Kendall & Casey Hour 2, 10-16-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So there's a big protest set to take place the
State House on Saturday. I don't know what they're trying
to accomplish, though, so let's get to the bottom of it.
It's Kennell and Casey said, that's a problem. Yeah, well
that's this is always the problem with these people. I
don't know what they're trying to accomplish. I'm Rob case

(00:20):
is out today. Jam Merritt in for for Casey thirty
years in the Indiana Senate. First of all, like I said,
you spent thirty years in the Indiana Senate. I did
a protest and you, I'm sure you saw many, many
many of them over the years. Did a protest ever
move you on public policy?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know, I don't know if you remember the red
shirt of the teachers.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Angry red shirted teachers. Yes, yes, we had a lot
of fun.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
With them, Yes, and they packed the State House. Didn't
bother me a bit.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Know what about your colleagues, Well, I don't know, I
don't remember it.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, did they have a movement.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Because you were the number two guy in the Senate,
which meant you were sort of like the dad of
the sidate, did some cowardly freshman senator come running into you.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh oh, mister mearethy agre read shirted teachers.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
There's thousands up there.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We got to do it like idy of that.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, if there was a myster I was a senator
here and you know what son, and you know, I
don't worry about titles. But no, I don't think any
even members. Our caucus was so patient and so you know,
a public policy oriented and so tied together that I

(01:28):
think the only only protests that went through the State
House that bothered our caucus, the Republican Senate Republican caucus
was RIFFRAM. Oh yeah, and because.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, wait wait, wait, just I'm sure most people are
familiar with this, but just in case some people are not.
RIFFRA was twenty fifteen. It was the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
It was sort of sparked out of this famous case
about the cake. It can you be forced to bake
the cake or make the cake for a gay couple?
And then there was this policy you guys passed about

(02:00):
people can object to or not do things based on
their religious you know, belief system. There was absolutely no
I mean I shouldn't say no, but there was very
little media attention to this thing during debates, discussion, It
went on for months.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nothing, nobody protests, nobody, nobody testified against it, and committee.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It passed, passed.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Then people lost their mind boom, and then Mike Pence,
because he's an idiot, went on George Stephanopolis and totally
melted down on national television.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
He also saw the bill signing with what looked like
the last Supper.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it was like a Saturday Night Live skit, yes
on his bills on Yeah. I mean they handled it well,
that's because look at the people Pence surrounded himself with,
just like Braun, they had no idea what they were doing.
And then this thing becomes this national attention that all
these conventions were threatening to pull out and leave it.
You guys totally cave, by the way, Merritt, you totally
gave in, and you did some fix that didn't fix anything,

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and most people said made it worse.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, yeah, thanks for your service, and you know we
did cave. And and you can say that blatantly right
now and and back then. In Napolis in my lifetime
has been built on convention, built on groups meeting here
in largeness and that and that's really why we have
flourished along with you know, the sports activities. But uh

(03:20):
it back then we saw the NBA All Star be
a game being taken out of Charlotte because of what
North Carolina did, and and the the the Chamber commerce,
the business community, everybody was tagging onto us and uh
and and we responded, and we had a trailer bill

(03:41):
we signed it, and and and and the governor signed it.
Uh and it just really took us by surprise. And
we've had twenty five thousand people walking through that State
House and didn't bother us a bit.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yes, but that was another look you know, I love you,
But that was because you guys were afraid of the
business impact of this, not because people were protesting you guys. Absolutely,
it had nothing to do with the lunatics on the lawn.
It was because these business groups, the trade association whatever came.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
To you and we're like, we're pulling out unless you
guys fix this.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
It all revolves around Monday, like everything else.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Thank you very good.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, So I mentioned all of this because this No
King's protest is going on Saturday on the lawn at
the State House. Now, they had one of these earlier.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
This year.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
It drew about four thousand people, according to Indie Star
was the estimate. It's noon to three this Saturday on
the south lawn of the State House. But I don't
understand what they're trying to accomplish and who they're And
it seems like this happens with a lot with the left,
Like were you having recently put together a rally which

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ultimately we were lied to and ignored in the order
in which was received. But we put a thousand people
in the State House. So we felt pretty good going
out of there because the governor rolled up and sleeves
and said, I'm with you right like we.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Were playing to an audience of one.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
And he responded, and we thought, Okay, we're trying to
get something done here. I don't know what these people
are screaming about or what they expect Indiana to do
about it.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, and just be cleary. I get text a lot
after State House happenings. People angry with me. Now they're
angry with me that I'm on here with you.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Just your mere existence in my present. This is let's
pause for a second. This you have ruined my life.
So Jim and I, this is a real reset this.
Jim and I have been working together for about nine
years now, right, And I showed up in Gym's or
but I had a nightly It wasn't Community Affairs, but

(05:44):
it was really based around like it was.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
It was not this show.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
It was I interviewed people, newsmakers, public policy people on
a on a station in Hendricks County. It was very
popular in the county, which how I ended up here.
But it was not the rather intense version of program
that we have here each day that is so beloved.
And you were doing I think this was the Lifeline
law something related to that, and I had I had
emailed Jim and I said, I'm very interested in this.

(06:09):
I'd like to interview you. You said, well, sure, come
on down to the State House.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
But in reality reality, I was saying, m.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, that's what it all went south for you.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That and when you let you somehow finagled so that
I got into the Governor's office.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh yeah, that was that was the day of the
state of the state.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But anyway pointed all this is uh, I find that
fascinating that your mere existence with me is enough to
enrage people that they send you derogatory messages.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, yeah, and I'm constantly being corrected, and you know
in life, in on the radio, but I'm told Riffra
originally came out of a case for a guide to
be able to smoke peote as a part of a
religious ceremony.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
I never heard that in any of the knew that either,
and you were there did at any point at any point?
Did Brian Bosma or David Long stand up ago?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now this is about a man being able to smoke peyote?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, But you know, back to the Kings folks. Uh,
you know the reason, the reason why your protest went
over so well is number one, you promoted it. Yeah,
you were clear with the message. You you you gathered,
you had signs, you made noise, you had you had
a thousand people there. But you also did it when

(07:27):
you knew the governor was in town, right, and the
legislature was there. Every everything worked together on a fabulous
presentation that you and Casey and whoever else gave and
and the governor spoke. I mean, it all fell together well,
and I'm surprised you got this done because of you.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, here's what here, So here's what happened that day.
And look we'll give credit. This was back when he
actually gave a damn Micah helped with that, and you
need people on the inside of the question, so he
gave the facade of helping. And then of course than
he had to start doing work in that one. Go
work out.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
If you're going to have a protest, you've got to
have people working on inside the limestone and the Kings don't.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, and with Braun, he thought there are going to
be ten people there and he turned around that corner
that I'm onna go and wave and leave, and he
saw those people and he got all caught up in
the moment. The thousand people were cheered and chant he
rolled up and slaved and blah blah blah. But this
is the point, right, what's the focus of this? And
it brings me to this is the problem with the

(08:28):
Democrat Party. What's his face that most of these people
are directly affiliated with the far many of them, many
of them with the far left of the Democrat Party.
What are you screaming about? And what do you want
these people in the General Assembly to do? Because all
you're doing now is you're sort of just tainting your
ability to get actual public policy done. That these people can.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, it goes back to two thousand and seven when
everybody is protesting property tax issues. And they pointed at
Mayor Bart Peterson who had not really relatively nothing to
do with party taxes and proper tax reform, but they
carried it and and made you had you have to
have an object, you have to have a goal. And
and Mayor Pearson loses and and I was I was

(09:11):
part of that campaign, and and you just saw it
unfolding and and whatever this King's rally is going to
be is they don't have an epicenter. They don't have
a focus, they don't have a spotlight. They really don't
have a bad guy. You know, somebody that is is
in there, you know in their ice sighte.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well this is about Trump, right, But you're just affirming
yourself you're not And you're doing a Saturday when nobody's
there anyway.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's why when people were like, why are you guys
doing your protests during the day, Why are you doing
it on a weekday, Because that's when the people are.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Gonna be there that you're trying to buy motivate, right, Yeah,
and you.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Know we had twenty five thousand people walk through when
we're talking about labor issue in the mid nineties. But
but when when they start taking conventions away from Indianapolis
and riffers the issue. You you, I don't want to say, kay,
but you count your cards and you put them on
the table and you get the job done to men
to bill, regardless if it had any effect or not.

(10:10):
We took the steps that needed to take the issue out.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, and you know, I know there's a there list
of bevy of things that're said about and one of
the local things I think is redistricting, which hey on
board with that, but doing it on a Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's not like everybody's thinking about IU football.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
And exactly right.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
The mindset is, I don't know, to protest, you have
to capture, you have to you know, there won't be
any media there on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well that's the other point you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And even though those that will show up, which you
know people will come, but it's Saturday afternoon. It's gonna
die on a Saturday evening news cycle and then boom,
we're done and you're back to Monday and.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Talking on this on this radio station this morning. We
are doing them a favor. Yeah, because I wouldn't have
never known about it unless it was an issue today.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Hey, speaking of issues and what we do, Nikki Kelly,
one of the best in the business from the Indiana
Capitol Chronicle join us.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Next.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
We will talk about redistricting. We'll talk about this big
meeting with the borders are coming to talk to the
General Assembly. We'll talk about all the money that's flowing
into the state of Indiana. A lot to get to
It's Kennley Casey Show ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well as years old. There's a lot going on in
the Indiana politics and government.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And to get to the bottom of as much of
it as we can, we go to one of the
best of the business.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Joining us now in the WIBC hotline. Nikki Kelly from
the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Nikki Kelly, Hello, good morning.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay, So let's start with this. This perplexes me beyond
belief because it appears nobody seems to want it in Indiana,
yet our legislators won't let it die. That is redistricting.
Two polls came out this week, both saying the same thing.
The public is overwhelmingly against this. Have you ever the
governor slash General Assembly refused to let something go that

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has such a lack of public support.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, to be fair, I don't. I think they're willing
to let it go. I think they wanted to just
be quiet and let the time run out. I think
the Trump administration is not letting them let it go.
So that's where the pressure is coming from. I think
if it were up to legislative leadership, they would never
make a quote official decision. It just wouldn't happen. So

(12:34):
I think that's where we're at on that, and the
Trump administration wants, you know, wants them to move forward.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, so they've been at this for months now, do
you have a read on this? Do they just not
have the votes? Is that why they're not going forward?

Speaker 5 (12:50):
My understanding is that the Senate probably, I mean the
House easily has the votes and maybe not easily, but
they have the votes. The Senate does not. And the
key though, is in the Senate at least. Is it's
one thing to say no behind closed doors, but if

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if the governor would go ahead and call a special
session without waiting for the go ahead, so to speak,
from legislative leaders. I mean that would put some people
on the spot to actually have to vote no in public,
and I think that's a much harder thing than to
just you know, take a private whip count and they
would have to stand by that no. And also, you know,

(13:33):
I've heard that there's some threats I guess is the
right word of, you know, primiering people who don't go
along with this and or supporting people who do through
a war chest.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So there, whether if it's four or five public polls
now that have come out, they've all basically shown the
same thing, which is the public is against us, and
by pretty wide margins.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
It sort of varies depending on the poll.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Have you been able to sort of parse to that
on why the public isn't supportive of redistricting?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I mean, not anymore than just talking to people at
rallies and things like that. I mean, I think I don't.
We can't find a time at least no one's given
one up. And I tried to go through the history.
We've certainly found redistrictions that happened late that they didn't
do until later. But I don't I think it would
be unprecedented that we do it early at least in

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modern history. And so I think that alone is putting
people off, that, you know, and also the fact that
they can't I guess, you know, distill a reason other
than pure politics. I mean, that's literally all it is.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You've been doing this for what twenty five years now
or more. Do you ever remember a time where they
just straight up admitted I mean this the like Andrew
Ireland State Rep.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Has admitted it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Braun obviously is admitted there just doing it because of politics.
Do you ever remember just an ended mission from the leaders, Yeah,
we're just doing this for politics.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
No, but I mean, redistricting kind of is all about politics.
So it's kind of hard to get around that. And
there was a great story that State Affairs Indiana did
recently where they pulled all the quotes from leaders, quotes
from press releases, from hearings, from press conferences about how

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wonderful these maps are from twenty twenty one, and so
it's fascinating. You know, it's going to be very hard
for the for Bray in Houston, especially especially after this
complete silence for months now, to come out and just somehow,
you know, full throatedly get on board.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Niki Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle is our guest. The
other big event this week, Tom Holman, he's the borders
are for Trump. He was in town, gave a speech
to the Indiana General Assembly. Todd Rakeita was there. What
was his goal on this? What was the goal of this?
Because Indiana seems like it's already a pretty supportive state
of all the Trump immigration measures.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean the goal is just they're they're trying
a new push for this bill that didn't make it
through last year, and they're bringing in big names to
get behind it, to put extra pressure on it. Obviously. Yeah,
Indiana fully behind the situation. We've you know, we've got
we're holding migrants and deportees, we are cooperating with police,

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we have you know, been behind everything. But that bill
has a lot in it that goes a lot further
than some lawmakers are ready to go. It would give
the Attorney General's office a lot more power. One small
example is just the you know, the Attorney general can
issue what they cost civil investigative demands, and recently they

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issued some down in southern Indiana, a business and a
refugee organization and a judge said, no, this is just
a phishing expedition. I'm not letting this happen. But that
bill would pretty much make it easy because it would
give the Attorney General so much more power. It would
require sheriffs to honor detainer requests. Right now, they're called

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detainer requests because it's a request. They are not judicially
approved warrants for arrest. So a lot of sheriffs are
uncomfortable with that. And it has a whole section about
businesses being held accountable for hiring illegal workers. And I
think businesses are fine but being held accountable if they

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know it. But the wording in the bill is pretty
you know, it would be very easy to catch businesses
who didn't know. So you know, those are it's a
big bill and they're they're trying to push it agin
this year.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well that you just hit the nail on the head
with this, which is this sort of scene like it
was a Todd roketa glorified floorsha. Now he hates this
Liz Brown woman who is the Senator from Fort Wayne,
who he blames for killing this bill. This almost seemed
like a very vendetta driven thing geared towards one person,
and I think you just hit the nail on the head.

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Her thing has been, Hey, there's a whole bunch of
stuff in here. I want to help with detaining I
legal immigrants, but there's a lot of bad stuff. She's
got to start doing a better job of explaining this.
So they're going to take her down.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, And everyone's focusing on Liz Brown, and that's fair.
She's the chairwoman and she made the decision. But let's
be clear. If rod Ray and the Senate Republican Caucus
wanted that bill, he would simply moved it to another committee,
as he has done in the past with bills that
Liz Brown blocked. And they didn't choose to do that,
And I assume that's because they had some internal caucus

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discussions and decided not to move forward with it.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Nicki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guest.
Couple of minutes left with her. Now, you guys had
a big I think you were actually the writer on
this reporter on this that somehow they were way off
on revenue. They did a panic attack at the end
of the legislative session because they said the revenues were
going to be way down, cut a bunch of things,
raised taxes, and now you guys are reporting, Hey, they

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did really well the first quarter.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, and you know, look, I revenue predicting is you know,
way out of my baiywick. But yeah, they dropped the
revenue projection so much that now it looks like, oh,
everything's great because I think maybe the revenue forecast team

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and it is a bipartisan team, and there's economic outlooks
and things like that, very complicated stuff, but you know,
maybe the economy didn't go down as much as they thought.
So now yeah, we're coming in above which is great.
You know, a couple hundred million, which to real people
is a lot, but to do a twenty billion dollar budget,

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you know, it's a small amount. But hopefully maybe if
the next quarter goes well, you never know, maybe the
executive branch can stop laying people off or something.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
One of the best in the business finder over at
Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot Com, Nikki Kelly.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Thank you all right, you guys have a good day.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, thank you. It's Kennell Casey Show ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So there is massive money flying into the Secretary of
States race on both sides and I want to get
to the bottom of this. But first we had a
big announcement during the last segment or commercial break, we
found out Jim Merritt's a Jackson Brown fan.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yes, yes, I yah, welcome to the family.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know, if he had anything about money, maybe Kevin
would would have because bo Bai is all about money
right now.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yes, so this is very very interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Of course, Diego Morales the current Secretary of State, he's
raised already over a million dollars. And look, he's been
very good at handing out contracts from his office and
those people were very nice to return in many cases sizeable.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Donations to his to his works. Has probably a big
coincidence there.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, well it's going to be a high profile race
next year, no question about it.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
But it now comes out our old Pala Indie reporter
amongst others, have been all over this, that Bobai and
what he's been at it a couple of weeks already
has raised more than five hundred thousand dollars already, just
in a couple of weeks. That's not even tapping into
is of course, his his father was Evan.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Is getting the old band together well.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
That's you know, he had what a million dollars or
whatever left in his campaign account from when he ran
for Senate the last time.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think it is a lot more than that, was it?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay? Yeah, So the I mean he hasn't even into.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That six million.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So so point on all of this is there's going
to be probably, I mean, you know, we've got a
ways to go on this, but there could be well,
well in excess potentially of seven or eight million dollars
spent on this secretary of state's race next year in
the state of India.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think that I think I think that is not
a bold prediction. I think that is exactly right. I
think it's going to be more than that. You know,
the Democrats back then and when Evan was running for
Secretary of State was we're just looking for a beachhead
to start fundraising for him to run for governor. It's

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the same thing here. They're trying to figure out how
to break the Republican clinch on Indiana, and bo Bay
is their tool.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Well, so that's what's fascinating about this to me, because
you know, whether you're deeply interested in Indiana politics maybe
the way we are or not you need to be
interested in this race because there's like so many things
that will happen as a result of this race and
the outcome of this race.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
And first and foremost, it's sort.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Of like Custer's last stand for the Democrats. If this
guy with that name and all this money that he's
going to raise, if he can't win, the Democrats might
as well just pack it up as a party and
just say we're done here.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, and also I noticed that a friend of of Evan,
Evan buys, I guess we call him senator by former
senator by.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Wait, wait, what's what's higher? Are you? Are you governor
or senator? What's the higher? First?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think I think I think it's senator By. If you,
if you will, Teddy Roosevelt like being called colonel instead
of president, we will.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Call him colonel By.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
But if if the forum says senator By, so senator
is a head of governor, yes, I would think so,
because because that was that was the last office that he.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Okay, so say, and you know me, I never want
to have bad decora, of course, so we'll call him
senator by.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well anyway, yes, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
But but one of his friends is now employing young
bo Bye as a in his law firm, and so
all the group is being reformed and being brought back
together again. And this will be if he raised this
amount of money in just a short amount of time.

(24:12):
He's got plenty left in the tank. His dad's going
to give him a lot of his campaign money. If
not all, Joe Hogsitt, who's like an uncle Debo Mayor
of Indianapolis, will be raising money for him, giving him money.
There won't be a problem with money in this race.
And for a secretary of State's race, which most people

(24:33):
don't know what the Secretary of State actually does, this
will be a ten to fifteen million dollars race, but it.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Really does put on the other So then this there's
a second prong of this, which is this is showing
you how important this office actually is.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
That people are willing.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
They're not doing it for comptroller, they're not even doing
it for state treasurer. You're seeing this money flood in
because of all the things that this office actually controls,
from elections right to business licensure. And there's a lot
on the line on who's going to end up running
this office.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It is a very important office. But Also, I'm sure
somebody's pulled looking at least the controller, looking at Dan Elliott,
the State treasure and they see Diego which may have
poor we don't know, but poor poll numbers.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, there's two polls that have come out and he
most people had no idea who the guy was, but
those who did, he was way underwater those twos.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So you go towards where the weakness is. Also with
the importance of the office as well as the fact
that a boat can run in twenty six if he
should win, which I don't think he will, but should
he win, he's already got the fundraising machine ready, all
ready to go in twenty eight and that's really what
his dad did successfully.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And then the third part of this at like as
a political nerd, this just really excites me. But we
always talk about obviously fifty thousand ish people a day,
we're talking to a wide variety of people, and why
they need to care about it even if you're not
super into politics. But the third thing is that one
would assume with all of this money that Bobai is

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going to raise or is raising, he will shine a
light on who Diego Morales is and will attempt to
if he does this right, indict as many Republicans in
the process who have either facilitated or at the very
least totally turned a blind eye to all the crap
that Diego Morales has pulled in the very short time

(26:37):
he's been in that office. And it's an opportunity really
to potentially do some damage to the Republican Party through
this guy's campaign that may may have may not, but
it may have a lasting impact.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But the other on the other side of it is
that the Republican Party will batten the hatches down. They
will support with Diego, with money and with with boots
on the ground. It will it will fortify the Republicans effort.
It's a lot like what happened in Carmel and in
the mayor race. The Republican Party came together because that

(27:12):
city is becoming purple and Mario maslami uh did a
really good job of bringing everybody home and getting getting
out and talking to it, doing the what a party
should do. And this is an opportunity for the party
to coalesce around Diego. Yeah, and you know, and you
know the thing is Diego wins. He might want to
be governor in twenty.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Eight as well.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, but Sue Ingham's just a bad mayor. She not
a dirt ball like Diego. I mean, it's gonna be
a lot harder if he's the nominee to coal us
around that given all. I don't I think Sue Ingham was,
you know, saddled with any scandals the way that that
Diego is. I mean, this is the great thing about this.
Diego can cannot reveal who paid for India. I bet
the buyers are going to figure out who paid for

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that drive.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
My point is is I live in wes Carmel now
and uh Todd Young, who's a very good candidate tied
in my precinct with the Democrat, and and U and
Diego barely want it as a as a county or
as a as a city. My point is is they
had to coalesce everybody behind Sue when she ran for

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election as a first time mayor. And that is what
the state's going to have to do as a Republican party.
Come together and and support Diego financially and boots on
the ground, and that's how he beat bo Bai.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Bobai will be with us tomorrow. That's a big interview
for him. Yeah, he's got to win people here.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yes, yes, he does. If he doesn't win Central Indiana,
or if he doesn't win Marion County, big big, big big,
because we know, we know how blue it is. Uh,
he will not compete with Diego statewide.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
But he's got to convince a lot of not just independence,
but he's got to convince Republicans to vote for him too.
He can't win it without convincing some people to go.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. And when his dad broke in and was governor, Uh,
the Democrat Party was something that most of the people in
that party were proud of and that had issues and
that that really represented, you know, a moderate standpoint. And
and what you see in the Democrat Party is they
have no issues. They're very leftists, and and they just

(29:15):
don't run good statewide campaigns. And that's why they don't
have any members that are in office right now of
their party.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
All Right, So he'll be with us tomorrow. A little
promo for that. We'll take a break. Hammer's gonna join
us next. Kenny Casey Show ninety three WIBC. All right,
I know you got big plans for this segment, but
before we get into it, I heard a promo Cats
is doing something at kill Roy's in Broad Ripple. How
did Cats get chosen to do something at kill Roy's and.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Broad Ripple rather than Big Tony Kats. Yeah, that's right,
it's Kelly Casey's show.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm Rob Merritt's and for Casey, Jason Hammer, Hello, that
should have been you, because like, you still go to
these types of places, even though you're way too old
to be there. You still try to say hello fellow
kids and walk into set establishments. I've drank way too
much at these places. I've dated people who have worked
at these places. I've checked all the.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
Boxes and being the host that should go to these places.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Just think twenty years from now, Olivia is gonna be
in these places.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Is not going to be anything places Jim Merritt, She's
gonna be locked her room.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
This sounds familiar.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
You know what I thought was really entertaining was a
couple of segments ago. You guys just giving each other crap.
You know, Rob's giving you crap on your voting record.
You're giving it right back because of how unlikable and
fugly he is.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
It's perfect.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
So I wanted to continue this because I think this
is what the people want. Oh, so here's what we're
gonna do here. In just a moment, I'm gonna put
thirty seconds of the clock. It's a clock with a
buzzer at the end. That's exactly thirty seconds. Mister Merritt,
do you believe you could roast Rob Kendall for thirty
seconds NonStop?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
He is a limited material.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yes, no way, he's too nice. There's no way he
can do it. He's too nice. I don't believe he
can do it.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Let's find out, all right, here we go, when we
start the clock. Begin, Okay, Kevin, hit it.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Rob. You have no friends, You've got Rob, You've got
fake hair, Yes, go go Rob? You you you really
have no life other than what you're a terrible dad.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
Horrible dad, hand mac and cheese.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Your mother dresses you funny. Yes, yes, right, that wasn't bad.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
That was much meaner than I thought you had in you. Yes,
I've never seen him get angry. I like Ned Flanders.
I've never seen him get angry.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know the customer. You know, when we had my
I've got a son and two daughters, and we had
either girlfriends or boyfriends come through the house, and we
had Dad's word list and it's words that you just
don't say in our household. Yeah, and if somebody wanted
a copy of the word list to make sure they
didn't say it. If you think it and you think

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it's on the list, don't say it.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah. It was like, shucks. You want to give that
a shot? I bet you could do.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Okay, Well, I was going to give you dealer's choice, okay,
because I was going to let you do it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
But you can pick your opponent.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
It can either be ripping on Merit for thirty seconds
or ripping on me for thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Oh I'm going to take Merit.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh okay, you got a lot Hammer's fat. You know.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I just gave you the green light to rip on Rob.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
All right, so you're going to do Jim Merritt.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Just remember I love you, Jim.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Oh all right. I should have put that in front
of mine too.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Kevin hit it, Jim. Your campaign for mayor was a disaster.
I've never seen a weaker operation.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You're a weaker candidate.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
You were awful as a senator.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
All the tax increases, have so many people and riffra What.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
The hell are you guys? Thinking with that.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Let's go, Jim.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I can't believe you ever thought you would be governor
someday and Jim on behalf of Hoosiers everywhere.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Thanks for absolutely nothing I thought you're gonna say, I suck.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Like I could listen to a full show of this
back and you guys like the two old muppets.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
That's right now. It's better than being in the in
the balcony with those two old men. All right.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So you were on the fan earlier today. I heard
you competing against us. Thanks for doing that.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
By the way, well somebody's got to bring some revenue
into this joint.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
WHOA.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So you go on the fan, our sister station, the Fan,
the sports talk station every every Thursday, right.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yes, and promoting the Degenerates next Door podcast and we
talk a little Thursday night football.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Now tonight we've got a couple old dudes in the spotlight,
Aaron Rodger, Yeah, and Joe Flacco. And I made the
comperia on the fan this morning that tonight for Joe Flacco.
I'm calling this the old guy at the bachelor party game.
Now here's what I mean by this.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Follow me here.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
When you're at a bachelor party like you think it's
you and your buddies and maybe your frat bros friends
from high school.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
You guys are going to be the ones.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Getting crazy, But the real reality is anybody that's been
to a bachelor party knows.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It's the dads. It's the uncles.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
They're the ones getting loose cause it's their night out.
They don't go out as much as you guys do,
so they're buying the drinks. Sure, they're buying the shots,
They're doing the dances like this is their night out.
So they're the ones you want to hang out with,
which brings me to Joe Flacco tonight. Joey Flax probably
didn't think he'd be.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
In this position, right, He was going to be a
backup or maybe out of the league.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
But here he is tonight, starting at home on national television.
This is the old guy at the bachelor party. He's
not going to have many more opportunities. This is his
night out, so he's going to try to put on
a show and keep an eye on some points.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Tonight, Marrett throwing around the yard, Merrit, You ever got
super liquored up in public before?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Never? Never what I thought it was. In truth, I
thought you're gonna say, is Dad's weekend and I you.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
The same same philosophy.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, I can see that now. I would ask this
to Nigel, but we all know the answer. It's last
week you post forty. You ever gotten drank more than
you than you?

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Last week.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
I had a designated driver for the Coaches Tavern show
and let's just say that the coupon.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Lady was not real happy with me.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Oh what, you're embarrassing your family. I don't ever want
to see you.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Get that drunk again.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Like I got these speech where the teeth are clinched,
but you can still hear words.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Coming out what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
And the impressive thing is she said that to you
your twenties, in your thirties, and now your forties.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
It's over.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
And I'm just trying to be consistent. That's what this
marriage is based off of consistency. What are you doing
this afternoon? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
We've got the biggest stories in Indie.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
The dude Jim is going to be my co host
this afternoon and you're going to come by and go
off the rails, all right, James Briggs from The Indies Star,
I go to join us next, he's got a great
column about how much hawk set sucks when it comes
to Thomas, Carl Cook sucks.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Let's Go Baby ninety three WBC