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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
There's so much about this Mark Sanchez story that fascinates
me beyond belief. Remember, out like every weekend, our promo
is the same.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have no idea we're going to talk about Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're counting on the politicians to do something stupid. Well,
this time it wasn't a politician. It's a sports star.
And I have questions, I have thoughts, But the most
interesting thing to me, casey, and then I will let
you come swooping in with whatever hot take you have

(00:36):
on this is the amount of people. Okay, First of all,
never delete a tweet unless it's for grammar or spelling,
like I'll do this. Sometimes I'll post something and go, oh,
I've misspelled that. I'm not letting the grammar police people
get me, pull it down, make the change, put it
back up. But I'm not deleting the thought. It's not
like I'm embarrassed or whatever. So to the Governor and

(00:58):
Lieutenant governor, stop deleting tweets. You look like idiots, and
you look like you're giving in on whatever the thing is.
Worst case, leave it up, retweet it, explain it whatever.
But you look like gutless cowards when you become delete
tweet guy.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
The most fascinating thing about the whole weekend for me
is these people who are so bizarrely vested in trying
to convince everyone that Indianapolis is a safe place to be,
that they were taking some sort of victory lap that
Mark Sanchez allegedly was the aggressor rather than the person

(01:40):
being aggressed against.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
And it's like, what a weird, bizarre flex that.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is some sort of vindication to you in your
mental gymnastic mind that somehow this first because it was
Mark Santez allegedly rather than the other guy, that Indianapolis
that will become some sort of safe place to live.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So in regards to Governor Brown's tweet, it was great
up until the very last line. He said, I've been
clear city leaders must do their jobs and hold criminals accountable.
Right on, when Indianapolis headlines national news for a lack
of public safety, it hurts our city and our state.
Right on, Hoosiers deserve better. Correct, Everything was great, and
then he said, praying for a full recovery from Mark Sanchez.

(02:23):
It was just to jump the gun just a little
bit on that part of it. But to your point,
he could have come out and said thoughts and prayers
for the victim as well, and it would have been fine.
Now you've got Ryan Mehres coming out and he's talking,
and now we've got a feud going on between the
governor and Rick Snyder from the FOP and the Marion

(02:45):
County Prosecutor's office, and everybody's saying, oh, now you've got
Ryan Mehers talking, right, because it wasn't the prosecutor's office
that made a mistake, it wasn't the IMPD that made
a mistake. It was something else. And now he's talking
because this is a national story and he's got to
get his face out there now.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, and you gave him a win by leading the tweet.
All you had.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
What I had to do is retweet the thing and say, hey, Sanchez,
the aggressor Indianapolis is still super violent. This guy allegedly
was super violent. And it doesn't matter whether it's a
celebrity or whatever. We just keep seeing one headline after
another about violence in the city of Indianapol.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
When you woke up Saturday morning and you saw the
headline about somebody being stabbed downtown, you thought well, yeah, okay,
that's on par You weren't surprised by that at all.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, And it's like the people who are flexing on
go CCCCC. Well, it's no different than when the judges
what this been. Were you here when the judges thing
happened when the judges were outside the strip club?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Was that before you? Okay, so this has been several
years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
There were these judges who are in town for some
sort of conference. Allegedly they had been having a little
bit of fun, like Indiana judges. There's a judge's conference
or whatever, and very early in the morning, they're outside
a local dancing establishment and they get lippy with some person.

(04:17):
I'm trying to do this all from memory now it's
been several years ago. And then some physical altercation takes
place and people are injured, and you know, the response
on that, of course, was well, Indianapolis is super violent,
which it is, no doubt, blah blah blah. But then
you realize, hey, everybody was kind of an a hole
in the situation. It seemed like, and I'm trying to

(04:38):
remember the news reports off the top of my head,
and some bad stuff happened, but the point is it
was a black eye, another high profile act of violence
happening in the city of Indianapolis, which further feeds the
narrative right.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And so.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I just found that the most fascinating thing that there
were people who were vehemently trying to I do like
some sort of victory lap or the fact that it
was allegedly Sanchez being the aggressor rather than this guy
who appears to have gotten just the victim of some
guy being totally out of control. It's like, no, it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who the aggressor was. It's

(05:16):
another time Indianapolis is making the news over a high
profile act of violence. And whether it was Sanchez or
the other guy or the man in the moon, Indianapolis
is a hyper dangerous place and like a lot of
the people, the WIBC, the conservative media guys are afraid
to go out.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's like, no, I used to come downtown all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I can vividly remember ten years ago walking at three
in the morning from a mass av back to downtown
and not thinking a thing about it.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
You wouldn't do that today. Never.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Like I am out of here by ten thirty.
On the rare occasion I come down in the evening,
I'm out of here by ten thirty. Why, because nothing
good happens in this city. You can't even say after
midnight happens or midnight a lot of the time now.
So I'm not some guy who's like, oh, I'm so
afraid of Indianapolis. No, I just know the reality of it.
But I know what the city wants was. I know

(06:10):
it's a place that used to enjoy coming. It was
a place that, under Ballard as mayor, used to be
a relatively safe place to go, especially if you behaved
in a certain shape, form or fashion and knew where
to walk and not walk, and it was all fine.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
You'd never do that now.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So for the people are trying to do some victory
lap because it was Mark Sanchez allegedly being the aggressor
rather than this this guy who appears to be the victim. No,
nothing's changed. This place is still a cesspool of awful.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah. I live downtown in Indianapolis, and I don't go
out after eight pm when the sun goes down. I
don't go out because I just I don't feel safe.
And there have been times where I wanted to run
up to the gas station, maybe buy a candy bar,
and the dude won't let me go by myself. Nope,
I'm going with you or go for me, because we

(07:02):
are so used to the stories of the crime in
this city. Now, how about Governor Braun clapping back to
Ryan Meres saying, if one deleted tweet finally gets Ryan
Mears to start paying attention to the violent crime epidemic
in our capital city, putting violent criminals behind bars and
keeping Indianapolis safe, then I will start deleting more tweets.
He's saying that the deleted tweet got the attention of

(07:25):
Ryan Meres and if that's all, he'll do that more often.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you look like a Braun looks like a total whimp.
And his little assistant, Micah, also did the same thing.
Who said same, Yeah, that's Micah's response after he deleted
a tweet. Same what a tough guy price. By the way,
can someone explain to me from the Lieutenant Governor's office? Anyone,
Caitlin Graham, any of you people send me you know

(07:49):
how to get ahold of me?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Rob at WIBC dot com.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can any of you people or the new guy they've
hired as the communications director, whoever any of you people,
why the Lieutenant governor refuses to comment on the IED audit?
Can someone from that office explain to me we are
on what day five to six? Why the Lieutenant governor
who literally ran I heard him give the speeches I
heard him in the debate about what a rotten, terrible,

(08:13):
underhanded organization the IEDC is. And then there's an audit
that proves exactly what he said.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And now he's quiet, This guy who can't.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Sprint to the nearest camera fast the one time he
was actually right about something.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Who is he afraid of?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Is he getting his marching orders from the governor right
he has to?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
At this point, he's clearly very afraid of doing anything
that's going to piss brought up, which also leads us
to the interesting thing that Mica and his people know
the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating their office allegedly
for a variety of things. But we know at least
one thing they're investigating because it's been confirmed, and that
moron or whoever is in charge of his social media

(08:53):
is getting mouthy with the Marion County Prosecutor, who holds
your fate and future in his hands. But because they
have the political sense of a NAT, they're getting mouthy
with the guy who's going to decide what happens to
your office. What a brilliant maneuver by those people over there.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Can we talk about who the big winner was over
the weekend in regards to this story. If you want
to say there was a winner, it was Angela Ganotte
who was reporting on this right away, and she took
a lot of heat for just reporting the facts, putting
out the police report. She was like, just wait until
the whole story comes out, and then it finally did,

(09:30):
and she was right all along.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what do we just want to, like, hyprob before
we go to break. Let it know where we're at
on this. So he has he being Mark Sanchez has
posted bond?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes? The New York Post is reporting that he was
discharged from the hospital and he has reportedly posted a
three hundred dollars cash bond before being formally booked.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, So if he was going to do an act
of violence, he's come to the right place. He's done
it in the right city, because we don't take violence
serious here in the city of Indianapolis. Are they all
still misdemeanor charges because the like Max Lewis and some
other people posted photos of the victim or the alleged victim.
How is that they're all missed a meaning? How is

(10:17):
that possible?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, it looks like it should be more than that,
doesn't it because those pictures.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Were off Holy smokes?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, feel feel awful for him. He apparently, it seems,
was just trying to do his job and didn't hear
Mark Sanchez at first because he didn't have his hearing
aids in. And why was Mark Sanchez in an alley? Well,
what's he doing back there?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
These are things they're gonna come that are to come
very very quickly.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I think a lot of this stuff's gonna start to
come out because none of it makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Look, when he was discharged from the hospital yesterday morning,
he was immediately taken to the Marion County Jail for
central book.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right, so it's I think Sanchez's court appearance is tomorrow, correct,
Like tomorrow morning?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Is his quarter prints? All right?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
We got a bunch of others, So we'll get to
this throughout the course of the day to day. There's
a variety of areas to go with this Mark Sanchez story.
But we got a whole bunch of other things to
get to. We got we got great news this morning.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Casey, Yeah, you want to get to that coming up?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, yeah, we'll wait till nine thirty on that because
I want to give it the pro the proper and
appropriate amount of time to discuss the great news that
we got this morning.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
What would you like to do when.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
We come back, Well, you had mentioned that the Lieutenant
Governor hasn't said anything about the ie ed c audit,
but there have been some other people who have said
some great stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Wonderful.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
We'll talk about that coming up. It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
So the politics, the Republican politicians are clearly going to
try to just ignore the findings of the IEDC audiit it.
But we're not letting the story go away. I mean,
it will eventually just fade away because well it's just
going to be us at some point talking about this.
But it is fascinating to me that we are what
were we five six days since the findings came out

(12:15):
on the audit of the Indian Economic Development Corporation, and
the results show what we have said for years on
this program, which is that it is a wholly corrupt,
unethical organization, shadow government entity that was DISI that as

(12:39):
I mean, you have to view it as as is
designed in the modern sense of what it has been,
certainly under Holcombe, and to some extent it was becoming.
This underpins it is just a glorified money laundering operation
in which money is taken from you, regular people hearing
our voice right now, and then through this shadow quasi
government entity which they deliberately made it very hard to

(13:01):
track where the money was going ended up in the
hands of or being directed to organizations that benefited in
many cases people doing the directing of the monies.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I know you saw the one tweet from Indie Reporter
over the weekend where they posted a screenshot of a
donor name not released. They gave a donation of twenty
five hundred dollars, but then the outflow from the IEDC was.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
A million dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, no name, no name, but that's one heck of
a return on investment.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
And by the way, if you want to, Indie Reporter
has done probably the most deep dive on this, So
if you're curious about like specific things, go follow and
support the the Indie Reporter account on Twitter. It's at
Indie Underscore reporter underscore because he's Stephen and the people
that have done a great job. I've seen I think one,

(13:51):
maybe two members of the General Assembly say anything about this.
I mean, we're talking billions of dollars. Now, this audit
was twenty to twenty four, so hundreds of millions of
dollars involved in this audit. But you're talking billions of
dollars over the life of the IEDC. It's when you
when you actually read the report and you they reveal,

(14:12):
like what thirty conflicts of interest. It is one of
the should be one of the biggest stories ever in
our state government on how they abused the system was abused,
Our money has been abused. And the biggest thing is
you don't have any idea what the return on investment
is for about any of this.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
For any of it, right, but that one was pretty good.
An undisclosed name gives twenty five hundred dollars and in
return gets an outflow of a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
So the report reveals massive conflicts of interest. Money taken
from us paying for travel for elected and appointed officials
and their spouses, no clear positive return on investment for
us as taxpayers on much of any of this.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
We know that the money, much.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Of it went to people who are uber connected into
state government. And the only Republican that I've seen issue
really any sort of statement, now if there have been
other people direct him to me, I've tried to follow
this the best you can. Obviously can't follow all hundred
plus Republicans in the Indiana General Assembly. But Jake the guy,
this is the guy that incessantly called the hotline.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
That one time.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I remember that, Jake Tesla Teshka Teshka.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So he's a state rep.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
He got mad at us one time, and instead of
just like operating like a person in decent society and
just saying, hey, I'd like to refute what you're saying,
may I come on your program, he just believed he
had some right to be on and started blowing up.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Kevin, were you here when that happened? Were you the
person that had to deal with this?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think I remember a fielding phone call. Yes, he
just kept calling.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It is like, sir, stop being It was just short
of I will not be ignored.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
This was very odd behavior from this guy anyway, here's
what he had to say about it.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
So this guy's a state rep.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Keep in mind, hundreds of millions of dollars is what
we're talking about here. Here's what he said. The audit's
findings are deeply troubling. At the very least, the appearance
of impropriety here is enough to give pause. I look
forward to working with Governor Braun, and this is the
best part to tighten up internal process and ensure additional oversight.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's what the that's what he wants. Yeah, we're gonna
we gotta tighten some things up around.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We're gonna tighten it up. While the Senate majority Leaver
leader Rod Bray, he said the legislature would review the
report and determine the next steps.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
We're gonna tighten up some internal processes.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hey, hundreds of millions of dollars out the door, No
clear tight positive use of much of any of it,
No no clear benefit whatsoever to the hardworking people who
we took it from. But we're gonna we're gonna not
dissolve the thing, not blow it up, not light it
on fire, not expose it, not do everything at our
power to hold people accountable.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Who are part of the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
No, we gotta we gotta tighten up some internal processes, Casey,
to tighten up some internal processes.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
And then tighten it up. So Representative at Delaney and
uh Fatty Cadora, both Democrats, they said that they want
some legislative hearings. They want a deeper investigation and possible
criminal inquiry by the Attorney General. Cadora said that the
audit revealed a culture filled with conflict of interest and
that some officials were double dipping salaries.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm sure Todd Roket is going to get right on that.
I'm sure he's going to really mister lawed order. I'm
sure he's going to be all over that.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
All right, we had some great news this morning, Casey,
and I can't wait to share it with our audience.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
All right, that's coming up next. It's Kendall and Casey
on ninety three w IBC.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Dirty Day, Go Oh, Dirty Day, Go oh dirty go
oh dirty d Elsey.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Did you know that, according to the Republican Party bylaws,
you can make a song about a politician called dirty
Diego and be in good standing. But if then you
take that song and say, hey, that song's right by
that guy who made it, who's in good standing. He's
really dirty. You should spport someone else, then you're not
in good standing.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
You're not a good standing Hey, Kevi.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
If you could cue this up here, I wanted to
give this the proper intro it deserves, because well, not
just us on this program, our listeners, but really all
of humanity here in the Indiana, in the great great
state of Indiana, got some got some good news this morning.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Poor lot of beautiful man. Yes, poor lot of beautiful day.
Oh God, a beautiful everything.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Great news for all of us. As we've been telling
you for months, was going to happen on this program.
It's now official. Bo Bye, the son of Evan By
has announced via an article in The Indie Star by
friend of the show James Briggs, that he is going
to run yes or secretary of State.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
He is. We kind of had a feeling this was coming.
There was some speculation about what he was going to
run for and when he would announce it, and there
it is secretary of State. So he is a seventh
generation Hoosier, former captain in the US Marine Corps, Harvard
grad and an attorney twenty nine years old.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, so this is fascinating on writing levels. One look
Diego Morales, the current Indiana Secretary of State. Whether it's
the sweetheart jobs to family members, whether it's no bid
contracts to mega donors, whether it's disappearing to a foreign
country for ten days and refusing to say who paid
for it, and then when you get called out on it,

(19:52):
shouting at people at Lincolnate.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Nott pay for India hoppey.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Diego Morales is a dirty, dirty, rotten on ethical, corrupt individual.
And any person, regardless of your party affiliation, who considers
himself a part of decent society should want him nowhere
near that office because of the personal information. Whether you're
a business owner, a voter in the state, this is

(20:16):
the last guy that you should want being in that position.
And the Democrats, probably by sheer luck, finally, at least
on the surface, have nominated someone that has now he
could turn out to be a total turn of a
candidate or.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
The arch Manning. I told you that this word I
say case.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Remember when I was the only person that was like,
what if arch Manning isn't really any good? Everyone's like,
oh gosh, what if Bobai actually sucks as a candidate,
But the point is at least in terms of name
and pedigree and ability to raise money. Look, Diego may
not want to tell anybody who paid for that trip
to India, but the buys they've got them, they'll have
the money to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
They'll find out. And that's the point there. Even if
Bobai is not a great candidate, his father is not
going to allow him to fail. By says he's going
to call it corruption, wasteful spending, and government abuse. He
opposes excessive taxes. He wants to ensure secure and fair
elections and also support new businesses. But he said, I'm
running to be our secretary of State to fix a

(21:17):
corrupt office and take on a broken political system that
doesn't service. So he's saying, right there, Bobi gets in
that office, he's going to open up all the files
and see what's inside.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, that's why every person should have a vested interest. Look,
and I know David Shelton, who we like, is challenging
Diego at the convention. I think that's going to be
a pretty tough road for Shelton to win.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Hope he does.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Any person that can defeat Diego at any level, we
will all be better served. But the reality is you're
likely looking at this corrupt piece of garbage, Diego Morales,
who is propped up, supported and aided and abetted by
the Republican Party. You cannot separate Diego from the Indiana
Republican Party because whether it's Braun or Micah or Rokeeda

(22:05):
or even the you know ones were kind of fond
of people like Daniel Elliott, they all know what he is.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Every person in.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
That building knows what Diego is, and they all won't
do a damn thing about it. So you can't separate
Diego from the Republican Party. Einhorn and Finkel, Finkel and Einhorn,
they are the same. And if Bobi gets in there,
the one thing we should all be cheering for is
he'll get access to all the information, all the emails,

(22:32):
the servers. He will be able to open up and
show everybody how this cabal that currently runs the state
of Indiana how it operates. And you sign me up
for that casey every day of the week, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
So bo Bay said. The office has been used to
cut backdoor deals, our tax dollars, funding perks for politicians
and insiders. In the case of.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Diego a lot of travel.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
He was the biggest spender of travel, as we discussed
that last week. So it's out a field so far.
Who knew the secretary of State was such a popular position.
You've got Dave Shelton who is running. You've got Diego
Morales who is running. You also have a Blithe Potter.
She is a woman from I believe northwest Indiana who

(23:15):
is running on the Democrat side. She is going to
challenge Diego Morales as well. You also have Jamie Rittenauer
who says that she is running. So a lot of
money will be spent to win this office, or in
some cases maybe not a lot of money because they
don't have it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, what's interesting about the Republican side, It's just a
glorified fundraising operation now, unless they've changed it here in
the past weeks or whatever, the Republican Party forces these
statewide candidates to pay a percentage of what the office pays,
and I think it's ten percent or it was ten percent.
That's how they keep the undesirables out of the out

(23:55):
of the delio. So if the office whatever secretary of
State pays now it's making up a number here they
get him huge raised. So I don't know what the
let's say it's one hundred ninety thousand dollars you've got
to come up with as a candidate, like nineteen grand
just to be able to run at the convention, to
file right, to be able to file. So case you know,
I remember I told you last week. I said, I've

(24:15):
been feeling a little a little downhearted lately, been feeling
a little downtrodden, a little sad about, like feeling like
we're not making a difference, and you know, we're doing
all this stuff and nothing ever changes. And then I
told you, you know, I had this conversation with my
old man and he said, look, he said, in my
job and his job was to put criminals back behind bars.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
He said, I would get that.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Way, he said, And then and then something happened, something
would hit right, and you would that would that would
give you the strength you need to trudge forward.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, Casey, this is it.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
This is going to be what I need the strength
necessary to trudch for it because I did a little math.
Yeah the little math. Wasn't great at math in high school,
but I did I did pull out my handied andy
cellular telephone and best as I can see. Diego Morales
beat Destiny Wells in twenty twenty two by about two
hundred and fifty thousand votes. Now, it's hard to imagine

(25:11):
a worse candidate than Destiny Wells, so I think that's
the low baseline of the most Diego could have won
by was about two hundred and fifty thousand votes. So
that means simple. Matt tells us that if one hundred
and twenty five thousand people switch their vote, like if
one hundred and twenty five thousand people say I'm going
from this guy to this guy, then that person would

(25:32):
be the winner, and so over the next year.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
My goal in life, the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
That will give me meaning and drive and a reason
to get up every morning, is to cost Diego Morales.
To find a way to use this well. Some people
say nobody listens, but some people say we're the most
powerful media entity in the state. Wherever we are, all
points in between, nobody listens are the most powerful, whatever
little power we may have the next year, because we're

(26:01):
basically a year from the election, to spend the next
year finding a way to cost Diego Morales in the
Indiana Republican Party one hundred and twenty five thousand votes.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That is what will give me, meaning casey, there you go.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So bo Bye said, Morales is protecting a pretty good
thing for himself and his buddies at taxpayers expense, And
I want.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
To be there.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know if you actually open an email server.
I don't know if you like pull a door and
you open it up. All I want, though, is if
we find a way to keep Diego Morales from being
Secretary of State, I want to.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Be there that day that email server is open.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Do you think bo Bye will find out who paid
for India? Well, I'm he's got a pretty good shot
at it.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Right I'm guessing someone connected to him probably has already
started looking looking into that. But look, this is great.
It's going to be great for transparency. It's going to
be great to give the public an option. It's great
that the Democrats, finally, at least on paper, are are
are putting forth people that aren't complete unacceptable weirdos. Who

(27:03):
are I mean the article that Briggs did with this announcement. Look,
the kids pretty seasoned already right now. I was elected
at twenty seven, So this doesn't impress me the way
it might other people, right, because I had already done this.
But he was very adamant about talking, trying to put
people's minds that he's like. He said, look, voter IDs

(27:25):
are settled law. You're never gonna hear me as Secretary
of State challenge it or take it on or whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
It's accepted law.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
And that's gonna be the real thing he's gonna have
to do early on is present himself as an acceptable alternative.
And he's gonna have to tell the people in his
party to cut the crap. He's gonna have to tell
you this. The on demand abortion people put him in
a corner. The men playing women's sports people put them
in a corner. The chop little kids being able to
chop off their penises group put them in a corner.

(27:52):
He's going to have to overcome that group because so
many people would say, well, yeah, Diego's totally corrupt and
unethical andlah blah blah. But boy can't risk hevin that
group of people in charge of anything. That's going to
be the major challenge for Boba.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think he's also going to have to handle the
objection about his residents living in India.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Look, I don't care if the guy lives in Zimbabwe.
If he's going to open up the servers and show
her by how corrupt the Republicans are, sign me up, Casey.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
His dad said that this is a new generation of
leadership and they would be focused on unity, progress and
common sense. You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is
ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So I read this article over.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
The weekend and it's fascinating to me, Casey, about how
the science community, for lack of a better term, has
now come completely full circle and many of the world's
leading scientists are now saying what most of us have
known our entire lives, which is, yeah, there's definitely a God,
and that's the only logical conclusion.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
So it's the articles called does God exist? Modern science
shows he must? Bestseller argues. So this is based on
a book by some scientists who got together who tried
to answer the question.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And one of these scientists, Fastening. Fasting read one of
these scientists early in life was an atheist who was
then convinced purely from a scientific perspective, right. And one
of the things that these science this article lays out
is that if you by the way, I think it

(29:36):
was what. The Times had had an article on this.
The Daily Mail had an article about this about these
scientists in this book they've got out he is every
theory they come back to, you come back to. Yeah,
but that couldn't have happened from nothing. Like every time
they pushed science to a new theory, and many of
them have been debunked, like the stretching and shrinking theory
and all. You know, all of these scientific theories and

(29:57):
then get sort of etched in stone and then later
get to disproved. The one thing science can't get around
is something, even the smallest of things, can't come from nothing.
Something had to start the thing.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
They said, the question of God's existence is now forcibly
back on the table through science, not faith or theology.
It's almost like they keep trying to disprove it and
then they can't. They run into a wall.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, look at it's a.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Pretty I've always thought it to be a pretty empty
existence to think, go through your life thinking all of
this just accidentally happen, right, like, just how could all
of this so perfectly? And you know what it was
really reinforced to me. You know I was a believer,
but when my daughter was the process of my daughter

(30:46):
being born, like from conception through birth, and the one
thing I was sitting there in the hospital think about
is how does the baby know to come out?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
How do they know? Right?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
And in a weird way, I think God taps the
baby the shoulder says, hey it you know.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's time, right?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
And so you think about all of these things that
just in order for them to all work perfectly and
come together perfectly and to have not just human life,
but all of these things around us, you think it
came from some.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Just just boom or bang or what. I don't know.
That's a that's a heck of a stretch.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
And I have long thought that the people who are
so desperate to prove it's almost like we talked about
to begin in the show. These people so desperately want
you to believe Indianapolis is safe that they'll take anything
to stretch and mental pretzel themselves to try to prove
that point, including well, the governor made a stupid tweet,
see everything's really great here. It's sort of the same
thing here that these mental pretzels in this article does

(31:44):
a great job of laying.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
It out that that.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Like every time we try to mental science tries to
mental pretzel itself to make some theory on how this
could have happened. Then sometimes it takes years, but years
later gets disproved. The most what's the Okham's razor thing?
The most logical answer is usually the one that's right,
and the most logical answer is that there is something
greater than ourselves out there.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah. So this book covers some major scientific theories and
fields like the Big Bang, relativity, quantum mechanics, and also DNA.
And you know, they argue that this is not a
religious book, but it's a scientific critique of materialism.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And you see more and more.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I mean, we've laid these articles that I try to
whenever whenever they come out, because they just think they're
fascinating about these you know, science based individuals who their
whole thing is they don't want it to be They
want there to be some logical I can hold it
in my.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Hand, some scientific proof, right.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
And they can't find it.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
And then they some of these people are bold enough
to finally just say, hey, I throw in the towel.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
We can't do this.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And we've been at this for so long that the
most logical from a purely scientific standpoint, the most logical
answer is that there is a higher being, There is
a higher power, and we are all blessed to have
this in front of us and to be able to
be on this earth and be a part of this
magnificent creation.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
So another question was asked over the weekend. Is Indiana's
business climate losing traction? Oh, we'll take a deep dive
into that coming up. It is ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
What soords, here's me, how do
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