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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, I feel like we've played this scene out before.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Casey, you think so so troops they're seeing money in
their accounts. It started yesterday the Department of Defense or yeah,
the Department of Defense. They redirected eight billion dollars from
research and development to cover the cost of the troops
paychecks during the government shutdown, which is in day fifteen

(00:23):
by the way, in case you're counting.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Okay, and that's its own thing.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's its own separate thing.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, which, you.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Know, whatever, either we're shut down or we're not. But
I guess if you can just pay some people, that's
fine whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Right, Like, they're moving money. Military paydays are officially on
the first and the fifteenth of each month.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
The bigger concern for me is Trump got asked like
what if this goes on in perpetuity? And then he's like,
don't worry, I got it.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Covered, right. He was asked the question and he said
he's got a guy on you.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
You have the money to pay the troops on a
Jumber fifteen, Okay, you actually have a man who is
a very wealthy person.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
I don't know that when I tell you this, who
called a donor a great gentleman, and he said, if
there's any money necessary shortfall for the paying of the troops,
that I will pay it, meaning he will pay it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So wait, So, some anonymous guy, a private donor, he
didn't say the name correct, is going to give money
to the government and doesn't want anything in return.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Haven't we done as for the question, Hi, we haven't
we been here?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh for the past what seven or eight months on
this program with this exact issue, when the Indiana Secretary
of State Diego Morales disappeared to India for ten days,
won't tell anybody exactly what he did there, and won't
tell anybody who paid for it. And then when he
got pressed, he said, well, some local merchant paid for it.
Really who? Well they I don't want to say because

(02:00):
they'd get protested. No, I don't think that would happen.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Uh No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't want to say their name. I don't want
to say their name.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I paid for the trip. I'm paid for India. Like
it's no, I'm not down with this at all. If
somebody wants to give the government money, I want to
know exactly who it is, because I want to know
what deals they've got with the government, because I don't
believe for a second, whether it's paying for some clown
to go to India for ten days or for paying
for the troops, that somebody's doing something out of the

(02:26):
goodness of their heart.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Right, prove it to me.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And doesn't that concern you just a little bit that
there's some private citizen out there who's got this money
to bankroll the military. And what if he says, you
know what, I want something done over here, go make
the military do this, and then all of a sudden,
your commander in chief is no longer the one doing
the commanding.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna take this money,
if you're going to pay for something, I want to
know exactly what's going on. I want to know exactly
what your ties to the administration are.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I want to know what contracts you have.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
With the government, because think about the amount of money
you're talking about to quote unquote pay the troops. Casey,
we're not talking about here's twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right now, You're talking about more like one hundred billion.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, So I mean, who's doing that?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
And now I don't I don't believe for a second,
there's somebody that's that patriotic that they would just part
with one hundred bill out of the goodness of their
heart anonymously.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, now, he was saying that he would make up
the difference if there wasn't enough. But what is the difference,
you know, like if are they going to move more
money from research and development? Because at this point, Congress
hasn't passed any standalone bill that guarantees their future pay
for service members, so there's some uncertainty about the next

(03:52):
schedule payday, which is coming up November first. Will the
government still be shut down in two more weeks?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, and to me, this is again, this whole shutdown
is why people hate the government. Let's again review what
the shutdown is all about. The Republicans who campaigned for
years against Joe Biden are now painting themselves as the
good guys for despite being in complete control of the
government for nine months, passing Biden's spending levels. That's their

(04:24):
default is we're the good guys here because we're passing
Biden's spending levels. After running against Biden for four years,
and then the Democrats, who time after time after time
approved biden spending levels, now are like, no, no, no,
that doesn't work for us. That's not good enough. That's
your government. Now, this is why people don't engage. This

(04:44):
is why people don't run for public office. This is
why people don't take an interest. This is why voters
are apathetic. This is why voter participation is solow. They
see this and go, you all are frauds and liars.
Will pos on both your houses.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Now, these federal employees that are still to get riffed
if nothing is noticeable with their absence, should they come back?
Doesn't that just prove the point that the federal government
is bloated. You've got Marlon Stutzman, representative from Indiana. He's
blaming the Democrats for all of the delay. He said

(05:18):
they're playing political political games, and he accused the Senate
Majority leader Chuck Schumer of stalling for political reasons.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Isn't no kidding. That's what these people do.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's all you do is stuff for political reasons, every
single one of you, on both sides of the aisle.
That's what you do. You do things for political reasons.
What you think, Chuck Schumer, this is what I love
about the Republicans here with this. They act like they're
all offended. The Chuck Schumer hasn't just rolled over and
done whatever they wanted to do, as though they're surprised
that this is happening. What you mean the leader of

(05:51):
the Democrats isn't just going, well, this Republican budget is great,
we should totally all vote for it. It wouldn't matter
if you'd given him everything he wanted. He has to
show he's a fighter. He was going to do this regardless,
which is why you should have given him nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
And now you have the Speaker of the House who's
holding a daily press conference. Have you seen these every
day every morning?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Who's watching that? What is he saying?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
He's not even they're not holding any votes, correct, So
what is he What is there to talk about?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's just more political games, Rob, That's what it is.
There's a new res Musen poll out and it says
that most American voters support Trump's use of the National
Guard to protect ice facilities.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, look at this is a reoccurring theme. One of
the things that Trump administrator has done very well and
the public supports is their stance on immigration and getting
illegal immigration under control in this country. And this is
a real losing battle for the Democrats when they showcase
these lunatics who go protest ice, interfere with ice, et cetera.

(06:58):
The American public, I think, is sympathetic to having people
in this country who want to assimilate, who want to
do things the right way, but it is they also
believe we should know who's in our country. There should
be an orderly process to come into this country, and
they're going to support as was a major reason they
voted for Trump in the election. They're going to support

(07:21):
policies that align with the idea of we have the
right to know who's coming in, we have the right
to enforce our laws, and if you're going to come here,
there's a process to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So in this poll, fifty six percent of voters believe
that judges are engaging in legal insurrection, meaning that they
feel like the judges are making unlawful or unconstitutional rulings.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, it's total well, of course, but this is the
problem the Supreme Court. Look, the Supreme Court is ultimately
going to have to do something about this. They tried
earlier this year when they ruled against these judges being
able to pass these nationwide in junctions. However, and they
warned these judges at the time because they left a

(08:05):
way around it with these class action lawsuits. And they
basically told the judges at the time, we're going to
leave this in place for now, but how you proceed
with this power that is still afforded to you will
decide how much we're going to tolerate going forward. And
you have seen on multiple occasions now these judges approve
these class action lawsuits as a way to get around

(08:27):
the nationwide injunction bands. Look, you just have partisans in
robes now, and that's the Democrats have recognized they can
find a sympathetic judge it was California and New York
or wherever, and then they get this thing on the table.
And once you get some total partisan hack to side
with you and get it on the table, then it's
game on and it's got to go through the court system.

(08:47):
And that's their play now, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So Trump has ordered the National Guard to protect the
ICE facilities in Los Angeles, Chicago, Memphis, DC, and Portland.
And it's just part of a broader effort to some
of the violence and protect the immigration enforcement agencies that
are just trying to do what they've been ordered to do.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
All right, let's take a break. What are we doing next?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, you know what, We've got to talk about this study.
It did a deep dive on the refs. Are they
favoring the Chiefs in some of the.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Biggest in every game?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Somebody got some research on it.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Ron Oh God, and I've got to get a final
pick from you on this one.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, yeah, because there's now this conversation that Penn Stay
is looking at Marcus Freeman. No, Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame.
We'll talk about that coming up. It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So somebody's finally putting a study to what people have
known for years. Yes, which is that the NFL is
totally rigged in favor of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, University of Texas at El Paso did a study
and it suggests that, yes, the Kansas City Chiefs have
received favorable official during the Patrick Mahomes era, especially in
big game.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
No kidding.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
They analyzed over thirteen thousand NFL penalty calls from twenty
fifty to twenty three and found that postseason officially officiating
favors the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
It's every game it's so brazen, like they're not even
good at hiding it. See that game, just the last
game they played, the Lions opening drive, they get a touchdown,
miracle play, you know, they throw the pass to the quarterback,
he bobbles it, catches it, runs in. He's in the
end zone celebrating, and then all of a sudden, oh,
here comes the flag. There's like a conversation, it's like

(10:37):
a meeting of parliament takes place, and then all of
a sudden, and you know, you just know as soon
as the conversations started, just seeing go they're going to
find a way to take this touchdown away from the Lions.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
And they throw the flag and all the like.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
They're what they called an illegal procedure penalty. You can't
discuss that after the fact. But they're like, well, it's
the Chiefs. We sure again, here's the flag. Eat in America.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So, also in a recent Sunday night football game, there
was a potentially incomplete catch by Kelsey. It wasn't reviewed.
The Chiefs rushed to the line to avoid having the
replay reviewed, and so that raised some questions as well
about the game management and fairness. And they're saying that
according to this study, there is real data that shows

(11:21):
evidence that they're getting extra help from the refs, especially
in high stakes game.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, that's called my eyes. I see it every week.
I didn't even need the study.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I hate watching the Kansas City Chiefs because the other
the one where they really get people is anytime someone
even gets close to breathing on mahomes oh passes roughing
the pass, or he'd even tackle him roughing the pass,
or he looked at him wrong.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I hate watching games with the Kansas City Chiefs because
it happens every damn week.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Casey Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
So they're also saying that because of this, you know,
there is some financial incentive and media influence that goes
along with this, Like high profile teams like the Chiefs,
they benefit because they boost ratings and revenue for all
of the NFL. So maybe this is being done intentionally.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, isn't it wild?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know, I'm not a conspiracy person, but you have
the face of the league on the Chiefs, the most
famous coach in the league on the Chiefs, the most
famous maybe de facto player in football now because he's
marrying Taylor Swift on the Chiefs, and boy wouldn't you
know the Chiefs get all the calls.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Right, because you've got that game. It was in twenty
twenty three, Taylor Swift was there and it drew twenty
four million viewers, which is well above the average. And
they're saying the studies, Yeah, no, we've got data. It is.
You know, these subjective calls are going twenty eight percent

(12:48):
of the time more often in Chiefs favor. You've got
all of these eyeballs. You've got the whole Taylor Swift thing.
So maybe it's to our advantage to keep this role in.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
It's called eyes. I have them.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I see it happen every single week. Hey, let's get
to something important. Oh, okay, do you have a final
Now you're on a roll with Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's two for two.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's right on the Degenerates next Door Sports Betting podcast
picks the spread now.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
So Notre Dame is playing USC this weekend. That's a
huge rivalry game.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
The spread is balloon to a wopping nine and a
half points. Notre Dame is a nine and a half
point favor.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
The over under, which means a total points scored in
the game, is sixty one and a half.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
We have to go record the podcast as soon as
we get done with the show.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
You want to know what you're going to say?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
What do you want to what do you want? What
do you you're you're on the on the Notre Dame heater.
You never walk away from the table when somebody's on
a roll. So you get the pick this week?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Are you taking over under sixty one and a half
or are you taking Notre Dame laying or usc getting
nine and a half points to take the over? You're
going over over sixty one and a half total point
scoring in the end, it's a big number.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It is a big number. It's a lot of points.
I got a score, but and I think Notre Dame
is going to win. But regardless of who wins, we
take the over. We're getting money.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, very good over.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So I am going so we need you need like
thirty five twenty eight would get us there, thirty five
thirty one would get us there, thirty two thirty one
would get us there.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
We need some points.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Saturday night scoring game.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Let's go bingo? All right?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah it is risky these rivalry games. You never know.
But as long as we just go with the points
and over we're good.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, very good. Yeah, and we are in first place.
I am in first place on the college football By
the way.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I think you owe me money. Don't you want out
at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, do you want your one dollar?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So what I told Casey I would bet three dollars,
Casey would get a dollar. Would you like me to
physically pull out my wallet and hand you Do.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
You actually have a dollar?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
One United States dollar?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
One?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, Well here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
You lost your other bet though you took IU.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I know, I know I was wrong. I was wrong.
I admitted it. I was wrong, But I'm very happy
for them.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Do you want me to keep a tab of your
notes youre bets?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, and then you can just pay me out at
the end.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Of yowe you one US dollar right now?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's fantastic payout, buddy. So Fox News has joined the
list of networks including ABC, CBS, NBCCNN that are not
signing the agreement laid out before them by Pete Hegseeth.
They're rejecting the new Pentagon rules for journalists. They have
called it unprecedented and a threat to journalistic protections.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Okay, So the Pentagon wants these news outlets to play
by a new set of rules. And look, pick your
favorite news outlet, The Hill, Politico, whatever. They've all written
at length about this and thus far and barring some
sort of update that's happened here recently, I think every

(15:50):
news agency but one has refused to sign.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, it was one America News Network has agreed to
follow the rules.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And basically it is.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It basically stymies in order to get to be a
part of press conferences, et cetera. Information that you are
allowed to put out if it comes into your possession,
even if it's not classified information. And that's the big thing.
If you get something they don't want you to have,

(16:25):
if it's handed to you by a leaker or whatever,
you then are agreeing we will not publish this information.
And rightfully so the networks are like, we just won't participate. Goodbye,
thank you, have a nice life.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Right So, the Pentagon is defending the policy. They're saying
it's common sense media procedures. They're asking all of the
outlets to sign or acknowledge the rules, and if they
don't play by what the Pentagon says, they'll be banned
or they'll have their reporting privileges removed.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, the law says, quote according to Hill, if you
solicit the disclosure of such information or otherwise encourage Defense
Department personnel to violate laws and policies concerning the disclosure
of such information, conduct may weigh in the consideration of
whether you pose a security or safety risk.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Here is the Secretary of War Pete Hegseeth talking to
Donald Trump about the Pentagon's press policies.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well, very much appreciate the question because it was interesting
to watch. We get a chance to go along on
the historic trip of Middle East, piece which our generation
of veterans never dreamed would be possible. So you would
think that the Pentagon Press Corps, of all press corps
would be front and center across the board on wanting
to give credit to the president for forging this kind

(17:48):
of peace, and unders instead what they want to talk
about as a policy about them, which simply says, maybe
the policy should look like the White House or other
military installations where you have to wear a badge that
identifies that your press, or you can't just roam anywhere
you want. It used to be miss President, the press
can go anywhere pretty much anywhere in the Pentagon, the.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Most classified area in the world.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Or also that if they sign onto the credentially, they're
not going to try to get soldiers to break the.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Law by giving them classified information.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So it's common sense stuff, mister President.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
We're trying to make sure national security is respected, and
we're proud.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Of the policy.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
He seems to be exaggerating just a bit, saying that
the press could go anywhere in the Pentagon. Really, are
they going into skiffs? Are they allowed in there?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Heke Seth. He said that they must agree to these
rules by yesterday or they're going to be evicted from
the Pentagon starting today.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
This is not going to fly. It's not going to work,
and it's not going to last. All right, let's take
a break. Let me come back, Jim, Mary'll be with us.
We'll talk about this. The pulling out about redistricting that
is just horrible for the republic ends also polling out
that's horrible for Mike Brown.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Lots of horrible polling.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey on twenty three WIBC.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Well, the polling is bad for Republicans, what will it
matter in the end?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's Kenny Casey Show.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Rob Casey's here.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Look who it is, Robert thirty years in the Indiana Senate,
the Great Jim Merritt, Hello, Hello, all right. So we
spent a lot of time on this yesterday. We'll get
back into it today. Multiple polls coming out on the
same day, both of them showing the same thing, and
that is that the public overwhelmingly is against redistricting. And

(19:40):
yet your former friends over there in the Indiana Senate
and House, they will not say we're done here.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
Yeah, well they're waffling, waffling. I wonder who pays for
these polls. We didn't talk about that on State Hell's Happenings.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, okay, so I know.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So the two groups, sir, expensive, Well they are three
D Strategic Research is one. The second group in North
Star Opinion Research. Now that's independent Indiana. We know because
we had Nathan Gotcha on yesterday who went, you know,
sort of did a deep dive on.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
The on one of these poles.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But they're all saying the same thing, which is the
public and we're what four or five months into this
just doesn't doesn't want the redistricting.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
They don't want it, and buy big numbers.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Yeah, you know, I said this on State House Happenings.
I hope everybody listens to that coming soon.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Find out wherever you get your podcast?

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Yes, yes, and you released it on like Wednesday afternoon,
that's right. Yeah, we're we're also on Sunday morning, Sunday mornings.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Anyway, I I I don't know what's going on with
these polls. I think that I said this on State
House Happenings that they should have done this in July
or August, pulled the you know, the band aid off.
It would have been you know, no one's paying attention
during the summer. I'm not sure if anybody's paying intention now,
but do it during the summer. I still think US

(21:03):
Representative Frank Mrvan Junior, who is the sitting congressman in
Northwest Indiana Democrat Democrat could survive even a new district
because because he's he beloved, he's a great staff, he
works the different groups, and he just has a great
outreach in his congressional district. So they're gonna have to
have a super Republicans. We will have to have a

(21:25):
superstore in Northwest Indiana to beat Frank Mrvan in twenty
twenty six, regardless of the district. But I think there,
I think the legislature will redistrict. I think they will
call a special session that'll probably started on Organization Day,
which is is the only day left in the year

(21:47):
that they will meet, and they will They will do
it very very lucky he split. They will do it
very very quickly. And yet in the corps takeover them.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, I didn't mean to cut you out, but this
is not gonna be some legitimate thing. I think this
is part of why people who know what's going on
or against this. This is not going to be some
legitimate thing where there's going to be hearings or they're
going around the state like they do with all the
other redistricting stuff. They're not even they're not even gonna
put any effort into this. Here's the map, voted up,
voted down.

Speaker 8 (22:13):
Well, this is why this is why I'm negative on it,
because they did it outsday being the Indian General Assembly
did an outstanding job in twenty twenty one of redrawing
the districts and considering all the factors that you have
to consider, and they had the data to back it up.
There was no lawsuit against those twenty twenty one seats

(22:36):
in the legislature or Congress. And I've been through, you know,
nineteen ninety one, two thousand and one, twenty eleven. I've
seen it. I've seen it three different times, and I've
seen parties being against what we did. But this time
in twenty twenty one, they have the data and no
one challenged it. And and but now the legislature will,

(22:58):
I believe the governor will. We'll call the special session.
He wants to do it. And since he wants to
do it, he should do it because it's his decision
to do it alone. And it's not a loan, it's
it's with the legislature working with him on it. And
uh and the President wants it, the Vice President wants it,

(23:18):
Senator Jim Banks wants it. They've they've made two trips
to Indiana to convince the federal government has lots of
tools to help Indiana, and the legislature will respond.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I want to touch on that real quick and
then we'll move off this because this is kind of
not kind of it's very gross. Basically, what is being
implied here is if you don't do what we want,
this being coming from the Trump people, Well, you're going
to pay, like, there's monies to be had, there's projects

(23:51):
to be had, there's things to be approved, and it'd
be a shame. I mean, they're basically turning into Polly
Walnuts on the Sopranos, where you know, advanced to show
up with those you know, wingtips right, you know, with
a baseball bat and basically al capone at this point.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
And that's pathetic.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
But this is age old. The federal government has always
wield a big tool at the states. The United States government,
for instance, said I said this in state house happenings.
They wanted all the states to be at point of
eight blood blood alcohol content in a driving while intoxicated situation.

(24:34):
We were at point one zero and they threatened, they
threatened to withhold highway moneies, federal highway moneies if we
did not go to point o eight. And so this
is kind of and this is a long time ago.
So the federal government has always done this.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh, but that's not a political act, right, that's a
policy act. I mean, whether you agree with it or not,
they're not saying you need to rig your election maps
to help get more of our guys a they went
to every Democratic Republican state in the Union and said, hey,
you gotta do this.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
This is the new rule.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
I agreed, agreed. I just was giving our audience an
example of how the federal government Shiel's you know, a
pretty big hammer, but in this case, it's all politics.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Jim Merritt is our guest. By the way, speaking of
Jim Marrett, You're gonna be my guest host tomorrow. Yes,
so that should be riveting.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah, thanks you.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Look, I don't mean it like that. Hey, I have
no casey. Sorry, Oh, I look forward to it.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
I don't know about you, but I look forward to it.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, So real quick, I did want to touch on it.
We we got it this yesterday. Those polls that came out,
they pulled about Braun. He stinks. He stinks in both poles.
He's got big problem.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
Yes, and I've said this many times that governors really
make their hay on budget sessions, and they just went
through their first. He just went through his first budget session.
And now he has a coterie of executive orders. We
know that Eric Holcombe had seventy executive orders to govern
or rule Indiana during and I'm not sure that that

(26:03):
the Governor Braun is gonna is going to reach that,
but it's a long time towards so twenty twenty seven
when the next budget is written, and so the Governor
Braun needs to get out into the grassroots. He needs
to talk to mayors. He needs to see exactly what's

(26:24):
going on with the average Hoosier in every corner of
the state. He did this very well as a US senator.
That's how you get your pulling up.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He usually doesn't get better though, right you just like
it's a I mean, there's nothing. There's nothing he did
this session that he can look to and go, well,
just wait till that gets implemented.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
People all love that.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
Well, on April fifteenth, they got a surprise forecast and
which yes they raised.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Here.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Can I give you credit real quick? Yeah, well, of
course you're very humble. Yeah, I know you'll take it,
but I'll you said in the build up to the
end of the session, you said, look, no, do what
the economy is going to be. You're raising these taxes,
a billion dollars in new taxes on this supposed bad economy.
Just wait till June, come back and call it ducted.
At US Special Session and then we'll see if it's

(27:11):
still bad, then you do whatever you're gonna do. Well,
now they've already raised these taxes. And then Capitol Chronicle
reports yesterday, Hey, two hundred and seventy million a head
for the quarter.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well, do we get our tax increases back?

Speaker 8 (27:24):
Yeah? And I did say that. And the government has
to be nimble, and and and and that's a that's silly.
You'd even say much less to expect.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
But always say about Casey every day on the show.
You gotta be nimble, Casey April fifteenth.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
April fifteenth, the Legislature of the Governor should have signed
a dide that meant adjourned session, said we're gonna come
back in June. Everything settles down, and maybe we won't
have to cut so many heads in government. Maybe maybe
we won't have to raise taxes. If so, if we
have to, we can always.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Do it then.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
But the and and and then maybe have a budg
session in the first part of twenty twenty six and
monitor it. It really takes it takes kind of micromanaging
of that budget because the economy comes up and it
goes down, or goes up and comes down, and you
just need to finesse it nuanced, Jim.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Since we're flush with money, My question is are they
going to lower taxes now?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Are we getting it back? Well?

Speaker 8 (28:26):
You know, right now, our friends in city government are
really struggling with their budgets because Senate Bill wan has
has has determined that they're going to have to cut
everything out of city government and it's very difficult to
budget on the run when you're in municipal government.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
All Right, we'll save for how much bronze stinks? Well,
I want to keep this conversation going, but we'll do
it tomorrow because you know, Jim's gona be here tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
Case he is you, I'm inadequate replacement for you.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Are you feeling in for me?

Speaker 8 (29:00):
I am filling in for you.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, Oh my gosh, it's going to be such a
good time for you.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
All right, doesn't think so?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Fine?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yes? He does.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Find him it Jim underline merit on Twitter and there's
may that's the podcast tomorrow, Jim.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
It is Kendilly. Casey, I'm ninety three, WYBC.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Hey, he's back.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Look who it is now?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yay?

Speaker 8 (29:26):
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Good? Did you have a good trip? We missed you?

Speaker 6 (29:30):
How did the Afternoon Drive treacha Miss Casey.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
If you and dumpster Fire she quit in the middle
of it, walked down I.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Slim heads and said, never again.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
That's Jason Hammer.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
By the way, show, I feel like if you and
Nigel do the rock version of a talk show, Jim
and I did the top forty version of the talk show.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Okay, light Titan Bright. Well, I get Jim today, I know,
so I'm going to get every bit of dirt out
of him on you as I possibly can. I warned
him of that and turned you on. Are you taking
open door dumps at home? At the bathroom door open?
We're gonna get into all that this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Case Well, I'm so glad you're back.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
A podcast to do today.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That's right, yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna let Casey make
the Notre Dame pick again because she's two two weeks
in a row.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
She's been right. Why would I do ride the Lightning? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Do you see what we're dealing with here? He doesn't
read the template. He's not even making his own bets.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Well, I get the Notre Dame pick being deferred to you,
but now it's become like he's outsourcing everything and he
still wants his name to be on the marquee, which
is what I yelled at him for last week. So
I'm making the old Miss Georgia pick.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Is the game of the week, that's right, I'll do that.
And I've got a Let's get nuts that I think
you'll find is perfect.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
So I've been doing work all done some stuff like.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Big well in fairness, I was ignoring Casey while we
were on the air making my picks, so.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I mean totally.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
It kind of evens out a little bit. Rob ignores
you for three hours on the air, but he uses
your picks on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
You are fired up about the maryon County GOP. So
I've been a little bit out of the loop.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
I've been up there in God's Country and you know, Jackson,
Wyoming and all those areas.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Got attacked by a moose. Boy, I saw an angry moose.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
I didn't quite get attacked by it, but the moose
was loose.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Maybe.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
So I'm scrolling through social media and listen. Abdul, friend
of mine, you know, we've known each other, disagree with
about ninety nine percent of the stuff he has to say.
But you know, I saw this picture from the Marion
County Lincoln Day dinner. That's right, and this was put
together by the Marion County head what's her name, Natalie Godwin. Yes,
And she's been on the show before and I've reached

(31:38):
out to her, and I feel like she's a little
cold back to us. You know, she came on and
it was fine, but you know, she doesn't always return messages,
and the answers were kind of just stand offish. Okay,
we don't have to be best friends, but I feel
like we have the same goal stop making Marion County
Republican suck. I don't really think it should be a

(31:59):
hot that we have the same goal. So I'm scrolling
through social media and then I see Abdul's post of
what the VIP table looked like at the Marion County
Lincoln Day dinner, and abduels at it. Okay, and I
believe Diego Morales is at it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, So tell me this isn't the worst table at
every wedding. Like in the Adam Samler movie The Wedding Singer,
this was the table that had the lady with sideburns. Yeah,
mutants at table nine, the mutants at table nine, the
fat guy that can't wait to eat, the lady with sideburns.
This is the Marion County VIP table. Yeah, like, listen,
I know Rob, you and Tony Katz don't live here.

(32:37):
But if you would have told me, hey, we're bringing
these guys in from IBC, I would understand that. Casey,
if you were invited, I would understand that I was
out of town and I would have gone anyway. But
no invite to me. But you're gonna put Abdul in there, Like,
come on, this is why you guys are getting your
asses handed to you time after time in Marion County. So, Natalie,

(32:59):
I'm gonna tell you right now, enjoy this, but reach
out to me. Okay. I've done event planning before for
some major companies and again we got the same goal. Natalie,
you or your people reach out to me. Let's fix
this thing, because you can't have that VIP table of stiffs.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You just can't on this seating chart.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yeah, and here in five years from now, when it's
Chris Hammer's Marion County Republican Mourning, which, by the way,
the fundraising we've already got promises from major business, all
the corporations, will you will.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
You reveal who they are? Will be like a trip
to India, or we'll be transparent.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
About special donor.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Yeah, he's not gonna be flying over to Dublin or
India or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I pay for Dublin.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Uh No, this is gonna be Chris Hammer's party in
a few years. And listen, we're bringing everybody back, right,
the establishment squish and even the people like me that
feel like, yeah, if it makes me a Republican a
bad standing, then I say, Eric holcomes a total zero
and a third, so be it. But we're gonna circle
the wagons. Man, We're getting everybody back. Doesn't seem like
the current party head wants to do that by putting

(34:03):
that table of stiffs at the VIP section.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, there's just not.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
A lot of fighting these people, And I think that's
the thing. I think that's what's so frustrating collectively, whether
it's the city, the seven to six Republicans on the
city council or the candidates they run for public office
for mayor prosecutor, there's just no fighting these people.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
And as an event planner, right like politics aside, I'm
just thinking of the marketing and the event. Can you
imagine paying X amount of money to sit at a
VIP table.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Oh, this is the guy that has the.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Weekend show on WIBC, that ran for mayor and got
third in the primary. We're really looking forward to the midterms.
Fire everybody up.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
How much you think that costs? That VIP table?

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Too damn much, too damn much. The rent is too
damn high, and that.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Table is way too expensive. It is. There is a
real date.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
I like Abdul.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
He's a good dude.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Like I could go in the back. We could take
a shot of whiskey right now and we would talk
crap about each other.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, but I mean, come on, there is a real
disconnect with the Marion County Republican Party and how to
get people fired.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Up about what you're doing right.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I mean, you've got to you got inspired, not just
your own people, but you got to inspire people who
aren't Republicans to want to vote for you.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
This was the party that didn't call out Gabe Whitley.
So again, approximately five years from now, what it was
the reign of Chris Hammer, who's more conservative than I
am even you know.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I forgot he was a person until you just mentioned him.
Because he's just riding away. I think I think he's
still riding away in the Marion County jail.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
One of the good things about abduels he keeps me
updated on that loser. So yeah, I think he's still
he Well, he refused to wear his ankle monitor was
the story that I got.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And so they say he just likes being in there. Well,
I mean, it's three hots in a cot, right.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Doesn't have another case coming up to I was.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
So hoping him and Sanchez would have a would have
been staring up.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Like a lot of Hedrick's stories about what happens behind
bars are true. Here in Marion County. This is like,
you know, like a vacation for Gbe Whitley over there.
He's having a good time, right.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Hey, what are you doing today? You're back? What are
you doing?

Speaker 6 (36:07):
So he doesn't know yet, I have no idea. My
plane got delayed and I got in Indie last night
about two thirty am. So I'm working with Casey's husband today.
I mean, we're just gonna get real, just personal on you.
Podcast comes out later on, and we're gonna have a
lot of fun. Man, Glad to be back.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Can you get back to two thirty? Dude?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
We got delayed in Wyoming and then we got delayed
at our layover.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
You know how you don't get delayed.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Don't fly and get on an airplane and not do
your own picks on a gambling show.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
That's how you say it.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Time, Thank you hammer. If you're listening to Kendally Casey,
it's ninety three WIBC.
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