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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, I wasn't going to start the show taking
a colossal dump on the Secretary of State. I was
gonna hold it off for a few segments. But this
morning has pissed me off to the point or the
only thing that's going to make me feel better is
to do our old time favorite here on the program,
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and is to point out what a colossal grifter scumbag
Diego Morales is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So, Jerry, is it all right if we start with that? Hey, listen,
the listeners don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The best thing that happened to Indianapolis today was you
being locked out of the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Because now you are so.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Fired up, all curve balls were coming out fire in
this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So it is the Kenneling Casey Show. I'm robbed. Casey's
out today.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Jerry Lopez at Indy Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey,
keV is here. Let me tell you about my little
drive in shall wait, let's do it?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So for years I have made the same track to
the greater Downtown area and for numerous years, and the
nine years I've worked here, the first seven getting out
of my house was of relative ease. It was a
fairly simple thing. I live in proximity to the Brownsburg
High School, and a couple of years ago they decided, well,
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we've got some issues with parking, and we've got some
issues with people getting in and traffic getting into the
high school. Said, see it every day, doesn't seem like
that big of a deal. No, no, there's major issues.
And now they've created this second road to get into
the high school. Where before there was no traffic moved
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in a relatively there was some minor delays, right, you
got hundreds of people expected driving, and yes, that's great,
but there was no It was not like the Dan
Ryan Expressway at rush hour in the city of Chicago.
And now since government intervened itself and created this second road, which,
by the way, not mine but people around me. Back's
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right up into these people's backyards. Basically, wow, it is
like a mile long stretch of traffic every single day
to get into this high school. And now it's affecting
everybody in the area. No problem. Before, everything moving relatively smooth.
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Now it's just just a line of people and heaven forbid,
you get at one of these four way stops where
you just sit. So I had that experience this morning.
Then about a half mile down the road, the train
decided to come. And so there I sat with the train,
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which I didn't even know we still had trains in
America anymore. I didn't even know that was still a thing.
But this was the Casey Jones Express. And I sat
there for another five to ten minutes. So now I'm
about fifteen minutes in and I'm less than a mile
I'm less than one mile from my house, and I'm
fifteen minutes in.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's not DC's, this is Browns Browns.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh yes, oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And so then on top of that, of course you
get your normal joy of every road being closed in
the greater downtown area.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You use your experience.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, absolutely, you can't go anywhere without some road being
under construction and taking you, you know, a good ten
to fifteen minutes once you get off the Interstate seventy
exit of your choosing to get to your desired location.
So what what is normally or used to be a
thirty minute trip, Now, thanks to Joe Hawks, that is
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a forty minute trip. And now thanks to the men's
of members that run the Brownsburg School Corporation and the
Town of Brownsburg, it was now a fifty minute plus
trip to get to work today.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
How about you, Jerry, It was not that bad at all.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, and you're coming from Noblesville, coming from Noblesville now
on Earth.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, was not that bad. It was not that bad. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So then I get to work and for some reason,
and it's always the weekend people. It's always the weekend people.
I use the same studio every morning, every single morning.
It's booked in the computer in our little register a studio.
Oh blah blah blah. My name is in there, the
Kendall and Casey show every day eight to nine.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's us. I go to open the door. It's locked.
This is after waiting in traffic for the door's locked.
Little morning, Little morning, And.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I said to somebody in there, i'mp peering, appearing no nobody.
So that means, first of all, why you would shut
the door on your way out when the door is
supposed to be open so that somebody can walk in.
I don't know, but somebody had to on their way
out the door decide, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm gonna lock this thing from the inside.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
A deliberate act of malice and or stupidity either either one.
It once again, Jerry, it ruined my morning, but.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It made everybody else's better because I cannot wait to
get into this Diego stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So so so two things with our old our old
pal grifters rs over at Morales Industries. So I saw
this post and it was from Diego.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That are our comptroller. Her name is Elisena Shalla. Every
year I think she has some big shindigs.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She has a very palatial farming estate out in Boone
County and they have some big Republican hey Rube, get
together whatever lawn party.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We're all that. Yes, thank you, I think that's what
it's called. And this is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The connected, yeah, the wealthy, the everything we aren't right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I was invited, Oh you were invited? Yeah, well shoot
hot Dagg didn't go. They would have loved to have
seen me. There was I was during the Colts game.
Went to the Colts game. Starredy was right around the
same time. One two, three, four five is Stadium was closed.
So I thought about you and I walked. I walked in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I went, oh, it's closed. Rob could have called this.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So a beautiful August, beautiful day afternoon. Yeah, no no
rain in the whether or not rained on or not
doused in water.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
First game, preseason home game. You know, it's estimated we.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Spent on additional one hundred million dollars plus for that
retractable roof. And so it's I think what they've counted
less than forty times in the history of the stadium
the roof has been open. And then on a you're
talking about a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Clothes Yeah, mid to one o'clock Saturday, Yeah, roof is closed.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Okay, very good, but that's what a lawn party was Saturday,
early after very good. But my point on this is
it is the people who know what's going on that's
at this thing, correct, right, if you're invited to that thing,
you are paying attention, which means you would know, you
would be aware of the repetitive bull crap that this guy,
Diego Morales proves provides on a regular basis, whether it
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is the hiring of family members, whether it is the
no bid contracts, whether it is disappearing to a foreign
country for ten days, whether it is refusal to say
who paid for the trip to the foreign country for
ten days, whether it is then making a ridiculous claim
like I paid the money back then refusing to provide
any proof whatsoever you paid them. But all of the
things associated Diego Morales, everybody there would have known what
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he is and what he's doing. Yeah, at this point,
there's no way to act like you don't know if
you're especially in that kind of circle.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And yet, because he posted about this, what a great opportunity,
What a great time Diego had, Because so Diego one
got invited by this woman right who if anybody would
know the bull crap he's pulling, she has an office
very near his, she's in the state House.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
She would know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So one, they invited him to the thing. And two,
it's just one picture after another of him with connected
Republican people, which means not one damn person stopped and said, hey,
can you just cut the bs and tell us who
paid for your trip to India? Not one person there
did what I did, which is and they don't even
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have to take an entire day to do it. They're
at the thing anyway, Not one person said, hey, we
all know you're totally full of it and that you
didn't pay that money back. Why don't you cut the
crap and tell us exactly what went on in India?
And who paid for it, and Buddy Raju's mysterious eighty
thousand dollars contract and what he was doing there. Why
a venture capitalist went with you to India? Not one
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person did that, And so you know, I was thinking
about this.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I thought, as easy as Diego is to loathe, as
easy as Diego is to despise, because he is a grifter,
he is a scumbag, he is a dirt ball, he
is he is corrupt, he is unethical.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
All of those things are true. But Jerry, you know
where the blame really rests in the Republican Party, because
time after time after time, whether it's Brawn, whether it's Rokeda,
whether it's Micah, whether it's at least Noshella, whether it's
these activist people, they all know what he is. Every
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single person there knows who that guy is. And the
fact that not one of these people, nobody not named
Rob Kendall, will hold this guy accountable, means they're.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Fine with it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's a much bigger problem than the Republican Party, Diego
Morales or the Diego Morales. It is a Republican Party problem.
At this point, Diego Morales is the Republican Party. You
can't separate them because they keep condoning, they keep approving,
they keep saying this behavior is okay by not holding
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him accountable.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, and the other part of that is when when
for people who don't necessarily tune in every single day
and they see these pictures on social media and they
see all these pictures, you're basically condoning all of this
behavior one hundred percent. If we're not holding people accountable,
then you're condoning it. Those are the options, right at
this point. You can't pretend to not see, not hear,
not know what's going on. So if things if the
wheels fall off the wagon, well aren't you responsible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If you see the wheels wobbling and you don't say anything,
then that's on you too.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, at least a shallow of the state controller. You're
a joke. You're a disgrace. That's ridiculous because she certainly
knows what he is. Aaron Houchin, who I see in
this photo? Professional office hop for Aaron Houchin. You're a joke,
You're a disgrace. This is ridiculous that everybody knows what's
going on with this guy. Everybody knows what's going on
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with this guy, and no one in the Republican.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Even ask questions. We'll even ask. No, we're not asking
you if you do full blown investment. We just ask
in public. Yeah, how hard would it have been?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Elis Na Shala, who, by the way, was given her position.
She didn't earn it when the current or the former
auditor quit. She was because she was a holcome person.
She was in the Hulcomb Ads party insider given this position,
by the way, lost at the convention for state treasurer.
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And then what was her response on why did I lose?
Give me a position? Gimme, gimme, gimme. That's who the
Republican Party is. If they won't hold the worst of
them accountable, if nobody will stand up and hold the
worst of them, which we all know, that's what diego
Morales is. If no one will hold the worst among
us accountable, then you are the worst among us.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right, I feel so much better. All Right, we're
off and running, babe. We didn't even get to a
segment one.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I didn't even get to the other thing that
I wanted to scream up, but we'll do that later
on the show. You don't want to use all your
all your ammo in one segment. Right, all right, we'll
take a break. We'll get to all the Trump putin
Russia whatever. It's Kettle Case Show ninety three. WWC.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well you had a bad morning too. I feel bad
that you just let me rant.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
On about that for all that time when you've had
a dramatic event yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, it's uh, I've been deployed twice. It feels
like I'm back in the sandbox. Right now. It's Kendal
and Casey. So I'm Rob. Jerry'son for Casey today. What
happened to you? So I've been on this thing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, I drink a lot of Red Bulls and things
like that, and now I'm just like you know, I'm
gonna go to stop and grab me a fountain soda.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'll get the big when it'll last me the whole show.
Are you still done with the smoking? Yeah? You steve
kept going. We're talking about a month, maybe in a.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Couple of weeks, so people don't know, Jerry, start around
like July eleventh, right before I went to Tampa. Yeah,
the cigarette tax increase reached a point where you said,
this is my price point.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, and then and you're saving all this money and
are you feeling better?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, eat a lot. Now I feel like a little
fat guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah that's I think you just go Most people go
from one vice to the next, right. But anyway, so
you have now one of the things you do is
you get a soda on the regular.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, just grab a soda, grab the big one to
sip on throughout the day or whatever. But I pull
up to the gas station, big sign on the thing
that says no straws.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Any wait, wait, the gas station didn't have any strawstraw
Now I'm looking at this cup. Yeah, and based on
the cup, this is a fairly major Yeah, it's an
extra large. Well I'm saying, but like the retailer, this
is a big box store. Yeah, yeah, you have one
in your neighborhood, right, So I find it fascinating that
they there's not some sort of Amazon type instant feature
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where they can get straws given the relative proximity, alatively
close proximity that another store of the same name would be.
Even if that were, you know, like when I worked
at Arby's in high school, Like if you ran out
of something there were so many Arby's that you could
go like just get you know, there's got to be
another one of those within one mile of where this
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one was exactly. But no, you're you're forced to So
how are you're drinking this? What from like a you're
sipping out of the app.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I gotta take the top off of it. And
this thing is huge.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So there is a chance at some point, like I
will be running to the bath and wipe my shirt
off during this show.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, it's brutal because part of now do you just
do this? Well, let me ask you. Do you do
the same like you get like you just get mountain
dew or whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Time.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so what I do Now this probably is a
character flaw, But whenever I go to a restaurant and
they have the fountain, I mix things together that way.
I feel like I'm getting three or four sodas in
the same like an eight like an eight year old. Yeah,
they called it the suicide. They retreat when you would
do that. But like in my house, I have pepsi,
but I don't have all of these other drinks. But
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I don't want all the calories that are associated with
all these other drinks. So I'll like put diet coke
or diet pepsi as the base, and then you can
mix all these other things and you get like the
super cool Willy Wonka drink that you wouldn't be able
to get anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That is a character flaw. Does that say something horrible
about me? I mean you're living dangerously. Remember you're like
eight or nine.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's like, are you're gonna do the suicide and get
all of them and all of a sudden you're.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The coolest guy on the baseball team.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, So coming up next hour, we have a big
update on a story that we broke on this program,
and that is involving the Sheriff du Bois County, Tom Kleinhelter. So,
if you remember, former state Police Superintendent Doug Carter came
on this program, was with us for an hour and
was talking about this investigation into the sheriff of Dubois County,
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who is a close political ally of Governor Braun, who
was accused in an eighty page probable cause affidavit while
Carter was state superintendent by a decorated state police officer
of missu using commissary money and basically he was paying.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
For his wife to go on trips with him.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Some other things related to the allegations were made that
he was misusing the commissary money and State police felt
like they had a strong case. Carter felt like they
had a strong case. Jeff Heron, the officer who was
putting the problem Cause Affidavid to get I mean, eighty
pages is a lot, right, And then suddenly Braun becomes
the governor, a new State Police superintendent comes in, and
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the special prosecutor decides not to.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Press charges. Yep, these are not the drones you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Some people were like, whoo, that seems like a lot
of red flags going on there. With an eighty page
problem cause affidavit, which was triggered, by the way, by
the State Board of Accounts. This emanated out of another
government entity going to State police.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Carter came in said, look.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think there's a lot of shenanigans potentially going on here,
and then he was most upset. This decorated officer was
punished by state police in regards to this investigation Casey
Smith from the India of Capitol Chronicle has has done
a fabulous deep dive on this.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
She has reached out to bronze people.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
She talked to klein Helter, she talked to this special prosecutor,
Casey Smith is going to be with us at ten
thirty talking about what she found. So in the meantime
we're gonna take a break. When we come back, Josh
Bain of the Indianapoli City County Council will be with us.
He had a fascinating back and forth with a Marion
County Superior Court judge about crime, about how the judges
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are handling dangerous, violent criminals, about letting them out back
out on the street. And we will talk with Josh
about that back and forth that he had with a
Marion County Superior Court judge. Jerry's in for casey ninety three, WIBC.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Who have somebody's fighting for a place to stand, what
decent chab or a help in hand? Whoever, somebody's struggling
to be free looking there, Aysma, you'll see me.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So they had all the green violence and still out
of control of the sea of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The question needs, with all the focus on.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
The mayor and the prosecutor, what role did the judges
play in it? Our next guest, he's trying to get
to the bottom of that ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Jerry Lopez at Eddie Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Josh Bain.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He is a Republican member of the Indianapolis City County
Council and he had a fascinating back and forth with
a member of the Marion County Superior Court. And he
joins us now, and I think he's trying to get
into something interesting, which is with all the focus on
the mayor of the prosecutor, how much of the blame
rests with the judges. Josh Bain joins us now. Josh Bain, Hello, Hey,
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good to be with you. So I'm want to play
you a little bit of this. Our old pal Stephen
Whitmer and the fine folks over at Indie Reporter posted
this at Indye Underscore Reporter Underscore, and this was a
back and forth that you had with this Marion County
Superior Court judge Mark Rothenbergen. And before we play this audio,
I want it for you to kind of set this
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up for us. Is that what you were trying to
do here, because you guys at the city County Council,
you fund the public courts. Were you trying to get
into what role the judges play and letting these violent
offenders back out on streets?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah, for sure, because at the end of the day,
it's judges that are accepting plea deals, accepting plea bargains,
setting bail, you know, sitting thing people. So this is
this is really the crux of the argument. I've been
saying this for years that you know, even if we
ever win the prosecutors race here in Marianne County, it's
still a major uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So Rothenberg has been a spirit court judge for a
long time, I think, you know, fifteen sixteen years now,
and you were grilling him on these things. And I'm
just going to play a little bit of this audio
and then we'll sort of do a deep dive because
I thought he said something interesting and I want to
give you a chance to respond to that.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Humanity is difficult to deal with, but you have to
look at the empirical evidence that's in front of you.
When you deal with this. Sometimes you have to make
tough choices, and you have to make those tough choices
as a judge, Remember, as I said, redemption rehabilitation is
the primary goal as set out by the Indiana Constitution,
and we have to keep that in mind in every
sentence we make. Right. It's easy to say, hey, we
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should lock up as many people as possible because our
city is dangerous and dangerous people should be in jail.
I don't disagree with that. I've lived here all my life.
But there's also the presumption of innocence. Everyone is entitled
to a bond by the Indiana Constitution, a reasonable bond.
I would say that our bonds and Marion County are
similar because we've looked at them off many, many times,
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similar to the other counties in the state of Indiana
and the donut counties in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Does he have a case, Josh Bain, remember the Indianapolis
City Ketty Council. Does this judge say, look, I'm just
following the law on the constitutions as it set or
their problems in his theory there.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I think he's following his judicial philosophy. I mean,
you know, when it comes to sentencing people, I'm like, well,
sometimes people just need to be put away because they're ainous,
violent people. And you know the problems with our superior court,
it's with our circuit court as well. I mean, for example,
the next judge that got up and spoke was the
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judge that presided over the death of the five year
old girl, Zara, and she literally sat in a courtroom
and told this mom to quit making complaints to dcs
about the dad. And then the dad tortured the five
year old girl shortly after that and killed her. So
and there's no accountability like these judges. You know, no
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one can hold them accountable. We can't hold them accountable
on the City County Council to a large extent. You know,
I've been doing a deep dive because you know, the
only time these judges even come before us is during
the budget season. And even Judge Rothenberg, you know, was
getting sassy with me at the beginning of my questioning
because he's like, you know, your questions don't have anything
to do with the budget, even though all the Democrat
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councilors before me were asking about things that didn't have
to do with the budget. He knew where this was going.
And that's why from the very beginning, you know, he was,
you know, trying to be you know, Coffee was trying
to be you know, contentful and everything, and you know,
we're just not going to put up with it anymore.
At least the Republicans aren't, I mean, and at least
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I'm not. We're done saying that these judges have all
these independence and everything that they're going to have to
start being held accountable.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Josh Bain is our guest. He's a Republican member of
the Indianapolis City County Council. We're talking about the court
system and the role they may be playing and out
of control violence in the city of Indianapolis. So these
judges are explained to our audience because many people this,
you know, this is their first introduction to these sort
of things, which is why it's great that we're able
to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
These judges are elected, so they are appointed, they are
were appointed.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
We have a different system here in Marion County. You know,
the state has stepped in a few different times when
it comes to Marion County judicial selection. And then there's
a presiding judge and you know, they have terms in office.
So Judge Rothenberg is currently the presiding judge.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Appointed by Okay, so you've gone where I wanted you
to go. They are appointed by who.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
So there's this committee of people made up of like
appointments from the state legislature and such, and then there
has to be a political partisan balance to it as well.
And that's why you know here in Marion County we
don't really do direct elections for all of these judges.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
So I think that's where some people's frustration is. And you,
if you have I don't know if you intended to
do it or not, but you are doing great for
the radio segment. You're going exactly where I want you
to go, Josh Bain, which is if outside influences have
control over who is appointed, we can't even really blame
the voters for this, as you're saying, people at two
hundred US Washington, our state capital, have a role in this.
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Why aren't we getting better people in this position? What
do we have to do to get people who will
take this, I guess more seriously for lack of a
better term, when it comes to keeping violent offenders behind bars?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What do we have to do?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, and I'll say this, I'm someone that's pretty much
done a complete one eighty on this. When I was
first elected to city County Council, like six this years ago.
I would always tell my state representatives and state senators that,
you know, people in Indianapolis, they need to live with
the consequences of their actions. You know, there are retention
votes for judges, but I mean, you know, we can
all laugh at that. There's no such thing as a
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retention vote. But you know, I always told them. You know,
there was one time there was a bill for the
governor to appoint the chief of IMPD, you know, and
I was like, hey, that's too far. People need to
live with the consequences of their actions. They vote for this,
they vote to retain these judges, let them live with it.
And then over the past year, I've done a one
eighty where it's like people are not living with it,
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people are dying with it. We have kids dying, kids
being tortured in their homes because of this nonsense that
you know, there's just no accountability. So that's why I've
been doing a deep dive this year. We have still
about a month or so before the budget will come back,
and we're going to have time to offer amendments and
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when it comes to their like pay their staffing, pay,
all that set by state statute. But they receive a
lot of money in grants, rob and I mean a
lot of money, and it does look like we have
some discretion over those grants. So it's one of those
things where if you want these grant dollars, we're going
to have to start seeing some accountability. And one other
(24:40):
thing I want to touch on too, because it's getting
in the news so much, is the juvenile crime in
our city is obviously out of control, and our chief
has been asking for years for them to share data
for kids. For juveniles. You know, if you pull over
a seventeen year old, they could be on probation, they
(25:03):
could have a terrible criminal history. We don't and an
imp the officer who's making that detention, is not able
to look at that information. They do not receive the information.
The courts do not share any kind of information like that,
even though they're allowed to like they're supposed to, and
they're refusing to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Josh Bain, member of the Indianapolis City County Council, is
our guest, just a couple of minutes left here with you.
So are you coming out and saying that you now
would support the idea of some sort of state takeover
at least of certain parts of Indianapolis government.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I think we have to rob I mean, what in
Indianapolis are we doing well? You know, that's a good
question to ask, right And if you look at the
mayor's speech that he gave a couple of weeks ago,
everything that he pointed out, like he would talk about
economic development, everything that he pointed out was either city
funded or backed by city bonds. You know, our roads
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are completely collapsing, Kids are in the street shooting and
killing each other over who knows what, and we're just
all sitting here. You know, there's no accountability for these judges.
So that's why, you know, we really need the state
to come in. City council. Again, we have some say
over discretionary budgets like grants and whatnot, but for there
(26:24):
to actually be a true systemic change with our court system,
it's going to have to come from the state level
real quick.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Before I let you go, do you think based on
a lot of people said that we're in that room
the other night hawks had his running for a fourth term.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You're you're on the city County council. What say you?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I did not think that he gave a speech from
someone in the lane duck of a third term who's
not running again. I think that was a speech from
someone who at least is not planning on going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Very good. Well, that'd be very bad for us, but
very very good from you, Josh Bain. You always do
do a very good job. Josh maayine, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, It's Ketel Casey Show ninety three WIBC Sentive. So
this woman has come up with a business model that
fascinates me, and she's making apparently gobs of money doing this.
And I'm Jerry. I gotta get your opinion on this.
It's Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob. Jerry Lopez is
(27:25):
in for Cacyday. You find him on Twitter at Indi Spanglish.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
keV is here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So the New York Post had this article on it.
This would be perfect for our show. I'm going to
read you the headline. All right, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Suspicious women hire me as honeytrap to test if their
boyfriends will cheat. It's shocking how fast men fold. So
this is a I think what most people would say
is a very well assembled woman and basically what happens
is women who suspect their gentlemen caller might either be
(28:02):
currently cheating.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Or prone to cheating.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Hire this woman for as much as five thousand dollars
and it is her job to try to get those
men to cheat. And the theory is if they can
resist her, there's no woman that a man will actually
cheat with.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, this is so much to unpack here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
If you have to hire somebody to see if your
partner will cheat, your relationships already over, well, that's.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
A good that's a fair point. I mean, that's probably
very fair that if you've got to if.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You've got if there's at that point where're gonna give
some lady five thousand bucks to see if she can
sleep with your man your relationship is already dead.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, And here's the thing. I don't think she does
any actual sleeping. I think she just gets them to
the point, like she gets it all on record, like
this is a great business I can.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Range a meet up and now you were gonna meet
your relationships already over.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean this is a great business model for
this woman because I don't think she does anything other
than just take photos of herself and.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Take it one step further, say that you passed the test.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, and then you find out later that your wife
hired this lady to try to entice, like, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You be a little upset?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, that's what I'm saying. If you if you are
says lose lose, lose for everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
that and that's Yeah, you're right. I mean, if you're
to that point the relationship either, I mean, even if
your person isn't cheating, you're already to the point where you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Think he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So there's nothing that's gonna convince you otherwise with future people, Right,
you're gonna just keep hiring her.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, how does that? How does that?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Business model by this lady? But anybody that's paying for
these services is already lost.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Okay, here's the here's the one thing I would say
is the flaw. Now, clearly there's not a flaw in
the business plan because she's apparently making lots of money
doing this, and as kind of bizarro as this is,
it's I guess theoretically way better than like only fans.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I was gonna say, I was just literally in my
head going, but it's better know.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Only fans because she doesn't really do anything like I mean,
she just takes photos ruining relationship.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He that are already ruined.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right if you're a dude though, okay, unless your name
is unless you have a bank account that rivals the
size of Bezos Musk Gates Zuckerberg, this woman is not
into you? What man is actually falling for this? Wouldn't
that be a colossal red flag that this broad is
(30:22):
pretending to be interested in you? We just talked last
week about some AI person that'sh with people. People are
just starving for attention, I think, and they're willing to
throw away at all for a little bit of attention. Yeah,
like if this person Jerry, you you've seen the person
in question? Yeah, if she slid into your DTAs good
for Kevin? Have you seen this this woman in question?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Here?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And look, keV is a is a good looking single guy.
He's in a band, he works at a radio station.
Kev's got a lot going for him. If this woman,
even with you Kevin having a lot going for you,
showed any interest in you whatsoever, or you Jerry whatsoever?
Your two unmarried guys, wouldn't you say, what does this
person one with me. Wouldn't that be your first reaction?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I don't know if you've seen me, rob, I mean,
so like pretty as a dime a dozen, she might
be a psychopathanal hoarder, Like there's now I'm forty four
years old, dude, I've never dated a girl who I
didn't think was pretty, So you got to bring more
than that. Well, but I'm saying, like there's hay, but
those girls don't typically jump into a dude's DMS.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
They don't have to, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
See, that's the point the aggres the fact that she
would instigate a conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
With the man.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I guarantee you at no point in this woman's
life has she ever instigated a conversation with the man.
She was never the first person to say something.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I agree. Okay, So anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's out there, that could be a reverse position for
U spanglish. You could be hired by men to see
if their wives are cheating.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, I mean there's a chance. You're a celebrity,
now there's a chance. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Now you know how bad I would feel doing anything
like that. It just sounds like a horrible person thing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I think she justifies it as I'm saving women
from future heartache. I think that's how she's justifying it
to herself, is that she.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Is listen to the sentence the influencer twenty nine, who
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of online funded curves
turn heads.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Her quote was, it's wild how many men don't even
hesitate to give into temptation. I don't reach out to
anyone on my own. These women come to me, and honestly,
I get it. I'd want to know too, So you know,
there's a market for everything and this is out there.
So if some very well enhanced woman slides into your
DMS today, first of all, if you have that big
(32:36):
a dummy to think that would happen organically, we got
to find piece of swamp land in Jersey we want
to sell you and too. Just know that this woman's
out here making bank off of your inability to keep
your As one of the guys that got caught on
to catch Predator one time described it, keep your jeens
in your gens.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yep, it's a trap.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
How about that your jeans in your genes? Okay, let's
take a break. Jerry is in for Casey today. We
got a big hour coming up for you. Coming up
at ten thirty. Casey Smith from the Capitol Chronicles gonna
be with us. They did a big expos on this
whole Tom klein Helter saga about the and the state
Police ADI page probably cause Avid David, he's the due
(33:16):
Boys County sheriff which was accused of impropriety with commissary money,
close ally of Governor Braun. We'll have her to talk
about that, and then we're also going to do a
deep dive on all things. Rubio was all over the
talk circuit yesterday with the big Trump putin meeting with
Trump and Zelensky are supposed to meet coming up here
within a couple hours perhaps, so we'll get you the
(33:37):
latest on that. It's gonna be a big hour Radio.
Jerry's in for Casey. It's Kenney Casey Show eighty three.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
W youc
You know, I wasn't going to start the show taking
a colossal dump on the Secretary of State. I was
gonna hold it off for a few segments. But this
morning has pissed me off to the point or the
only thing that's going to make me feel better is
to do our old time favorite here on the program,
(00:21):
and is to point out what a colossal grifter scumbag
Diego Morales is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So, Jerry, is it all right if we start with that? Hey, listen,
the listeners don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The best thing that happened to Indianapolis today was you
being locked out of the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Because now you are so.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Fired up, all curve balls were coming out fire in
this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So it is the Kenneling Casey Show. I'm robbed. Casey's
out today.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Jerry Lopez at Indy Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey,
keV is here. Let me tell you about my little
drive in shall wait, let's do it?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So for years I have made the same track to
the greater Downtown area and for numerous years, and the
nine years I've worked here, the first seven getting out
of my house was of relative ease. It was a
fairly simple thing. I live in proximity to the Brownsburg
High School, and a couple of years ago they decided, well,
(01:09):
we've got some issues with parking, and we've got some
issues with people getting in and traffic getting into the
high school. Said, see it every day, doesn't seem like
that big of a deal. No, no, there's major issues.
And now they've created this second road to get into
the high school. Where before there was no traffic moved
(01:30):
in a relatively there was some minor delays, right, you
got hundreds of people expected driving, and yes, that's great,
but there was no It was not like the Dan
Ryan Expressway at rush hour in the city of Chicago.
And now since government intervened itself and created this second road, which,
by the way, not mine but people around me. Back's
(01:50):
right up into these people's backyards. Basically, wow, it is
like a mile long stretch of traffic every single day
to get into this high school. And now it's affecting
everybody in the area. No problem. Before, everything moving relatively smooth.
(02:11):
Now it's just just a line of people and heaven forbid,
you get at one of these four way stops where
you just sit. So I had that experience this morning.
Then about a half mile down the road, the train
decided to come. And so there I sat with the train,
(02:32):
which I didn't even know we still had trains in
America anymore. I didn't even know that was still a thing.
But this was the Casey Jones Express. And I sat
there for another five to ten minutes. So now I'm
about fifteen minutes in and I'm less than a mile
I'm less than one mile from my house, and I'm
fifteen minutes in.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's not DC's, this is Browns Browns.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh yes, oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And so then on top of that, of course you
get your normal joy of every road being closed in
the greater downtown area.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You use your experience.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, absolutely, you can't go anywhere without some road being
under construction and taking you, you know, a good ten
to fifteen minutes once you get off the Interstate seventy
exit of your choosing to get to your desired location.
So what what is normally or used to be a
thirty minute trip, Now, thanks to Joe Hawks, that is
(03:26):
a forty minute trip. And now thanks to the men's
of members that run the Brownsburg School Corporation and the
Town of Brownsburg, it was now a fifty minute plus
trip to get to work today.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
How about you, Jerry, It was not that bad at all.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, and you're coming from Noblesville, coming from Noblesville now
on Earth.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, was not that bad. It was not that bad. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So then I get to work and for some reason,
and it's always the weekend people. It's always the weekend people.
I use the same studio every morning, every single morning.
It's booked in the computer in our little register a studio.
Oh blah blah blah. My name is in there, the
Kendall and Casey show every day eight to nine.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's us. I go to open the door. It's locked.
This is after waiting in traffic for the door's locked.
Little morning, Little morning, And.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I said to somebody in there, i'mp peering, appearing no nobody.
So that means, first of all, why you would shut
the door on your way out when the door is
supposed to be open so that somebody can walk in.
I don't know, but somebody had to on their way
out the door decide, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm gonna lock this thing from the inside.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
A deliberate act of malice and or stupidity either either one.
It once again, Jerry, it ruined my morning, but.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It made everybody else's better because I cannot wait to
get into this Diego stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So so so two things with our old our old
pal grifters rs over at Morales Industries. So I saw
this post and it was from Diego.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That are our comptroller. Her name is Elisena Shalla. Every
year I think she has some big shindigs.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She has a very palatial farming estate out in Boone
County and they have some big Republican hey Rube, get
together whatever lawn party.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We're all that. Yes, thank you, I think that's what
it's called. And this is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The connected, yeah, the wealthy, the everything we aren't right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I was invited, Oh you were invited? Yeah, well shoot
hot Dagg didn't go. They would have loved to have
seen me. There was I was during the Colts game.
Went to the Colts game. Starredy was right around the
same time. One two, three, four five is Stadium was closed.
So I thought about you and I walked. I walked in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I went, oh, it's closed. Rob could have called this.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So a beautiful August, beautiful day afternoon. Yeah, no no
rain in the whether or not rained on or not
doused in water.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
First game, preseason home game. You know, it's estimated we.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Spent on additional one hundred million dollars plus for that
retractable roof. And so it's I think what they've counted
less than forty times in the history of the stadium
the roof has been open. And then on a you're
talking about a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Clothes Yeah, mid to one o'clock Saturday, Yeah, roof is closed.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Okay, very good, but that's what a lawn party was Saturday,
early after very good. But my point on this is
it is the people who know what's going on that's
at this thing, correct, right, if you're invited to that thing,
you are paying attention, which means you would know, you
would be aware of the repetitive bull crap that this guy,
Diego Morales proves provides on a regular basis, whether it
(06:42):
is the hiring of family members, whether it is the
no bid contracts, whether it is disappearing to a foreign
country for ten days, whether it is refusal to say
who paid for the trip to the foreign country for
ten days, whether it is then making a ridiculous claim
like I paid the money back then refusing to provide
any proof whatsoever you paid them. But all of the
things associated Diego Morales, everybody there would have known what
(07:04):
he is and what he's doing. Yeah, at this point,
there's no way to act like you don't know if
you're especially in that kind of circle.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And yet, because he posted about this, what a great opportunity,
What a great time Diego had, Because so Diego one
got invited by this woman right who if anybody would
know the bull crap he's pulling, she has an office
very near his, she's in the state House.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
She would know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So one, they invited him to the thing. And two,
it's just one picture after another of him with connected
Republican people, which means not one damn person stopped and said, hey,
can you just cut the bs and tell us who
paid for your trip to India? Not one person there
did what I did, which is and they don't even
(07:44):
have to take an entire day to do it. They're
at the thing anyway, Not one person said, hey, we
all know you're totally full of it and that you
didn't pay that money back. Why don't you cut the
crap and tell us exactly what went on in India?
And who paid for it, and Buddy Raju's mysterious eighty
thousand dollars contract and what he was doing there. Why
a venture capitalist went with you to India? Not one
(08:08):
person did that, And so you know, I was thinking
about this.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I thought, as easy as Diego is to loathe, as
easy as Diego is to despise, because he is a grifter,
he is a scumbag, he is a dirt ball, he
is he is corrupt, he is unethical.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
All of those things are true. But Jerry, you know
where the blame really rests in the Republican Party, because
time after time after time, whether it's Brawn, whether it's Rokeda,
whether it's Micah, whether it's at least Noshella, whether it's
these activist people, they all know what he is. Every
(08:46):
single person there knows who that guy is. And the
fact that not one of these people, nobody not named
Rob Kendall, will hold this guy accountable, means they're.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Fine with it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's a much bigger problem than the Republican Party, Diego
Morales or the Diego Morales. It is a Republican Party problem.
At this point, Diego Morales is the Republican Party. You
can't separate them because they keep condoning, they keep approving,
they keep saying this behavior is okay by not holding
(09:20):
him accountable.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, and the other part of that is when when
for people who don't necessarily tune in every single day
and they see these pictures on social media and they
see all these pictures, you're basically condoning all of this
behavior one hundred percent. If we're not holding people accountable,
then you're condoning it. Those are the options, right at
this point. You can't pretend to not see, not hear,
not know what's going on. So if things if the
wheels fall off the wagon, well aren't you responsible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If you see the wheels wobbling and you don't say anything,
then that's on you too.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, at least a shallow of the state controller. You're
a joke. You're a disgrace. That's ridiculous because she certainly
knows what he is. Aaron Houchin, who I see in
this photo? Professional office hop for Aaron Houchin. You're a joke,
You're a disgrace. This is ridiculous that everybody knows what's
going on with this guy. Everybody knows what's going on
(10:08):
with this guy, and no one in the Republican.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Even ask questions. We'll even ask. No, we're not asking
you if you do full blown investment. We just ask
in public. Yeah, how hard would it have been?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Elis Na Shala, who, by the way, was given her position.
She didn't earn it when the current or the former
auditor quit. She was because she was a holcome person.
She was in the Hulcomb Ads party insider given this position,
by the way, lost at the convention for state treasurer.
(10:39):
And then what was her response on why did I lose?
Give me a position? Gimme, gimme, gimme. That's who the
Republican Party is. If they won't hold the worst of
them accountable, if nobody will stand up and hold the
worst of them, which we all know, that's what diego
Morales is. If no one will hold the worst among
us accountable, then you are the worst among us.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right, I feel so much better. All Right, we're
off and running, babe. We didn't even get to a
segment one.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I didn't even get to the other thing that
I wanted to scream up, but we'll do that later
on the show. You don't want to use all your
all your ammo in one segment. Right, all right, we'll
take a break. We'll get to all the Trump putin
Russia whatever. It's Kettle Case Show ninety three. WWC.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well you had a bad morning too. I feel bad
that you just let me rant.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
On about that for all that time when you've had
a dramatic event yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, it's uh, I've been deployed twice. It feels
like I'm back in the sandbox. Right now. It's Kendal
and Casey. So I'm Rob. Jerry'son for Casey today. What
happened to you? So I've been on this thing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, I drink a lot of Red Bulls and things
like that, and now I'm just like you know, I'm
gonna go to stop and grab me a fountain soda.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'll get the big when it'll last me the whole show.
Are you still done with the smoking? Yeah? You steve
kept going. We're talking about a month, maybe in a.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Couple of weeks, so people don't know, Jerry, start around
like July eleventh, right before I went to Tampa. Yeah,
the cigarette tax increase reached a point where you said,
this is my price point.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, and then and you're saving all this money and
are you feeling better?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, eat a lot. Now I feel like a little
fat guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah that's I think you just go Most people go
from one vice to the next, right. But anyway, so
you have now one of the things you do is
you get a soda on the regular.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, just grab a soda, grab the big one to
sip on throughout the day or whatever. But I pull
up to the gas station, big sign on the thing
that says no straws.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Any wait, wait, the gas station didn't have any strawstraw
Now I'm looking at this cup. Yeah, and based on
the cup, this is a fairly major Yeah, it's an
extra large. Well I'm saying, but like the retailer, this
is a big box store. Yeah, yeah, you have one
in your neighborhood, right, So I find it fascinating that
they there's not some sort of Amazon type instant feature
(12:54):
where they can get straws given the relative proximity, alatively
close proximity that another store of the same name would be.
Even if that were, you know, like when I worked
at Arby's in high school, Like if you ran out
of something there were so many Arby's that you could
go like just get you know, there's got to be
another one of those within one mile of where this
(13:16):
one was exactly. But no, you're you're forced to So
how are you're drinking this? What from like a you're
sipping out of the app.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I gotta take the top off of it. And
this thing is huge.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So there is a chance at some point, like I
will be running to the bath and wipe my shirt
off during this show.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, it's brutal because part of now do you just
do this? Well, let me ask you. Do you do
the same like you get like you just get mountain
dew or whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Time.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so what I do Now this probably is a
character flaw, But whenever I go to a restaurant and
they have the fountain, I mix things together that way.
I feel like I'm getting three or four sodas in
the same like an eight like an eight year old. Yeah,
they called it the suicide. They retreat when you would
do that. But like in my house, I have pepsi,
but I don't have all of these other drinks. But
(14:00):
I don't want all the calories that are associated with
all these other drinks. So I'll like put diet coke
or diet pepsi as the base, and then you can
mix all these other things and you get like the
super cool Willy Wonka drink that you wouldn't be able
to get anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That is a character flaw. Does that say something horrible
about me? I mean you're living dangerously. Remember you're like
eight or nine.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's like, are you're gonna do the suicide and get
all of them and all of a sudden you're.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The coolest guy on the baseball team.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, So coming up next hour, we have a big
update on a story that we broke on this program,
and that is involving the Sheriff du Bois County, Tom Kleinhelter. So,
if you remember, former state Police Superintendent Doug Carter came
on this program, was with us for an hour and
was talking about this investigation into the sheriff of Dubois County,
(14:45):
who is a close political ally of Governor Braun, who
was accused in an eighty page probable cause affidavit while
Carter was state superintendent by a decorated state police officer
of missu using commissary money and basically he was paying.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
For his wife to go on trips with him.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Some other things related to the allegations were made that
he was misusing the commissary money and State police felt
like they had a strong case. Carter felt like they
had a strong case. Jeff Heron, the officer who was
putting the problem Cause Affidavid to get I mean, eighty
pages is a lot, right, And then suddenly Braun becomes
the governor, a new State Police superintendent comes in, and
(15:28):
the special prosecutor decides not to.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Press charges. Yep, these are not the drones you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Some people were like, whoo, that seems like a lot
of red flags going on there. With an eighty page
problem cause affidavit, which was triggered, by the way, by
the State Board of Accounts. This emanated out of another
government entity going to State police.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Carter came in said, look.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think there's a lot of shenanigans potentially going on here,
and then he was most upset. This decorated officer was
punished by state police in regards to this investigation Casey
Smith from the India of Capitol Chronicle has has done
a fabulous deep dive on this.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
She has reached out to bronze people.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
She talked to klein Helter, she talked to this special prosecutor,
Casey Smith is going to be with us at ten
thirty talking about what she found. So in the meantime
we're gonna take a break. When we come back, Josh
Bain of the Indianapoli City County Council will be with us.
He had a fascinating back and forth with a Marion
County Superior Court judge about crime, about how the judges
(16:28):
are handling dangerous, violent criminals, about letting them out back
out on the street. And we will talk with Josh
about that back and forth that he had with a
Marion County Superior Court judge. Jerry's in for casey ninety three, WIBC.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Who have somebody's fighting for a place to stand, what
decent chab or a help in hand? Whoever, somebody's struggling
to be free looking there, Aysma, you'll see me.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So they had all the green violence and still out
of control of the sea of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The question needs, with all the focus on.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
The mayor and the prosecutor, what role did the judges
play in it? Our next guest, he's trying to get
to the bottom of that ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Jerry Lopez at Eddie Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Josh Bain.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He is a Republican member of the Indianapolis City County
Council and he had a fascinating back and forth with
a member of the Marion County Superior Court. And he
joins us now, and I think he's trying to get
into something interesting, which is with all the focus on
the mayor of the prosecutor, how much of the blame
rests with the judges. Josh Bain joins us now. Josh Bain, Hello, Hey,
(17:48):
good to be with you. So I'm want to play
you a little bit of this. Our old pal Stephen
Whitmer and the fine folks over at Indie Reporter posted
this at Indye Underscore Reporter Underscore, and this was a
back and forth that you had with this Marion County
Superior Court judge Mark Rothenbergen. And before we play this audio,
I want it for you to kind of set this
(18:09):
up for us. Is that what you were trying to
do here, because you guys at the city County Council,
you fund the public courts. Were you trying to get
into what role the judges play and letting these violent
offenders back out on streets?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah, for sure, because at the end of the day,
it's judges that are accepting plea deals, accepting plea bargains,
setting bail, you know, sitting thing people. So this is
this is really the crux of the argument. I've been
saying this for years that you know, even if we
ever win the prosecutors race here in Marianne County, it's
still a major uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So Rothenberg has been a spirit court judge for a
long time, I think, you know, fifteen sixteen years now,
and you were grilling him on these things. And I'm
just going to play a little bit of this audio
and then we'll sort of do a deep dive because
I thought he said something interesting and I want to
give you a chance to respond to that.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Humanity is difficult to deal with, but you have to
look at the empirical evidence that's in front of you.
When you deal with this. Sometimes you have to make
tough choices, and you have to make those tough choices
as a judge, Remember, as I said, redemption rehabilitation is
the primary goal as set out by the Indiana Constitution,
and we have to keep that in mind in every
sentence we make. Right. It's easy to say, hey, we
(19:24):
should lock up as many people as possible because our
city is dangerous and dangerous people should be in jail.
I don't disagree with that. I've lived here all my life.
But there's also the presumption of innocence. Everyone is entitled
to a bond by the Indiana Constitution, a reasonable bond.
I would say that our bonds and Marion County are
similar because we've looked at them off many, many times,
(19:47):
similar to the other counties in the state of Indiana
and the donut counties in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Does he have a case, Josh Bain, remember the Indianapolis
City Ketty Council. Does this judge say, look, I'm just
following the law on the constitutions as it set or
their problems in his theory there.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I think he's following his judicial philosophy. I mean,
you know, when it comes to sentencing people, I'm like, well,
sometimes people just need to be put away because they're ainous,
violent people. And you know the problems with our superior court,
it's with our circuit court as well. I mean, for example,
the next judge that got up and spoke was the
(20:24):
judge that presided over the death of the five year
old girl, Zara, and she literally sat in a courtroom
and told this mom to quit making complaints to dcs
about the dad. And then the dad tortured the five
year old girl shortly after that and killed her. So
and there's no accountability like these judges. You know, no
(20:46):
one can hold them accountable. We can't hold them accountable
on the City County Council to a large extent. You know,
I've been doing a deep dive because you know, the
only time these judges even come before us is during
the budget season. And even Judge Rothenberg, you know, was
getting sassy with me at the beginning of my questioning
because he's like, you know, your questions don't have anything
to do with the budget, even though all the Democrat
(21:10):
councilors before me were asking about things that didn't have
to do with the budget. He knew where this was going.
And that's why from the very beginning, you know, he was,
you know, trying to be you know, Coffee was trying
to be you know, contentful and everything, and you know,
we're just not going to put up with it anymore.
At least the Republicans aren't, I mean, and at least
(21:30):
I'm not. We're done saying that these judges have all
these independence and everything that they're going to have to
start being held accountable.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Josh Bain is our guest. He's a Republican member of
the Indianapolis City County Council. We're talking about the court
system and the role they may be playing and out
of control violence in the city of Indianapolis. So these
judges are explained to our audience because many people this,
you know, this is their first introduction to these sort
of things, which is why it's great that we're able
to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
These judges are elected, so they are appointed, they are
were appointed.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
We have a different system here in Marion County. You know,
the state has stepped in a few different times when
it comes to Marion County judicial selection. And then there's
a presiding judge and you know, they have terms in office.
So Judge Rothenberg is currently the presiding judge.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Appointed by Okay, so you've gone where I wanted you
to go. They are appointed by who.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
So there's this committee of people made up of like
appointments from the state legislature and such, and then there
has to be a political partisan balance to it as well.
And that's why you know here in Marion County we
don't really do direct elections for all of these judges.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
So I think that's where some people's frustration is. And you,
if you have I don't know if you intended to
do it or not, but you are doing great for
the radio segment. You're going exactly where I want you
to go, Josh Bain, which is if outside influences have
control over who is appointed, we can't even really blame
the voters for this, as you're saying, people at two
hundred US Washington, our state capital, have a role in this.
(23:03):
Why aren't we getting better people in this position? What
do we have to do to get people who will
take this, I guess more seriously for lack of a
better term, when it comes to keeping violent offenders behind bars?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What do we have to do?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, and I'll say this, I'm someone that's pretty much
done a complete one eighty on this. When I was
first elected to city County Council, like six this years ago.
I would always tell my state representatives and state senators that,
you know, people in Indianapolis, they need to live with
the consequences of their actions. You know, there are retention
votes for judges, but I mean, you know, we can
all laugh at that. There's no such thing as a
(23:36):
retention vote. But you know, I always told them. You know,
there was one time there was a bill for the
governor to appoint the chief of IMPD, you know, and
I was like, hey, that's too far. People need to
live with the consequences of their actions. They vote for this,
they vote to retain these judges, let them live with it.
And then over the past year, I've done a one
eighty where it's like people are not living with it,
(23:57):
people are dying with it. We have kids dying, kids
being tortured in their homes because of this nonsense that
you know, there's just no accountability. So that's why I've
been doing a deep dive this year. We have still
about a month or so before the budget will come back,
and we're going to have time to offer amendments and
(24:19):
when it comes to their like pay their staffing, pay,
all that set by state statute. But they receive a
lot of money in grants, rob and I mean a
lot of money, and it does look like we have
some discretion over those grants. So it's one of those
things where if you want these grant dollars, we're going
to have to start seeing some accountability. And one other
(24:40):
thing I want to touch on too, because it's getting
in the news so much, is the juvenile crime in
our city is obviously out of control, and our chief
has been asking for years for them to share data
for kids. For juveniles. You know, if you pull over
a seventeen year old, they could be on probation, they
(25:03):
could have a terrible criminal history. We don't and an
imp the officer who's making that detention, is not able
to look at that information. They do not receive the information.
The courts do not share any kind of information like that,
even though they're allowed to like they're supposed to, and
they're refusing to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Josh Bain, member of the Indianapolis City County Council, is
our guest, just a couple of minutes left here with you.
So are you coming out and saying that you now
would support the idea of some sort of state takeover
at least of certain parts of Indianapolis government.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I think we have to rob I mean, what in
Indianapolis are we doing well? You know, that's a good
question to ask, right And if you look at the
mayor's speech that he gave a couple of weeks ago,
everything that he pointed out, like he would talk about
economic development, everything that he pointed out was either city
funded or backed by city bonds. You know, our roads
(26:02):
are completely collapsing, Kids are in the street shooting and
killing each other over who knows what, and we're just
all sitting here. You know, there's no accountability for these judges.
So that's why, you know, we really need the state
to come in. City council. Again, we have some say
over discretionary budgets like grants and whatnot, but for there
(26:24):
to actually be a true systemic change with our court system,
it's going to have to come from the state level
real quick.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Before I let you go, do you think based on
a lot of people said that we're in that room
the other night hawks had his running for a fourth term.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You're you're on the city County council. What say you?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I did not think that he gave a speech from
someone in the lane duck of a third term who's
not running again. I think that was a speech from
someone who at least is not planning on going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Very good. Well, that'd be very bad for us, but
very very good from you, Josh Bain. You always do
do a very good job. Josh maayine, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, It's Ketel Casey Show ninety three WIBC Sentive. So
this woman has come up with a business model that
fascinates me, and she's making apparently gobs of money doing this.
And I'm Jerry. I gotta get your opinion on this.
It's Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob. Jerry Lopez is
(27:25):
in for Cacyday. You find him on Twitter at Indi Spanglish.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
keV is here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So the New York Post had this article on it.
This would be perfect for our show. I'm going to
read you the headline. All right, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Suspicious women hire me as honeytrap to test if their
boyfriends will cheat. It's shocking how fast men fold. So
this is a I think what most people would say
is a very well assembled woman and basically what happens
is women who suspect their gentlemen caller might either be
(28:02):
currently cheating.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Or prone to cheating.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Hire this woman for as much as five thousand dollars
and it is her job to try to get those
men to cheat. And the theory is if they can
resist her, there's no woman that a man will actually
cheat with.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, this is so much to unpack here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
If you have to hire somebody to see if your
partner will cheat, your relationships already over, well, that's.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
A good that's a fair point. I mean, that's probably
very fair that if you've got to if.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You've got if there's at that point where're gonna give
some lady five thousand bucks to see if she can
sleep with your man your relationship is already dead.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, And here's the thing. I don't think she does
any actual sleeping. I think she just gets them to
the point, like she gets it all on record, like
this is a great business I can.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Range a meet up and now you were gonna meet
your relationships already over.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean this is a great business model for
this woman because I don't think she does anything other
than just take photos of herself and.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Take it one step further, say that you passed the test.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, and then you find out later that your wife
hired this lady to try to entice, like, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You be a little upset?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, that's what I'm saying. If you if you are
says lose lose, lose for everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
that and that's Yeah, you're right. I mean, if you're
to that point the relationship either, I mean, even if
your person isn't cheating, you're already to the point where you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Think he's cheating.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So there's nothing that's gonna convince you otherwise with future people, Right,
you're gonna just keep hiring her.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, how does that? How does that?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Business model by this lady? But anybody that's paying for
these services is already lost.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Okay, here's the here's the one thing I would say
is the flaw. Now, clearly there's not a flaw in
the business plan because she's apparently making lots of money
doing this, and as kind of bizarro as this is,
it's I guess theoretically way better than like only fans.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I was gonna say, I was just literally in my
head going, but it's better know.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Only fans because she doesn't really do anything like I mean,
she just takes photos ruining relationship.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He that are already ruined.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right if you're a dude though, okay, unless your name
is unless you have a bank account that rivals the
size of Bezos Musk Gates Zuckerberg, this woman is not
into you? What man is actually falling for this? Wouldn't
that be a colossal red flag that this broad is
(30:22):
pretending to be interested in you? We just talked last
week about some AI person that'sh with people. People are
just starving for attention, I think, and they're willing to
throw away at all for a little bit of attention. Yeah,
like if this person Jerry, you you've seen the person
in question? Yeah, if she slid into your DTAs good
for Kevin? Have you seen this this woman in question?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Here?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And look, keV is a is a good looking single guy.
He's in a band, he works at a radio station.
Kev's got a lot going for him. If this woman,
even with you Kevin having a lot going for you,
showed any interest in you whatsoever, or you Jerry whatsoever?
Your two unmarried guys, wouldn't you say, what does this
person one with me. Wouldn't that be your first reaction?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I don't know if you've seen me, rob, I mean,
so like pretty as a dime a dozen, she might
be a psychopathanal hoarder, Like there's now I'm forty four
years old, dude, I've never dated a girl who I
didn't think was pretty, So you got to bring more
than that. Well, but I'm saying, like there's hay, but
those girls don't typically jump into a dude's DMS.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
They don't have to, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
See, that's the point the aggres the fact that she
would instigate a conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
With the man.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I guarantee you at no point in this woman's
life has she ever instigated a conversation with the man.
She was never the first person to say something.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I agree. Okay, So anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's out there, that could be a reverse position for
U spanglish. You could be hired by men to see
if their wives are cheating.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, I mean there's a chance. You're a celebrity,
now there's a chance. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Now you know how bad I would feel doing anything
like that. It just sounds like a horrible person thing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I think she justifies it as I'm saving women
from future heartache. I think that's how she's justifying it
to herself, is that she.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Is listen to the sentence the influencer twenty nine, who
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of online funded curves
turn heads.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Her quote was, it's wild how many men don't even
hesitate to give into temptation. I don't reach out to
anyone on my own. These women come to me, and honestly,
I get it. I'd want to know too, So you know,
there's a market for everything and this is out there.
So if some very well enhanced woman slides into your
DMS today, first of all, if you have that big
(32:36):
a dummy to think that would happen organically, we got
to find piece of swamp land in Jersey we want
to sell you and too. Just know that this woman's
out here making bank off of your inability to keep
your As one of the guys that got caught on
to catch Predator one time described it, keep your jeens
in your gens.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yep, it's a trap.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
How about that your jeans in your genes? Okay, let's
take a break. Jerry is in for Casey today. We
got a big hour coming up for you. Coming up
at ten thirty. Casey Smith from the Capitol Chronicles gonna
be with us. They did a big expos on this
whole Tom klein Helter saga about the and the state
Police ADI page probably cause Avid David, he's the due
(33:16):
Boys County sheriff which was accused of impropriety with commissary money,
close ally of Governor Braun. We'll have her to talk
about that, and then we're also going to do a
deep dive on all things. Rubio was all over the
talk circuit yesterday with the big Trump putin meeting with
Trump and Zelensky are supposed to meet coming up here
within a couple hours perhaps, so we'll get you the
(33:37):
latest on that. It's gonna be a big hour Radio.
Jerry's in for Casey. It's Kenney Casey Show eighty three.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
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