October 27, 2025 • 35 mins
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's talk about it redistricting. I mean, let's talk
about it more and again.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This conversation has been going on since the end of July,
and it seems like it is coming to a climax.
You're listening to the Kendall and Casey Show. My name
is Casey. Jim is in for Rob who right now
at this point, I'm sure would love to be in
the studio to fight with our next guest, and that
is Representative Andrew Ireland. Andrew, thank you for coming in
(00:26):
this morning. He's in the studio. If you'd like to watch,
you can do that. Type in Kendal and Casey into
the YouTube search bar. And before we begin, I want
to congratulate you for being honored on having the highest
Freedom Index rating of any Indiana lawmaker this year.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What exactly does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So, you know's a rating based on how you vote.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, it's a culative.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Score over time, based on different bills that come up
and how you approach it. Really focused on constitutional values,
you know, basic freedom, your individual liberties, whether or not
you're voting consistent with the US Constitution. And you know
that's something I really pride myself in. I think it's
something that's really important and one of the things I
ran on from the beginning. So I'm happy to see
that the score reflects exactly what I said i'd do.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, well, congratulations. Somebody tagged me on Twitter and they said,
please ask him real questions. Don't just use these softball
type questions that get lobbed all the time to anyone
with a political opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Are you ready for the tough question?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Hit me with the hardest questions you got.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, First of all, before we get into the Voting
Rights Act and how this affects Indiana and across the nation.
I wanted to ask you because Governor Brawn made an
announcement November third is when the special session will happen.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Is that what you've been told?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's right. I saw the tweet this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The Governor, I think is officially called a special session
to convene on November the third. Whether or not we
actually come in on the third or maybe a couple
of days later, what we'll see? You know, the logistics?
I think sometimes are you know decided a little bit later?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But did you find out when everybody else find out?
Or was there a bat signal.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You know, I saw the reporting over the weekend that
it was likely, and I'd heard the rumor, but you know,
the first official confirmation I had is at the same
time that everybody else did.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
So.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He also mentioned that he wants to focus on some
tax policy as well, which leads me to the question, Okay,
if you're in a special session, you can introduce bills,
can't you.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You can, so there's no limitation on what bills can
be filed. Doesn't necessarily mean that those bills will be heard.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Traditionally for special sessions you try to keep them to
a couple of topics, so you're in really quickly, you
get it done, and then you get out. We also
have a short session coming up, so unless it's something
that really needs to be done quickly before the end
of the physical you know, before the end of the
calendar year, for example, which I know there's some language
in the One Big Beautiful Bill where you know, frankly, again,
you might be able to do things retroactively if you
(02:45):
do it in the spring, but it'd be a lot
easier to get them done now. Makes a lot of
sense then to do that during special session. The rest
of it can probably wait until January.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Some people are saying, hey, my property tax bill can't wait.
Is that something that you would consider reintroducing during a
special set?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, hey, I don't think there's anybody in the entire
state House who's been more vocal on this issue than
I have.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right you were at the rally.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was at the rally.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I voted against SB one as well because I had
some concerns there. You know, at the end of the day,
whether we do it now, we do it next session,
I think it is something we have to continue to
address because there's a lot more work to do. I
just paid my property tax philby to day for the fall.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That one's dung. It's stung a lot. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Again, that is not a system that we can continue
to have long term. I think we have to get
out of the property tax game entirely. So whether we're
working that on, you know, during a special session, or
we're doing with it you know this spring again, that
is something I'm very committed to working on.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Do you have any inclination to introduce any other bills
during the special session or are you going solely to
focus on redistricting?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So I think that's the focus right now.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Again, I've got five bills that I'm working on for
this short session. You know, again, none of them that
have to be done by the end of this calendar year.
So just so that we could, you know, kind of
save everybody's time and you know, every day that we're
in thereocus on this and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think it's probably a better way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So a lot of people are saying, you've seen the polls.
You've seen the polls that have come out in Indiana
saying that the majority of Hoosiers are opposing redistricting. And
last week we were told that the votes weren't there,
and now today we're being told Governor Brown is still
calling a special session.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Anyway, does that mean the votes are there?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So I couldn't tell you. I don't have a whip count.
I think that for the show, Adam Brin reported initially
that the you know, the votes in the House, and
again I'm a whipcount for that one, either were there
at the Senate was really the big question mark. I
seen some reporting over the weekend that maybe they're getting
closer to the magic you know, twenty five senators that
they need to get it done. So I guess is
we're probably pretty close to that right now. I couldn't
(04:43):
tell you for sure, but I can't imagine the governor
would call a special session unless he was pretty confident
that we're going to get this done.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, So let's talk about the why, because there are
some people that are saying, you know what, it's not
Indiana's responsibility to help well people in Washington and helped
Donald Trump before the midterms and to make things right
based on what's going on in Texas and California and Massachusetts.
So why are we doing this? Why are we considering
(05:10):
this at the expense of taxpayers?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, I'll tell you I think that if we don't
do it, it comes at a real expense to taxpayers, and
one that's denying the overwhelming majority of Hoosier's their voice
at a national level. I mean, right now, Indiana, if
we don't do this and you send Andre Carson and
Frank Mrvan back to Congress next year, that means that
when states like Virginia go forward with redistricting, which they're
talking about, they're probably going to get done over the
next two weeks where they're going to deny multiple Republicans.
(05:35):
Sounds like upwards of three Republicans a seat in Congress,
California taking five away. And you've got states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland,
others that have been denying Republicans for years, you know,
really an equal seat at the table. If Indiana doesn't
do this, we are just marginalizing our own voters. So
I think it's really important on that reason alone, is
again trying to level the national playing field. If you
(05:55):
don't fight fire with fire, you're just going to lose.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now, you mentioned Massachusetts, and we've talked in the past
last week, especially how many people were trying to go
to redistrictr dot org and draw a map in Massachusetts
that had Republican representation and they could not do it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, and you know, and every election cycle is different.
But I will say I actually saw a data analyst
the other day who does a lot with maps, specifically,
who was able to draw and it's a funny looking
district to true of a lot of the states that
Jerry Mander, where you know, there was one Republican seat
and then there was one swing seat. I think it
was like a plus two's like a two you know,
point advantage for the Democrats. But in you know, a
(06:34):
good candidate or a good cycle for Republicans, it would
have been two Republican representatives.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
For the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So even in Massachusetts you can find two Republicans. Massachusetts
doesn't choose to do that, but you could do it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you work hard enough. We have Representative Andrew Ireland
joining us. I wanted to ask you about the maps specifically.
Have you seen a map?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, I've seen a million doing maps online. I
don't think we've received like an official map, you know,
for anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yet.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think that's part of what the special session is
there to do those to go and you know, meet
is a committee, I think the Elections Committee, whatever committee
this goes to to draw it appropriate map, and you know,
I think there's a million ways you can do that,
just based on what I've seen online.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But I don't have an official map. No. Now everything
in this context here we're talking about the federal districts
and that's the conversation and that's why we're having this
special session. Has there been any discussion about redrawing the
state districts as long as you're talking about redoing maps, So.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I don't think so. I mean, again, this is really
a federal issue. I think we have pretty fair maps
on a state level right now. We don't have any
need to you know, push back because again this is
really a federal issue. We're talking about the national elections,
and this is a reaction to what's happening in other states. Again,
there's not really any need on the state level to
address that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Has there been any conversation about having a non partisan,
third party commission come in to draw the maps.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So I've seen people talk about that.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I will say, when you look at states like California
that have had it until they're to take that away
now so they can carrymander further. It's interesting is even
those nonpartisan commissions one are always filled with a bunch
of very partisan hacks. I mean some just outright Democrats
sometimes that are you know, staffing these places in Democrat states,
and magically those maps then happen to lean, you know,
statistically far more Democrat than what the average voting populace is.
(08:20):
I mean, look at California today, where the president got
i think over forty percent of the vote.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Maybe it could be wrong on that.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean it's almost as you know, Republican, as Indiana
is Democrat, but the share there is far worse than
what we have here in our state today, and that's
with their nonpartisan redistricting commission. So you can only imagine, then, again,
what that would look like in Indiana. I don't think
it actually changes anything, and it takes away that, you know,
kind of, I think the authority of the legislature, which
(08:45):
is given to them by the US Constitution to draw
the maps.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like it's important.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's interesting that you mentioned forty percent because Indiana technically
is forty percent Democrat, but now with this redistricting, you
want to give them zero representation.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, and again, you know, if Massachusetts, Virginia, California want
to find two Republican seats that they want to give back,
I think we can have a different conversation on this.
But in the meantime, I think that's the only way
you can do it is you fight fire with fire.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, I mean, do we want to really be implementing
things and saying, well, just because California did this or
Massachusetts did this, don't normally look to California as conservatives
for ideas to implement here in the state of Indiana. Well,
you're right. I listen.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I would love for California to step back from the
brink and to stop what they're doing, right, but again,
you cannot unilaterally disarm. Otherwise you're just going to lose.
We're just going to be a minority party in Congress
forever because we're going to say, Okay, Virginia, Maryland, Illinois,
New York, you all can do this, and we'll just
sit back and lose. Or again, you can start fighting
fire with fire and maybe they'll have second thoughts the
next time they try to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What do you think the Voting Rights Act and what's
going on in Louisiana will play into this specifically here
in Marion County.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So I don't think it actually changes the legal analysis
here in Marion County. So the Voting Rights Act, I mean,
the main provision that you know is kind of being
litigated out right now involves majority minority districts, a majority
black district, majority of Hispanic district. And the VRA effectively
mandates that you have these districts in these states, particularly
the Southern states, where you know you kind of have
(10:15):
the history of segregation in the first place. No, obviously
that's being litigated out. It's going to be before the
you know, it's before the Supreme Court. They just had
arguments I think about a week ago or a couple
of weeks ago now, so we'll see when we get
a decision on that. That really doesn't change anything here
in Marion County because even you know, like the the
most ethnically diverse district in the state is still not
a majority minority district as far as majority black, majority Hispanic.
(10:39):
So however you draw districts in Indiana, that really isn't
a VR issue. Now again in Louisiana and Alabama and
these other states that is. So that'll be an interesting
thing to watch, is where the court lands on that.
And also how quickly you get a decision on that.
I mean, you could not get a decision frankly until
like well into next summer. So by then it's unlikely
that you're going to see any map redrawing in state.
(11:00):
It's like Louisiana or Florida where it might matter, But
here in Indiana, I mean, this is a perfectly legal process.
There's nothing illegal about it. I think it's ultimately a
political question of whether or not, you know, Republicans in
Indiana are ready to take that leap.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Are you concerned at all that we go through this
entire process and then you don't end up with a
nine to zero.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, I mean, you have to run good candidates and
you have to win at the end of the days.
So I mean one of the things that when you
go to nine and zero, for example, if you do
a nine and zero map, is that means that you're
going to have more competitive seats. And personally, I actually
think competition is good. So I don't like when you
have a district that's plus thirty three, you know, one
way or another, that's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That means the primary is the general.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And frankly, I think we've seen that, you know, with
enough money, a lot of these candidates, even if they're
bad candidates, like Andre Carson, they're never going to be
challenged on their own side. So that guy is basically
been a king in his own seat for a long
time here. So you know, I don't have worry in
there because I'm confident that we're going to find quality
candidates that are going to run, that they're going to
go and put up a good fight and that we're
going to win them all.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But isn't that more of a problem of the Mary
County GOP.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Though it's certainly part of it. I listen, I don't
think I've been quite a bit of my frustrations with
Mary County GOP that we need to do more. I mean,
this is a county that is home to nearly a
million people, and it seems like for too often now
we've kind of let it go and we just said, oh, well,
you know, that's where the Democrats are, so we're not
going to worry about the prosecutor, We're not going to
worry about the mayor. And now we see the consequences
(12:29):
of it. So yeah, I mean that is certainly a
piece of it. Is we need the Married County GOP
to step up.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Have you heard from any of your colleagues. Are people
hearing from their constituents either for or against this?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I certainly am.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I received a certainly one hundreds of phone calls over
the last couple of months, many many emails, a lot
of them from the outside. Frankly on both sides. You
got a lot of these, you know, you know, heavily
funded ads for example, I think it's the League of
Conservation Voters has been running almost one hundred thousand dollars
in ads, which I don't know what that has to
do with conservation, shouldn't, but for some reason they're running
(13:01):
it about, you know, a partisan jerrymandering.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's there their big concern right now.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And frankly, listen, I read every email, We listen to
every voicemail. If you're outside of the district, I appreciate
your opinion, it's still a welcome thing, but doesn't really
sway me one way or another.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So yeah, I mean, if it's not one of somebody
in your voting district, they're not calling their right representation.
But when it comes to people who are in your area,
how much are you paying attention to those calls, either
for or against? Like, are you keeping tabs or a
tally of you know, hash marks one for one of.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, one against.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
So, I mean, I'll say, in my district it's actually
been very supportive. I don't have an exact tally for you.
I think part of it is that, you know, up
until a couple of years ago, the people on the
South Side were in part of Andre Carson's district and
they know how terrible of a congressman he has been
and how ineffective he has been, so frankly, you know,
by whatever means necessary, they are more than happy to
give that guy the boot. And you know, at the
(14:00):
end of the day, I've been pretty vocal about this
from the beginning. You know, nobody had to wring my
arm to do it. I'm very supportive of this because
I think it's really important to start leveling the national
playing field. And it's nice to have, you know, somebody
at the top of your party, the President of the
United States right now, who's ready to play by the Democrats'
rules to fight back in the way that they have.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Been for years.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us. Do you have time
to stick around for just a few more minutes? Okay,
We've got to take a break, and when we come back,
a few more questions and also a little fun.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Okay, sounds good?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right. It is the Kendall and Casey Show. It's
ninety three WIBC. It is the Kendelling Casey Show on
ninety three w IBC. My name is Casey Daniels, Rob
Kendall with the day off.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Jim is in and also joining us in the studio,
we have Indiana Representative Andrew Ireland, and I want to
talk about the federal Republicans because you know what, I'm
just going to let you read what my normal co
host Rob Kendall has sent you the message that he
asked you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I know Rob's out on the golf course today,
but it looks like he's still got the time between
holes too.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Since the messages here.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So Rob asked us, So when adding two more Jefferson
Shrieves to Congress doesn't make anyone's life any better? Who
will you pick as the next boogeyman?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
You know, I get the sentiment there. I've got all
sorts of frustrations with what's going on in Congress generally,
particularly with congressional Republicans, where it seems like every cycle
we get Republicans that go and say, we're going to
fight for you, and we're going to cut taxes and
the fiscal piece is the most important. We've got this
national debt that you know is hanging over our heads,
and then every year it's like we're back at the
(15:42):
same place, if not worse, where we spend more money,
we tax people more and things don't get better. I
got to tell you, I don't know if the other
side offers you more on that. Frankly, you've got two
parties out there. Both of them want to tax the
Jesus out of you, I think is Rob says, I
totally agree with that. But on the other side, in
addition to all doing all that, all those same things,
they also want to go and have abortion on demand.
(16:03):
They want to go and have gender reassignment surgeries for children,
these kind of things that are just absolutely radical, crazy
things where if I've got to choose between the squishiest Republican,
which if I had to choose it, and this is
my only choice, or Andre Carson on the other side,
a guy who couldn't even vote in favor of the
resolution honoring Charlie Kirk, that choice is still pretty easy
(16:24):
for me. I don't like it, but you know, again,
between the two, that's a pretty easy choice.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So you're talking mainly social issues, but we added a
trillion dollars to the national debt in two months, and
that's with Republicans in control of the White House, the Senate,
and the House. So I guess the question is you're
not letting representation for forty percent of the state of
Indiana take place, and you're basing it on social issues,
(16:52):
then yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I mean, look, look what's going on right now with
the shutdown. Right, so, you've got Republicans who in the
House have already done this. In the Senate, they keep
trying to do it. They've passed a continuing resolution where
they want to spend the amount of money that we
already are and you've got Democrats who say, no, no, no,
that's actually not enough. We want to spend more money,
and in fact, we want to spend that money specifically
on illegal aliens and expanding Obamacare. I mean, these kind
(17:13):
of things that it's really frustrating to see because I'd
really like to see some party step up and say, actually,
maybe we need to spend less money this year.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, maybe this dead is a problem.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Can we do this and stop mortgaging people's futures? Right,
that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Where's the special session where we stop spending all this money? Yes, absolutely,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
All right, it is a representative Andrew Ireland with us,
and I appreciate you coming in, by the way, thank
you very much. I don't know if these were hard
hitting questions that everybody wanted, but hopefully they were some answers.
And you spent yesterday in Costco with your baby, how'd
it go?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You know, it was a harrowing experience. We braved one
of the most dangerous places on Earth, a Costco on
a Sunday afternoon after church. But you know we survived.
I'm still here. We succeeded. And the ultimate mission there,
which is to get the Costco meat loaf. If you've
ever heard, if you've not had the Costco meat loaf
(18:11):
like the homemade you know, meat loaf of the mashed
potatoes on the side, strongly recommend you try it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Honestly, it's one of their best items. I'm a real say.
This is where I get upset at because I love
Costco and there all the time, but I've never had
the Costco meat loaf because i happened to live with
somebody that does not like meat loaf. That's true, you knew.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You can find the picture of Andrew's purchases at Andrew Ireland.
I n and the reason I wanted to bring up
Costco is again, I go back to you were just
at the grocery store and we're being told by the
President the grocery prices are coming down and gas prices
are coming down.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But here in Indiana, the gas prices are not coming down.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And I don't know what your grocery bill was, but
it was probably a little higher than it used to be.
So your voters want you to focus on that rather
than the redistricting, What say you?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So, I think we can walk and chew gum at
the same time, right, So, I think you can redistrict
but also really focus on the issues that matter to
the people. I mean, that's that's what I've been doing
from the moment that I got there, is really focused
on that. I had my own property tax plan. Obviously
we didn't move forward with it. I've got a bill
I'm working on right now, and whether it's for this
session or you know, the next one is associated with
the gas tax. The guy you talked about it a
(19:31):
little bit, maybe the last time that gym was here.
But you know, we have remittances, so this is money
that is transferred out of the country that worker is
often illegal aliens. I think we should be taxing that
instead of hardworking hoosiers and use that money to pay
down you know, the gas tax is a credit for
hardworking Hoosiers, so you're not paying these ridiculous gas taxes.
So hey, you got an ally there on all of that.
(19:53):
I think that there's something to be said that Republicans
need to do more at the state and federal level
to really go and do what they campaign on for
the beginning, which is trying to make life easier for people,
not to tax us, you know, out of existence.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, well, I mean that's what they're there for, right
It's the voters picking representation, not representation picking their voters. Andrew,
I appreciate you coming in and sticking around for a half.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Hour with us.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, no, it good to be back.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It is the Kendally Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC. Well,
we really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Representative Andrew Ireland coming in and joining the Kendal and
k C Show and talking redistricting. If you missed it,
you can go back and listen at noon because we
don't care what you do with Tony cass Is on. Yeah,
but he spent a lot of time with us talking.
But I did want to let you know. It is
now being reported that a spokesperson regard a spokesperson said
(20:50):
regarding the upcoming special session that the votes still aren't
there for redistricting.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Can you imagine they go through this whole process, months
and months of talking about redistricting, trying to whip up
the votes, Braun finally calls a special session. We have
a special session, debate ensues, bills are put in, and
they don't get the votes to redraw the maps. Can
you imagine if that happened?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, what are the maps?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's my question question, what are the official maps that
they're proposing? And that could be intentional as well, because
then that takes the heat off of Governor Mike Braun.
He can go to the Trump administration and said, hey,
we did what you asked us to do. It still
(21:35):
didn't happen, and now that will be potentially a consequence
of any no votes.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Sure, just blame the reps, the state senators that didn't
vote for it. You're right, that's actually a great point, Dany.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And was that the goal all along.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right to go through the motions on this to make
the Trump administration happy, and then whatever happens happens, and
if we don't get enough votes to pass it, then fine,
Braun can sit here and say not my fault. Look
over there, it's not my fault. But yeah, huge props
to Andrew Ireland for coming in here. He knows that
certainly this show has disagreed with his position, but he
(22:09):
comes in here anyway and takes the tough questions and
goes to Costco on a Sunday afternoon with the Toddler.
Andrew Ireland may have more guts than anybody, any other
elected official in the entire state for those two things
right there.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
President Trump, he announced the termination of all US trade
negotiations with Canada, and this decision was prompted by a
Canadian ad featuring Ronald Reagan criticizing tariffs. So the Ontario
Premier Doug Ford he launched a seventy five million dollar
ad campaign and the US. The ad used edited clips
(22:43):
of Reagan's nineteen eighty seven radio address, which promoted free
trade and opposed tariffs. Let's listen to a quick snippet
of the ad.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
When someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it
looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American
products and jobs. And sometimes for a shortened vivid works
but only for a short time, but over the long run,
such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer. High
(23:17):
tariffs inevitably lead the retaliation by foreign countries and the
triggering of fierce trade warks than the worst tackles, market
shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shutdown, and millions of
people lose their jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation claimed that the ad
misrepresented Reagan's viewsed and was used without permission. Of course,
Donald Trump called the ad fake and accused Canada of
fraudulent using Reagan's image.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Can Canada could not have screwed this entire process up
more if they have tried.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Canada can't use Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Only we can use Ronald Reagan. It's just like animal house.
Do you get do that to our pledges? Only we
can do that to our plague?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But then, and look, I get Canada. I understand. You know,
Trump called you the fifty first state. You guys are
very very patriotic in your own little ways up there
in the North, and that didn't feel so good. And
Trump changed all the tariffs, and that's certainly gonna hurt
your economy. But let's be honest, this is a really
really bad idea to go toe to toe with the
(24:20):
United States on something like this. So Rob Ford is
or Doug Ford rather is the premiere of Ontario. From
all indications are, he went and did this on his own.
This wasn't an AD that was approved by the federal
government and Carnee and sanctioned by them. Looks like he
kind of went and did this on his own and
really upset Trump. And because of this ad, Trump has
(24:42):
shut down all conversations with Canada on these trade negotiations.
This is a war that Canada cannot win. There is
no way that they are going to end up winning
this and and in fact, I think this AD just
made things just one hundred times worse for them for
the exact reason that you said, you know what, do
not dare come into our country and use Ronald Reagan's
(25:03):
own words against us? Not a chance. That's just not
going to go well. And that was not a smart
move by that premiere.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So Trump has suggested that the AD was intended to
influence the Supreme Court case on tariffs, and now the
Reagan Foundation reviewing their legal options regarding the ADS use.
So this is the second time now that Trump has
terminated trade talks with Canada.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The first one occurred in June.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But Doug Ford is the younger brother of Rob Ford.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yees. So if this name sounds familiar, and there was
a Canadian politician about ten twelve years ago named Rob
Ford and he was the mayor of Toronto, and Doug
Ford is his brother, they look very similar. They're speaking,
mannerisms in style are very similar, and both have a
track record of kind of going off the rails a
(25:54):
little bit. Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
In twenty thirteen, Rob Ford the brother he admitted to
smoking crack cocaine.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You asked me, You asked me a question back in May,
and you can repeat that question.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Is the question we asked him back in May?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Can you use you? You asked me a couple of questions,
and what.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Were those questions?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Do you smoke crack cocaine? Exactly?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yes, I have some look at crack cocaine, but no
do I am I an addict?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
When have I tried it? Probably in one of my
drunken stupors.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Probably talk remember about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Stop talking.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I answered your question. You asked the question properly, I'll
answer it. Yes, I've made misakes. I've made mistakes. All
I can do now is apologize and move on.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I don't know what guys, okay, I can I just all.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I can say is I've made mistakes. That's and you
guys can't referring to alcohol. There was a couple like
slate incidents. There's been times when I've been in a
drunken stupor. That's why I want to see the tape.
I want everyone in the city to.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
See this tape.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
May stop talking. He's making it worse.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
First of all, he begged the reporters to repeat the
question that they had originally asked him, and then he
admitted to smoking crack cocaine and then blamed it on
being in a drunken stupor. Like it's getting worse.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Stop talking. I'm so glad that his brother, current you know,
PM of Ontario came in and was in the news
because it reminded I'd forgot all about Rob Ford. There
was a period of time ten to twelve years ago
when when Rob Ford was the mayor of Toronto, and
he would have a press conference every couple of days
where he'd say something totally ridiculous like this, and by
the way him smoking crack. That video is not the
(27:37):
worst thing they ended up getting released. Yeah, and it's
out there, And the interview we just heard of Rob
Ford also not the most ridiculous thing he's ever done.
And in fact, we did have some audio about a
completely different subject that was even more ridiculous than him
smoking crack, but we really couldn't find a way to
clean it up enough to make it arable on an
FCC regulated radio station.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Not put that audio clip of him saying even something
more salacious, because I thought it was just too offensive
even for me to ask Kevin to pull the audio.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But this is the older brother of Doug Ford.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Of Doug Ford, the guy who's running the Ronald Reagan
ads in Canada.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, obviously one of the most entertaining political families to
ever come out of Canadian politics, uh huh. Not for
their bad not entertaining to them, but certainly entertaining to me.
And certainly both of those brothers have a track record
of kind of going off the reservation and doing things
on their own when the rest of the government's like, hey,
hold on there, settle down.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But it does make you wonder if bad choices run
in that family.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Clearly bad choices running that family. I can't believe we
couldn't play that other clip.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It It is too much.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's so ridiculous, too much, and so outrageous, naughty words
and so hilarious. And you're like, in fact, I showed
it to you last night and the first thing you
said to me is, oh, that's AI, right, Like, no,
this is this was like twenty twelve. This is way
before AI ever existed.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, it's real, highly inappropriate though.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So. Shoppers are increasingly deal focused due to tariffs and
economic uncertainty. We're two months away from Christmas. I know
many of you this week are focusing on Halloween. You've
got that in treating in costumes and Halloween becoming what
the second biggest holiday of the year people spend on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't like to call Halloween a holiday?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Really, why not?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
In my mind, it's not a holiday.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, So what's just it's what day? What criteria have
to be met for it to be called a holidays?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It's a lot of federal holiday. You don't get off work.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, it's with or without a government's show.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, So either the federal or state government declaring it
an official state or federal holiday. That's one criteria you
have for a holiday. Okay, what else?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I think that's probably.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You just feel like it's kind of a made up
I mean, it's totally made up holiday.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it's probably.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Has a lot to do with my upbringing and the
fact that Halloween was not celebrated in my house.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Uh, you went trigger treating though it.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Trigger treating, but there weren't decorations. And the costume, like
the one costume that I remember from trick or treating
was in any gen X is going to totally relate
to this.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It was a plastic mask. Oh yeah, the full face.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Mask, and then you had like a plastic I guess
you call it a drape of a costume.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It was. It was essentially a garbage bag with holes
cut it, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And it had the print out on top of it
of what you were supposed to be. And I was
Mickey Mouse and remember smelling the plastic and having a
hard time breathing and walking around with my pillow case.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, I don't think it was specifically your family though,
that that was that were the outliers in the late
seventies early eighties, Halloween was nowhere near what it was
to My family didn't put up Halloween decorations. I went
trigger treating every year, but that was about it was exactly.
But that was that was the vast majority of the population.
I mean, Halloween has exploded, especially the last twenty years,
(31:14):
into this massive holiday where people are putting twenty and
thirty foot you fake skeletons in there in their yard.
And I've seen now people putting up Halloween lights like
they put up Christmas lights, and costumes have been more
elaborate than they've ever been before. So I don't think
that you you had probably a very average Halloween experience
as a child. It's just that every child today is
(31:37):
different than the way things were back then.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the k Pop costume is very popular, and that's
from a Netflix show and apparently they only ordered so
many and they're running out, and that's what many of
the kids are wanting to be this So.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Now this is it's getting even closer to Christmas where
we're gonna have fist fights at Target when people are
fighting over costumes for Halloween her holidays. Normally it's over
the hot toy of the Christmas season. Now it's duking
it out over who's going to get the last Jack
Sparrow costume.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In regards to Christmas shopping, guess what they're already putting
it out. Retailers are reporting that consumers are trading down
this year rather than getting a premium item.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Trading down, trading down, that's what they're calling it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, you'll get a premium instead of getting a premium
label or brand. You're you're gonna get a lesser than
still in the same vein as the gift, but just
one that's maybe not the five star.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Can't we just come out and say we're spending less.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It is the Kendel a Casey Show. It's ninety three WYBC.
You want to give a shout out to somebody in
the YouTube chat.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
The Kendell of Casey Show listeners are the best listeners
in the world because I love it when they play along.
Last segment, we talked about former Canadian politician Rob Ford
and how he was, you know, said all these ridiculous things.
We had all these clips to choose from. There was
a specific the clip that was just too hot for
us to play. We couldn't play it, so I want
to shout out Michael in the YouTube chat, all he
said is I have more than enough to eat at home.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah he knew that is the he was playing on.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's the end of the most famous Rob Ford clip
in in existence. So if you're anywhere near a little squeamish,
do not google rob Ford. I have more than enough to.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Eat everybody, now, don't don't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You cannot blame me for it at all. And if
anybody you can blame Michael in the YouTube chat where
you can watch this show, if you just go to
YouTube and type in Kendall and Casey in the YouTube
search bar, You're right.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
We do have the best listeners. They are tuned in,
they know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I mean, that's clips like fifteen years old. And he
was able to quote the end of it right there.
Michael in the YouTube chat, propo to you for playing along.
You're the listener of the day. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Let's talk about this news about cruise ships. They are
seeing a record year.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh good for outbreaks? Oh not good.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Twenty twenty five has seen twenty gastro intestinal illness it
breaks on cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's a new record.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Seems like we go through this with cruise ships. Every
few years there's a new cycle and we get all
of these horror stories and videos of the video problems
with cruise ships, and they usually end up having to
do with some awful stomach bug and broken cruise ship plumbing.
Do the math on how those two things don't work
very well.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Again, not a good time.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So Triple A is projecting that twenty point seven million
Americans will cruise this year, and that's a rise from
twenty one point seven million and uh or actually they're
expecting there to rise to twenty one point seven million
next year, but it is an eight point four increase
from last year. So regardless of all of these stories
(34:46):
about these outbreaks and people being affected on these cruise
ships and then plumbing breaking on the cruise ships, people
are still excited to get on those boats.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I've only been on one cruise in my entire life,
and I still don't know if I like cruises or not.
I had a great time because you and I went
with some family and we had It was the people
we went with that made that vacation. I'm sure I
would have been just as happy. And you know you
Clearwater Beach Florida as I would have been on the
cruise shop.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You liked it because you were there with me, that
is Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I was there with you. We were there with some
family and also an important point, we had the unlimited
drink package.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It may have been a contributing festor.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
That doesn't hurt. It is The Kenderly Casey Show.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's ninety three w I Easy
Okay, let's talk about it redistricting. I mean, let's talk
about it more and again.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This conversation has been going on since the end of July,
and it seems like it is coming to a climax.
You're listening to the Kendall and Casey Show. My name
is Casey. Jim is in for Rob who right now
at this point, I'm sure would love to be in
the studio to fight with our next guest, and that
is Representative Andrew Ireland. Andrew, thank you for coming in
(00:26):
this morning. He's in the studio. If you'd like to watch,
you can do that. Type in Kendal and Casey into
the YouTube search bar. And before we begin, I want
to congratulate you for being honored on having the highest
Freedom Index rating of any Indiana lawmaker this year.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What exactly does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
So, you know's a rating based on how you vote.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, it's a culative.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Score over time, based on different bills that come up
and how you approach it. Really focused on constitutional values,
you know, basic freedom, your individual liberties, whether or not
you're voting consistent with the US Constitution. And you know
that's something I really pride myself in. I think it's
something that's really important and one of the things I
ran on from the beginning. So I'm happy to see
that the score reflects exactly what I said i'd do.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, well, congratulations. Somebody tagged me on Twitter and they said,
please ask him real questions. Don't just use these softball
type questions that get lobbed all the time to anyone
with a political opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Are you ready for the tough question?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Hit me with the hardest questions you got.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, First of all, before we get into the Voting
Rights Act and how this affects Indiana and across the nation.
I wanted to ask you because Governor Brawn made an
announcement November third is when the special session will happen.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Is that what you've been told?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's right. I saw the tweet this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The Governor, I think is officially called a special session
to convene on November the third. Whether or not we
actually come in on the third or maybe a couple
of days later, what we'll see? You know, the logistics?
I think sometimes are you know decided a little bit later?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But did you find out when everybody else find out?
Or was there a bat signal.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You know, I saw the reporting over the weekend that
it was likely, and I'd heard the rumor, but you know,
the first official confirmation I had is at the same
time that everybody else did.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
So.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He also mentioned that he wants to focus on some
tax policy as well, which leads me to the question, Okay,
if you're in a special session, you can introduce bills,
can't you.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You can, so there's no limitation on what bills can
be filed. Doesn't necessarily mean that those bills will be heard.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I know.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Traditionally for special sessions you try to keep them to
a couple of topics, so you're in really quickly, you
get it done, and then you get out. We also
have a short session coming up, so unless it's something
that really needs to be done quickly before the end
of the physical you know, before the end of the
calendar year, for example, which I know there's some language
in the One Big Beautiful Bill where you know, frankly, again,
you might be able to do things retroactively if you
(02:45):
do it in the spring, but it'd be a lot
easier to get them done now. Makes a lot of
sense then to do that during special session. The rest
of it can probably wait until January.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Some people are saying, hey, my property tax bill can't wait.
Is that something that you would consider reintroducing during a
special set?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, hey, I don't think there's anybody in the entire
state House who's been more vocal on this issue than
I have.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right you were at the rally.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was at the rally.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I voted against SB one as well because I had
some concerns there. You know, at the end of the day,
whether we do it now, we do it next session,
I think it is something we have to continue to
address because there's a lot more work to do. I
just paid my property tax philby to day for the fall.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That one's dung. It's stung a lot. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Again, that is not a system that we can continue
to have long term. I think we have to get
out of the property tax game entirely. So whether we're
working that on, you know, during a special session, or
we're doing with it you know this spring again, that
is something I'm very committed to working on.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Do you have any inclination to introduce any other bills
during the special session or are you going solely to
focus on redistricting?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So I think that's the focus right now.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Again, I've got five bills that I'm working on for
this short session. You know, again, none of them that
have to be done by the end of this calendar year.
So just so that we could, you know, kind of
save everybody's time and you know, every day that we're
in thereocus on this and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think it's probably a better way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So a lot of people are saying, you've seen the polls.
You've seen the polls that have come out in Indiana
saying that the majority of Hoosiers are opposing redistricting. And
last week we were told that the votes weren't there,
and now today we're being told Governor Brown is still
calling a special session.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Anyway, does that mean the votes are there?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So I couldn't tell you. I don't have a whip count.
I think that for the show, Adam Brin reported initially
that the you know, the votes in the House, and
again I'm a whipcount for that one, either were there
at the Senate was really the big question mark. I
seen some reporting over the weekend that maybe they're getting
closer to the magic you know, twenty five senators that
they need to get it done. So I guess is
we're probably pretty close to that right now. I couldn't
(04:43):
tell you for sure, but I can't imagine the governor
would call a special session unless he was pretty confident
that we're going to get this done.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, So let's talk about the why, because there are
some people that are saying, you know what, it's not
Indiana's responsibility to help well people in Washington and helped
Donald Trump before the midterms and to make things right
based on what's going on in Texas and California and Massachusetts.
So why are we doing this? Why are we considering
(05:10):
this at the expense of taxpayers?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, I'll tell you I think that if we don't
do it, it comes at a real expense to taxpayers, and
one that's denying the overwhelming majority of Hoosier's their voice
at a national level. I mean, right now, Indiana, if
we don't do this and you send Andre Carson and
Frank Mrvan back to Congress next year, that means that
when states like Virginia go forward with redistricting, which they're
talking about, they're probably going to get done over the
next two weeks where they're going to deny multiple Republicans.
(05:35):
Sounds like upwards of three Republicans a seat in Congress,
California taking five away. And you've got states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland,
others that have been denying Republicans for years, you know,
really an equal seat at the table. If Indiana doesn't
do this, we are just marginalizing our own voters. So
I think it's really important on that reason alone, is
again trying to level the national playing field. If you
(05:55):
don't fight fire with fire, you're just going to lose.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now, you mentioned Massachusetts, and we've talked in the past
last week, especially how many people were trying to go
to redistrictr dot org and draw a map in Massachusetts
that had Republican representation and they could not do it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, and you know, and every election cycle is different.
But I will say I actually saw a data analyst
the other day who does a lot with maps, specifically,
who was able to draw and it's a funny looking
district to true of a lot of the states that
Jerry Mander, where you know, there was one Republican seat
and then there was one swing seat. I think it
was like a plus two's like a two you know,
point advantage for the Democrats. But in you know, a
(06:34):
good candidate or a good cycle for Republicans, it would
have been two Republican representatives.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
For the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So even in Massachusetts you can find two Republicans. Massachusetts
doesn't choose to do that, but you could do it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you work hard enough. We have Representative Andrew Ireland
joining us. I wanted to ask you about the maps specifically.
Have you seen a map?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, I've seen a million doing maps online. I
don't think we've received like an official map, you know,
for anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yet.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think that's part of what the special session is
there to do those to go and you know, meet
is a committee, I think the Elections Committee, whatever committee
this goes to to draw it appropriate map, and you know,
I think there's a million ways you can do that,
just based on what I've seen online.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But I don't have an official map. No. Now everything
in this context here we're talking about the federal districts
and that's the conversation and that's why we're having this
special session. Has there been any discussion about redrawing the
state districts as long as you're talking about redoing maps, So.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I don't think so. I mean, again, this is really
a federal issue. I think we have pretty fair maps
on a state level right now. We don't have any
need to you know, push back because again this is
really a federal issue. We're talking about the national elections,
and this is a reaction to what's happening in other states. Again,
there's not really any need on the state level to
address that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Has there been any conversation about having a non partisan,
third party commission come in to draw the maps.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So I've seen people talk about that.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I will say, when you look at states like California
that have had it until they're to take that away
now so they can carrymander further. It's interesting is even
those nonpartisan commissions one are always filled with a bunch
of very partisan hacks. I mean some just outright Democrats
sometimes that are you know, staffing these places in Democrat states,
and magically those maps then happen to lean, you know,
statistically far more Democrat than what the average voting populace is.
(08:20):
I mean, look at California today, where the president got
i think over forty percent of the vote.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Maybe it could be wrong on that.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean it's almost as you know, Republican, as Indiana
is Democrat, but the share there is far worse than
what we have here in our state today, and that's
with their nonpartisan redistricting commission. So you can only imagine, then, again,
what that would look like in Indiana. I don't think
it actually changes anything, and it takes away that, you know,
kind of, I think the authority of the legislature, which
(08:45):
is given to them by the US Constitution to draw
the maps.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like it's important.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's interesting that you mentioned forty percent because Indiana technically
is forty percent Democrat, but now with this redistricting, you
want to give them zero representation.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, and again, you know, if Massachusetts, Virginia, California want
to find two Republican seats that they want to give back,
I think we can have a different conversation on this.
But in the meantime, I think that's the only way
you can do it is you fight fire with fire.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, I mean, do we want to really be implementing
things and saying, well, just because California did this or
Massachusetts did this, don't normally look to California as conservatives
for ideas to implement here in the state of Indiana. Well,
you're right. I listen.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I would love for California to step back from the
brink and to stop what they're doing, right, but again,
you cannot unilaterally disarm. Otherwise you're just going to lose.
We're just going to be a minority party in Congress
forever because we're going to say, Okay, Virginia, Maryland, Illinois,
New York, you all can do this, and we'll just
sit back and lose. Or again, you can start fighting
fire with fire and maybe they'll have second thoughts the
next time they try to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What do you think the Voting Rights Act and what's
going on in Louisiana will play into this specifically here
in Marion County.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
So I don't think it actually changes the legal analysis
here in Marion County. So the Voting Rights Act, I mean,
the main provision that you know is kind of being
litigated out right now involves majority minority districts, a majority
black district, majority of Hispanic district. And the VRA effectively
mandates that you have these districts in these states, particularly
the Southern states, where you know you kind of have
(10:15):
the history of segregation in the first place. No, obviously
that's being litigated out. It's going to be before the
you know, it's before the Supreme Court. They just had
arguments I think about a week ago or a couple
of weeks ago now, so we'll see when we get
a decision on that. That really doesn't change anything here
in Marion County because even you know, like the the
most ethnically diverse district in the state is still not
a majority minority district as far as majority black, majority Hispanic.
(10:39):
So however you draw districts in Indiana, that really isn't
a VR issue. Now again in Louisiana and Alabama and
these other states that is. So that'll be an interesting
thing to watch, is where the court lands on that.
And also how quickly you get a decision on that.
I mean, you could not get a decision frankly until
like well into next summer. So by then it's unlikely
that you're going to see any map redrawing in state.
(11:00):
It's like Louisiana or Florida where it might matter, But
here in Indiana, I mean, this is a perfectly legal process.
There's nothing illegal about it. I think it's ultimately a
political question of whether or not, you know, Republicans in
Indiana are ready to take that leap.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Are you concerned at all that we go through this
entire process and then you don't end up with a
nine to zero.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, I mean, you have to run good candidates and
you have to win at the end of the days.
So I mean one of the things that when you
go to nine and zero, for example, if you do
a nine and zero map, is that means that you're
going to have more competitive seats. And personally, I actually
think competition is good. So I don't like when you
have a district that's plus thirty three, you know, one
way or another, that's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That means the primary is the general.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And frankly, I think we've seen that, you know, with
enough money, a lot of these candidates, even if they're
bad candidates, like Andre Carson, they're never going to be
challenged on their own side. So that guy is basically
been a king in his own seat for a long
time here. So you know, I don't have worry in
there because I'm confident that we're going to find quality
candidates that are going to run, that they're going to
go and put up a good fight and that we're
going to win them all.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But isn't that more of a problem of the Mary
County GOP.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Though it's certainly part of it. I listen, I don't
think I've been quite a bit of my frustrations with
Mary County GOP that we need to do more. I mean,
this is a county that is home to nearly a
million people, and it seems like for too often now
we've kind of let it go and we just said, oh, well,
you know, that's where the Democrats are, so we're not
going to worry about the prosecutor, We're not going to
worry about the mayor. And now we see the consequences
(12:29):
of it. So yeah, I mean that is certainly a
piece of it. Is we need the Married County GOP
to step up.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Have you heard from any of your colleagues. Are people
hearing from their constituents either for or against this?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I certainly am.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I received a certainly one hundreds of phone calls over
the last couple of months, many many emails, a lot
of them from the outside. Frankly on both sides. You
got a lot of these, you know, you know, heavily
funded ads for example, I think it's the League of
Conservation Voters has been running almost one hundred thousand dollars
in ads, which I don't know what that has to
do with conservation, shouldn't, but for some reason they're running
(13:01):
it about, you know, a partisan jerrymandering.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's there their big concern right now.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And frankly, listen, I read every email, We listen to
every voicemail. If you're outside of the district, I appreciate
your opinion, it's still a welcome thing, but doesn't really
sway me one way or another.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So yeah, I mean, if it's not one of somebody
in your voting district, they're not calling their right representation.
But when it comes to people who are in your area,
how much are you paying attention to those calls, either
for or against? Like, are you keeping tabs or a
tally of you know, hash marks one for one of.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, one against.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
So, I mean, I'll say, in my district it's actually
been very supportive. I don't have an exact tally for you.
I think part of it is that, you know, up
until a couple of years ago, the people on the
South Side were in part of Andre Carson's district and
they know how terrible of a congressman he has been
and how ineffective he has been, so frankly, you know,
by whatever means necessary, they are more than happy to
give that guy the boot. And you know, at the
(14:00):
end of the day, I've been pretty vocal about this
from the beginning. You know, nobody had to wring my
arm to do it. I'm very supportive of this because
I think it's really important to start leveling the national
playing field. And it's nice to have, you know, somebody
at the top of your party, the President of the
United States right now, who's ready to play by the Democrats'
rules to fight back in the way that they have.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Been for years.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Representative Andrew Ireland is joining us. Do you have time
to stick around for just a few more minutes? Okay,
We've got to take a break, and when we come back,
a few more questions and also a little fun.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Okay, sounds good?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right. It is the Kendall and Casey Show. It's
ninety three WIBC. It is the Kendelling Casey Show on
ninety three w IBC. My name is Casey Daniels, Rob
Kendall with the day off.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Jim is in and also joining us in the studio,
we have Indiana Representative Andrew Ireland, and I want to
talk about the federal Republicans because you know what, I'm
just going to let you read what my normal co
host Rob Kendall has sent you the message that he
asked you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I know Rob's out on the golf course today,
but it looks like he's still got the time between
holes too.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Since the messages here.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So Rob asked us, So when adding two more Jefferson
Shrieves to Congress doesn't make anyone's life any better? Who
will you pick as the next boogeyman?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
You know, I get the sentiment there. I've got all
sorts of frustrations with what's going on in Congress generally,
particularly with congressional Republicans, where it seems like every cycle
we get Republicans that go and say, we're going to
fight for you, and we're going to cut taxes and
the fiscal piece is the most important. We've got this
national debt that you know is hanging over our heads,
and then every year it's like we're back at the
(15:42):
same place, if not worse, where we spend more money,
we tax people more and things don't get better. I
got to tell you, I don't know if the other
side offers you more on that. Frankly, you've got two
parties out there. Both of them want to tax the
Jesus out of you, I think is Rob says, I
totally agree with that. But on the other side, in
addition to all doing all that, all those same things,
they also want to go and have abortion on demand.
(16:03):
They want to go and have gender reassignment surgeries for children,
these kind of things that are just absolutely radical, crazy
things where if I've got to choose between the squishiest Republican,
which if I had to choose it, and this is
my only choice, or Andre Carson on the other side,
a guy who couldn't even vote in favor of the
resolution honoring Charlie Kirk, that choice is still pretty easy
(16:24):
for me. I don't like it, but you know, again,
between the two, that's a pretty easy choice.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So you're talking mainly social issues, but we added a
trillion dollars to the national debt in two months, and
that's with Republicans in control of the White House, the Senate,
and the House. So I guess the question is you're
not letting representation for forty percent of the state of
Indiana take place, and you're basing it on social issues,
(16:52):
then yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I mean, look, look what's going on right now with
the shutdown. Right, so, you've got Republicans who in the
House have already done this. In the Senate, they keep
trying to do it. They've passed a continuing resolution where
they want to spend the amount of money that we
already are and you've got Democrats who say, no, no, no,
that's actually not enough. We want to spend more money,
and in fact, we want to spend that money specifically
on illegal aliens and expanding Obamacare. I mean, these kind
(17:13):
of things that it's really frustrating to see because I'd
really like to see some party step up and say, actually,
maybe we need to spend less money this year.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, maybe this dead is a problem.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Can we do this and stop mortgaging people's futures? Right,
that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Where's the special session where we stop spending all this money? Yes, absolutely,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
All right, it is a representative Andrew Ireland with us,
and I appreciate you coming in, by the way, thank
you very much. I don't know if these were hard
hitting questions that everybody wanted, but hopefully they were some answers.
And you spent yesterday in Costco with your baby, how'd
it go?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You know, it was a harrowing experience. We braved one
of the most dangerous places on Earth, a Costco on
a Sunday afternoon after church. But you know we survived.
I'm still here. We succeeded. And the ultimate mission there,
which is to get the Costco meat loaf. If you've
ever heard, if you've not had the Costco meat loaf
(18:11):
like the homemade you know, meat loaf of the mashed
potatoes on the side, strongly recommend you try it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Honestly, it's one of their best items. I'm a real say.
This is where I get upset at because I love
Costco and there all the time, but I've never had
the Costco meat loaf because i happened to live with
somebody that does not like meat loaf. That's true, you knew.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You can find the picture of Andrew's purchases at Andrew Ireland.
I n and the reason I wanted to bring up
Costco is again, I go back to you were just
at the grocery store and we're being told by the
President the grocery prices are coming down and gas prices
are coming down.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But here in Indiana, the gas prices are not coming down.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And I don't know what your grocery bill was, but
it was probably a little higher than it used to be.
So your voters want you to focus on that rather
than the redistricting, What say you?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So, I think we can walk and chew gum at
the same time, right, So, I think you can redistrict
but also really focus on the issues that matter to
the people. I mean, that's that's what I've been doing
from the moment that I got there, is really focused
on that. I had my own property tax plan. Obviously
we didn't move forward with it. I've got a bill
I'm working on right now, and whether it's for this
session or you know, the next one is associated with
the gas tax. The guy you talked about it a
(19:31):
little bit, maybe the last time that gym was here.
But you know, we have remittances, so this is money
that is transferred out of the country that worker is
often illegal aliens. I think we should be taxing that
instead of hardworking hoosiers and use that money to pay
down you know, the gas tax is a credit for
hardworking Hoosiers, so you're not paying these ridiculous gas taxes.
So hey, you got an ally there on all of that.
(19:53):
I think that there's something to be said that Republicans
need to do more at the state and federal level
to really go and do what they campaign on for
the beginning, which is trying to make life easier for people,
not to tax us, you know, out of existence.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, well, I mean that's what they're there for, right
It's the voters picking representation, not representation picking their voters. Andrew,
I appreciate you coming in and sticking around for a half.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Hour with us.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, no, it good to be back.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It is the Kendally Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC. Well,
we really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Representative Andrew Ireland coming in and joining the Kendal and
k C Show and talking redistricting. If you missed it,
you can go back and listen at noon because we
don't care what you do with Tony cass Is on. Yeah,
but he spent a lot of time with us talking.
But I did want to let you know. It is
now being reported that a spokesperson regard a spokesperson said
(20:50):
regarding the upcoming special session that the votes still aren't
there for redistricting.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Can you imagine they go through this whole process, months
and months of talking about redistricting, trying to whip up
the votes, Braun finally calls a special session. We have
a special session, debate ensues, bills are put in, and
they don't get the votes to redraw the maps. Can
you imagine if that happened?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, what are the maps?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's my question question, what are the official maps that
they're proposing? And that could be intentional as well, because
then that takes the heat off of Governor Mike Braun.
He can go to the Trump administration and said, hey,
we did what you asked us to do. It still
(21:35):
didn't happen, and now that will be potentially a consequence
of any no votes.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Sure, just blame the reps, the state senators that didn't
vote for it. You're right, that's actually a great point, Dany.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And was that the goal all along.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right to go through the motions on this to make
the Trump administration happy, and then whatever happens happens, and
if we don't get enough votes to pass it, then fine,
Braun can sit here and say not my fault. Look
over there, it's not my fault. But yeah, huge props
to Andrew Ireland for coming in here. He knows that
certainly this show has disagreed with his position, but he
(22:09):
comes in here anyway and takes the tough questions and
goes to Costco on a Sunday afternoon with the Toddler.
Andrew Ireland may have more guts than anybody, any other
elected official in the entire state for those two things
right there.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
President Trump, he announced the termination of all US trade
negotiations with Canada, and this decision was prompted by a
Canadian ad featuring Ronald Reagan criticizing tariffs. So the Ontario
Premier Doug Ford he launched a seventy five million dollar
ad campaign and the US. The ad used edited clips
(22:43):
of Reagan's nineteen eighty seven radio address, which promoted free
trade and opposed tariffs. Let's listen to a quick snippet
of the ad.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
When someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it
looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American
products and jobs. And sometimes for a shortened vivid works
but only for a short time, but over the long run,
such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer. High
(23:17):
tariffs inevitably lead the retaliation by foreign countries and the
triggering of fierce trade warks than the worst tackles, market
shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shutdown, and millions of
people lose their jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation claimed that the ad
misrepresented Reagan's viewsed and was used without permission. Of course,
Donald Trump called the ad fake and accused Canada of
fraudulent using Reagan's image.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Can Canada could not have screwed this entire process up
more if they have tried.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Canada can't use Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Only we can use Ronald Reagan. It's just like animal house.
Do you get do that to our pledges? Only we
can do that to our plague?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But then, and look, I get Canada. I understand. You know,
Trump called you the fifty first state. You guys are
very very patriotic in your own little ways up there
in the North, and that didn't feel so good. And
Trump changed all the tariffs, and that's certainly gonna hurt
your economy. But let's be honest, this is a really
really bad idea to go toe to toe with the
(24:20):
United States on something like this. So Rob Ford is
or Doug Ford rather is the premiere of Ontario. From
all indications are, he went and did this on his own.
This wasn't an AD that was approved by the federal
government and Carnee and sanctioned by them. Looks like he
kind of went and did this on his own and
really upset Trump. And because of this ad, Trump has
(24:42):
shut down all conversations with Canada on these trade negotiations.
This is a war that Canada cannot win. There is
no way that they are going to end up winning
this and and in fact, I think this AD just
made things just one hundred times worse for them for
the exact reason that you said, you know what, do
not dare come into our country and use Ronald Reagan's
(25:03):
own words against us? Not a chance. That's just not
going to go well. And that was not a smart
move by that premiere.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So Trump has suggested that the AD was intended to
influence the Supreme Court case on tariffs, and now the
Reagan Foundation reviewing their legal options regarding the ADS use.
So this is the second time now that Trump has
terminated trade talks with Canada.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The first one occurred in June.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But Doug Ford is the younger brother of Rob Ford.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yees. So if this name sounds familiar, and there was
a Canadian politician about ten twelve years ago named Rob
Ford and he was the mayor of Toronto, and Doug
Ford is his brother, they look very similar. They're speaking,
mannerisms in style are very similar, and both have a
track record of kind of going off the rails a
(25:54):
little bit. Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
In twenty thirteen, Rob Ford the brother he admitted to
smoking crack cocaine.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You asked me, You asked me a question back in May,
and you can repeat that question.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Is the question we asked him back in May?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Can you use you? You asked me a couple of questions,
and what.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Were those questions?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Do you smoke crack cocaine? Exactly?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yes, I have some look at crack cocaine, but no
do I am I an addict?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
When have I tried it? Probably in one of my
drunken stupors.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Probably talk remember about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Stop talking.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I answered your question. You asked the question properly, I'll
answer it. Yes, I've made misakes. I've made mistakes. All
I can do now is apologize and move on.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I don't know what guys, okay, I can I just all.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I can say is I've made mistakes. That's and you
guys can't referring to alcohol. There was a couple like
slate incidents. There's been times when I've been in a
drunken stupor. That's why I want to see the tape.
I want everyone in the city to.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
See this tape.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
May stop talking. He's making it worse.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
First of all, he begged the reporters to repeat the
question that they had originally asked him, and then he
admitted to smoking crack cocaine and then blamed it on
being in a drunken stupor. Like it's getting worse.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Stop talking. I'm so glad that his brother, current you know,
PM of Ontario came in and was in the news
because it reminded I'd forgot all about Rob Ford. There
was a period of time ten to twelve years ago
when when Rob Ford was the mayor of Toronto, and
he would have a press conference every couple of days
where he'd say something totally ridiculous like this, and by
the way him smoking crack. That video is not the
(27:37):
worst thing they ended up getting released. Yeah, and it's
out there, And the interview we just heard of Rob
Ford also not the most ridiculous thing he's ever done.
And in fact, we did have some audio about a
completely different subject that was even more ridiculous than him
smoking crack, but we really couldn't find a way to
clean it up enough to make it arable on an
FCC regulated radio station.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Not put that audio clip of him saying even something
more salacious, because I thought it was just too offensive
even for me to ask Kevin to pull the audio.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But this is the older brother of Doug Ford.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Of Doug Ford, the guy who's running the Ronald Reagan
ads in Canada.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, obviously one of the most entertaining political families to
ever come out of Canadian politics, uh huh. Not for
their bad not entertaining to them, but certainly entertaining to me.
And certainly both of those brothers have a track record
of kind of going off the reservation and doing things
on their own when the rest of the government's like, hey,
hold on there, settle down.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But it does make you wonder if bad choices run
in that family.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Clearly bad choices running that family. I can't believe we
couldn't play that other clip.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It It is too much.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's so ridiculous, too much, and so outrageous, naughty words
and so hilarious. And you're like, in fact, I showed
it to you last night and the first thing you
said to me is, oh, that's AI, right, Like, no,
this is this was like twenty twelve. This is way
before AI ever existed.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, it's real, highly inappropriate though.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So. Shoppers are increasingly deal focused due to tariffs and
economic uncertainty. We're two months away from Christmas. I know
many of you this week are focusing on Halloween. You've
got that in treating in costumes and Halloween becoming what
the second biggest holiday of the year people spend on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't like to call Halloween a holiday?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Really, why not?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
In my mind, it's not a holiday.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, So what's just it's what day? What criteria have
to be met for it to be called a holidays?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It's a lot of federal holiday. You don't get off work.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, it's with or without a government's show.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, So either the federal or state government declaring it
an official state or federal holiday. That's one criteria you
have for a holiday. Okay, what else?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I think that's probably.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You just feel like it's kind of a made up
I mean, it's totally made up holiday.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it's probably.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Has a lot to do with my upbringing and the
fact that Halloween was not celebrated in my house.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Uh, you went trigger treating though it.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Trigger treating, but there weren't decorations. And the costume, like
the one costume that I remember from trick or treating
was in any gen X is going to totally relate
to this.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It was a plastic mask. Oh yeah, the full face.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Mask, and then you had like a plastic I guess
you call it a drape of a costume.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It was. It was essentially a garbage bag with holes
cut it, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And it had the print out on top of it
of what you were supposed to be. And I was
Mickey Mouse and remember smelling the plastic and having a
hard time breathing and walking around with my pillow case.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, I don't think it was specifically your family though,
that that was that were the outliers in the late
seventies early eighties, Halloween was nowhere near what it was
to My family didn't put up Halloween decorations. I went
trigger treating every year, but that was about it was exactly.
But that was that was the vast majority of the population.
I mean, Halloween has exploded, especially the last twenty years,
(31:14):
into this massive holiday where people are putting twenty and
thirty foot you fake skeletons in there in their yard.
And I've seen now people putting up Halloween lights like
they put up Christmas lights, and costumes have been more
elaborate than they've ever been before. So I don't think
that you you had probably a very average Halloween experience
as a child. It's just that every child today is
(31:37):
different than the way things were back then.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the k Pop costume is very popular, and that's
from a Netflix show and apparently they only ordered so
many and they're running out, and that's what many of
the kids are wanting to be this So.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Now this is it's getting even closer to Christmas where
we're gonna have fist fights at Target when people are
fighting over costumes for Halloween her holidays. Normally it's over
the hot toy of the Christmas season. Now it's duking
it out over who's going to get the last Jack
Sparrow costume.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In regards to Christmas shopping, guess what they're already putting
it out. Retailers are reporting that consumers are trading down
this year rather than getting a premium item.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Trading down, trading down, that's what they're calling it.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, you'll get a premium instead of getting a premium
label or brand. You're you're gonna get a lesser than
still in the same vein as the gift, but just
one that's maybe not the five star.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Can't we just come out and say we're spending less.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It is the Kendel a Casey Show. It's ninety three WYBC.
You want to give a shout out to somebody in
the YouTube chat.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
The Kendell of Casey Show listeners are the best listeners
in the world because I love it when they play along.
Last segment, we talked about former Canadian politician Rob Ford
and how he was, you know, said all these ridiculous things.
We had all these clips to choose from. There was
a specific the clip that was just too hot for
us to play. We couldn't play it, so I want
to shout out Michael in the YouTube chat, all he
said is I have more than enough to eat at home.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah he knew that is the he was playing on.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's the end of the most famous Rob Ford clip
in in existence. So if you're anywhere near a little squeamish,
do not google rob Ford. I have more than enough to.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Eat everybody, now, don't don't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You cannot blame me for it at all. And if
anybody you can blame Michael in the YouTube chat where
you can watch this show, if you just go to
YouTube and type in Kendall and Casey in the YouTube
search bar, You're right.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
We do have the best listeners. They are tuned in,
they know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I mean, that's clips like fifteen years old. And he
was able to quote the end of it right there.
Michael in the YouTube chat, propo to you for playing along.
You're the listener of the day. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Let's talk about this news about cruise ships. They are
seeing a record year.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh good for outbreaks? Oh not good.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Twenty twenty five has seen twenty gastro intestinal illness it
breaks on cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's a new record.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Seems like we go through this with cruise ships. Every
few years there's a new cycle and we get all
of these horror stories and videos of the video problems
with cruise ships, and they usually end up having to
do with some awful stomach bug and broken cruise ship plumbing.
Do the math on how those two things don't work
very well.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Again, not a good time.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So Triple A is projecting that twenty point seven million
Americans will cruise this year, and that's a rise from
twenty one point seven million and uh or actually they're
expecting there to rise to twenty one point seven million
next year, but it is an eight point four increase
from last year. So regardless of all of these stories
(34:46):
about these outbreaks and people being affected on these cruise
ships and then plumbing breaking on the cruise ships, people
are still excited to get on those boats.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I've only been on one cruise in my entire life,
and I still don't know if I like cruises or not.
I had a great time because you and I went
with some family and we had It was the people
we went with that made that vacation. I'm sure I
would have been just as happy. And you know you
Clearwater Beach Florida as I would have been on the
cruise shop.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You liked it because you were there with me, that
is Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I was there with you. We were there with some
family and also an important point, we had the unlimited
drink package.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It may have been a contributing festor.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
That doesn't hurt. It is The Kenderly Casey Show.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's ninety three w I Easy
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!