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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You can't even begin to make up out rotten. These
Republicans are who run this state, and boy, redistricting is
front and center to show you all you need to know.
We'll get to it here in a second. It's Kenell
and Casey show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. Our old
pal Jerry Lopez Indie Spanglish on Twitter in her place.
(00:22):
Before we get to the whole, the all the big
moving parts now on redistricting here in Indiana. Coming up
ten o'clock. Tom Labianco will be with us. He's the
guy who broke the AI Porngate story. He's providing regular
updates as he talks to various sources, and he's got
a couple of big updates on that. So we speak
with him today at ten o'clock. All right, So it
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came out last night. Jake Sherman broke this at Jake
Sherman on Twitter, and now the Indiana Capitol Chronicle has
a big amongst others have big articles on it as well.
That the pressure is mounting because so many Republicans in
the House and Senate here in the state of Indiana
are coming out saying the obvious, which is this is
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it relates to re districting completely just partisan politics. There's
zero reason we can even lie to you and try
to make up a reason we would need to do
it for anything other than that. And we have seen
numerous members of the House and Senate say we're completely
out on this. And it was believed, as we talked
to NICKI Kelly yesterday, that momentum was mounting that there
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will not even be a special session called due to
a lack of support for this. And apparently the White
House got w into this, and now they have summoned
the Indiana General Assembly, the Republicans to the White.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
House, come to the Principal's office. That's what it sounds like.
It makes no sense that we would even consider doing
this in Indiana. We don't need to do it. We
have a huge supermajority, there's no need to redraw any
lines that The problem is they just want every other
stayed to be locking step and it just doesn't work
for certain states.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's no need. Well, it's a numbers game. And I
am sure to some level when the Trump administration first
went down this rabbit hole, which was to begin the
process with Texas, see Ohio has to do it, there's
some obligation, like legal obligation Ohio has because of the
way there is their constitution, their state government is set up.
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They have to do this they and they do this
on this way every set of cycles. But with places
like Texas, I'm sure once Texas went forward, they knew
California would respond, We'll get to California here in just
a moment, because they had a whole hullabaloo yesterday, and
then the Trump administration started doing math in their head,
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who are not only reliable Republican governors, but reliably Republican
states that we think we can get a B or
C out of them? And in their mind, the numbers,
if they got everybody to cooperate, would work in their favor.
The problem is if one or more of these states
like Indiana appeared, appears whatever to be going down, don't
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do what you think they're gonna do, then the whole
thing falls apart and you could theoretically end up actually
losing seats because of what California can actually do well.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And to your point yesterday, once Indiana does it, California's next.
The Ohio goes in Wisconsin, goes in Minnesota, and it
just doesn't matter. We're just moving two from here, three
from here, and we end up in the same place almost.
But what's the point of redrawing lines because you have
to play for the census, right you should, That's the
way we've always done it. And we're counting to illegals
in the census. Hey, look again, totally disagree with that.
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Totally disagree that illegal immigrants should be counted, that you
should be giving congressional representation based on people illegally being
in the country.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But that's not my choice to make. The courts have
ruled on it now again, different Supreme Court than whatever
that was six years ago, five years ago when that
case was being adjudicated. If you want to take it
back to the Supreme Court and try it again different, great,
have thatt it. I support that all day long. But
I because somebody asked me this earlier today on Twitter.
So what about all the jerrymandering the Democrats have been
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doing for all these years? Every state jerrymanders, we jerrymander.
The districts are highly jerrymandered. Literally, they changed Andre Carson
and Victoria Sparks district this past time because she was
in danger of losing they moved a bunch. They moved
that district to the north to help Victoria Sparks, which
made it more in favor of Andre Carson. And that
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like took her away from like ninety six Street and
push your towards.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Kokomo, right, and that's your neck of the one yea, right,
That's how I know she's your rep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
They're already rigging the system. Let's not act like just
because Indiana's mass might be a little bit better than
the state of Illinois, they also have less population, but
it don't act like it. They're not. They haven't been.
And they do this with the state House seats. They
do it with the state Senate seats. So let's not
act like we're on some moral high horse here in
Indiana where we've not done this. We are participating the
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same way as every other state. Republican states do it,
Democrat states do it. And we sort of have this
gentleman's agreement honor amongst thieves, right, like we'll only screw
each other every ten years. And that's why instead of
Indiana now it's it's not competitive anymore, but used to,
you fight would fight like hell every ten years to
win the House of representative.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You would essentially control very important job absolutely for the
next ten years. You're joining representation.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But we're so shady now in this country that even
the honor amongst thieves agreement won't hold weight anymore. And
I told somebody said, look, it's a pretty hard argument
to make to say we should have dishonest, rotten government
in Indiana more so than we already do, because we
already have dishonest, rotten government just because somebody might, so
we should screw We should screw you in Indiana just
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because somebody in California got screwed. I don't want that
from my government. And I'm because I'm not playing team sport,
because I look at both of these parties essentially as
equally awful. They both fail in governance, they're both for
the crony capitalism. They both are spending us into oblivion.
So unless you're just cheerleading for one team, why would
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you possibly want the election system rigged further than it
already is? Why would you possibly want the elections to
be any more unfair than they already are. I just
I don't want any part of this, because what a
novel concept. I believe in fair honest government, and I
believe in fair, honest elections.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's it's hard to cheerlead for one team when one
team is kind of the cause of all of our
issues in this state.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now Here's what's fascinating. They're sending the thing out in
full force because Charlie Kirk came out and this is
gross man like. Charlie Kirk does not live in our state.
I'm sure he probably at some point has been. But
when Micah bailed on everybody during the property tax fight,
and I had to talk to his legal counsel about
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property taxes because he was too busy palnd around with
Charlie Clark. So Charlie Gray has been to Indiana, but
uh doesn't live here as far as I know, unless
he's taken up residence here in the past what few days,
And so he's on Twitter. Our Indiana House Speaker Todd
Houston and Senate President Rod Bray going to ignore President Trump,
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the majority of their voters and the GOP grassroots across
the country by refusing to redistrict Indiana's congressional seats. Let's
hope they're better than that, first of all, And I
am a low to ever defend the Flanders Boys, Rod
Bray and Todd Houston. They don't work for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump make their boss. He ain't even a constituent.
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You know who is their boss? And a constituent me?
You and me, Kevin. Yeah, you're listen. And this is
a very very disturbing insight that Charlie Kirk gave that
he believes, as do many people, that the job of
elected officials now is to be totally subservient to Donald Trump.
When do you think that started?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I listen, I'm one percent agree with you that this
is why people don't get out of line with Trump,
because you get the Charlie Kirks of the world attack.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You now on social media? So what? Or the Laura
Lumers or the who age? So what? I agree? If
you're let's work through this lot. Not everybody's as tough
as you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, you your bulletproof over here to have flaon Rob,
But you can't care like if you if you're trying
to get reelected, you have to care.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Why. Okay, If you're living okay, let's just play this
out right. If you're living in let's just pick a
suburban district somewhere in Zionsville. Like, let's say you're Becky
Cash in Zionsville, who she's rotten at her job, but
we'll just pick her because she's Zionsville, Brownsburg? Are you thinking, Okay,
my constituents aren't passionate about this. They're not for this.
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I'm not hearing from a ton of people. And like
I said, I just picked a random person. Maybe she's
getting just a flood of emails for this. Danny Lopez whoever, right,
he's well, he's clearly against it, but he's against it.
Do you think that a bunch of people because Laura
Lumer in Zionsville or Brownsburg? Because Laura Lumer or Charlie Kirk,
I mean constituents, but they'd be people from all over
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social media? Cares they do? Why? I don't know? They
can't vote you in or out?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I mean, okay, So to your point, why didn't Mike
I say he was against asb one?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Who cares? You're not voting? What do you care what
the people say?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just come out and say you're against it because you
don't want to ruffle the feathers of the guy ahead
of you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But you see you're Yeah, you're hitting my point, which
is they believe that they can bully people by amplifying
voices that have no say in this process. That is
so ridiculous, and it works, it works, unfortunately. But that
is so ridiculous that you believe that because I can
rile some guy up in Utah, that that that has
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an impact on some person who's a state rep. And Carmel,
what the hell do you care what some guy in
Utah thinks about you? And by the way, Charlie Kirk,
apparently the majority of voters aren't overwhelmingly passionate about this,
based on the amount of Republicans who have already publicly
hopped off.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
The ship, which is which is kudos to those people
to take a stand and go, you know what, I
don't agree with this and do a vocally.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And the GOP grass roots across the country. What does
the GOP grassroots across the country have to do with
fair elections? Why don't we just say it out loud?
It's whose line is it? Anyway? Our gun? Literally whose
line is it? Where the games made up and the
rules don't matter. Charlie Kirk doesn't give a damn about
the state of Indiana. Charlie Kirk doesn't give a damn
about you. He doesn't care about me, he doesn't care
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about Kevin. He cares about some political ideology or smooching
his lips to Donald Trump's butt cheeks and doing whatever
Trump wants. And that's who we're supposed to be subservient to.
That's how we're supposed to govern. G No wonder Jerry
that our country is in the position it's in if
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we have social media people who don't live here and
don't have a vote and don't have a say trying
to bully our lawmakers into making the elections more unfair.
That's what this is about. And that is gross. And
by the way, these people like Charlie Kirk, if you're
a state lawmaker, just do like Nancy did a nightmare
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on Elm Street. If you just turn your back, when
did they finally stop Fred Krueger. When you just say
it's not real and you walk away, that's all you
have to do with these people. Charlie Kirk is not
gonna come here and campaign in house districts, now, He's
not gonna come here campaign incidive districts. He ain't gonna
spend money against you, nothing, none of that. If you
do your job, if you serve the people, if you
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do what's right, you'll keep getting elected. Just use the
Fred Krueger approach, Just say it ain't real and walk away.
All right. So there is apparently there's apparently a poll
going around on this, and one of the questions that
the Capitol Chronicle is reporting being asked in the poll, well,
nothing's unbelievable anymore. But these people, these Republicans, they are
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so gross, they're so shady that they hide in the shadows.
We gotta tell you about this question in this poll
when we come back. Jerry's in for casey ninety three WIBC.
You know the question I would ask Charlie Kirk, since
he's so concerned about the state of Indiana, Now, where
were you during the property tax fight? You know, a
little tweet on your account for the lawmakers to do
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the right thing and not screw people on the property taxes.
That would have been way more helpful than telling to
try to bully lawmakers did further jerrymandering their districts and
further rig the elections. That's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But he just got back from South Park, so he's
kind of feeling himself, right, now, yeah, I mean it's
kind of give it a damn at all about the
state of India. He's only doing it because it's the
hot topic. When the next state shows up, he'll be
on to the next one. It's not that's why these
people like Denny Lopez and whoever gotta stay firm because
it's good. Like you said, it's gonna go away, so
just let it go away. Yeah, and then like these
people don't care about your state. They care about whatever
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their desired result is.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And if he cared it all about Indiana, he would
have been doing all this during the property tax stuff.
All right, it's kenall Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez
in for Casey today. So the Capitol Chronicle, any Capitol
Chronicle has a new report out that apparently lawmakers the
GOP it is believed, is doing some sort of polling
on this redistricting stuff. And they claim they listed three questions. Now,
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I was told there were more parts to this poll.
They pull about the statewide lawmakers Mike at Diego Banks.
There's a whole bunch of components this, but the three
questions that were most interesting. One is do you support
Governor Braun calling a special legislative session for the Indiana
General Assembly to redraw its Congression congressional districts, giving Republicans
a better chance of winning two additional seats in Congress. Ooh,
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so two's the key number there, right, which means if
they go, they're going because there's a bunch of maps
when around. They're going for Carson's district too. Is this
a fear you think?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This is kind of a fear for DC or at
some of these other places start getting additional representation, so
they need to try to get onesies and twosies.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I have no idea at this point. I don't. It's
such a mess. Another question asked Cording Capitol Chronicle, if
your state representative and or state senator voted for redistricting
during a special legislative session, would you be more or
less likely to support them for reelection. So it's not
about what's right, it's about, hey, can we come up
with some sort of data that shows these state reps
and senators? Hey, you might be in the clear on
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this if indeed you do this. And then the third question,
and this is what's most interesting because one of things
people don't realize is once you call a special session,
it's essentially reopening the Indiana General Assembly. They can do
whatever they want. They go for whatever the big topic is.
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But once they're there, you can start introducing any amendments,
any bills, any anything can be filed and it can
go forward. During a special session, the Indiana General Assembly
may address other issues, including property tax reforms passed earlier
this year and a property tax cut for homeowners. If
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you knew the legislature would use a special session to
reduce or eliminate this proper tax cut, would you still
support Governor Brown calling for a special session if you
knew the legislature would use a special session to reduce
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or eliminate this property tax cut. Now, remember the centatebil
one has all this stuff in it. The proper the
cut is like one little speck of it. So they
didn't talk about repealing the whole bill. They're talking about
the one thing that helped you cut, the one little
fraction of it, the three hundred dollars or whatever it is.
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And they're talking about, hey, can we bribe you if
you're mad or concerned about your local school district not
getting nine gajillion dollars like they normally have. Can we
bribe you if we say we'll do this too, we'll
screw the people further if you're some wishy watch because
what they're going for let me tell exactly what they're
doing here. They're looking at the people in the the
Donut County swing districts, the Danny Lopez people who have
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been taken because they voted for a horrible bill. Look,
Center Bill one is a horrible bill, but not because
there's property tax Refor a minute, it's this horrible bill
because there's all sorts of potential tax increases in it.
You notice they didn't say if we eliminating the lit
tax increase. They specifically said getting rid of the property
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tax cut. So what they're gonna try to do with this,
I guarantee you is they're going to go to these
swing district people who will be the deciders on this,
and go, hey, man, if you agree to go along
with this, we'll let you repeal this tax cut and
Senate Bill one. So the local school district of money back,
get off your ass. No way. What other logical reason
could there be for that question to be asked in
a poll about redistricting.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And cut specifically not eliminate the whole bill. Not you
imagine what would happen if they did that. Not only
you just screw this on SB one, but you come
back and call special session and eliminate the one thing
that we got out of this horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But would you be surprised, No, given the fact that
Braun looked at one you were there, Bron looked at
one thous some people and might right to their face,
would you be remotely surprised if they did that?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I would be super disappointed, but not surprised. This is
the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
They're shady, gutless, miserable, dishonest, rotten people.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, and that's the problem, though, And you have too
much control. Absolutely, Le's do whatever the.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Heck you want. Absolutely all right, Uh, Jerry Lopez in
for Casey today. Let's take a break when we come
back with Yeah, we got to talk about California because
Gavin Newsom he is nuts. And we got to talk
about a statement from Little League that just it blew
my mind. I want in It's Kittle a Casey Show,
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ninety three WIBC. Here's a fascinating statement from Little League Baseball,
and we've got to explore it. It's Kittle a Casey
show and Rob Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez in for Casey.
keV is here. So Little League World Series is going
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on now in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and you got the League
Softball World Series going on. And I was I thought
at first when I saw this, this was like one
of those parody accounts, which is very hard on Twitter.
But I mean, apparently this is the real, the real
Delio at little League on Twitter. So this is the real,
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This is the real account. So the statement says, while
Little League International continues to monitor the complexity and ever
evolving world of sports betting, we feel strongly that there
is no place for betting on Little League games or
on any youth sports competition. Little League is a trusted
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place where children are learning the fundamentals of the games
and all the important life lessons that come with having fun,
celebrating teamwork, and playing with integrity. And no one should
be exploiting the success and feelures of children playing the
game they love for their own personal gain. Okay, A
lot to get to on that, Jerry. First of all,
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why did they feel the need to put that out
if they weren't concerned that somebody somewhere was betting on
a little league baseball.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Listen, if I can find who's running that, I will
take little Johnny to have two.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Bases in Hawaii to win by running a half. I
mean you would. There's no way you're betting on a
twelve year old. I mean would I Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Here's the problem is, like, like we've seen now with
professional athlet people are crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sports betters are crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And when Kevin Durant misses a free throw to put
him at thirty points, he gets death threats. What happens
to these kids when something happens and some knucklehead put
fifty thousand dollars on.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
A stupid game. Well, you're right, and there has to
be I mean, look, there's a lot of people who
have very serious gambling addictions, and those people need help.
And obviously, look, I love sports betting. I do a
podcast on it Everywhere with Jason Hammer the Degenerates next Door.
But you wouldn't bet on on little league baseball. There
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is a limit to things that I would bet on.
What about high school football? Because there was no college?
Is where you draw a line. Look, if a guy's
getting paid, I'm betting on I'm okay betting right. I mean,
like the the nil if they got if you got
access to whatever. I think that's where I'm drawing drawing
the line on that. I mean there's something it just
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I mean, not just because it feels, because it is.
There's something off. And we'll get into this hammer when
he comes in. I'd be fascinated to see you're not
saying you would literally do this if you could, would
you you would literally? If?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I mean listen, if I put on ESPN and it's
North Carolina versus Louisiana and it's zero zero, and I
can go to Fandule and take Easiana for some reason,
just to watch, I wouldn't treat it just like a
regular football game. The twelve Jerry and the twelve. I
don't care who wins. I just want to watch for
a reason.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You can't watch little League baseball for the joy of
watching little kids play youth baseball at a high level.
You get any any Americas.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And there's no steals, there's it's a completely different game
than regular baseball.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, now look, I under I totally understand that. If
you're saying, like, hey, the only thing on tonight is hockey,
and I don't know anything about hockey, and I need
a reason to kill me the krack, right, Like, I
get that, But those are grown adult men. Some of
these kids are grown I don't know if you've seen them.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
They made Daniel Monte was like twenty seven, that's right,
he was like twenty seven playing base. Was that bitch
Warmers where you had that piece of famous at I
am twelve?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, I mean obviously, look, you've had teams that have
had was a Taiwan that one year that had there
in the early nineties, the championship strip from them because
they determine those kids were much older, but they weren't adults.
They're like sixteen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, they were like fifteen or sixteen year old. I
think Little League is twelve you so twelve and unders?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right, Yeah. The main one. The thing that's on the
on the the in Williamsport, I'm betting on it. Well,
you can't bet on it yet, but they're thinking about it.
Why they put it out.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That is also what happens if the coach is it
like that creates a whole lot of issues.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
This is my point. If we get ever get to
a point where they legalize betting on twelve year olds.
We might as well just all the coaches are getting arrested.
Pack it in as a society. I mean, we might
as well. Just we might as well just call it
a life and say, I mean, do you bet on
grown men eating hot dogs? Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes you do, Yes you do, it's a grown Well
I didn't, Hammer Dan, I just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'm not that interested enough in it, like my bet
because they're kids. That's why you have the issue. Hammer
and I view betting very different. And we've talked about this,
like I will I really just bet on two things
primarily now football and golf, because I just don't have
time with a two year old. Like I used to
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have all sorts of time, like I could bet on
things because I had the time to get interested in them.
I just don't have time anymore. Like I don't I
don't have a free two hours.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And the betting on kid stuff, man, no, like put
two kids together having crawl, put ten bucks on the
winter I do that. Like go to the you go
to the pacer game and they put the mom on
one side the kid crawls.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm like, give me twenty bucks on the third one
with the red pants. You're not that bad, are you.
I mean, what's what's the most you've ever lost any
on a single bet? On a single bet? So I
this was years ago. We're talking ten years ago, which
would tell you something.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I ran up a really big pot, and I think,
do you mean you ran up a really like I
maybe started with one hundred bucks and I got to
like fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh, because you kept winning?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah yeah, And then I think I put I'll never
forget the game I had IU against North Carolina and
it might have been an EU, and I had EYEU
to win.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I put a thousand bucks. Aren't they lost? Oh? Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Like I'm sick, and like a true degenerate, I'm like,
I'm still up for It's like a stock market, right.
I started with one, but that changed everything for me
because it was just gone and I'm like, oh, this sucks. Yeah,
even though it was money that you never had to
begin with, I did have it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I did withdraw. Yeah, well that's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
thousand that's a that's that'd be a rough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh, it's horrible rough. I kind of stopped betting big
on after that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Bidtime.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I mean, and now I think it's all rigged. Man, well,
and this is and we should have Matt Bear. You're
with me next week, right, yep, Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, so we should have maybe have Matt Bear or
Ryan Hendrick come on and talk about the idea of
the addictive personality because they have the supporting Sobriety podcast.
And look, addiction is addiction. And one of the things,
one of the things I had to recognize, and as
you get older you do is some people just have
addictive personalities. And part of being an adult is to recognize, Hey,
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if I have a tendency for whatever, and I'm going
to participate in society, oh whatever, the thing is, I
got to put up like serious guardrails around myself and
just recognizing that I have an addictive personality that I've
always just I think I bet twenty dollars one time
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on something.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I say, most of your bets are like a buck,
two bucks, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I
mean like I am.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
In my account for the past two years, I'm up
an impressive amount given most of my bets are one
or two dollars. Like I think I'm up like fifty
bucks in my account or forty bucks in my account
over two years, which the idea any better would be
up is impressive. If I bet real money, it would
be like a sizeable amount, but you'd lose them if
you put in real money. Well, that's right, but I
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also recognize, like it would not be fun for me,
Like I could bet ten cents on something get the
same joy whether it was one hundred dollars or ten cents.
It's the pride of winning. Yes, it's the play you
figured out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I still want to bet, but I'm gonna put on
the guardrails that say, look, we're just gonna bet a
buck because I'm still gonna get excited.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right. And then the other thing that that did for
me by never betting real money is I bet a
lot less because it's like if I bet on something,
I have to watch it, right, And it's like, well,
if there's some game and I don't care about it.
And I was just before I was married and had
a kid, I was like betting on things to get
and they would fully invest in it. If I don't
do that, they don't even have to watch the thing.
(26:28):
So I just saved myself three hours. Yeah, but you buddy,
I watch it all. Yeah, yeah, I literally watch it all.
I need to go to uh Jason Hammer School of
no parlays. Yeah, that's what I was. Really soccer bets, brother,
those are soccer bets. All right. I have to talk
about the most government thing ever. I had an experience
last night and I just I'm gonna need you to
like help me work through it because it just sounds
(26:49):
like the most government thing, the most government thing ever.
And someone who is really influential in American history passed
away yesterday, didn't get a ton of attention. We'll talk
about that too. It's Kenill Show ninety three w IBCs. Okay,
I'm gonna need you'd will help me work through event
(27:11):
I was exposed to last night. Helped me make some
sense of it. But before we do that, it's Kenel
and Casey Show. By the way, I'm Rob Jerry Lopez
in for Casey today on our YouTube chat. You can
watch the program on YouTube. Just put Kennel and Casey
in your YouTube bar. People have numbers next to their names, now,
have you noticed this? Yeah? Definitely so. Like our old
(27:32):
pal Whitmer, Stephen Whitmer of Indie Reporter, he's number two.
Somebody is number one? Yeah, Lib Lib Dragon. What does
that mean if you have a number next year? Think
it's the engagement in the chat itself. Oh so if
you if you engage, if you engage like you comment,
you you elevate yourself and you get a number next
(27:53):
to your name. Oh that's interesting. Uh, Drew Drew and
the YouTube chat ass did I know any of the
because last we were talking about the Little Little League
having an issue the statement on betting, and they asked,
did I know any of the Browns were kids that
went to the Little League World Series? Yes, true story.
I was on the state runner up Little League team
in nineteen ninety six. That was before the lit League
(28:14):
World Series teams. But that was the furthest any team
had gone from Brownsburg, not only Brownsburg with the District one.
I was, Yes, it was the starting third baseman. We
were one game when we made it to the championship game.
I saw that game. What was on TV? Right? No?
Are you sure? No?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It was just to get out of there, like the region,
it was like to get out of the state. The
state championship.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Guys, have any studs that went on to play with
several guys that played college baseball. We made it all
the way to the We got in the loser's bracket.
First game, came all the way back, won every single game,
beat the team that won the state championship, and then
lost in the second game. You had to beat them
twice and we lost. I was I was great. It
(28:53):
sounds like I used to be a stud back what
I used to be. That's the story of my life.
I used to be everything is I used to be,
and then I grew up. Anyway, Okay, so let's talk
about what Steven do not spam the YouTube chat to
become number one? Okay. So I went to the uh
the town the town board meeting last night over there
in Brownsburg, and they finally had the big reveal on
(29:16):
all the people that were allegedly craving the one hundred
million dollar Amphitheater Rex Center. These people just center, their
eyes just light up when you walk in. Oh yeah,
by the way, the great thing about the town council
meeting now is people just bring me Arby's coupons. That's
multiple people brought me that. The Arby's coupons came out
in the mail yesterday and the little flyer thing that
(29:38):
comes out and multiple people yesterday in anticipation me being there,
they brought me the RB's coupon sheet, So I have enough.
I can do damage for another month based on what
I got yesterday. Infinite cheat code, that's right. So they
had the big reveal. So this is this is the
most government thing ever. So Brownsberg is a town of
about thirty thousand people now and Jerry, would you like
(30:01):
to guess? This was between online solicitation of the form
like Levisher comments whether you want this one hundred million
dollar monstrosity and they had multiple in person meetings, So
soliciting online for a month and then multiple in person
meetings in a town of thirty thousand people. Would you
like to guess the number? keV? You can participate in
this as well, prices right, rules, you go over, you lose.
(30:23):
In a town of thirty thousand people, How many citizens
do you think? Not four against just simply filled out
the form offering their commentary on whether they wanted this thing.
Would you like to guess the number? Five thousand, five thousand?
Jerry's in at five thousand, Kevin, would you like to
guess the number? Four hundred you both lose because you
are both over two hundred and thirteen out of thirty
(30:45):
thousand people that is, and that's not even some people
filled out who don't even live in the town. Oh
come on, you're looking at less than half of one
percent of the populace even filled out the form. And
then they use this like later on the like, Okay,
people accepted it. This is the information they're working off of.
Oh my gosh, thirty thousand people. We're talking something that
(31:05):
cost one hundred million dollars they're offering they're working off of. Now,
keep in mind, it was basically like fifty to fifty
of people who wanted it versus didn't. So you're looking
at less than one hundred people, zero point three percent
of the population over a month's period of time, cared
enough to even fill out the thing that said they
(31:26):
wanted it. And yet they're having some robust debate discussion
who knows what is going to ensue over the coming
weeks and months over whether they should spend one hundred
million dollars on something that want Basically one hundred people
voted on or suggested or what yes, and they put
(31:49):
it on the internet. You didn't even have to go
to anything you said to click and say I want it.
I have the right to be outraged over that, don't.
I like, this is the most government thing ever. I
mean ridiculous that they would even take it in consideration.
One hundred votes out of thirty thousand people, Yes, thank you,
Like we need more participation if we're going to take
this seriously. But this is happening everywhere. Were these people,
(32:10):
these people being our governing boards in cities and towns.
They just want something. They want to be able to say,
look at what we did, look at what we gave you.
It's happening at the state level, it's happening at the
federal level. Two, it's not because people are clamoring for it.
There may be a very loud, super does this sound familiar?
(32:32):
There may be a very loud, super vocal minority trying
to get people to do something. Charlie Kirk District, thank you.
But the majority of people don't even care enough to respond.
And yet we're wasting all this time. They told me
at one of these meetings they had spent three hundred
thousand dollars on the design process of this whole thing.
(32:53):
To show it to the people to ask him if
they wanted it, three hundred thousand dollars to have one
hundred people, maybe maybe one hundred people say they want it.
But yet every year we have to have a debate
about whether we should raise the water and sewer rate
because there's apparently no money for that. Right But somewhere
they're gonna find one hundred million dollars for an amphitheater,
(33:14):
rex center, and aquatic center, and one hundred thousand dollars
just to ask if you like it. The property tax
rate in this community has stayed relatively flat for ten years,
so there's no there's no ability to cut property taxes.
We're so start for money. But yet somehow we're gonna
move heaven and Earth and mental pretzel ourselves into where
we're gonna come with one hundred million dollars for all
(33:35):
of this other stuff that one hundred people care enough
to fill out and say they wanted.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, you can always just repeal the property property tax
cut in SB one if he does a special session,
and then you got some more money there, you.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Go, All right, it's Kettil Casey show. Somebody famous, Well
is infamous? Bad? Yeah? Is it? I think Okay, what
are you if you're if you did something historic but
you're not really well known or famous for it, what
do we call that? Like you you were a part
of something very important to change human history, but you
(34:11):
don't get the like people don't who filmed the moon landing?
Nobody knows who that guy's at? Well was that the
second guy that was on the moon. Wasn't his name?
Look it's uh Bill Neil's order, Yeah, Neil Neil, Neil
Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
There was other people there. There was a third guy, somebody,
somebodybody filmed. No, well, no, didn't somebody have to stay
on the ship. That was the deal, right, we call
that guy.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Look, let's look this up right now, there was a
third guy who had to stay on the ship. Three
guys who landed on the moon. Let's see if AI
is that good? If I put three guys who landed
on the moon. Have you already looked this up? I did? Yeah?
And is that what you entered? Michael? Well, it was
the Wikipedia link. Michael Collins, What did you enter to
get you directly to that third guy moonlanding? Okay, so
(34:55):
that's how good AI is now? And what's his name,
Michael Collins? Does anybody never heard? Right? Okay, this is
the Michael Collins Award. That's what we're gonna start calling
because think about in elementary school, high school, college news reports.
Everybody knows what did they do? Rock paper scissors? Like,
he got screwed and forgot, and he has forgotten in history,
(35:17):
and he took all the risks that the rest of
those people took. He got on the ship, he went
up to the moon, he had to come back to earth.
Did Michael Collins get book deals? Speaking deals? Is he?
Does he have you know, institutions named after him? No,
So we will now call this the Michael Collins Award.
Going forward, Jeff Bezos' mother passed away. She was I
(35:40):
think seventy eight years old. She had been ill for
quite some time. But Jeff Bezos' mother and I had
no idea about this, gave him the money in nineteen
ninety five to start Amazon. Oh wow, so she had money.
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was the and it
was like Trump. You know, my father gave me a
small loan of one million dollars in the seventies, which
(36:04):
was you know who knows how much that is today.
But Jeff bezos mother and I had no idea about this.
There would have been no Amazon had she not invested
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars her and her husband.
I believe her husband was not Jeff Bezos' biological father,
but they invested two hundred fifty thousand dollars in nineteen
ninety five in him in Amazon or what became for
(36:25):
him to start what became Amazon, became a billionaire, and
he I saw an interview that he gave where he
basically said, I had to make Amazon work because I
could not stand the thought of letting my mother down.
Like it wasn't even about him. It was like, they
gave me all this money, and this has to work,
and I could not run the risk of losing my parents' money.
And obviously Amazon is this societal juggernaut earth, as you said,
(36:49):
multi billion dollar company. He's one of the two or
three richest people in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And it all started because his obscure mother gave him
two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Fifty thousand dollars. What's the most amount money you're ever
gave you for anything? Oh? Man, we're not. Yeah, I
don't even know. We're not talking about any chunk of change.
Like they never give you money like buy a house.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So they've passed on life lessons to me. That's what
I got. Those are priceless, rop Those are priceless. Well,
they literally came over on a boat for you. Yeah, yeah,
I mean they did their they did their part. They
didn't give you anything financially, but they she.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Can hold it over. I didn't have to come over here,
did they did? She did? She used to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Did your mom ever look at you and go, I
didn't have to come over here if you were misbehavior?
And now that I'm older, I'm like, wow, you left
everything behind it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Come over here. You don't owe me anything. Did you
when she said that to you in the moment when
you were a kid, did you brush that off when
she was like yes, I did. Yeah, you didn't understand it.
I was like, nobody asked you to, because what a
card to say. You know, I literally got on a
boat and risk my life for you.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You could be in communism, brother, Yeah, all right, let's
take a break.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Jerry's in for Casey. When we come back, Tom Labianco
is going to join us. He is the guy who
broke the AI porn Pornngate story. He's had several updates,
a lot of moving parts on that will get the
latest on what's going on in the allegations that AI
porn was viewed and shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office.
It's Kenny Casey Show the three duple you have you
seem
You can't even begin to make up out rotten. These
Republicans are who run this state, and boy, redistricting is
front and center to show you all you need to know.
We'll get to it here in a second. It's Kenell
and Casey show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. Our old
pal Jerry Lopez Indie Spanglish on Twitter in her place.
(00:22):
Before we get to the whole, the all the big
moving parts now on redistricting here in Indiana. Coming up
ten o'clock. Tom Labianco will be with us. He's the
guy who broke the AI Porngate story. He's providing regular
updates as he talks to various sources, and he's got
a couple of big updates on that. So we speak
with him today at ten o'clock. All right, So it
(00:46):
came out last night. Jake Sherman broke this at Jake
Sherman on Twitter, and now the Indiana Capitol Chronicle has
a big amongst others have big articles on it as well.
That the pressure is mounting because so many Republicans in
the House and Senate here in the state of Indiana
are coming out saying the obvious, which is this is
(01:08):
it relates to re districting completely just partisan politics. There's
zero reason we can even lie to you and try
to make up a reason we would need to do
it for anything other than that. And we have seen
numerous members of the House and Senate say we're completely
out on this. And it was believed, as we talked
to NICKI Kelly yesterday, that momentum was mounting that there
(01:29):
will not even be a special session called due to
a lack of support for this. And apparently the White
House got w into this, and now they have summoned
the Indiana General Assembly, the Republicans to the White.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
House, come to the Principal's office. That's what it sounds like.
It makes no sense that we would even consider doing
this in Indiana. We don't need to do it. We
have a huge supermajority, there's no need to redraw any
lines that The problem is they just want every other
stayed to be locking step and it just doesn't work
for certain states.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's no need. Well, it's a numbers game. And I
am sure to some level when the Trump administration first
went down this rabbit hole, which was to begin the
process with Texas, see Ohio has to do it, there's
some obligation, like legal obligation Ohio has because of the
way there is their constitution, their state government is set up.
(02:18):
They have to do this they and they do this
on this way every set of cycles. But with places
like Texas, I'm sure once Texas went forward, they knew
California would respond, We'll get to California here in just
a moment, because they had a whole hullabaloo yesterday, and
then the Trump administration started doing math in their head,
(02:40):
who are not only reliable Republican governors, but reliably Republican
states that we think we can get a B or
C out of them? And in their mind, the numbers,
if they got everybody to cooperate, would work in their favor.
The problem is if one or more of these states
like Indiana appeared, appears whatever to be going down, don't
(03:02):
do what you think they're gonna do, then the whole
thing falls apart and you could theoretically end up actually
losing seats because of what California can actually do well.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And to your point yesterday, once Indiana does it, California's next.
The Ohio goes in Wisconsin, goes in Minnesota, and it
just doesn't matter. We're just moving two from here, three
from here, and we end up in the same place almost.
But what's the point of redrawing lines because you have
to play for the census, right you should, That's the
way we've always done it. And we're counting to illegals
in the census. Hey, look again, totally disagree with that.
(03:32):
Totally disagree that illegal immigrants should be counted, that you
should be giving congressional representation based on people illegally being
in the country.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But that's not my choice to make. The courts have
ruled on it now again, different Supreme Court than whatever
that was six years ago, five years ago when that
case was being adjudicated. If you want to take it
back to the Supreme Court and try it again different, great,
have thatt it. I support that all day long. But
I because somebody asked me this earlier today on Twitter.
So what about all the jerrymandering the Democrats have been
(04:03):
doing for all these years? Every state jerrymanders, we jerrymander.
The districts are highly jerrymandered. Literally, they changed Andre Carson
and Victoria Sparks district this past time because she was
in danger of losing they moved a bunch. They moved
that district to the north to help Victoria Sparks, which
made it more in favor of Andre Carson. And that
(04:25):
like took her away from like ninety six Street and
push your towards.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Kokomo, right, and that's your neck of the one yea, right,
That's how I know she's your rep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
They're already rigging the system. Let's not act like just
because Indiana's mass might be a little bit better than
the state of Illinois, they also have less population, but
it don't act like it. They're not. They haven't been.
And they do this with the state House seats. They
do it with the state Senate seats. So let's not
act like we're on some moral high horse here in
Indiana where we've not done this. We are participating the
(04:54):
same way as every other state. Republican states do it,
Democrat states do it. And we sort of have this
gentleman's agreement honor amongst thieves, right, like we'll only screw
each other every ten years. And that's why instead of
Indiana now it's it's not competitive anymore, but used to,
you fight would fight like hell every ten years to
win the House of representative.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You would essentially control very important job absolutely for the
next ten years. You're joining representation.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But we're so shady now in this country that even
the honor amongst thieves agreement won't hold weight anymore. And
I told somebody said, look, it's a pretty hard argument
to make to say we should have dishonest, rotten government
in Indiana more so than we already do, because we
already have dishonest, rotten government just because somebody might, so
we should screw We should screw you in Indiana just
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because somebody in California got screwed. I don't want that
from my government. And I'm because I'm not playing team sport,
because I look at both of these parties essentially as
equally awful. They both fail in governance, they're both for
the crony capitalism. They both are spending us into oblivion.
So unless you're just cheerleading for one team, why would
(06:04):
you possibly want the election system rigged further than it
already is? Why would you possibly want the elections to
be any more unfair than they already are. I just
I don't want any part of this, because what a
novel concept. I believe in fair honest government, and I
believe in fair, honest elections.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's it's hard to cheerlead for one team when one
team is kind of the cause of all of our
issues in this state.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now Here's what's fascinating. They're sending the thing out in
full force because Charlie Kirk came out and this is
gross man like. Charlie Kirk does not live in our state.
I'm sure he probably at some point has been. But
when Micah bailed on everybody during the property tax fight,
and I had to talk to his legal counsel about
(06:50):
property taxes because he was too busy palnd around with
Charlie Clark. So Charlie Gray has been to Indiana, but
uh doesn't live here as far as I know, unless
he's taken up residence here in the past what few days,
And so he's on Twitter. Our Indiana House Speaker Todd
Houston and Senate President Rod Bray going to ignore President Trump,
(07:13):
the majority of their voters and the GOP grassroots across
the country by refusing to redistrict Indiana's congressional seats. Let's
hope they're better than that, first of all, And I
am a low to ever defend the Flanders Boys, Rod
Bray and Todd Houston. They don't work for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump make their boss. He ain't even a constituent.
(07:35):
You know who is their boss? And a constituent me?
You and me, Kevin. Yeah, you're listen. And this is
a very very disturbing insight that Charlie Kirk gave that
he believes, as do many people, that the job of
elected officials now is to be totally subservient to Donald Trump.
When do you think that started?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I listen, I'm one percent agree with you that this
is why people don't get out of line with Trump,
because you get the Charlie Kirks of the world attack.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You now on social media? So what? Or the Laura
Lumers or the who age? So what? I agree? If
you're let's work through this lot. Not everybody's as tough
as you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, you your bulletproof over here to have flaon Rob,
But you can't care like if you if you're trying
to get reelected, you have to care.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Why. Okay, If you're living okay, let's just play this
out right. If you're living in let's just pick a
suburban district somewhere in Zionsville. Like, let's say you're Becky
Cash in Zionsville, who she's rotten at her job, but
we'll just pick her because she's Zionsville, Brownsburg? Are you thinking, Okay,
my constituents aren't passionate about this. They're not for this.
(08:38):
I'm not hearing from a ton of people. And like
I said, I just picked a random person. Maybe she's
getting just a flood of emails for this. Danny Lopez whoever, right,
he's well, he's clearly against it, but he's against it.
Do you think that a bunch of people because Laura
Lumer in Zionsville or Brownsburg? Because Laura Lumer or Charlie Kirk,
I mean constituents, but they'd be people from all over
(09:00):
social media? Cares they do? Why? I don't know? They
can't vote you in or out?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I mean, okay, So to your point, why didn't Mike
I say he was against asb one?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Who cares? You're not voting? What do you care what
the people say?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just come out and say you're against it because you
don't want to ruffle the feathers of the guy ahead
of you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But you see you're Yeah, you're hitting my point, which
is they believe that they can bully people by amplifying
voices that have no say in this process. That is
so ridiculous, and it works, it works, unfortunately. But that
is so ridiculous that you believe that because I can
rile some guy up in Utah, that that that has
(09:38):
an impact on some person who's a state rep. And Carmel,
what the hell do you care what some guy in
Utah thinks about you? And by the way, Charlie Kirk,
apparently the majority of voters aren't overwhelmingly passionate about this,
based on the amount of Republicans who have already publicly
hopped off.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
The ship, which is which is kudos to those people
to take a stand and go, you know what, I
don't agree with this and do a vocally.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And the GOP grass roots across the country. What does
the GOP grassroots across the country have to do with
fair elections? Why don't we just say it out loud?
It's whose line is it? Anyway? Our gun? Literally whose
line is it? Where the games made up and the
rules don't matter. Charlie Kirk doesn't give a damn about
the state of Indiana. Charlie Kirk doesn't give a damn
about you. He doesn't care about me, he doesn't care
(10:22):
about Kevin. He cares about some political ideology or smooching
his lips to Donald Trump's butt cheeks and doing whatever
Trump wants. And that's who we're supposed to be subservient to.
That's how we're supposed to govern. G No wonder Jerry
that our country is in the position it's in if
(10:42):
we have social media people who don't live here and
don't have a vote and don't have a say trying
to bully our lawmakers into making the elections more unfair.
That's what this is about. And that is gross. And
by the way, these people like Charlie Kirk, if you're
a state lawmaker, just do like Nancy did a nightmare
(11:04):
on Elm Street. If you just turn your back, when
did they finally stop Fred Krueger. When you just say
it's not real and you walk away, that's all you
have to do with these people. Charlie Kirk is not
gonna come here and campaign in house districts, now, He's
not gonna come here campaign incidive districts. He ain't gonna
spend money against you, nothing, none of that. If you
do your job, if you serve the people, if you
(11:26):
do what's right, you'll keep getting elected. Just use the
Fred Krueger approach, Just say it ain't real and walk away.
All right. So there is apparently there's apparently a poll
going around on this, and one of the questions that
the Capitol Chronicle is reporting being asked in the poll, well,
nothing's unbelievable anymore. But these people, these Republicans, they are
(11:50):
so gross, they're so shady that they hide in the shadows.
We gotta tell you about this question in this poll
when we come back. Jerry's in for casey ninety three WIBC.
You know the question I would ask Charlie Kirk, since
he's so concerned about the state of Indiana, Now, where
were you during the property tax fight? You know, a
little tweet on your account for the lawmakers to do
(12:12):
the right thing and not screw people on the property taxes.
That would have been way more helpful than telling to
try to bully lawmakers did further jerrymandering their districts and
further rig the elections. That's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But he just got back from South Park, so he's
kind of feeling himself, right, now, yeah, I mean it's
kind of give it a damn at all about the
state of India. He's only doing it because it's the
hot topic. When the next state shows up, he'll be
on to the next one. It's not that's why these
people like Denny Lopez and whoever gotta stay firm because
it's good. Like you said, it's gonna go away, so
just let it go away. Yeah, and then like these
people don't care about your state. They care about whatever
(12:46):
their desired result is.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And if he cared it all about Indiana, he would
have been doing all this during the property tax stuff.
All right, it's kenall Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez
in for Casey today. So the Capitol Chronicle, any Capitol
Chronicle has a new report out that apparently lawmakers the
GOP it is believed, is doing some sort of polling
on this redistricting stuff. And they claim they listed three questions. Now,
(13:12):
I was told there were more parts to this poll.
They pull about the statewide lawmakers Mike at Diego Banks.
There's a whole bunch of components this, but the three
questions that were most interesting. One is do you support
Governor Braun calling a special legislative session for the Indiana
General Assembly to redraw its Congression congressional districts, giving Republicans
a better chance of winning two additional seats in Congress. Ooh,
(13:36):
so two's the key number there, right, which means if
they go, they're going because there's a bunch of maps
when around. They're going for Carson's district too. Is this
a fear you think?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This is kind of a fear for DC or at
some of these other places start getting additional representation, so
they need to try to get onesies and twosies.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I have no idea at this point. I don't. It's
such a mess. Another question asked Cording Capitol Chronicle, if
your state representative and or state senator voted for redistricting
during a special legislative session, would you be more or
less likely to support them for reelection. So it's not
about what's right, it's about, hey, can we come up
with some sort of data that shows these state reps
and senators? Hey, you might be in the clear on
(14:11):
this if indeed you do this. And then the third question,
and this is what's most interesting because one of things
people don't realize is once you call a special session,
it's essentially reopening the Indiana General Assembly. They can do
whatever they want. They go for whatever the big topic is.
(14:31):
But once they're there, you can start introducing any amendments,
any bills, any anything can be filed and it can
go forward. During a special session, the Indiana General Assembly
may address other issues, including property tax reforms passed earlier
this year and a property tax cut for homeowners. If
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you knew the legislature would use a special session to
reduce or eliminate this proper tax cut, would you still
support Governor Brown calling for a special session if you
knew the legislature would use a special session to reduce
(15:12):
or eliminate this property tax cut. Now, remember the centatebil
one has all this stuff in it. The proper the
cut is like one little speck of it. So they
didn't talk about repealing the whole bill. They're talking about
the one thing that helped you cut, the one little
fraction of it, the three hundred dollars or whatever it is.
(15:34):
And they're talking about, hey, can we bribe you if
you're mad or concerned about your local school district not
getting nine gajillion dollars like they normally have. Can we
bribe you if we say we'll do this too, we'll
screw the people further if you're some wishy watch because
what they're going for let me tell exactly what they're
doing here. They're looking at the people in the the
Donut County swing districts, the Danny Lopez people who have
(15:59):
been taken because they voted for a horrible bill. Look,
Center Bill one is a horrible bill, but not because
there's property tax Refor a minute, it's this horrible bill
because there's all sorts of potential tax increases in it.
You notice they didn't say if we eliminating the lit
tax increase. They specifically said getting rid of the property
(16:19):
tax cut. So what they're gonna try to do with this,
I guarantee you is they're going to go to these
swing district people who will be the deciders on this,
and go, hey, man, if you agree to go along
with this, we'll let you repeal this tax cut and
Senate Bill one. So the local school district of money back,
get off your ass. No way. What other logical reason
could there be for that question to be asked in
a poll about redistricting.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And cut specifically not eliminate the whole bill. Not you
imagine what would happen if they did that. Not only
you just screw this on SB one, but you come
back and call special session and eliminate the one thing
that we got out of this horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But would you be surprised, No, given the fact that
Braun looked at one you were there, Bron looked at
one thous some people and might right to their face,
would you be remotely surprised if they did that?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I would be super disappointed, but not surprised. This is
the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
They're shady, gutless, miserable, dishonest, rotten people.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, and that's the problem, though, And you have too
much control. Absolutely, Le's do whatever the.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Heck you want. Absolutely all right, Uh, Jerry Lopez in
for Casey today. Let's take a break when we come
back with Yeah, we got to talk about California because
Gavin Newsom he is nuts. And we got to talk
about a statement from Little League that just it blew
my mind. I want in It's Kittle a Casey Show,
(17:40):
ninety three WIBC. Here's a fascinating statement from Little League Baseball,
and we've got to explore it. It's Kittle a Casey
show and Rob Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez in for Casey.
keV is here. So Little League World Series is going
(18:01):
on now in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and you got the League
Softball World Series going on. And I was I thought
at first when I saw this, this was like one
of those parody accounts, which is very hard on Twitter.
But I mean, apparently this is the real, the real
Delio at little League on Twitter. So this is the real,
(18:27):
This is the real account. So the statement says, while
Little League International continues to monitor the complexity and ever
evolving world of sports betting, we feel strongly that there
is no place for betting on Little League games or
on any youth sports competition. Little League is a trusted
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place where children are learning the fundamentals of the games
and all the important life lessons that come with having fun,
celebrating teamwork, and playing with integrity. And no one should
be exploiting the success and feelures of children playing the
game they love for their own personal gain. Okay, A
lot to get to on that, Jerry. First of all,
(19:13):
why did they feel the need to put that out
if they weren't concerned that somebody somewhere was betting on
a little league baseball.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Listen, if I can find who's running that, I will
take little Johnny to have two.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Bases in Hawaii to win by running a half. I
mean you would. There's no way you're betting on a
twelve year old. I mean would I Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Here's the problem is, like, like we've seen now with
professional athlet people are crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sports betters are crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And when Kevin Durant misses a free throw to put
him at thirty points, he gets death threats. What happens
to these kids when something happens and some knucklehead put
fifty thousand dollars on.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
A stupid game. Well, you're right, and there has to
be I mean, look, there's a lot of people who
have very serious gambling addictions, and those people need help.
And obviously, look, I love sports betting. I do a
podcast on it Everywhere with Jason Hammer the Degenerates next Door.
But you wouldn't bet on on little league baseball. There
(20:15):
is a limit to things that I would bet on.
What about high school football? Because there was no college?
Is where you draw a line. Look, if a guy's
getting paid, I'm betting on I'm okay betting right. I mean,
like the the nil if they got if you got
access to whatever. I think that's where I'm drawing drawing
the line on that. I mean there's something it just
(20:37):
I mean, not just because it feels, because it is.
There's something off. And we'll get into this hammer when
he comes in. I'd be fascinated to see you're not
saying you would literally do this if you could, would
you you would literally? If?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I mean listen, if I put on ESPN and it's
North Carolina versus Louisiana and it's zero zero, and I
can go to Fandule and take Easiana for some reason,
just to watch, I wouldn't treat it just like a
regular football game. The twelve Jerry and the twelve. I
don't care who wins. I just want to watch for
a reason.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You can't watch little League baseball for the joy of
watching little kids play youth baseball at a high level.
You get any any Americas.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And there's no steals, there's it's a completely different game
than regular baseball.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, now look, I under I totally understand that. If
you're saying, like, hey, the only thing on tonight is hockey,
and I don't know anything about hockey, and I need
a reason to kill me the krack, right, Like, I
get that, But those are grown adult men. Some of
these kids are grown I don't know if you've seen them.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
They made Daniel Monte was like twenty seven, that's right,
he was like twenty seven playing base. Was that bitch
Warmers where you had that piece of famous at I
am twelve?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, I mean obviously, look, you've had teams that have
had was a Taiwan that one year that had there
in the early nineties, the championship strip from them because
they determine those kids were much older, but they weren't adults.
They're like sixteen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, they were like fifteen or sixteen year old. I
think Little League is twelve you so twelve and unders?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right, Yeah. The main one. The thing that's on the
on the the in Williamsport, I'm betting on it. Well,
you can't bet on it yet, but they're thinking about it.
Why they put it out.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That is also what happens if the coach is it
like that creates a whole lot of issues.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
This is my point. If we get ever get to
a point where they legalize betting on twelve year olds.
We might as well just all the coaches are getting arrested.
Pack it in as a society. I mean, we might
as well. Just we might as well just call it
a life and say, I mean, do you bet on
grown men eating hot dogs? Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes you do, Yes you do, it's a grown Well
I didn't, Hammer Dan, I just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'm not that interested enough in it, like my bet
because they're kids. That's why you have the issue. Hammer
and I view betting very different. And we've talked about this,
like I will I really just bet on two things
primarily now football and golf, because I just don't have
time with a two year old. Like I used to
(23:09):
have all sorts of time, like I could bet on
things because I had the time to get interested in them.
I just don't have time anymore. Like I don't I
don't have a free two hours.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And the betting on kid stuff, man, no, like put
two kids together having crawl, put ten bucks on the
winter I do that. Like go to the you go
to the pacer game and they put the mom on
one side the kid crawls.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm like, give me twenty bucks on the third one
with the red pants. You're not that bad, are you.
I mean, what's what's the most you've ever lost any
on a single bet? On a single bet? So I
this was years ago. We're talking ten years ago, which
would tell you something.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I ran up a really big pot, and I think,
do you mean you ran up a really like I
maybe started with one hundred bucks and I got to
like fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh, because you kept winning?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah yeah, And then I think I put I'll never
forget the game I had IU against North Carolina and
it might have been an EU, and I had EYEU
to win.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I put a thousand bucks. Aren't they lost? Oh? Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Like I'm sick, and like a true degenerate, I'm like,
I'm still up for It's like a stock market, right.
I started with one, but that changed everything for me
because it was just gone and I'm like, oh, this sucks. Yeah,
even though it was money that you never had to
begin with, I did have it.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I did withdraw. Yeah, well that's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
thousand that's a that's that'd be a rough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh, it's horrible rough. I kind of stopped betting big
on after that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Bidtime.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I mean, and now I think it's all rigged. Man, well,
and this is and we should have Matt Bear. You're
with me next week, right, yep, Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, so we should have maybe have Matt Bear or
Ryan Hendrick come on and talk about the idea of
the addictive personality because they have the supporting Sobriety podcast.
And look, addiction is addiction. And one of the things,
one of the things I had to recognize, and as
you get older you do is some people just have
addictive personalities. And part of being an adult is to recognize, Hey,
(25:00):
if I have a tendency for whatever, and I'm going
to participate in society, oh whatever, the thing is, I
got to put up like serious guardrails around myself and
just recognizing that I have an addictive personality that I've
always just I think I bet twenty dollars one time
(25:22):
on something.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I say, most of your bets are like a buck,
two bucks, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I
mean like I am.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
In my account for the past two years, I'm up
an impressive amount given most of my bets are one
or two dollars. Like I think I'm up like fifty
bucks in my account or forty bucks in my account
over two years, which the idea any better would be
up is impressive. If I bet real money, it would
be like a sizeable amount, but you'd lose them if
you put in real money. Well, that's right, but I
(25:50):
also recognize, like it would not be fun for me,
Like I could bet ten cents on something get the
same joy whether it was one hundred dollars or ten cents.
It's the pride of winning. Yes, it's the play you
figured out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I still want to bet, but I'm gonna put on
the guardrails that say, look, we're just gonna bet a
buck because I'm still gonna get excited.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right. And then the other thing that that did for
me by never betting real money is I bet a
lot less because it's like if I bet on something,
I have to watch it, right, And it's like, well,
if there's some game and I don't care about it.
And I was just before I was married and had
a kid, I was like betting on things to get
and they would fully invest in it. If I don't
do that, they don't even have to watch the thing.
(26:28):
So I just saved myself three hours. Yeah, but you buddy,
I watch it all. Yeah, yeah, I literally watch it all.
I need to go to uh Jason Hammer School of
no parlays. Yeah, that's what I was. Really soccer bets, brother,
those are soccer bets. All right. I have to talk
about the most government thing ever. I had an experience
last night and I just I'm gonna need you to
like help me work through it because it just sounds
(26:49):
like the most government thing, the most government thing ever.
And someone who is really influential in American history passed
away yesterday, didn't get a ton of attention. We'll talk
about that too. It's Kenill Show ninety three w IBCs. Okay,
I'm gonna need you'd will help me work through event
(27:11):
I was exposed to last night. Helped me make some
sense of it. But before we do that, it's Kenel
and Casey Show. By the way, I'm Rob Jerry Lopez
in for Casey today on our YouTube chat. You can
watch the program on YouTube. Just put Kennel and Casey
in your YouTube bar. People have numbers next to their names, now,
have you noticed this? Yeah? Definitely so. Like our old
(27:32):
pal Whitmer, Stephen Whitmer of Indie Reporter, he's number two.
Somebody is number one? Yeah, Lib Lib Dragon. What does
that mean if you have a number next year? Think
it's the engagement in the chat itself. Oh so if
you if you engage, if you engage like you comment,
you you elevate yourself and you get a number next
(27:53):
to your name. Oh that's interesting. Uh, Drew Drew and
the YouTube chat ass did I know any of the
because last we were talking about the Little Little League
having an issue the statement on betting, and they asked,
did I know any of the Browns were kids that
went to the Little League World Series? Yes, true story.
I was on the state runner up Little League team
in nineteen ninety six. That was before the lit League
(28:14):
World Series teams. But that was the furthest any team
had gone from Brownsburg, not only Brownsburg with the District one.
I was, Yes, it was the starting third baseman. We
were one game when we made it to the championship game.
I saw that game. What was on TV? Right? No?
Are you sure? No?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It was just to get out of there, like the region,
it was like to get out of the state. The
state championship.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Guys, have any studs that went on to play with
several guys that played college baseball. We made it all
the way to the We got in the loser's bracket.
First game, came all the way back, won every single game,
beat the team that won the state championship, and then
lost in the second game. You had to beat them
twice and we lost. I was I was great. It
(28:53):
sounds like I used to be a stud back what
I used to be. That's the story of my life.
I used to be everything is I used to be,
and then I grew up. Anyway, Okay, so let's talk
about what Steven do not spam the YouTube chat to
become number one? Okay. So I went to the uh
the town the town board meeting last night over there
in Brownsburg, and they finally had the big reveal on
(29:16):
all the people that were allegedly craving the one hundred
million dollar Amphitheater Rex Center. These people just center, their
eyes just light up when you walk in. Oh yeah,
by the way, the great thing about the town council
meeting now is people just bring me Arby's coupons. That's
multiple people brought me that. The Arby's coupons came out
in the mail yesterday and the little flyer thing that
(29:38):
comes out and multiple people yesterday in anticipation me being there,
they brought me the RB's coupon sheet, So I have enough.
I can do damage for another month based on what
I got yesterday. Infinite cheat code, that's right. So they
had the big reveal. So this is this is the
most government thing ever. So Brownsberg is a town of
about thirty thousand people now and Jerry, would you like
(30:01):
to guess? This was between online solicitation of the form
like Levisher comments whether you want this one hundred million
dollar monstrosity and they had multiple in person meetings, So
soliciting online for a month and then multiple in person
meetings in a town of thirty thousand people. Would you
like to guess the number? keV? You can participate in
this as well, prices right, rules, you go over, you lose.
(30:23):
In a town of thirty thousand people, How many citizens
do you think? Not four against just simply filled out
the form offering their commentary on whether they wanted this thing.
Would you like to guess the number? Five thousand, five thousand?
Jerry's in at five thousand, Kevin, would you like to
guess the number? Four hundred you both lose because you
are both over two hundred and thirteen out of thirty
(30:45):
thousand people that is, and that's not even some people
filled out who don't even live in the town. Oh
come on, you're looking at less than half of one
percent of the populace even filled out the form. And
then they use this like later on the like, Okay,
people accepted it. This is the information they're working off of.
Oh my gosh, thirty thousand people. We're talking something that
(31:05):
cost one hundred million dollars they're offering they're working off of. Now,
keep in mind, it was basically like fifty to fifty
of people who wanted it versus didn't. So you're looking
at less than one hundred people, zero point three percent
of the population over a month's period of time, cared
enough to even fill out the thing that said they
(31:26):
wanted it. And yet they're having some robust debate discussion
who knows what is going to ensue over the coming
weeks and months over whether they should spend one hundred
million dollars on something that want Basically one hundred people
voted on or suggested or what yes, and they put
(31:49):
it on the internet. You didn't even have to go
to anything you said to click and say I want it.
I have the right to be outraged over that, don't.
I like, this is the most government thing ever. I
mean ridiculous that they would even take it in consideration.
One hundred votes out of thirty thousand people, Yes, thank you,
Like we need more participation if we're going to take
this seriously. But this is happening everywhere. Were these people,
(32:10):
these people being our governing boards in cities and towns.
They just want something. They want to be able to say,
look at what we did, look at what we gave you.
It's happening at the state level, it's happening at the
federal level. Two, it's not because people are clamoring for it.
There may be a very loud, super does this sound familiar?
(32:32):
There may be a very loud, super vocal minority trying
to get people to do something. Charlie Kirk District, thank you.
But the majority of people don't even care enough to respond.
And yet we're wasting all this time. They told me
at one of these meetings they had spent three hundred
thousand dollars on the design process of this whole thing.
(32:53):
To show it to the people to ask him if
they wanted it, three hundred thousand dollars to have one
hundred people, maybe maybe one hundred people say they want it.
But yet every year we have to have a debate
about whether we should raise the water and sewer rate
because there's apparently no money for that. Right But somewhere
they're gonna find one hundred million dollars for an amphitheater,
(33:14):
rex center, and aquatic center, and one hundred thousand dollars
just to ask if you like it. The property tax
rate in this community has stayed relatively flat for ten years,
so there's no there's no ability to cut property taxes.
We're so start for money. But yet somehow we're gonna
move heaven and Earth and mental pretzel ourselves into where
we're gonna come with one hundred million dollars for all
(33:35):
of this other stuff that one hundred people care enough
to fill out and say they wanted.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, you can always just repeal the property property tax
cut in SB one if he does a special session,
and then you got some more money there, you.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Go, All right, it's Kettil Casey show. Somebody famous, Well
is infamous? Bad? Yeah? Is it? I think Okay, what
are you if you're if you did something historic but
you're not really well known or famous for it, what
do we call that? Like you you were a part
of something very important to change human history, but you
(34:11):
don't get the like people don't who filmed the moon landing?
Nobody knows who that guy's at? Well was that the
second guy that was on the moon. Wasn't his name?
Look it's uh Bill Neil's order, Yeah, Neil Neil, Neil
Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
There was other people there. There was a third guy, somebody,
somebodybody filmed. No, well, no, didn't somebody have to stay
on the ship. That was the deal, right, we call
that guy.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Look, let's look this up right now, there was a
third guy who had to stay on the ship. Three
guys who landed on the moon. Let's see if AI
is that good? If I put three guys who landed
on the moon. Have you already looked this up? I did? Yeah?
And is that what you entered? Michael? Well, it was
the Wikipedia link. Michael Collins, What did you enter to
get you directly to that third guy moonlanding? Okay, so
(34:55):
that's how good AI is now? And what's his name,
Michael Collins? Does anybody never heard? Right? Okay, this is
the Michael Collins Award. That's what we're gonna start calling
because think about in elementary school, high school, college news reports.
Everybody knows what did they do? Rock paper scissors? Like,
he got screwed and forgot, and he has forgotten in history,
(35:17):
and he took all the risks that the rest of
those people took. He got on the ship, he went
up to the moon, he had to come back to earth.
Did Michael Collins get book deals? Speaking deals? Is he?
Does he have you know, institutions named after him? No,
So we will now call this the Michael Collins Award.
Going forward, Jeff Bezos' mother passed away. She was I
(35:40):
think seventy eight years old. She had been ill for
quite some time. But Jeff Bezos' mother and I had
no idea about this, gave him the money in nineteen
ninety five to start Amazon. Oh wow, so she had money.
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was the and it
was like Trump. You know, my father gave me a
small loan of one million dollars in the seventies, which
(36:04):
was you know who knows how much that is today.
But Jeff bezos mother and I had no idea about this.
There would have been no Amazon had she not invested
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars her and her husband.
I believe her husband was not Jeff Bezos' biological father,
but they invested two hundred fifty thousand dollars in nineteen
ninety five in him in Amazon or what became for
(36:25):
him to start what became Amazon, became a billionaire, and
he I saw an interview that he gave where he
basically said, I had to make Amazon work because I
could not stand the thought of letting my mother down.
Like it wasn't even about him. It was like, they
gave me all this money, and this has to work,
and I could not run the risk of losing my parents' money.
And obviously Amazon is this societal juggernaut earth, as you said,
(36:49):
multi billion dollar company. He's one of the two or
three richest people in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And it all started because his obscure mother gave him
two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Fifty thousand dollars. What's the most amount money you're ever
gave you for anything? Oh? Man, we're not. Yeah, I
don't even know. We're not talking about any chunk of change.
Like they never give you money like buy a house.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So they've passed on life lessons to me. That's what
I got. Those are priceless, rop Those are priceless. Well,
they literally came over on a boat for you. Yeah, yeah,
I mean they did their they did their part. They
didn't give you anything financially, but they she.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Can hold it over. I didn't have to come over here,
did they did? She did? She used to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Did your mom ever look at you and go, I
didn't have to come over here if you were misbehavior?
And now that I'm older, I'm like, wow, you left
everything behind it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Come over here. You don't owe me anything. Did you
when she said that to you in the moment when
you were a kid, did you brush that off when
she was like yes, I did. Yeah, you didn't understand it.
I was like, nobody asked you to, because what a
card to say. You know, I literally got on a
boat and risk my life for you.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You could be in communism, brother, Yeah, all right, let's
take a break.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Jerry's in for Casey. When we come back, Tom Labianco
is going to join us. He is the guy who
broke the AI porn Pornngate story. He's had several updates,
a lot of moving parts on that will get the
latest on what's going on in the allegations that AI
porn was viewed and shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office.
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