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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The audacity of those people. No, no, no, wait wait, let
me say it again. Okay, the audacity of those people.
I cannot believe they did that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm not surprised by it. I think they were just
trying to direct us to get their message out.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
After all the crap that Braun and his people have pulled,
how they lied right to our face for months, how
they totally screwed us. They know exactly how we feel
about them, and they have the audacity to try to
big time you on your content on this show or
something posted to the website.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I don't think they were big timing me. I think
they were trying to big time our newsroom, which is
completely separate. If you're not aware, there are two divisions
here at WIBC. There is the newsroom and then the
talk opinion side the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And they don't like us and we don't like them.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
They tried to just give the facts on the shows,
for example, Kennel and Casey show, Yeah, we give you opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, And it's totally separate, like they don't consult us
about their you know, top or bottom of the hour newscast.
We don't consult them about show content. Now, we may
have a newsperson on like we have Brian Hedrick on
or John Herrick or whatever to talk about a news event,
but there is no like coordination on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They have no control over us. We have no control
over them.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Correct, We have different bosses.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Might be better if we had some control over them,
but we don't.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, So I leave you alone for one day, and
now you're like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So yesterday after Andrew Ireland joined US state representative. Yes,
I believe it was Kevin who wrote an article on
the redistricting. Yes, and let me see here the title
of the article, bron calls special session on redistrict So this.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Is sweet Kevin, our fabulous producer who has never harmed
anyone in his entire life and has always strived for
decent and goodness in the broadcasting industry and is not
at all controversial.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Correctro He wrote an article. You can find it at
WIBC dot com. Yes, and he kind of just did
a synopsis of what's going on with Braun calling the special.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The special session he said he wasn't going to call
if there weren't the votes and the pro tim of
the Senate. His spokes version has on multiple occasions said
they don't have the votes, correct, right, Okay, So if
anybody's being dishonest in this, it's Governor Braun who promised
not to call a special session if he didn't have
the votes, and now all of a sudden is calling
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a special session while one part of the of the
government here in Indiana saying we don't have the votes.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So yesterday one of Governor Braun's people, representative no name him, spokespeople.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Say he's a public person.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Name him Griffin.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Griffin read is that his name? Yeah? No, name him no? No, no.
He wanted to be a tough guy, name him Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So he sent an email to the newsroom and said
that he was just catching up on the news of
the day, wondering if they planned a contact the House
Comm's team because they have confirmed publicly that they have
the numbers, and that he thinks that they would confirm
as well. And so somebody in the newsroom replied back
and said, Hey, the piece you're referring to here was
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done on behalf of the Kendle in Casey show. You
need to reach out to them if you want changes.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right, And you're citing multiple sources, including the spokesperson for Rodbray,
who is the pro tem of the Senate, who said,
including yesterday, I read it with my own two little
eyes on multiple occasions, on multiple outlets, and it wasn't
like they came running out saying no, no, we didn't
say this.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
For the second time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
A spokesperson for the pro tem of the Senate has
said the votes are not there to pass redistricting.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Correct, And so I replied to him and I said, hey,
at the time of the publication, it was still being
reported that you didn't have the votes, and I attached
the link where the Indiana Senate pro spokesperson said, quote
the votes still aren't there for redistricting, and then I said,
when our show goes on the air Tuesday at nine am,
we will report the latest update, because it was after
(04:05):
we were off the air that House Republican Votes said
that they do have the votes. So what you've got
here is the House saying they have the votes, the
Senate saying they don't have the votes for redistricting. In
the article that was published at WIBC dot com, it
says a spokesperson for Indiana Senate President pro Tem Rob
(04:29):
Ray told ABC News on Wednesday that quote, the votes
aren't there for redistricting, so he said nothing about the House.
It was correct, that's what was reported, and you know
the audacity of me, he replied back, he said, thanks
for getting back to me, completely understand. Just wanted to
send this along for your story. And this morning I
sent him a note and said, hey, would the governor
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like to come on the show and talk about this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
See, I don't know any of this, and I feel
like you deliberately didn't tell me because you knew I
would blow a gasket like you deliberately And then you're laughing,
which we district, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Just get it from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
No, no, ye, come back, way go back. Can you read
that what he sent to you again?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I want you to read that to make sure my
ears because my vision is twenty ten, but my hearing
is not great, so I want to make sure I
heard that.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
His reply to me, Yes, yes, he said, thank you
for getting back to me. I completely understand. Just wanted
to send this along for your story. All the mast.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Rotten he was no good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You people screwed us, You lied to us, you used us,
you screwed our listeners over you. Your boss looked a
thousand people who were there on our say and said,
rolled up his sleeves and said he was going to fight.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And you screwed millions of people, and you have.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The audacity to contact us and say, oh, I just
wanted you to have this for your story.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
He wanted us to have the House comms people so
that we could say that in the House, they allegedly
have the votes in the Senate. It is still being reported.
Do they have the votes in the Senate? I know
Scott Baldwin's on board.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Now, well, it seemed like as of yesterday, why is
the whip count?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
No, no, here's the deal though, Griffin Reid, That's who
it is, right, Griffin Reid, who is listed here at
this LinkedIn he was is the press secretary for Indiana
Governor Mike Braun.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Don't ever email.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This show you got something to say, you are your delusional,
habitual lying boss, Mike Braun, have something to say, come
in and say to our face.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, that's what I sent him. I said, would the
governor like to come in and share with us the latest.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Status you'll come on every other show on this radio station,
but you don't have the guts to come on ours.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Why don't you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Come in and tell us about the whip count and
say it to our face. Don't ever email this show again.
We don't care about your insights. We don't care about
your suggestions.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What if the answers yes, that the governor will come
on and great.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But no more emails, no more email after each Yah,
is the email that he will come in?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
One more email yes.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Or no, unless it is Mike Brown will be here
at such and such a time to say it to
your face. Then lose our address, buddy, Okay, I mean
that is ridiculous. They screwed us, they used us, they
lied to us, and then they have the audacity be like.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh, we thought you'd like this information for your program.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Would you like to update your article?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Like what are we going to say?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Thanks, Griffin.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know, we totally want to carry the water for
the governor. We think he's a swell guy. We think
he's doing a great job lying, I mean, running the state.
We totally didn't get completely hosed and made to look
like a bunch of idiots because we told people who
didn't want to like him to begin with. No, it'll
be fine. Yeah, just sign us up for your corrections
and editorial comments and suggestions, Griffin, just send them right over.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I want to share with you something that Adam Wren,
our friend of the show, Yes, writes for Politico and Importantville.
Fifteen minutes ago, he tweeted this out Anna. Senate Republicans
are expected to caucus by phone at ten am, according
to a person briefed on their plans ahead of a
special session set to start Monday on mid cycle redistricting.
(08:12):
They are said to still not have the votes. But
let's just us what the article said.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Let's come back to what's going on here. Yeah, this
is a bunch of people who are pressuring these lawmakers
who don't live in our state. Some guy named d C.
Draino who lives in Florida, who cares.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Social media influencer what.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Normal person is like, Ah, crap, DC Draino doesn't like me.
I better do whatever he wants because he doesn't live
in our state. So, but that's what it is. It's
all these outside influencers. These people are who are on
Twitter and everything like that. They don't live here.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, the biggest outside influencer is the President of the
United States.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sure, and look, I I am loath to say anything
nice about Rod Bray, and it would just it would
It would tear my insides apart to have to do it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But if if he has the bollular.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Area to look Mike Brawn right in the eye and say,
I warned you, I told you, I essentially pleaded with
you not to do this, and you would not listen.
The votes are not there, thank you, goodbye. That would
be the most badass move ever. And I could have
nothing but the utmost praise and respect for a guy
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who did that. Now, I don't think he's going to
have the stones to stand up and do it, but
that is what he should do. He should look at
the governor and say, you are nothing but an errand
boy for the president who doesn't give a damn about
the state of Indiana. And we have warned you about
where our constituents are, and we have warned you about
where our legislators are, and you have forced us into
this for no reason other than you are afraid of
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the President of the United States and you don't have
the guts to stand up to him, you don't have
the guts to say what's right. You don't have the
guts to say what's best for Indiana. So we will
do it for you. And I hope you are embarrassed
to a level you could never imagine, and we are
done here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That would be so amazing, Casey.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Did you well, if he's steadfast in his convictions, we'll see.
But did you notice that there are other people now
that are circling the waggons on this. You've got the
comptroller who has come out publicly and said that she
is for redistrict.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So the comptroller who lost, was rejected by the voters
when she ran for treasurer, and then was Eric Holcomb's
very good friend and was in ads with Eric Holcomb
during COVID when he destroyed our state, and she was
in ads with him and thought he was doing a
great job. And then because she was a loser and
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lost at the convention, was rejected. Then he saved her
when the person who had just got elected the comptroller
quit despite the fact that she had just told people,
I want four more years of this job. Didn't quit
for health reasons or family reasons, that she divolced. She
just quit and took another job. Some rust my understanding.
He appointed this loser the comptroller who was just rejected
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by the voters. Oh, she has an opinion on the matter.
Oh did I get it right? I mean, did I
miss any step in that? On who are comptroller? Elist
N'shalla actually is a loser who got rejected by the
voters and then got saved by her friend Eric Holcombe,
who she said was doing a great job during.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
COVID doesn't have a vote.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But yeah, yeah, I just want to make sure I
nailed down who Elis Nashalla is when she's lifting her
voice up, who her friends are, and where she's at
on all of this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, at some point we have to address the
fact that during Governor Braun's announcement of the special session,
he said he also wants to align the state code
with federal changes from the one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He has to do.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But they are going to talk about other things besides redistricting.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But he has to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They would have done that at the start of See
this is that people are all up in.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Arms of this all they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
When you file a a tax return with the federal government,
then you submitted, it goes to the state ioex amount
to the state. The state does not have the personnel
like the federal government does with the i R S.
Now they have people who can look into things, you know,
major red flags, et cetera. But you're working off of
a federal tax return. So the states have to mirror
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what they do with federal law so that it makes sense.
You know, Democrat states have to do this, Republican states
have to do this. Like people are up in arms
over this, you know, on both ways, and it's like
this is this is not this is some glorified housekeeping thing.
They think they did this the last time when Trump
passed the the the bill when he was president, the
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tax reform bill. They like they have to do they.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Have to do like passing a balanced budget.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, like, there's not really an option with this. I mean,
I guess theoretically could not line the state tax code
up with the federal tax code, but that would cause
mass havoc.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So this is not a big a big thing one
way or another.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
All Right, We're got to talk about the food stamp people,
because you who made an interesting point about some things,
and I hope you'll share them when you come back
your personal experience, because not that you're on food. So
I'm saying something that you're doing right now, working towards
because of what could be happening, because of the changes
they're about to make.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right with the snack with the staff. Yeah, yeah, expiring.
You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, then this is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is very very interesting. So in the most recent election,
it's Kennlly Casey and Robin's Casey and my buddy Steve
and I are been having this conversation on us. My
buddy Steve, as we've mentioned him many times before, he
was a former local newspaper writer up in northern Indiana,
and he's very knowledgeable about government and he's like a
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like his ability to research and.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean, he's a numbers crunching guy.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He's an incredible guy. I'm very interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Look, we don't politically, we don't a lot of things,
but we have fun conversations about data. Because one of
the things we've kind of determined and we're currently going
back and forth on this is it's just this debate
we're we're trying to have like a logical debate with
people about the House of Representative stuff. That's your first mistake,
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and it's an exercise in futility because people just it
doesn't matter what info you give to them, Like I
am so frustrated by this because I keep trying to
have a rational conversation with people, and no matter what
you refute or show them, they.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Don't want to have it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
They have in their mind that there's this big conspiracy
in the House because Trump has said it. This is
the danger we're in now, or anytime Trump says something,
it just becomes the deal. And then everybody, because they're
subservient to Trump, just latches onto the thing no matter
how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There, well, there's subservient and there's also writing coattails. No,
I think it's a mix of the tibe.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right right, right right, so, but the reality on the ground,
it's like the thing And I put this up at
Robin Kendall there, there's finally been a guy who posted
that he tried to draw a map in Massachusetts and
he found a way to draw a seat that leans Republican.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We posted it for you to see.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That's what this Massachusetts boogeyman is because we said, Andrew Ireland,
none of these people can produce Micah Braun Massachusetts, this
Massachusetts that they can't produce the map. One guy finally
found a map that like, it's like a snake map.
You've seen it. You can see it at Robin Kendall.
Right now, Casey, if you if you go there, I've
retweeted it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You could see it. I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's a totally gerrymandered district that quote unquote Trump won
in twenty four But it's everything they claimed a bitch about,
like in Massachuset. Look at that district the way it
like it like arcs up. But anyway, the point is
they found a district that would be a toss up
based on Trump being on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Now keep in mind Republicans down ballot normally.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Where is successful Animald Tron.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Trump, They wouldn't he wouldn't be on the ballot this time.
But you found a district that might be competitive. That's
Braun and Mike and Andrew Ireland's boogieyman is they've on
odd district in Massachusetts that if you drew it in
favor of the Republicans, which why would Democrats do that.
Republicans don't do that here might go to the Republicans,
probably not, but could go to the Republicans. That's the
best they can do. That's their Massachusetts boogeyman. Now, statistically,
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so I went to ballot ballot Pedia and because my
buddy Steve was tweeting out about this, and the Republicans
in twenty twenty four nationwide won forty nine point seven
percent of the total vote for the House of Representats.
So nationwide, like, how many votes were cast in favor
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of Republican candidates for US House? How many were cast
in favor of the Democrat? Nationwide, Republicans won less than
fifty percent of the vote, forty nine point seven percent.
They hold fifty point six of the seats.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
In the House. How many votes should Republicans beginning in
the House when nationwide they didn't win fifty percent of
the vote. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, like the like they already have more seats than
votes they won. We live in this like illogical thing.
First of all, we act like Democrats, the only people
who jerrymander. Every state jerrymanders in favor of one way
or another. But nationwide, the House votes match basically what
the nationwide vote was, slightly leaning in favor of the Republicans.
So what should there be seventy percent of the House
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votes with less than fifty percent of the vote should
be Republican.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well what is the number? Yeah, well that's what people think, right,
he won forty nine point seven percent or Republicans won
forty nine point seven percent, but they should have a
larger amount.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean democratic presentation.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Democrats have won forty seven point two percent of the
votes nationwide, they have ninety or a forty nine point
four percent of the seats.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They're in the minority. There, you know there's a yeah,
I mean like it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Basically you're never going to make it match up vote
for vote percentage percent as identical. Hm.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But that's pretty darn close.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Pretty equitable.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And this is where it's so frustrating, which is you
have people who have so been to knee to party
or ideology, and in this case, the ideology is subservience
to Trump that all logic and reason goes out the window,
and it doesn't matter what you tell them, it doesn't
matter that we have now basically proven you can't draw
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a Massachusetts map where there's all these Republican seats. The
seats mirror the nationwide voting, and it's slightly in favor
of the Republicans. There always has to be and this
is the trend with Trump. There always they always have
to be a victim. There always has to be a boogeyman.
There always has to be someone to blame. It always
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has to be somebody else's fault, always has to be something.
We're just this away, which is really really not even Trump.
The Republicans have been doing this. It is Trump, but
the Republicans have been doing this for years. Remember when
Obama was president. Just get us, the House will repeal Obamacare.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh, we couldn't do it. We need the Senate. Just
get us, the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Will repeal Obambacer they get the Senate, Oh, we just
need the presidency. Is Obamacare still the thing? It is
still the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And they got all of those things, and each time
they were asked to get those things, they didn't follow through,
and there was now the new thing is, well, there's
not sixty votes in the Senate. There's always somebody else's fault.
There's always somebody else to blame. They never look in
the mirror and say, you know what, it's us, Well,
we are chilled.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Their rush to do this is because of midterms.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sure, they can't win the votes. They can't win by
governing because they cater to special interest, They cater to
donors and lobbies. They catered to in this state, they
cater to government people like they did on property taxes
versus you. So they can't win this huge majority of
people in these you know, other districts. And so instead
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of just saying, how do we do that better? They go, wha,
We'll just change the maps, which means they'll never get
any better.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And then are they going to change them again after midterms?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well, sure they're going to have to because once they
alter these maps to make these districts more democratic, and
once they get Trump off their ass, because once he's
out of there, he don't care anymore, they'll go back
to the way they were because all they're going to
do is make these these swing these districts more swing
districts and then want to lose the districts.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's the crazy thing about all this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
In a couple of years, they'll go right back. That
gets anyway. I just want to point that.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Out that somebody did create a map.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
They got maybe one district that went for Trump but
was very close and probably would underperform and go Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But that's the best they could do.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And nationwide the US House almost mirrors identically the percentage
of votes Republicans got slightly in their favor in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey, it is ninety three WIBC. Okay,
So you made.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
An interesting point a few minutes ago, and I want
to delve into this because I just said, not even
dawned on me.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and that is the media.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The liberals are having an aneurysm over the fact that
some people might have to get off their ass and
go to work because these SNAP benefits.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Are expiring November first, as of the government shut down. Now,
isn't amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They're far more up in arms or the SNAP benefits
expiring than the military people.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Or the who aren't collecting getting getting paid. Right.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, but look, this is utterly ridiculous. So what is
the number of people on the SNAP benefits?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They say forty two million recipients across twenty two million
households are going to lose benefits starting November.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
First, forty two million people in a country of three
hundred and thirty five or forty million or whatever the
number is. Now, so I'm going to do a little
quick public school math here, if you'll indulge me. Right, Yeah,
So if you took forty two and you divide it
by three, let's say three thirty five, that's almost thirteen
percent of our population is on government assistance.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Look, I am not disputing that there are people who
need help in this country. I'm not disputing there are
people who have disabilities that prohibit them from working, or
that it causes you know, family members to have to
take care of them so they can work. I'm not
disputing that. But do we believed that that is thirteen
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percent of our population? Do we really believe that thirteen
percent of our population is so disabled that they can't
you know, take care of themselves or they don't have
family members who can you know, take care of themselves
in some capacity. Look, you know, we talk about our
sweet friend Michael, who we love, who is cerebral palsy,
who's our megafan.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We love you, Michael. We know you're listening today, listens
every day.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We love Michael. He made us these fabulous paintings. We
posted the picture of One of the things Michael can
still do and do very well, is he can paint
pictures with his hands, and he made us these incredible pictures.
It sits right on the It sits right on the
on my desk, right when I get into my office. Now,
it's great people like him, Absolutely, they have no ability
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to provide for themselves. They his parents have to help
take care of him, and I understand that, but there's
a let's face it, we would be totally not even
kidding ourselves if we said that there are not a
lot of people in this country who are are capable
of taking care of themselves at least in some capacity,
and are simply able to not do that because of
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the how we have exploded government benefits, especially during COVID
and afterwards.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So in May of this year, seven point eight billion
in benefits were distributed. The average household benefit was three
hundred and fifty one dollars and twenty eight cents. Now,
if you're how much, what was the number? Three hundred
and fifty one dollars twenty eight cents.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And that's monthly, yes, Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
A four person household with a fifteen hundred dollars net
income would receive about five hundred and fifty four dollars
a month.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So one of the things you mentioned, which is fascinating
because of course we saw this during COVID. People go
insane during times of crisis and they can't.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Supporting the toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
For an example, possibly by the way, I still have
you'll love this sweet amazing Terry Stacey. When the COVID
thing happens, she somehow got toilet paper. So the toilet
this will You've worked in many big offices. The toilet
paper they had here was not great, very thin. It's
the Econo toilet paper, and she somehow got a whole
bunch of it, and she was like, hey, here do
(24:11):
you want this? And I was like, well, hey, in
case of emergency or whatever, cause you don't know how
long people are gonna be insane, like I'll keep it.
And I've kept that giant. It's not a role like
it's rolled up like you get at the store. It's
like the you know, like you see it a toilet
at a public restroom. I've kept that as a COVID
souvenir for five and a half going on six years
now as a reminder of how ridiculous COVID actually gotten
(24:32):
so everywhere. You know, I still have it in my
house as a reminder of how ridiculous it is. But
you'd made a good point, which is during COVID for
the most part, I'd like, she was my girlfriend at
the time, but I did not let my wife for
the most part go to the store. And now occasionally
she had to. But it was like, people are insane,
people are nuts. I'm going to go deal with this,
(24:55):
you know, so that you have to do. And you
made a good point. We may see some of the
again if these people, these these people who don't want
decerately don't want to work, aren't able to get these benefits,
because it's never the good people, the decent people, people
deserve it, who do these sorts of things. For the
most part, it's always the people who believe they're entitled
to something and they're mad it's going to be taken
away from them.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You may run the risk of seeing it again.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, I've seen more and more people on social media
saying that you know, I'm still going to go to
the grocery store. I'm still going to get my food
and supplies, and you're not going to stop me even
if I don't have my benefits anymore, meaning they're just
going to go in and take it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, they've been rewarded in a lot of places in
these major cities that we've seen where people just go
in and steal stuff, and the drug stores or whatever
just let them go.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Now. You made a good point.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Though.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Your daughter lives in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, and you've like sent your husband on a mission
out there to say, Jim, you have to go to
the store stock up for her because you don't want
her going to the store.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, I want to make sure that she's safe. Hopefully
the government will reopen back up up and this won't
be an issue. But I told him he's going to
be going there, and I said, your job while you
go there is to make sure that she is loaded
up on groceries, gas, and her prescriptions so that I
don't have to worry about it. Now. One thing that
(26:17):
you have to consider about this message to him is
I was thinking of this because of this guy and
what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Bro is waiting in the dispensary parking lot asking people
if they have any spare roaches. I don't think y'all
understand the crash out levels is about to go through
the roof. No food stamps equals no to less weed money,
like you'll about to have people out here angry and sober.
That's a diabolical combination because the food money got to
(26:48):
come out of some budget, and that's the first one
it usually comes from.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
All I'm saying is just be.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Nicer to people in these coming days, because that blunt
and those snacks may have been the only thing stopping
your co from put you first in line for meet
and greet with God Almighty.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So in Baltimore, marijuana is legal and you can smell
it everywhere. And when I saw that video, I thought, Okay,
if that's true and people are going to be a
little upset angry, as he put it, I want to
make sure my kid is safe.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, that's probably accurate, but it's also pathetic. I think
about that's where we're at as a society, and one
of the things that we've refused to address is that
our society collectively, like I'm not even talking from like
a moral stand but I'm talking just from a structural standpoint,
is so broken that you're going to see some of
these things on full display again. We should be having
(27:42):
a conversation why is thirteen percent of our population on
some sort of government assistance? But we're not having that conversation.
The conversation isn't about, which is what a government shutdown
should be about.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It should be like, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
There's no reason for thirteen percent of the population to
be on government assistance.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Why are we fighting for that?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, they're They're like, oh, everybody's going back on once
we reopen the government, because all we did was fund
the bidens spending levels. And the Republicans. My dad and
I were talking about this yesterday when we were driving home,
and I said, you know, one of the things that
the Republicans are up against, which is fascinating, is the
greatest thing they have at their disposal they can't use
because they'd have to admit to their base what they are,
(28:19):
which is, hey, Democrats, all we're doing is funding Joe
Biden's government. But they can't do it because if they
say it out loud, they have to admit that they've
lied to their base.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Again, which is that what they do all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And so They're really stuck between a rock and a
hard place because the greatest weapon at their disposal they
can't use. Our society, our government structurally is so broken.
We are cratering towards insolvency. This stuff is going to
start happening more and more frequently, and all we're talking
about doing is ways to keep it going or make
(28:53):
it worse.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well, here's something to consider as you're talking about insolvency.
Snap cost one hundred three billion dollars last year. How
much one hundred point three billion dollars? Yeez, But that's
less than two percent of the federal budget.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, I mean you're running your interest is like approaching
a trillion dollars annually.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What we pay like out the window.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Think about when you pay your mortgage, right, And I
got the OCD, So this really bothers me that when
I pay my mortgage, I hate that such a large
portion of it goes to nothing, like it goes to
the bank right or to the lender. And that really
bothers me. I'm like, I'm just throwing this into the abyss, right.
It doesn't do anything to help me. It just helps
(29:40):
some you know, large corporation that's managing my loan. And
that's essentially what we're doing because our spending has been
so irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Think about how many.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
People a trillion dollar could feed, how many military members
it could pay, and we're just lighting it on fire
because we won't get.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Our spending in this country under it's never going to stop.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, it's just another arrow to the dysfunction that is
happening in DC. Look at the government shutdown that's going on.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All right, what are we doing next? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, we could talk about Donald Trump saying that he
had an MRI oh at Walter Reed Medical Center while
he was there. That was kind of news to ever
Katny or or Brian Kelly got fired from LSU.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, we got to take a victory lap on that
as Notre dame fans, don't we?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think so? It is, Kennelly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay, okay, this.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We've got a lot of important stuff going on in
the world right now and here in Indiana. But this
next story has my undivided attention. I'm so enthralled by this.
Tell me all about it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
So we'll talk about Trump's MRI and Brian Kelly later
I mentioned this and you're like, oh wait what.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and then this is great. It's Kelly Casey, Jean
Rob that's Casey. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Single people are paying two hundred dollars each to hold
each other in dark rooms.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm sorry what you heard me?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Single people they're paying two hundred dollars to hold each
other in dark rooms. So they've got like these dimly
lit rooms with candles around and red cushion chairs arranged
in pairs, and people strangers who are single, they're supposed
to be single anyway, walk in and the whole point
(31:24):
is to just go hold someone. And they're paying. It's
like a cover charge. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, iFeel like I've missed a step here.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's called the Fields and it started at Columbia University,
where's it's now got nationwide. It's the nationwide business franchise
events held in cities across the United States. And the
person who created it, Alfie Hoffman, says that they believe
(31:54):
that modern dating is broken due to the macro level
forces like capitalism, technology, and pop culture. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm not disputing that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I still don't understand where the I must pay to
go into a dark room and hold a stranger comes in.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
There's two different levels by the way, in pricing, Oh,
you can pay level one. You can pay between ninety
and one hundred dollars. You don't take a survey and
you don't get personalized matching, or you can up it
to two hundred dollars and that includes a pre event
survey to match with participants based on emotional intelligence and
(32:29):
spiritual atonement.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So it's like a dating gap but in person.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But it's not really dating. It's just to cuddle.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well, I don't get to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, you can if you want.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Why would I need to connect with you if I
can't talk to you?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Because you want to be held, You want some physical touch.
Attendees have shared feelings like I feel seen and I'm
more at ease in my body and I was warmly renewed.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wait, I feel like I missed a step here. Now
let me understand, because I'm not I'm not. I mean,
I guess I'm being judgy. But so you pay money,
you go to this dark room. Correct, you find a stranger.
Uh huh, you cuddle with them?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Correct, you got it?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
But why would you pay the money?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
What you like, because if you're do you know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How many drinks one hundred dollars could buy? I could
find someone you could.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Get more than a hug.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Saying, right, I mean, I mean I feel like we're
really you're really selling yourself short. If you're I mean
one hundred dollars, that's you can do a lot of
damage with one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay. The fields, which is what this place is called.
They say it's less about finding the one and more
about learning tools for deeper connection.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Aren't there like forum boards or the dating app? They
charge for these dating apps? Is it costs money to
be on them?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
They're usually free?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It is?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
It is something The popular ones are free.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
How do they make money? They sell ads? Or something like?
How does the dating app make money?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Can pay for a premium account, and I think you
get access to certain things like different filters like LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, it's like, but are there ads on these dating
sites like brought to you by sometimes Oca Cola or yeah,
occasionally you'll get They gotta make money somehow, product placement.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean, I was thinking some other things, but this
is a Family Program, and I didn't want to things
that were popping into my head. I didn't want to
throw out there. I'll tell you off the air once
we get to the commercial break, well, that would be
a good product placement. Uh, You're like, I can't wait
to get away from this guy because you've al almost
made it four years. I know you're closing in on
four years.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The season three finale of Indianapolis is a banger.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I just I don't understand why people are paying for this.
I don't I don't get what you're getting. I mean,
I mean, I'm not saying this would be okay, but
your name is supposed to be getting handsy with the person,
Like it's just you're supposed to like.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Just just go and be held.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah. Just it's like a Meloncamp song.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Everyone needs a hand to hold onto this Mellon Camp, right.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I wonder if there's stipulation, is any what you can
hold strong? Like it's just just a long embrace, a
long hug.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I don't know, I'm asking you. Have you never heard
of this, Kevin? What is the age range of these people?
Does it say is there a target?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Is there are I imagine it's gen z ish eighteen
thirty four people who aren't going out anymore to meet people.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
So, keV, would you be if we are there any
in Indianapolis?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Does it say no, not yet, keV. If they it'll come.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
If they have one here? In case you never willing
to pay the fee? Would you would you go to
this for us for the show?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I mean I'd probably stroll down there. Yeah, I
mean you can shift.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No, I mean you can't just stroll down. You have
to go in and be a part of the we want.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The whole experience. You probably have to sign some sort
of waiver that you can't record your experience.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
You can't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, you can talk about it, you
just can't videotape.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So, if they have one here, case would you it'd
be fifty we would probably be willing to do.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, we'd have to go at least forty five to
get the minimum, and oh it's ninety to get in ninety.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So we'd have to get forty five dollars. But you
have to stay the whole time.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You can't just like go in there and like be
like there are a bunch of broad ripple threes and
I'm out of here.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Well, how long of a session is this?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think it's however long you want you just go in.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
We want you to cuddle to with at least three
people that we'd have to come up with some sort
of like numbers, like a bare minimum that we would
want you to cuddle with. Right, Yeah, this sounds like
the creepiest thing ever.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
The creator said that her dream is for participants to
carry the practices into their everyday life. Huh, asking open questions,
offering longer hugs, and reflecting presents. You have to be
very friendzent.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
What do I did this in broad Ripple for years.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
From all the way and you only got charged with
like a five dollars cover.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, there's not even cocktails involved in this.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh there's I was going to ask, is there any like?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
No, I don't think gen Z doesn't really drink, that's true.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
There's just somebody's creating ways for gen Z to meet people.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
This is rotten. This is just rotten and horrible. Be unbelief.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Somebody saw a need and is trying to fill it.
It is the Kennell and Casey Show. It's ninety three
WYBC
The audacity of those people. No, no, no, wait wait, let
me say it again. Okay, the audacity of those people.
I cannot believe they did that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm not surprised by it. I think they were just
trying to direct us to get their message out.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
After all the crap that Braun and his people have pulled,
how they lied right to our face for months, how
they totally screwed us. They know exactly how we feel
about them, and they have the audacity to try to
big time you on your content on this show or
something posted to the website.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I don't think they were big timing me. I think
they were trying to big time our newsroom, which is
completely separate. If you're not aware, there are two divisions
here at WIBC. There is the newsroom and then the
talk opinion side the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And they don't like us and we don't like them.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
They tried to just give the facts on the shows,
for example, Kennel and Casey show, Yeah, we give you opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, And it's totally separate, like they don't consult us
about their you know, top or bottom of the hour newscast.
We don't consult them about show content. Now, we may
have a newsperson on like we have Brian Hedrick on
or John Herrick or whatever to talk about a news event,
but there is no like coordination on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They have no control over us. We have no control
over them.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Correct, We have different bosses.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Might be better if we had some control over them,
but we don't.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, So I leave you alone for one day, and
now you're like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So yesterday after Andrew Ireland joined US state representative. Yes,
I believe it was Kevin who wrote an article on
the redistricting. Yes, and let me see here the title
of the article, bron calls special session on redistrict So this.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Is sweet Kevin, our fabulous producer who has never harmed
anyone in his entire life and has always strived for
decent and goodness in the broadcasting industry and is not
at all controversial.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Correctro He wrote an article. You can find it at
WIBC dot com. Yes, and he kind of just did
a synopsis of what's going on with Braun calling the special.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The special session he said he wasn't going to call
if there weren't the votes and the pro tim of
the Senate. His spokes version has on multiple occasions said
they don't have the votes, correct, right, Okay, So if
anybody's being dishonest in this, it's Governor Braun who promised
not to call a special session if he didn't have
the votes, and now all of a sudden is calling
(02:33):
a special session while one part of the of the
government here in Indiana saying we don't have the votes.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So yesterday one of Governor Braun's people, representative no name him, spokespeople.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Say he's a public person.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Name him Griffin.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Griffin read is that his name? Yeah? No, name him no? No, no.
He wanted to be a tough guy, name him Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So he sent an email to the newsroom and said
that he was just catching up on the news of
the day, wondering if they planned a contact the House
Comm's team because they have confirmed publicly that they have
the numbers, and that he thinks that they would confirm
as well. And so somebody in the newsroom replied back
and said, Hey, the piece you're referring to here was
(03:15):
done on behalf of the Kendle in Casey show. You
need to reach out to them if you want changes.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right, And you're citing multiple sources, including the spokesperson for Rodbray,
who is the pro tem of the Senate, who said,
including yesterday, I read it with my own two little
eyes on multiple occasions, on multiple outlets, and it wasn't
like they came running out saying no, no, we didn't
say this.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
For the second time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
A spokesperson for the pro tem of the Senate has
said the votes are not there to pass redistricting.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Correct, And so I replied to him and I said, hey,
at the time of the publication, it was still being
reported that you didn't have the votes, and I attached
the link where the Indiana Senate pro spokesperson said, quote
the votes still aren't there for redistricting, and then I said,
when our show goes on the air Tuesday at nine am,
we will report the latest update, because it was after
(04:05):
we were off the air that House Republican Votes said
that they do have the votes. So what you've got
here is the House saying they have the votes, the
Senate saying they don't have the votes for redistricting. In
the article that was published at WIBC dot com, it
says a spokesperson for Indiana Senate President pro Tem Rob
(04:29):
Ray told ABC News on Wednesday that quote, the votes
aren't there for redistricting, so he said nothing about the House.
It was correct, that's what was reported, and you know
the audacity of me, he replied back, he said, thanks
for getting back to me, completely understand. Just wanted to
send this along for your story. And this morning I
sent him a note and said, hey, would the governor
(04:51):
like to come on the show and talk about this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
See, I don't know any of this, and I feel
like you deliberately didn't tell me because you knew I
would blow a gasket like you deliberately And then you're laughing,
which we district, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Just get it from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
No, no, ye, come back, way go back. Can you read
that what he sent to you again?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I want you to read that to make sure my
ears because my vision is twenty ten, but my hearing
is not great, so I want to make sure I
heard that.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
His reply to me, Yes, yes, he said, thank you
for getting back to me. I completely understand. Just wanted
to send this along for your story. All the mast.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Rotten he was no good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You people screwed us, You lied to us, you used us,
you screwed our listeners over you. Your boss looked a
thousand people who were there on our say and said,
rolled up his sleeves and said he was going to fight.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And you screwed millions of people, and you have.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The audacity to contact us and say, oh, I just
wanted you to have this for your story.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
He wanted us to have the House comms people so
that we could say that in the House, they allegedly
have the votes in the Senate. It is still being reported.
Do they have the votes in the Senate? I know
Scott Baldwin's on board.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Now, well, it seemed like as of yesterday, why is
the whip count?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
No, no, here's the deal though, Griffin Reid, That's who
it is, right, Griffin Reid, who is listed here at
this LinkedIn he was is the press secretary for Indiana
Governor Mike Braun.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Don't ever email.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This show you got something to say, you are your delusional,
habitual lying boss, Mike Braun, have something to say, come
in and say to our face.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, that's what I sent him. I said, would the
governor like to come in and share with us the latest.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Status you'll come on every other show on this radio station,
but you don't have the guts to come on ours.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Why don't you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Come in and tell us about the whip count and
say it to our face. Don't ever email this show again.
We don't care about your insights. We don't care about
your suggestions.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What if the answers yes, that the governor will come
on and great.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But no more emails, no more email after each Yah,
is the email that he will come in?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
One more email yes.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Or no, unless it is Mike Brown will be here
at such and such a time to say it to
your face. Then lose our address, buddy, Okay, I mean
that is ridiculous. They screwed us, they used us, they
lied to us, and then they have the audacity be like.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh, we thought you'd like this information for your program.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Would you like to update your article?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Like what are we going to say?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Thanks, Griffin.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know, we totally want to carry the water for
the governor. We think he's a swell guy. We think
he's doing a great job lying, I mean, running the state.
We totally didn't get completely hosed and made to look
like a bunch of idiots because we told people who
didn't want to like him to begin with. No, it'll
be fine. Yeah, just sign us up for your corrections
and editorial comments and suggestions, Griffin, just send them right over.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I want to share with you something that Adam Wren,
our friend of the show, Yes, writes for Politico and Importantville.
Fifteen minutes ago, he tweeted this out Anna. Senate Republicans
are expected to caucus by phone at ten am, according
to a person briefed on their plans ahead of a
special session set to start Monday on mid cycle redistricting.
(08:12):
They are said to still not have the votes. But
let's just us what the article said.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Let's come back to what's going on here. Yeah, this
is a bunch of people who are pressuring these lawmakers
who don't live in our state. Some guy named d C.
Draino who lives in Florida, who cares.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Social media influencer what.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Normal person is like, Ah, crap, DC Draino doesn't like me.
I better do whatever he wants because he doesn't live
in our state. So, but that's what it is. It's
all these outside influencers. These people are who are on
Twitter and everything like that. They don't live here.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, the biggest outside influencer is the President of the
United States.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sure, and look, I I am loath to say anything
nice about Rod Bray, and it would just it would
It would tear my insides apart to have to do it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But if if he has the bollular.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Area to look Mike Brawn right in the eye and say,
I warned you, I told you, I essentially pleaded with
you not to do this, and you would not listen.
The votes are not there, thank you, goodbye. That would
be the most badass move ever. And I could have
nothing but the utmost praise and respect for a guy
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who did that. Now, I don't think he's going to
have the stones to stand up and do it, but
that is what he should do. He should look at
the governor and say, you are nothing but an errand
boy for the president who doesn't give a damn about
the state of Indiana. And we have warned you about
where our constituents are, and we have warned you about
where our legislators are, and you have forced us into
this for no reason other than you are afraid of
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the President of the United States and you don't have
the guts to stand up to him, you don't have
the guts to say what's right. You don't have the
guts to say what's best for Indiana. So we will
do it for you. And I hope you are embarrassed
to a level you could never imagine, and we are
done here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That would be so amazing, Casey.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Did you well, if he's steadfast in his convictions, we'll see.
But did you notice that there are other people now
that are circling the waggons on this. You've got the
comptroller who has come out publicly and said that she
is for redistrict.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So the comptroller who lost, was rejected by the voters
when she ran for treasurer, and then was Eric Holcomb's
very good friend and was in ads with Eric Holcomb
during COVID when he destroyed our state, and she was
in ads with him and thought he was doing a
great job. And then because she was a loser and
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lost at the convention, was rejected. Then he saved her
when the person who had just got elected the comptroller
quit despite the fact that she had just told people,
I want four more years of this job. Didn't quit
for health reasons or family reasons, that she divolced. She
just quit and took another job. Some rust my understanding.
He appointed this loser the comptroller who was just rejected
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by the voters. Oh, she has an opinion on the matter.
Oh did I get it right? I mean, did I
miss any step in that? On who are comptroller? Elist
N'shalla actually is a loser who got rejected by the
voters and then got saved by her friend Eric Holcombe,
who she said was doing a great job during.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
COVID doesn't have a vote.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But yeah, yeah, I just want to make sure I
nailed down who Elis Nashalla is when she's lifting her
voice up, who her friends are, and where she's at
on all of this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, at some point we have to address the
fact that during Governor Braun's announcement of the special session,
he said he also wants to align the state code
with federal changes from the one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He has to do.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But they are going to talk about other things besides redistricting.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But he has to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They would have done that at the start of See
this is that people are all up in.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Arms of this all they're doing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
When you file a a tax return with the federal government,
then you submitted, it goes to the state ioex amount
to the state. The state does not have the personnel
like the federal government does with the i R S.
Now they have people who can look into things, you know,
major red flags, et cetera. But you're working off of
a federal tax return. So the states have to mirror
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what they do with federal law so that it makes sense.
You know, Democrat states have to do this, Republican states
have to do this. Like people are up in arms
over this, you know, on both ways, and it's like
this is this is not this is some glorified housekeeping thing.
They think they did this the last time when Trump
passed the the the bill when he was president, the
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tax reform bill. They like they have to do they.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Have to do like passing a balanced budget.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, like, there's not really an option with this. I mean,
I guess theoretically could not line the state tax code
up with the federal tax code, but that would cause
mass havoc.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So this is not a big a big thing one
way or another.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
All Right, We're got to talk about the food stamp people,
because you who made an interesting point about some things,
and I hope you'll share them when you come back
your personal experience, because not that you're on food. So
I'm saying something that you're doing right now, working towards
because of what could be happening, because of the changes
they're about to make.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right with the snack with the staff. Yeah, yeah, expiring.
You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, then this is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is very very interesting. So in the most recent election,
it's Kennlly Casey and Robin's Casey and my buddy Steve
and I are been having this conversation on us. My
buddy Steve, as we've mentioned him many times before, he
was a former local newspaper writer up in northern Indiana,
and he's very knowledgeable about government and he's like a
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like his ability to research and.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I mean, he's a numbers crunching guy.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He's an incredible guy. I'm very interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Look, we don't politically, we don't a lot of things,
but we have fun conversations about data. Because one of
the things we've kind of determined and we're currently going
back and forth on this is it's just this debate
we're we're trying to have like a logical debate with
people about the House of Representative stuff. That's your first mistake,
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and it's an exercise in futility because people just it
doesn't matter what info you give to them, Like I
am so frustrated by this because I keep trying to
have a rational conversation with people, and no matter what
you refute or show them, they.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Don't want to have it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
They have in their mind that there's this big conspiracy
in the House because Trump has said it. This is
the danger we're in now, or anytime Trump says something,
it just becomes the deal. And then everybody, because they're
subservient to Trump, just latches onto the thing no matter
how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There, well, there's subservient and there's also writing coattails. No,
I think it's a mix of the tibe.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Right right, right right, so, but the reality on the ground,
it's like the thing And I put this up at
Robin Kendall there, there's finally been a guy who posted
that he tried to draw a map in Massachusetts and
he found a way to draw a seat that leans Republican.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We posted it for you to see.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That's what this Massachusetts boogeyman is because we said, Andrew Ireland,
none of these people can produce Micah Braun Massachusetts, this
Massachusetts that they can't produce the map. One guy finally
found a map that like, it's like a snake map.
You've seen it. You can see it at Robin Kendall.
Right now, Casey, if you if you go there, I've
retweeted it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You could see it. I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's a totally gerrymandered district that quote unquote Trump won
in twenty four But it's everything they claimed a bitch about,
like in Massachuset. Look at that district the way it
like it like arcs up. But anyway, the point is
they found a district that would be a toss up
based on Trump being on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Now keep in mind Republicans down ballot normally.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Where is successful Animald Tron.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Trump, They wouldn't he wouldn't be on the ballot this time.
But you found a district that might be competitive. That's
Braun and Mike and Andrew Ireland's boogieyman is they've on
odd district in Massachusetts that if you drew it in
favor of the Republicans, which why would Democrats do that.
Republicans don't do that here might go to the Republicans,
probably not, but could go to the Republicans. That's the
best they can do. That's their Massachusetts boogeyman. Now, statistically,
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so I went to ballot ballot Pedia and because my
buddy Steve was tweeting out about this, and the Republicans
in twenty twenty four nationwide won forty nine point seven
percent of the total vote for the House of Representats.
So nationwide, like, how many votes were cast in favor
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of Republican candidates for US House? How many were cast
in favor of the Democrat? Nationwide, Republicans won less than
fifty percent of the vote, forty nine point seven percent.
They hold fifty point six of the seats.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
In the House. How many votes should Republicans beginning in
the House when nationwide they didn't win fifty percent of
the vote. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, like the like they already have more seats than
votes they won. We live in this like illogical thing.
First of all, we act like Democrats, the only people
who jerrymander. Every state jerrymanders in favor of one way
or another. But nationwide, the House votes match basically what
the nationwide vote was, slightly leaning in favor of the Republicans.
So what should there be seventy percent of the House
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votes with less than fifty percent of the vote should
be Republican.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well what is the number? Yeah, well that's what people think, right,
he won forty nine point seven percent or Republicans won
forty nine point seven percent, but they should have a
larger amount.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean democratic presentation.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Democrats have won forty seven point two percent of the
votes nationwide, they have ninety or a forty nine point
four percent of the seats.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They're in the minority. There, you know there's a yeah,
I mean like it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Basically you're never going to make it match up vote
for vote percentage percent as identical. Hm.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But that's pretty darn close.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Pretty equitable.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And this is where it's so frustrating, which is you
have people who have so been to knee to party
or ideology, and in this case, the ideology is subservience
to Trump that all logic and reason goes out the window,
and it doesn't matter what you tell them, it doesn't
matter that we have now basically proven you can't draw
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a Massachusetts map where there's all these Republican seats. The
seats mirror the nationwide voting, and it's slightly in favor
of the Republicans. There always has to be and this
is the trend with Trump. There always they always have
to be a victim. There always has to be a boogeyman.
There always has to be someone to blame. It always
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has to be somebody else's fault, always has to be something.
We're just this away, which is really really not even Trump.
The Republicans have been doing this. It is Trump, but
the Republicans have been doing this for years. Remember when
Obama was president. Just get us, the House will repeal Obamacare.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh, we couldn't do it. We need the Senate. Just
get us, the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Will repeal Obambacer they get the Senate, Oh, we just
need the presidency. Is Obamacare still the thing? It is
still the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And they got all of those things, and each time
they were asked to get those things, they didn't follow through,
and there was now the new thing is, well, there's
not sixty votes in the Senate. There's always somebody else's fault.
There's always somebody else to blame. They never look in
the mirror and say, you know what, it's us, Well,
we are chilled.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Their rush to do this is because of midterms.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sure, they can't win the votes. They can't win by
governing because they cater to special interest, They cater to
donors and lobbies. They catered to in this state, they
cater to government people like they did on property taxes
versus you. So they can't win this huge majority of
people in these you know, other districts. And so instead
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of just saying, how do we do that better? They go, wha,
We'll just change the maps, which means they'll never get
any better.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And then are they going to change them again after midterms?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well, sure they're going to have to because once they
alter these maps to make these districts more democratic, and
once they get Trump off their ass, because once he's
out of there, he don't care anymore, they'll go back
to the way they were because all they're going to
do is make these these swing these districts more swing
districts and then want to lose the districts.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's the crazy thing about all this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
In a couple of years, they'll go right back. That
gets anyway. I just want to point that.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Out that somebody did create a map.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
They got maybe one district that went for Trump but
was very close and probably would underperform and go Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But that's the best they could do.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And nationwide the US House almost mirrors identically the percentage
of votes Republicans got slightly in their favor in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey, it is ninety three WIBC. Okay,
So you made.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
An interesting point a few minutes ago, and I want
to delve into this because I just said, not even
dawned on me.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and that is the media.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The liberals are having an aneurysm over the fact that
some people might have to get off their ass and
go to work because these SNAP benefits.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Are expiring November first, as of the government shut down. Now,
isn't amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They're far more up in arms or the SNAP benefits
expiring than the military people.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Or the who aren't collecting getting getting paid. Right.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, but look, this is utterly ridiculous. So what is
the number of people on the SNAP benefits?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They say forty two million recipients across twenty two million
households are going to lose benefits starting November.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
First, forty two million people in a country of three
hundred and thirty five or forty million or whatever the
number is. Now, so I'm going to do a little
quick public school math here, if you'll indulge me. Right, Yeah,
So if you took forty two and you divide it
by three, let's say three thirty five, that's almost thirteen
percent of our population is on government assistance.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Look, I am not disputing that there are people who
need help in this country. I'm not disputing there are
people who have disabilities that prohibit them from working, or
that it causes you know, family members to have to
take care of them so they can work. I'm not
disputing that. But do we believed that that is thirteen
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percent of our population? Do we really believe that thirteen
percent of our population is so disabled that they can't
you know, take care of themselves or they don't have
family members who can you know, take care of themselves
in some capacity. Look, you know, we talk about our
sweet friend Michael, who we love, who is cerebral palsy,
who's our megafan.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We love you, Michael. We know you're listening today, listens
every day.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We love Michael. He made us these fabulous paintings. We
posted the picture of One of the things Michael can
still do and do very well, is he can paint
pictures with his hands, and he made us these incredible pictures.
It sits right on the It sits right on the
on my desk, right when I get into my office. Now,
it's great people like him, Absolutely, they have no ability
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to provide for themselves. They his parents have to help
take care of him, and I understand that, but there's
a let's face it, we would be totally not even
kidding ourselves if we said that there are not a
lot of people in this country who are are capable
of taking care of themselves at least in some capacity,
and are simply able to not do that because of
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the how we have exploded government benefits, especially during COVID
and afterwards.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So in May of this year, seven point eight billion
in benefits were distributed. The average household benefit was three
hundred and fifty one dollars and twenty eight cents. Now,
if you're how much, what was the number? Three hundred
and fifty one dollars twenty eight cents.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And that's monthly, yes, Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
A four person household with a fifteen hundred dollars net
income would receive about five hundred and fifty four dollars
a month.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So one of the things you mentioned, which is fascinating
because of course we saw this during COVID. People go
insane during times of crisis and they can't.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Supporting the toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
For an example, possibly by the way, I still have
you'll love this sweet amazing Terry Stacey. When the COVID
thing happens, she somehow got toilet paper. So the toilet
this will You've worked in many big offices. The toilet
paper they had here was not great, very thin. It's
the Econo toilet paper, and she somehow got a whole
bunch of it, and she was like, hey, here do
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you want this? And I was like, well, hey, in
case of emergency or whatever, cause you don't know how
long people are gonna be insane, like I'll keep it.
And I've kept that giant. It's not a role like
it's rolled up like you get at the store. It's
like the you know, like you see it a toilet
at a public restroom. I've kept that as a COVID
souvenir for five and a half going on six years
now as a reminder of how ridiculous COVID actually gotten
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so everywhere. You know, I still have it in my
house as a reminder of how ridiculous it is. But
you'd made a good point, which is during COVID for
the most part, I'd like, she was my girlfriend at
the time, but I did not let my wife for
the most part go to the store. And now occasionally
she had to. But it was like, people are insane,
people are nuts. I'm going to go deal with this,
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you know, so that you have to do. And you
made a good point. We may see some of the
again if these people, these these people who don't want
decerately don't want to work, aren't able to get these benefits,
because it's never the good people, the decent people, people
deserve it, who do these sorts of things. For the
most part, it's always the people who believe they're entitled
to something and they're mad it's going to be taken
away from them.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You may run the risk of seeing it again.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, I've seen more and more people on social media
saying that you know, I'm still going to go to
the grocery store. I'm still going to get my food
and supplies, and you're not going to stop me even
if I don't have my benefits anymore, meaning they're just
going to go in and take it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, they've been rewarded in a lot of places in
these major cities that we've seen where people just go
in and steal stuff, and the drug stores or whatever
just let them go.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Now. You made a good point.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Though.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Your daughter lives in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, and you've like sent your husband on a mission
out there to say, Jim, you have to go to
the store stock up for her because you don't want
her going to the store.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, I want to make sure that she's safe. Hopefully
the government will reopen back up up and this won't
be an issue. But I told him he's going to
be going there, and I said, your job while you
go there is to make sure that she is loaded
up on groceries, gas, and her prescriptions so that I
don't have to worry about it. Now. One thing that
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you have to consider about this message to him is
I was thinking of this because of this guy and
what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Bro is waiting in the dispensary parking lot asking people
if they have any spare roaches. I don't think y'all
understand the crash out levels is about to go through
the roof. No food stamps equals no to less weed money,
like you'll about to have people out here angry and sober.
That's a diabolical combination because the food money got to
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come out of some budget, and that's the first one
it usually comes from.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
All I'm saying is just be.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Nicer to people in these coming days, because that blunt
and those snacks may have been the only thing stopping
your co from put you first in line for meet
and greet with God Almighty.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So in Baltimore, marijuana is legal and you can smell
it everywhere. And when I saw that video, I thought, Okay,
if that's true and people are going to be a
little upset angry, as he put it, I want to
make sure my kid is safe.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, that's probably accurate, but it's also pathetic. I think
about that's where we're at as a society, and one
of the things that we've refused to address is that
our society collectively, like I'm not even talking from like
a moral stand but I'm talking just from a structural standpoint,
is so broken that you're going to see some of
these things on full display again. We should be having
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a conversation why is thirteen percent of our population on
some sort of government assistance? But we're not having that conversation.
The conversation isn't about, which is what a government shutdown
should be about.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It should be like, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
There's no reason for thirteen percent of the population to
be on government assistance.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Why are we fighting for that?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, they're They're like, oh, everybody's going back on once
we reopen the government, because all we did was fund
the bidens spending levels. And the Republicans. My dad and
I were talking about this yesterday when we were driving home,
and I said, you know, one of the things that
the Republicans are up against, which is fascinating, is the
greatest thing they have at their disposal they can't use
because they'd have to admit to their base what they are,
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which is, hey, Democrats, all we're doing is funding Joe
Biden's government. But they can't do it because if they
say it out loud, they have to admit that they've
lied to their base.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Again, which is that what they do all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And so They're really stuck between a rock and a
hard place because the greatest weapon at their disposal they
can't use. Our society, our government structurally is so broken.
We are cratering towards insolvency. This stuff is going to
start happening more and more frequently, and all we're talking
about doing is ways to keep it going or make
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it worse.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well, here's something to consider as you're talking about insolvency.
Snap cost one hundred three billion dollars last year. How
much one hundred point three billion dollars? Yeez, But that's
less than two percent of the federal budget.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, I mean you're running your interest is like approaching
a trillion dollars annually.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What we pay like out the window.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Think about when you pay your mortgage, right, And I
got the OCD, So this really bothers me that when
I pay my mortgage, I hate that such a large
portion of it goes to nothing, like it goes to
the bank right or to the lender. And that really
bothers me. I'm like, I'm just throwing this into the abyss, right.
It doesn't do anything to help me. It just helps
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some you know, large corporation that's managing my loan. And
that's essentially what we're doing because our spending has been
so irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Think about how many.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
People a trillion dollar could feed, how many military members
it could pay, and we're just lighting it on fire
because we won't get.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Our spending in this country under it's never going to stop.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, it's just another arrow to the dysfunction that is
happening in DC. Look at the government shutdown that's going on.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All right, what are we doing next? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, we could talk about Donald Trump saying that he
had an MRI oh at Walter Reed Medical Center while
he was there. That was kind of news to ever
Katny or or Brian Kelly got fired from LSU.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, we got to take a victory lap on that
as Notre dame fans, don't we?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think so? It is, Kennelly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Okay, okay, this.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We've got a lot of important stuff going on in
the world right now and here in Indiana. But this
next story has my undivided attention. I'm so enthralled by this.
Tell me all about it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
So we'll talk about Trump's MRI and Brian Kelly later
I mentioned this and you're like, oh wait what.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and then this is great. It's Kelly Casey, Jean
Rob that's Casey. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Single people are paying two hundred dollars each to hold
each other in dark rooms.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm sorry what you heard me?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Single people they're paying two hundred dollars to hold each
other in dark rooms. So they've got like these dimly
lit rooms with candles around and red cushion chairs arranged
in pairs, and people strangers who are single, they're supposed
to be single anyway, walk in and the whole point
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is to just go hold someone. And they're paying. It's
like a cover charge. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, iFeel like I've missed a step here.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's called the Fields and it started at Columbia University,
where's it's now got nationwide. It's the nationwide business franchise
events held in cities across the United States. And the
person who created it, Alfie Hoffman, says that they believe
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that modern dating is broken due to the macro level
forces like capitalism, technology, and pop culture. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm not disputing that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I still don't understand where the I must pay to
go into a dark room and hold a stranger comes in.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
There's two different levels by the way, in pricing, Oh,
you can pay level one. You can pay between ninety
and one hundred dollars. You don't take a survey and
you don't get personalized matching, or you can up it
to two hundred dollars and that includes a pre event
survey to match with participants based on emotional intelligence and
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spiritual atonement.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So it's like a dating gap but in person.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But it's not really dating. It's just to cuddle.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well, I don't get to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, you can if you want.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Why would I need to connect with you if I
can't talk to you?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Because you want to be held, You want some physical touch.
Attendees have shared feelings like I feel seen and I'm
more at ease in my body and I was warmly renewed.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wait, I feel like I missed a step here. Now
let me understand, because I'm not I'm not. I mean,
I guess I'm being judgy. But so you pay money,
you go to this dark room. Correct, you find a stranger.
Uh huh, you cuddle with them?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Correct, you got it?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
But why would you pay the money?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
What you like, because if you're do you know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How many drinks one hundred dollars could buy? I could
find someone you could.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Get more than a hug.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, that's what I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Saying, right, I mean, I mean I feel like we're
really you're really selling yourself short. If you're I mean
one hundred dollars, that's you can do a lot of
damage with one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay. The fields, which is what this place is called.
They say it's less about finding the one and more
about learning tools for deeper connection.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Aren't there like forum boards or the dating app? They
charge for these dating apps? Is it costs money to
be on them?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
They're usually free?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It is?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
It is something The popular ones are free.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
How do they make money? They sell ads? Or something like?
How does the dating app make money?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Can pay for a premium account, and I think you
get access to certain things like different filters like LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, it's like, but are there ads on these dating
sites like brought to you by sometimes Oca Cola or yeah,
occasionally you'll get They gotta make money somehow, product placement.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean, I was thinking some other things, but this
is a Family Program, and I didn't want to things
that were popping into my head. I didn't want to
throw out there. I'll tell you off the air once
we get to the commercial break, well, that would be
a good product placement. Uh, You're like, I can't wait
to get away from this guy because you've al almost
made it four years. I know you're closing in on
four years.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The season three finale of Indianapolis is a banger.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I just I don't understand why people are paying for this.
I don't I don't get what you're getting. I mean,
I mean, I'm not saying this would be okay, but
your name is supposed to be getting handsy with the person,
Like it's just you're supposed to like.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Just just go and be held.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah. Just it's like a Meloncamp song.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Everyone needs a hand to hold onto this Mellon Camp, right.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I wonder if there's stipulation, is any what you can
hold strong? Like it's just just a long embrace, a
long hug.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I don't know, I'm asking you. Have you never heard
of this, Kevin? What is the age range of these people?
Does it say is there a target?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Is there are I imagine it's gen z ish eighteen
thirty four people who aren't going out anymore to meet people.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
So, keV, would you be if we are there any
in Indianapolis?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Does it say no, not yet, keV. If they it'll come.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
If they have one here? In case you never willing
to pay the fee? Would you would you go to
this for us for the show?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I mean I'd probably stroll down there. Yeah, I
mean you can shift.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No, I mean you can't just stroll down. You have
to go in and be a part of the we want.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The whole experience. You probably have to sign some sort
of waiver that you can't record your experience.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
You can't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, you can talk about it, you
just can't videotape.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So, if they have one here, case would you it'd
be fifty we would probably be willing to do.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, we'd have to go at least forty five to
get the minimum, and oh it's ninety to get in ninety.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So we'd have to get forty five dollars. But you
have to stay the whole time.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You can't just like go in there and like be
like there are a bunch of broad ripple threes and
I'm out of here.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Well, how long of a session is this?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think it's however long you want you just go in.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
We want you to cuddle to with at least three
people that we'd have to come up with some sort
of like numbers, like a bare minimum that we would
want you to cuddle with. Right, Yeah, this sounds like
the creepiest thing ever.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
The creator said that her dream is for participants to
carry the practices into their everyday life. Huh, asking open questions,
offering longer hugs, and reflecting presents. You have to be
very friendzent.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
What do I did this in broad Ripple for years.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
From all the way and you only got charged with
like a five dollars cover.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, there's not even cocktails involved in this.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh there's I was going to ask, is there any like?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
No, I don't think gen Z doesn't really drink, that's true.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
There's just somebody's creating ways for gen Z to meet people.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
This is rotten. This is just rotten and horrible. Be unbelief.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Somebody saw a need and is trying to fill it.
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