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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's
find out. It's kind of a case. He show him.
Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai
joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So, first question, why would you want to do this
to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working
for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are
you running for secretary of state?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants,
and I was always taught that public servants should serve
people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state.
I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House,
and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's
using his position as an elected official to benefit himself,
to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean,
the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money
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on a luxury suv.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just
a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes
an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell
us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel.
He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera.
The list on. I want to live a life of service.
I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When
you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty,
you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office
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is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan
is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the
wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent
audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the
car off the do you do that? We'll wait on
that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like.
And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too.
Still that new car smell.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's get I want to get to what you're
gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing
that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get
this all the time, you come from a very famous
political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa
is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You
step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's
who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics.
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How are you going to handle that as you run
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our
state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to
the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control.
It's just kind of who I am. But I got
to be my own person. I am my own person,
and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen
months or so to the November of twenty twenty six
showing people who I am. I got to be my
own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad
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briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried
to get back involved in politics.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says,
with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're
calling the arch manning by the way, So what if
you're not very good, you could very well be very good.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We hope you're very good. But you know, you see
that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael
Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard
to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers,
And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal
with that because sometimes that's not easy for people.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah,
my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah,
So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom
always like say to me growing up, never never try
to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good
at it. People could smell a phony from mile away.
It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same
in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just
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gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to
this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean
you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think
it was yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The public polling shows that nobody knows in our state
who Diego Morales is, and the people that do know
don't like him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys
our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is
that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's
way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand,
all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about
it yet. Does that work in your favor?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get
to all the ninety two counties of our state, and
I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame
people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about
the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state.
I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media,
and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around
all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him.
I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right
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person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The
office has nothing to do with your political party. It
has to do with good government. I mean the guys
wasting our money. People work really hard for their money.
I'm gonna save people money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, So.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think a lot of people are gonna be very
interested on how you sort of overcome the Democrat challenge,
which is, hey, it's a sixty to forty state. Obviously
the Democrats. It's been a long time since I guess what,
Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz So it's been a
decade plus. How do you get enough Republican leaning voters
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to vote for you to make up that pretty big
gap in terms of voter voter tendencies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For lack of a good question, the best thing about
this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans.
You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our
secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us
who's paying for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Man, we're count on you to find out who paid
for the thing. That's your job.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring
you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have
had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When
they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or
one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy.
Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
State?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire.
Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of
this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting
out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy,
Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign
donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look,
he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses
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in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your
listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your
new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting
a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and
this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors.
That is not a good partner. How can you trust
that person to help you found your business and be successful.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And
by the way, I think that's great that you're going
to do that, because I think we talked about this
on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales,
there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit
in what he's doing. I think most people that say
does know exactly what he is. And the fact that
the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general
won't do anything about it. It's really going to take
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somebody to get in that office because you will get
access to all the stuff. You're going to be able
to open those doors.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're right, and look, this is this goes to the
heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I
think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with
me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales
is the product of twenty five years of no competition
in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business,
if you have if there are no competing businesses in
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an area, the one business in town can jack up
their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He
does not feel like he has to take good actions,
good steps for good government, because he feels like there
are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to
find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We
need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters.
It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office
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who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at
their jobs, are not going to lie to you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I try to make this case. A lot on
this program, and I hear from people, many people they
will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful.
They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I
just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party
and I just can't deal with that. How do you
overcome when there are some very loud voices in your
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party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open
to voting for you. How do you deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look,
both political parties need to focus on the issues that
matter to most people. Most people people care about cost
of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof
here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the
AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company.
I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high.
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Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure
to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that
people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it
have been focused on things for way too long that
are just not the main issue for most people. So
you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters
of the other party focus on the things that matter
to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad
was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey,
what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you
have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey,
I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and
we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week,
Like what are those conversations?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he
gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there,
and you know that can be good and bad, but
you know it's this is my own thing. I got
to make my own way. And you might in twenty
sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a
ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get
that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But
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he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by
a healthy margin to an.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Idiot to Todd Young.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you
will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He
actually he I had a problem with my g I
built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were
on it right away, So I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've
been here for ten minutes and you did not mention
you were a marine, which is way more than you
ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, look, I appreciate his service.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or Secretary of State.
Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll get
to some of the issues. How does he feel about
voter I D How does he feel about ballot initiatives?
We'll get to that in a lot more. Kennel A
Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get good after
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in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for Secretary of State.
He is our guest, so let's talk about some of
the positions you have. You have said, I think it
is a very smart voter id off table. We're not
touching voter id long.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we rob by the way. We in our state
must have secure elections. There is no room, no room
in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token,
I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom
of the country in voter participation.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Why is that is because.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The number one reason I've read studies about this, I
doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest
with you, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Think he cares.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Voter apathy. People don't go to the polls because they
feel like their voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting
their ballot into the abyss. Your listeners know about this
partisan redistricting effort that's going on. Yeah, what do you
think that's going to do to voter apathy? If we
further gerrymander our congressional maps where where we have very
non competitive elections, people are not going to go to the
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polls because they're going to say, why am I voting?
This outcome is predetermined.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think the big thing for you, though, is
you're fine with voter id in the state of media.
You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay,
let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an
act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief,
would have some sway over that in terms of public influence.
Where are you out on ballot referendums.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri,
and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process.
I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country
and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed
by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks
in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're
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just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one
of these people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's living a great life in Carmel and with his
new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look,
can you imagine the energy that we can build in
our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we
let the people decide to have a voice in the
big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout,
that's going to get people out to the polls. I
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have a lot of faith robbed like you do in
Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one
hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests
in the state House. I have faith in the in
Hoosiers deciding this.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Do you feel pressure that?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Look?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of
like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana.
I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name,
with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be
a much better candidate than what they put forward in
the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy
can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know. I don't think about things that way.
All I can do is focus. You know, you're are
you football fan?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while
I paid for it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we
focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through,
best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter
in the game. You can't think about all these you know,
big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got
to focus on what is in front of me immediately today.
How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on,
not all those narratives.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for
Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look
like like for you because one of the things that
you've done very well so far, and I think it's
even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people
are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money.
He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say,
on your own. So what did the next couple of
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months look like for you? And and address this amount
of money you think it's going to take to win
this race.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at
a law from here in town, and you know, I
got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well,
most people run for public office don't have jobs on
the side. I'm like, well, I mean well.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I will say this for you. You showed up
on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I was like, shouldn't there be a line of people
behind you? You are by yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Diego and I had a little back and forth a
few months ago.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like,
what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I
think I think that's really says a lot about you
that you can't you go play on your own, you
show up.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you,
I think, and I go places on my own, talk
to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm
going to do the next three months, I'm going to
get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people,
not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk
to them about our message. I'm going to hear their
where they're struggling in their in their life and how
I can address those concerns. And I look forward to
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doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not
going to run it in a partisan Why it's time
we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of
big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see,
he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just
you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's
just as a family business. What do you say to
those people.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I would say we're building momentum here because people believe
in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The
majority of the money that has come in in our
fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans.
That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our
current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders,
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and I hope to be one of these, one of
these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they
don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message
and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I
decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give
me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I
need I need more rich friends real quick. I want
to get to know you a little bit because I
think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here,
he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit
about your military service, because I think that says a
lot about somebody about that you could go any path
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you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing
to wear the uniform for your country.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well,
did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your
dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents
put on me was to just give back and to
try and serve. And you can do that in a
ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You
can be you know, you can be a journalist, like
I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist.
That might be a dirty word these days, but there's
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just a ton of different ways to do that. And
so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've
been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a
lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm
very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give
back and just do my part to defend our country.
The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing
about the military, is that people come from all different
walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all
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over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have
different politics, but at the end of the day, in
the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the
Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader
to take all of these different people and orient them
toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who
we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a
mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that
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type of leadership in our politics.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And thing I like about your military service is there's
more than just one file photo of you. This was
one studio portrait.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that diego?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one
we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's
interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but
I want I want you to talk about your mom
for a minute, because I was talking to my mom
the other day about you know, you're coming on the
show and she listens as to program, and when she
was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so
we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and
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then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't
talking about any of that. She just said his mom
was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want
to give you a moment to talk about that, because
it probably gets old just talking about your dad and
your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big
part of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
She was just an amazing woman in so many ways,
and I was just very lucky to have her as
a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to
get me a study and do I'm looking At the time,
I was not always a fan of it, but looking back,
I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've
been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my
mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm
very because that's not always a case with people and
their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean,
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she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney,
very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through
law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she
always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah,
she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing
beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California.
She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls
on the stage, but they asked you kind of like
geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out
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of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady.
We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed
away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer.
But I was just so lucky to have her for
all those years in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for
the election. I just wanted to take a few moments
to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing,
and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're
sort of the only only chance we've got to find
out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know,
I want to I want to thank you for running.
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I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in
this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
we'll look forward to having you back a we get
closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners,
and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh,
an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides
in politics, the corruption that we've seen in the state House,
the waste will spending. It can exist in both parties.
Just happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but
we got to just as common sense taxpayers and just
you know, normal people. We got to call this stuff out.
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You're doing a good job at that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Kennel case Show ninety three WIBC. So Ethan's house got
shot up and I need more information. We'll get to
that in just a second. It's Kennel and Casey Show.
I'm Rob Casey's out today. Ethan Hatcher from Satday Night
on the Circle in for Casey. Before we do that, though,
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so we interviewed Bo Bye. We'll be able to go
back and listen to it on the podcast if you
missed any of it. And I will say this, I
think we're going to get the race we want out
of this because I think you're going to be utterly
disappointed no matter who wins. Let's make it entertaining. And
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I think the Buys are going to run the sort
of operation where they are going to pull the mask
back one ad at a time on who Diego Morales is,
how he's run that office and the Republicans, the Republican
Party that has been from most part totally complicit in
the behavior. Are you that confident that Diego Morales is
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going to secure the nomination from the delegates at convention
because a successful bow Bye campaign essentially rests on Diego
Morales being the nominee. Yeah, okay, so I'm torn on
this because we all have, all members of decent society
have a vested interest in getting rid of Diego Morales's
secretary of State, and if David Shelton does that at
the convention, then great, we'll move on. However, from the
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perspective of this radio program and this radio station, the
best thing for us is going to be the bow
by Diego Morales. Sure. I mean you're going to see
a gajillion dollar spent. It's going to get super nasty.
And Diego may not want to tell nobody who paid
for India, but the buys, I think are going to
figure it out. I think they'll tell everybody who paid
for it. There's a fantastic contrast that can be drawn
between the candidates, and that's what you want for a
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really energetic election is when there is a you know,
broad disagreement between the two central candidates, I mean even
down to their heights. You know, you got bow Bye,
a towering giant of a man, and tippy Toe's Diego,
you know, who can barely get his head over the podium.
That's the one thing we were laughing during the break
that blew me aways. I didn't realize how tall he was.
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Now I'm five eight, so I'm not exactly the best
guy to compare this to. But you're you're six four
six y four, keV. You saw him. He's every bit
as tall as Ethano. Yeah, it's very similar. And so
you're right, Diego's got to be five two. And if
those two get on a debate stage, which it does
raise the question. Last time, Diego totally chickened out and
refused to debate his opponents. Now he thought he had
(21:51):
it in the bag, and he did, and he did
he didn't have to. He's not going to have it
in the bag this time. But the contrast of those
two next to each other or at any and are
on stage, it's gonna blow people away.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I could totally see Diego chicken it out of another debate,
and that would be a much bigger deal than him
doing that against Destiny Wells and Jeff Moore. So anyway, look,
and I know some people are thinking, well, it's gonna
be this hardcore interview. Look, we got a thirteen months
before the election's gonna be back a whole bunch of times.
Does he take policy positions? Is he as he comes
out with opinions on things, we'll have him on and
(22:23):
we'll do the we'll do the in depth. I think
he is. Look, I think you would be naive to
think if politics isn't in that family's blood and it's
sort of this you know, it's remember in Forrest Gump
where Lieutenant they give the history of Lieutenant Dan and
somebody had died in his family in every single war,
and they go all the way back to the founding
of the country. And look, I think it would be
(22:45):
naive to think, like that's sort of not what it's
like being a buye and that that was sort of
a fate of complay. This was always gonna happen. And
I think he's gonna really have to hone his message
to connect with people, because while the buy name and
that infrastructure, as it clearly is, will help him raise
the money he's gonna need, it's also going to hurt
(23:06):
him with some people because they'll do the hey guy
born with the silver spoon in his mouth. Yeah, But
I mean he is a character straight out of central casting,
as you often see, very good looking, he looks the part.
He's tall, he's charismatic, he's confident. But if he is
a savvy politician, he will read the tea leaves and
no one understand that winning a state wide office in
(23:27):
Indiana is an uphill battle when you are a Democrat. Sure,
And I think two things that I took away from
this one. They are going to destroy, if indeeded is
Diego Morales with these with these ads, and he will
have professional people around him from his father's orbit, from
the sort of you know, the Democrats who are left
(23:48):
who know what they're doing orbit. They will be very
surgical in how they how they take apart Diego Morales.
They will make this a referendum on Diego Morales. They
will put the mirror up and tell this state this
is who this guy is, and they get the polling shones.
They're gonna get the opportunity to do it because most
people don't know who he is, and so I think
(24:08):
that's definitely definitely gonna happen. I also think he understands
that there is a major image problem with that party
that he's a part of, and he's going to have
to figure out a way to convince people, hey, I'm
not one of these no kings people that's going to
be showing up screaming on the State House lawn and
(24:30):
that balancing act and the choice. Look, voters are gonna
have to make the choice. Will are you willing to
deal with what you know and what's going to come
out about Diego morales? Are you willing to deal with
four more years of that? Are you willing to take
a flyer and hope this guy can be moderate and
just do the job, which is to be an administrator
of the will the General Assembly. When it comes to
(24:50):
presenting himself, I think he needs to take a book
out of John Fetterman, the Betterman's Book, and you know,
just present himself as normal, somebody who can cross the
aisle with a bipartisan appeal. And if he fails to
capitalize on the many many many many many many MENI
meaning many many misdeeds of Tippy toe Ba Diego, then
the Democrats deserve to lose. All right, Uh man, this
(25:14):
is a horrible story. It's fascinating to me, but it's horrible.
You posted this on Twitter. You're talking about my house. Yeah,
so you own. We joke, but you owned several houses.
You are a land, You're you're living, renting houses to people.
Most of them are east side of the east side
of Indianapolis and the very side of India, I think,
is what the technical term is. And somebody shot up
(25:37):
one of your houses the other night. I mean when
you say they shot up like okay, Rob, See, this
isn't even the first time this has happened to me
in Indianapolis. Remember a couple of years ago, at the
beginning of twenty twenty two, when my house got shot up.
I was caught in the crossfire. I've been your house.
I've seen the bullet. I was right a street shooting.
I had a couple of windows get shot out. Bullet
went right through my house or right through my bedroom
(25:58):
into my living room. And I thought that was bad
when I got caught in the crossfire of a little
more than a dozen bullets in the front of my house. Rob,
they turned this place where my tenants live into Swiss cheese.
It's like nothing I've ever seen. They Bonnie and Clydeed
the place, you know, the famous Bondie Clyde car.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
They did that to a house.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They shot out, about a dozen windows, shattered concrete in
the foundation.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I mean, it is a wreck, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now, this shot through a closet door, the front door,
a bedroom door, many.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Holes in the walls.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's no, this is not But let's I want to
point this out, not that it makes it any better,
but this is not the house you live in. This
is one of the houses you rent. Yes, this is
a rental property with people in it. There were people,
they were in it at the time. This happened at
four o'clock in the morning. You know, these people are
just laying their heads down and sleeping. So what do
you what happens when that? Like, I mean, do they
call you? Obviously, I see they call the police for
like what what happens when a house gets shot up?
(26:54):
They called the police first, which was the correct course
of action, because there's not much I can do four
o'clock in the morning when somebody shoots up one of
my one of my properties.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So they called police.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Police showed up to take a report, they took pictures,
and then they left. I'm not sure if there will
be any more to the i MPD investigation than that,
But now we begin the cleanup process. So, and I
thought you, I mean, you posted, by the way, what's
your Twitter handles to you? You can find my Twitter
at Ethan Hatcher. My name e t h n h
(27:25):
A t c h E R at Ethan Hatcher. Okay,
And so you posted these photos that people want to
see them, and it's really staggering, like to see these
these pictures. But I thought your kind of description of
this was great, which is it's obviously dangerous and horrible,
but for you, as the landlord, it's incredibly disheartening because
you put a lot of effort into your properties to
(27:45):
make them livable and passable and something the community can
you know, be proud of or you're you're proud to
live in and then people just do all this destruction
to your property and you've got to pay out of
your own pocket to fix the damage that they've done.
Trying to do the right thing and hold your head
up high in the city of Indianapolis is like trying
to swim with training weights on. You were constantly being
(28:08):
dragged down by the crap that democrats have let fester
in our city. And I directly connect activities like this
to the actions of Joe hogseet and Ryan Nears over
the past, you know, well hog set since twenty sixteen
meters since twenty nineteen. So do you have any faith
(28:29):
that one the person or people are gonna be caught
and two that anything will happen to them. Well, I mean,
if they're caught, you know, we can talk, especially if
they're a repeat offender.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know, maybe this is the tipping point.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But you know, that's a big if they're even gonna
be caught, because I'm not sure they didn't catch They
were on foot, so they didn't catch any license plates
from nearby ring doorbell cameras or security cameras. There's just
not a lot to go on besides the shellcasings that
were retrieved. And I don't even know if IMPD retrieved
(29:01):
them all, because I found quite a few on the
sidewalk just myself looking around. And it's unbelievable that everybody
should go look at the photos. By the way, they
will just make you sick. This is sort of like
standard operating procedure now where some guy's house got shut up. Well,
you know, it's Indianapolis, Like, it's just sort of I mean,
(29:22):
I put thousands of dollars into this place, Rob, it
is so disheartening. I mean, look, I put it was
at least thirteen hundred dollars for a new epoxy floor
coating in the front porch, which was concrete. It was
five thousand dollars to repair some roof leaks. It was
several thousand dollars to rip out and replace all of
the electrical wiring in the property. We put a new
(29:42):
tub there and new tubs around, a new kitchen sink,
a new kitchen counter, new tile countertops, new kitchen flooring.
We repaired and redid some drywall work. We refinished all
of the hardwood flooring, put in a couple of new doors,
refinished all the antique woodwork, staying that poly ara thane.
That there's a lot, a lot, a lot of a
(30:04):
lot of work that went into making this single family
home an attractive place to live.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And that's all just you know, been literally.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Shot to pieces by these criminal freaks that Ryan Meres
and Joe Hogsnott have sympathy for. Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable.
I hate that this happened to you. Hopefully your insurance
will pay for some of this.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I'm not sure if they will.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Rob because whether or not my insurance is going to
cover the damages is entirely hinged on whether this can
be construed as vandalism, because if it can't, and I
got my insurance agent looking into that right now, then
I'm on the hook for all of these repairs. How
could somebody putting bullets through your house not be construed
as vandalism? Well, I'm not an insurance suggest to Rob,
(30:48):
so I'm not sure how they interpret the language.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
But yeah, you know, if they would have.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Spray painted the front of the house, yes, that that
would have been covered peppering it with bullets maybe maybe?
All right, we'll take a break, Hammer joins us. Next
Kennelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. Well, it's the room
full of people.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Now, look at this sausage fest in here biting people
onto my show.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now, you you've already been here today. I know, I
thought we were done with you roped back in? What
can I say? Kendalyn Herrick Show, that's John Herrick. He's
back again. I guess Jason Hammer is here.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The reason I've invited the news director into the studio
is that something we haven't done in a while. But
I think it's overdue. It's time to play a heated
round of Hit the Posts, and John Herrick's going.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
To be the closer.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, I'm hurtful at this. Now explain the game, Rob Well.
The way it should be done is I should have
a little clock that tells me how to explain the game,
how to talk. So you play the song before the
guy or girl starts singing. There's the music, you're supposed
to be talking up that time frame, and then you're
supposed to try to stop right before they stop singing. Now,
in a decent society, there's a little clock on every
(32:02):
program where you can look at the clock.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I didn't for excuses, I'm not very good at this.
You made this incredibly complicated. We play a song, you
talk it up being bada boo.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
By the way, I can't tell you the amount of
people that texted me on how rude you were yes
to me me yesterday on the off the Rail segment.
So I just wanted you to know the public was
very dismayed at your rudeness during my Yeah. I'm sure
the public hates when you get yelled at.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Fine, I'm not buying it, Skippy I'm not Ethan. I
don't have to be nice to you. I hope you
get hit by a truck. Yeah, all right, now, this
is the way the game's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Ethan.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You're in the mix too, just because you're the new
guy here. You don't get the skate. Are you going
to listen to music?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, classical music.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Were you allowed to listen to music? It was a
weird childhood, Jason. I know there's a lot going on there.
So these are all songs that you know. I'm not
trying to throw you any curveballs. This isn't some b
side to a simply red song or something. All things
you've heard of, Ethan. You're gonna channel your inner music.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
DJ.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We're gonna start the song. You talk it up. You
stop talking right as the lyrics start. It's called hitting
the Post. Okay, okay. The song I've chosen for you
is Dance the Night Away from Van Halen.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's a popular song. I think you'll know it once
it starts. Let's play the game.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You're listening to WIBC bringing you all the classic hits
from the nineteen eighties. Coming up is a little bit
of Van Halen, sit back, relax and enjoy the music.
You looked a little on the clock there.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know this song. I don't know how we
need the clock.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You stink at this game? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh, it's okay for you to yell at somebody, but
somebody makes fun of your petty little last that. It's
a problem, all right, So Rob, I kept it as
easy as I can for you. It's a Bruce Springsteen.
Sure you don't need your stupid little pie clock to
get a Springsteen song.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I'm sure you've probably listened to this a million times
alone at night with your pants off. See, this is cheating.
I've never heard that song. And you give your paper
Ethan just sort of this. It's been around all crack Kevin,
fire it up. Oh, here we go ninety three w IVC.
It's the Kennel and Casey show. John Herrick's here again.
(34:10):
You don't know why. Hope he doesn't blow the whole segment.
Either way, it's gonna be great. Here's the boss.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
You hit the post.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Okay, nobody would ever hire you, but that's good. Off
the time, I just have liner cards. You know you're
supposed to be quick off the top of your head.
This does test skill, It really does, because.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I mean there's supposed to be there's gona be like
liner cards, like during this break, you read this, you
say this.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's how you're supposed to know.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They tell you talk up a Springsteen song, and you
should be able to talk it up. You do three
hours of talking off the top of your head every day.
You couldn't talk up fifteen seconds of a song that
you like.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
A lot of pressure. You're a moron. All right, here
we go.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
This is due to you this week, like you came
back from vacation and you've just been ask to me,
like what did I do to you? I'm a man
of the people. I'll give the people what they want. Sure,
all right, Harrik, No, hold on, no.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
No, it's mine. Yes, Now.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I kept it in the eighties classic rock genre. Here
my wheelhouse is like hip hop from the nineties. But
I do like some Motley Crue, so I'm gonna go
a little different direction here for you. On some Motley Crue, Kevin,
you are rowing through nine songs in a row here
on the hammer in Nigel Show, coming up here just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Rob Kendall's gonna tell you how he gets his fake
hair to look so damn good.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Right now, the crew boom boom right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
There, that's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He's good at this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I'm excited for this one because Johnson never played the
game with us before.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's right now. In the past, we've brought Kurt.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Darling when he used to work here into the newsroom
because he got real cocky. Right, Oh, I used to
work at a radio station blah blah blah, and he
came in here and he's stunk. It may have been
the worst performance we've ever had. So with that being said,
the pressure's on John. You've got to redeem the newsroom.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
The song that shows for John we kept it in
the eighties, the rock Family Rebel Yell from Billy Idle.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay, Kevin hit it.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to a song that
was voted the seventy ninth best rock song of all
time by aoh one in a public vote.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It is Billy Idol.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
He's had so many hits, but here's another one on
ninety three WIBC. It is Rebel Yell, Billy Idol. Billy,
It's up to you now take it away, sir, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
We'll take it. We'll take it pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That was way better than Darling did.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You didn't chew out John he was short too, it.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Was he wasn't short by thirty seconds. Ehan. It's hard, No,
it's really hard. It's not an easy thing to do
as much.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Either when you have the clock tells you exactly when
to stop talking m hm, or you could just feel
it out and flow, or the Q carts that they
had a little clock radio.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You don't even really work on this show. Just sit
there and be quiet.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
That's because I have my own damn show.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Ah ooh weekend guy.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Okay, so highly rated show on Saturday night at nine.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Your damn right. It is my friend you actually both
of you are back this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe in miracles?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Now, How did Nigel have any vacation days left to
take a week long vacation? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I think he's still got a few more days around
the holidays. What he might be trying to blow out? Uh,
he front loads his vacation time. As to where I
backload mine, right, I don't take hardly anytime off until
like now, and then usually Rob and I get yelled
at my management because we take the whole month of
December off.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah. Yeah, but I don't understand how he's he appears
to also be backloading despite front loading. Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe he's got a different contract. But
good for him.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Take the days if you have him. I'm gonna be
leaving again here in about a week.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Where are you going, Florida. I'm gonna be Florida, man,
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
New dude in the news possibilities traveling hammer right there
for Lauderdale. You getting like a condo or we have
like the rewards points at the hotels.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We stay in your hotel? Guy, aren't you kids with you?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, your kids are grown now. You don't have to
do that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They're gonna have like a big Kidden play style house
party and the coupon Lady and I will be on
the beach.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
What is coming up this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's beer sample Friday, so we're gonna just have some beverages,
have some fun, kick start the weekend, and have a
good time.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
All right, stick around a lot more on the way
we'll figure out what it is during the break
So can he stop the Republican cabal in Indiana? Let's
find out. It's kind of a case. He show him.
Rob Casey's out today, Ethan's in for case he Bobai
joins us now in studio. Democrat candidate for Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bo Hello, Hey, how are you doing? Rom all right?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So, first question, why would you want to do this
to yourself? You've got a pretty good life, You're working
for a law firm, you know, great family. Why are
you running for secretary of state?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah? I was raised in a family of public servants,
and I was always taught that public servants should serve
people and not themselves. And I'm looking at our state.
I'm seeing too often that the folks in the state House,
and particularly the Secretary of State, are serving themselves. He's
using his position as an elected official to benefit himself,
to enrich himself, to help his friends and family. I mean,
the guy spent ninety thousand dollars of the taxpayer money
(00:46):
on a luxury suv.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a lot of money. That's well, that's not just
a lot of money. That's more than the averageosier makes
an entire year. He's flown around the world, doesn't tell
us who's paying for those trips, the purpose of the travel.
He's increased his own salary, his office, head count, et cetera.
The list on. I want to live a life of service.
I look at I was in the Marine Corps. When
you see a problem in the Marine Corps, you run towarty,
you try and fix it. The secretary of State's office
(01:09):
is a big, big problem in our politics. My plan
is simple. Day one, We're going to clean up the
wasteful spending and the corruption. I'm gonna conduct an independent
audit of the offer. Yeah, can you like auction the
car off the do you do that? We'll wait on
that one. Gotta we gotta see what the market looks like.
And I think that thing's got some nice leather interior too.
Still that new car smell.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's get I want to get to what you're
gonna do as Secretary of State. But the first thing
that fascinates me is, obviously, and I'm sure you get
this all the time, you come from a very famous
political family. Your dad was the governor, senator, your grandpa
is senator. Like, is that a do you do? You
step out of that shadow. Do you say, Look, here's
who I am. I'm a part of this lineage of politics.
(01:49):
How are you going to handle that as you run
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm very proud of my family's service to our
state and country. And you know, I'm not naive to
the circumstances of my birth. It's not something I could control.
It's just kind of who I am. But I got
to be my own person. I am my own person,
and I look forward to the next you know, thirteen
months or so to the November of twenty twenty six
showing people who I am. I got to be my
own person. You might remember in twenty sixteen, my dad
(02:15):
briefly lost his mind and tried to get I tried
to get back involved in politics.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's why that's why I ask you, because it's he says,
with sports, where it's like very hard to be you're
calling the arch manning by the way, So what if
you're not very good, you could very well be very good.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We hope you're very good. But you know, you see
that with sports right where it's like, you know, Michael
Jordan's son or now Lebron James son, it's very hard
to follow in the footsteps of a famous fathers or grandfathers,
And I just wonder you know how you'll you'll deal
with that because sometimes that's not easy for people.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's not easy. But you might remember Peyton Manning. Yeah,
my sports hero, his dad, his dad when nobody Yeah,
So it does happen both ways. And look, my mom
always like say to me growing up, never never try
to be anyone else, because you're never gonna be good
at it. People could smell a phony from mile away.
It's same in the marine corpse, same in business, same
in politics. You just got to be yourself. I'm just
(03:08):
gonna tell people the truth, particularly when it comes to
this office. Yeah, tell people what's going on. I mean
you've discussed this public polling on your show. I think
it was yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The public polling shows that nobody knows in our state
who Diego Morales is, and the people that do know
don't like him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that good for you? By the way Bo buys
our guests, he's Democrat candidate for Secretary of State. Is
that good for you? Because on the one hand, he's
way underwater and people know who he is, the other hand,
all the Shenanigans he's pulled. People don't really know about
it yet. Does that work in your favor?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I'm gonna bust my butt. I'm gonna get
to all the ninety two counties of our state, and
I'm gonna tell people about this. How can you blame
people for their voting patterns when they're not informed about
the candidates. I'm going to get around our entire state.
I'm gonna have the resources to do that with some media,
and I'm gonna do it with my legs getting around
all ninety two counties. I'm gonna tell people about him.
I'm gonna tell people about me. I am the right
(03:59):
person for this office. Not partisan, Rob, it's not. The
office has nothing to do with your political party. It
has to do with good government. I mean the guys
wasting our money. People work really hard for their money.
I'm gonna save people money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Bobi is our guest Democrat kadid for Secretary of State.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, So.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think a lot of people are gonna be very
interested on how you sort of overcome the Democrat challenge,
which is, hey, it's a sixty to forty state. Obviously
the Democrats. It's been a long time since I guess what,
Joe Donnelly and then Glinda Ritz So it's been a
decade plus. How do you get enough Republican leaning voters
(04:35):
to vote for you to make up that pretty big
gap in terms of voter voter tendencies.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
For lack of a good question, the best thing about
this office in this race and my message, it's not partisan. Republicans.
You don't like wastefle spending. You don't like when our
secretary of State goes to hydrobad India doesn't tell us
who's paying for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Man, we're count on you to find out who paid
for the thing. That's your job.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Day one, we're doing an independent audit. We're gonna bring
you've probably had mice in your house. Your listeners have
had mice in their house. The exterminator comes over. When
they see one mouse, it means there's like fifty or
one hundred. This is just what we know with this guy.
Are you the exterminator? Are you running to be the exterminator?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
State?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Your resistant analogy? But look where there's smoke, there's fire.
Day one, we're going to conduct an independent audit of
this office. Republicans and Democrats alike can get behind cutting
out wasteful spending and blatant corruption in politics. This guy,
Rob has given out no bid contracts to his campaign
donors from out of state software companies. I mean, look,
he's supposed to be in charge of registering the businesses
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in our state. Can you imagine. Can you imagine your
listeners probably are business owners. Can you imagine registering your
new business as an entrepreneur with our state and wanting
a good partner in a Secretary of State's office, and
this guy's giving out no bid contracts to his donors.
That is not a good partner. How can you trust
that person to help you found your business and be successful.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you have, like we said, an uphill climb. And
by the way, I think that's great that you're going
to do that, because I think we talked about this
on our show. Not only you run against Diego Morales,
there's a lot of people who have been totally complicit
in what he's doing. I think most people that say
does know exactly what he is. And the fact that
the governor won't do anything about it, the attorney general
won't do anything about it. It's really going to take
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somebody to get in that office because you will get
access to all the stuff. You're going to be able
to open those doors.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're right, and look, this is this goes to the
heart of a big problem in Indiana politics that I
think you and I agree on. Mitch Daniels agrees with
me on this. He's written extensively on this. Diego Morales
is the product of twenty five years of no competition
in politics. Right, this is what happens. It's just like business,
if you have if there are no competing businesses in
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an area, the one business in town can jack up
their prices and screw consumers. That's what's happening here. He
does not feel like he has to take good actions,
good steps for good government, because he feels like there
are no repercussions for his bad actions. He's about to
find out that's not the case. It's not partisan. We
need competitive politics because it produces better results for voters.
It's not about Democrats Republicans. It's about people in office
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who actually care about the taxpayer, who are competent at
their jobs, are not going to lie to you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I try to make this case. A lot on
this program, and I hear from people, many people they
will say, you know what, You're right, The Republicans are awful.
They're mismanaging our money, the crony capitalism. But boy, I
just there's a lot of extremists in the Democrat Party
and I just can't deal with that. How do you
overcome when there are some very loud voices in your
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party who really alienate people who otherwise might be open
to voting for you. How do you deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I hear you, I hear them, and can tell us. Look,
both political parties need to focus on the issues that
matter to most people. Most people people care about cost
of living. I mean, utility rates are through the roof
here in Indiana. You know that. I just passed the
AES building on the way in here. That's my utility company.
I pay those rates. Healthcare costs are rate too high.
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Are roads and bridge are crumbling. We've gotta make sure
to keep our streets safe. These are the issues that
people care about. The Democratic parties, some factions of it
have been focused on things for way too long that
are just not the main issue for most people. So
you ask me how I'm gonna you know, attract voters
of the other party focus on the things that matter
to people, not some of the extremeist politics that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So like with coaches in sports, like if their dad
was a coach, they call up their father, like, Hey,
what do you think about this game? Whatever? Do you
have those conversations with your dad or is it just like, Hey,
I'm gonna do my thing and I'll call him and
we'll talk about, you know, the Colts game this week,
Like what are those conversations?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, yeah, sometimes I'll ask him for advice. Sometimes he
gives unsolicit advice, like a lot of loving fathers out there,
and you know that can be good and bad, but
you know it's this is my own thing. I got
to make my own way. And you might in twenty
sixteen people say, oh, well, you know you're benefiting a
ton from your dad's your dad's legacy. And I get
that one hundred percent get that. I'm not naive. But
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he did lose his last campaign in twenty sixteen by
a healthy margin to an.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Idiot to Todd Young.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, yeah, well, actually I Todd Young, say what you
will about him. He's a marine. I'm a marine. He
actually he I had a problem with my g I
built benefits. I gave his office a call. They were
on it right away, So I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, now you get a lot of credit though you've
been here for ten minutes and you did not mention
you were a marine, which is way more than you
ever get out of Todd Young Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, look, I appreciate his service.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Our guest is bo Baye, Democrat candidate or Secretary of State.
Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll get
to some of the issues. How does he feel about
voter I D How does he feel about ballot initiatives?
We'll get to that in a lot more. Kennel A
Casey Show ninety three w IBC first get good after
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in for Casey bo Ba Democrat Kennedy for Secretary of State.
He is our guest, so let's talk about some of
the positions you have. You have said, I think it
is a very smart voter id off table. We're not
touching voter id long.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And we rob by the way. We in our state
must have secure elections. There is no room, no room
in our state for illegal voting. But at the same token,
I think it's a shame that Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom
of the country in voter participation.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Why is that is because.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The number one reason I've read studies about this, I
doubt Diego Moralysis studied this issue because, to be honest
with you, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Think he cares.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Voter apathy. People don't go to the polls because they
feel like their voice doesn't matter, like they're just casting
their ballot into the abyss. Your listeners know about this
partisan redistricting effort that's going on. Yeah, what do you
think that's going to do to voter apathy? If we
further gerrymander our congressional maps where where we have very
non competitive elections, people are not going to go to the
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polls because they're going to say, why am I voting?
This outcome is predetermined.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think the big thing for you, though, is
you're fine with voter id in the state of media.
You're not going to push to change that. No, Okay,
let's talk about the ballot referendums, because that'd be an
act of the legislature. But you, as the elections chief,
would have some sway over that in terms of public influence.
Where are you out on ballot referendums.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think it is time in Indiana, just like Florida, Missouri,
and Ohio, that we had a citizen led ballot referendum process.
I just mentioned Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country
and voter participation that is in part droup drawn pushed
by voter apathy. Another part is people think that folks
in the state US just don't represent their interests. They're
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just turned off from politics. Like my brother is one
of these people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Can you He's nowhere to be found exactly, very happy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's living a great life in Carmel and with his
new wife and new job. So he's doing fine. But look,
can you imagine the energy that we can build in
our state, the voter turnout that could happen if we
let the people decide to have a voice in the
big issues of the day. That is going to drive turnout,
that's going to get people out to the polls. I
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have a lot of faith robbed like you do in
Hoosiers deciding these issues and not the folks, the one
hundred and fifty people who are off by special interests
in the state House. I have faith in the in
Hoosiers deciding this.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Do you feel pressure that?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Look?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious you're sort of
like the last hope for the Democrat Party in Indiana.
I mean, if you can't pull it off with your name,
with your your resources, I mean, you're going to be
a much better candidate than what they put forward in
the past. Is there pressure like, Hey, if this guy
can't do it, we're folding the tent and we're going home.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know. I don't think about things that way.
All I can do is focus. You know, you're are
you football fan?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean I've got an EU diploma on my while
I paid for it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, Kazignetty likes to say, we have you know, we
focus on the next hour, best meeting, best walk through,
best practice, and then we go through quarter by quarter
in the game. You can't think about all these you know,
big kind of looming pressures on you. You just got
to focus on what is in front of me immediately today.
How can I win this moment? That's what I'm focused on,
not all those narratives.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A couple of minutes left with Bobi's Democrat candidate for
Secretary of State. So what's the next several months look
like like for you because one of the things that
you've done very well so far, and I think it's
even surprise surprising people. I think a lot of people
are like, well, it's Dad's go give him all this money.
He'll be fine. You're raising a lot of money, you know, say,
on your own. So what did the next couple of
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months look like for you? And and address this amount
of money you think it's going to take to win
this race.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so the next couple of months, I'm working at
a law from here in town, and you know, I
got bills to pay. Someone was saying the other day, well,
most people run for public office don't have jobs on
the side. I'm like, well, I mean well.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I will say this for you. You showed up
on your own. There's no entourage here. Yeah, well I
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I was like, shouldn't there be a line of people
behind you? You are by yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and does Diego Morales come on the show?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you could probably show up with a bodyguard if Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Diego and I had a little back and forth a
few months ago.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
He paid for India and everybody was eating their rubber chicken, Like,
what is this guy talking about? No, no, no, I
think I think that's really says a lot about you
that you can't you go play on your own, you
show up.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, I'm comfortable with our message. I'm comfortable talking to you,
I think, and I go places on my own, talk
to Hoosiers around the state. You asked me what I'm
going to do the next three months, I'm going to
get around to Chris cross our state to talk with people,
not just Democrats, Republicans, Independence alike. I'm going to talk
to them about our message. I'm going to hear their
where they're struggling in their in their life and how
I can address those concerns. And I look forward to
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doing that. This is not a partisan office. I'm not
going to run it in a partisan Why it's time
we clean up the watfle spending, the corruption and the grift.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Let's talk about the fundraising. You're getting a lot of
big checks. What do you say to people who go, well, see,
he's just reaching into his dad's connections and he's just
you know, you know, just in the lineage, and he's
just as a family business. What do you say to
those people.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I would say we're building momentum here because people believe
in our message. You talked about the fundraising numbers. The
majority of the money that has come in in our
fundraising effort thus far has been from Republicans rob Republicans.
That goes to show how dissatisfied people are with our
current state of politics. It's not partisan. People want leaders,
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and I hope to be one of these, one of
these leaders who bring people together, work with folks they
don't always agree with, unify people. That is our message
and that's why we've had early success in the fundraising department.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, you got some famous names on there, and I
decided I need more rich friends. My grandpa used give
me like twenty bucks each month, so I decided I
need I need more rich friends real quick. I want
to get to know you a little bit because I
think it's easy to say, oh, he's just coming back here,
he's doing this to use hoosiers. Talk a little bit
about your military service, because I think that says a
lot about somebody about that you could go any path
(15:34):
you wanted to go, and you decided to be willing
to wear the uniform for your country.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, thanks and you know. I people always ask me, well,
did your parents put pressure in your growing up? Your
dad was a senator, whatever. The only pressure my parents
put on me was to just give back and to
try and serve. And you can do that in a
ton of different ways. Besides being in the military. You
can be you know, you can be a journalist, like
I mean, I don't know if you'd like a journalist.
That might be a dirty word these days, but there's
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just a ton of different ways to do that. And
so I decided to join the Marine Corps because I've
been very lucky in my life, Rob I've had a
lot of opportunities open to me that you know, I'm
very grateful for, and I feel an obligation to give
back and just do my part to defend our country.
The best thing about the Marine Corps, the best thing
about the military, is that people come from all different
walks of life, from big cities, little towns, from all
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over and they vote for incredibly different people. We have
different politics, but at the end of the day, in
the Marine Corps, I was an infantry officer in the
Marine Corps, right, it is my job as the leader
to take all of these different people and orient them
toward a common goal. We didn't ask each other who
we voted for because it didn't matter. We had a
mission to accomplish. We need more of that spirit, that
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type of leadership in our politics.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And thing I like about your military service is there's
more than just one file photo of you. This was
one studio portrait.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that diego?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, there's not more, just means that's the one
we keep saying. Hey, before I let you go. It's
interesting because everybody talks about your dad, your grandpa, but
I want I want you to talk about your mom
for a minute, because I was talking to my mom
the other day about you know, you're coming on the
show and she listens as to program, and when she
was talking about your family and were lifelong Hoosier so
we obviously remember when your your dad was governor and
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then you know your grandpa was a senator. She wasn't
talking about any of that. She just said his mom
was such an outstanding, beautiful person. And I just want
to give you a moment to talk about that, because
it probably gets old just talking about your dad and
your grandpa. And I know your mom was a big
part of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
She was just an amazing woman in so many ways,
and I was just very lucky to have her as
a mom. She busted my butt growing up trying to
get me a study and do I'm looking At the time,
I was not always a fan of it, but looking back,
I mean, everything I've done in my life or I've
been able to accomplish, has been ninety five percent my
mom's energy to me and my brother's lives. And I'm
very because that's not always a case with people and
their kids. And I'm very lucky to have her. I mean,
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she was just a wonderful lady. She was an attorney,
very accomplished in her own right. She put herself through
law school. Rob she was from southern California, so she
always liked to have as a Hoosier by choice. Yeah,
she put herself through law school waiting tables and doing
beauty pageants. And she always said she was Miss Southern California.
She always said, you know, there was probably prettier girls
on the stage, but they asked you kind of like
geopolitical questions and things like that. She knocked those out
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of the park. So she was just a wonderful lady.
We lost her gosh, four years ago now she passed
away from gioblastomo, which is an aggressive form of brain cancer.
But I was just so lucky to have her for
all those years in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
All Right, we'll have you back plenty of times for
the election. I just wanted to take a few moments
to you know, people are talking about you, what you're doing,
and look, I'm cheering for you because I think you're
sort of the only only chance we've got to find
out how corrupt these Republicans actually are. And you know,
I want to I want to thank you for running.
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I think you give the Democrats an actual chance in
this race, and we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
we'll look forward to having you back a we get
closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I look forward to it. Thank you to your listeners,
and Rob, thank you to you. You're a rare thing today, Oh,
an independent voice who's willing to call out both sides
in politics, the corruption that we've seen in the state House,
the waste will spending. It can exist in both parties.
Just happens to be Diego Morales as a Republican, but
we got to just as common sense taxpayers and just
you know, normal people. We got to call this stuff out.
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You're doing a good job at that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, thanks, Bo, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Kennel case Show ninety three WIBC. So Ethan's house got
shot up and I need more information. We'll get to
that in just a second. It's Kennel and Casey Show.
I'm Rob Casey's out today. Ethan Hatcher from Satday Night
on the Circle in for Casey. Before we do that, though,
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so we interviewed Bo Bye. We'll be able to go
back and listen to it on the podcast if you
missed any of it. And I will say this, I
think we're going to get the race we want out
of this because I think you're going to be utterly
disappointed no matter who wins. Let's make it entertaining. And
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I think the Buys are going to run the sort
of operation where they are going to pull the mask
back one ad at a time on who Diego Morales is,
how he's run that office and the Republicans, the Republican
Party that has been from most part totally complicit in
the behavior. Are you that confident that Diego Morales is
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going to secure the nomination from the delegates at convention
because a successful bow Bye campaign essentially rests on Diego
Morales being the nominee. Yeah, okay, so I'm torn on
this because we all have, all members of decent society
have a vested interest in getting rid of Diego Morales's
secretary of State, and if David Shelton does that at
the convention, then great, we'll move on. However, from the
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perspective of this radio program and this radio station, the
best thing for us is going to be the bow
by Diego Morales. Sure. I mean you're going to see
a gajillion dollar spent. It's going to get super nasty.
And Diego may not want to tell nobody who paid
for India, but the buys, I think are going to
figure it out. I think they'll tell everybody who paid
for it. There's a fantastic contrast that can be drawn
between the candidates, and that's what you want for a
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really energetic election is when there is a you know,
broad disagreement between the two central candidates, I mean even
down to their heights. You know, you got bow Bye,
a towering giant of a man, and tippy Toe's Diego,
you know, who can barely get his head over the podium.
That's the one thing we were laughing during the break
that blew me aways. I didn't realize how tall he was.
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Now I'm five eight, so I'm not exactly the best
guy to compare this to. But you're you're six four
six y four, keV. You saw him. He's every bit
as tall as Ethano. Yeah, it's very similar. And so
you're right, Diego's got to be five two. And if
those two get on a debate stage, which it does
raise the question. Last time, Diego totally chickened out and
refused to debate his opponents. Now he thought he had
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it in the bag, and he did, and he did
he didn't have to. He's not going to have it
in the bag this time. But the contrast of those
two next to each other or at any and are
on stage, it's gonna blow people away.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I could totally see Diego chicken it out of another debate,
and that would be a much bigger deal than him
doing that against Destiny Wells and Jeff Moore. So anyway, look,
and I know some people are thinking, well, it's gonna
be this hardcore interview. Look, we got a thirteen months
before the election's gonna be back a whole bunch of times.
Does he take policy positions? Is he as he comes
out with opinions on things, we'll have him on and
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we'll do the we'll do the in depth. I think
he is. Look, I think you would be naive to
think if politics isn't in that family's blood and it's
sort of this you know, it's remember in Forrest Gump
where Lieutenant they give the history of Lieutenant Dan and
somebody had died in his family in every single war,
and they go all the way back to the founding
of the country. And look, I think it would be
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naive to think, like that's sort of not what it's
like being a buye and that that was sort of
a fate of complay. This was always gonna happen. And
I think he's gonna really have to hone his message
to connect with people, because while the buy name and
that infrastructure, as it clearly is, will help him raise
the money he's gonna need, it's also going to hurt
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him with some people because they'll do the hey guy
born with the silver spoon in his mouth. Yeah, But
I mean he is a character straight out of central casting,
as you often see, very good looking, he looks the part.
He's tall, he's charismatic, he's confident. But if he is
a savvy politician, he will read the tea leaves and
no one understand that winning a state wide office in
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Indiana is an uphill battle when you are a Democrat. Sure,
And I think two things that I took away from
this one. They are going to destroy, if indeeded is
Diego Morales with these with these ads, and he will
have professional people around him from his father's orbit, from
the sort of you know, the Democrats who are left
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who know what they're doing orbit. They will be very
surgical in how they how they take apart Diego Morales.
They will make this a referendum on Diego Morales. They
will put the mirror up and tell this state this
is who this guy is, and they get the polling shones.
They're gonna get the opportunity to do it because most
people don't know who he is, and so I think
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that's definitely definitely gonna happen. I also think he understands
that there is a major image problem with that party
that he's a part of, and he's going to have
to figure out a way to convince people, hey, I'm
not one of these no kings people that's going to
be showing up screaming on the State House lawn and
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that balancing act and the choice. Look, voters are gonna
have to make the choice. Will are you willing to
deal with what you know and what's going to come
out about Diego morales? Are you willing to deal with
four more years of that? Are you willing to take
a flyer and hope this guy can be moderate and
just do the job, which is to be an administrator
of the will the General Assembly. When it comes to
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presenting himself, I think he needs to take a book
out of John Fetterman, the Betterman's Book, and you know,
just present himself as normal, somebody who can cross the
aisle with a bipartisan appeal. And if he fails to
capitalize on the many many many many many many MENI
meaning many many misdeeds of Tippy toe Ba Diego, then
the Democrats deserve to lose. All right, Uh man, this
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is a horrible story. It's fascinating to me, but it's horrible.
You posted this on Twitter. You're talking about my house. Yeah,
so you own. We joke, but you owned several houses.
You are a land, You're you're living, renting houses to people.
Most of them are east side of the east side
of Indianapolis and the very side of India, I think,
is what the technical term is. And somebody shot up
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one of your houses the other night. I mean when
you say they shot up like okay, Rob, See, this
isn't even the first time this has happened to me
in Indianapolis. Remember a couple of years ago, at the
beginning of twenty twenty two, when my house got shot up.
I was caught in the crossfire. I've been your house.
I've seen the bullet. I was right a street shooting.
I had a couple of windows get shot out. Bullet
went right through my house or right through my bedroom
(25:58):
into my living room. And I thought that was bad
when I got caught in the crossfire of a little
more than a dozen bullets in the front of my house. Rob,
they turned this place where my tenants live into Swiss cheese.
It's like nothing I've ever seen. They Bonnie and Clydeed
the place, you know, the famous Bondie Clyde car.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
They did that to a house.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
They shot out, about a dozen windows, shattered concrete in
the foundation.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I mean, it is a wreck, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now, this shot through a closet door, the front door,
a bedroom door, many.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Holes in the walls.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's no, this is not But let's I want to
point this out, not that it makes it any better,
but this is not the house you live in. This
is one of the houses you rent. Yes, this is
a rental property with people in it. There were people,
they were in it at the time. This happened at
four o'clock in the morning. You know, these people are
just laying their heads down and sleeping. So what do
you what happens when that? Like, I mean, do they
call you? Obviously, I see they call the police for
like what what happens when a house gets shot up?
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They called the police first, which was the correct course
of action, because there's not much I can do four
o'clock in the morning when somebody shoots up one of
my one of my properties.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So they called police.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Police showed up to take a report, they took pictures,
and then they left. I'm not sure if there will
be any more to the i MPD investigation than that,
But now we begin the cleanup process. So, and I
thought you, I mean, you posted, by the way, what's
your Twitter handles to you? You can find my Twitter
at Ethan Hatcher. My name e t h n h
(27:25):
A t c h E R at Ethan Hatcher. Okay,
And so you posted these photos that people want to
see them, and it's really staggering, like to see these
these pictures. But I thought your kind of description of
this was great, which is it's obviously dangerous and horrible,
but for you, as the landlord, it's incredibly disheartening because
you put a lot of effort into your properties to
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make them livable and passable and something the community can
you know, be proud of or you're you're proud to
live in and then people just do all this destruction
to your property and you've got to pay out of
your own pocket to fix the damage that they've done.
Trying to do the right thing and hold your head
up high in the city of Indianapolis is like trying
to swim with training weights on. You were constantly being
(28:08):
dragged down by the crap that democrats have let fester
in our city. And I directly connect activities like this
to the actions of Joe hogseet and Ryan Nears over
the past, you know, well hog set since twenty sixteen
meters since twenty nineteen. So do you have any faith
(28:29):
that one the person or people are gonna be caught
and two that anything will happen to them. Well, I mean,
if they're caught, you know, we can talk, especially if
they're a repeat offender.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know, maybe this is the tipping point.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But you know, that's a big if they're even gonna
be caught, because I'm not sure they didn't catch They
were on foot, so they didn't catch any license plates
from nearby ring doorbell cameras or security cameras. There's just
not a lot to go on besides the shellcasings that
were retrieved. And I don't even know if IMPD retrieved
(29:01):
them all, because I found quite a few on the
sidewalk just myself looking around. And it's unbelievable that everybody
should go look at the photos. By the way, they
will just make you sick. This is sort of like
standard operating procedure now where some guy's house got shut up. Well,
you know, it's Indianapolis, Like, it's just sort of I mean,
(29:22):
I put thousands of dollars into this place, Rob, it
is so disheartening. I mean, look, I put it was
at least thirteen hundred dollars for a new epoxy floor
coating in the front porch, which was concrete. It was
five thousand dollars to repair some roof leaks. It was
several thousand dollars to rip out and replace all of
the electrical wiring in the property. We put a new
(29:42):
tub there and new tubs around, a new kitchen sink,
a new kitchen counter, new tile countertops, new kitchen flooring.
We repaired and redid some drywall work. We refinished all
of the hardwood flooring, put in a couple of new doors,
refinished all the antique woodwork, staying that poly ara thane.
That there's a lot, a lot, a lot of a
(30:04):
lot of work that went into making this single family
home an attractive place to live.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And that's all just you know, been literally.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Shot to pieces by these criminal freaks that Ryan Meres
and Joe Hogsnott have sympathy for. Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable.
I hate that this happened to you. Hopefully your insurance
will pay for some of this.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I'm not sure if they will.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Rob because whether or not my insurance is going to
cover the damages is entirely hinged on whether this can
be construed as vandalism, because if it can't, and I
got my insurance agent looking into that right now, then
I'm on the hook for all of these repairs. How
could somebody putting bullets through your house not be construed
as vandalism? Well, I'm not an insurance suggest to Rob,
(30:48):
so I'm not sure how they interpret the language.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
But yeah, you know, if they would have.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Spray painted the front of the house, yes, that that
would have been covered peppering it with bullets maybe maybe?
All right, we'll take a break, Hammer joins us. Next
Kennelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. Well, it's the room
full of people.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Now, look at this sausage fest in here biting people
onto my show.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Now, you you've already been here today. I know, I
thought we were done with you roped back in? What
can I say? Kendalyn Herrick Show, that's John Herrick. He's
back again. I guess Jason Hammer is here.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The reason I've invited the news director into the studio
is that something we haven't done in a while. But
I think it's overdue. It's time to play a heated
round of Hit the Posts, and John Herrick's going.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
To be the closer.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, I'm hurtful at this. Now explain the game, Rob Well.
The way it should be done is I should have
a little clock that tells me how to explain the game,
how to talk. So you play the song before the
guy or girl starts singing. There's the music, you're supposed
to be talking up that time frame, and then you're
supposed to try to stop right before they stop singing. Now,
in a decent society, there's a little clock on every
(32:02):
program where you can look at the clock.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I didn't for excuses, I'm not very good at this.
You made this incredibly complicated. We play a song, you
talk it up being bada boo.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
By the way, I can't tell you the amount of
people that texted me on how rude you were yes
to me me yesterday on the off the Rail segment.
So I just wanted you to know the public was
very dismayed at your rudeness during my Yeah. I'm sure
the public hates when you get yelled at.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Fine, I'm not buying it, Skippy I'm not Ethan. I
don't have to be nice to you. I hope you
get hit by a truck. Yeah, all right, now, this
is the way the game's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Ethan.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You're in the mix too, just because you're the new
guy here. You don't get the skate. Are you going
to listen to music?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, classical music.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Were you allowed to listen to music? It was a
weird childhood, Jason. I know there's a lot going on there.
So these are all songs that you know. I'm not
trying to throw you any curveballs. This isn't some b
side to a simply red song or something. All things
you've heard of, Ethan. You're gonna channel your inner music.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
DJ.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We're gonna start the song. You talk it up. You
stop talking right as the lyrics start. It's called hitting
the Post. Okay, okay. The song I've chosen for you
is Dance the Night Away from Van Halen.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's a popular song. I think you'll know it once
it starts. Let's play the game.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You're listening to WIBC bringing you all the classic hits
from the nineteen eighties. Coming up is a little bit
of Van Halen, sit back, relax and enjoy the music.
You looked a little on the clock there.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know this song. I don't know how we
need the clock.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You stink at this game? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh, it's okay for you to yell at somebody, but
somebody makes fun of your petty little last that. It's
a problem, all right, So Rob, I kept it as
easy as I can for you. It's a Bruce Springsteen.
Sure you don't need your stupid little pie clock to
get a Springsteen song.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I'm sure you've probably listened to this a million times
alone at night with your pants off. See, this is cheating.
I've never heard that song. And you give your paper
Ethan just sort of this. It's been around all crack Kevin,
fire it up. Oh, here we go ninety three w IVC.
It's the Kennel and Casey show. John Herrick's here again.
(34:10):
You don't know why. Hope he doesn't blow the whole segment.
Either way, it's gonna be great. Here's the boss.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
You hit the post.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Okay, nobody would ever hire you, but that's good. Off
the time, I just have liner cards. You know you're
supposed to be quick off the top of your head.
This does test skill, It really does, because.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I mean there's supposed to be there's gona be like
liner cards, like during this break, you read this, you
say this.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
That's how you're supposed to know.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They tell you talk up a Springsteen song, and you
should be able to talk it up. You do three
hours of talking off the top of your head every day.
You couldn't talk up fifteen seconds of a song that
you like.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
A lot of pressure. You're a moron. All right, here
we go.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
This is due to you this week, like you came
back from vacation and you've just been ask to me,
like what did I do to you? I'm a man
of the people. I'll give the people what they want. Sure,
all right, Harrik, No, hold on, no.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
No, it's mine. Yes, Now.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I kept it in the eighties classic rock genre. Here
my wheelhouse is like hip hop from the nineties. But
I do like some Motley Crue, so I'm gonna go
a little different direction here for you. On some Motley Crue, Kevin,
you are rowing through nine songs in a row here
on the hammer in Nigel Show, coming up here just
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Rob Kendall's gonna tell you how he gets his fake
hair to look so damn good.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Right now, the crew boom boom right.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
There, that's how it's done.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He's good at this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I'm excited for this one because Johnson never played the
game with us before.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's right now. In the past, we've brought Kurt.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Darling when he used to work here into the newsroom
because he got real cocky. Right, Oh, I used to
work at a radio station blah blah blah, and he
came in here and he's stunk. It may have been
the worst performance we've ever had. So with that being said,
the pressure's on John. You've got to redeem the newsroom.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
The song that shows for John we kept it in
the eighties, the rock Family Rebel Yell from Billy Idle.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay, Kevin hit it.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to a song that
was voted the seventy ninth best rock song of all
time by aoh one in a public vote.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It is Billy Idol.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
He's had so many hits, but here's another one on
ninety three WIBC. It is Rebel Yell, Billy Idol. Billy,
It's up to you now take it away, sir, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
We'll take it. We'll take it pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
That was way better than Darling did.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You didn't chew out John he was short too, it.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Was he wasn't short by thirty seconds. Ehan. It's hard, No,
it's really hard. It's not an easy thing to do
as much.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Either when you have the clock tells you exactly when
to stop talking m hm, or you could just feel
it out and flow, or the Q carts that they
had a little clock radio.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You don't even really work on this show. Just sit
there and be quiet.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
That's because I have my own damn show.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Ah ooh weekend guy.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Okay, so highly rated show on Saturday night at nine.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Your damn right. It is my friend you actually both
of you are back this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe in miracles?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Now, How did Nigel have any vacation days left to
take a week long vacation? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I think he's still got a few more days around
the holidays. What he might be trying to blow out? Uh,
he front loads his vacation time. As to where I
backload mine, right, I don't take hardly anytime off until
like now, and then usually Rob and I get yelled
at my management because we take the whole month of
December off.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah. Yeah, but I don't understand how he's he appears
to also be backloading despite front loading. Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe he's got a different contract. But
good for him.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Take the days if you have him. I'm gonna be
leaving again here in about a week.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Where are you going, Florida. I'm gonna be Florida, man,
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
New dude in the news possibilities traveling hammer right there
for Lauderdale. You getting like a condo or we have
like the rewards points at the hotels.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We stay in your hotel? Guy, aren't you kids with you?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, your kids are grown now. You don't have to
do that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They're gonna have like a big Kidden play style house
party and the coupon Lady and I will be on
the beach.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
What is coming up this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's beer sample Friday, so we're gonna just have some beverages,
have some fun, kick start the weekend, and have a
good time.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
All right, stick around a lot more on the way
we'll figure out what it is during the break
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