October 15, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So our attorney, our attorney generals.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Look, I'm load to say anything nice about Todd Roketa,
I know, but one thing I will say about Rokeita
that I kind of enjoy because well, I wouldn't exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Use those words.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He can't let anything go because I see that when
I look in the mirror, does sound.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Like anyone you know, these two things are very similar.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, it's okay, So this is I was telling you
this this morning. One of the one of the things
about Todd Roketa is he is a brawler. Todd raket
Is the Attorney General for the State of Indiana. Also
a moron, but a brawler. And a lot of these politicians,
rank and file, regular politicians struggle in terms of how
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to deal with a guy like Todd Rokeeda because they
don't understand the premise from which he operates, and that is,
he can't ever lose. He just exists to fight. And
if you're going to engage with someone who just exists
to fight, it's the I'm sure people have seen the meme.
Randy marsh is the dad on South Park and there's
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a famous meme of him all messed up. He got
the script or The premise of the episode is he
gets in a fight at his kids' little league games
and he keeps getting hauled out by the cops, and
the line is, I didn't hear no bell. And I'm
sure you've seen the meme of him. He's all messed
up and you know his eyes are beaten shut. I
didn't hear no bell. That's Rokeita, right, he is the idol.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I didn't hear no bell.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Guys, He's just gonna keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And if you're going to engage in any sort of
public conflict with him, you have to accept the fact
that you can't ever defeat him because he's never going
to stop. And Senator Liz Brown from Fort Wayne is
finding this out the hard way. She doesn't seem to
grasp that that you, if you choose to, it's why
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we we always win.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We are that we didn't hear no Bell, guy, and.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's why we beat these politicians all the time. They
don't understand the rules of the game and the rules
of engagement. And she, she being Liz Brown, this powerful
senator from Fort Wayne, continues to think she can operate
under normal political procedure against Todd Rokeita and it ain't
gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, the thing is, most people are interested in getting
the win. There are some people who are more interested
in the fight, and that's something that you were told
Rokey to have in common.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So what we're talking about here is Tom Holman, who
is the border Guru, the borders are, whatever his technical
name is. He is in charge of getting illegal immigration
under control in this country. And while we have been
very critical of the Trump administration's handling of economic issues,
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one thing I think every reasonable person would say is
the border is infinitely better under Donald Trump than it
was under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, so Donald Trump gave Tom Holman three main tasks,
secure the border, run the largest deportation operation, and then
find three hundred thousand missing migrant children.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And it's it's I mean, it's incredible lift given the
position that Biden put this country in in terms of
just do drop in policy as it related to illegal immigration.
But Tom Holman was here yesterday and was speaking to
the Indiana General Assembly.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He was speaking.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now, they this was supposed to be as MI understanding,
some sort of public event, but then they just pulled
it into the chambers.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, they closed it to the public and the media,
although they did live stream, which.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That was kind of a bad move.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Like you said, they did live stream, but to the
average person that looks like an avoidance of transparency or
we don't want to deal with the protesters or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But so he gives this speech.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Rokita is there and they start talking about this House
Bill fifteen thirty one, and it's better known as the
Fairness Act, and it dealt with illegal immigration. It basically
put the onus on state, local, federal authorities in the
state of Indiana on specific ways in which you had
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to deal with apprehending put I think the technical description
And by the way, if you want to read all this,
Capital Chronicle or Friends of Capital Chronicle at a big
write up on all of this yesterday, potentially dangerous aliens.
And Liz Brown is a very powerful, long standing Senator
from the city of Fort Wayne. She's a Rhino. She's
a Republican in name only, but technically hasn't. She's a
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Republican in good standing, the lady who killed the illegal
immigration bill. She's a Republican a good standing. But me, no,
if I were to tell you shouldn't vote for someone
who kills the illegal immigration bill that I would not
be a Republican a good standing welcome to the Indiana
Republican Party. So she was the head of this committee
let this past session that was hearing this bill. And
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in the state of Indiana, these committee heads have basically
infinite power. If you're a commit Now they report to
the Speaker of the House or the pro tem of
the Senate. They're you know, accountable to them. They are
not a lot of times not doing anything that hasn't
been preapproved, but things basically live and die based on
their orders. She swatted this bill down, and then Todd
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Rokeita made her public enemy number one up to and
including didn't he say that she told him she killed
the bill because there was an illegal immigrant in her family.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
In her family or somebody within her family knows somebody or.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And then she vehemently denied that. She slapped a complain
against him with the Disciplinary Commission. And so Rokeita did
it again.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He did kisterd Day.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Holman's here talking about this bill and how it helped
the federal governor blah blah blah, and then Rokeita is
there and he starts going at Liz Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yep, he did it again. So this bill, it passed
the House sixty four to twenty six, died in the
Senate with no hearing. Rokeeda blamed Liz Brown for blocking it.
Now Representative JD. Prescott allegedly plans to reintroduce the bill
in January, but Holman was urging them to help President Trump.
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It's a great bill, get back to it now. Liz
Brown was on with Tony Katz this morning and again
she denied it. Yeah, and this is he was like, well,
where did this come from?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, and this is the problem. You have to know
how to deal with Rokeeda. Why does Rokeeda hate us?
Because we know how to deal with him, because brawler
knows a brawler and I know what I'm dealing with
with Todd Rokeeda. He's not ever going to get anything
over on this program because we know exactly how to
deal with him, and these politicians do not, Which is
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why Rokeita has been so five as a politician. Other
than this, the US Senate implosion, in which, for some
bizarre reason, he thought he was going to morph into
Donald Trump in real time and run the most ridiculous
campaign ever, Todd Rokeeda is essentially undefeated in running for
public office because he knows how to bully and beat
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these people around, and they don't know how to respond.
And she's fallen right into his trap again. And it's
kind of funny to watch from afar and see these
people take de bait every single time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So here is Todd Rokeita. This is yesterday talking about
the Fairness for Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
As I said earlier, House Spill fifteen thirty one from
last session easily passed this Chamber sixty four to twenty six,
but was stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator
Liz Brown, who refused to even give it a hearing.
That decision set us back at least a full year.
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We can't afford further delays. Kendra and her family don't
deserve further delays. Hoosiers elected us to put them first,
demanding secure borders, safe communities, and fair job opportunities. The
Fairness Act delivers on these fronts. It strengthens this anti
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sanctuary city law by giving my office more tools to
combat this. And don't forget we already we have two
lawsuits going right now, Saint Joseph against the Saint Joseph
County Sheriff and the Monroe County Sheriff for alleged violations.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We need to do more.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
By the way the Fairness Act, it stands for fostering
and advancing immigration reforms necessary to ensure safety and security.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, my broader question would be, and I'm not asking
this to be a smart ass, I'm genuinely curious. The
State of Indiana has been in full compliance with the
Fed government up to it, including sign of a massive
deal to use our prison system for illegal immigrants. And
I'm not seeing the headlines of Hey, we're arresting illegal
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immigrants every single day and letting them go. Is this
actually on a broad So it's sort of like the
voter fraud thing. Remember Diego Diego. Morales, Secretary of State
comes out with this big announcer, we caught one illegal
immigrant voting one Bigo County. Like, okay, so you spend
how much money to catch one guy? Not saying there
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aren't people voting illegally, but is there some broad scale
thing that requires millions of taxpayer dollars to solve? And
so the same question, I would have the same question
as it relates to illegal immigration in the state of Indiana.
Is Indiana such a such a problem that we're catching
huge uh sloths of illegal agreements, huge numbers of illegal immigrants,
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and we're having to let them go?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Where way? Does this problem exist somewhere?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
If so, show it to me or are we just
pointing to one or two isolated incidents?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah? Is this a really really big issue? Well, according
to Tom Rokita, he said it is, there's no country
and therefore no Indiana. If we don't have a border,
every state is now a border state. That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, but I get that. But that's what he does.
This is what he does. He's he's the arts. It's
basically victim based politics. Look at how we're being aggrieved.
Look at how we're being the horrible thing that's happening. Okay,
I don't disagree. I'm totally for a secure border, totally
for apprehending all illegal immigrants in this country, sending them
back to their country of origin, not fighting on any
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of that. What I'm asking is are there documented on
a big scale. I'm not talking about you know, one
or two isolated incidents, but is there across the board,
you know, multiple times, numerous times documented where we're catching
these illegal, illegal immigrants and then they're just being let
back out into decent society here in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, I don't have those numbers, Rob.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I don't think he does either.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But I still enjoy him taking some some do nothing
senator to the woodshed.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That is kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We do have numbers, a lot of polling numbers. There
were so many polls that came out yesterday. When you
and I were talking yesterday, you were referencing one pole,
I was referencing another. But I think the big picture
is the same across the board, on all the poles.
Let's get into it. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So the polling that was out yesterday, Casey was fascinating
to me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
We're on the wrong track at everything.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Everybody's doing poorly.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's the general mood.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Now. We got into it yesterday with.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
With the folks from Independent Indiana and obviously their poll
showed one that the public remains overwhelmingly against redistricting. And
then they also polled on Braun and diego U and
the Braun was, you know what, twenty points under water
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in their pole. And then while we were on the
air another one because you were I had not seen
that both sides.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I know, I could tell you were talking about a
different pole than I was. They said the same thing.
The numbers were a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, well you were. I was like, what is this
woman doing?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Does she get internal crosstabs that I haven't seen?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like I was just on the air with this guy,
How did you get them right?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And I was talking about a different pole.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It was like when it came to Secretary of State
Diego Morales, it was like nine percent favorability, twenty one
percent unfavorable, And I'm like, seventy percent. That doesn't even
know who he is. And you're You're like, what are
you seventy percent? Where did you get that number?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So so, but these two balls came out almost at
the exact same time. They both said the same thing.
One who are overwhelming against redistricting? And two the governor
is way underwater. I think it was fourteen and one
almost twenty in another he's got he being brawn has
a major problem because there's nothing he did this session
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that he can point to and go, hey, just give
it a few months, give it a year. You're gonna
see things will all be better, so it can only
get worse from here for him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, let's figure this out. Why would that be. What
are they talking about right now? They're talking about redistricting,
keeping themselves in power, right Are they talking about property taxes?
Are they talking about lowering the gas tax? Are they
talking about lowering your electricity bill? Are they talking about
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lowering sales tax? No, they raise that. In fact, they're
talking about your income tax. No, nothing that actually helps
the tax payers. The big message that you're hearing is
coming from Washington, DC, and it's not hitting with the averagoosure.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, people don't find value in the Republican Party. I mean,
I think that's the big takeaway here. If people found
value in the Indiana in the way Indiana Republicans are
governing and the way Republicans are governing in Washington, they
would be overwhelmingly in support of this. They would be
storming their rep and senators doors saying please do this.
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And what has really become clear, and we've got we
got into this the last couple of days Ethan and
I did, and you and I've talked about this before,
is that the Republicans keep winning because the Democrats in
this state are and nationally are so unelectable to the
people of Indiana. If the Democrats did anything remotely normal,
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they would start winning elections and the Republicans never have
to face wake up call because the Democrats are so bad.
But you see this play out in these polls where
people say, just because we won't vote for the other
guy doesn't mean we don't hate you and what you're
doing right as well. And so I think the big
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indictment here is that people are telling you what they
think about Republican based governance by saying, one, we don't
want any more Republicans in Washington, which is what there
would be, which is what they would be doing. And two,
this governor stinks at his job and hasn't been putting
priorities forward that are making our lives better.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And so we're just done with all of you people.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, I mean, he stood in front of a huge
crowd of people and said he was going to fight
for us, and then he turned around and he didn't.
And people are tired of the games. They're putting party
over the people who put them in those positions. I mean,
think about this, what we've had, the agriculture Secretary visit us,
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We've had the Vice president visit us twice. The board
has now come is that helping you in your daily life.
Their message is so about the party and not about
the people.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, and so we're gonna have Ryan Hendrick from the
WBC newsroom next because a bunch of stuff on Mark Sanchez.
Jim Merrit will be with us at ten thirty today
and we're going to talk about that because that is
what these Republicans like. I don't even know if they care.
I don't think if they don't understand. I think they
don't care because they don't fear losing. Most of them
don't fear losing. Like, Okay, so I do this and
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it's unpopular. Well, you've already, in a post COVID world,
laid down the line in the sand that no matter
what I do to you, you're going to keep voting Republican.
Which comes back to what my argument has been for
a long time, which is if you want this to change,
you have to let these Republicans lose some elections. It
starts next year with the Secretary of States race. The
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number one thing if you want to crack this Republican
cabal and you want to send a message to these
people that you're done just voting for them, no matter
what a horrible rotten thing they do, or horrible rotten
elected official or candidate they put in front of you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You have to stop. You have to.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Stop giving them that that, you know, impression or not impression,
but reality, that that's what you'll do, no matter what
bad the Republicans do. You're still saying, well, the Democrats
might be worse, so I'll just vote for you, regardless of.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Course they're going to abuse you as a taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It seems like Bobai is getting some nice donations. You
got three hundred thousand from somebody, Yeah, from somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We need more rich friends. Now here's what I will
say about this, Because people were this guy who gave
him three hundred thousand dollars from Connecticut, and people, of
course then lose their minds. I said, well, wait a second,
we all know what's going on here. Let's not act
like we don't. But if you're going to tell me
that you're gonna sit in judgment of some guy publicly
getting a declared three hundred thousand dollars check from someone
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who lives in this country, sure, who has to put
their name behind it. But you're not to say word
one about the current Secretary of State disappearing to a
foreign country for ten days. Oh and he won't tell
you who paid for Oh when we know the guy
who he went with, who has it, who had a
taxpayer funded contract, was bragging about selling visa access into
this country. If you have to ask me which one
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I'm more concerned about, I'm infinitely more concerned about.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The mysterious trip that I don't know who paid park right, Yeah, yeah,
pop meat cattle U huh.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Ryan Hendrick is going to join us next on ninety
three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, lots of moving parts on the Mark Sanchez case.
Let's bring back in one of the best in the business.
I look, I think from a local perspective, nobody's covering
it like this guy, Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Ryan, Hello, Hey, what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, So, the big several big things yesterday with the
Mark Sanchez case.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
First of all, the judge recused herself.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So four big things yesterday, and this all unfolded over
the course of like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was very quick.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh yeah, so so The big thing is, you're right,
Jennifer Prince Harrison has recused herself and there's really only
four reasons why a judge would recuse themselves of a
case in Mary.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, this is very this is very perplexing to me because,
like you said, it's a pretty tight when you know,
set of rules and I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Which one box she's checking go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So personal reasons, financial reasons, prior involvement were bias in
the case. Now a lot of people are speculating that
her light sentences have compelled her to step aside, but
I don't think that's it because if these judges aren't
bothered by light sentences of killers, arm robbers and drug traffickers,
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why would she be bothered by a perceived bias in
the Mark Sanchez case?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So, now, from a media perspective, there was some kind
of cheering on this because she had said no dice
on cameras in the courtroom. Now there's been a re
application to try to do we have a new judge?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is James Osbourne. And you're right,
there was an infusion of hammer of requests yesterday, back
to back to back camera requests right after she recused herself.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But we don't have a ruling on that yet.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And not to my knowledge, I checked my case about
an hour ago and there's nothing been decided in that run.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Does she have to say why she refused herself?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Maybe she's just a huge football fan.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, well she's the president of Mark Sanchez Fan Club.
She was a long standing member of the Jets Jo.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Maybe she had a lot of of his Brookie cards.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I texted a couple of cops I know in Indianapolis
to get some sort of perspective, and the Indie Star
has done a little digging with this as well. The
only thing we could do is guess right now, it's
just it's just a crapshoot at this point. Why did
she recuse herself, we don't know. But what we do
know is when she did recuse herself, this kind of
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moved the court dates. So the court dates have now
been shifted and the first pre trial conference is scheduled
for October twenty second, and that's it, I believe one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They've already said a trial date. Not that I mean
they're not gonna actually have a trial on this day,
but the trial date has been set for December eleventh,
it has.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And then there's something before that a week before that,
a second pre trial conference I think on December third
or fourth.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now he wants to string or his legal team, I
would guess would want to string this out because you
talked about was as two days ago. You were with us,
and you said, in the Marion Kenny judicial system, if
you can convince the court you were an addict and
you're recovering, that's your basically your get out of jail
free car.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
And it tugs at their heart strings. It goes right
along with the pet causes, the social justice causes that
this prosecutor in his office believes so so much in.
And if they could put somebody in rehab or save
somebody's life under the guise of the addiction treating the addiction,
which is their kind of core issue, then I think
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they're all for it.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So he said that he's recovered right now, but you're
saying if they put him in some sort of rehab
it will help him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I think it's a great defense for him because why
how else, besides being just ungodly evil, could you explain
attacking a sixty nine year old grease truck delivery guy
in an alley in Indianapolis. And I don't mean to
make light of this, but what other defense would you
be able to offer other than addiction?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Ryan Header from the WVC newsroom is with us. We're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So when he left the courthouse and Fox fifty nine
had asked him a few questions, he answered just a
few about how he was recovering and think the doctors.
He also mentioned that he'd be able to talk soon. Yeah,
when do you think that'll be? And what's what would
he say?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I think it would be a well crafted statement. I
think it would be a sit down on national TV
with a very kind of like a softball friendly, a
friendly news anchor that would just underhand him questions. Mean,
you know, when you look at his history, I think
it's telling that. On Sunday, his son's mother, Daniel, who's
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eight years old, the three kids, she spoke two ts
yeah on Instagram and said I'm not surprised, none of
this surprises me. What does that mean? She just kind
of left us hanging.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So he's got a couple issues, right. Number one is
he's got obviously this potential prison sentence if he's convicted
in front of him, But there's also the underlying what
was he doing in that alley and why was he?
Why did he you know, we talked about this two
days ago when you were with us. He keeps like
circling back into that alley and then what made him
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so mad? And depending on what the answers to those
questions are, the I mean he that may be the
thing he doesn't want to address out of all of this,
I don't know. I'm just saying that video sparked way
more questions than it provided answers.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I don't know if you ever if you were ever
picked on in high school, I was. There is a
guy that I will I'm going to name him because
I just feel I'm so angry to this point. His
name was is Kenny Picard. He was a linebacker on
our football team, and I'll never forget he was walking
up the steps to six period class and he turned
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around and just punched me and I just fell back right.
He was a football player, big bully type guy. When
I saw Mark Sanchez in that alley, circling like a shark,
circling is prey to me that spoke of a guy
like Kenny Picard who was always looking for a fight.
I mean, here's a guy. He walked up and down
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West Washington Street, west toward the pub, and back east
or east toward the pub, then back west knowing it
was closed, and then went back to the alley, looked
over his shoulder and you could see on the camera
he's looking at the bay where Perry Toll is unloading grease.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, the story, man, this is going to be fascinating,
and that's where what they are worried about coming out.
He does look like he or appears, you know, and
obviously it look it's it's security, you know, footage, et cetera.
It's black and white, et cetera. But it does look
like he's zoning it on this guy. Not just like
there was some switch the guy flip, but like he
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was like appears very shark like about this dude.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I also want to go back to the the prior
involvements or biases. So if you look up Perry Toll
in my case, there's a mortgage foreclosure case that he
had and the judgment was for one hundred and fifty
eight thousand dollars. Bank of America secured that judgment against
him and a person I believe was his wife. I
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wonder if there's and we're just kind of spitballing here,
but I wonder if there's some part of this Judge
Prince Harrison, who accused herself because she believes that she
may not be able to deliver a fair verdict in
the case. Because Perry Toll actually has a couple of
cases against him. One's a mortgage case of for cl case,
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and the other one had something to do with his
truck in twenty thirteen. So I mean, there's all types
of speculation about why he filed the suit against Fox.
Who knows, but I know if Mark Sanchez punched me
or assaulted me, I'm suing him.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, now you mentioned that lawsuit. In regards to Sanchez,
He's got some legal bills that are most likely stacking up.
He's here at the criminal case, the civil case, and
possibly an employment case. Everybody is still listing him as
a Fox analyst. Is there any word on that his employment?
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And when do you think Fox will make a decision.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I don't think they can make a decision until after
this case is closed. Because I know when in twenty fifteen,
when I had to check myself into rehab from a
radio station I was working at, they wanted to fire
me because I was in no call, no show on
multiple occasions, and I remember the news director coming up
to me and saying, it's only a matter of time
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before we get to fire you because we know you're
going to go back out. We know you weren't taking
treatment seriously. So Fox has yanked Sanchez off of all
broadcasts for now while the court case goes on. But
there's no way, there's no way that he ever appears
on Fox again, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But they can't terminate him at this point.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
They can't because it's a case where he can turn
around and sue them again. The addiction thing is.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
A big play.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yet it's a big.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Play here because it is against federal law to fire
somebody that has an addiction, if they have not accepted
or if they've not been offered help. It is against
all it's ada thing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So if I just say I'm addicted to hating rotten politicians.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
No, no, if you were, it will play a hypothetical.
And I hate to drop your name like this, But
if you were to come in here drunk and our
boss said, you know what, you can't be on the
air today. And you came and drunk again and they
sent you home. They said, if you don't get help,
we're going to fire you. You know, if you refuse help,
then they could fire you. But we don't know what Sanchez.
We don't know what Sanchez is going through. And that's
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that is a violation of ADA. I think if if
an employer were to fire somebody, it before the employee
sought help for their problems.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So this extra time will work in his favor.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I still think I said it with you and Ethan
on the show. I still think the addiction is his
core defense. Why else would you be in an ali
assaulting a sixty nine year old man.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom, Where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
X on at Sure to cover and then TikTok at
sure to cover number two and then of course WIBC
dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're the best.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Thank you, Casey. I watched a very interesting documentary last night.
I like talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, I want to hear about it. It is Kendall
and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So I watched an interesting documentary last night.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Casey, Yeah, you actually took time well sent down. Well okay,
in one segment, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Get on Casey, yuh Rob, that's Casey. So here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
So, uh daycare is closed this week, and by the
time the tyrant finally went to bed, she had done
him min't damage to my homestead.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I'm like, all right, it's gonna take mell.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He thought you were going to say she had done
immense damage to my mental health.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well that too.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, you know, I try to be home by
you know, twelve thirty or one, and then you know
it's basically like seven hours of you know, operating the
daddy daycare service. But you know, she goes to bed,
and I'm like, all right, I got to pick this
house up. I'm like, it's going to take me an
hour to pick this house up, so might as well
have something going on in the background. So I've been
hearing about this new documentary Amazon has on John Candy
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and it's called I Like Me.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Colin Hanks, who is Tom Hanks's son, is the director
of this documentary, and it's fascinating because there are so
many famous people who are still living and actively currently
participated in this documentary from the entire span of John
Candy's life is Bill Murray, was Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, mcaulay, Culkin,
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Dan Ackroyd mel Brooks.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, I mean, just Steve Martin, Bill Murray, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What's the funny guy Martin? Short.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
All of these people you know are in this documentary,
and that is predominantly the documentary. It's not so much about, well,
tell us about this movie or tell us about that movie.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
They're talking about it, and some of there is some stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
With the movies and the the Second City television all
that stuff, but they're primarily talking about him as a
as a person and what he was like and what
was fascinating about this this documentary, and it's sort of
this reoccurring theme at all stages of his life. And
John Candy obviously passed away very young. He was I
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think forty four years old forty.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Three, passed away from a heart attack in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
What you from, So his father passed away when he
was very young. I think he was five years five
years old. I think on his fifth birthday, his father
had a massive heart attack and passed away, and then
it sort of from that moment forward, John Candy basically
got in his mind, I'm going to die very young,
and then it just manifested itself into this chaotic, sort
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of tortured personal existence that no matter what achievements he
had professionally, and he was a mild kins of phenomenal
husband and father, but his personal life outside and away
from that was so chaotic, and every time somebody would
try to help him, whether it was his weight or
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his addiction to alcohol, et cetera, he would become annoyed
and would. At one point, one of the guests on
the documentary said he would just remove any person who
would try to help him from his rolodex.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You're out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't want to hear that I'm fat, don't want
to hear that I have a problem with this, And
was fascinating to me to hear. And Ryan Hendrick, which
had just kept him for this segment, he would have
been great for this about a guy who has so
much talent and has so many things working for him
professionally and personally, and yet he's so internally tortured that
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he refused to allow himself to enjoy it, and he
really in many ways.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Created his He created his.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Own demise by believing he was going to have demise
at a young age.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's almost a self fulfilling prophecy. Totally, totally.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I mean it was the documentary was so well done,
and it was it was everybody should watch it. He look,
John Candy is the Mount Rushmore of funny people. He's
totally up there with John Belushi and Chris Farley. And
you talk about a guy, what's so sad about this?
And this was the people you talk to who talk
about Chris Farley who knew him, you hear the same thing,
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and John Belushi the same thing. Phenomenally nice human beings,
great people who loved their family and their wives and
and and and the people that they were around and
the people that they considered their family, and yet they
had these addictions and these sort of tortured souls where
they just couldn't ever really enjoy it and they couldn't
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stop and see what they were doing to themselves, and
they brought about their end at a very young age.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's almost like he was convinced it was going to happen.
So why bother to change it anyway?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Totally, Yeah, totally, but uh, I just I wanted to
touch that because that was you know, you're kind of
casually listening to it and then it's good enough for
you doing the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You sit down.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I can actually enjoy it. So that I was up
cleaning till like twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Put off the clean doc was good.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It's like, this house is still a mess. I've accomplished nothing, but.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
You got to see this good documentary. It's called John Candy,
I like me and it's available for free on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, so everybody totally watch it, totally worth it. Are
what are we? What are we doing next?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Hey? Guess what what troops are getting paid?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh? Great?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Do you know by who?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Us?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Maybe? Maybe not Donald either, No, I do know. I
know what Donald Trump says.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh you're being deliberately vague.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yes I am.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You're vague booking me teasing.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh it's called a teas you're listening to Kettley Casey.
It's ninety three w IBC
So our attorney, our attorney generals.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Look, I'm load to say anything nice about Todd Roketa,
I know, but one thing I will say about Rokeita
that I kind of enjoy because well, I wouldn't exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Use those words.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He can't let anything go because I see that when
I look in the mirror, does sound.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Like anyone you know, these two things are very similar.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, it's okay, So this is I was telling you
this this morning. One of the one of the things
about Todd Roketa is he is a brawler. Todd raket
Is the Attorney General for the State of Indiana. Also
a moron, but a brawler. And a lot of these politicians,
rank and file, regular politicians struggle in terms of how
(00:51):
to deal with a guy like Todd Rokeeda because they
don't understand the premise from which he operates, and that is,
he can't ever lose. He just exists to fight. And
if you're going to engage with someone who just exists
to fight, it's the I'm sure people have seen the meme.
Randy marsh is the dad on South Park and there's
(01:13):
a famous meme of him all messed up. He got
the script or The premise of the episode is he
gets in a fight at his kids' little league games
and he keeps getting hauled out by the cops, and
the line is, I didn't hear no bell. And I'm
sure you've seen the meme of him. He's all messed
up and you know his eyes are beaten shut. I
didn't hear no bell. That's Rokeita, right, he is the idol.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I didn't hear no bell.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Guys, He's just gonna keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And if you're going to engage in any sort of
public conflict with him, you have to accept the fact
that you can't ever defeat him because he's never going
to stop. And Senator Liz Brown from Fort Wayne is
finding this out the hard way. She doesn't seem to
grasp that that you, if you choose to, it's why
(01:59):
we we always win.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We are that we didn't hear no Bell, guy, and.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's why we beat these politicians all the time. They
don't understand the rules of the game and the rules
of engagement. And she, she being Liz Brown, this powerful
senator from Fort Wayne, continues to think she can operate
under normal political procedure against Todd Rokeita and it ain't
gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, the thing is, most people are interested in getting
the win. There are some people who are more interested
in the fight, and that's something that you were told
Rokey to have in common.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So what we're talking about here is Tom Holman, who
is the border Guru, the borders are, whatever his technical
name is. He is in charge of getting illegal immigration
under control in this country. And while we have been
very critical of the Trump administration's handling of economic issues,
(02:55):
one thing I think every reasonable person would say is
the border is infinitely better under Donald Trump than it
was under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, so Donald Trump gave Tom Holman three main tasks,
secure the border, run the largest deportation operation, and then
find three hundred thousand missing migrant children.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And it's it's I mean, it's incredible lift given the
position that Biden put this country in in terms of
just do drop in policy as it related to illegal immigration.
But Tom Holman was here yesterday and was speaking to
the Indiana General Assembly.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He was speaking.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now, they this was supposed to be as MI understanding,
some sort of public event, but then they just pulled
it into the chambers.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, they closed it to the public and the media,
although they did live stream, which.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That was kind of a bad move.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Like you said, they did live stream, but to the
average person that looks like an avoidance of transparency or
we don't want to deal with the protesters or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But so he gives this speech.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Rokita is there and they start talking about this House
Bill fifteen thirty one, and it's better known as the
Fairness Act, and it dealt with illegal immigration. It basically
put the onus on state, local, federal authorities in the
state of Indiana on specific ways in which you had
(04:18):
to deal with apprehending put I think the technical description
And by the way, if you want to read all this,
Capital Chronicle or Friends of Capital Chronicle at a big
write up on all of this yesterday, potentially dangerous aliens.
And Liz Brown is a very powerful, long standing Senator
from the city of Fort Wayne. She's a Rhino. She's
a Republican in name only, but technically hasn't. She's a
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Republican in good standing, the lady who killed the illegal
immigration bill. She's a Republican a good standing. But me, no,
if I were to tell you shouldn't vote for someone
who kills the illegal immigration bill that I would not
be a Republican a good standing welcome to the Indiana
Republican Party. So she was the head of this committee
let this past session that was hearing this bill. And
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in the state of Indiana, these committee heads have basically
infinite power. If you're a commit Now they report to
the Speaker of the House or the pro tem of
the Senate. They're you know, accountable to them. They are
not a lot of times not doing anything that hasn't
been preapproved, but things basically live and die based on
their orders. She swatted this bill down, and then Todd
(05:28):
Rokeita made her public enemy number one up to and
including didn't he say that she told him she killed
the bill because there was an illegal immigrant in her family.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
In her family or somebody within her family knows somebody or.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And then she vehemently denied that. She slapped a complain
against him with the Disciplinary Commission. And so Rokeita did
it again.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He did kisterd Day.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Holman's here talking about this bill and how it helped
the federal governor blah blah blah, and then Rokeita is
there and he starts going at Liz Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yep, he did it again. So this bill, it passed
the House sixty four to twenty six, died in the
Senate with no hearing. Rokeeda blamed Liz Brown for blocking it.
Now Representative JD. Prescott allegedly plans to reintroduce the bill
in January, but Holman was urging them to help President Trump.
(06:26):
It's a great bill, get back to it now. Liz
Brown was on with Tony Katz this morning and again
she denied it. Yeah, and this is he was like, well,
where did this come from?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, and this is the problem. You have to know
how to deal with Rokeeda. Why does Rokeeda hate us?
Because we know how to deal with him, because brawler
knows a brawler and I know what I'm dealing with
with Todd Rokeeda. He's not ever going to get anything
over on this program because we know exactly how to
deal with him, and these politicians do not, Which is
(06:57):
why Rokeita has been so five as a politician. Other
than this, the US Senate implosion, in which, for some
bizarre reason, he thought he was going to morph into
Donald Trump in real time and run the most ridiculous
campaign ever, Todd Rokeeda is essentially undefeated in running for
public office because he knows how to bully and beat
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these people around, and they don't know how to respond.
And she's fallen right into his trap again. And it's
kind of funny to watch from afar and see these
people take de bait every single time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So here is Todd Rokeita. This is yesterday talking about
the Fairness for Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
As I said earlier, House Spill fifteen thirty one from
last session easily passed this Chamber sixty four to twenty six,
but was stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator
Liz Brown, who refused to even give it a hearing.
That decision set us back at least a full year.
(08:00):
We can't afford further delays. Kendra and her family don't
deserve further delays. Hoosiers elected us to put them first,
demanding secure borders, safe communities, and fair job opportunities. The
Fairness Act delivers on these fronts. It strengthens this anti
(08:23):
sanctuary city law by giving my office more tools to
combat this. And don't forget we already we have two
lawsuits going right now, Saint Joseph against the Saint Joseph
County Sheriff and the Monroe County Sheriff for alleged violations.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We need to do more.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
By the way the Fairness Act, it stands for fostering
and advancing immigration reforms necessary to ensure safety and security.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, my broader question would be, and I'm not asking
this to be a smart ass, I'm genuinely curious. The
State of Indiana has been in full compliance with the
Fed government up to it, including sign of a massive
deal to use our prison system for illegal immigrants. And
I'm not seeing the headlines of Hey, we're arresting illegal
(09:13):
immigrants every single day and letting them go. Is this
actually on a broad So it's sort of like the
voter fraud thing. Remember Diego Diego. Morales, Secretary of State
comes out with this big announcer, we caught one illegal
immigrant voting one Bigo County. Like, okay, so you spend
how much money to catch one guy? Not saying there
(09:33):
aren't people voting illegally, but is there some broad scale
thing that requires millions of taxpayer dollars to solve? And
so the same question, I would have the same question
as it relates to illegal immigration in the state of Indiana.
Is Indiana such a such a problem that we're catching
huge uh sloths of illegal agreements, huge numbers of illegal immigrants,
(09:58):
and we're having to let them go?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Where way? Does this problem exist somewhere?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
If so, show it to me or are we just
pointing to one or two isolated incidents?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah? Is this a really really big issue? Well, according
to Tom Rokita, he said it is, there's no country
and therefore no Indiana. If we don't have a border,
every state is now a border state. That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, but I get that. But that's what he does.
This is what he does. He's he's the arts. It's
basically victim based politics. Look at how we're being aggrieved.
Look at how we're being the horrible thing that's happening. Okay,
I don't disagree. I'm totally for a secure border, totally
for apprehending all illegal immigrants in this country, sending them
back to their country of origin, not fighting on any
(10:40):
of that. What I'm asking is are there documented on
a big scale. I'm not talking about you know, one
or two isolated incidents, but is there across the board,
you know, multiple times, numerous times documented where we're catching
these illegal, illegal immigrants and then they're just being let
back out into decent society here in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, I don't have those numbers, Rob.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I don't think he does either.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But I still enjoy him taking some some do nothing
senator to the woodshed.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That is kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We do have numbers, a lot of polling numbers. There
were so many polls that came out yesterday. When you
and I were talking yesterday, you were referencing one pole,
I was referencing another. But I think the big picture
is the same across the board, on all the poles.
Let's get into it. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So the polling that was out yesterday, Casey was fascinating
to me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
We're on the wrong track at everything.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Everybody's doing poorly.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's the general mood.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Now. We got into it yesterday with.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
With the folks from Independent Indiana and obviously their poll
showed one that the public remains overwhelmingly against redistricting. And
then they also polled on Braun and diego U and
the Braun was, you know what, twenty points under water
(12:16):
in their pole. And then while we were on the
air another one because you were I had not seen
that both sides.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I know, I could tell you were talking about a
different pole than I was. They said the same thing.
The numbers were a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, well you were. I was like, what is this
woman doing?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Does she get internal crosstabs that I haven't seen?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like I was just on the air with this guy,
How did you get them right?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And I was talking about a different pole.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It was like when it came to Secretary of State
Diego Morales, it was like nine percent favorability, twenty one
percent unfavorable, And I'm like, seventy percent. That doesn't even
know who he is. And you're You're like, what are
you seventy percent? Where did you get that number?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So so, but these two balls came out almost at
the exact same time. They both said the same thing.
One who are overwhelming against redistricting? And two the governor
is way underwater. I think it was fourteen and one
almost twenty in another he's got he being brawn has
a major problem because there's nothing he did this session
(13:22):
that he can point to and go, hey, just give
it a few months, give it a year. You're gonna
see things will all be better, so it can only
get worse from here for him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, let's figure this out. Why would that be. What
are they talking about right now? They're talking about redistricting,
keeping themselves in power, right Are they talking about property taxes?
Are they talking about lowering the gas tax? Are they
talking about lowering your electricity bill? Are they talking about
(13:51):
lowering sales tax? No, they raise that. In fact, they're
talking about your income tax. No, nothing that actually helps
the tax payers. The big message that you're hearing is
coming from Washington, DC, and it's not hitting with the averagoosure.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, people don't find value in the Republican Party. I mean,
I think that's the big takeaway here. If people found
value in the Indiana in the way Indiana Republicans are
governing and the way Republicans are governing in Washington, they
would be overwhelmingly in support of this. They would be
storming their rep and senators doors saying please do this.
(14:33):
And what has really become clear, and we've got we
got into this the last couple of days Ethan and
I did, and you and I've talked about this before,
is that the Republicans keep winning because the Democrats in
this state are and nationally are so unelectable to the
people of Indiana. If the Democrats did anything remotely normal,
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they would start winning elections and the Republicans never have
to face wake up call because the Democrats are so bad.
But you see this play out in these polls where
people say, just because we won't vote for the other
guy doesn't mean we don't hate you and what you're
doing right as well. And so I think the big
(15:14):
indictment here is that people are telling you what they
think about Republican based governance by saying, one, we don't
want any more Republicans in Washington, which is what there
would be, which is what they would be doing. And two,
this governor stinks at his job and hasn't been putting
priorities forward that are making our lives better.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And so we're just done with all of you people.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, I mean, he stood in front of a huge
crowd of people and said he was going to fight
for us, and then he turned around and he didn't.
And people are tired of the games. They're putting party
over the people who put them in those positions. I mean,
think about this, what we've had, the agriculture Secretary visit us,
(15:56):
We've had the Vice president visit us twice. The board
has now come is that helping you in your daily life.
Their message is so about the party and not about
the people.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, and so we're gonna have Ryan Hendrick from the
WBC newsroom next because a bunch of stuff on Mark Sanchez.
Jim Merrit will be with us at ten thirty today
and we're going to talk about that because that is
what these Republicans like. I don't even know if they care.
I don't think if they don't understand. I think they
don't care because they don't fear losing. Most of them
don't fear losing. Like, Okay, so I do this and
(16:32):
it's unpopular. Well, you've already, in a post COVID world,
laid down the line in the sand that no matter
what I do to you, you're going to keep voting Republican.
Which comes back to what my argument has been for
a long time, which is if you want this to change,
you have to let these Republicans lose some elections. It
starts next year with the Secretary of States race. The
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number one thing if you want to crack this Republican
cabal and you want to send a message to these
people that you're done just voting for them, no matter
what a horrible rotten thing they do, or horrible rotten
elected official or candidate they put in front of you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You have to stop. You have to.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Stop giving them that that, you know, impression or not impression,
but reality, that that's what you'll do, no matter what
bad the Republicans do. You're still saying, well, the Democrats
might be worse, so I'll just vote for you, regardless of.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Course they're going to abuse you as a taxpayer.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It seems like Bobai is getting some nice donations. You
got three hundred thousand from somebody, Yeah, from somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We need more rich friends. Now here's what I will
say about this, Because people were this guy who gave
him three hundred thousand dollars from Connecticut, and people, of
course then lose their minds. I said, well, wait a second,
we all know what's going on here. Let's not act
like we don't. But if you're going to tell me
that you're gonna sit in judgment of some guy publicly
getting a declared three hundred thousand dollars check from someone
(17:55):
who lives in this country, sure, who has to put
their name behind it. But you're not to say word
one about the current Secretary of State disappearing to a
foreign country for ten days. Oh and he won't tell
you who paid for Oh when we know the guy
who he went with, who has it, who had a
taxpayer funded contract, was bragging about selling visa access into
this country. If you have to ask me which one
(18:16):
I'm more concerned about, I'm infinitely more concerned about.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The mysterious trip that I don't know who paid park right, Yeah, yeah,
pop meat cattle U huh.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Ryan Hendrick is going to join us next on ninety
three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, lots of moving parts on the Mark Sanchez case.
Let's bring back in one of the best in the business.
I look, I think from a local perspective, nobody's covering
it like this guy, Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Ryan, Hello, Hey, what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, So, the big several big things yesterday with the
Mark Sanchez case.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
First of all, the judge recused herself.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So four big things yesterday, and this all unfolded over
the course of like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was very quick.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh yeah, so so The big thing is, you're right,
Jennifer Prince Harrison has recused herself and there's really only
four reasons why a judge would recuse themselves of a
case in Mary.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, this is very this is very perplexing to me because,
like you said, it's a pretty tight when you know,
set of rules and I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Which one box she's checking go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So personal reasons, financial reasons, prior involvement were bias in
the case. Now a lot of people are speculating that
her light sentences have compelled her to step aside, but
I don't think that's it because if these judges aren't
bothered by light sentences of killers, arm robbers and drug traffickers,
(19:39):
why would she be bothered by a perceived bias in
the Mark Sanchez case?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So, now, from a media perspective, there was some kind
of cheering on this because she had said no dice
on cameras in the courtroom. Now there's been a re
application to try to do we have a new judge?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is James Osbourne. And you're right,
there was an infusion of hammer of requests yesterday, back
to back to back camera requests right after she recused herself.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But we don't have a ruling on that yet.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And not to my knowledge, I checked my case about
an hour ago and there's nothing been decided in that run.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Does she have to say why she refused herself?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Maybe she's just a huge football fan.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, well she's the president of Mark Sanchez Fan Club.
She was a long standing member of the Jets Jo.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Maybe she had a lot of of his Brookie cards.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I texted a couple of cops I know in Indianapolis
to get some sort of perspective, and the Indie Star
has done a little digging with this as well. The
only thing we could do is guess right now, it's
just it's just a crapshoot at this point. Why did
she recuse herself, we don't know. But what we do
know is when she did recuse herself, this kind of
(20:51):
moved the court dates. So the court dates have now
been shifted and the first pre trial conference is scheduled
for October twenty second, and that's it, I believe one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They've already said a trial date. Not that I mean
they're not gonna actually have a trial on this day,
but the trial date has been set for December eleventh,
it has.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And then there's something before that a week before that,
a second pre trial conference I think on December third
or fourth.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now he wants to string or his legal team, I
would guess would want to string this out because you
talked about was as two days ago. You were with us,
and you said, in the Marion Kenny judicial system, if
you can convince the court you were an addict and
you're recovering, that's your basically your get out of jail
free car.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
And it tugs at their heart strings. It goes right
along with the pet causes, the social justice causes that
this prosecutor in his office believes so so much in.
And if they could put somebody in rehab or save
somebody's life under the guise of the addiction treating the addiction,
which is their kind of core issue, then I think
(21:57):
they're all for it.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So he said that he's recovered right now, but you're
saying if they put him in some sort of rehab
it will help him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I think it's a great defense for him because why
how else, besides being just ungodly evil, could you explain
attacking a sixty nine year old grease truck delivery guy
in an alley in Indianapolis. And I don't mean to
make light of this, but what other defense would you
be able to offer other than addiction?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Ryan Header from the WVC newsroom is with us. We're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So when he left the courthouse and Fox fifty nine
had asked him a few questions, he answered just a
few about how he was recovering and think the doctors.
He also mentioned that he'd be able to talk soon. Yeah,
when do you think that'll be? And what's what would
he say?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I think it would be a well crafted statement. I
think it would be a sit down on national TV
with a very kind of like a softball friendly, a
friendly news anchor that would just underhand him questions. Mean,
you know, when you look at his history, I think
it's telling that. On Sunday, his son's mother, Daniel, who's
(23:07):
eight years old, the three kids, she spoke two ts
yeah on Instagram and said I'm not surprised, none of
this surprises me. What does that mean? She just kind
of left us hanging.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So he's got a couple issues, right. Number one is
he's got obviously this potential prison sentence if he's convicted
in front of him, But there's also the underlying what
was he doing in that alley and why was he?
Why did he you know, we talked about this two
days ago when you were with us. He keeps like
circling back into that alley and then what made him
(23:38):
so mad? And depending on what the answers to those
questions are, the I mean he that may be the
thing he doesn't want to address out of all of this,
I don't know. I'm just saying that video sparked way
more questions than it provided answers.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I don't know if you ever if you were ever
picked on in high school, I was. There is a
guy that I will I'm going to name him because
I just feel I'm so angry to this point. His
name was is Kenny Picard. He was a linebacker on
our football team, and I'll never forget he was walking
up the steps to six period class and he turned
(24:12):
around and just punched me and I just fell back right.
He was a football player, big bully type guy. When
I saw Mark Sanchez in that alley, circling like a shark,
circling is prey to me that spoke of a guy
like Kenny Picard who was always looking for a fight.
I mean, here's a guy. He walked up and down
(24:34):
West Washington Street, west toward the pub, and back east
or east toward the pub, then back west knowing it
was closed, and then went back to the alley, looked
over his shoulder and you could see on the camera
he's looking at the bay where Perry Toll is unloading grease.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, the story, man, this is going to be fascinating,
and that's where what they are worried about coming out.
He does look like he or appears, you know, and
obviously it look it's it's security, you know, footage, et cetera.
It's black and white, et cetera. But it does look
like he's zoning it on this guy. Not just like
there was some switch the guy flip, but like he
(25:12):
was like appears very shark like about this dude.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I also want to go back to the the prior
involvements or biases. So if you look up Perry Toll
in my case, there's a mortgage foreclosure case that he
had and the judgment was for one hundred and fifty
eight thousand dollars. Bank of America secured that judgment against
him and a person I believe was his wife. I
(25:39):
wonder if there's and we're just kind of spitballing here,
but I wonder if there's some part of this Judge
Prince Harrison, who accused herself because she believes that she
may not be able to deliver a fair verdict in
the case. Because Perry Toll actually has a couple of
cases against him. One's a mortgage case of for cl case,
(26:01):
and the other one had something to do with his
truck in twenty thirteen. So I mean, there's all types
of speculation about why he filed the suit against Fox.
Who knows, but I know if Mark Sanchez punched me
or assaulted me, I'm suing him.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, now you mentioned that lawsuit. In regards to Sanchez,
He's got some legal bills that are most likely stacking up.
He's here at the criminal case, the civil case, and
possibly an employment case. Everybody is still listing him as
a Fox analyst. Is there any word on that his employment?
(26:39):
And when do you think Fox will make a decision.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I don't think they can make a decision until after
this case is closed. Because I know when in twenty fifteen,
when I had to check myself into rehab from a
radio station I was working at, they wanted to fire
me because I was in no call, no show on
multiple occasions, and I remember the news director coming up
to me and saying, it's only a matter of time
(27:03):
before we get to fire you because we know you're
going to go back out. We know you weren't taking
treatment seriously. So Fox has yanked Sanchez off of all
broadcasts for now while the court case goes on. But
there's no way, there's no way that he ever appears
on Fox again, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But they can't terminate him at this point.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
They can't because it's a case where he can turn
around and sue them again. The addiction thing is.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
A big play.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yet it's a big.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Play here because it is against federal law to fire
somebody that has an addiction, if they have not accepted
or if they've not been offered help. It is against
all it's ada thing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So if I just say I'm addicted to hating rotten politicians.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
No, no, if you were, it will play a hypothetical.
And I hate to drop your name like this, But
if you were to come in here drunk and our
boss said, you know what, you can't be on the
air today. And you came and drunk again and they
sent you home. They said, if you don't get help,
we're going to fire you. You know, if you refuse help,
then they could fire you. But we don't know what Sanchez.
We don't know what Sanchez is going through. And that's
(28:11):
that is a violation of ADA. I think if if
an employer were to fire somebody, it before the employee
sought help for their problems.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So this extra time will work in his favor.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I still think I said it with you and Ethan
on the show. I still think the addiction is his
core defense. Why else would you be in an ali
assaulting a sixty nine year old man.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom, Where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
X on at Sure to cover and then TikTok at
sure to cover number two and then of course WIBC
dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're the best.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Thank you, Casey. I watched a very interesting documentary last night.
I like talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, I want to hear about it. It is Kendall
and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So I watched an interesting documentary last night.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Casey, Yeah, you actually took time well sent down. Well okay,
in one segment, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Get on Casey, yuh Rob, that's Casey. So here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
So, uh daycare is closed this week, and by the
time the tyrant finally went to bed, she had done
him min't damage to my homestead.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I'm like, all right, it's gonna take mell.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He thought you were going to say she had done
immense damage to my mental health.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well that too.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, you know, I try to be home by
you know, twelve thirty or one, and then you know
it's basically like seven hours of you know, operating the
daddy daycare service. But you know, she goes to bed,
and I'm like, all right, I got to pick this
house up. I'm like, it's going to take me an
hour to pick this house up, so might as well
have something going on in the background. So I've been
hearing about this new documentary Amazon has on John Candy
(29:48):
and it's called I Like Me.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Colin Hanks, who is Tom Hanks's son, is the director
of this documentary, and it's fascinating because there are so
many famous people who are still living and actively currently
participated in this documentary from the entire span of John
Candy's life is Bill Murray, was Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, mcaulay, Culkin,
(30:13):
Dan Ackroyd mel Brooks.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, I mean, just Steve Martin, Bill Murray, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What's the funny guy Martin? Short.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
All of these people you know are in this documentary,
and that is predominantly the documentary. It's not so much about, well,
tell us about this movie or tell us about that movie.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
They're talking about it, and some of there is some stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
With the movies and the the Second City television all
that stuff, but they're primarily talking about him as a
as a person and what he was like and what
was fascinating about this this documentary, and it's sort of
this reoccurring theme at all stages of his life. And
John Candy obviously passed away very young. He was I
(30:52):
think forty four years old forty.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Three, passed away from a heart attack in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
What you from, So his father passed away when he
was very young. I think he was five years five
years old. I think on his fifth birthday, his father
had a massive heart attack and passed away, and then
it sort of from that moment forward, John Candy basically
got in his mind, I'm going to die very young,
and then it just manifested itself into this chaotic, sort
(31:22):
of tortured personal existence that no matter what achievements he
had professionally, and he was a mild kins of phenomenal
husband and father, but his personal life outside and away
from that was so chaotic, and every time somebody would
try to help him, whether it was his weight or
(31:42):
his addiction to alcohol, et cetera, he would become annoyed
and would. At one point, one of the guests on
the documentary said he would just remove any person who
would try to help him from his rolodex.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You're out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't want to hear that I'm fat, don't want
to hear that I have a problem with this, And
was fascinating to me to hear. And Ryan Hendrick, which
had just kept him for this segment, he would have
been great for this about a guy who has so
much talent and has so many things working for him
professionally and personally, and yet he's so internally tortured that
(32:18):
he refused to allow himself to enjoy it, and he
really in many ways.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Created his He created his.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Own demise by believing he was going to have demise
at a young age.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's almost a self fulfilling prophecy. Totally, totally.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I mean it was the documentary was so well done,
and it was it was everybody should watch it. He look,
John Candy is the Mount Rushmore of funny people. He's
totally up there with John Belushi and Chris Farley. And
you talk about a guy, what's so sad about this?
And this was the people you talk to who talk
about Chris Farley who knew him, you hear the same thing,
(32:54):
and John Belushi the same thing. Phenomenally nice human beings,
great people who loved their family and their wives and
and and and the people that they were around and
the people that they considered their family, and yet they
had these addictions and these sort of tortured souls where
they just couldn't ever really enjoy it and they couldn't
(33:18):
stop and see what they were doing to themselves, and
they brought about their end at a very young age.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's almost like he was convinced it was going to happen.
So why bother to change it anyway?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Totally, Yeah, totally, but uh, I just I wanted to
touch that because that was you know, you're kind of
casually listening to it and then it's good enough for
you doing the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You sit down.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I can actually enjoy it. So that I was up
cleaning till like twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Put off the clean doc was good.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It's like, this house is still a mess. I've accomplished nothing, but.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
You got to see this good documentary. It's called John Candy,
I like me and it's available for free on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, so everybody totally watch it, totally worth it. Are
what are we? What are we doing next?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Hey? Guess what what troops are getting paid?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh? Great?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Do you know by who?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Us?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Maybe? Maybe not Donald either, No, I do know. I
know what Donald Trump says.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh you're being deliberately vague.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yes I am.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You're vague booking me teasing.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh it's called a teas you're listening to Kettley Casey.
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