October 29, 2025 • 35 mins
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's the lead story today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you ever wonder why you pronounced the G twice
in the word longevity?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Casey, I was told there was no grand Jerry. I
was told it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
According to some news outlets, that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was told. We were lying, we were making it
all up.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It was a plot, some bizarre plot to get the
Lieutenant governor and then lo and behold, yesterday the indie
star Fox fifty nine, you know, basically every media out
in the city reported that exactly as we had said
for months, that there is a grand jury along with
the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office, who is not only looking
into the Lieutenant Governor Michah Beckwitt in his office, but
(00:47):
they're looking into them for the exact things we said
that they were looking into them for, which is artificial intelligence, pornography,
and ghost employment.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That's correct, and so oh we were right.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
No apologies from anyone in the Micah beck With camp,
who repeatedly tried to deny that this. Look, it's not
even the thing, right, it's the deception and the manipulation.
And that's what you get from Micah and his orbit
is denials, deception, manipulation and Micah beck With and this
(01:26):
this pains me. You go through stages of grief on
something like this, and I've reached the point now where
I'm numb, numb to it and I just simply want
justice at this point, like I've finally accepted what he is,
because when you go through this and someone that you
were so Look, Micah beck With at one point was
(01:46):
at least I thought, and now in hindsight believe I
was just being used the entire time. But Micah beckw With,
I perceived as one of my closest friends at one point,
my pastor, he married my wife, and I, I mean,
I thought the world of the guy. But what became
abundantly clear to me is that the guy is a
(02:07):
habitual liar. He's highly fraudulent, and I couldn't simply ignore
that and what he was doing in his role as
the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, the second
highest ranking official in the state of Indiana, because at
one point I thought he was my friend or my buddy,
and I just refused to do that. And look, I'd
(02:29):
eat a lot of crow on this because I don't
like any of these people. I make a living out
of holding these people accountable. And the guy that I
put up on a perch and said this is the
one guy everybody can believe and trust in proved to
maybe be the worst of them them all.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And for a.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Prideful person such as myself hard that was a hard
thing to do. But the onus to the is to
the audience. My obligation is to our audience who gives
up their time to listen to us every day. And
the obligation had to be to say, Ooka, I know
this stuff is going on. I know why it's going on.
I'm not going to hide it from you. I have
(03:06):
to tell you about these things that we are seeing
and that and that we are we are going through.
And what became very obvious once Micah got elected is
I describe him essentially as an American Greed character. American
Greed is this documentary style show on CNBC. It's been
on for years and basically what they do is they
(03:27):
report on famous uh in most cases criminals who deceive people,
defraud the amount of money, you know, and they're and
they're they're conmon right, And in the case of Micah,
I don't think he's he didn't take any of my money.
(03:48):
But the deception, the level of deception, the type of deception,
the the way that they manipulate people and they con people,
or he cons people into thinking he's something he's not,
is exactly the same. It's not not committing a financial crime.
But he is the best I've ever seen at convincing
(04:08):
people that he is something he is not, and he
has gotten away with it for so long that he's
gotten so good at it that even when presented with
irrefutable evidence this was going on, like I had talked
to multiple people who had given information to the Marion
County Prosecutor's Office.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, Representative Craig Haggard has confirmed he was interviewed by
the Marion County Prosecutor's Office.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
And yet he was so good at lying and so
habitually apparently addicted to it that even now he and
his step I mean, this clown that talked to Indie
Star Graham, what's his face still wouldn't come off even
(04:55):
in Indie Star. And then these other media outlets have
these irrefutable documents that the grand jury investigation is going
on exactly as we said it was going on, they
still won't come off that this is taking place. I
want to read this guy's quote because it is everything
about Micah Beckwith and his orbit in one quote. So
(05:17):
again Indie Star Fox fifty nine running this story that
is now irrefutable evidence has come out that a grandeur
exists looking into Micah Beckwood's office documentation related to artificial intelligence,
pornography and ghost employment, and his quote to The Indie
(05:38):
Star in their article Graham Loft heat is that how
you say his last name long l O U G
H E A D. That's the guy. He's listed as
a spokesman. When we're feed with this irrefutable evidence that
this is going on, and again, no one ever said
that a grand jury means an indictment is coming, right,
(06:00):
no one ever said a grand jury means a conviction
is coming. We have simply said everybody knows this is
going on. And even when presented with the evidence, he
said quote active grand juries are confidential.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Therefore the office has no knowledge of this.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So everyone and their brother can look at this and
see this is going on. And when presented with this,
you go, well, that's confidential. We have no knowledge of this. No,
this is public. This has gotten out into the public.
Everybody's reporting on it. But that's the orbit. It's deflect, deny, deceive.
Think about just on this case, how many conflicting statements
(06:41):
we've caught Mike in. So he spends in I believe
this was March. So Tom Labianco is this freelance journalist
who broke this story July August, whenever it was, and
in I think March, Lobianco was hired to work on
a piece for a media organization about Micah beckw with
(07:01):
and he contacts Micah, and Micah agrees to allow this
guy to spend a whole day with him. He's in
the car, he goes to the events with them, like
they're around each other for an entire day. It wasn't
like the guy asked one question in passing, he went
on merry way. And yet when the story surfaced, Micah
(07:23):
immediately moves into attack mode of this, you know, an
anonymous journalist or I don't know who this guy is
or this this this per I don't I'm I don't
know who this is, and like it's you're going, I know,
you spent an entire day with this guy and his
name is all over this stuff. But in the Micaeh
orbit because if I say it, I've always gotten away
(07:44):
with it, then.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'll just do that.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Then he tries to say I found out about the
allegations about AI pornography from Lo Bianco. Well, l'abianco told
us on this program. He said, no, Oh, Micah told
me that he found out from an employee in the
treasurer's office. These may sound like little lies or little untruths,
(08:09):
or little conflicting statements, but when you put them all together,
just like how did he end up in Game three
of the NBA Finals with the high profile known felon.
When it's one conflicting statement or lie or deception after another,
you put them together and you realize this is a
pattern of a behavior from this guy. He is a habitual,
pathological liar who will say or do anything to save himself.
(08:33):
He will throw anyone under the bus. He has harmed
several people who did nothing but try to help him.
He has caused them great grief and consternation and expense
to do the right thing, and he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Give a damn.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
That's who Micah beck with is a person who only
cares about himself and will throw anybody under the bus.
He has to and will lie about anything he has
to to try to make himself look better. The problem
is now everybody's onto it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
There have been no indictments, have been now charges At
this point, where is the governor on this? It is
the Braun Beckwith administration.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
That's a great question casey because Mike Braun knows exactly
what he is too. But because Mike Braun is such
and were talked about this yesterday. Uh with Braun Bron's
a very meager, timid person. He's a coward, He's gutless.
Go back to January sixth. He was a real billy
(09:29):
badass on the election, the issues with the election, and
we gotta not certify the election, and we got to
stand up and we gotta this, and we got that
until some people went into the Capitol building then all
of a sudden, well, I guess none of that happened.
Let's just sign off and get out of here. Mike
Brown showed who he was on that day and this
is how he's handled Micah. Mike Brown is petrified to
(09:50):
stand up to Micah because he's worried about the people
in Micah's orbit coming at him. Mike Braun craves acceptance,
He craves being liked, and he is pathetic scared of
his lieutenant governor and even though he knows exactly what
he is, will not stand up to him.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It is the Kendall and Case Show. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That's a lot of money to pay for a TV station.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, media landscape in Indianapolis changing, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Eighty three million dollar deal? This is like wild?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah that the folks who own wish TV, who has
our news gathering partner, have announced that they have purchased
WRTV six, which is the ABC affiliate has been for
I think my entire life here in Indianapolis, for a
staggering eighty three million dollars strategic investment.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It looks like because with WRTV now, Circle City is
going to gain access to all the ABC programming, which
includes the NBA, w NBA and some college football broadcasts.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now I'm very excited because I just expect to see
the our friend Phil Sanchez on all the newscasts all
the time.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, he's the anchor for wish TV, and now we
can just see him simulcast on ABC and look forward
to just all fill all the time on all my
television channels. Yeah, but it's fascinating because when I was
a kid growing up until what I don't know, maybe
it's ten years ago, at Camera Hung and Penn.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Wish TV was the CBS affiliate.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And then ultimately they ended over ended up flipping over
to was TTV four. When I was a kid, channel
Channel four, CBS four as it's called now, which is
owned by the same people won Fox fifty nine. And
so now the one who owns Circle City Broadcasting is
the company's name, right, was gonna get another cracket owning
(11:57):
owning in the network affiliate. In terms of being with ABC.
It is interesting too, how now you're going to have
how television in this city is sort of mirroring radio
in which a couple of companies are owning the majority
of the properties. You've got CBS and four and Fox
fifteen nine owned by the same people. You'll have Wish
(12:17):
TV and WRTV owned by the same people. So you're
really sort of seeing the same thing in our business
now happening over in television.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So this acquisition is going to add WRTV two Circle
City's existing lineup.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
As you mentioned they have Wish TV.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
They also have my INDIETV twenty three and Circulus Digital Media,
and they say that this is going to strengthen their
local media presence and enhance the value to the viewer
and their advertisers.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And you got to wonder.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
WRTV has that building which is on Meridian Street in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now is we's going to move over there?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And it is fascinating And this is more your world
because you were on television for years. But when whenever
these purchases happen, the immediate response is, well, how's it
going to affect the employees?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
How does this affect me? That's everyone's first response with
anything sure.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And so when Urban One bought WIBC, we were chuckling
because all the people said.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, that's it for WIBC. They're done.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Get ready for it to be uh, you know, Spanish
come one day. And we were like, Yeah, these guys
like money, and we make a lot of money. I
think we'll be fine and to it. And not only
in fine. We love working for these guys. And from
the extent of we never hear from them. They're like,
just keep the ratings high, in the revenue flow and it.
(13:40):
You'll be just fine because money.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's pretty good agreement.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Money is the universal language, right, that is that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So it will be fascinating to see what changes though
come to WRTV, because let's face it, you're sort of
bound and again you can correct me if I'm wrong
on this. TV's your your area of expertise, but you're
sort of bound by certain programming, right like your ABC.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, sure, there's obviously the syndicated contracts, and many times
those contracts will say you have to air this program
within a certain amount of time.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't foresee a whole lot of changes in regards to.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That, right, So that's where I come to how much
can you actually tinker with the network affiliate in terms
of you know, you can't quote unquote flip the format
per se. No, So is it really unlike radio or
you can come and do basically whatever you want to
do with it? It almost is, And I think it
was alluded to this Presley's it's really strengthening the brand itself.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right now I.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Have this other mega property to put with what I
had before, and you know, you probably will be able
to overlap certain you know, certain services overlap. You'll be
able to condense those save you know, a few dollars here,
a few dollars there. But I don't think you're going
to see some wholesale change to WRTV six.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I doubt that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
What they might be able to do is if they
had to preempt certain programming, they could put it on
the other station. More than anything, what I would gather
has happen is because they'll have more synergy there, they'll
get rid of redundancies, and oftentimes that affects.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The non on air departments.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, more like you know, the collections department or possibly
the the HR department, because they won't need multiple people
when one person could do the job.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, you know, this is what I figured out in
this business. It took me a while to figure it out.
What do you call it? The PEDA level? Yeah, pain
in the ass level. Oh you said it, Well you
can say that. I'm still problem with that.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, your your PEDA level should never be higher than
your worth.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, the the and and I'm the best example of this,
right pretty much. I have a like, I'm very high
on the on the amount of drama I cause.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
For the the the New York co hubs.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, I was gonna say, the muckety bucks here, you know,
the about them, the big tim But I bring a
lot of good qualities to this station too, and that
you like, you accept that when you bring someone like
me on board, You're like, Okay, we're going a lot
of complaint phone calls about this guy, but we also
get a lot of traction, a lot of attention because
of this guy. And I never do anything that would
be you know, untoward in terms of the rules and
(16:21):
regulations by which we are forced to play by here,
and the drama I bring is just mostly telling politicians
exactly what I think of them and them not not
like but.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
As long as our listeners engage enough, it makes you
worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And television, while like being the nightly newscaster is a
different game, it's sort of the same thing, right, Like, Okay,
I got a pay X, but we get why based
on people tuning in because this person does a good
job doing the news or the reporting or the weather
or whatever it might be. And so the the you're saying,
the staffing, the way they do things really ain't all that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Much different, No, probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
We get to have more fun here, though always more
fun than television.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I actually I watched WRTV in the morning.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That's my station that I put on in the morning
because they're anchor.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Kendall cousin Kendall.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Kendall's all around all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah. You know what's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
When I started here, WISH WRTV was our news gathering partner.
They worked with WRTV before. I don't know, it's been
several years now. We ended up partnering over with WISH,
and so now maybe we'll all be one big, happy family.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well that's a decision for someone above our pay grade.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Is that's right.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't want to ever get paid to make any
decisions ever, aget except for the fact that, look, Casey,
think about what we have coming up next. Yeah, first
of all, you have the dynamic, vivacious, incredibly talented Jarret
Loose with the news and that'll probably knock your socks off.
And then yeah, Jim Merritt is going to join us.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, y u RC interviews going on, it's going on.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We got to talk about the special session that's coming.
We're gonna get to some of this Mica stuff. It
is going to be just a wild and wacky morning
here on the Kennel and Casey Show.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Lisa, Well, there's so much we can use your expertise
for today. Well, Robert, good morning, dealers choice. I'll let
you decide where to go. It's Kelly Casey showing.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Rob Casey's here thirty years Ndianason at the Great Jim Merritt. Hello, Hello,
Now you're very You're dressed to the nines today because
you're doing these I U I U r C interviews.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, we're a nominating committee for UH to give some
opportunity to the governor on who he should pick for
the three spots on the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Now you'll be there with your suit. I saw yesterday
you were looking very menacingly at the interviewees as you
would ask them questions.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's it's very it's it's not intense, it's it's it's
just it's a grind gas law.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But it's fascinating stuff, especially if you're a government nerd.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
But then you enjoy energy. I enjoy which is the
topic of every day.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I enjoy having energy, which we keep up with these
data centers. We may not have any but anyway, UH Okay,
let's start with the Lieutenant governor. Obviously, that was our
lead story today that came out Indie Star, variety of
other outlets saying what we've been saying for months now,
that there's a grand jury looking in to the Micah
beck with in the office of the Lieutenant Governor. Now
(19:29):
we have said on this program, this is ridiculous how
the Lieutenant govern has handled this, which is basically to
be combative about anybody that suggested this was going on,
because a grand jury doesn't mean an indictment, and an
indictment doesn't mean a conviction. But when you are so
ridiculous about even acknowledging something exists, then you look like
(19:49):
a complete fool and dishonest and deceptive. When the articles
started coming out about the thing existing.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And we've been talking about this for some time, and
you know, I think I have and many others have
had problems with crime and Marion County and what goes
on in the prosecutor's office and and the idea of
the you know, the revolving door. If you look back
on the Willie Horton UH a problem back way back
(20:19):
thirty forty years ago, and UH with George Bush and
Michael Dukaka is running for president. And so you know,
the revolving door that we've always talked about at in
the Marion County Prosecutor's office is alive and well as
an issue. But the Lieutenant governor not handling this correctly
(20:41):
because there's there's emergency communications and how you handle these situations,
and they've handled it so terribly.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Robert Well the biggest Okay so and again Indie Star
other outlets reporting, as we've told you on this program
for months, that the grand Jury and the Marie County
Prosecutors is looking into AI porn allegations, they're looking into
ghost employment allegations. There have been multiple, many meetings of
this grand jury, according to documents that have become available.
(21:14):
But Mike's biggest problem is he loves to hear himself talk.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And this goes back to.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
As soon as he got in office and the stuff
with the car where anytimes I want sticks a microphone
or camera in his face, he's got to talk. And
he has talked himself into so many corners now because
he is a habitual liar and he cannot keep his
lies straight, and in this case, he's made himself just
look foolish again.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Well in this case, also, they're not doing this at
the Marion County Prosecutor's Office just for political purposes.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
They can't do that.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And grand juries have to be locked down tight in confidentiality,
and so they're not going to have to spend the
resources for people to come in and serve on this
grand jury. Isn't There's got to be some fire behind
that smoke.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, And it's always no matter what happens with Micah,
it's never his fault, and he has so many of
these people. Look, I think they want to believe, and
I think a big part of it is because of
what he did before he was lieutenant governor. I think
that there's a lot of people who refuse to believe
that someone who professes their faith the way that Micah has.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I'm not trying to doubt his faith, but I'm saying
the guy as a politician is a complete scumbag. And
the idea that all these people just, no matter what
the thing is, hey ends up with this high profile
known felon at the NBA Finals and can't tell a
straight story about it. A guy who's done some pretty
ridiculous stuff. Well, there's an excuse for that. The stuff
(22:46):
with the car, like all of this stuff, it's always
well that somebody's out to get him.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So it's a conspiracy against him. It's political.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And I've seen it with this stuff too, and it's like, no,
it's that he in his office I have been alleged
to have operated in a fashion that is not in
line with how the office is supposed to operate when
you're a state wide office holder.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And so they're looking into it. It's that simple, it is.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And you know, another on another plateau on this whole situation,
when I think it was Harry Truman said, if you're
in Washington, don't get you don't have friends, get a dog. Well, well,
the Indiana State legislature, in the state House itself is
a is an enormous family. Republican and Democrats not so
(23:35):
much anymore. But but you need your friends to have
that security net around you, to be there when you fall.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And and and.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Watching a lieutenant governor last year or so, I don't
think those friends are there now and and and uh,
there are so many situations that he's confronted with now
by just guilt by association or his friends or or
his office.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
This.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Uh, you know, if something should have break, there's not
going to be anybody there to catch him.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and he deserves what he's getting because when he
got elected, you know, I told him, and people in
his orbit they said, because I said, well, now we're concerned,
like you're going to treat him the way you treat
other politicians, said I am. I said, but as long
as because he's an elected person, you no longer my friend.
He's an elected for he's the second most powerful person
in the state. And I said this, I said, as
long as he does what he's supposed to do instence
(24:29):
of holding true to his word and doesn't lie to
me or deceive me or gonna be fine. And from
almost the get go that he got in there, it
was lies, it was deceit. And you're right, Jim, the
ones I didn't like him already and now because of
the lies and the deceit on the other side didn't
like him either. He doesn't have much in his corner,
which he's gonna need.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Well in politics. I think everybody listening to this understands
that you need credibility. You need that. I'm not going
to say Street cred because I don't say that, but
you need credibility in the state House and and that
bubble that is fifteen to twenty. You know, people in
Lagrange County don't know about this yet, but they will
and and you know, the idea of politics being a
(25:13):
team sport is still there. But right now he just
doesn't have the he doesn't he had. He doesn't have
the you know, the sway of people around the state House.
And you need that. And I remember when you said,
you know, if you keep your head down and you
do everything right and you make the friends, you know,
(25:34):
Katie bar the door, you could you could be governor
in eighty years. You told him that totally.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He would.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
He would be if he had just done what he
campaigned on and kept his nose clean and his office's
nose clean, he would be in the perfect position to
primary Braun in a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But he couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's gluttony, this dude and the orbit around him. It's gluttony.
And these people could not help themselves. They're like these
people who win the lottery who have no ability to
manage money, and they're like, look at us, But it's
government and there are rules and there are regulations, and
that's what the Marion County brosk.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
If you don't like it, then don't be in the government.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Well, also, you know, Governor Braun is up for election,
and you know, some of us don't think he's going
to run. I think he will, but but he may
be looking for a replacement on the ticket with him
on somebody that's favorable with the delegates, and there are.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Several that would be all right, real quick before I
let you go the spe like, there's so much to
get to. It's all happening all at once. Jimrat is
our guest thirty years in the Indiana Senate. The special
session is happening on Monday. We talked about the State
House happenings. We'll get into it with the duel later.
It seems like the governor has put Rod Bray in
(26:49):
the leader that said, in a very bad position, basically saying, well,
I'm I gotta do this because of Trump.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I dare you to vote it down.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Does Rod Bray, who has said the votes are not there,
does he the stones to stand up to the governor
and say, I warned you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It's gonna look very bad for you it's going down.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Protems need stones, they need strength, they need a backbone.
And I've seen many now many protems that I've worked with,
and I work with Center Bray as well as Yes,
Broad Burray does have the stones. It'll pass. There will
be a special session. It'll pass the House. The Senate
(27:27):
believes in decorum, also with transparency, and they'll try to
put it through committee and on the floor.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It'll fail on the floor.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And now then we will have a crisis in the
state House next week.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
So does your believe it will fail? It will get
a vote, but it will fail.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yes, it will fail the Senate.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Okay, Bromberg. If it does fail, can Broun recover from that?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, because too is major as you failed, which is
property taxes.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He failed on that. Everybody hates him because of that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
And now he's going to try this and he's gonna
get slapped down by his own Senate if that happens.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
She just folded up.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
It just all depends on what he does next and
how he handles that. It's always the next step on handling,
you know, crisis communication and uh, well, we'll just have
to see. I can't tell you because because you know.
We we saw the failure of the property tax reform
issue Senate Bill one will royal local governments for the
(28:23):
next couple of years. We're seeing it now and and uh,
it goes back to you know, how you handle crisis
and situations, and we'll just have to see.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Boy, I hate that I have to cheer for Rod Bray,
but I do. And nothing would make me happier than
to watch that thing go down. And Rod Bray would
be a rock star if he did that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well, certainly, if you'll hate it, it's certainly going to
be something to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
That's what we need. I can't get that. I can't
get that. Lucky.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Find him on Twitter at Jim Underline Merit also Merrit
in the Morning Yes Podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Good luck with your interviews today. Thank you, it's okay
ninety three WIBC. I can't. I don't know what to
make of what you got in the mail. I don't either, That's.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why I had to bring it to your attention.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It was a flyer that I got in the mail,
actually more like a postcard, Uh huh, And it just
says are you prepared?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Am I prepared for?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Funeral planning cremation questions, bank account management, grief support.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Believe it or not, they've thought of that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I got invited to a complimentary meal and presentation about
planning my death.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah. So basically, whoever sent that to you, who thinks
your time is nearing an end? Right, and they.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Said you better. I was addressed to you or your husband,
the whole family. The whole family. Then once you're your
twenty four year old daughter to get in on this,
all of us.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
They want us to come and have this meal and
hear about I mean, I guess that is something you
do have to consider, especially if you have aging parents.
But I feel like I'm there yet, Rob, Why is
someone pushing me in this direction?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, look, you are sixty three years old.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm not. Oh even at that age, it still seems well.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Okay, So my question is, so it was actually addressed
to your family by name? Yes, because somebody owned your
high rise before you did. And I thought, well, maybe
that person was elderly and maybe they were thinking like, oh,
we got to get them in on it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But no, they had her name or resident. They didn't
really care. Who's there, just somebody Okay.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
So I was thinking about this the other day, I
was sitting there eating my Arbi's and I was thinking,
you know, I've been coming to this restaurant for twenty
five years now, and well longer than that. I was
coming there when I was a kid. I was coming
by myself for twenty five years now. I've been coming
since I was in elementary school. So thirty plus years now,
(30:49):
I remember being there as a kid, and I'm thinking, like,
thirty years from now, I may not be remember having
been here thirty years ago. Like that's where the point
I'm life like I am. I am, though youthful in
beauty and spirit. Sure, the reality is this is like
an automobile. The time is starting to you know, you're
(31:14):
on the other side, and the warranty probably doesn't cover
me anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Isn't that something though? But you're in your mind you're
still twenty something.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Oh totally. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You know, when I look in the mirror, I don't
I don't see a forty year old person. I still
see myself.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I can get down, I just can't get back up.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I just I think part of it is because I
didn't go through the normal phases of life like.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I like, you know what I'm saying like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I didn't have a child until I was in my
in my thirties or the late thirties, and I never
had a normal job, so I never like when I
was younger, I didn't get in the habit of getting
up and going to work.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, you never had a nine to five.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Uh, you've been nine.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
To new And even now I don't have a normal job, right,
Like I go in for four hours and just sit
there by myself and wants the you know, planets spin around.
But then there are times where I get hit. It's
like I'm you know, I'm forty years old, Like I'm do.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You want the card? You need it? Are you prepared?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Are you? Are you prepared?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
In my case, I'm always prepared that some politics are
gonna run me over in the parking garage.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So you're gonna be prepared.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You should be prepared. Maybe you need to go for
the compliments presentation.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Such an interesting marketing ploy like basically sending things to
people's home and saying.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, you're gonna go soon.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
What are these days?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You better your number's gonna get called now.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I read a thing somebody posted this, and I think
they said the greatest aging people do is that the
ages of forty four and sixty four statistically.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, I don't know if that's accurate.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
This was a health person who posted this fitness person,
so I have no reason to doubt that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I wasn't inquisitive enough to read the to read the article, but.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Well, good luck.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I had a girlfriend who told me that once you
hit fifty, it's much harder, and.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I believe I was like forty eight, like life's much harder. Yeah, yeah,
I think it was around forty eight when she told
me that. I was like, oh whatever, but she was right.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
keV, you're thirty. Have you found living is harder now
at any point? Or are you still basically like, I
can you out with me? You out till three?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean, my social circle doesn't really go out as
much as we used to because they're getting married and
having kids.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Right, so it's different for that reason.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
But I feel like I can still keep up with people.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Have you kept the same group of friends because I
always had to rotate through new friends about every two
years because they would they would move on with their life,
and I said, I'm too immature for that I'm going
to stay here and do the same stuff. So I
had to rotate through new friends, like every two years.
Do you have you kept the same batch of friends.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I guess I hang out with certain people more
and less.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That would be hard than if you had the same
group of people. You know, me, I could make friends
with the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Fly so friends when your daughter enters school, Hey, I
got enough friends, because you'll become friends with a friend's parents.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
They know who I am.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Kevin, the real question are you prepared? Would you like
the number? They have a nice QR code you can scan.
You know, it's probably not a bad thing to think about.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you never know when you're gonna
get you know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Well for him, he probably won't have social Security, so
things could be harder for you.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Well, that's right, Key, you better prepare sooner.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You are going to be a maker and Casey is
going to be a taker, and I'll probably be somewhere
in the middle. So so, hey, grandma or glad you're
still with us.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
By the way, you're very well preserved.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Thank you. I'm glad I'm still with you too.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Most people will not look at you and think you're
seventy six years old when you're doing a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I look age a little bit like a whole one day?
Does it equal a year?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Here?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Isn't it weird how some people you look at them
and you just like you would have no idea what
their actual age is on both in of the spectrum,
Like some people you look at them and you think, oh,
you know they're twenty, they're twenty five, and you know
they're thirty five or forty. And then some people you
look at them and you're like, there's some girl I
went to high school with in elementary school and I
looked at her and I was like, is that her mom?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Like how old is this woman age?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
And I was like, oh, she's forty like me, she
looks sixty five years old.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well you are evergreen. Rob Kendall, thank you. It is
The Kendall and Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sup
What's the lead story today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you ever wonder why you pronounced the G twice
in the word longevity?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Casey, I was told there was no grand Jerry. I
was told it didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
According to some news outlets, that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was told. We were lying, we were making it
all up.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It was a plot, some bizarre plot to get the
Lieutenant governor and then lo and behold, yesterday the indie
star Fox fifty nine, you know, basically every media out
in the city reported that exactly as we had said
for months, that there is a grand jury along with
the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office, who is not only looking
into the Lieutenant Governor Michah Beckwitt in his office, but
(00:47):
they're looking into them for the exact things we said
that they were looking into them for, which is artificial intelligence, pornography,
and ghost employment.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That's correct, and so oh we were right.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
No apologies from anyone in the Micah beck With camp,
who repeatedly tried to deny that this. Look, it's not
even the thing, right, it's the deception and the manipulation.
And that's what you get from Micah and his orbit
is denials, deception, manipulation and Micah beck With and this
(01:26):
this pains me. You go through stages of grief on
something like this, and I've reached the point now where
I'm numb, numb to it and I just simply want
justice at this point, like I've finally accepted what he is,
because when you go through this and someone that you
were so Look, Micah beck With at one point was
(01:46):
at least I thought, and now in hindsight believe I
was just being used the entire time. But Micah beckw With,
I perceived as one of my closest friends at one point,
my pastor, he married my wife, and I, I mean,
I thought the world of the guy. But what became
abundantly clear to me is that the guy is a
(02:07):
habitual liar. He's highly fraudulent, and I couldn't simply ignore
that and what he was doing in his role as
the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, the second
highest ranking official in the state of Indiana, because at
one point I thought he was my friend or my buddy,
and I just refused to do that. And look, I'd
(02:29):
eat a lot of crow on this because I don't
like any of these people. I make a living out
of holding these people accountable. And the guy that I
put up on a perch and said this is the
one guy everybody can believe and trust in proved to
maybe be the worst of them them all.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And for a.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Prideful person such as myself hard that was a hard
thing to do. But the onus to the is to
the audience. My obligation is to our audience who gives
up their time to listen to us every day. And
the obligation had to be to say, Ooka, I know
this stuff is going on. I know why it's going on.
I'm not going to hide it from you. I have
(03:06):
to tell you about these things that we are seeing
and that and that we are we are going through.
And what became very obvious once Micah got elected is
I describe him essentially as an American Greed character. American
Greed is this documentary style show on CNBC. It's been
on for years and basically what they do is they
(03:27):
report on famous uh in most cases criminals who deceive people,
defraud the amount of money, you know, and they're and
they're they're conmon right, And in the case of Micah,
I don't think he's he didn't take any of my money.
(03:48):
But the deception, the level of deception, the type of deception,
the the way that they manipulate people and they con people,
or he cons people into thinking he's something he's not,
is exactly the same. It's not not committing a financial crime.
But he is the best I've ever seen at convincing
(04:08):
people that he is something he is not, and he
has gotten away with it for so long that he's
gotten so good at it that even when presented with
irrefutable evidence this was going on, like I had talked
to multiple people who had given information to the Marion
County Prosecutor's Office.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, Representative Craig Haggard has confirmed he was interviewed by
the Marion County Prosecutor's Office.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
And yet he was so good at lying and so
habitually apparently addicted to it that even now he and
his step I mean, this clown that talked to Indie
Star Graham, what's his face still wouldn't come off even
(04:55):
in Indie Star. And then these other media outlets have
these irrefutable documents that the grand jury investigation is going
on exactly as we said it was going on, they
still won't come off that this is taking place. I
want to read this guy's quote because it is everything
about Micah Beckwith and his orbit in one quote. So
(05:17):
again Indie Star Fox fifty nine running this story that
is now irrefutable evidence has come out that a grandeur
exists looking into Micah Beckwood's office documentation related to artificial intelligence,
pornography and ghost employment, and his quote to The Indie
(05:38):
Star in their article Graham Loft heat is that how
you say his last name long l O U G
H E A D. That's the guy. He's listed as
a spokesman. When we're feed with this irrefutable evidence that
this is going on, and again, no one ever said
that a grand jury means an indictment is coming, right,
(06:00):
no one ever said a grand jury means a conviction
is coming. We have simply said everybody knows this is
going on. And even when presented with the evidence, he
said quote active grand juries are confidential.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Therefore the office has no knowledge of this.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
So everyone and their brother can look at this and
see this is going on. And when presented with this,
you go, well, that's confidential. We have no knowledge of this. No,
this is public. This has gotten out into the public.
Everybody's reporting on it. But that's the orbit. It's deflect, deny, deceive.
Think about just on this case, how many conflicting statements
(06:41):
we've caught Mike in. So he spends in I believe
this was March. So Tom Labianco is this freelance journalist
who broke this story July August, whenever it was, and
in I think March, Lobianco was hired to work on
a piece for a media organization about Micah beckw with
(07:01):
and he contacts Micah, and Micah agrees to allow this
guy to spend a whole day with him. He's in
the car, he goes to the events with them, like
they're around each other for an entire day. It wasn't
like the guy asked one question in passing, he went
on merry way. And yet when the story surfaced, Micah
(07:23):
immediately moves into attack mode of this, you know, an
anonymous journalist or I don't know who this guy is
or this this this per I don't I'm I don't
know who this is, and like it's you're going, I know,
you spent an entire day with this guy and his
name is all over this stuff. But in the Micaeh
orbit because if I say it, I've always gotten away
(07:44):
with it, then.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'll just do that.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Then he tries to say I found out about the
allegations about AI pornography from Lo Bianco. Well, l'abianco told
us on this program. He said, no, Oh, Micah told
me that he found out from an employee in the
treasurer's office. These may sound like little lies or little untruths,
(08:09):
or little conflicting statements, but when you put them all together,
just like how did he end up in Game three
of the NBA Finals with the high profile known felon.
When it's one conflicting statement or lie or deception after another,
you put them together and you realize this is a
pattern of a behavior from this guy. He is a habitual,
pathological liar who will say or do anything to save himself.
(08:33):
He will throw anyone under the bus. He has harmed
several people who did nothing but try to help him.
He has caused them great grief and consternation and expense
to do the right thing, and he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Give a damn.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
That's who Micah beck with is a person who only
cares about himself and will throw anybody under the bus.
He has to and will lie about anything he has
to to try to make himself look better. The problem
is now everybody's onto it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
There have been no indictments, have been now charges At
this point, where is the governor on this? It is
the Braun Beckwith administration.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
That's a great question casey because Mike Braun knows exactly
what he is too. But because Mike Braun is such
and were talked about this yesterday. Uh with Braun Bron's
a very meager, timid person. He's a coward, He's gutless.
Go back to January sixth. He was a real billy
(09:29):
badass on the election, the issues with the election, and
we gotta not certify the election, and we got to
stand up and we gotta this, and we got that
until some people went into the Capitol building then all
of a sudden, well, I guess none of that happened.
Let's just sign off and get out of here. Mike
Brown showed who he was on that day and this
is how he's handled Micah. Mike Brown is petrified to
(09:50):
stand up to Micah because he's worried about the people
in Micah's orbit coming at him. Mike Braun craves acceptance,
He craves being liked, and he is pathetic scared of
his lieutenant governor and even though he knows exactly what
he is, will not stand up to him.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It is the Kendall and Case Show. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That's a lot of money to pay for a TV station.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, media landscape in Indianapolis changing, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Eighty three million dollar deal? This is like wild?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah that the folks who own wish TV, who has
our news gathering partner, have announced that they have purchased
WRTV six, which is the ABC affiliate has been for
I think my entire life here in Indianapolis, for a
staggering eighty three million dollars strategic investment.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It looks like because with WRTV now, Circle City is
going to gain access to all the ABC programming, which
includes the NBA, w NBA and some college football broadcasts.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now I'm very excited because I just expect to see
the our friend Phil Sanchez on all the newscasts all
the time.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, he's the anchor for wish TV, and now we
can just see him simulcast on ABC and look forward
to just all fill all the time on all my
television channels. Yeah, but it's fascinating because when I was
a kid growing up until what I don't know, maybe
it's ten years ago, at Camera Hung and Penn.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Wish TV was the CBS affiliate.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And then ultimately they ended over ended up flipping over
to was TTV four. When I was a kid, channel
Channel four, CBS four as it's called now, which is
owned by the same people won Fox fifty nine. And
so now the one who owns Circle City Broadcasting is
the company's name, right, was gonna get another cracket owning
(11:57):
owning in the network affiliate. In terms of being with ABC.
It is interesting too, how now you're going to have
how television in this city is sort of mirroring radio
in which a couple of companies are owning the majority
of the properties. You've got CBS and four and Fox
fifteen nine owned by the same people. You'll have Wish
(12:17):
TV and WRTV owned by the same people. So you're
really sort of seeing the same thing in our business
now happening over in television.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So this acquisition is going to add WRTV two Circle
City's existing lineup.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
As you mentioned they have Wish TV.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
They also have my INDIETV twenty three and Circulus Digital Media,
and they say that this is going to strengthen their
local media presence and enhance the value to the viewer
and their advertisers.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And you got to wonder.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
WRTV has that building which is on Meridian Street in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now is we's going to move over there?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And it is fascinating And this is more your world
because you were on television for years. But when whenever
these purchases happen, the immediate response is, well, how's it
going to affect the employees?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
How does this affect me? That's everyone's first response with
anything sure.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And so when Urban One bought WIBC, we were chuckling
because all the people said.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, that's it for WIBC. They're done.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Get ready for it to be uh, you know, Spanish
come one day. And we were like, Yeah, these guys
like money, and we make a lot of money. I
think we'll be fine and to it. And not only
in fine. We love working for these guys. And from
the extent of we never hear from them. They're like,
just keep the ratings high, in the revenue flow and it.
(13:40):
You'll be just fine because money.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's pretty good agreement.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Money is the universal language, right, that is that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So it will be fascinating to see what changes though
come to WRTV, because let's face it, you're sort of
bound and again you can correct me if I'm wrong
on this. TV's your your area of expertise, but you're
sort of bound by certain programming, right like your ABC.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, sure, there's obviously the syndicated contracts, and many times
those contracts will say you have to air this program
within a certain amount of time.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't foresee a whole lot of changes in regards to.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That, right, So that's where I come to how much
can you actually tinker with the network affiliate in terms
of you know, you can't quote unquote flip the format
per se. No, So is it really unlike radio or
you can come and do basically whatever you want to
do with it? It almost is, And I think it
was alluded to this Presley's it's really strengthening the brand itself.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right now I.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Have this other mega property to put with what I
had before, and you know, you probably will be able
to overlap certain you know, certain services overlap. You'll be
able to condense those save you know, a few dollars here,
a few dollars there. But I don't think you're going
to see some wholesale change to WRTV six.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I doubt that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
What they might be able to do is if they
had to preempt certain programming, they could put it on
the other station. More than anything, what I would gather
has happen is because they'll have more synergy there, they'll
get rid of redundancies, and oftentimes that affects.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The non on air departments.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, more like you know, the collections department or possibly
the the HR department, because they won't need multiple people
when one person could do the job.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, you know, this is what I figured out in
this business. It took me a while to figure it out.
What do you call it? The PEDA level? Yeah, pain
in the ass level. Oh you said it, Well you
can say that. I'm still problem with that.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, your your PEDA level should never be higher than
your worth.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, the the and and I'm the best example of this,
right pretty much. I have a like, I'm very high
on the on the amount of drama I cause.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
For the the the New York co hubs.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, I was gonna say, the muckety bucks here, you know,
the about them, the big tim But I bring a
lot of good qualities to this station too, and that
you like, you accept that when you bring someone like
me on board, You're like, Okay, we're going a lot
of complaint phone calls about this guy, but we also
get a lot of traction, a lot of attention because
of this guy. And I never do anything that would
be you know, untoward in terms of the rules and
(16:21):
regulations by which we are forced to play by here,
and the drama I bring is just mostly telling politicians
exactly what I think of them and them not not
like but.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
As long as our listeners engage enough, it makes you
worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And television, while like being the nightly newscaster is a
different game, it's sort of the same thing, right, Like, Okay,
I got a pay X, but we get why based
on people tuning in because this person does a good
job doing the news or the reporting or the weather
or whatever it might be. And so the the you're saying,
the staffing, the way they do things really ain't all that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Much different, No, probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
We get to have more fun here, though always more
fun than television.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I actually I watched WRTV in the morning.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That's my station that I put on in the morning
because they're anchor.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Kendall cousin Kendall.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Kendall's all around all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah. You know what's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
When I started here, WISH WRTV was our news gathering partner.
They worked with WRTV before. I don't know, it's been
several years now. We ended up partnering over with WISH,
and so now maybe we'll all be one big, happy family.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well that's a decision for someone above our pay grade.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Is that's right.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't want to ever get paid to make any
decisions ever, aget except for the fact that, look, Casey,
think about what we have coming up next. Yeah, first
of all, you have the dynamic, vivacious, incredibly talented Jarret
Loose with the news and that'll probably knock your socks off.
And then yeah, Jim Merritt is going to join us.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, y u RC interviews going on, it's going on.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We got to talk about the special session that's coming.
We're gonna get to some of this Mica stuff. It
is going to be just a wild and wacky morning
here on the Kennel and Casey Show.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Lisa, Well, there's so much we can use your expertise
for today. Well, Robert, good morning, dealers choice. I'll let
you decide where to go. It's Kelly Casey showing.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Rob Casey's here thirty years Ndianason at the Great Jim Merritt. Hello, Hello,
Now you're very You're dressed to the nines today because
you're doing these I U I U r C interviews.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, we're a nominating committee for UH to give some
opportunity to the governor on who he should pick for
the three spots on the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Now you'll be there with your suit. I saw yesterday
you were looking very menacingly at the interviewees as you
would ask them questions.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's it's very it's it's not intense, it's it's it's
just it's a grind gas law.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But it's fascinating stuff, especially if you're a government nerd.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
But then you enjoy energy. I enjoy which is the
topic of every day.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I enjoy having energy, which we keep up with these
data centers. We may not have any but anyway, UH Okay,
let's start with the Lieutenant governor. Obviously, that was our
lead story today that came out Indie Star, variety of
other outlets saying what we've been saying for months now,
that there's a grand jury looking in to the Micah
beck with in the office of the Lieutenant Governor. Now
(19:29):
we have said on this program, this is ridiculous how
the Lieutenant govern has handled this, which is basically to
be combative about anybody that suggested this was going on,
because a grand jury doesn't mean an indictment, and an
indictment doesn't mean a conviction. But when you are so
ridiculous about even acknowledging something exists, then you look like
(19:49):
a complete fool and dishonest and deceptive. When the articles
started coming out about the thing existing.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And we've been talking about this for some time, and
you know, I think I have and many others have
had problems with crime and Marion County and what goes
on in the prosecutor's office and and the idea of
the you know, the revolving door. If you look back
on the Willie Horton UH a problem back way back
(20:19):
thirty forty years ago, and UH with George Bush and
Michael Dukaka is running for president. And so you know,
the revolving door that we've always talked about at in
the Marion County Prosecutor's office is alive and well as
an issue. But the Lieutenant governor not handling this correctly
(20:41):
because there's there's emergency communications and how you handle these situations,
and they've handled it so terribly.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Robert Well the biggest Okay so and again Indie Star
other outlets reporting, as we've told you on this program
for months, that the grand Jury and the Marie County
Prosecutors is looking into AI porn allegations, they're looking into
ghost employment allegations. There have been multiple, many meetings of
this grand jury, according to documents that have become available.
(21:14):
But Mike's biggest problem is he loves to hear himself talk.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And this goes back to.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
As soon as he got in office and the stuff
with the car where anytimes I want sticks a microphone
or camera in his face, he's got to talk. And
he has talked himself into so many corners now because
he is a habitual liar and he cannot keep his
lies straight, and in this case, he's made himself just
look foolish again.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Well in this case, also, they're not doing this at
the Marion County Prosecutor's Office just for political purposes.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
They can't do that.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And grand juries have to be locked down tight in confidentiality,
and so they're not going to have to spend the
resources for people to come in and serve on this
grand jury. Isn't There's got to be some fire behind
that smoke.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, And it's always no matter what happens with Micah,
it's never his fault, and he has so many of
these people. Look, I think they want to believe, and
I think a big part of it is because of
what he did before he was lieutenant governor. I think
that there's a lot of people who refuse to believe
that someone who professes their faith the way that Micah has.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I'm not trying to doubt his faith, but I'm saying
the guy as a politician is a complete scumbag. And
the idea that all these people just, no matter what
the thing is, hey ends up with this high profile
known felon at the NBA Finals and can't tell a
straight story about it. A guy who's done some pretty
ridiculous stuff. Well, there's an excuse for that. The stuff
(22:46):
with the car, like all of this stuff, it's always
well that somebody's out to get him.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So it's a conspiracy against him. It's political.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And I've seen it with this stuff too, and it's like, no,
it's that he in his office I have been alleged
to have operated in a fashion that is not in
line with how the office is supposed to operate when
you're a state wide office holder.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And so they're looking into it. It's that simple, it is.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And you know, another on another plateau on this whole situation,
when I think it was Harry Truman said, if you're
in Washington, don't get you don't have friends, get a dog. Well, well,
the Indiana State legislature, in the state House itself is
a is an enormous family. Republican and Democrats not so
(23:35):
much anymore. But but you need your friends to have
that security net around you, to be there when you fall.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And and and.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Watching a lieutenant governor last year or so, I don't
think those friends are there now and and and uh,
there are so many situations that he's confronted with now
by just guilt by association or his friends or or
his office.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
This.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Uh, you know, if something should have break, there's not
going to be anybody there to catch him.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and he deserves what he's getting because when he
got elected, you know, I told him, and people in
his orbit they said, because I said, well, now we're concerned,
like you're going to treat him the way you treat
other politicians, said I am. I said, but as long
as because he's an elected person, you no longer my friend.
He's an elected for he's the second most powerful person
in the state. And I said this, I said, as
long as he does what he's supposed to do instence
(24:29):
of holding true to his word and doesn't lie to
me or deceive me or gonna be fine. And from
almost the get go that he got in there, it
was lies, it was deceit. And you're right, Jim, the
ones I didn't like him already and now because of
the lies and the deceit on the other side didn't
like him either. He doesn't have much in his corner,
which he's gonna need.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Well in politics. I think everybody listening to this understands
that you need credibility. You need that. I'm not going
to say Street cred because I don't say that, but
you need credibility in the state House and and that
bubble that is fifteen to twenty. You know, people in
Lagrange County don't know about this yet, but they will
and and you know, the idea of politics being a
(25:13):
team sport is still there. But right now he just
doesn't have the he doesn't he had. He doesn't have
the you know, the sway of people around the state House.
And you need that. And I remember when you said,
you know, if you keep your head down and you
do everything right and you make the friends, you know,
(25:34):
Katie bar the door, you could you could be governor
in eighty years. You told him that totally.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He would.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
He would be if he had just done what he
campaigned on and kept his nose clean and his office's
nose clean, he would be in the perfect position to
primary Braun in a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But he couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's gluttony, this dude and the orbit around him. It's gluttony.
And these people could not help themselves. They're like these
people who win the lottery who have no ability to
manage money, and they're like, look at us, But it's
government and there are rules and there are regulations, and
that's what the Marion County brosk.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
If you don't like it, then don't be in the government.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Well, also, you know, Governor Braun is up for election,
and you know, some of us don't think he's going
to run. I think he will, but but he may
be looking for a replacement on the ticket with him
on somebody that's favorable with the delegates, and there are.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Several that would be all right, real quick before I
let you go the spe like, there's so much to
get to. It's all happening all at once. Jimrat is
our guest thirty years in the Indiana Senate. The special
session is happening on Monday. We talked about the State
House happenings. We'll get into it with the duel later.
It seems like the governor has put Rod Bray in
(26:49):
the leader that said, in a very bad position, basically saying, well,
I'm I gotta do this because of Trump.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I dare you to vote it down.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Does Rod Bray, who has said the votes are not there,
does he the stones to stand up to the governor
and say, I warned you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It's gonna look very bad for you it's going down.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Protems need stones, they need strength, they need a backbone.
And I've seen many now many protems that I've worked with,
and I work with Center Bray as well as Yes,
Broad Burray does have the stones. It'll pass. There will
be a special session. It'll pass the House. The Senate
(27:27):
believes in decorum, also with transparency, and they'll try to
put it through committee and on the floor.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It'll fail on the floor.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And now then we will have a crisis in the
state House next week.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
So does your believe it will fail? It will get
a vote, but it will fail.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yes, it will fail the Senate.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Okay, Bromberg. If it does fail, can Broun recover from that?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, because too is major as you failed, which is
property taxes.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He failed on that. Everybody hates him because of that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
And now he's going to try this and he's gonna
get slapped down by his own Senate if that happens.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
She just folded up.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
It just all depends on what he does next and
how he handles that. It's always the next step on handling,
you know, crisis communication and uh, well, we'll just have
to see. I can't tell you because because you know.
We we saw the failure of the property tax reform
issue Senate Bill one will royal local governments for the
(28:23):
next couple of years. We're seeing it now and and uh,
it goes back to you know, how you handle crisis
and situations, and we'll just have to see.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Boy, I hate that I have to cheer for Rod Bray,
but I do. And nothing would make me happier than
to watch that thing go down. And Rod Bray would
be a rock star if he did that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well, certainly, if you'll hate it, it's certainly going to
be something to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
That's what we need. I can't get that. I can't
get that. Lucky.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Find him on Twitter at Jim Underline Merit also Merrit
in the Morning Yes Podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Good luck with your interviews today. Thank you, it's okay
ninety three WIBC. I can't. I don't know what to
make of what you got in the mail. I don't either, That's.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why I had to bring it to your attention.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It was a flyer that I got in the mail,
actually more like a postcard, Uh huh, And it just
says are you prepared?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Am I prepared for?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Funeral planning cremation questions, bank account management, grief support.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Believe it or not, they've thought of that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I got invited to a complimentary meal and presentation about
planning my death.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah. So basically, whoever sent that to you, who thinks
your time is nearing an end? Right, and they.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Said you better. I was addressed to you or your husband,
the whole family. The whole family. Then once you're your
twenty four year old daughter to get in on this,
all of us.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
They want us to come and have this meal and
hear about I mean, I guess that is something you
do have to consider, especially if you have aging parents.
But I feel like I'm there yet, Rob, Why is
someone pushing me in this direction?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, look, you are sixty three years old.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm not. Oh even at that age, it still seems well.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Okay, So my question is, so it was actually addressed
to your family by name? Yes, because somebody owned your
high rise before you did. And I thought, well, maybe
that person was elderly and maybe they were thinking like, oh,
we got to get them in on it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But no, they had her name or resident. They didn't
really care. Who's there, just somebody Okay.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
So I was thinking about this the other day, I
was sitting there eating my Arbi's and I was thinking,
you know, I've been coming to this restaurant for twenty
five years now, and well longer than that. I was
coming there when I was a kid. I was coming
by myself for twenty five years now. I've been coming
since I was in elementary school. So thirty plus years now,
(30:49):
I remember being there as a kid, and I'm thinking, like,
thirty years from now, I may not be remember having
been here thirty years ago. Like that's where the point
I'm life like I am. I am, though youthful in
beauty and spirit. Sure, the reality is this is like
an automobile. The time is starting to you know, you're
(31:14):
on the other side, and the warranty probably doesn't cover
me anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Isn't that something though? But you're in your mind you're
still twenty something.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Oh totally. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You know, when I look in the mirror, I don't
I don't see a forty year old person. I still
see myself.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I can get down, I just can't get back up.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I just I think part of it is because I
didn't go through the normal phases of life like.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I like, you know what I'm saying like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I didn't have a child until I was in my
in my thirties or the late thirties, and I never
had a normal job, so I never like when I
was younger, I didn't get in the habit of getting
up and going to work.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, you never had a nine to five.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Uh, you've been nine.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
To new And even now I don't have a normal job, right,
Like I go in for four hours and just sit
there by myself and wants the you know, planets spin around.
But then there are times where I get hit. It's
like I'm you know, I'm forty years old, Like I'm do.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You want the card? You need it? Are you prepared?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Are you? Are you prepared?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
In my case, I'm always prepared that some politics are
gonna run me over in the parking garage.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So you're gonna be prepared.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You should be prepared. Maybe you need to go for
the compliments presentation.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Such an interesting marketing ploy like basically sending things to
people's home and saying.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hey, you're gonna go soon.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
What are these days?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You better your number's gonna get called now.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I read a thing somebody posted this, and I think
they said the greatest aging people do is that the
ages of forty four and sixty four statistically.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, I don't know if that's accurate.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
This was a health person who posted this fitness person,
so I have no reason to doubt that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I wasn't inquisitive enough to read the to read the article, but.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Well, good luck.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I had a girlfriend who told me that once you
hit fifty, it's much harder, and.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I believe I was like forty eight, like life's much harder. Yeah, yeah,
I think it was around forty eight when she told
me that. I was like, oh whatever, but she was right.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
keV, you're thirty. Have you found living is harder now
at any point? Or are you still basically like, I
can you out with me? You out till three?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean, my social circle doesn't really go out as
much as we used to because they're getting married and
having kids.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Right, so it's different for that reason.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
But I feel like I can still keep up with people.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Have you kept the same group of friends because I
always had to rotate through new friends about every two
years because they would they would move on with their life,
and I said, I'm too immature for that I'm going
to stay here and do the same stuff. So I
had to rotate through new friends, like every two years.
Do you have you kept the same batch of friends.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I guess I hang out with certain people more
and less.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That would be hard than if you had the same
group of people. You know, me, I could make friends
with the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Fly so friends when your daughter enters school, Hey, I
got enough friends, because you'll become friends with a friend's parents.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
They know who I am.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Kevin, the real question are you prepared? Would you like
the number? They have a nice QR code you can scan.
You know, it's probably not a bad thing to think about.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you never know when you're gonna
get you know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Well for him, he probably won't have social Security, so
things could be harder for you.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Well, that's right, Key, you better prepare sooner.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You are going to be a maker and Casey is
going to be a taker, and I'll probably be somewhere
in the middle. So so, hey, grandma or glad you're
still with us.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
By the way, you're very well preserved.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Thank you. I'm glad I'm still with you too.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Most people will not look at you and think you're
seventy six years old when you're doing a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I look age a little bit like a whole one day?
Does it equal a year?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Here?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Isn't it weird how some people you look at them
and you just like you would have no idea what
their actual age is on both in of the spectrum,
Like some people you look at them and you think, oh,
you know they're twenty, they're twenty five, and you know
they're thirty five or forty. And then some people you
look at them and you're like, there's some girl I
went to high school with in elementary school and I
looked at her and I was like, is that her mom?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Like how old is this woman age?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
And I was like, oh, she's forty like me, she
looks sixty five years old.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well you are evergreen. Rob Kendall, thank you. It is
The Kendall and Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sup
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!