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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So there's a press conference coming up at eleven today.
Ryan Meers, the Marion County prosecutor, Yeah, will be giving
I guess details on the latest with the Mark Sanchez
incident that happened over the weekend. It has resulted in
multiple charges against Mark Sanchez for NFL quarterback. I assume
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everybody knows this by now, but just just in case
you don't, Mark Sanchez, former NFL quarterback, played at usc
best known as the when he was the quarterback for
the Jets, The butt Fumble. It's a legendary sports blooper reel.
He was in town to announce the Colts Raiders game
on Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium and then this must
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what this was was Friday night? Correct, he was involved
in an incident that has resulted in multiple charges filed
against him for attacking an older gentleman in an alleyway.
And that's what we know right now. He's posted the
the bond.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Correct three hundred dollars cash bond, and.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He's got a court hearing tomorrow, and Mirrors is gonna
have a press conference today at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, there was a no contact order put in place,
and he was processed at the hospital, possibly avoiding a
booking photo. Right, Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The reasons why we don't see, well.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's gonna be fascinating because he's supposed now the photo
came out of the alleged victim, who looks horrible. Yes,
I cannot believe, given what those photos revealed, that there
was not some sort of felony committed there, but you
know that's for somebody else to decide. But supposedly, I
mean that Stance's got the worst of the exchange, or
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at least that was the rumor. So can't imagine how
he's gonna look. Obviously we'll get to learn more of
that here in just a little bit. But what a
crazy story casey it is.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, just the plot twist that happened. And you
woke up Saturday morning and you heard about a stabbing,
and I mean you've just conditioned to think, yeah, that
sounds about right, that happened in Indianapolis. And then when
you hear oh it was Mark Sanchez what and then
that he was the aggressor. It just took so many
turns and now it's being reported that Indianapolis attorney Jim
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Boyles has been contacted regarding Sanchez's defense. I don't know
if he's been higher oh okay, or if that he's
been contacted, but I wanted to play for you how
the NFL covered it. Because Sanchez was in town to
do the call for the Colts game. They brought in
Brady Quinn and this is how they started the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And when welcome you to Indianapolis, Cindiana, as the last
Vegas Raiders visits the cults, thank you for being with
us and for tuning in on Chris Myers along with
Brady Quinn who is stepping in for Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And obviously we all.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Want to send out our thoughts and prayers to Mark
and was involved in Friday's incident as.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We Okay, So they knew at that point of the
broadcast that Sanchez was being charged, and yet they mentioned
nothing about the victims. Well, sixty nine year old driver
in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Isn't that wild? I mean, they knew he was being charged.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The details were starting to come out, you know, the
probable cause, all that other stuff, and that, I mean,
what a complete miss by that network to by Fox
to do anything other than you know, hey, you know,
obviously he's not here. We're aware of the allegations. If true,
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completely unacceptable. We feel horrible for the alleged victim, and
we'll have we'll we'll have more to say as information
becomes available. You know, we respect the legal process whatever,
But to try to act like if indeed the you know,
the probable cause and the charges are I mean, how
could you possibly show any sympathy to Mark Sanchez if
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indeed those allegations are true.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, So it's been reported that is Sanchez had bleeding
from his chest, his abdomen, and his crotch region, and
he was reportedly hard to understand when he was being
taken to the hospital when all of this was happening.
But imagine all of this happens, you've got stab wounds,
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you go to the hospital, and directly from the hospital,
I mean, that's gotta hurt. You go directly from the
hospital to the Marion County jail.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, and look, all this is going to come out eventually.
But casey, I've been intoxicated in public. Maybe you have
two I've never.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Behaved like that, right, What was it that got him
so irate?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, that's what's going to be super interesting to find out.
Maybe we'll get some details on that because of today.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Truck was parked in the alley. You know, now was
going on in that alley well made him so mad.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Nigel and I were talking about this in the back.
I don't know if you know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Nigel's also been intoxicated in public too, so he's been
a couple of experts here. Like, the worst thing I
ever did intoxicated in public was trying to lift up
the arm bar at the parking garage because it wouldn't open,
and somebody told me that's not going to work, and
you get back in the car.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So top embarrassing yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean, it's a huge stretch to go from public
intox to now I'm attacking some guy in an alleyway
and was there some rumor he was doing wind sprints,
And like I just there's so many things that have
yet to come out to the public that are going
to be very interesting, and obviously in the most important
thing of all this is the condition of the alleged
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victim and making sure that that person recovers those photos
looked absolutely horrible, and then obviously I'm out of this.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Came this feud now.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Between Ryan Meers and the governor and the.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Governor, which is very interesting as well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Ryan mehersa the governor attempted to exploit senseless violence for
political gain without knowing all the facts.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So Ryan Meers is the Marion County prosecutor. It's interesting
because we had just talked about this last week about
how violence is totally out of control in the city.
It's an unacceptable level. And the immediate spin once they
found out Sanchez is the alleged aggressor from these people.
There are a group of people who are so invested
in trying to get you to think that Indianapolis is
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not a very dangerous city.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It is. And I'm not somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Who was afraid at one point to be in the
greater downtown area, used to run around here all the time,
would have no problem walking city blocks and doing things
at all times of the evening, and it was I
was not that person. But I'm also not a dumbass.
And just because I once liked to do something doesn't
mean that I can't see the change in the city
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and recognize that this is not the Indianapolis that it
was ten years ago. It is not a safe place
to be, especially not in the evening. And that's why
I come about ten thirty. If I were me, I'd
be leaving. What a great idea to still, you know,
aligned from animal House. But there are some people who
take such great offense when you state the obvious, which
is this is not a safe city. And a lot
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of people see can see the obvious, and so they
hopped on this and going see see, see, look how
safe in Indianapolis is? It was Sanchez was the aggressor.
Who cares who the aggressor was? I bet if you
asked the guy who's the alleged victim right now, if
he thinks Indianapolis is a safe city, he doesn't give
a damn who Mark Sanchez. He just cares that he
was allegedly attacked.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, there's these people that are saying, look, you're just
trying to make it political. No, it already is political.
I mean, think about the guy who had ninety nine
priors and then was out committing more crimes again. Or
how about the guy who was going so fast he
was going one hundred and forty miles per hour and
ended up killing three people, got a plea deal and
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only spent two years, So yeah, it's all political. It's
been political long before this Sanchez incident happened.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, what a bad move by Braun though, to delete
that tweet, because.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You are you look.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You look like you have something to hide or something
you're ashamed of when you delete a tweet, because then
that became the story.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're the governor. People are gonna see that you put
it out.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Just because you take it down, it doesn't disappear obviously
was screenshot share act. And then you give this prosecutor
the high ground to come out and go, well, this
guy's so ashamed of what he said, he took it
down as did is his crony beneath him back with
which you want to look up stupid in the dictionary.
You know, the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating your office,
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no matter what you want to say publicly, everybody knows
that's going on.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And you're gonna pick a fight with that guy.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
With the guy whose office is investigating, right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Who who could take down if he desires to, potentially
you and your entire entourage around you, And you're gonna
get lippy with him on social media. What the dumbass
of the Day award goes to whoever was running Micah
Beck with social media and decided to pick a fight
with Ryan Meres.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Great job, Einstein.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So Governor Mike Braun he put out a tweet he said,
if one deleted tweet finally gets Ryan Meers to start
paying attention to the violent crime epidemic in our capital city,
I will start deleting more tweets. Do you think the
governor actually tweeted that? Do you think the governor knows
how to quote tweet?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
No way, Somebody like.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, Governor, here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna press
the little square with the arrows ap here and then
write your comment there and then yeah, yep, you're gonna
hit that blue button right there. Yep post.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Here's what I would do if I were Braun. Now
on our Degenerates next Door Sports Betting podcast, we have
a segment called Let's Get Nuts, where I take some
incredible long shot and say, if you want to get
nuts and throw a few dollars away, why don't you
do it? On this If I were Braun, I would
I would say, Okay, Mears, you want to fight, Let's
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have a fight. And I would call Trump and I
would say, please send them National Guard to the city
of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, you want to get nuts, Let's get nuts.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You want to get lippy, Let's do the thing right now.
I just I find all of this fascinating. And what
should not be lost in all of this is Indianapolis
is still a dangerous city. We have in a mixture
of and I've said, I think everybody sort of shares
equal blame. The mayor's office, the prosecutor's office, and the
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judicial system need to start working together to find out
where the responsibility actually lies. It's probably an a collective
of everybody and for the betterment of the entire not
just the city of Indianapolis, but the region itself, figure
out a way to get the violence under control. And
whether Mark Sanchos was a victim or an aggressor or
whatever has zero bearing on the fact that violence in
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this city is out of control and still at unacceptable levels.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It is Kendilly Casey, It's ninety three, WYBC.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I don't know what good you know.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, so we always hear how great Indiana is for business,
but a friend of our show says that we may
not be as great as we are led to believe.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle put out
an opinion piece and it says, is Indiana's business climate
losing traction and in twenty twenty five, Indiana drop from
fifth to twelfth place in area development.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Now, Nick, you'll be with us on Thursday, so we'll
get into this with her a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But what's fascinating to me is so.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This article talks about these different mayors and they're talking
about encounters that they have and these developers they work with.
I don't think being a good state for economic development.
I don't like I don't think just simply giving something
to someone makes you a good state, because you're taking
it from someone else.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right, So it's not a flex really, and.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So much of what we've done in Indiana and the
IDC audit has proven this. Now you can't really get
any Republicans to comment on that. By the way, isn't
it wild that that Braun becomes Johnny tough guy on
Mark Sanchez, but on the iedc audit showing hundreds of
millions of dollars and what essentially is waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just really we're moving on from that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, we're going to put processes in place and nothing
to see here. We're done with this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
He's a real bad ass on on Ryan Meures and
the Mark Sanchez stuff. And by the way, he was
a wrong bad ass basically. I mean, you know, he's
right about the condition of the city, but let's face it,
he was trying to score points off the Mark Sanchez
thing and he looked he ended up playing the fool,
but not We're not any nothing, certainly in comparison to
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that on this IDC soup.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you think part of that is because Braun is saying,
you know, well that was before my time, so now
I know where we were. Now we're going to fix
it to move forward.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
No, I think it's because the money that has flowed
in and out touches so many of these politicians. It's
the same reason they won't touch Diego Morales's secretary of
state when you look at his donations, when you look
at who's funding his campaigns. A lot of that money
touches all these other high profile politicians. And one, they're
not going to choke off the money to themselves, which
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is what would happen if they came out against it,
and two they're probably very worried that if investigations were
done or things came out, how it would make them look.
So they're not gonna they're not going to wade into that.
And it's the same thing here. Look at where this
money was going, look at who was benefiting, and then
if you look at how connected those people are into
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the Indiana political scene, certainly the Indianapolis political scene. In
many cases, he wants this, he being Braun, wants this
to simply go away. He wants you to believe that
he's done something, when in reality it's mostly going to
be business as usual. And the answer here is so simple,
which is, if you just create a climate that's beneficial
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for everyone, then people will want to come here. But
they're not doing that. What they're creating, the politicians in
India and the Republicans are creating is a climate that
is not beneficial to you or your tax burden as
an individual has never been higher when you take all
the taxes and put them together. And what they do
then is they take that money and they give it
to their friends and these mega corporations and these big businesses,
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and then they throw up these press releases and these
parades for themselves, going look at.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
What a cool place we are to come to business.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, you just took money from somebody else and gave
it to another person, And of course they're going to
come here if you give them free stuff. That doesn't
make you noble or altruistic. It just makes you a thief.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Noblesville mayor, Chris Jensen, he said that the state
needs to unify its message and be bold, visionary and transformational.
And the Crawfordsville mayor said, we used to be seen
as rock stars. Now all we hear is, eh, we
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The e Well, he's right about a lack of a vision,
but you didn't have a vision under Holcombe either, other
than if you're my crony and my friend.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Right, But that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Doesn't benefit people. Look at these these communities and how
they've quote unquote grown. Noblesville I worked up there for
a couple of years in the mid two thousands, very charming,
nice place, quaint downtown, lots of farmland, lots of places
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you know you could go get lost in the woods
and hiking and all these experiences. And now look at Noblesville.
The Soviet block style apartments right next to the downtown.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The growth.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, how many emails have we gotten from people saying, Hey,
I'm a nobles, a lifer and I've had to leave.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
This is not the place they grew up.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And you're seeing that in all of these Westfield Fishers,
all of these all of these places, the growth has
not been good growth.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But if the stuff doesn't better the lives of the
people or or release the burden, the financial burden to
the people who've been there, what's the point of the growth?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And as it relates to the state.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Of Indiana, our quote unquote economic climate has been a
climate that put passes the burden back onto regular people
and it gives hundreds of millions of dollars or billions
of dollars over time to these mega corporations.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So, according to this article, Nikki Kelly is saying that
a lot of this resistance is coming from energy related
development and utility costs.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
By the way, one of the things that is fascinating
that came out of that iedc audit is how much
money these energy companies put, especially behind the foundation. Why
because the utilities or the big winners anytime these developments
are go in because they would supply the power to
these developments.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So yeah, they were giving a lot of money to
the ie DC. Hey did you win your bet over
the weekend?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You won my bet for me over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's right, Notre Dame one by the hook.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
By the hook still the win.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So it's interesting because when you place the bet, the
odds were twenty and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Notre Dame was a twenty and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Over and what did they win by twenty one?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So, just to reset this, the way our sports betting
podcast works Degenerates Next Store. We come out Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Tuesdays we do college, Thursdays we do the NFL. We
pick one game of the week that all the guys,
both Hammer myself and our pros have to bet on,
and then we pick the other game. So I decided
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to pick Notre Dame and I said, Casey, you're the
residential Notre Dame expert.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Twenty and a half's a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Although I don't think Boise State's very good, but I'll
leave it up to you. And I said, if they lose,
you're gonna look really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's on me.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They don't cover, but they won. They made they made it.
They covered it the final drive. I was sweating profusely
for you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Those odds changed on Saturday by the they went up.
So you're you're lucky you got that in just in
the nick of the time. What did you think about
the green uniforms? All green?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Didn't they used to be It used to be.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Like, oh no, they're in green, they're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, but didn't They only used to do it for
big games. Wasn't that a thing where for a long time,
you know, some huge game and they'd come out in
the all green uniforms. But they'd have done it quite
a bit over the past ten fifteen years. Right, it's
not that special thing anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's right, they're doing it more often. So College Game
Day is going to be broadcasting from Eugene, Oregon on
Saturday when they host number eight Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You know what's fascinating. I saw this this weekend. So
IU is undefeated. Obviously, they've had two good wins at
Iowa and then they smoked Illinois at home, so they're legitimate. Right,
they played all those directional schools to start the year.
But now they've got several legitimate wins. IU is undefeated.
I think logically any team would two losses out of
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the Big ten probably will get it, have a very
good chance of getting into that final twelve team playoff.
And yet Notre Dame with two losses is at twenty
to one to win the national championship. I you with
no losses is twenty seven to one. That was fascinating
to me. That absolutely my mind.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So Oregon Ducks, what they're number two? I you number eight?
This should be a good game.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I use a nine and a half point under dog, Casey.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and it's an away game, so yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm gonna let you pick that one for pick that
one for me.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I'm a homer, so I'm always gonna pick the
home run.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I don't care how you get there, just as long
as you get right. All right.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It is kennelln Casey. It's ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Take Casey.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
In the Navy is a better song than YMCA.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I agree. And you would think that Donald Trump would
use that song when he's celebrating the Navy's two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary instead of YMCA by the village people,
but he chose with me. He went with YMCA. No, really,
yes he did. So.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The village people loved Trump, right. They played it a
bunch of his events or whatever rallies, so he could
probably get whatever song he wanted. It's not like, oh,
this is the only one I could get. He probably
could have gone to them and said, but don't the
Navy people aren't. If we have any members of the
US Navy and are listening, you can let me know
at Rob m Kendall or Rob ATWEC dot com, or
at Casey Daniels three one seven, or you know how
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to get all of us. They're just bitch at us
in the YouTube chat like everybody else does. Don't the
Navy people have a strong dislike for in the Navy?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I thought, I thought, do they? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, they thought it was kind of insulting that they
were making lighthearted of the work the people in the
Navy did.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But I don't know. Maybe I imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That that sounds legit. But Donald Trump he attended the
Navy's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebration. It was in Norfolk, Virginia,
and there was about ten thousand sailors there, all dressed
in their dress white uniforms, looking crisp and good. Donald
Trump called the event a rally, like they're they're not
there for you, dude, They're there for the Navy. But
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at the end they of course did the YMCA from
the village people. They had a Navy fighter jet that
flew over, and Malania Trump was there, and all of
this took place during the federal shutdown. Now what are
we on day day six?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's so disinteresting? Five day six, it's so disinteresting. We
were talking about this during the break. They're not even
making this one fun. There's not some big fight going on.
It's not interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's just like you're not entertained by the memes.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I get nothing at it. I could care I couldn't
care less about this. And by the way, I love
in the song in the Navy, the main guy, you know,
he's the primary singer. There's a line in the Navy
where he starts doing some it's basically like a monologue,
and he goes, but I'm afraid of water. Hey look,
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I get seasick even watching it on TV. Maybe that's
why those guys it anyway, I just I don't care,
like I know how it's going to end. I know
how the shutdown is going to end. Where they are
going to I mean, we're fighting about Biden level spending.
Are we at Biden level spending? Or are we going
above Biden level spending? I got to do with somebody
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on social media over the weekend. It was like, you
can't even give them credit for holding the line, holding
the line on what what they're doing? A victory lap
overlook at us. We kept the Biden spending priorities in
Biden spending levels. We're doing a great job. What am
I supposed to give them credit for? It's bad or worse?
The Republican spending bill is awful. The Democrats want to
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make it worse. I'm supposed to be invested in whether
I get bad or worse.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Trump's approval rating this is according to CBS News has
it's sitting at forty two percent now, down from forty
four percent last month.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And what is it? What's the number?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Forty two percent? This is a CBS News poll.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And what was it the month before?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Forty four?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, so this is right in line with what we've
been saying which is the general. You know, polling is
a snapshot of a moment in time, but when you
start seeing numerous polls from different entities showing the same thing,
you kind of get a flip book of the picture.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And that's about right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Donald Trump is in the low forties in terms of
his approval rating running the country.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
The people that took this poll say his policies are
increasing prices and costing jobs, and the majority say the
Trump administration is not focused enough on lowering prices and
too focused on tariffs. One thing that Donald Trump did
say when he was in Norfolk, Virginia was that they
were going to give pay raises to all of the
US military members.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The US Navy always stands for America. As your commander
in chief, I will always stand for you. I promise
you that you know that that's why you voted for
me and numbers that nobody's ever seen before, and I
want you to know that despite the current Democrat induced shutdown,
we will get our service members every list petty, don't
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worry about it. Don't worry about it. You'll worry about.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Do not worry about it. It's all coming. It's coming.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And even more because I'm supporting the across the board
pay races for every sailor and service member the United
States are enforce.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I like the sound of that, but we have to
I love the like.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Do you know how many times in my life owning
a business, I've been told by somebody, don't worry, it's coming.
Do you know the checks in the mail the people
who rarely came, or the people said, don't worry, it's coming.
And where is all this money coming from, mister president?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Where is it coming?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That is the quest.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I'm not saying that there our service members aren't awesome.
I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I simply will
ask the question again. If we have no money and
every dollar basically is printed at this point, where is
the money coming from? And so what you're saying, mister President,
is I'm willing to print a bunch of money and
make living more expensive for everybody else so that these
people can have a pay raise. We have to start
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being honest about what these politicians are saying, because they
won't be honest about what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Healthcare was the most frequently cited issue on this CBS poll.
When asked about the shutdown, and Trump still pulling stronger
when it comes to immigration and deportation. However, his ratings
on economic issues continue to erode. You didn't, Kathy, It's
all going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's all in the mail, Tim I told you about Ted.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's on the way Ted Taddy died.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It was very sad.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Donald Trump announced Trump RX last week. That's a government
run website with Pfizer as its first partner.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Okay, so basically what this is is Donald Trump is
trying to enforce what he's calling a favored Nation's clause. Basically,
he is trying to say, if you're going to sell
drugs in this country, you have to sell them at
whatever point they're your lowest, your lowest price point is
to any country in the world. If you don't do this,
we're not gonna let you sell drugs in this country. Now,
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what the drug companies are going to push back on
is they're going to say, Okay, first of all, they're
gonna say, well, if you do that, then because we
help a lot of quote unquote poor countries, we subsidize
their purchases. I mean we I'm saying we US consumers
subsidize they're doing this across the globe. But also they're
gonna say if we can't make any money and then
we're not going to do this anymore and we'll just
fold up shop. Now probably an idle threat. I do
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wonder about the enforcement of this through an executive.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Order and how that's going to work.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But one of the things that they're saying they're going
to do is beginning next year, the federal government is
gonna work with Pfizer, who's one of the largest drug manufacturer,
maybe the largest drug manufacturer in the world, through this
Trump rx dot gov website, or you'll be able to
buy prescriptions directly from Pfizer and bypass the pharmacy basically.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So so it sounds to me like it's going to
be similar to what Mark Cuban does where you can
go directly to the website.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I wonder what the stranglehold that the drug companies
have on all of these politicians. I mean, there's a
catch here, right, and they're not just like, Okay, you
caught us. Yeah, we were scheving and scamming everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It'll be done.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know, nine cents now for your prescription. Thanks, you
got us. We're done here. There's got to be a
catch to this, because they're not just folding up their tent.
They're not going to stop making money. And there's a
reason they give all this money to all these politicians.
So we're going to see what the catch is. I
can't just imagine that now everything becomes essentially, you know,
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pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Costco has announced they're not going to be selling ozampic
and we Go vi at a discounted price.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Wait, don't you need a prescription for that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, they have pharmacies there. Oh, they do have at Costco. Okay, yeah,
but you can now get it without insurance.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh you used because of its affordability.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you used to be able to get I mean,
you didn't have to have insurance to have it, but
it was so expensive that it was cost prohibited for
people to get it.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But if you want to get the discounted price of
Ozepic and we Go via Costco, you still have to
have the Costco membership, so you got to pay that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Whatever it is, sixty bucks a year or whatever. Uh
So that doesn't I mean, I'm not on that, so
that doesn't really help me, but a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm not about it. Aren't you a little concerned about
the long term effects?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well, that's what I'm saying. That would be the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I look, I know some people that's helped immensely
and they're very excited with the results, and I think
that's wonderful. I am a little concerned about knowing what
this is going to do to somebody.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
In five years, ten years, ten years, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah. Forty two of adults in the United States are
classified as obese, twenty percent of children and teens.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You know, there is a point with that though, that
the obesity standards are a little out of whack, Like
there's a technical term for obese, and there's a lot
of people who you would look at and say that
person doesn't even look fat, but by the technical standard,
they are deemed obese.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Basically everyone not named Brad Pitter, Jennifer and Aniston is
obese in this country.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Hey, Hammer's going to join us next.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, he'll be. He's got day off, Butty, we're gonna
call him. I want to get his hot take on
the whole Sanchez thing, because he was one of the
first people to put out that was that this was
going down, and he was exactly right on what was happening.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So we'll get his take on that next.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Jason Hammer, one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show,
joins us now on the WIBC Hotline. He was among
the first to report the news on the Mark Sanchez altercation.
By the way, there's press conference coming up today at
eleven are supposed to be featuring the Marion County Prosecutor
Ryan Meres.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Jason Hammer joins us now.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Hammer, Hello, Hello, and yeah, what a wild news day.
Because I know how it works when you guys leave
the office on Friday, you have to record what's called
a promo, write a little something to talk about your
show coming up on Monday, but you have no idea
what's going to happen over the weekend. So sometimes they're
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just generally vague. But man, what a Monday we've all
walked into here.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now, you were among the first to get it right,
you and JMV that this was going down. I know
you're not going to reveal your sources were like, how
does this sort of thing land in your lap?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
So I've got a buddy that I trust very much
on the inside and sent me a message early early
Saturday that said, hey, this was Mark Sanchez that was
involved in the stabbing last night. And at the time,
we didn't know the condition of Mark, and source was like,
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I don't know the condition on him. I'm here and
it's pretty bad, but I'm also hearing he was the aggressor.
It's like, okay, So around the same time, you know,
JMV and I start talking because he's got his people,
I've got my people, and we're hearing the exact same story.
So our story is corroborated. And it was around that
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time that a producer of TMZ puts something out so like, well,
all right, it's out there now. So I put something
on our Twitter and our social media saying this rumor
has been out there for a while. Still no comment
from the IMPD, but will follow this story as it develops.
And throughout the next couple of hours, a lot of
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people got that story wrong. Adam Schefter a ESPN goes
out there and says Mark Sanchez was stabbed in an
attempted robbery, which wasn't even close to being the truth.
So yeah, my source again We're very fortunate to have
some ties to law enforcement in this community. Was spot
on with the information, but it was also important that
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we got the story right.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Jason Hammer, or one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show,
joins us today via phone on the WIBC hotline. Okay,
so the delete tweet is a bad look for the
governor and lieutenant governor because you look like cowardly got
something to hide. You give Mirror sort of a freebee
to take a shot at you. But the overarching theme
of all this is Indianapolis is a super violent place.
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Whether Mark Sanchez was the aggressor or the victim, Indianapolis
is very, very, very violent, and between the mayor and
the prosecutor and the judicial system, it just doesn't seem
like anybody's taking the lead on changing it.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
So it's time to play a little round of two
things can be true at the same time, Rob and
I'll put this out over the weekend. Yeah, I think
Indianapolis should be off the hook for the Mark Sanchez stabbing.
Right to me, this is a case of fafo. Mark
Sanchez wink fooled around and found out. But at the
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same time, Indianapolis also still has a higher homicide rate
per capita than Chicago by ten percent according to the
recent numbers provided by the FOP, So two things can
be true here. Yeah, I don't blame Ndy for what
happened to Mark Sanchez. That sounds like it was a
Mark Sanchez situation. But let's not sit around here and
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act like this is Pleasantville either, when you've got a
higher homicide rate than Chicago. I wish people would get
asked fired up about a delete tweet. I'm sorry as
about our crime rate as they do about a delete tweet.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
What do you think people are going to remember at
the end of the day. In regards to Mark Sanchez,
what's going to.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Be fumble butt fumble back other than butt fumble, Cacy,
it's always going to be butt fumble. Once we get
through this story five years from now, it's always going
to be butt fumble. But in regards to locally right
local story, the local news cycle here Mark, we're going
to find out a lot in the next couple days.
I'm hearing video. I want to find out why he
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was in the alley, what condition he was in like
before we make any judgments on what we're going to
remember about Mark Sanchez. Let that stuff come out, because
there's a lot of rumors about stuff going on. If
that stuff comes out, you know me, I'm a gambler.
I'm betting it's not going to look good for the
former USC quarterback. Then I'm just telling you that right now.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Twenty years yes, real quick, real quick.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Go back to two things can be true. At the
same time, Braun and beckwith yet don't delete tweets. We've
had this conversation. I've told their staff this, nobody likes
delete tweet guide, nobody stop deleting tweets, put out a
correction later on and just own it. It'll be so
much better for you. But at the same time, again,
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why are people so concerned about a delete tweet and
not the crime rate? That's my issue. I live here.
I live in Indianapolis. I'm basically a wifer. Grew up
on the East Side with my grandparents and my mom
and my dad. I played baseball at East Side on
brook Side. I played football at Christian Park. Moved to
Beach Gretel when I was about ten. So I've always
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been around Marion County, give or take a few ball
state years. I'm a lifer here I live in Indy now.
I wish people gave a damn about the way the
crime situation is right now, The way they do about
a delete tweet. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, I know we got to go here, but who
would have thought twenty years ago? Hammer, if you'd have
said Mark Sanchez, that would would have more arrests than
Jason Hammer and Rob Kendall combined.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Right right, you want to get nuts, that's all left.
Get nut.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You're off today, so we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Appreciate you. Thanks Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey. It's ninety
three WYBC.
Okay, So there's a press conference coming up at eleven today.
Ryan Meers, the Marion County prosecutor, Yeah, will be giving
I guess details on the latest with the Mark Sanchez
incident that happened over the weekend. It has resulted in
multiple charges against Mark Sanchez for NFL quarterback. I assume
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everybody knows this by now, but just just in case
you don't, Mark Sanchez, former NFL quarterback, played at usc
best known as the when he was the quarterback for
the Jets, The butt Fumble. It's a legendary sports blooper reel.
He was in town to announce the Colts Raiders game
on Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium and then this must
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what this was was Friday night? Correct, he was involved
in an incident that has resulted in multiple charges filed
against him for attacking an older gentleman in an alleyway.
And that's what we know right now. He's posted the
the bond.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Correct three hundred dollars cash bond, and.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He's got a court hearing tomorrow, and Mirrors is gonna
have a press conference today at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, there was a no contact order put in place,
and he was processed at the hospital, possibly avoiding a
booking photo. Right, Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The reasons why we don't see, well.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's gonna be fascinating because he's supposed now the photo
came out of the alleged victim, who looks horrible. Yes,
I cannot believe, given what those photos revealed, that there
was not some sort of felony committed there, but you
know that's for somebody else to decide. But supposedly, I
mean that Stance's got the worst of the exchange, or
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at least that was the rumor. So can't imagine how
he's gonna look. Obviously we'll get to learn more of
that here in just a little bit. But what a
crazy story casey it is.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, just the plot twist that happened. And you
woke up Saturday morning and you heard about a stabbing,
and I mean you've just conditioned to think, yeah, that
sounds about right, that happened in Indianapolis. And then when
you hear oh it was Mark Sanchez what and then
that he was the aggressor. It just took so many
turns and now it's being reported that Indianapolis attorney Jim
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Boyles has been contacted regarding Sanchez's defense. I don't know
if he's been higher oh okay, or if that he's
been contacted, but I wanted to play for you how
the NFL covered it. Because Sanchez was in town to
do the call for the Colts game. They brought in
Brady Quinn and this is how they started the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And when welcome you to Indianapolis, Cindiana, as the last
Vegas Raiders visits the cults, thank you for being with
us and for tuning in on Chris Myers along with
Brady Quinn who is stepping in for Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And obviously we all.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Want to send out our thoughts and prayers to Mark
and was involved in Friday's incident as.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We Okay, So they knew at that point of the
broadcast that Sanchez was being charged, and yet they mentioned
nothing about the victims. Well, sixty nine year old driver
in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Isn't that wild? I mean, they knew he was being charged.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The details were starting to come out, you know, the
probable cause, all that other stuff, and that, I mean,
what a complete miss by that network to by Fox
to do anything other than you know, hey, you know,
obviously he's not here. We're aware of the allegations. If true,
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completely unacceptable. We feel horrible for the alleged victim, and
we'll have we'll we'll have more to say as information
becomes available. You know, we respect the legal process whatever,
But to try to act like if indeed the you know,
the probable cause and the charges are I mean, how
could you possibly show any sympathy to Mark Sanchez if
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indeed those allegations are true.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, So it's been reported that is Sanchez had bleeding
from his chest, his abdomen, and his crotch region, and
he was reportedly hard to understand when he was being
taken to the hospital when all of this was happening.
But imagine all of this happens, you've got stab wounds,
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you go to the hospital, and directly from the hospital,
I mean, that's gotta hurt. You go directly from the
hospital to the Marion County jail.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, and look, all this is going to come out eventually.
But casey, I've been intoxicated in public. Maybe you have
two I've never.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Behaved like that, right, What was it that got him
so irate?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, that's what's going to be super interesting to find out.
Maybe we'll get some details on that because of today.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Truck was parked in the alley. You know, now was
going on in that alley well made him so mad.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Nigel and I were talking about this in the back.
I don't know if you know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Nigel's also been intoxicated in public too, so he's been
a couple of experts here. Like, the worst thing I
ever did intoxicated in public was trying to lift up
the arm bar at the parking garage because it wouldn't open,
and somebody told me that's not going to work, and
you get back in the car.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So top embarrassing yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean, it's a huge stretch to go from public
intox to now I'm attacking some guy in an alleyway
and was there some rumor he was doing wind sprints,
And like I just there's so many things that have
yet to come out to the public that are going
to be very interesting, and obviously in the most important
thing of all this is the condition of the alleged
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victim and making sure that that person recovers those photos
looked absolutely horrible, and then obviously I'm out of this.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Came this feud now.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Between Ryan Meers and the governor and the.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Governor, which is very interesting as well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Ryan mehersa the governor attempted to exploit senseless violence for
political gain without knowing all the facts.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So Ryan Meers is the Marion County prosecutor. It's interesting
because we had just talked about this last week about
how violence is totally out of control in the city.
It's an unacceptable level. And the immediate spin once they
found out Sanchez is the alleged aggressor from these people.
There are a group of people who are so invested
in trying to get you to think that Indianapolis is
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not a very dangerous city.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It is. And I'm not somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Who was afraid at one point to be in the
greater downtown area, used to run around here all the time,
would have no problem walking city blocks and doing things
at all times of the evening, and it was I
was not that person. But I'm also not a dumbass.
And just because I once liked to do something doesn't
mean that I can't see the change in the city
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and recognize that this is not the Indianapolis that it
was ten years ago. It is not a safe place
to be, especially not in the evening. And that's why
I come about ten thirty. If I were me, I'd
be leaving. What a great idea to still, you know,
aligned from animal House. But there are some people who
take such great offense when you state the obvious, which
is this is not a safe city. And a lot
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of people see can see the obvious, and so they
hopped on this and going see see, see, look how
safe in Indianapolis is? It was Sanchez was the aggressor.
Who cares who the aggressor was? I bet if you
asked the guy who's the alleged victim right now, if
he thinks Indianapolis is a safe city, he doesn't give
a damn who Mark Sanchez. He just cares that he
was allegedly attacked.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, there's these people that are saying, look, you're just
trying to make it political. No, it already is political.
I mean, think about the guy who had ninety nine
priors and then was out committing more crimes again. Or
how about the guy who was going so fast he
was going one hundred and forty miles per hour and
ended up killing three people, got a plea deal and
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only spent two years, So yeah, it's all political. It's
been political long before this Sanchez incident happened.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, what a bad move by Braun though, to delete
that tweet, because.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You are you look.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You look like you have something to hide or something
you're ashamed of when you delete a tweet, because then
that became the story.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're the governor. People are gonna see that you put
it out.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Just because you take it down, it doesn't disappear obviously
was screenshot share act. And then you give this prosecutor
the high ground to come out and go, well, this
guy's so ashamed of what he said, he took it
down as did is his crony beneath him back with
which you want to look up stupid in the dictionary.
You know, the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating your office,
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no matter what you want to say publicly, everybody knows
that's going on.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And you're gonna pick a fight with that guy.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
With the guy whose office is investigating, right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Who who could take down if he desires to, potentially
you and your entire entourage around you, And you're gonna
get lippy with him on social media. What the dumbass
of the Day award goes to whoever was running Micah
Beck with social media and decided to pick a fight
with Ryan Meres.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Great job, Einstein.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So Governor Mike Braun he put out a tweet he said,
if one deleted tweet finally gets Ryan Meers to start
paying attention to the violent crime epidemic in our capital city,
I will start deleting more tweets. Do you think the
governor actually tweeted that? Do you think the governor knows
how to quote tweet?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
No way, Somebody like.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, Governor, here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna press
the little square with the arrows ap here and then
write your comment there and then yeah, yep, you're gonna
hit that blue button right there. Yep post.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Here's what I would do if I were Braun. Now
on our Degenerates next Door Sports Betting podcast, we have
a segment called Let's Get Nuts, where I take some
incredible long shot and say, if you want to get
nuts and throw a few dollars away, why don't you
do it? On this If I were Braun, I would
I would say, Okay, Mears, you want to fight, Let's
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have a fight. And I would call Trump and I
would say, please send them National Guard to the city
of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, you want to get nuts, Let's get nuts.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You want to get lippy, Let's do the thing right now.
I just I find all of this fascinating. And what
should not be lost in all of this is Indianapolis
is still a dangerous city. We have in a mixture
of and I've said, I think everybody sort of shares
equal blame. The mayor's office, the prosecutor's office, and the
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judicial system need to start working together to find out
where the responsibility actually lies. It's probably an a collective
of everybody and for the betterment of the entire not
just the city of Indianapolis, but the region itself, figure
out a way to get the violence under control. And
whether Mark Sanchos was a victim or an aggressor or
whatever has zero bearing on the fact that violence in
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this city is out of control and still at unacceptable levels.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It is Kendilly Casey, It's ninety three, WYBC.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I don't know what good you know.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, so we always hear how great Indiana is for business,
but a friend of our show says that we may
not be as great as we are led to believe.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle put out
an opinion piece and it says, is Indiana's business climate
losing traction and in twenty twenty five, Indiana drop from
fifth to twelfth place in area development.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Now, Nick, you'll be with us on Thursday, so we'll
get into this with her a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But what's fascinating to me is so.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This article talks about these different mayors and they're talking
about encounters that they have and these developers they work with.
I don't think being a good state for economic development.
I don't like I don't think just simply giving something
to someone makes you a good state, because you're taking
it from someone else.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right, So it's not a flex really, and.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So much of what we've done in Indiana and the
IDC audit has proven this. Now you can't really get
any Republicans to comment on that. By the way, isn't
it wild that that Braun becomes Johnny tough guy on
Mark Sanchez, but on the iedc audit showing hundreds of
millions of dollars and what essentially is waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just really we're moving on from that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, we're going to put processes in place and nothing
to see here. We're done with this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
He's a real bad ass on on Ryan Meures and
the Mark Sanchez stuff. And by the way, he was
a wrong bad ass basically. I mean, you know, he's
right about the condition of the city, but let's face it,
he was trying to score points off the Mark Sanchez
thing and he looked he ended up playing the fool,
but not We're not any nothing, certainly in comparison to
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that on this IDC soup.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you think part of that is because Braun is saying,
you know, well that was before my time, so now
I know where we were. Now we're going to fix
it to move forward.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
No, I think it's because the money that has flowed
in and out touches so many of these politicians. It's
the same reason they won't touch Diego Morales's secretary of
state when you look at his donations, when you look
at who's funding his campaigns. A lot of that money
touches all these other high profile politicians. And one, they're
not going to choke off the money to themselves, which
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is what would happen if they came out against it,
and two they're probably very worried that if investigations were
done or things came out, how it would make them look.
So they're not gonna they're not going to wade into that.
And it's the same thing here. Look at where this
money was going, look at who was benefiting, and then
if you look at how connected those people are into
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the Indiana political scene, certainly the Indianapolis political scene. In
many cases, he wants this, he being Braun, wants this
to simply go away. He wants you to believe that
he's done something, when in reality it's mostly going to
be business as usual. And the answer here is so simple,
which is, if you just create a climate that's beneficial
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for everyone, then people will want to come here. But
they're not doing that. What they're creating, the politicians in
India and the Republicans are creating is a climate that
is not beneficial to you or your tax burden as
an individual has never been higher when you take all
the taxes and put them together. And what they do
then is they take that money and they give it
to their friends and these mega corporations and these big businesses,
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and then they throw up these press releases and these
parades for themselves, going look at.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
What a cool place we are to come to business.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, you just took money from somebody else and gave
it to another person, And of course they're going to
come here if you give them free stuff. That doesn't
make you noble or altruistic. It just makes you a thief.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The Noblesville mayor, Chris Jensen, he said that the state
needs to unify its message and be bold, visionary and transformational.
And the Crawfordsville mayor said, we used to be seen
as rock stars. Now all we hear is, eh, we
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The e Well, he's right about a lack of a vision,
but you didn't have a vision under Holcombe either, other
than if you're my crony and my friend.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Right, But that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Doesn't benefit people. Look at these these communities and how
they've quote unquote grown. Noblesville I worked up there for
a couple of years in the mid two thousands, very charming,
nice place, quaint downtown, lots of farmland, lots of places
(15:32):
you know you could go get lost in the woods
and hiking and all these experiences. And now look at Noblesville.
The Soviet block style apartments right next to the downtown.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The growth.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, how many emails have we gotten from people saying, Hey,
I'm a nobles, a lifer and I've had to leave.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
This is not the place they grew up.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And you're seeing that in all of these Westfield Fishers,
all of these all of these places, the growth has
not been good growth.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But if the stuff doesn't better the lives of the
people or or release the burden, the financial burden to
the people who've been there, what's the point of the growth?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And as it relates to the state.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Of Indiana, our quote unquote economic climate has been a
climate that put passes the burden back onto regular people
and it gives hundreds of millions of dollars or billions
of dollars over time to these mega corporations.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So, according to this article, Nikki Kelly is saying that
a lot of this resistance is coming from energy related
development and utility costs.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
By the way, one of the things that is fascinating
that came out of that iedc audit is how much
money these energy companies put, especially behind the foundation. Why
because the utilities or the big winners anytime these developments
are go in because they would supply the power to
these developments.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So yeah, they were giving a lot of money to
the ie DC. Hey did you win your bet over
the weekend?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You won my bet for me over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's right, Notre Dame one by the hook.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
By the hook still the win.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So it's interesting because when you place the bet, the
odds were twenty and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Notre Dame was a twenty and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Over and what did they win by twenty one?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So, just to reset this, the way our sports betting
podcast works Degenerates Next Store. We come out Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Tuesdays we do college, Thursdays we do the NFL. We
pick one game of the week that all the guys,
both Hammer myself and our pros have to bet on,
and then we pick the other game. So I decided
(17:38):
to pick Notre Dame and I said, Casey, you're the
residential Notre Dame expert.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Twenty and a half's a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Although I don't think Boise State's very good, but I'll
leave it up to you. And I said, if they lose,
you're gonna look really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's on me.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They don't cover, but they won. They made they made it.
They covered it the final drive. I was sweating profusely
for you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Those odds changed on Saturday by the they went up.
So you're you're lucky you got that in just in
the nick of the time. What did you think about
the green uniforms? All green?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Didn't they used to be It used to be.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Like, oh no, they're in green, they're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, but didn't They only used to do it for
big games. Wasn't that a thing where for a long time,
you know, some huge game and they'd come out in
the all green uniforms. But they'd have done it quite
a bit over the past ten fifteen years. Right, it's
not that special thing anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's right, they're doing it more often. So College Game
Day is going to be broadcasting from Eugene, Oregon on
Saturday when they host number eight Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You know what's fascinating. I saw this this weekend. So
IU is undefeated. Obviously, they've had two good wins at
Iowa and then they smoked Illinois at home, so they're legitimate. Right,
they played all those directional schools to start the year.
But now they've got several legitimate wins. IU is undefeated.
I think logically any team would two losses out of
(19:00):
the Big ten probably will get it, have a very
good chance of getting into that final twelve team playoff.
And yet Notre Dame with two losses is at twenty
to one to win the national championship. I you with
no losses is twenty seven to one. That was fascinating
to me. That absolutely my mind.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So Oregon Ducks, what they're number two? I you number eight?
This should be a good game.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I use a nine and a half point under dog, Casey.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and it's an away game, so yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm gonna let you pick that one for pick that
one for me.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, I'm a homer, so I'm always gonna pick the
home run.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I don't care how you get there, just as long
as you get right. All right.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It is kennelln Casey. It's ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Take Casey.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
In the Navy is a better song than YMCA.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I agree. And you would think that Donald Trump would
use that song when he's celebrating the Navy's two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary instead of YMCA by the village people,
but he chose with me. He went with YMCA. No, really,
yes he did. So.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The village people loved Trump, right. They played it a
bunch of his events or whatever rallies, so he could
probably get whatever song he wanted. It's not like, oh,
this is the only one I could get. He probably
could have gone to them and said, but don't the
Navy people aren't. If we have any members of the
US Navy and are listening, you can let me know
at Rob m Kendall or Rob ATWEC dot com, or
at Casey Daniels three one seven, or you know how
(20:36):
to get all of us. They're just bitch at us
in the YouTube chat like everybody else does. Don't the
Navy people have a strong dislike for in the Navy?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I thought, I thought, do they? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, they thought it was kind of insulting that they
were making lighthearted of the work the people in the
Navy did.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But I don't know. Maybe I imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That that sounds legit. But Donald Trump he attended the
Navy's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebration. It was in Norfolk, Virginia,
and there was about ten thousand sailors there, all dressed
in their dress white uniforms, looking crisp and good. Donald
Trump called the event a rally, like they're they're not
there for you, dude, They're there for the Navy. But
(21:15):
at the end they of course did the YMCA from
the village people. They had a Navy fighter jet that
flew over, and Malania Trump was there, and all of
this took place during the federal shutdown. Now what are
we on day day six?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's so disinteresting? Five day six, it's so disinteresting. We
were talking about this during the break. They're not even
making this one fun. There's not some big fight going on.
It's not interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's just like you're not entertained by the memes.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I get nothing at it. I could care I couldn't
care less about this. And by the way, I love
in the song in the Navy, the main guy, you know,
he's the primary singer. There's a line in the Navy
where he starts doing some it's basically like a monologue,
and he goes, but I'm afraid of water. Hey look,
(22:08):
I get seasick even watching it on TV. Maybe that's
why those guys it anyway, I just I don't care,
like I know how it's going to end. I know
how the shutdown is going to end. Where they are
going to I mean, we're fighting about Biden level spending.
Are we at Biden level spending? Or are we going
above Biden level spending? I got to do with somebody
(22:28):
on social media over the weekend. It was like, you
can't even give them credit for holding the line, holding
the line on what what they're doing? A victory lap
overlook at us. We kept the Biden spending priorities in
Biden spending levels. We're doing a great job. What am
I supposed to give them credit for? It's bad or worse?
The Republican spending bill is awful. The Democrats want to
(22:49):
make it worse. I'm supposed to be invested in whether
I get bad or worse.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Trump's approval rating this is according to CBS News has
it's sitting at forty two percent now, down from forty
four percent last month.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And what is it? What's the number?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Forty two percent? This is a CBS News poll.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And what was it the month before?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Forty four?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, so this is right in line with what we've
been saying which is the general. You know, polling is
a snapshot of a moment in time, but when you
start seeing numerous polls from different entities showing the same thing,
you kind of get a flip book of the picture.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And that's about right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Donald Trump is in the low forties in terms of
his approval rating running the country.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
The people that took this poll say his policies are
increasing prices and costing jobs, and the majority say the
Trump administration is not focused enough on lowering prices and
too focused on tariffs. One thing that Donald Trump did
say when he was in Norfolk, Virginia was that they
were going to give pay raises to all of the
US military members.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The US Navy always stands for America. As your commander
in chief, I will always stand for you. I promise
you that you know that that's why you voted for
me and numbers that nobody's ever seen before, and I
want you to know that despite the current Democrat induced shutdown,
we will get our service members every list petty, don't
(24:11):
worry about it. Don't worry about it. You'll worry about.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Do not worry about it. It's all coming. It's coming.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And even more because I'm supporting the across the board
pay races for every sailor and service member the United
States are enforce.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I like the sound of that, but we have to
I love the like.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Do you know how many times in my life owning
a business, I've been told by somebody, don't worry, it's coming.
Do you know the checks in the mail the people
who rarely came, or the people said, don't worry, it's coming.
And where is all this money coming from, mister president?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Where is it coming?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That is the quest.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I'm not saying that there our service members aren't awesome.
I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I simply will
ask the question again. If we have no money and
every dollar basically is printed at this point, where is
the money coming from? And so what you're saying, mister President,
is I'm willing to print a bunch of money and
make living more expensive for everybody else so that these
people can have a pay raise. We have to start
(25:12):
being honest about what these politicians are saying, because they
won't be honest about what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Healthcare was the most frequently cited issue on this CBS poll.
When asked about the shutdown, and Trump still pulling stronger
when it comes to immigration and deportation. However, his ratings
on economic issues continue to erode. You didn't, Kathy, It's
all going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's all in the mail, Tim I told you about Ted.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's on the way Ted Taddy died.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It was very sad.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Donald Trump announced Trump RX last week. That's a government
run website with Pfizer as its first partner.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Okay, so basically what this is is Donald Trump is
trying to enforce what he's calling a favored Nation's clause. Basically,
he is trying to say, if you're going to sell
drugs in this country, you have to sell them at
whatever point they're your lowest, your lowest price point is
to any country in the world. If you don't do this,
we're not gonna let you sell drugs in this country. Now,
(26:14):
what the drug companies are going to push back on
is they're going to say, Okay, first of all, they're
gonna say, well, if you do that, then because we
help a lot of quote unquote poor countries, we subsidize
their purchases. I mean we I'm saying we US consumers
subsidize they're doing this across the globe. But also they're
gonna say if we can't make any money and then
we're not going to do this anymore and we'll just
fold up shop. Now probably an idle threat. I do
(26:38):
wonder about the enforcement of this through an executive.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Order and how that's going to work.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But one of the things that they're saying they're going
to do is beginning next year, the federal government is
gonna work with Pfizer, who's one of the largest drug manufacturer,
maybe the largest drug manufacturer in the world, through this
Trump rx dot gov website, or you'll be able to
buy prescriptions directly from Pfizer and bypass the pharmacy basically.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So so it sounds to me like it's going to
be similar to what Mark Cuban does where you can
go directly to the website.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I wonder what the stranglehold that the drug companies
have on all of these politicians. I mean, there's a
catch here, right, and they're not just like, Okay, you
caught us. Yeah, we were scheving and scamming everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It'll be done.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know, nine cents now for your prescription. Thanks, you
got us. We're done here. There's got to be a
catch to this, because they're not just folding up their tent.
They're not going to stop making money. And there's a
reason they give all this money to all these politicians.
So we're going to see what the catch is. I
can't just imagine that now everything becomes essentially, you know,
(27:45):
pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Costco has announced they're not going to be selling ozampic
and we Go vi at a discounted price.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Wait, don't you need a prescription for that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, they have pharmacies there. Oh, they do have at Costco. Okay, yeah,
but you can now get it without insurance.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh you used because of its affordability.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you used to be able to get I mean,
you didn't have to have insurance to have it, but
it was so expensive that it was cost prohibited for
people to get it.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But if you want to get the discounted price of
Ozepic and we Go via Costco, you still have to
have the Costco membership, so you got to pay that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Whatever it is, sixty bucks a year or whatever. Uh
So that doesn't I mean, I'm not on that, so
that doesn't really help me, but a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm not about it. Aren't you a little concerned about
the long term effects?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well, that's what I'm saying. That would be the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I look, I know some people that's helped immensely
and they're very excited with the results, and I think
that's wonderful. I am a little concerned about knowing what
this is going to do to somebody.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
In five years, ten years, ten years, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah. Forty two of adults in the United States are
classified as obese, twenty percent of children and teens.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You know, there is a point with that though, that
the obesity standards are a little out of whack, Like
there's a technical term for obese, and there's a lot
of people who you would look at and say that
person doesn't even look fat, but by the technical standard,
they are deemed obese.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Basically everyone not named Brad Pitter, Jennifer and Aniston is
obese in this country.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Hey, Hammer's going to join us next.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, he'll be. He's got day off, Butty, we're gonna
call him. I want to get his hot take on
the whole Sanchez thing, because he was one of the
first people to put out that was that this was
going down, and he was exactly right on what was happening.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So we'll get his take on that next.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Jason Hammer, one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show,
joins us now on the WIBC Hotline. He was among
the first to report the news on the Mark Sanchez altercation.
By the way, there's press conference coming up today at
eleven are supposed to be featuring the Marion County Prosecutor
Ryan Meres.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Jason Hammer joins us now.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Hammer, Hello, Hello, and yeah, what a wild news day.
Because I know how it works when you guys leave
the office on Friday, you have to record what's called
a promo, write a little something to talk about your
show coming up on Monday, but you have no idea
what's going to happen over the weekend. So sometimes they're
(30:14):
just generally vague. But man, what a Monday we've all
walked into here.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now, you were among the first to get it right,
you and JMV that this was going down. I know
you're not going to reveal your sources were like, how
does this sort of thing land in your lap?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
So I've got a buddy that I trust very much
on the inside and sent me a message early early
Saturday that said, hey, this was Mark Sanchez that was
involved in the stabbing last night. And at the time,
we didn't know the condition of Mark, and source was like,
(30:55):
I don't know the condition on him. I'm here and
it's pretty bad, but I'm also hearing he was the aggressor.
It's like, okay, So around the same time, you know,
JMV and I start talking because he's got his people,
I've got my people, and we're hearing the exact same story.
So our story is corroborated. And it was around that
(31:16):
time that a producer of TMZ puts something out so like, well,
all right, it's out there now. So I put something
on our Twitter and our social media saying this rumor
has been out there for a while. Still no comment
from the IMPD, but will follow this story as it develops.
And throughout the next couple of hours, a lot of
(31:37):
people got that story wrong. Adam Schefter a ESPN goes
out there and says Mark Sanchez was stabbed in an
attempted robbery, which wasn't even close to being the truth.
So yeah, my source again We're very fortunate to have
some ties to law enforcement in this community. Was spot
on with the information, but it was also important that
(31:58):
we got the story right.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Jason Hammer, or one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show,
joins us today via phone on the WIBC hotline. Okay,
so the delete tweet is a bad look for the
governor and lieutenant governor because you look like cowardly got
something to hide. You give Mirror sort of a freebee
to take a shot at you. But the overarching theme
of all this is Indianapolis is a super violent place.
(32:20):
Whether Mark Sanchez was the aggressor or the victim, Indianapolis
is very, very, very violent, and between the mayor and
the prosecutor and the judicial system, it just doesn't seem
like anybody's taking the lead on changing it.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
So it's time to play a little round of two
things can be true at the same time, Rob and
I'll put this out over the weekend. Yeah, I think
Indianapolis should be off the hook for the Mark Sanchez stabbing.
Right to me, this is a case of fafo. Mark
Sanchez wink fooled around and found out. But at the
(32:59):
same time, Indianapolis also still has a higher homicide rate
per capita than Chicago by ten percent according to the
recent numbers provided by the FOP, So two things can
be true here. Yeah, I don't blame Ndy for what
happened to Mark Sanchez. That sounds like it was a
Mark Sanchez situation. But let's not sit around here and
(33:21):
act like this is Pleasantville either, when you've got a
higher homicide rate than Chicago. I wish people would get
asked fired up about a delete tweet. I'm sorry as
about our crime rate as they do about a delete tweet.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
What do you think people are going to remember at
the end of the day. In regards to Mark Sanchez,
what's going to.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Be fumble butt fumble back other than butt fumble, Cacy,
it's always going to be butt fumble. Once we get
through this story five years from now, it's always going
to be butt fumble. But in regards to locally right
local story, the local news cycle here Mark, we're going
to find out a lot in the next couple days.
I'm hearing video. I want to find out why he
(34:04):
was in the alley, what condition he was in like
before we make any judgments on what we're going to
remember about Mark Sanchez. Let that stuff come out, because
there's a lot of rumors about stuff going on. If
that stuff comes out, you know me, I'm a gambler.
I'm betting it's not going to look good for the
former USC quarterback. Then I'm just telling you that right now.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Twenty years yes, real quick, real quick.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Go back to two things can be true. At the
same time, Braun and beckwith yet don't delete tweets. We've
had this conversation. I've told their staff this, nobody likes
delete tweet guide, nobody stop deleting tweets, put out a
correction later on and just own it. It'll be so
much better for you. But at the same time, again,
(34:50):
why are people so concerned about a delete tweet and
not the crime rate? That's my issue. I live here.
I live in Indianapolis. I'm basically a wifer. Grew up
on the East Side with my grandparents and my mom
and my dad. I played baseball at East Side on
brook Side. I played football at Christian Park. Moved to
Beach Gretel when I was about ten. So I've always
(35:12):
been around Marion County, give or take a few ball
state years. I'm a lifer here I live in Indy now.
I wish people gave a damn about the way the
crime situation is right now, The way they do about
a delete tweet. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, I know we got to go here, but who
would have thought twenty years ago? Hammer, if you'd have
said Mark Sanchez, that would would have more arrests than
Jason Hammer and Rob Kendall combined.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Right right, you want to get nuts, that's all left.
Get nut.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You're off today, so we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Appreciate you. Thanks Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey. It's ninety
three WYBC.
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