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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Casey. I hate to say this, what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
But I think our Secretary of State here in the
state of Indiana may be suffering from a serious illness.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is it the illness of wanna be because he wants
to be Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, I was looking on the internet and look, you know,
the the AI diagnosis thing is all the all the
rage these days. Consult the trained medical.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Professional life in his symptoms.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't pretend who was a great television doctor who
is one of our old doctor Noah Drake. I don't
in any semblants pretend to be Kev's laughing because of
course that was the character played by Rick Springfield on
the Days of Our Lives Doctor Noah Drake. I don't
in any semblants pretend to be a trained medical professional.
(00:44):
But I do believe after putting the symptoms and the
behavior of Diego Morales into the artificial intelligence, he suffers
from what is known as big fat phone of phobia.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is that technical? I thought it was wanna be?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Big Big fat phonophobia is where you, you know, you
profess to be a real tough guy, a real billy badass,
you know, and like a motor vehicle advisory Board meeting,
and then somebody says, well, okay, tough guy, why don't
you come in here and say it to our face?
And then you just he says, no, thank you, So
we'll fill you in because you made a very generous
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offer to the Secretary of State, very gracious. Yeah, after
he called us the fake news, the fake WIBC is
what he called us, I think, in fact, and then
Tony did as well, very friendly, said please let us
know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Come on in, tell us about your accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
He responded to the both of us. And he's such
a tough well, he has people be a tough guy
for him. He's such a tough guy at the Motor
Vehicle Advisory Board meeting, his spokesperson, such a tough guy
behind the keyboard. But you know, when it comes to
in person, as I found out, Remember remember the little
little conversation we had at the Clay County Lincoln Day,
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arms flailing, the dry mouth, uh.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know, sweating a little beat of sweat on his brow.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I do think, and I'm very concerned, and I would
highly advise that Diego consult a trained medical professional, because
I do believe he is suffering from big fat phonophobia.
And so we'll get to that coming up a little
bit later. But you have other breaking news we need
to get to.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, I don't know if it's breaking. It happened over
the weekend. Dan Bongino put out that tweet and he
stated that he was never gonna be the same after
discovering what he has discovered public corruption and political weaponization.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Can I just can I just read the tweet like
this is so look I am at this point like,
just shut up and tell us what it is. Yeah,
I am so sick of the new big thing. The
next thing it's gonna be monumental. It's gonna rock you
to your core. It's like they're gearing you up for
a Rolling Stones concert or a pro wrestling match.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We'll give you the whole seat, but you only need
the edge.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But then nothing ever happens with these people. No one
ever gets arrested, no one ever goes down. There's never
a any other you know, big reveal, Like listen to this, uh,
during my tenure, this is Dan Bongina. What is he?
He's the assistant FBI director, deputy director. During my tenure
here as the deputy director of the FBI. I have
(03:15):
repeatedly relate to you that things are happening that might
not be immediately visible, but they are happening.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They are happening like this is the case. Is this
They're doing their due diligence, their research, They're building the case.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is this not a setup for some sort of super
sci fi movie or horror movie. That's I mean, it
might not be immediately visible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You don't know what's going on right now, but trust us.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's like you could hear the guy some door creaking,
some haunted house, some view from the inside. Yes, the
director and I are committed. He doesn't call him just
Cash Hotel the director like Cash Ftel, that's his name.
The Director and I are committed to stamping out public
corruption and the political weaponanizationable law enforcement and intelligence operations.
(04:04):
It is a priority for both of us. But what
I've learned in the course of our properly predicated and
necessary investigations into these aforementioned matters has shocked me down
to my core. Yeah, we cannot run a republic like this.
I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Wow, what a tease? What have you learned?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Remember in remember in What's the Mood Dumb and Dumber,
where Jeff Daniels lights his leg on fire at the
gas station and the woman who we find out she's
the FBI agent. Later she's like trying to give him
her number and she can't get the number right, and
at one point he just sounds he just says something
to the effect of like, for the love of God,
just give me the damn number that is us at
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this point with these people, just tell us what it is.
I'm so sick of the tease. I'm so sick of
it's coming. I'm so sick of it's gonna rock eater.
I don't believe a word any of you people say anymore,
because there's never any receipts, there's never any delivery.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, they are conducting righteous and proper investigations by the
book and in accordance with the law.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We don't even know what it's about. Is this Epstein?
Is there some shadow government that you found? Have we
found the Obama's shadow government? Have we found the cabal?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, wouldn't it be something if they were all tied together.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You know what they're doing, They're doing what they train
us to do in this business. Which is you always
tease to the next segments, keep them hanging around you going,
except they are not playing for ratings points. Their bonus
check doesn't depend on a rating point. They're just government
people who should be wholly invested in telling the people
what is it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He leaves. He gives himself an out though, after telling
you that this rocked him to his core. Yeah, right,
I cannot predict where it will land. This is some
crazy wight off.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh there's more ack me to my core.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You're right, I don't know where it's gonna land.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I don't notice. Can I read the rest of this
if you want. I didn't even notice there.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Was Donald try Donald Trump voice. I have to point
it out, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And we told you we had to. Did we ever
find hate or creepy like music? Because remember we had
to stop doing that because YouTube got angry at us
that we were playing whatever, even though we're I don't
I don't know why we were talking over it. We
thought we'd crack that code, but YouTube was being YouTube
has been like, uh diegle browse. They got big mad
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at us. Okay, we are going to conduct these righteous
and proper investigations by the book, and in accordance with
the law, we are going to get the answers in
all caps we all deserve. As with any investigation, I
cannot protect where land, but I can promise you an
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honest and dignified effort at truth. Not my truth or
your truth, but the truth. God bless America and all
those who defend her respectfully. Dan nothing, it's just the
respectfully at the end that really ties it all together.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's how I sign off on any of my emails. Respectfully.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, So but again, what is this Epstein? If so,
just tell us we don't. We don't. I think we've
investigated it. Y'all charged him whatever he had for the charging,
that'll be probably sufficient. Here's what we had the lady
Maxwell watch and know. We'll get into her later. Is
that what this is related to? Like?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Can you or is it? Regarding the allegations from the
Director of National Intelligence Toulsey Gabber claiming that the Obama
officials engaged in treasonous conspiracy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Know, but I have reached my limit with these people
always acting like remember when they sent the influencers out
with the binders. I have reached my limit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is this just another Binder esque yes thing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
These people live not doing anything, and I think they
think as long as they're giving you the perception that
they're looking into something, maybe you won't notice that they're
not actually doing anything.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why would Dan Bongino fabricate anything, though? I mean, consider this,
This guy gave up the broadcaster. Well, so he knows
the artes right, but he did give up a career
doing that to go be in the FBI. So he's
got he's got. He can't go back to broadcasting if
he doesn't produce.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, So see this is a learning. This is why
when everybody's like you should run for governor, I'm like, no,
because government, to steal a line from Judge Smails and Caddyshack,
it'sissa sucks. And especially he's not even the decision maker.
He's beholden to multiple other people. He can't pass gas
without Trump's permission. So how miserable would that existence be
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for that guy? Will you know? Just wants to flap
his gums at any turn.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, here's something to consider. People who are wondering, Okay,
is this about the Jeffrey Epstein case or is this
about what Tulsea Gabbard has come out and said about
the Obama era, maybe it's both. Maybe they're all tied together,
and that is what has rocked him to his core.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, I know this isn't on the template, but can
we review that fabulous bombshell interview that we did with
Doug Carter, former state Police superintendent on Friday, because we
didn't get a chance to kind of talk about that,
and look, I just think and the response over the
weekend to this about the allegations that there's this Dubois
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County sheriff who was involved in this misuse of money
and this guy is super close to Braun and they
had an eighty page probable cause Affidavid with that naving
the state police, and then as soon as Braun became
the governor and appoints a new state police superintendent, all
went away. Like I feel like we've got to comment.
I mean, now that the interview has in news media
outlets around the state are starting to pick this up,
and you know, what did Braun know? And when can
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we get to that?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
When we come back, it is Kendall and Casey. It's
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Okay, so we got to revisit the this interview we
did with former State Police Superintendent Doug Carter on Friday. Now,
a little behind the scenes stuff. We normally when we
do a big interview, and that one was a big interview,
and we'll talk about here in a second. Normally, like
the next segment will kind of do a deep dive.
But you had just decided that was just too much
(10:19):
for me. I gotta do all happy stuff the final
hour of Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Or you could say that you walked out of the studio, disappeared,
and did not return in time.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
There was nothing we're gonna get to in one minute.
We had one minute, so I'm talking like the next hour.
We could have spent the next hour talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We could have.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm not blaming you.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was a pretty big, heavy story and it was Friday,
and I said, you know what, let's lighten things up.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So if you missed it, you're the voice of reason
on this program. You know, I think all these people
are rotten, so I'm predisposed to think everybody's rotten. Yeah,
you're the voice of reason. That felt like a really
big interview, and that felt like a really big story.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It did it did? It felt like he was really.
I mean you could even tell him physically. After we
were done, he leaned back in his chair and yeah,
he took a big, deep breath like he wanted to
get that off his chest.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So if you missed Friday's show, wait until noon. We
don't care what you do afternoon, but keep it right
here until noon and then afternoon. I always loved when
I said that. Kevin, our producer just nods. I don't
know if he's doing that subconsciously or not. Yeah, Kevin's
a good man. I'm here for it. Thank you, Kevin.
Former State Police Superintendent Doug Carter joined us for the
(11:30):
ten o'clock hour on Friday, hour two of our program,
and we talked at length about an investigation that he
helped launch and oversee when he was still the state
Police superintendent last year into a guy by the name
of Tom Kleinhelter, who is the sheriff of Dubois County
now whose home county is du Bois County, Casey, Oh,
(11:51):
that would be the governor, that would be the governor
ron and these allegations that I believe they said that
there was an eighty page the numbers did out to
me was eighty page probably cause affidavit ye, involving this
Tom klin Helter, who, by the way, it's irrefutable, like
the endorsed Braun, there was a big thing. I mean,
those guys, it appears, are pretty close politically. And in
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this eighty page probably cause Affidavid, the state Police laid
out a respected state police officer was putting charged the investigation,
by the name of Jeff Heron, that this Tom klein
Helter allegedly misused commissary money involving trips including taking his
wife to other states, foreign countries, et cetera. And Doug
Carter's state Police superintendent, and Jeff Heron, this respected investigator
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for state Police, felt like this was a pretty open
and shutcase that this took place, and a special prosecutor
was brought in. They believed the sopecial prosecutor was on board.
And then all of a sudden at the end of
the year, Carter leaves as state superintendent, bron brings in
a new superintendent, and Braun becomes governor, and all of
a sudden, this case on klin Helter just disappears. And
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not only that, but then Heron, the guy who was
investigating the case ends up getting some sort of punishment,
and Carter was with us on Friday, going, this doesn't
make any sense. There's no reason that I can see
this would have been happening, knowing what I know about
this case, and it feels like something that every media outlet,
not only in this city but in this state should
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be demanding answers from not only Braun but also the
state police superintendent. What happened in this month month and
a half window from when Braun becomes governor, you become
state Police superintendent, and then the public announcement that there's
no charges being filed on this guy. Everybody should be
demanding answers to this because it doesn't feel right. Casey well, and.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It started with the State Board of Accounts. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's just such a good point, which is misspartisan, right.
And I thought Doug Carter did a great job of
laying out and that's one of the things I wanted
him to do, was not just talking about this case,
but hey, how do state police invent to gate public
corruption cases? How does it get on their desk? How
do they go about the investigation. I thought he did
a phenomenal job of laying that out. And you're right, Casey.
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This case started with the State Board of Accounts, whose
job is to audit layers of local government, coming in
and saying, hey, something seems really off about how this
client helter guy was spending money from the commissary, So
how does all of that go away? And looking at
the media outlets that were sharing this story, the WIBC
newsroom did a phenomenal job putting a putting a piece together.
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Carl from Tony's producer did a big piece on it
as well for WIBC dot com. If you don't go
back and read those, you can, And then I saw
their news media outlet's picking this up. It just seemed
like something that people really at going this doesn't feel right,
and I would strongly encourage other media out I think
Doug Carter's willing to talk to just about anybody at
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this point and talk about his view on this and
why this happened, and hey, look, if there's some obvious answer,
like hey, Heron totally screwed up the investigation, Carter's way
out and left field, they totally blew it. There's no
evidence of that whatsoever. Hey, the State Board of Accounts,
they're also totally wrong on this. If Braun and the
state Police superintendent believe that, then they need to come
out because eighty pages seems like a lot of pages
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for a probable cause affidavit. And I sure hope this
doesn't just get swept under the rug.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, well, maybe they just aren't in the mood to
comment on it right now. That's going around It seems.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like when will Braun call us fake news? When will
we get the fake WIBC fake news? When will we
get that?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I hope never.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Somebody who did call us fake news? The Indiana Secretary
of State, He did, Diego Morales, who after the You
had some correspondence with him, Is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That correct with his office? Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes, and Tony had some correspondence with his office. We
are very concerned now that he is suffering from what
we believe we have diagnosed as big fat phonophobia, and
so we will talk about that if that's right with you, Casey,
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's KENDELLN. Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh Man, what what the wrong serious health concerns for
the Indiana Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
What did you call it?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Big fat, big fat phonophobia?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Phonophobia.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We think the Indiana Secretary of State, Diego Morales, is
suffering from what artificial intelligence described as big fat phonophobia,
and that is casey a day disease.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't believe you that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Hey, I said, that's what it was symptoms in Are
you ready for what I typed in? Yeah, where you're
a big fat phony.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh and that's what it came back with, big fat phonophobia.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Where you say things that are illogical, aren't true, and
then you go in front of one group of people
and say something but won't do it in front of
another group of people. Gotcha, That's what AI told me
was big fat phonophobia.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's so weird because when I put in you know,
the symptoms, it came out want to be, which is
so I don't know. All right, take your diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We just kind of want to reset all of this
for everyone because this is the story. Look, we are
lucky that Diego Morales is a genuinely stupid individual. And
like I mean, if you have had I am telling
you if anybody has ever had a conversation, like a
legitimate conversation, if he were smart, we'd be in big trouble. Luckily, though,
he has the instincts of a gnat, and so he
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decides he wants to continue this fight and to keep
it going, and we're more than willing. So this all. Look,
there is a litany of stuff with Diego Morales, Secretary
of State, over years, but for the purpose of brevity.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh, you don't want to get into the spot. Bonuses
was the brother in law. No I got no big
contracts with the ninety thousand dollars vehicle.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, no, no, that's all in the past.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, we're moving on for the most all in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Okay, we start in March. I believe it was March
of this year where he disappeared for ten days, the
third or fourth highest ranking official in the state of
Indiana disappeared for ten days. When he asked where he
was his staff and by the way, this was during
the budget hearing, which is the most important thing, he
will he was a state wide office holder, his staff
would not identify where he was, only that he was
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on an economic development mission. We then learned, and everybody's like, well,
that's weird because Secretary State has no economic development authority
or responsibility. And remember we read the things that he
was in charge of and blah blah blah. And then
finally we determined he was in or they admitted he
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was in I can't remember we found it or they
admitted it. First we found it, I think because people
were posting in India on the Internet that he was there. Correct, yes,
that he was in India, and we're like, what in
the world is he doing in India? And then we
find out he went with this guy named Rajushinhala who
has this super mysterious eighty thousand dollars contract with his office,
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which Diego described as business services. And when I asked
him directly what that meant, he said, he checked on
the businesses. That was literally what he told me. He
checks on the businesses. And I asked him, does that mean, hey,
are you okay, mister business? He checks on the businesses.
So he's in India with Diego. We also know, based
on Reju's own admission from his Facebook account, that he
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was selling EB five visa access while in India while
on this what Diego's office described as an official trip
as Secretary of State to India. There was also a
venture capitalist who went with them to India. Okay, all
super weird, right, Yes, we agree. So then we asked, well,
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why did we as taxpayers pay for you to go
to India for an economic development mission when you have
new economic development and responsibilities? And he said, good news,
not fake news, but good news. Right, you didn't pay
for it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Taxpayers aren't on the hook for this.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We said, we didn't. Who paid for it?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Who did?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Then he said, I'm not going to tell you right.
We said, what do you mean? You're not going to
tell us you're in a foreign country for ten days
doing who knows what? But we know you're there with
the guy who's selling EB five visa access and you're
you're not gonna tell us that's correct? Why not? Well,
because I don't want this guy to get protested. But
rest assured he has no business with my office and
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he's just a well meaning local merchant.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Seems like bullcrap to me. So we kept that up
for a while and the public got very upset about that,
because you're on an official action, not on a vacation,
not a personal time. You've admitted I'm on official action
doing we don't know what we do know. You don't
have an economic development responsibility? Yeah, but you won't tell
us who paid for you to get there, and that's
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normal behavior to him.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, when the heat turned up, he decided he was
going to end that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes he changed his story. Yes he changed the story. Now,
a trained investigator might tell you if someone starts changing
the story, that's a giant red flag. We'll just throw
that in the barrel of red flags that go with
the eego morales. So then he tried to claim he
paid for the trip. Great news, I've paid for the trip.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, no, no, what you did was reimburse for the
trip allegedly. Yeah, after you didn't want to answer questions
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So we said, okay, can you show us proof like
that a check was deposited, how much the check was for,
and receipts that match up with what you paid back,
and then we'll all go home. Yeah, And he said
no no, So we said, well, that's also another red flag.
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Seems like you're kind of really hiding something. And then
we kind of said, well, we're done with this. We've
taken it as far as we can go. We don't
have any subpoena or investigative powers, and so we have
let you the public at large, know what a big
fat fraudster this guy is, and you can do with
that what you want to do. And we thought it
was over and done with and then diego Moralesy and
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he had a secretary of state. He goes to this
what was it the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board, correct meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Monthly meeting, which should be like.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
The biggest boring snooze fest. Let's make sure the motor
vehicle dealers are behaving in an upright and you know,
law applicable manner, and let's go about our merry way.
And he launched into a fifteen minute tirade about how
we're fake news, WIBC all WIBC, not the Kennel and
Casey Show, WIBC, wibc's fake, the Indie Star's fake, over
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and over and over again, how we're fake news. And
so we were like, hey, all we want to know
is who paid for your little tripp to India and
proof he paid the money back? What's fake about that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
This is where you come into.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, So I sent his office an email and just said, hey,
we'd like to know what his official position is about this.
And he was also complaining during that motor vehicle advisory
Board meeting that nobody was recognizing the accomplishments of the
Morales administration. Also super weird, right that he to somebody said, Hey,
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you know what, here's the deal. Come on the show.
We'll give you as much time as you want. Come
in live in person. That way you can't say, well,
you edited it, you clipped it. No, just come in
the studio and we'll give you the floor and you
can tout all of your accomplishments now.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
In fairness, Tony also sent a similar Carl, his producer,
send a similar email because you have impugned all of
WIBC with your harsh words about us being fake news,
and so I guess that includes Hammer and Nigel as well.
And the award winning how many awards is the WIBC
newsroom one over the years.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Tony awards line the hallway, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So we just like to know if we have harmed
you in some way, if you if we in some
way you know, have have harmed you, let us know
what it is. And finally you got a response.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I did good response and they respect respectfully declined the
interview request.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Wait wait, wait, he's not coming on.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He went to the Motor of VIHA Advisory Board and
yelled about us for like fifteen minutes about how we're
faking news and we don't tell his story.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And when he's given the opportunity, he was given the invite,
see one of those people that just wants to be
invited so we can say no.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It almost seems like he really doesn't want to tell
his story. It's almost like he's just saying things when
he's in a room and no one will challenge him.
And then when he has an opportunity to man up,
you know, not be a a big chicken, he doesn't
want it, which is why I'm very worried he suffers
from big fat phonophobia. Now here's the thing, Casey, Since
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he was such a fake tough guy in the Motor
Vehicle Advisory Board meeting and at other events, we've seen
the videos of him at that, like the campaign events.
Now when he's peering over the podium, like you could
laugh at that, it's ridiculous. It's like a mel Brooks skit, right,
Like this guy and I am a short person. I
can say this as a person who's five eight. He
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is so small he can literally almost not see over
the podium. They need some sort of booster thing or something,
and it's like he's now screaming about how people don't
like him and they're in the room. Probably so now
since he's too chicken to come on this program or
to come on with Tony every time going forward we
talk about Diego Morales. We have a theme song that
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we will play, Kevin Maestro if you please.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right. Yes, it's very thematic.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
So that is the new official theme song of the
Diego Morales administration and Diego Morales. And here's the deal. Diego,
you've done this to yourself. And I know we've said
this before, but we have new people listening all the time.
You've done this to yourself. Diego. You chose to leave
the country for ten days during the budget session. You
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chose to go to India with the guy who's on
the internet bragging about selling visa access. You chose to
do that, and the public has every right, every right
to know who paid for that trip. It's not gotcha journalism,
it's not fake news. We have every right to know.
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And it's not going to stop, no, because you keep
making it worse, because you can't get out of your
own way, because you're an ego maniac, and every time
you open your damn mouth, it gets worse for you
because the public goes, yeah, we do have the right
to know. We do have the right to know what
you're doing on official state time, in your official state capacity,
and who's paying for you to get there?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It is Kendilly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I know you want to talk about this, Caitlin Clark,
but first I beat Okay, We've been pretty candid about
this over the years. Casey does all the work. I
don't look at anything, and then I just sit down
and start talking. So it'smasic you're just doing the work
for yourself here on the Kendeling Casey pretty much. So
I was perusing the template and this article from the
Hill is crazy about how much it costs to own
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a car.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh yeah, we're going to get to that in a
little bit, or what you want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Now, That's why I'm talking about it now, Okay, Like
I'm feeling as though the audience needs to know this,
that this is a staggering number that according to this
article at the Hill, which is they respected publication, no
idea why they would lie about this. Americans pay roughly
twelve and twenty eight dollars a year to own a car,
or roughly one thousand and sixty nine dollars per month.
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Now this includes insurance, day to day maintenance, and another operator,
so I assume that includes gas. So basically, all in
on average to drive automobile, it's eight hundred and twenty
eight dollars a year. That blew my mind. There's no
way it cost me that much to run that little
golf cart that I have.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I think it's really interesting. Somebody told me that
they think part of this is the automakers constantly putting
out the advertising making mostly younger men feel like they
need to upgrade their car every single year.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh, because so people are not. People are always getting.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
New new cars, buy new cars.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Okay, So they broke it down eight percent financing charges,
eight percent parking, five percent, taxes and fees thirty eight okay,
big part of its depreciation. That is part of the equation.
Eighteen percent fuel, fourteen percent insurance, twelve percent maintenance and repairs.
And that's that's your total. Okay. So see, I'm not
a good person on this because from most of our
audience knows I drive a car with that. It's a
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it's an older car, it's over a decade old. It
has no power locks or windows, and it's the size
of a golf cart. So I'm really bad person to
do this. I've owned this car for many many years now,
had it paid off in full, and I don't. My
car could not depreciate thirty eight percent every single year.
There's nothing left to depreciate. I mean, I have to
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put oil in it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
To appreciate it all it's going to I have to.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Put oil in it like every two weeks. It just
burns through the oil like I am in it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's probably not good either.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The boss Bruce Springsteen and Born to Run described it
as a death trap, a suicide wrap. That's what I
drive to work. And here's the thing. I should get
a new car. I could get a new car, but
there's a certain level of pride of can I run,
actually run this thing into the ground.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Can I think you're doing a good job. Drive this
thing until it just stops going. Yeah, Well, if you're
having to put oil in it every couple of weeks,
I think you're there.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, But I mean it still runs fine. As long
as I do that, it's fine, Like there's nothing wrong
with the car.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Most people don't have been oil in their car every
two weeks. That's not running fine.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It is running fine.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That's a that's a bad operate properly.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Do you have a Toyota No? Oh no, no? Why
is there something last a while? That's my boy. I've
had toyotas. I had a Toyota a Corolla years ago.
I got three hundred thousand miles out of that car
when I got rid of it, and it was still
running great. It's just the problem was so when I
owned my radio station in North Carolina for all those
years down near Wilmington, there was no there was no
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garage at the building or car port, so just sit
out in the sun. The steering wheel had melted. That
was the problem I had to get rid of because
of the steering wheel, and the seats had basically melted
in the in the southern heat. But other than that,
the car you should drive across the country ran fine.
I think I could have got another on hundred thousand
miles out of it if i'd tried. But if the
car runs fine, and I know I'd have to do
to maintain it, and it costs me nothing, and it
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gets great gas and it was like forty miles to
the gallon. Why would I get a new car?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah? But do you feel safe driving your daughter in
that vehicle?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I don't drive my daughter in that vehicle. She's never
been in that vehicle.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I would absolutely reason.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I would never drive my kid in that vehicle. We
have a vehicle that I feel safe with my kid
being in. So why Look, Nathan, I'll say, my only
regret is I have but one life to give before
my country. Yeah, the only regret I have is that
I have but one car that saves me this amount of.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Moune m m. Yeah. But I I you got to
put yourself in a position of safety as well.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I don't drive the interstates anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I mean you are. I've given up with thatt her
in the car. But you can put yourself in.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Very at all times. No, I drive a very slow
rate of speed of all time. It's fine. Would you, Oh,
would you like to buy me a car? Would you
like to step right up?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You should be living here. This is the theme of
my existence. Now, Rob, you should be doing this. Robbie
should be doing that. Robbie should buy and you'd be
buying yourself a new car if you would like to
buy me a new car, not even a new car,
a less used car. I will gladly drive it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I think that you you could afford a previously loved vehicle.
But here's the thing. You say, you won't put your
daughter in the car for safety reasons. That's right, Yet
you're gonna put yourself in the car. And you are
the head of your family. So what does that say.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't really have any you've been around my house.
I don't have any control over anything.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
As long as your wife's cars safe.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, the car is wonderful, and I would she has
a very safe tank like automobile that could probably run
over any and everything.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Another thing from this article that was shocking. On average,
the typical American family spends or the typical America not
even family spends one thousand dollars on parking.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, what's that? Well, okay, so like our company pays
for our parking. I wonder what it would be. It
wouldn't be that much, No, it wouldn't be anywhere near
that much, but it would be expensive for downtown parking.
But our company pays for that, so we're we're I
guess we would be part of that, except we have
the fabulous benefit of.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Being right with the garage, the use of the garage, right. Yeah,
it's surprising though, what fifty bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Depreciation was the one that look at you want because
you always here, Like the moment you drive the car
off the lot, it loses value. This does seem to
I mean, thirty eight percent seems like a lot of depreciation,
probably on whatever automobile you're driving.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
See. I think the issue with you is you don't
even know what kind of car you'd get because you're
not really a car guy. Like if you were in
the market, which which I think you are in the market,
you're just in denial about it. You don't even know
what you'd get.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, the car to me is always about getting from
point A to point B. That's all I've ever viewed
a car as. And I get that some people have
many different views on cars, love affairs, whatever. I was
always viewed as the car. The goal of the cars
to get you from point A to point B. In
as long as I don't need bells, any whistles, I
don't need any of that. Stuff. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You wouldn't even know what to do if you had
bells and whistles, no, like heated or cooled seats, electric windows, No,
I would have no idea.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I feel like I'm scamming someone. Uh huh, all.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right, so Donald Trump, he's playing golf in Scotland and
then took a pit stop and made a deal with
the EU.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Did you see the caddy throw the ball?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You think he's getting some mulligans.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
He's to judge Syr.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think he can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Saw here's he's cheating.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We'll talk about the deal coming up on ninety three
w ib C
Casey. I hate to say this, what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
But I think our Secretary of State here in the
state of Indiana may be suffering from a serious illness.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is it the illness of wanna be because he wants
to be Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, I was looking on the internet and look, you know,
the the AI diagnosis thing is all the all the
rage these days. Consult the trained medical.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Professional life in his symptoms.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't pretend who was a great television doctor who
is one of our old doctor Noah Drake. I don't
in any semblants pretend to be Kev's laughing because of
course that was the character played by Rick Springfield on
the Days of Our Lives Doctor Noah Drake. I don't
in any semblants pretend to be a trained medical professional.
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But I do believe after putting the symptoms and the
behavior of Diego Morales into the artificial intelligence, he suffers
from what is known as big fat phone of phobia.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is that technical? I thought it was wanna be?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Big Big fat phonophobia is where you, you know, you
profess to be a real tough guy, a real billy badass,
you know, and like a motor vehicle advisory Board meeting,
and then somebody says, well, okay, tough guy, why don't
you come in here and say it to our face?
And then you just he says, no, thank you, So
we'll fill you in because you made a very generous
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offer to the Secretary of State, very gracious. Yeah, after
he called us the fake news, the fake WIBC is
what he called us, I think, in fact, and then
Tony did as well, very friendly, said please let us
know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Come on in, tell us about your accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
He responded to the both of us. And he's such
a tough well, he has people be a tough guy
for him. He's such a tough guy at the Motor
Vehicle Advisory Board meeting, his spokesperson, such a tough guy
behind the keyboard. But you know, when it comes to
in person, as I found out, Remember remember the little
little conversation we had at the Clay County Lincoln Day,
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arms flailing, the dry mouth, uh.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know, sweating a little beat of sweat on his brow.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I do think, and I'm very concerned, and I would
highly advise that Diego consult a trained medical professional, because
I do believe he is suffering from big fat phonophobia.
And so we'll get to that coming up a little
bit later. But you have other breaking news we need
to get to.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, I don't know if it's breaking. It happened over
the weekend. Dan Bongino put out that tweet and he
stated that he was never gonna be the same after
discovering what he has discovered public corruption and political weaponization.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Can I just can I just read the tweet like
this is so look I am at this point like,
just shut up and tell us what it is. Yeah,
I am so sick of the new big thing. The
next thing it's gonna be monumental. It's gonna rock you
to your core. It's like they're gearing you up for
a Rolling Stones concert or a pro wrestling match.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We'll give you the whole seat, but you only need
the edge.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But then nothing ever happens with these people. No one
ever gets arrested, no one ever goes down. There's never
a any other you know, big reveal, Like listen to this, uh,
during my tenure, this is Dan Bongina. What is he?
He's the assistant FBI director, deputy director. During my tenure
here as the deputy director of the FBI. I have
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repeatedly relate to you that things are happening that might
not be immediately visible, but they are happening.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They are happening like this is the case. Is this
They're doing their due diligence, their research, They're building the case.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is this not a setup for some sort of super
sci fi movie or horror movie. That's I mean, it
might not be immediately visible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You don't know what's going on right now, but trust us.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's like you could hear the guy some door creaking,
some haunted house, some view from the inside. Yes, the
director and I are committed. He doesn't call him just
Cash Hotel the director like Cash Ftel, that's his name.
The Director and I are committed to stamping out public
corruption and the political weaponanizationable law enforcement and intelligence operations.
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It is a priority for both of us. But what
I've learned in the course of our properly predicated and
necessary investigations into these aforementioned matters has shocked me down
to my core. Yeah, we cannot run a republic like this.
I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Wow, what a tease? What have you learned?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Remember in remember in What's the Mood Dumb and Dumber,
where Jeff Daniels lights his leg on fire at the
gas station and the woman who we find out she's
the FBI agent. Later she's like trying to give him
her number and she can't get the number right, and
at one point he just sounds he just says something
to the effect of like, for the love of God,
just give me the damn number that is us at
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this point with these people, just tell us what it is.
I'm so sick of the tease. I'm so sick of
it's coming. I'm so sick of it's gonna rock eater.
I don't believe a word any of you people say anymore,
because there's never any receipts, there's never any delivery.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, they are conducting righteous and proper investigations by the
book and in accordance with the law.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We don't even know what it's about. Is this Epstein?
Is there some shadow government that you found? Have we
found the Obama's shadow government? Have we found the cabal?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, wouldn't it be something if they were all tied together.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You know what they're doing, They're doing what they train
us to do in this business. Which is you always
tease to the next segments, keep them hanging around you going,
except they are not playing for ratings points. Their bonus
check doesn't depend on a rating point. They're just government
people who should be wholly invested in telling the people
what is it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He leaves. He gives himself an out though, after telling
you that this rocked him to his core. Yeah, right,
I cannot predict where it will land. This is some
crazy wight off.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh there's more ack me to my core.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You're right, I don't know where it's gonna land.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I don't notice. Can I read the rest of this
if you want. I didn't even notice there.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Was Donald try Donald Trump voice. I have to point
it out, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And we told you we had to. Did we ever
find hate or creepy like music? Because remember we had
to stop doing that because YouTube got angry at us
that we were playing whatever, even though we're I don't
I don't know why we were talking over it. We
thought we'd crack that code, but YouTube was being YouTube
has been like, uh diegle browse. They got big mad
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at us. Okay, we are going to conduct these righteous
and proper investigations by the book, and in accordance with
the law, we are going to get the answers in
all caps we all deserve. As with any investigation, I
cannot protect where land, but I can promise you an
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honest and dignified effort at truth. Not my truth or
your truth, but the truth. God bless America and all
those who defend her respectfully. Dan nothing, it's just the
respectfully at the end that really ties it all together.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's how I sign off on any of my emails. Respectfully.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, So but again, what is this Epstein? If so,
just tell us we don't. We don't. I think we've
investigated it. Y'all charged him whatever he had for the charging,
that'll be probably sufficient. Here's what we had the lady
Maxwell watch and know. We'll get into her later. Is
that what this is related to? Like?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Can you or is it? Regarding the allegations from the
Director of National Intelligence Toulsey Gabber claiming that the Obama
officials engaged in treasonous conspiracy, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Know, but I have reached my limit with these people
always acting like remember when they sent the influencers out
with the binders. I have reached my limit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is this just another Binder esque yes thing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
These people live not doing anything, and I think they
think as long as they're giving you the perception that
they're looking into something, maybe you won't notice that they're
not actually doing anything.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why would Dan Bongino fabricate anything, though? I mean, consider this,
This guy gave up the broadcaster. Well, so he knows
the artes right, but he did give up a career
doing that to go be in the FBI. So he's
got he's got. He can't go back to broadcasting if
he doesn't produce.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, So see this is a learning. This is why
when everybody's like you should run for governor, I'm like, no,
because government, to steal a line from Judge Smails and Caddyshack,
it'sissa sucks. And especially he's not even the decision maker.
He's beholden to multiple other people. He can't pass gas
without Trump's permission. So how miserable would that existence be
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for that guy? Will you know? Just wants to flap
his gums at any turn.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, here's something to consider. People who are wondering, Okay,
is this about the Jeffrey Epstein case or is this
about what Tulsea Gabbard has come out and said about
the Obama era, maybe it's both. Maybe they're all tied together,
and that is what has rocked him to his core.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, I know this isn't on the template, but can
we review that fabulous bombshell interview that we did with
Doug Carter, former state Police superintendent on Friday, because we
didn't get a chance to kind of talk about that,
and look, I just think and the response over the
weekend to this about the allegations that there's this Dubois
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County sheriff who was involved in this misuse of money
and this guy is super close to Braun and they
had an eighty page probable cause Affidavid with that naving
the state police, and then as soon as Braun became
the governor and appoints a new state police superintendent, all
went away. Like I feel like we've got to comment.
I mean, now that the interview has in news media
outlets around the state are starting to pick this up,
and you know, what did Braun know? And when can
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we get to that?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
When we come back, it is Kendall and Casey. It's
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Okay, so we got to revisit the this interview we
did with former State Police Superintendent Doug Carter on Friday. Now,
a little behind the scenes stuff. We normally when we
do a big interview, and that one was a big interview,
and we'll talk about here in a second. Normally, like
the next segment will kind of do a deep dive.
But you had just decided that was just too much
(10:19):
for me. I gotta do all happy stuff the final
hour of Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Or you could say that you walked out of the studio, disappeared,
and did not return in time.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
There was nothing we're gonna get to in one minute.
We had one minute, so I'm talking like the next hour.
We could have spent the next hour talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We could have.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm not blaming you.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was a pretty big, heavy story and it was Friday,
and I said, you know what, let's lighten things up.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So if you missed it, you're the voice of reason
on this program. You know, I think all these people
are rotten, so I'm predisposed to think everybody's rotten. Yeah,
you're the voice of reason. That felt like a really
big interview, and that felt like a really big story.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It did it did? It felt like he was really.
I mean you could even tell him physically. After we
were done, he leaned back in his chair and yeah,
he took a big, deep breath like he wanted to
get that off his chest.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So if you missed Friday's show, wait until noon. We
don't care what you do afternoon, but keep it right
here until noon and then afternoon. I always loved when
I said that. Kevin, our producer just nods. I don't
know if he's doing that subconsciously or not. Yeah, Kevin's
a good man. I'm here for it. Thank you, Kevin.
Former State Police Superintendent Doug Carter joined us for the
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ten o'clock hour on Friday, hour two of our program,
and we talked at length about an investigation that he
helped launch and oversee when he was still the state
Police superintendent last year into a guy by the name
of Tom Kleinhelter, who is the sheriff of Dubois County
now whose home county is du Bois County, Casey, Oh,
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that would be the governor, that would be the governor
ron and these allegations that I believe they said that
there was an eighty page the numbers did out to
me was eighty page probably cause affidavit ye, involving this
Tom klin Helter, who, by the way, it's irrefutable, like
the endorsed Braun, there was a big thing. I mean,
those guys, it appears, are pretty close politically. And in
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this eighty page probably cause Affidavid, the state Police laid
out a respected state police officer was putting charged the investigation,
by the name of Jeff Heron, that this Tom klein
Helter allegedly misused commissary money involving trips including taking his
wife to other states, foreign countries, et cetera. And Doug
Carter's state Police superintendent, and Jeff Heron, this respected investigator
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for state Police, felt like this was a pretty open
and shutcase that this took place, and a special prosecutor
was brought in. They believed the sopecial prosecutor was on board.
And then all of a sudden at the end of
the year, Carter leaves as state superintendent, bron brings in
a new superintendent, and Braun becomes governor, and all of
a sudden, this case on klin Helter just disappears. And
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not only that, but then Heron, the guy who was
investigating the case ends up getting some sort of punishment,
and Carter was with us on Friday, going, this doesn't
make any sense. There's no reason that I can see
this would have been happening, knowing what I know about
this case, and it feels like something that every media outlet,
not only in this city but in this state should
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be demanding answers from not only Braun but also the
state police superintendent. What happened in this month month and
a half window from when Braun becomes governor, you become
state Police superintendent, and then the public announcement that there's
no charges being filed on this guy. Everybody should be
demanding answers to this because it doesn't feel right. Casey well, and.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It started with the State Board of Accounts. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's just such a good point, which is misspartisan, right.
And I thought Doug Carter did a great job of
laying out and that's one of the things I wanted
him to do, was not just talking about this case,
but hey, how do state police invent to gate public
corruption cases? How does it get on their desk? How
do they go about the investigation. I thought he did
a phenomenal job of laying that out. And you're right, Casey.
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This case started with the State Board of Accounts, whose
job is to audit layers of local government, coming in
and saying, hey, something seems really off about how this
client helter guy was spending money from the commissary, So
how does all of that go away? And looking at
the media outlets that were sharing this story, the WIBC
newsroom did a phenomenal job putting a putting a piece together.
(14:33):
Carl from Tony's producer did a big piece on it
as well for WIBC dot com. If you don't go
back and read those, you can, And then I saw
their news media outlet's picking this up. It just seemed
like something that people really at going this doesn't feel right,
and I would strongly encourage other media out I think
Doug Carter's willing to talk to just about anybody at
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this point and talk about his view on this and
why this happened, and hey, look, if there's some obvious answer,
like hey, Heron totally screwed up the investigation, Carter's way
out and left field, they totally blew it. There's no
evidence of that whatsoever. Hey, the State Board of Accounts,
they're also totally wrong on this. If Braun and the
state Police superintendent believe that, then they need to come
out because eighty pages seems like a lot of pages
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for a probable cause affidavit. And I sure hope this
doesn't just get swept under the rug.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, well, maybe they just aren't in the mood to
comment on it right now. That's going around It seems.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like when will Braun call us fake news? When will
we get the fake WIBC fake news? When will we
get that?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I hope never.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Somebody who did call us fake news? The Indiana Secretary
of State, He did, Diego Morales, who after the You
had some correspondence with him, Is.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That correct with his office? Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes, and Tony had some correspondence with his office. We
are very concerned now that he is suffering from what
we believe we have diagnosed as big fat phonophobia, and
so we will talk about that if that's right with you, Casey,
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's KENDELLN. Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh Man, what what the wrong serious health concerns for
the Indiana Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
What did you call it?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Big fat, big fat phonophobia?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Phonophobia.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We think the Indiana Secretary of State, Diego Morales, is
suffering from what artificial intelligence described as big fat phonophobia,
and that is casey a day disease.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't believe you that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Hey, I said, that's what it was symptoms in Are
you ready for what I typed in? Yeah, where you're
a big fat phony.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh and that's what it came back with, big fat phonophobia.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Where you say things that are illogical, aren't true, and
then you go in front of one group of people
and say something but won't do it in front of
another group of people. Gotcha, That's what AI told me
was big fat phonophobia.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's so weird because when I put in you know,
the symptoms, it came out want to be, which is
so I don't know. All right, take your diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
We just kind of want to reset all of this
for everyone because this is the story. Look, we are
lucky that Diego Morales is a genuinely stupid individual. And
like I mean, if you have had I am telling
you if anybody has ever had a conversation, like a
legitimate conversation, if he were smart, we'd be in big trouble. Luckily, though,
he has the instincts of a gnat, and so he
(17:19):
decides he wants to continue this fight and to keep
it going, and we're more than willing. So this all. Look,
there is a litany of stuff with Diego Morales, Secretary
of State, over years, but for the purpose of brevity.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh, you don't want to get into the spot. Bonuses
was the brother in law. No I got no big
contracts with the ninety thousand dollars vehicle.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, no, no, that's all in the past.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, we're moving on for the most all in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Okay, we start in March. I believe it was March
of this year where he disappeared for ten days, the
third or fourth highest ranking official in the state of
Indiana disappeared for ten days. When he asked where he
was his staff and by the way, this was during
the budget hearing, which is the most important thing, he
will he was a state wide office holder, his staff
would not identify where he was, only that he was
(18:05):
on an economic development mission. We then learned, and everybody's like, well,
that's weird because Secretary State has no economic development authority
or responsibility. And remember we read the things that he
was in charge of and blah blah blah. And then
finally we determined he was in or they admitted he
(18:26):
was in I can't remember we found it or they
admitted it. First we found it, I think because people
were posting in India on the Internet that he was there. Correct, yes,
that he was in India, and we're like, what in
the world is he doing in India? And then we
find out he went with this guy named Rajushinhala who
has this super mysterious eighty thousand dollars contract with his office,
(18:48):
which Diego described as business services. And when I asked
him directly what that meant, he said, he checked on
the businesses. That was literally what he told me. He
checks on the businesses. And I asked him, does that mean, hey,
are you okay, mister business? He checks on the businesses.
So he's in India with Diego. We also know, based
on Reju's own admission from his Facebook account, that he
(19:10):
was selling EB five visa access while in India while
on this what Diego's office described as an official trip
as Secretary of State to India. There was also a
venture capitalist who went with them to India. Okay, all
super weird, right, Yes, we agree. So then we asked, well,
(19:31):
why did we as taxpayers pay for you to go
to India for an economic development mission when you have
new economic development and responsibilities? And he said, good news,
not fake news, but good news. Right, you didn't pay
for it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Taxpayers aren't on the hook for this.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We said, we didn't. Who paid for it?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Who did?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Then he said, I'm not going to tell you right.
We said, what do you mean? You're not going to
tell us you're in a foreign country for ten days
doing who knows what? But we know you're there with
the guy who's selling EB five visa access and you're
you're not gonna tell us that's correct? Why not? Well,
because I don't want this guy to get protested. But
rest assured he has no business with my office and
(20:10):
he's just a well meaning local merchant.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Seems like bullcrap to me. So we kept that up
for a while and the public got very upset about that,
because you're on an official action, not on a vacation,
not a personal time. You've admitted I'm on official action
doing we don't know what we do know. You don't
have an economic development responsibility? Yeah, but you won't tell
us who paid for you to get there, and that's
(20:37):
normal behavior to him.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, when the heat turned up, he decided he was
going to end that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes he changed his story. Yes he changed the story. Now,
a trained investigator might tell you if someone starts changing
the story, that's a giant red flag. We'll just throw
that in the barrel of red flags that go with
the eego morales. So then he tried to claim he
paid for the trip. Great news, I've paid for the trip.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, no, no, what you did was reimburse for the
trip allegedly. Yeah, after you didn't want to answer questions
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So we said, okay, can you show us proof like
that a check was deposited, how much the check was for,
and receipts that match up with what you paid back,
and then we'll all go home. Yeah, And he said
no no, So we said, well, that's also another red flag.
(21:32):
Seems like you're kind of really hiding something. And then
we kind of said, well, we're done with this. We've
taken it as far as we can go. We don't
have any subpoena or investigative powers, and so we have
let you the public at large, know what a big
fat fraudster this guy is, and you can do with
that what you want to do. And we thought it
was over and done with and then diego Moralesy and
(21:52):
he had a secretary of state. He goes to this
what was it the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board, correct meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Monthly meeting, which should be like.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
The biggest boring snooze fest. Let's make sure the motor
vehicle dealers are behaving in an upright and you know,
law applicable manner, and let's go about our merry way.
And he launched into a fifteen minute tirade about how
we're fake news, WIBC all WIBC, not the Kennel and
Casey Show, WIBC, wibc's fake, the Indie Star's fake, over
(22:26):
and over and over again, how we're fake news. And
so we were like, hey, all we want to know
is who paid for your little tripp to India and
proof he paid the money back? What's fake about that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
This is where you come into.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, So I sent his office an email and just said, hey,
we'd like to know what his official position is about this.
And he was also complaining during that motor vehicle advisory
Board meeting that nobody was recognizing the accomplishments of the
Morales administration. Also super weird, right that he to somebody said, Hey,
(23:00):
you know what, here's the deal. Come on the show.
We'll give you as much time as you want. Come
in live in person. That way you can't say, well,
you edited it, you clipped it. No, just come in
the studio and we'll give you the floor and you
can tout all of your accomplishments now.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
In fairness, Tony also sent a similar Carl, his producer,
send a similar email because you have impugned all of
WIBC with your harsh words about us being fake news,
and so I guess that includes Hammer and Nigel as well.
And the award winning how many awards is the WIBC
newsroom one over the years.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Tony awards line the hallway, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So we just like to know if we have harmed
you in some way, if you if we in some
way you know, have have harmed you, let us know
what it is. And finally you got a response.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I did good response and they respect respectfully declined the
interview request.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Wait wait, wait, he's not coming on.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He went to the Motor of VIHA Advisory Board and
yelled about us for like fifteen minutes about how we're
faking news and we don't tell his story.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And when he's given the opportunity, he was given the invite,
see one of those people that just wants to be
invited so we can say no.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It almost seems like he really doesn't want to tell
his story. It's almost like he's just saying things when
he's in a room and no one will challenge him.
And then when he has an opportunity to man up,
you know, not be a a big chicken, he doesn't
want it, which is why I'm very worried he suffers
from big fat phonophobia. Now here's the thing, Casey, Since
(24:36):
he was such a fake tough guy in the Motor
Vehicle Advisory Board meeting and at other events, we've seen
the videos of him at that, like the campaign events.
Now when he's peering over the podium, like you could
laugh at that, it's ridiculous. It's like a mel Brooks skit, right,
Like this guy and I am a short person. I
can say this as a person who's five eight. He
(24:58):
is so small he can literally almost not see over
the podium. They need some sort of booster thing or something,
and it's like he's now screaming about how people don't
like him and they're in the room. Probably so now
since he's too chicken to come on this program or
to come on with Tony every time going forward we
talk about Diego Morales. We have a theme song that
(25:21):
we will play, Kevin Maestro if you please.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right. Yes, it's very thematic.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
So that is the new official theme song of the
Diego Morales administration and Diego Morales. And here's the deal. Diego,
you've done this to yourself. And I know we've said
this before, but we have new people listening all the time.
You've done this to yourself. Diego. You chose to leave
the country for ten days during the budget session. You
(26:07):
chose to go to India with the guy who's on
the internet bragging about selling visa access. You chose to
do that, and the public has every right, every right
to know who paid for that trip. It's not gotcha journalism,
it's not fake news. We have every right to know.
(26:28):
And it's not going to stop, no, because you keep
making it worse, because you can't get out of your
own way, because you're an ego maniac, and every time
you open your damn mouth, it gets worse for you
because the public goes, yeah, we do have the right
to know. We do have the right to know what
you're doing on official state time, in your official state capacity,
and who's paying for you to get there?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It is Kendilly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I know you want to talk about this, Caitlin Clark,
but first I beat Okay, We've been pretty candid about
this over the years. Casey does all the work. I
don't look at anything, and then I just sit down
and start talking. So it'smasic you're just doing the work
for yourself here on the Kendeling Casey pretty much. So
I was perusing the template and this article from the
Hill is crazy about how much it costs to own
(27:19):
a car.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh yeah, we're going to get to that in a
little bit, or what you want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Now, That's why I'm talking about it now, Okay, Like
I'm feeling as though the audience needs to know this,
that this is a staggering number that according to this
article at the Hill, which is they respected publication, no
idea why they would lie about this. Americans pay roughly
twelve and twenty eight dollars a year to own a car,
or roughly one thousand and sixty nine dollars per month.
(27:48):
Now this includes insurance, day to day maintenance, and another operator,
so I assume that includes gas. So basically, all in
on average to drive automobile, it's eight hundred and twenty
eight dollars a year. That blew my mind. There's no
way it cost me that much to run that little
golf cart that I have.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I think it's really interesting. Somebody told me that
they think part of this is the automakers constantly putting
out the advertising making mostly younger men feel like they
need to upgrade their car every single year.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh, because so people are not. People are always getting.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
New new cars, buy new cars.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Okay, So they broke it down eight percent financing charges,
eight percent parking, five percent, taxes and fees thirty eight okay,
big part of its depreciation. That is part of the equation.
Eighteen percent fuel, fourteen percent insurance, twelve percent maintenance and repairs.
And that's that's your total. Okay. So see, I'm not
a good person on this because from most of our
audience knows I drive a car with that. It's a
(28:52):
it's an older car, it's over a decade old. It
has no power locks or windows, and it's the size
of a golf cart. So I'm really bad person to
do this. I've owned this car for many many years now,
had it paid off in full, and I don't. My
car could not depreciate thirty eight percent every single year.
There's nothing left to depreciate. I mean, I have to
(29:12):
put oil in it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
To appreciate it all it's going to I have to.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Put oil in it like every two weeks. It just
burns through the oil like I am in it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's probably not good either.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The boss Bruce Springsteen and Born to Run described it
as a death trap, a suicide wrap. That's what I
drive to work. And here's the thing. I should get
a new car. I could get a new car, but
there's a certain level of pride of can I run,
actually run this thing into the ground.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Can I think you're doing a good job. Drive this
thing until it just stops going. Yeah, Well, if you're
having to put oil in it every couple of weeks,
I think you're there.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, But I mean it still runs fine. As long
as I do that, it's fine, Like there's nothing wrong
with the car.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Most people don't have been oil in their car every
two weeks. That's not running fine.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It is running fine.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That's a that's a bad operate properly.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Do you have a Toyota No? Oh no, no? Why
is there something last a while? That's my boy. I've
had toyotas. I had a Toyota a Corolla years ago.
I got three hundred thousand miles out of that car
when I got rid of it, and it was still
running great. It's just the problem was so when I
owned my radio station in North Carolina for all those
years down near Wilmington, there was no there was no
(30:20):
garage at the building or car port, so just sit
out in the sun. The steering wheel had melted. That
was the problem I had to get rid of because
of the steering wheel, and the seats had basically melted
in the in the southern heat. But other than that,
the car you should drive across the country ran fine.
I think I could have got another on hundred thousand
miles out of it if i'd tried. But if the
car runs fine, and I know I'd have to do
to maintain it, and it costs me nothing, and it
(30:41):
gets great gas and it was like forty miles to
the gallon. Why would I get a new car?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah? But do you feel safe driving your daughter in
that vehicle?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I don't drive my daughter in that vehicle. She's never
been in that vehicle.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I would absolutely reason.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I would never drive my kid in that vehicle. We
have a vehicle that I feel safe with my kid
being in. So why Look, Nathan, I'll say, my only
regret is I have but one life to give before
my country. Yeah, the only regret I have is that
I have but one car that saves me this amount of.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Moune m m. Yeah. But I I you got to
put yourself in a position of safety as well.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I don't drive the interstates anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I mean you are. I've given up with thatt her
in the car. But you can put yourself in.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Very at all times. No, I drive a very slow
rate of speed of all time. It's fine. Would you, Oh,
would you like to buy me a car? Would you
like to step right up?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You should be living here. This is the theme of
my existence. Now, Rob, you should be doing this. Robbie
should be doing that. Robbie should buy and you'd be
buying yourself a new car if you would like to
buy me a new car, not even a new car,
a less used car. I will gladly drive it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I think that you you could afford a previously loved vehicle.
But here's the thing. You say, you won't put your
daughter in the car for safety reasons. That's right, Yet
you're gonna put yourself in the car. And you are
the head of your family. So what does that say.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't really have any you've been around my house.
I don't have any control over anything.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
As long as your wife's cars safe.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, the car is wonderful, and I would she has
a very safe tank like automobile that could probably run
over any and everything.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Another thing from this article that was shocking. On average,
the typical American family spends or the typical America not
even family spends one thousand dollars on parking.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, what's that? Well, okay, so like our company pays
for our parking. I wonder what it would be. It
wouldn't be that much, No, it wouldn't be anywhere near
that much, but it would be expensive for downtown parking.
But our company pays for that, so we're we're I
guess we would be part of that, except we have
the fabulous benefit of.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Being right with the garage, the use of the garage, right. Yeah,
it's surprising though, what fifty bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Depreciation was the one that look at you want because
you always here, Like the moment you drive the car
off the lot, it loses value. This does seem to
I mean, thirty eight percent seems like a lot of depreciation,
probably on whatever automobile you're driving.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
See. I think the issue with you is you don't
even know what kind of car you'd get because you're
not really a car guy. Like if you were in
the market, which which I think you are in the market,
you're just in denial about it. You don't even know
what you'd get.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, the car to me is always about getting from
point A to point B. That's all I've ever viewed
a car as. And I get that some people have
many different views on cars, love affairs, whatever. I was
always viewed as the car. The goal of the cars
to get you from point A to point B. In
as long as I don't need bells, any whistles, I
don't need any of that. Stuff. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You wouldn't even know what to do if you had
bells and whistles, no, like heated or cooled seats, electric windows, No,
I would have no idea.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I feel like I'm scamming someone. Uh huh, all.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right, so Donald Trump, he's playing golf in Scotland and
then took a pit stop and made a deal with
the EU.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Did you see the caddy throw the ball?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You think he's getting some mulligans.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
He's to judge Syr.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think he can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Saw here's he's cheating.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We'll talk about the deal coming up on ninety three
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