October 6, 2025 • 10 mins
WIBC's Ryan Hedrick joins Kendall and Casey to discuss the latest updates on the Mark Sanchez stabbing incident.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so we have an update.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ryan Meuher is having a press conference the Marion County
Prosecutor joining us now to get an update on what's
going on as a result of that press conference. Ryan
Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom. Ryan Hedrick, we had mentioned
this multiple times already today. We were shocked that these
were just misdemeanor charges. Apparently not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so Ryan Meuher is saying, about five minutes ago,
they have upgraded the battery to a felony, and I
think it's a level six punishable by maybe a year
in prison. These are now more serious charges. And given
the fact that this elderly man was sitting in a
neck brace in a hospital bed a photo shared by
(00:41):
his family to a media outlet here in Indianapolis, it's
no surprise to me that this guy has really severe
injuries that include a laceration on the side of his
face where there's a hole in his face and he
can't really even speak right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that was so damaging.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean multiple Max lew as many other people posted
those photos that came out but released by the victims family,
and I think that was what everybody said.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
These are missed to me. This is these this gets
you a miss to me.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a really quick cafey, David. I can
tell you I've been in the newsroom for more than
two years now. There have been many, many, many, many
stabbings on Saturday into Sunday, or Friday into Saturday, whatever.
None have warranted a press release from Ryan Mears's office
to us on Sunday morning. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ryan Hendrick from the WEC newsroom as our guest, we're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. At
least one of the charges now has been upgraded to
a felony.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, so that penalty range six months to two and
a half years in prison. At the advisory sentence is
one year fine up to ten thousand dollars, maybe suspended,
or he could be placed on probation. You went down
there and you talked to the people at Loft Miller's,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah? I did. I stopped at the Pronto p so
first I wanted to see if there's videos.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, this was Saturday r Yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was Saturday afternoon when the news broke. TMZ pushed this
out as a breaking news alert. We learned about it
about noon and then put a plan into action, led
by our news director John Herrick, who instructed us we
were in all different parts of the city trying to
gather news and push it out on air and online.
So I went down to Pronto Pizza along West Washington Street.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Right at that alley.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's not really an allio, it's more of a street,
but for the sake of this conversation and Ali, you
could see the loading docks and the blood started right
at the curb as you step up to go into Pronto,
So that's where the blood trail started and then trailed
off right before a mailbox. And people were telling me
that they were seeing this guy, which they later learned
(02:46):
was Mark Sanchez, banging on the window. I went into
that pub casey, that eatery right at the corner, and
I spoke to a woman named Kathy who was bartending
on the Saturday. She told me that the guy that
ultimately applied pressure to Sanchez was not in. He's also
the general manager, so he was working in the pub
(03:07):
closes at midnight. Sanchez rolled up at about twelve thirty
and that's when he started banging on the glass. The
bartender didn't even know who he was, He didn't know
what was say anything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did they say that, you know, I've been stabbed?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This habit of the Sanchez told him that he was shot,
and that was the original run for the call. The
original run if you look it up on the on
the Indianapolis Watch page, which they do a good job
of chronicling the scanner, the original run was a shooting
and not a stabbing. They only learned that it was
a stabbing when they got to the pub and saw
(03:43):
Sanchez had lacerations on his crotch, on his chest and
I think on his arm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom is our guest. He,
along with the rest of the WIBC news team, did
a phenomenal job getting this story out over the weekend.
We'll talk a little bit about the mistigation that he did. Okay,
So you do this fabulous podcast it's called Supporting Sobriety
and which you and Matt Bear talk a lot about
your own struggles with various addictions and so you know
(04:14):
what alcohol does to a person. Can you take us
through a little bit with your experiences? I mean, because
what could have happened to make him this mad at
this guy he didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, it's called liquid courage for a reason. So when
you drink, you don't feel any pain, you don't even
remember anything. And I remember, I'm not a tough guy.
Nobody ever taught me at a fight. But I could
remember stepping up to people and challenging them to fights
when I was drunk, and sometimes I would win and
sometimes I wouldn't. But one thing I knew for sure
(04:49):
is that I didn't remember anything. When I woke up.
People would tell me tall tales about what happened. I
knew nothing about what happened when I used to fight
when I was drunk. So assuming that alcohol was the
only thing in his system, he very well could have
been enraged and not known that he was fighting an
elderly guy. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Do we know what he was doing in the alley
and why he was so upset that the delivery truck
was parked where it was?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The AFFI David said that he was running sprints in
the alley. Now, assuming that he was staying at the Weston,
and assuming that he was drinking at some place that
wasn't the pub, that he sought help from probably drinking
in the west and running sprints and maybe looking for
something else, maybe a lady of the night or drugs.
(05:38):
Who knows what happens when these guys get in town.
But I can tell you one thing. Alcohol is the
most dangerous drug. So I go from speculation to straight fact.
Alcohol is the most dangerous drug. It's the most insidious
and the public why is that, Well, because it's it's accepted.
It's accepted. Matt Bear and I get get into this
(05:59):
all the time. He's like, why wasn't cool enough to
have a drug dealer? Well, your drug dealer was the
corner store that's open until twelve o'clock every night in Indiana,
so you can walk in and get alcohol. It's not
like if I were to go out and cop coke
or heroin from the east Side and try to do
a shady drug deal in an alley. You can walk
into a liquor store and get your drug a choice.
(06:22):
That's why it's so insidious, because people don't think they
have a problem if they can continue their using because
it's justified and accepted.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Many people are commenting that Ryan Meher's Marion County prosecutor,
is now speaking out, although he's been quiet on many
things for the past three years. Why now, why this story?
Is it because the NFL, a billion dollar company, is involved.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's embarrassing for Indianapolis when TMZ has this as their
front page story for the better part of twelve hours
on a Saturday, when the news cycle is relatively slow
in Indianapolis and violence are synonymous in Google searches. I
think this is a career case for Ryan Meres. I
think we know he's going to run for mayor. He's
already doing like secret parties to raise money. Joe howg
(07:08):
set may be raising money And if you're Ryan Meres,
a feather in your cap would be prosecuting a former
NFL quarterback who violently assaulted in elderly man. I mean,
what's the better story for him leading into a possible
mayoral run.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, So from your like, I mean from your investigation
that you've done, and you guys have been on this
all weekend. Do they they being the Prosecutor's office, I mean,
as you mentioned, they moved on this very quickly. Do
they feel like they got a pretty good case?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, because they have a kid evidence.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I contacted the management company that manage I forgot
what management company it is, but they own the whole
block from Pronto Pizza all the way east to the
pub and beyond. There's one company that controls those video cameras,
and assuming looking at the cameras that I was looking at,
they have them at north, southeast and west. All cameras
(08:03):
are trained on that loading dock and back at the west.
And there's no ankle that's not covered. And presumably what
Sanchez did was throw this guy into the dumpster, throw
him down to the ground, push him, kick him, punch him.
He did everything short of like choke him out. This
guy was so terrified he said in the AFFI David
(08:23):
that he thought that Sanchez was gonna kill him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So is it from all the stuff that you've read
and the pieces were putting together here and obviously these
charges one has been upgraded to a felony that he
may have just been so unaware of who he was
and what he was doing that, like you had said
with your encounters, perhaps I mean, there was no thing
that triggered it. He was just in a horrible state.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I could tell you real quick. I was in
a violent fight at a house club house music at
a club in Washington, d C. After like three o'clock
one night, and I remember punching and kicking this guy,
and this guy split my ear with like the tip
of a knife. And every when I woke up at
a friend's house the next day, everybody's like, what the
heck happened? I'm like, what do you mean would happen?
(09:05):
I knew nothing except I had a band aid on
my ear, and people had told me how violent this
fight was and how long it went on for I
had no clue that I expended that much energy and
that this guy and I had been in a crazy fight.
So yeah, presumably Mark Sanchez could have like railed on
this guy and he probably woke up handcuffed to a.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Bed, a hospital bed, a hospital bed.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, you guys did a phenomenal job putting this together.
Like I said, the WBC News team collectively gave up
their weekends, went out, got all this information, and you're
one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Thanks man. If you for your listeners, follow me on
TikTok because there's about a two minute video where I
recount everything and I'm just telling people kind of what happens.
So follow me on TikTok Sure to cover number two.
It'd appreciate the following. You'll get all your information.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Wait you say that in English. I don't have TikTok sure.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To cover too. It's TikTok and app a video. TikTok yah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Follow on that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Follow me on TikTok, type in sure to cover, and
then number two my video pop up. It's been seen
more than one hundred and eight thousand times so far.
All right, thank you, Thanks guys. You're listening to Kendle
and Casey. It is ninety three w IBC
Okay, so we have an update.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ryan Meuher is having a press conference the Marion County
Prosecutor joining us now to get an update on what's
going on as a result of that press conference. Ryan
Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom. Ryan Hedrick, we had mentioned
this multiple times already today. We were shocked that these
were just misdemeanor charges. Apparently not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so Ryan Meuher is saying, about five minutes ago,
they have upgraded the battery to a felony, and I
think it's a level six punishable by maybe a year
in prison. These are now more serious charges. And given
the fact that this elderly man was sitting in a
neck brace in a hospital bed a photo shared by
(00:41):
his family to a media outlet here in Indianapolis, it's
no surprise to me that this guy has really severe
injuries that include a laceration on the side of his
face where there's a hole in his face and he
can't really even speak right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that was so damaging.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean multiple Max lew as many other people posted
those photos that came out but released by the victims family,
and I think that was what everybody said.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
These are missed to me. This is these this gets
you a miss to me.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a really quick cafey, David. I can
tell you I've been in the newsroom for more than
two years now. There have been many, many, many, many
stabbings on Saturday into Sunday, or Friday into Saturday, whatever.
None have warranted a press release from Ryan Mears's office
to us on Sunday morning. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ryan Hendrick from the WEC newsroom as our guest, we're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. At
least one of the charges now has been upgraded to
a felony.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, so that penalty range six months to two and
a half years in prison. At the advisory sentence is
one year fine up to ten thousand dollars, maybe suspended,
or he could be placed on probation. You went down
there and you talked to the people at Loft Miller's,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah? I did. I stopped at the Pronto p so
first I wanted to see if there's videos.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, this was Saturday r Yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was Saturday afternoon when the news broke. TMZ pushed this
out as a breaking news alert. We learned about it
about noon and then put a plan into action, led
by our news director John Herrick, who instructed us we
were in all different parts of the city trying to
gather news and push it out on air and online.
So I went down to Pronto Pizza along West Washington Street.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Right at that alley.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's not really an allio, it's more of a street,
but for the sake of this conversation and Ali, you
could see the loading docks and the blood started right
at the curb as you step up to go into Pronto,
So that's where the blood trail started and then trailed
off right before a mailbox. And people were telling me
that they were seeing this guy, which they later learned
(02:46):
was Mark Sanchez, banging on the window. I went into
that pub casey, that eatery right at the corner, and
I spoke to a woman named Kathy who was bartending
on the Saturday. She told me that the guy that
ultimately applied pressure to Sanchez was not in. He's also
the general manager, so he was working in the pub
(03:07):
closes at midnight. Sanchez rolled up at about twelve thirty
and that's when he started banging on the glass. The
bartender didn't even know who he was, He didn't know
what was say anything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did they say that, you know, I've been stabbed?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This habit of the Sanchez told him that he was shot,
and that was the original run for the call. The
original run if you look it up on the on
the Indianapolis Watch page, which they do a good job
of chronicling the scanner, the original run was a shooting
and not a stabbing. They only learned that it was
a stabbing when they got to the pub and saw
(03:43):
Sanchez had lacerations on his crotch, on his chest and
I think on his arm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom is our guest. He,
along with the rest of the WIBC news team, did
a phenomenal job getting this story out over the weekend.
We'll talk a little bit about the mistigation that he did. Okay,
So you do this fabulous podcast it's called Supporting Sobriety
and which you and Matt Bear talk a lot about
your own struggles with various addictions and so you know
(04:14):
what alcohol does to a person. Can you take us
through a little bit with your experiences? I mean, because
what could have happened to make him this mad at
this guy he didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, it's called liquid courage for a reason. So when
you drink, you don't feel any pain, you don't even
remember anything. And I remember, I'm not a tough guy.
Nobody ever taught me at a fight. But I could
remember stepping up to people and challenging them to fights
when I was drunk, and sometimes I would win and
sometimes I wouldn't. But one thing I knew for sure
(04:49):
is that I didn't remember anything. When I woke up.
People would tell me tall tales about what happened. I
knew nothing about what happened when I used to fight
when I was drunk. So assuming that alcohol was the
only thing in his system, he very well could have
been enraged and not known that he was fighting an
elderly guy. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Do we know what he was doing in the alley
and why he was so upset that the delivery truck
was parked where it was?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The AFFI David said that he was running sprints in
the alley. Now, assuming that he was staying at the Weston,
and assuming that he was drinking at some place that
wasn't the pub, that he sought help from probably drinking
in the west and running sprints and maybe looking for
something else, maybe a lady of the night or drugs.
(05:38):
Who knows what happens when these guys get in town.
But I can tell you one thing. Alcohol is the
most dangerous drug. So I go from speculation to straight fact.
Alcohol is the most dangerous drug. It's the most insidious
and the public why is that, Well, because it's it's accepted.
It's accepted. Matt Bear and I get get into this
(05:59):
all the time. He's like, why wasn't cool enough to
have a drug dealer? Well, your drug dealer was the
corner store that's open until twelve o'clock every night in Indiana,
so you can walk in and get alcohol. It's not
like if I were to go out and cop coke
or heroin from the east Side and try to do
a shady drug deal in an alley. You can walk
into a liquor store and get your drug a choice.
(06:22):
That's why it's so insidious, because people don't think they
have a problem if they can continue their using because
it's justified and accepted.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Many people are commenting that Ryan Meher's Marion County prosecutor,
is now speaking out, although he's been quiet on many
things for the past three years. Why now, why this story?
Is it because the NFL, a billion dollar company, is involved.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's embarrassing for Indianapolis when TMZ has this as their
front page story for the better part of twelve hours
on a Saturday, when the news cycle is relatively slow
in Indianapolis and violence are synonymous in Google searches. I
think this is a career case for Ryan Meres. I
think we know he's going to run for mayor. He's
already doing like secret parties to raise money. Joe howg
(07:08):
set may be raising money And if you're Ryan Meres,
a feather in your cap would be prosecuting a former
NFL quarterback who violently assaulted in elderly man. I mean,
what's the better story for him leading into a possible
mayoral run.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, So from your like, I mean from your investigation
that you've done, and you guys have been on this
all weekend. Do they they being the Prosecutor's office, I mean,
as you mentioned, they moved on this very quickly. Do
they feel like they got a pretty good case?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, because they have a kid evidence.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I contacted the management company that manage I forgot
what management company it is, but they own the whole
block from Pronto Pizza all the way east to the
pub and beyond. There's one company that controls those video cameras,
and assuming looking at the cameras that I was looking at,
they have them at north, southeast and west. All cameras
(08:03):
are trained on that loading dock and back at the west.
And there's no ankle that's not covered. And presumably what
Sanchez did was throw this guy into the dumpster, throw
him down to the ground, push him, kick him, punch him.
He did everything short of like choke him out. This
guy was so terrified he said in the AFFI David
(08:23):
that he thought that Sanchez was gonna kill him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So is it from all the stuff that you've read
and the pieces were putting together here and obviously these
charges one has been upgraded to a felony that he
may have just been so unaware of who he was
and what he was doing that, like you had said
with your encounters, perhaps I mean, there was no thing
that triggered it. He was just in a horrible state.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I could tell you real quick. I was in
a violent fight at a house club house music at
a club in Washington, d C. After like three o'clock
one night, and I remember punching and kicking this guy,
and this guy split my ear with like the tip
of a knife. And every when I woke up at
a friend's house the next day, everybody's like, what the
heck happened? I'm like, what do you mean would happen?
(09:05):
I knew nothing except I had a band aid on
my ear, and people had told me how violent this
fight was and how long it went on for I
had no clue that I expended that much energy and
that this guy and I had been in a crazy fight.
So yeah, presumably Mark Sanchez could have like railed on
this guy and he probably woke up handcuffed to a.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Bed, a hospital bed, a hospital bed.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, you guys did a phenomenal job putting this together.
Like I said, the WBC News team collectively gave up
their weekends, went out, got all this information, and you're
one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Thanks man. If you for your listeners, follow me on
TikTok because there's about a two minute video where I
recount everything and I'm just telling people kind of what happens.
So follow me on TikTok Sure to cover number two.
It'd appreciate the following. You'll get all your information.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Wait you say that in English. I don't have TikTok sure.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To cover too. It's TikTok and app a video. TikTok yah.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Follow on that.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Follow me on TikTok, type in sure to cover, and
then number two my video pop up. It's been seen
more than one hundred and eight thousand times so far.
All right, thank you, Thanks guys. You're listening to Kendle
and Casey. It is ninety three w IBC
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