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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Is this us?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is what you chose to come back in.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Carl told me this was Howard Stern's theme song on nine.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Pete, all right, so producer Carl's with us, and Carl's
with us because he is the Howard Stern expert. You
worked for many years for E Entertainment Television and your
job was doing stuff with the Howard Stern TV show
that was on that network.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like you saw him and you were like, I want
to be by that guy.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was working in LA and nobody knew about the
Howard Stern Show, and they Howard was their number one show,
and they basically recruited me to work there to explain
this show to them.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What did you do? We'll get down because a lot
of news with Howard Stern, We'll get What did you
do for E and the Howard Stern Enterprises?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, first of all, I worked in their video library
and we would receive all of his isotapes of isolated
cashot and it would be actually produced in LA and
nobody knew who any of these people were, so I
had a log of who all these people were. And
I logged the show.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In LA sounds dreadfully painful. Carl, And one of the.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Things I got to do is watch Howard every single
night at E You got paid to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got paid. That was my Well that is pretty cool, right.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean some guy was digging a ditch somewhere and
you're like, you're complaining about Carl getting paid to watch TV.
All right, so you're here because the big news on
Stern is that is it serious?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
XM? There one thing?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yes, yeah, now, sirius XM. His contract is over this fall.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
With satellite radio and they said you done zo.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Well no, they said that they're going to offer him
something else.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh like a janitorial position.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No, like they're going to offer him another contract. He
has come out and said that it's it's not worth
the investment.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, So Carl, I put it to you like an animal.
So I put it to you, Greg. I just think
we have ps that era of an individual dude being
able to dominate the airwaves and revenue to the point
that it's worth paying the the eight figure contracts. But
you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's that you well, it's it's not worth what he's
doing at serious XM, because like, why would I pay
for radio when I can get it for free?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember
it's been twenty years ago that Stern went to two
thousand and six, So the argument was like, oh my gosh,
now he'll be able to say all the words that
you know he couldn't say before, do all this, and
it's like part of the charm as a teenager growing
up listening to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he
(02:44):
doesn't he kind of cater to at like young dudes.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah? Yeah,
when I was sixteen young?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And people will forget that. Howard sterned for a very
brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on this Freequincy.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it was ninety three one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
When it was the Buzzard and he made a bit
that was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in
to compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when
I beat them in the ratings, I'm going to throw
a parade.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And he got smoked.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I mean he it was a dumpster fire because his
show just doesn't translate.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Didn't resonate with the listeners to the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's just not a midwe Bob and Tom were great
because they were funny, they were talented. They had guys
like Jay Baker and all those guys, or Mark Patrick
around them. But it was Midwest humor. It was Midwest
stuff that people could relate to, and he came in
with this coast stuff and people were just like, it's
kind of good. But the point of all this was
the idea of listening to him as a young dude, was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He shouldn't be saying that he's got to get in
big trouble. You can't do that in public eras.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And once he went to Satelle, we're gonna do what
everyone it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I didn't have to tiptoe around the language.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh, my gosh,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no
fcc him pushing the bound as a young guy, you
were like, I want to I want to be that
guy that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Pushes the boundaries. And then if there's no boundaries, he.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Was literally the super alpha male on the radio. He
was the one that brought in the women, told off
the man. He was the guy that got away with stuff,
and he fizzled out in his old age.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts
of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie
what year did Private Parts come out?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's on the tip is on the tippy. Where did
you have to look it up?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
You and I were texting about it, like, oh so
you got that?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven, I would have been
in the seventh grade. And I've said for a long
time that my dream since I was a little kid
was to be on the radio and be on this
radio station and do the exact thing I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it
by myself. But you can the fine addition to the
to the program.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
But like that movie, and I remember seeing it for
the first time on a channel that we weren't supposed
to get, and it would have been after my parents
were sleep and watching that movie, and that movie changed
my life. Like seeing that and I know now, like
when you're in the seventh grade, you don't know what's
(05:17):
bull crap and what's not. You think it's all real.
You thought pig vomit was the real guy that Paul giamix.
But you see the like I want to be that
Like that movie changed changed my life. What happened to Howard.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Stern completely sold out. And it was a puzzle because
when Donald Trump ran in twenty sixteen, he was like
coming out against Donald. Donald was a frequent guest on
his show because Donald just said what was on his mind,
just like Howard, was it the need to be liked.
He when he divorced his wife, that was the end
(05:51):
of the show. Then he became Hollywood and he married
an actress.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Part of that was because the shocking things that he
would say and the women that he would have on
the show.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
But you knew he's actually a married guy.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
He's going home to his wife and his kids, and
you were kind of in on that, right this Carls
right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
He was no longer the regular guy. He was the
guy that got divorced and married. You know, a trophy
was and.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He probably was making because then the whole other thing
is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money
can give you comfort, but so many people don't have
satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's
so much that you can listen to.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He he was.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, he was supposed to be the big talent to
make you want serious ExM. I mean they paid him
a groundbreaking five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
How much money you think do you think they lost
money on that deal? Do you think people enough people
got satellite radio because Howard they getting?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah? But did it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Last there was only serious and ExM and because of
Howard they merged.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So the thing that I like, he interviewed Biden last
year Kamala or.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think he did. He did Biden when Mia was
still was still running.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He talked while Biden sat there, right that he did that,
He did interview Kamala, And it's like, what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And now you're just some old.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Angry leftist guy who clearly has some sort of internal misery.
And it was just like it's so it's so awful
to watch the heroes of your youth hobble away and me.
Howard Stern is just some angry guy who hoppled into
the sunset.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So his time was up a while ago. He should
have ended it sooner and gone out on top.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You're the superfan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean he disppeared from my life. You know, twenty
years ago he went to satellite radio.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Career is because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I got the job at E because I knew the
subject and they said, you need to work for us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So like when you were younger, you just sat around
and listened to Stern every day.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I
picked them up out of Philadelphia's When.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Was the last time you listened to a show?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
When I left LA in twenty fourteen, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I can't afford satellite radio anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you,
Is this us?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is what you chose to come back in.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Carl told me this was Howard Stern's theme song on nine.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Pete, all right, so producer Carl's with us, and Carl's
with us because he is the Howard Stern expert. You
worked for many years for E Entertainment Television and your
job was doing stuff with the Howard Stern TV show
that was on that network.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like you saw him and you were like, I want
to be by that guy.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was working in LA and nobody knew about the
Howard Stern Show, and they Howard was their number one show,
and they basically recruited me to work there to explain
this show to them.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What did you do? We'll get down because a lot
of news with Howard Stern, We'll get What did you
do for E and the Howard Stern Enterprises?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, first of all, I worked in their video library
and we would receive all of his isotapes of isolated
cashot and it would be actually produced in LA and
nobody knew who any of these people were, so I
had a log of who all these people were. And
I logged the show.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In LA sounds dreadfully painful. Carl, And one of the.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Things I got to do is watch Howard every single
night at E You got paid to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got paid. That was my Well that is pretty cool, right.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean some guy was digging a ditch somewhere and
you're like, you're complaining about Carl getting paid to watch TV.
All right, so you're here because the big news on
Stern is that is it serious?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
XM? There one thing?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yes, yeah, now, sirius XM. His contract is over this fall.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
With satellite radio and they said you done zo.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Well no, they said that they're going to offer him
something else.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh like a janitorial position.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No, like they're going to offer him another contract. He
has come out and said that it's it's not worth
the investment.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, So Carl, I put it to you like an animal.
So I put it to you, Greg. I just think
we have ps that era of an individual dude being
able to dominate the airwaves and revenue to the point
that it's worth paying the the eight figure contracts. But
you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's that you well, it's it's not worth what he's
doing at serious XM, because like, why would I pay
for radio when I can get it for free?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember
it's been twenty years ago that Stern went to two
thousand and six, So the argument was like, oh my gosh,
now he'll be able to say all the words that
you know he couldn't say before, do all this, and
it's like part of the charm as a teenager growing
up listening to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he
(02:44):
doesn't he kind of cater to at like young dudes.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah? Yeah,
when I was sixteen young?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And people will forget that. Howard sterned for a very
brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on this Freequincy.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it was ninety three one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
When it was the Buzzard and he made a bit
that was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in
to compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when
I beat them in the ratings, I'm going to throw
a parade.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And he got smoked.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I mean he it was a dumpster fire because his
show just doesn't translate.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Didn't resonate with the listeners to the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's just not a midwe Bob and Tom were great
because they were funny, they were talented. They had guys
like Jay Baker and all those guys, or Mark Patrick
around them. But it was Midwest humor. It was Midwest
stuff that people could relate to, and he came in
with this coast stuff and people were just like, it's
kind of good. But the point of all this was
the idea of listening to him as a young dude, was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He shouldn't be saying that he's got to get in
big trouble. You can't do that in public eras.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And once he went to Satelle, we're gonna do what
everyone it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I didn't have to tiptoe around the language.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh, my gosh,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no
fcc him pushing the bound as a young guy, you
were like, I want to I want to be that
guy that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Pushes the boundaries. And then if there's no boundaries, he.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Was literally the super alpha male on the radio. He
was the one that brought in the women, told off
the man. He was the guy that got away with stuff,
and he fizzled out in his old age.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts
of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie
what year did Private Parts come out?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's on the tip is on the tippy. Where did
you have to look it up?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
You and I were texting about it, like, oh so
you got that?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven, I would have been
in the seventh grade. And I've said for a long
time that my dream since I was a little kid
was to be on the radio and be on this
radio station and do the exact thing I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it
by myself. But you can the fine addition to the
to the program.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
But like that movie, and I remember seeing it for
the first time on a channel that we weren't supposed
to get, and it would have been after my parents
were sleep and watching that movie, and that movie changed
my life. Like seeing that and I know now, like
when you're in the seventh grade, you don't know what's
(05:17):
bull crap and what's not. You think it's all real.
You thought pig vomit was the real guy that Paul giamix.
But you see the like I want to be that
Like that movie changed changed my life. What happened to Howard.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Stern completely sold out. And it was a puzzle because
when Donald Trump ran in twenty sixteen, he was like
coming out against Donald. Donald was a frequent guest on
his show because Donald just said what was on his mind,
just like Howard, was it the need to be liked.
He when he divorced his wife, that was the end
(05:51):
of the show. Then he became Hollywood and he married
an actress.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Part of that was because the shocking things that he
would say and the women that he would have on
the show.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
But you knew he's actually a married guy.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
He's going home to his wife and his kids, and
you were kind of in on that, right this Carls
right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
He was no longer the regular guy. He was the
guy that got divorced and married. You know, a trophy
was and.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He probably was making because then the whole other thing
is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money
can give you comfort, but so many people don't have
satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's
so much that you can listen to.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He he was.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, he was supposed to be the big talent to
make you want serious ExM. I mean they paid him
a groundbreaking five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
How much money you think do you think they lost
money on that deal? Do you think people enough people
got satellite radio because Howard they getting?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah? But did it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Last there was only serious and ExM and because of
Howard they merged.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So the thing that I like, he interviewed Biden last
year Kamala or.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think he did. He did Biden when Mia was
still was still running.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He talked while Biden sat there, right that he did that,
He did interview Kamala, And it's like, what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And now you're just some old.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Angry leftist guy who clearly has some sort of internal misery.
And it was just like it's so it's so awful
to watch the heroes of your youth hobble away and me.
Howard Stern is just some angry guy who hoppled into
the sunset.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So his time was up a while ago. He should
have ended it sooner and gone out on top.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You're the superfan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean he disppeared from my life. You know, twenty
years ago he went to satellite radio.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Career is because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I got the job at E because I knew the
subject and they said, you need to work for us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So like when you were younger, you just sat around
and listened to Stern every day.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I
picked them up out of Philadelphia's When.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Was the last time you listened to a show?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
When I left LA in twenty fourteen, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I can't afford satellite radio anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you,
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