then I'll let them. They're much
more important than me. But I don't understand why to
hostile act. I can tell you that I talked to
President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back in two thousand
and nine, and several times after that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
He didn't think that it was a hoax.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Then, in fact, he helped me. He got on the phone,
he told me things that were helping our investigation. Now
our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us.
Then he didn't treat this as a hoax. So at
this point in time, I would hope that he would
revert back to what he was saying to get elected,
which is I want transparency, this about face that occurred.
None of us understand it. In fact, I don't understand
(03:30):
how this is an issue that's even up for debate.
How do you not stand behind these women after you've
heard their stories and know that hundreds of them were
abused and it was only because files are being kept
in secrecy. The world should know who he is, who
protected him.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect examble.
Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, Like
he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office,
so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice
just in case you can't.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Steve Carell played this.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a
comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played
this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And
one of the things about the Michael Scott character is
he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive
(04:24):
or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed.
And there was there's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally
he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but
he's too lazy to leave the bed so he plugs
in his George Foreman grill next to his bed, yeah,
and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns his foot,
and he makes it out to be this like, you know,
(04:45):
he's been suffered, you know, third degree burns in a
fire or something, and the reality is like they're like,
just put some you know, cream on it, it'll be fine.
But he's hobbling around on crutches.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
He got his feet all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers
a series his head injury while going to check on
on Michael, and they have to take him to the hospital. Well,
Steve Carell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight, he
is supposed to be like his best good buddy, is
so inconvenience that he has to go help his friend.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And then when they.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Get to the hospital, they do what's called, is it,
the cat scan to see if there's any head injuries.
While he's there, he's trying to put his foot in
the cat scan machine because this writ being told by
multiple people.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This is not an issue. It's just a small burn.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It'll be fine, put some cream out it, he'll be okay.
He's so absorbed with himself. Everything is about him, and
this is Trump, right, nobody's saying no, No reasonable person
is saying that you were on Epstein Island.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We've kind of moved past that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think that's been even these women refuted, like, hey,
nobody did anything with Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's all been like, you're in the clear.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And instead of looking at that going hey and do anything,
let me help you however I can, because he's implicated
from the stamber of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like
not that you did anything nefarious with these women or
amuse young girls or anything. But he's so self absorbing
he can't stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey,
you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly
(06:07):
with a pretty rotten dude.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He has to make everything about him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
He's Michael Scott sticking his foot in the cat scan machine,
and he just can't stand the fact that he is.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
In any way looks bad.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And so he's being an obstructionist and totally demeaning these
women and these serious things versus just being a helper
and being done with it.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise
to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned,
some of these victims said, you know, note Donald Trump
was not there doing anything bad.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I do have to ask and I know, and it's
just something that I think were compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions
are on a part in did anybody see or hear
of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related
to Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No, no, yeah, so it's that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and
the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows
whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government
won't come clean on what he was, there is no
theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people
if you say, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, well,
(07:22):
to those people, why won't the government just tell us
what he was? Until the government is honest, then there
is no theory too extreme, because there's a reason.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's a reason I'm not saying he was Massad.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm saying until they come clean with that, every theory
is valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about
this guy. And I think it's bigger than just the
people that he engaged with. So if any person like
to have that conversation with me, I'd be more than
willing to have it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
One of the victims said that she was taken on
a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures.
A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that
they're going to be releasing their own client list. The
question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't
you before? And I think part of the answer to
that is because they were afraid they'll get more protection.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No nobody.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The problem casey now is there have been so many deceptions,
so many what are perceived as lies.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Nobody's going to believe whatever you show them anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that
massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're
still hiding things from the right
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You're still covering something up.
Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes,
because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which
the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors
and then they had.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The big press rally yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's very interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government
was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all
of the documents secret.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense, right,
it's the smell test of none of this makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And what I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By that is you have this guy who clearly was
involved in some very bad behavior. Now keep in mind Epstein,
before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very
serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down
and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it
(00:55):
wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like
this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was
a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible
things to young women, and we're just acting like he
did it all for himself and no one else was involved.
(01:15):
And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't
come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't
we think the absolute worst.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So Massey and Conna.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky, Republican rote Conna a
Democrat represented from California.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the
federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution,
and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on
expanding the existing House over site Committee investigation.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, and this is the thing there, man, and Trump
is not helping, by the way. Trump continues to call
this all a hoax. He continues to make it all
about himself, and people are looking at this going, dude,
it's not a hoax. Epstein was a real dude. He
really did some stuff. For you to act like that
didn't happen, this is not Russia Gate, Like, we know
(02:15):
this guy lived, we know there are these women who
are victims. We know it wasn't just for Epstein's own
personal pleasure. And for you to say it's a hoax,
people are like one, totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you
come off as a complete ass because you're saying this
because you're somehow linked into it. Not linked into it
(02:36):
in the sense of he was doing any abusing of women,
but linked in to it in the fact that it
is clear that there was some relationship between Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
There's a couple of clips that I want to play
for you. The first one is the attorney for the
Epstein victims saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients
back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I'll go first, and then I'll let them. They're much
more important than me. But I don't understand why to
hostile act. I can tell you that I talked to
President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back in two thousand
and nine, and several times after that.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
He didn't think that it was a hoax.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Then, in fact, he helped me. He got on the phone,
he told me things that were helping our investigation. Now
our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us.
Then he didn't treat this as a hoax. So at
this point in time, I would hope that he would
revert back to what he was saying to get elected,
which is I want transparency, this about face that occurred.
None of us understand it. In fact, I don't understand
(03:30):
how this is an issue that's even up for debate.
How do you not stand behind these women after you've
heard their stories and know that hundreds of them were
abused and it was only because files are being kept
in secrecy. The world should know who he is, who
protected him.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect examble.
Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, Like
he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office,
so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice
just in case you can't.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Steve Carell played this.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a
comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played
this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And
one of the things about the Michael Scott character is
he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive
(04:24):
or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed.
And there was there's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally
he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but
he's too lazy to leave the bed so he plugs
in his George Foreman grill next to his bed, yeah,
and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns his foot,
and he makes it out to be this like, you know,
(04:45):
he's been suffered, you know, third degree burns in a
fire or something, and the reality is like they're like,
just put some you know, cream on it, it'll be fine.
But he's hobbling around on crutches.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
He got his feet all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers
a series his head injury while going to check on
on Michael, and they have to take him to the hospital. Well,
Steve Carell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight, he
is supposed to be like his best good buddy, is
so inconvenience that he has to go help his friend.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And then when they.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Get to the hospital, they do what's called, is it,
the cat scan to see if there's any head injuries.
While he's there, he's trying to put his foot in
the cat scan machine because this writ being told by
multiple people.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This is not an issue. It's just a small burn.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It'll be fine, put some cream out it, he'll be okay.
He's so absorbed with himself. Everything is about him, and
this is Trump, right, nobody's saying no, No reasonable person
is saying that you were on Epstein Island.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We've kind of moved past that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think that's been even these women refuted, like, hey,
nobody did anything with Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's all been like, you're in the clear.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And instead of looking at that going hey and do anything,
let me help you however I can, because he's implicated
from the stamber of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like
not that you did anything nefarious with these women or
amuse young girls or anything. But he's so self absorbing
he can't stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey,
you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly
(06:07):
with a pretty rotten dude.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He has to make everything about him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
He's Michael Scott sticking his foot in the cat scan machine,
and he just can't stand the fact that he is.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
In any way looks bad.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And so he's being an obstructionist and totally demeaning these
women and these serious things versus just being a helper
and being done with it.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise
to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned,
some of these victims said, you know, note Donald Trump
was not there doing anything bad.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I do have to ask and I know, and it's
just something that I think were compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions
are on a part in did anybody see or hear
of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related
to Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No, no, yeah, so it's that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and
the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows
whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government
won't come clean on what he was, there is no
theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people
if you say, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, well,
(07:22):
to those people, why won't the government just tell us
what he was? Until the government is honest, then there
is no theory too extreme, because there's a reason.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's a reason I'm not saying he was Massad.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm saying until they come clean with that, every theory
is valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about
this guy. And I think it's bigger than just the
people that he engaged with. So if any person like
to have that conversation with me, I'd be more than
willing to have it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
One of the victims said that she was taken on
a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures.
A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that
they're going to be releasing their own client list. The
question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't
you before? And I think part of the answer to
that is because they were afraid they'll get more protection.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No nobody.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The problem casey now is there have been so many deceptions,
so many what are perceived as lies.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Nobody's going to believe whatever you show them anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that
massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're
still hiding things from the right
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You're still covering something up.
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