Kendall & Casey Hour 1, 10-17-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, all right, now this shutdown's getting a little fun.
Now we're ratcheting it up a little bit on both sides. Look,
we all know how it's going to end, or I'm
telling you right now how this is going to end.
The Republicans are going to strike a deal to continue Obamacare.
The Democrats are going to vote to have a vote

(00:20):
on reopening the government and Obamacare. You'll keep paying to
make insurance people very wealthy, and nothing will change in
the healthcare industry like that. That's where we're going on this.
I know where we're going to end on this. Heathan Hatcher. Politically,
you're one hundred percent correct. But I think Democrats are
going to take a real hit once again in their
approval ratings just because they are going to shoulder the

(00:42):
burden of blame for all of this. By the way,
Ethan Hatcher's in for Casey today Saturday night on the Circle.
But so I've been totally disinterested in all of this
because I know how it's going to end, because the
Republicans always hoff and they puff and then they give in,
and that's how the shutdowns work. But yesterday got a
little interesting because the Democrats cast a vote to tank

(01:07):
funding of the military, the Pentagon funding bill, and I said,
all right, now we didn't really do that. Oh yes, yes, yes,
Now this is how this is how completely disingenuous these
people are. This same bill. You know, there's all these
procedural votes and blah blah blah, you know what it
takes forever. By the way, the final VOTEA was fifty

(01:27):
to forty four. They need sixty votes. Democrats claiming in
protests they voted against this because Thune John Thune, the
leader of the Senate, basically said, all right, Democrats, you
want to keep voting to keep the government shut down,
I'll call your bluff. There's no you're going to vote
against the you know, the Pentagon bill, which earlier this year,
in overwhelming fashion, Democrats and Republicans had voted to move

(01:49):
this bill forward. That almost always happens. And now these
people are voting against. Some of them are voting against
the very bill they had just voted to move forward
not all that long ago. Hey, look, when Republicans are
caught doing a litany of stupid things, you got to
admit there is some smart strategy behind that move to
actually force them on the record to vote against funding

(02:10):
the memory military Democrats are out of their minds. That
is hilarious. Yeah, but what's crazy about this is and
I mean, these people have no shame, right obviously they
a bunch of these senators had already voted to move
the thing forward. I think the committee vote to move
it forward or whatever they call it in Washington was

(02:30):
twenty six to three, sort of overwhelming bipartisan support to
get it to the floor for a full vote. Now
you got these same people voting against the bill they
had just voted to approve. Rob Could this be why
Democrats are now also taking hits from within? I believe
we have some soundbites to that effect. John Fetterman once
again being the betterment and speaking the truth about what

(02:51):
the Democrats' intentions are.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's why shutting the government is really what the Democratic
Party wants to do. And I follow country, then party,
and it's the wrong thing for the country in a
period of chaos. I refuse to vote to shut our
government down. I absolutely would love to have I I

(03:14):
would love to have a conversation about extending the tax
credits for healthcare, absolutely, but I would remind everybody too,
this was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at
the end of the year. This is not something taken
from by the Republicans. That's they were designed to expire.
Now let's have a conversation to extend it and not

(03:35):
shut our government down.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So fascinating. He was on Chris Cuomo's program News Nation
and they're at some town hall and this visual I
know you can't see because he's radio, but with this
visual is great Ethan. It's Fetterman in a sweatshirt of course,
thank he's not dressing up. He's sitting next to Bill
O'Reilly and then Bill O'Reilly is sitting next to Stephen A. Smith,
the ESPN commentator. So these three guys are on a

(03:59):
stage together with Chris Cuomo moderating the town hall. That's
where that comes from. That is a cast of characters,
and I don't think you could have predicted that, like
four five years ago, if this happened in twenty twenty,
you know you wouldn't can see that kinding well and
Fetterman's fascinat because now the Democrats are mad at him
because he's pro Israel and he like he's reading the
tea leaves. Well, right, he's not clearly reading the tea

(04:20):
leaves politician, and so he's taking He was this very
left individual when he was I believe he was the
lieutenant governor in Pennsylvania. He was this very left individual.
Then he gets elected to a you know, another statewide office.
But but he's in a changing political landscape. He recognized, hey,
grenade thrower guy angle work, and so he's taken a

(04:43):
bunch of what are seen as pro Republican type positions.
And now the Democrats, because you can't have any of that,
they want to bounce the guy out office, and they're
like actively looking for a primary challenge to John Fetterman.
Is John Fetterman demonstrating the political theory that we've discussed
Democrats need to do in order to secure election, especially
in heavily Republican districts, by just acting normal. Because I

(05:06):
still wouldn't trust the guy further than I can throw
him when it comes to policy, when it comes to
the actual nitty gritty, but when it comes to the
talking points, he seems to be putting his best foot forward,
you know, coming off as shockingly normal. Well, the great
philosopher Homer Jay Simpson once said, I guess some people
never change or quickly change and then quickly change right back.

(05:26):
All right, so il han Omar, She's an insufferable sea hag.
She was what is she? She's Minnesota, right, She's a
Rep from Minnesota. She was on MSNBC, of course she was,
and she admits the shutdown is hurting people, but she
don't care.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Are you concerned for the federal workers, the thousands of
them that are furloughed during this, who are out of
work as this continues to drag on, potentially until or
through Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
It is completely devastating. I cannot you underscore just how
incredibly damaging it might be for some of these workers
who are going to miss a paycheck, and that might
mean they're not able to pay for their childcare, It
might mean they might not be able to afford food,
It could mean that they might not be able to

(06:17):
afford their their rent or mortgage. And that is why
this is even more important for us to be here
negotiating to figure out how to keep to reopen the
government but also address the healthcare crisis that we have
been talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You ever noticed with everything with her, she talks up
like this, that everything goes up, everything ends with her
talking higher than when she started. Have you ever noticed that?
Not particularly, I think that's her accent, Kevin, No, no, no, no,
that's not her accent. That's an afflect's she's there. Yeah, listen,
listen to this.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
So them that are furlough during this, who are out
of work, as this continues to drag on potentially until
or through Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
It is completely devastating. I cannot, you know, underscore just
how incredibly damaging it might be for some of these workers.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, okay, Well what you're hearing is Valley Girl, I think,
which tracks because that's who you know, Illhan has spending
a lot of her time around. So you know who
figured that out years ago was the women, the women
who were on this time slot before us. They figured
that out years ago. And I said, they're exactly right.
She every sentence almost that she speaks, she ends higher

(07:34):
than when she started. I less about her accent. I
was thinking about how damaging it is for Democrats to
stand on providing healthcare and financial services for illegal immigrants,
but then boxing out ordinary Americans, as she just said,
from being able to buy food or pay for their mortgages.

(07:55):
If that's the hill y'all want to die on then
go right on ahead. Yeah, that's she hadally very stupid.
They don't care, so no more Democrats don't ever get
to say again they're very concerned about the American people.
Ye all right, real quick before we get to a break.
So also in NewsNation, this was News Nation Jim Jordan.
I think this is the same town hall event that
Chris Cuomo had. Jim Jordan, who's a US REP. From Ohio,

(08:17):
Republican Rocanna, who is a Democrat REP. From California. I
believe they had a fascinating little back and forth on
who's to blame for this? And I just thought it'd
be fun to listen to these two go back and forth.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
You know why no one believes this Chuck Schumer thing
the country things used to ineffective to actually be shutting
things down. Does anyone believe that the Democrats actually are
like running things? You got Donald Trump, you got the
Republicans in charge, the Republicans of the Senate, and so
this argument that the Democrats are blocking things are just
not believable.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
You know, tell me, did you hear what the senator said?
To get something passing the Senate? You need sixty votes.
The first guest on, Chris Mischelle, was one of those
Democrat senators who voted with Republican but they need five more,
but why not there? So you got to understand basic civics,
how the how the Congress works.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You got to get sixty votes. You ask all this,
you could do it, and you can try to blame.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
You can try this.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Cadyne, don't know what he's looking.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You got how our government is a dumpster fire. It's
a dumpster fire. It wasn't it wouldn't be nearly as
entertaining to listen to this show. It's just it's it's
great for us. It's just like we'll keep us in business,
but it's horrible for the American people. All right, let's
take a break. When we come back, John Herrick from
the w IBC newsroom is going to join us. It
was a massive day yesterday for sports in the state

(09:34):
of Indiana. And look, Ethan, I took this off your
plate because I know you famous, and I literally texted John,
I said, Ethan doesn't exactly do sports. So John Harrick,
very true, who is mister IU will be with us
to discuss what a big day it was it's kind
on the Casey Show ninety three w IBC. Or it

(09:55):
was a massive day for sports in Indiana yesterday. Some
guy got a jillion dollars. Let's get to the bottom
of it. John Herrick, news director here at WIBC, also
the pregame, halftime and postgame host for all things Indiana Athletics, football,
and basketball, joins us now John Herrick. Hello, Hello, Rob.
How are you so we have a programming tonight right

(10:18):
here in WIBC.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, it feels like it gets earlier and earlier every
year where they have exhibition games for IU basketball. So
they start their first basketball game against it. It's against Marion.
So Marion has their athletic director is Steve Downing who
played at IU back in the seventies and they've always
just had that relationship. And Pat Knight coaches Marion nice Son,

(10:42):
so there's an IU relationship there between both schools.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
And then the big game tomorrow. I you giving nine
million points to Michigan State, but that's homecoming.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
That is homecoming.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yes, Okay, Now, speaking of which, big news yesterday, Kurt Signetti,
the IU football coach, the best thing that ever happened
to him was James Franklin getting fired at Penn State
because he just signed a massive contract extension. Tell us
about it.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
Well, So, I mean, I think that Pam Whitten and
Scott Dolson thought last year when they signed him to
a big extension, that's the president, that's the president and
the athletic director. I think they thought, well, this is
going to last a while. Well, James Franklin gets fired.
Kurt Signette's name is thrown around as a potential candidate
to replace Franklin at Penn State and from and I'm

(11:29):
not surprised at all because from the conversations I've had
with Witten and Dolson, they are not going to let
Kurt Signette get away.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
They're just not.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
And so when I heard that Franklin got fired, and
you know, you know, Kurt Signette's from Pennsylvania, I was like,
they're not going to let this happen. They just won't.
So they they were able to go and remodify his deal,
and instead of having him stay through twenty thirty one,
it's now through twenty thirty three. And instead of him
making eight million, he's now making closer to twelve million.

(11:58):
But here's the funny thing. Under his old old salary,
he was like the eighteenth highest paid coaches. Well, I
was talking a few of my friends yesterday, there's no
way there are seventeen coaches in college football that are
better than than Kurt signetity. So they had to re
up his pay to make him, you know, more competitive
with some of the elite coaches, especially when you're coming

(12:18):
off that big win over Oregon.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
So it's eight years, ninety three million dollars.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yes, so it's eleven point six thereabouts, and it's making
per year.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's guaranteed, right if they give him the boot, like
let's just say he turns into a bad coach overnight.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah, he gets it all. Yeah, he gets it all.
And then the buyout is massive. I don't know the
exact number, but it would probably be more than what
Jimbo Fisher got. I think Jimbo Fisher has the largest buyout,
which is like close to seventy seven million.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it comes up to like eleven point six million
dollars a year. So he in two years will really
less than two years, went from making two million dollars
a year to eleven point six million dollars a year.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yes, And ten years ago he said he was making
one hundred thirty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
He said that.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Last night on The Coaches Show with Tom Fischer, and
now he's making close to twelve million.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, but the reality of this is he's probably worth it,
especially as the Big ten is rumored to be now
Michigan and US. He are apparently holding this up. But
in some deal that could be worth two billion dollars
for this conglomerate or whatever they're looking at putting together
to make money off rights deals, each of the schools

(13:28):
will be in for at least one hund one hundred million.
I mean, football and basketball are the drivers on this
for if your IU, you can't let the guy go, Yeah,
you definitely can't.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
And especially with you know, most of your money coming
from football sales and ticket sales, With that and all,
there's just so many people that come to football games
compared to other sports. And when people ask me, well,
why does football drive so much of this, Well, A
lot of it's about attendance. And then when you sell
out your stadiums constantly, then you build bigger stadiums, like
so IU stadium holds about a little over fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Is that the John Mellencamp Field. Is that what it's called.
That's that's the practice field. Mart Memorial Stadium is what
holds closer to fifty five. He only gave enough to
get the practice field named after a methan Yeah. Yeah,
is there like a menu when you give Well, I
want the factual field name it. Okay, that's gonna cost us.
What about the practice field, Well, here's gonna be okay,

(14:21):
I'll write a check for that. Yeah, I don't know.
There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes there.
John Herrick from the WBC Newsroom is our guest. He's
also the pregame halftime postgame host for IU football and basketball.
You can hear him tonight. In fact, right here on
WIBC i U basketball starts tonight. So, but when you
think about it from an economic standpoint, people are going

(14:43):
to IU football games now, yeah, no offense. Somebody was
going to the games two years ago.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
No, they weren't.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So you're almost getting your money back just based on that.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean you're basically, I mean, he's bringing so
much money into the university just before anybody shows up
to the game to buy a hot dog. I mean
He's just the interest in the buzz around AU football
has been in a level it's never been before. I
mean there's been different seasons where they've had one good
season here and there, and then they fall off the map.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Ethan, I wish everye could see either. Now you can't.
If you go to the YouTube chat, look your jaw
is hitting the four. Because and this is why I said,
I've taken this off your plate, even because I know
you don't do sports, think about this. The guy was
making two million dollars two years ago and now he's
making an eleven point six million guarantee. The main takeaway
for me is that at least college universities have the
ability to build their own sports stadiums. I wonder how

(15:33):
long it is before we start having to call up
and pay for those too, just like we do Lucas
Oil Stadium. That's a good point. I mean, at least
they're generating enough income to make it self sustaining. Regardless
of whether I can even build another stadium, I know
they just do a bunch of stuff and I used to.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
Yeah, they've been upgrading it, and I do think at
some point that they are going to make upgrades Kurt
Signetti had said in the off season that that press
box is going to come down, which I know Don
Fisher would love to have happened, because it does need
to be upgraded, as do a lot of press boxes
around the big ten Penn States, which is.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
All bad, awful, terrible, absolutely horrible. Yes state.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yes, So when we went in there two years ago,
there's no room in that press box at all, And
so I just waited until Don set everything up. I'm like,
you're far more important. I'll wait till you get set
ups and then I'll sit in next to you. And
we were like elbow to elbow me him, but me
and him, rht Lewis and our stat guy were just
like all knuckle to knuckle at It's terrible in there.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
You ever get tempted, like just when you're doing the
pregame show or something, just go on a rant about something.
I mean, you got the live mic.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
We do, but we yeah, we all kind of go
on rants during sometimes during commercial breaks. One time a
wasp flew in and it almost it came really close
to stinging Don. So I grabbed a water bottle and
I just killed this wasp and he's over here. Like,
what are you doing? I was like, saving your life
is what I'm doing. A wasp was getting near you, just.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Like here at WIV. You never get the credit you
deserve here, John Tonight IU basketball. What time does this
game start?

Speaker 7 (17:04):
It starts at seven thirty. We go on at six thirty.
Very good, John Herrick, thank you, Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Kenll The Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Trump's former national
security advisor, John Bolton has been indicted. It's overclassified documents.
It's all over classified documents these days. What do we
make of it? It's Kennlly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's
out today. Ethan Hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle

(17:29):
in for Casey. Before we get to this programming note
coming up at ten o'clock, bo Bie, Democrat candidate for
Secretary of State, will be with us and a lot
of people are interested with what he has to say.
So that's coming up at ten o'clock. All right. So
John Bolton, he was a you know, national security guru
the Trump the Bush administration, and then for some reason

(17:52):
Trump brought him on even though he appears to be
in direct his philosophy philosophically in direct contrast, I mean,
he's seems to want to bomb everyone. Yeah, kill them all,
turned the entire continent into glassy as the John Bolton
foreign policy philosophy, which is very odd that Trump picked
him because Trump has kind of prided himself on being
the peace president and keeping us out of wars and

(18:14):
military conflicts. But he made the choice and then so Bolton,
it didn't go well, which I think everybody saw that
coming his time with Trump, and then he became a
fierce critic of the Trump administration after he was let go,
quit whatever you want to call it. And now he
finds himself under indictment over bringing classified documents into his

(18:36):
home and then sharing them with people via electronic messaging.
If the reports are true, then he deserves this indictment
because his handling of classified information was even domer than
Hillary Clinton. Remember she had her private server. He didn't
keep this stuff on a private server. He put it
on Google. He put it on his private email and
then sent this to family members. So you want to

(18:58):
talk about misappropriation, mishandling a very sensitive information that was
later hacked by Iran. This is an investigation that does
I understand it goes back to twenty twenty two in
the Biden demonstration, So you can't even say, oh, it's
Donald Trump exacting political revenge on his opponents. No, no, no,
this goes back years now. Yeah, so CNN has a
big deep dive on this, and you're right, Ethan. One

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of the big things is he alerted. I think it
was the FBI that his email in twenty twenty two
was hacked, and it was an Iranian believed to be
an Iranian actor that got in there and got the information.
And Craig Collins played this on the show this morning.
Craig was in for Tony that Bolton is a complete

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hypocrite because he was all over the news shows when
Trump was under investigation and then later indictment over hand
handing classified documents, saying throw the book at it. They're
all hypocrites, Rob But Joe Biden was keeping classified documents
next to his corvette in the garage. So eighteen counts
of the indictment here is MSNBC as the indictment came

(20:02):
down in real time.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, so John Bolton was charged with eighteen federal counts
and I apologize. I'm going to look down. I'm reading this.
We're still just getting this. We have the first eight
counts our transmission of national defense information. The second set
of nine counts those that's counts nine through eighteen is
retention of national defense information. And that looks like it's
US Code Title nineteen, section seven ninety three D and E,

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which is part of the Espionage Act. Now, there was
another statute that they were considering, and it looks like
they've only charged him with those Espionage Act statutes. But
we're still reading through this indictment. It's twenty six pages long.
There's a lot of background information here, and I apologize,
but we're literally just getting this in right.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Now, okay, And I think the big thing, and again
we'll see what comes of this, is that via electronic messaging,
he was transmitting these documents to people in his family. Yeah, yeah, no,
I mean it gets a stupid are because this comes
from a lot of private notes that he was taking
and writing down by hand in a notepad, which is already,

(21:07):
you know, not an ideal way to handle sensitive information,
but at least it can't be reproduced unless you upload
those handwritten notes to a digital device, which is exactly
what was going on, John, you've you've defeated the purpose
of a handwritten note. John, Yeah, I mean it's one
thing to say. And actually his defense seems to center
on the fact of well leaders, government leaders for years

(21:30):
have kept handwritten there. There we go. It is one
thing to have the documents on your person. Look, I
think I think we maybe get a little stringent on this,
Like people are moving countless files, et cetera, especially president's
vice presidents. Is their malicious intent, you know, I think
that's part of it. But it's one thing to have
it on your person. Hey, I brought this box of

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stuff home with me, you know, made a mistake whatever.
But then to be as you said, taking these correspondents
and then uploading them to the internet or anybody can
and apparently did get into them, that's another story. Not
just the Internet, but specifically Google and as anybody who
has an ounce of knowledge about the technology industry. Google
checks everything that is uploaded to your Google Drive. AI

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is constantly scanning and attempting to moderate potentially illicit or
illegal highly you know, sensitive materials that are moving through
their servers. Google knows anything that you're putting on to
a Google Drive. Google can access so Trump. Trump got
asked about Bolden, and in classic Trump fashion, he had

(22:34):
something to say. Just indicted by Branduri and Marylynd. Do
you have a reaction to that. I didn't know that
you told me for the first time.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
But I think he's, you know, a bad person.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think he's.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
A bad guy.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad. But that's the
way it goes. That's the way it goes, right, that's
the way it goes. Well, I have you reviewed the
case against him? No, I haven't. I haven't, But I
just think he's a bad person. Anybody else me have
no idea this was going on. Yeah, sure, buddy, But
I think he's a horrible person. I can believe that

(23:07):
Trump hasn't reviewed the case. No, I don't think he's
reviewed the case. But I think he knew exactly what
was going on. Sure, sure, right. And I'm torn on
this because on one end, it really does start to seem
like when you in rapid time, you have Letitia James,
Homie Bolton James coming, former FBI Director of Latita James

(23:28):
Attorney General New York, and now Bolton, fierce vocal high
profile critics, all being indicted within what a couple weeks
of each other. This does sort of seem like using
your office to get at your enemies. But then I
stop and go, well, they totally did it to him
first exact. But does that excuse I don't know if
that excuses you doing it back to them. I have

(23:49):
concerns as an American citizen about all of this. As
we said repeatedly when they were doing it to Trump,
that this seems very wrong. It also sort of seems
wrong that Trump is doing it back. But fair lack
show you in federal prison, you know you might be
a little pissed off too. They backed the wrong horse.
They were happy to dance on Donald Trump's grave when

(24:09):
they thought it was going to be another four years
of Biden or Kamala Harris. And then now you know,
the winds of fate have changed, all right, speaking of Trump,
So I thought there was there. You know, there's this
big cease fire in the Hamas Israel conflict, working towards
a peace agreement. Everybody's very excited. What we say. We said,
well wait a second, now, let's just hold everything. This

(24:30):
is a nice day that these hostages are coming home.
But how many times have we heard peace in our time,
and then very quickly everything just disintegrates again. I can't
believe that a couple pages of a peace treaty didn't
solve thousands of years of ethnic and religious hatred. Rob
I'm really shocked by that. Apparently Hamas is still doing
bad things, and Donald Trump wanted to send a message

(24:52):
to them. So I'd like to do a dramatic reading
of the the I don't know if this this tweet
or truth or wherever it was he with this on
social media. I'd like to do a dramatic reading. If
that's all right, Oh, absolutely, here we go. If Hamas
continues to kill people in Gaza, which is not the deal,

(25:17):
we will have no choice but to go ahead and
kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
So the Hamas is under control, it seems to not
be going so well. Do these people not realize that

(25:39):
they're on a territory like a third of the size
of the city of Indianapolis limits it would be very
easy for the United States to completely obliterate them. It's
just fascinating to me though, that like we totally called it.
We're like these people may do things in the moment
to benefit them for self survival. But this is not
Scrooge waking up after being visited by three ghosts. They're

(26:00):
not gonna change. They never change. They don't want peace,
they don't care about you know, like we said Saudi Arabia,
you can deal with them because they want money, they
like stuff, they like prestige, they like power. These people,
they're just out to do damage. I've already seen that
they're harassing their own citizens who helped Israel in some way,

(26:22):
or who are attempting to leave the borders of Gaza like.
These people are monstrous, murderous savages. Yeah, all right, Okay,
when we come back Ethan have you do? You spend
a lot of time on the north side of Indianapolis,
but rarely, rarely. I don't have the money. They keep
hooligans like me out. They're trying to fight this out
of the market. I don't even have the money to
travel to that side of town. Well, you may have

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seen that they've got those speed speed cameras up there,
oh on the highway for sixty five yes, yes, yes,
letting you know that if you speed in a construction zone,
you're in big trouble and we have some preliminary data
on how much money that has made for the government
at your expense. We'll tell you when we come back.
It's Kettel a Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. You people

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need to slow down in the construction zones because you're
giving the government way too much money. It's Kettle a
Casey show. I'm rob Ethan's in for Casey today. So
this year, through the Act of the General Assembly, in
DOT began installing speed cameras at various construction zones across

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the state of Indiana, and one of them now can
be found on the north side of Indianapolis on four
sixty five, and WTHR has the reporting on this. I
think some other news agencies do as well. That residents motorists,

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according to them, with this Marion County work zone, are
getting one thousand tickets a day in terms of people
going over the speed limit. According to them, in DOT
has mailed one hundred and sixty eight thousand violation notices
in the first one hundred and fifty eight days of enforcement.
I'm sorry, how many one hundred and sixty eight thousand

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violation notices in the first one hundred and fifty eight
days of enforcement, don't we isn't the entire population of
Indianapolis something like eight hundred thousand people. Yeah, it's a
stary number, by the way. So specifically this is they
call it Interstate for sixty five, Interstate sixty nine work zone,
and the total amount of money that they have generated

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is just over six hundred thousand dollars in fines. Now,
this is what's interesting about this is the way this works.
The first offense is a warning letter, the second offense
is a seventy five dollars fine, and the third or
more costs you one hundred and fifty dollars. And they've

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already gotten six hundred thousand dollars at it what they have. Now,
I've said this because I've driven this twice, I think,
and I am a notorious rule follower, even when there's
no threat of financial penalty. I actually think this is
somewhat dangerous because me following the speed limit, me following

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the rules, you're going so slow at this point, you're
so cognizant that you're you're almost a danger to yourself
in the flow of traffic because everyone else is kind
of still not doing it. So while yes, they're getting
a letter or a fine for not doing it. It's
creating a hazard for yourself. It was very nerve wracking

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because you've got a window, right, It's like, forty five
is the speed limit? You can drive to fifty five
and not get the letter, But what's the fifty five?
Is the fifty five by their speedometer? Obviously it is,
but does that match up with your speedometer? So you're
constantly paying attention to your speedometer, still trying to go
with the flow of traffic. And I think it's creating
another safety hazard by doing this. I get wanting to

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keep the construction workers safe. I get all that. I understand.
I'm not disputing that, but I think there must be
a better way because as a rule follower, it was
probably making me less safe as a driver. Honestly, I'm
kind of surprised that they're keeping up to speed at
all up on that section of four to sixty five.
Aren't they constantly slowed down or being congested just because
the lane restrictions and construction anyway, Because how are people

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even getting up past fifty five unless it's very earlier
in the morning or middle of the night. Maabe, It's
a nightmare so this was several months ago. I'd avoid
that side of town like the plague. Thankfully, as a
West side person, there's a very little reason for me
to ever have to be up there. It's very expensive.
They don't want you up there anyway. Rock Yes, you
and I cannot afford to go up there. But that
is the amount of money that has been generated so

(30:43):
far by this six hundred thousand dollars with one hundred
and sixty eight thousand violation notices sent. You know, back
in the Middle Ages, something that had to be contended
with if you were walking from village to village, or
if you had the enormous luxury of being able to
ride a horse to the next village was highway robbers.
Ah yes, and that that pre existed organized law enforcement

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for the most part. But I thought that was the
whole point of having an organized civil society, was the
highway robbery was supposed to go away, and you're telling
me it's come back, and now it's in the form
of a camera. Look again, I think it's a tough
conversation to have because there are people who clearly abuse
you know, the rules of decent society, which are, Hey,
you're in a construction zone where people are trying to
do their jobs, you got to protect those people. You

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got to slow down, and everybody's got to kind of
work together. And when people refuse to do that, then
you're creating a very unsafe environment for those people who deserve,
you know, reasonable reasonable amount of safety to do their jobs.
So how do you enforce that, I'm just saying, on
the other side of the equation, sometimes, especially when the
traffic is flowing in a certain manner, trying to make

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sure you keep your automobile within a very distinct number
while also watching that and trying to drive and trying
to avoid everything that is very hectic. Well, you're demonstrating
is the insidious underside of this whole thing, which is
that it's not about safety at all. You know, they

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coda in the veneer of this. You know safety, Oh,
it's a protecting construction workers and it's protecting you in
a construction zone. But it's about generating revenue, and they're
creating safety hazards in the process. Of course, it's about
getting revenue. It's a way they found that the public
would be sympathetic to to be able to generate revenue. Now,
and if you let them get in their foot in

(32:32):
the door, which now they have, you can bet more
of this is a common Well. So when we went
to Chicago a couple months ago of sixty five, there
was one of these zones, but there was nobody working.
There was nobody working in the zone, and so my
question is were those cameras even active? And if the

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goal is to protect workers, which I understand, how can
you be giving people? I mean, there was nobody. It
wasn't like people were at lunch. It was like there's
nothing going on. And this was during the week, like
there was not a single worker the entire stretch of this,
you know, Interstate sixty five, there was not a soul
to be seen that was doing any sort of work.

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And so my question is are those cameras active then,
And if so, well, you're not really about protecting workers,
then clearly we're just about trying to get money from people.
The powers that be very much would like to turn
us into Chicago, and we're already outpacing Chicago when it
comes to crime. I'm not sure if you've looked at
the data for how much revenue that Chicago is taking
in from these speed cameras, but they are getting to

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the tune of millions of dollars robed in some cases
from a single camera on a single street. It's nuts.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
And then new factor in there. They're gonna they're going
to do these toll roads. It's just a matter of
time before brawn. Yeah, tolls, probably everything in exists in
seventy sixty five, it could be the only state that
tolls every stretch of the Interstate Highway. No other state
in the Union does that. Yeah, it's so any anyway,
I just want to update the public that that's if
you've gotten one of the those letters. Now, the first

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letter is just supposed to be just a warning, so
hopefully you weren't getting uh, you weren't getting fined for that.
All right, So we got a couple of big things
we got to get to next hour. The first thing
out I want to just tease this real quick, is
someone shot up one of your houses. Mm hmm, Well,
well I think it was a couple of people. It's more,
it looked like two different calibers of bullets, and they came.

(34:22):
The bullets came from two different directions like they were
they were They turned the place into Swiss Cheese Rock.
You tweeted this out. What's your Twitter handle? You can
follow me at Ethan Hatcher. That's my name, E t
h E n h A t c h E R
at Ethan Hatcher on Twitter or on my podcasting page
Saturday Night on the Circle dot Fireside dot FM. Okay,
so you have the photos up of what we're going

(34:42):
to talk about next hour, because this no pun intended.
It blew my mind that somebody, I mean, the brazen
nature of this and the visual of it is simply unbelievable.
We'll talk about that next hour and the big thing
when we come back. Bo bye. Democrat candidate for Secretary
of State, son of Evan By, former governor and senator,

(35:03):
grandson of birch By, famous center from Indiana. He is
running for secretary of State and he is going to
sit down with us for the first part of the
hour next hour and talk about this campaign and even
I'm gonna be fascinated to get your perspective on this,
because he really is the last hope for the Democrats.
If this fails, the Democrat, if he fails, all the
money he's raising the name the pedigree. If he fails

(35:25):
and running against all probably what will likely be a
horrible candidate in Diego Morales. If they can't win that one,
they might as well just fold it up as a party. Yeah,
I mean, this is gonna be a very interesting conversation.
He has every advantage and if they fail to capitalize it,
then they deserve capitalize on it. Then they deserve to lose,
all right, bo By Coming up next, Kennelly Casey Show,
Natty three, WIBC.