Kendall & Casey Hour 2, 7-28-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so you saw the video I did.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
He picked it up and threw it.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Trump's definitely appears to be cheating at golf.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well it was just a friendly game, right, just a
little stroll on the golf. I mean, this is like
a tournament.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Well okay, but like he's always like, I'm the greatest
golfer ever. Watched me hit this ball?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah? Guy, it was part of the presidential debate.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm not I'm not like mad at it. But so
Trump was in Scotland with all this EU stuff. He
cut this big trade deal. I have some concerns about that,
but we can get to that in a minute. And
they're somehow some candid camera or something. He owns a
golf course over there, and he was playing it, which
is totally fine obviously, and they they you know, there's

(00:43):
all these wadys a look at Trump, make this thirty
foot putt. Look at this incredible t shot from Trump.
But then there's a somebody's filming and he's like in
a golf cart going towards golf Force one.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
But yeah, he has a new golf cart out by
the way.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's like, which it's an armor plated golf cart.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Obviously based on what he went through. I'm sure that's
a hyper concern given the attempt on his life last year.
But he's like going towards the looks like a sand trap.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It does.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
And one of these guys, I don't know if it's
a secret service, if it's a caddy or what, but
it appears you can clearly see them like, take the
ball and.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Just throw it. He picks up the ball and throws
it a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
So you saw it, right, Oh yeah, I'm not imagining it. No,
it's all over the internet. And what's telling to me is.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
They were giving him a better lie.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Look like they didn't where the ball. Well, I guess
they must have known where the ball was, they didn't
like where it was and so well it was in
the high grass. He didn't want to walk through that grass.
Which again, it's fine, like you're just out there rolling
around with your buddies and you're like, hey, we're not
playing it down. You know, roll the ball over bubble.
That happens all the time. But most of those people
on muni courses that are doing that aren't professing to
I'm the best golfer ever, I'm the greatest presidential golfer

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of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
We don't know. You didn't see a scorecard. Maybe he
marked them all again, or maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
He Okay, are we gonna get the rules of golf here? Okay, fine, okay.
Under the rules of golf, if he had an unplayable lie,
you can't just throw the ball forward.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
When you're the president of the United States and you're
playing on the course that you own, you could do whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, No, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But under the rules of golf, you're entitled to two
club links worth of relief to get you out of
that unplayable life.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I didn't see him.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I didn't see him paying his driver down. Yeah, and
you can't throw it forward. The key is no closer
to the hole, so that's fine, But don't give me this.
I'm the greatest residential golf forever. If that's what you're doing,
if you're rolling the ball for bowling.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are you saying he might have been exaggerating his skill level.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
We haven't seen any tweets from him that I've seen. No,
maybe he did put something out and I just haven't
seen it, like refuting this, and he has to know
this video is all over the place. You're just tossing
the ball forward, buddy. It's like Judge Smalls and Caddy Check.
Don't count that. I was distracted.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
He was getting a lot of heat for taking the trip.
You know. He said it was just vacation and was
a five day visit and while he was there he
was doing deals.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Hey, by the way, before we get we can get
into that if you want. But you saw the Happy
Gilmour movie.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I did. I watched it last night.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
How was it.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I liked it. Now there's a lot of people saying,
oh my gosh, it's ridiculous, it's silly. I laughed out
loud a few times. My favorite part was the good
hearted nature that all the professional golfers displayed in the movie.
I mean you had Roy McRoy and Scheffler was in it,
and Bryson and Fred Couples and Nicholas and the one obvious.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Jack Nicholas is in the movie. He is Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah. The one obvious person who was missing was Tiger Woods,
although they referenced him plenty throughout the movie. I think
you would really enjoy it because I know how much
you like golf.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's so weird that he wasn't in it. You got
to wonder, like, did they how hard did they try
to get him? Why wouldn't he just do a cameo?
I mean, how busy could he be these days where
he doesn't have you a one day to go shoot
whatever thing they needed? That is very odd that because
Daily apparently has a John Daye is a big role.
Here's my problem. I have thought about this now three times.

(04:04):
To sit down and watch this, you know how I
am though I cannot sit through an hour and thirty
minute movie.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But I think as the golfers pop up throughout it,
I think you'll get a kick out of seeing them.
Oh my gosh, he's in it. And they clip the
original movie throughout it, because they bring back all of
the characters from the first one, and they kind of
remind you of who was in the first one. And

(04:30):
it's clearly a take on live golf. You know, I
think you would really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
It, Hammer said, Scheffler is hilarious. He is.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
And I don't want to spoil Okay, yeah, boil it for.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
You, but part about an hour and thirty minutes and
watch this movie.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean, it's not like you're not going don't go
into it expecting it to be The Godfather. I mean,
it's a comedy, and it's Adam Sandler comedy. You've got
a guy with you know, crossed eyes, and which you
have in every single one of his movies. And they
even reference some other Adam Sandler movies throughout it.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I can't even It's just I can't even tell you
the last time I watched an Adam's like a new
like a Hey and Adam Sandler movies that you better
watch it? Like it even does he even make movies
regularly anymore?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, he made this one.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, I know what I'm saying. He didn't does even
have to. I mean he's probably reached that point where
he didn't have to do any anyway. All Right, fine,
I'll find an hour and thirty minutes, but if it stinks,
I'll hold you accountable.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, like I said, it's not this big Oscar worthy direction.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm not expecting that.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I don't expect that, and you'll I think you'll
be pleasantly surprised at how fun it is with all
of the professional golf. You know what in the.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Movie Weird The things you remember as a kid, I
remember as a kid. I must have been. What year?
Look it up? What year did Happy Gilmour come out?
I'm certain it was nineteen ninety six. Tell me if
I'm right on this, and I'll tell you why it
is nineteen ninety six. By the way, we have our
our pal Ethan is what that's not Ethan Hatcher, but

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young Ethan. Ethan is a broadcasting student at Ben Davis
High School, and his parents asked if we would take
him under our wing for a day to try to
talk him out of a career of destitute and loneliness
that the broadcasting industry has to offer. So, sitting here,
Ethan has told me it is nineteen ninety six. Yeah,
here's how I remember this. Remember what do we talk
about with my mind?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Casey, Yeah, it's a file captain.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's just like a steel trap when something goes in.
And the only problem I have with this is that
I get so much stuff in there. Occasionally things have
to go out to make room for more stuff. But
I distinctly remember in the sixth grade going to the
movie theater and seeing that movie, and my buddies who
I played like elementary school sports with, just happened to

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be there too, and they were going to see the
Tommy Boy movie, which was out at the same time.
But we convinced them to come see the Happy Gilmore
movie because it was sports with us in the movie theater.
And that's how far back I can remember twenty nine
years ago vividly, like it was yesterday. I can see
it in the theater. And that, my friends, is why

(07:04):
this is the number one rated radio program in Central Indiana.
How about that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Do you remember how much you paid for that movie?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I didn't pay for it. My mother paid. Oh okay, yeah,
I distinctly what. It was a day show?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Of course, you know, you went to a matinee.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
My parents were great at hanging on to the first
nickel they ever made, so I guarantee it was some
It was a day It was a day show.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
They're thrifty as well. Well, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Cool that I can I mean, that's amazing, right, I
can remember that and going to see that movie all
those years ago. Yeah, probably some sort of serious thing
that some sort of counselor would like to take a
look at.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Get your head in an X ray machine, examine that
scientific research. So while Donald Trump was in Scotland, he
made a deal, an EU deal fifty percent tariff will
be imposed on most European goods oaturing the US.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
All right, so I got a big yeah, but I
got a big beef with this. Part of this is
that they're selling the American people. Well, the EU is
going to buy all this stuff from US.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Seven hundred and fifty billion dollars in US energy. Okay,
that's one of them.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So who's getting rich off of that? The energy industry, Yeah,
the oil gas all that, Like, that's who's gonna get rich.
I'm not getting anything out of that. All that's gonna Okay, great,
they're buying our stuff, but that doesn't help me as
a regular person that I own stock in one of
those companies. What's the other thing case.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, they said that they're going to invest six hundred
billion dollars more into the US a company economy.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And that's going to come from Dunta DA DA primarily defense.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes, hundreds of billions of dollars for US military equipment.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, So yeah, the headline looks super sexy, doesn't it.
Look at all this money they're spending, what are they
spending it on the energy industry, the rich oil guys,
and the military industrial complex. Who's going to make that
money ain't gonna be you or me.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
They're going to and this is some sort of huge.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Win for you. You're getting nothing out of this, you're gonna
get unless you won't stock in those companies. You're getting
next to nothing out of this.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well. Donald Trump called it one of the biggest deals
of all time. He said that Europe has been closed
to us, including cars, but not anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Europe is very closed. We don't sell cars into Europe.
We don't sell essentially agriculture of any great degree. They
want to have their farmers do it, and they want
to have their car companies do it. I'm just I'm
not saying anything that nobody knows that we have a
rough situation. If we want to sell cars in Europe,
we're not allowed to. And as you know, they sell

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millions and millions of cars. Mercedes, BMW, so many different Volkswagen,
so many different cars, and so many millions of cars.
I would imagine number one. I didn't look at that,
but I would imagine number one by far more so
than even Japan. Japan sells a lot of cars too.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Did you think that Vanderley and she looked like if
you were going to cast somebody for an SNL skit,
like that's what they would look like. Does she look
like she was sitting next to him.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, from all the things I've read, the EU is
very pleased with this deal, because, like he said, they're
going to continue to put a lot of stuff into
this country. And again, I'm not I'm not, you know,
a renowned economist. I'm just some guy watching from afar.
Seems like a lot of these supposed great deals we're
getting are very very targeted. When you hear something like

(10:24):
this about how it's a very select group of already
uber rich people that are going to make out like bandits,
and then when you put that on the back of
what was his big shpiel the other day it was
about AI and about the how they're gonna we're gonna
lead on AI. I don't know if he's doing this
maliciously or intently or not, but it seems like a

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whole lot of tippy top people and a whole lot
of very select people are making out really well under Trump.
And I do wonder for the regular person who it
seems like not a lot in it for them. And
in the case of the AI stuff, I think there's
a lot of job replacement that's going to be happening
as a part of that.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnike, he said that they've
got massive revenue coming in from Trump's tariffs, and this.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Is what they're selling. But it's also what they're doing
with the visa thing. Remember they were like, well, for
five million dollars, you can just buy your visa. Okay,
But while it's revenue, who's the revenue going to. The
revenue in the case of the visas at least is
supposedly going to the US Treasury. But they've already spent
that because how much did they just add to the
nation's debt on the big bullcrap bill stuff. And in

(11:30):
this time when we're talking about O look at these
trade wins. Yes, their trade wins for a very select
group of people, a very select group of uber powerful,
highly high donating people. You notice that who gives all
the money the military industrial complex and the oil and
the gas and the energy people. Right. Oh, and that
funny who made out like Bandits or a perio who
made out like bands as part of this trade deal. Huh,

(11:51):
what do you know who won the pony.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIVC. What
do we have of coming up next?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
No, you do the work around here. I just respond
to whatever you do. What are we doing? What are
we doing? Casey?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, So Andrew Ireland, State Rep. Andrew Ireland. He has
been on a crusade to get the state sign change.
Uh huh, and now he's getting uh it seems to
be a little support.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
He wants the signs reverted back to the welcomed Indians.
That's what you're talking about, Okay, And there's something that's
going to help him on this this cause.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Seems like he's getting some support in some areas. We
have to discuss that coming up from ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Hey, it's a math during the break good. Remember when
you were a kid and the teacher was like, you
need to pay attention to this. You won't always have
a calculator with you at all times. You don't need
to know how to do this yourself. Turns out we
do have a calculator with you at all times at
all times. And I was right being lippy back to
those teachers, and see, I bet they feel really stupid.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Now, so what was the math that you did?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh? Okay, so we have these just ugly in signs
welcoming people to the state of Indiana More to Discover.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So it was what May seventeenth of twenty three that
Eric Holcombe debuted the new signs, the new More to
Discover in Indiana Highway signs.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
There was nothing wrong with the old signs. They were
perfectly lovely looking signs, a nice shade of blue. As
I recall, correct used to look forward to seeing them
all the time when I would make that cross country drive.
Always kind of even though I still had two hours
to go, felt like I was home when I would
hit sixty five in the pre tollbridge days and would

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see those welcomed Indiana signs. And so, despite there being
nothing wrong with the signs, Hulcome administration felt they had
so much money that they spent forty three thousand dollars
to put up these ugly signs. I mean they are
bland and liveness right, yeah, and it does.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's like the I don't know the AI version of
a welcome sign.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And so I saw in various news outlets. I did
a little little little Google search, and there were seventy
six of these signs they put up. So if you
take forty three thousand, and you divide that by seventy six,
five hundred and sixty five dollars and seventy nine cents
a sign, that's what we paid.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Five hundred and sixty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Per se seventy nine cents. Don't forget that, Oh right,
and seventy that adds up when you're talking seventy seventy
six of these signs. Yeah, and so you know, no
money to help you with the without a gag gas
tax going up, or nobody to help you with the
offset property taxes. And now we got to toll the
roads because you know that there's no money to fix
the roads. But they had forty three thousand dollars laying

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around for signs that nobody wanted, nobody asked for, that
didn't need to be upgraded. Oh, don't forget it. That's
that same time they all spent thirty two million dollars
on the rest stop renovations too. So, yeah, there you go.
That's your state government at work. What's going on with
the signs case?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Why why did they change them? Why?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Because they could? That's the that's the overarching theme of
the entire eight years under Holcombe. Because he could, he
could take money from you, He could shut the state
in he could try to put you in jail for
not wearing a mask. He could close your business. He
could have a meet and greet with the domestic terrorist
and let him write part of the police reform bill.
He could, he could, he could, he could, he could,
so he did.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
So he did. Okay, So Andrew Ireland, who is a
state rep. He actually authored House Bill twelve seventy one
this past session to get the old Crossroads of America
or some variation of it back on the welcome side.
Wait wait, wait, wait, installed at every entry point in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now we're stuck with Holcome's badness. I'm not spending another
forty three thousand dollars. I like Andrew Ireland a lot,
but I'm not adding new I'm not if we have
a forty three thousand dollars in any account in the
state of Indiana, because we just raised taxes by a
billion dollars. Who's a company to have any money to
pay our bills? Then you put that money towards fixing
a pothole somewhere because I'm not paying another forty three
thousand to put the signs back up.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So Adam Wren from Importantville, Actually, you know, Rin highlighted
Andrew learn effort. Yeah you, Melia Wren?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
What did he say about me? Casey? He said about me?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Was it the most powerful broadcaster in the state?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
We like Rinn? He said it was the most powerful
broadcaster in the state. He wouldn't lie. What did Wren say?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
He was just highlighting the fact that Andrew Ireland introduced
this legislation and that he's on this campaign to restore
the King of Welcome Signs back. But here's the question,
because I recall last week, two weeks ago, Senator Jim
Banks posted a picture of himself with the old Crossroads

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of America Welsom sign. So where are how many were there?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Seventy six seventy six?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Where are the other seventy five welcome signs? Are they
sitting in a you know where storage unit somewhere?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Does HULKM have it on that big property he's got
out in Brownsburg? Now did he put a big one
up when you played?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Used this a fence?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Back forty?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Did I tell you? Because apparently allegedly Hulkom bought some
big estate out it's not technically in the town of
Browns or the greater Brownsburg area. I have a buddy
whose property apparently like butts up. Now. It's not like
you can't like it's it's not like a traditional house
like where your neighbor's your neighbor and you walk ten
feet and you're at your neighbor's house. Like he brought
this sprawling, massive whatever. Which how did he do that

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on a governor's salary? I don't know anyway. That should
be somebody something people should be asking about. But I
have a buddy who claims that his property, and this
person is honest a day long actually backs up or
butts up to Holkb's property, and he thought, what a
great thing someday because it's not enough property where he
couldn't probably see the house next year or whatever. Yeah,

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to just have you stand out there with a you
suck sign and HOLGM would see me and know that
at any given time.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
When he's out there cutting the ground, and be out.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
There legally pestering him and being a giina NOOI. It's
like if he wanted to, like, you know, do nude
sunbathing or something, knowing he couldn't do that because I
could potentially be out there. I could be there being
a menace to his general existence.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh huh. Do you think he ever goes into his back.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I don't know. I don't really want to know, but
you know, I just would want him to know that
I could be there at any given time. And I've
asked if my neighbor ever or my friend ever sees
his neighbor out there, to let me know. I think
I can be there in about ten minutes. I can
make it to that guy's property.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
So here's an idea. They could sell those Crossroads of
America signs, like who owns them at this point if
they're just sitting in some storage or some warehouse somewhere,
for five hundred and sixty five dollars. You could have
one in your man cave down in your basement.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But it's so big, it is big. Would you let
your husband put one up?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Where would we put it?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, that's a great question. Where does he put all
the rest of the stuff, all the rest of the
stuff in your house. That's a continual conversation about your house.
Where would we put it?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And he always finds a way he does what you could, like,
I don't know what, turn it into a headboard or
something for your bed. But they could make that forty
three thousand dollars back. Yeah, that's why if Case sold
the sign, right, Case.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's what you what somebody would want when they're having
carnal relations to look up and see, you know, the
crossroads of America, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Uh huh sure crossing something else.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Please please ladies save me, you know, please please guys
save something for the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, Casey, stay with me. I have an idea. Stay
with me on this.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, are you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Seven point four million but for potholes.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh yes, I like that idea. Do you have seven
point four million dollars? You're gonna what?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
City of Indianapolis did have seven point four million, and
they spent on a glow trail.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
A first glow in the dark trail in Indianapolis. The
trail uses glow stone embedded in the asphalt. It's to
illuminate the path for walkers and bikers at night.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay. So, WRTV, amongst numerous other media outlets, have covered
this that the city allotted twenty one They allotted it
was called hawk Sets Circle City four investment. I love
how they put like Hogseet paid for it, right.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
No, No, this is mayor Joe hog Set Circle City
Forward initiatives.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
As though a hog Set whipped out his wallet and.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Was like, I got twenty five million. Let me just
put it over here for this initiative.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Deliver correct this taxpayers, oh paid twenty five million for
the design and construction of nine trail and greenway projects,
and this is one of them. And this trail, what's
it called Pogue's Run trail cost seven point four million
dollars for five point three miles. So let me do

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a little maskie on that case. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm ready?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
All right? Seven point four divided by five point three
that's one point three to nine, almost one point four
million a mile. Wow, it seems like a lot of
money per mile, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
It does, well, it is a lot of money per mile.
But rob, it's it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Somebody said the park closes. It is that right?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
So this path that glows in the dark for people
to use at night, Yes, even though the park clothes
so it stretches from the art and Nature Park to
the Indianapolis Cultural Trail and the mon On Trail at
Tenth Street.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh, Indie Reporters is the park that it runs through
closes at dusk. Okay, very good. We knew Steven would know,
all right, So this is where we come back to you.
Remember several weeks ago, it's been probably over a month
ago now, we had Ryan Hedrick on WIBC Newsman Extraordinaire
and we were talking to him about his life when
he was a drug addict. He's been very candid, him

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and Matt Bear of a fabulous podcast everybody should subscribe
and download Supporting Sobriety, where they go into great detail
and they interview people and they one of the things
they do or they're very candid about their lives when
they were addicts. And Ryan said to us, he said,
I know how to spot an attic, like obviously right,
Like I've spent years of my life being one, dealing

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with it, working with other people, helping them a spot
an attic. And he said, Joe hog Set runs the
city of Indianapolis the exact way I ran my life
when I was in the throes of addiction. And this
is another great example where you have this monumental problem
in front of you, which is you can't even do

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the basics when it comes to keeping your roads maintained.
And yet for some reason you're allotting twenty five million.
I'm sorry, what are people going to use more on
a consistent basis? The roads or the parks? I'm not
anti park, but that's not a necessity in front of you.
Millions of drivers, i mean collectively right on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Need to get around the city.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Right when you're talking about the amount of trips that
are taken dow at the city of Indianapolis on a
daily basis, and the wear and tear and the vitality,
the vital nature of that, and the condition then that
you are allowing the roads to be in versus this.
People will look at that and go seven point four.
And I get that not all of that. Some point
for me was to make it glow. But part of
it was. And even if you say, oh, this trail,

(23:03):
it's the most vital, greatest thing ever, Okay, but did
does it have to glow?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's supposed to pay tribute to the multicolored glass path
that was created by the Marietta Glass Factory but here's
here's a kicker for you. Rob. A portion of the
trail is currently closed right now.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's like this, all the roads they're all closed.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
So they get seven point four for the glow in
the dark path even though the whole trail's not even open.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And so then people look at this and they go,
wait a second, you can't manage anything. All the roads
are shut down. It is a dumpster fire to try
to get down here that like nothing works. And then
you see this and go, okay, well, how much how
many potholes would seven point four million dollars or you
collectively combine them twenty five million dollars? Right, nobody's being

(23:53):
anti park by saying if you have a greater priority
that money, all that money should be allocated to things
that people need that are vile necessities. I'm sorry, parks
are not necessities. There are overwhelmingly more people who use
the roads in the city every single day than the
park system.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, and I think that's it. You hit on it.
It's the prioritizing what should come first, and what's a
need versus a want. Yeah, and clearly this is a
shiny new object. It reminds me of you know, Doug Squirrel,
like you know, oh yeah, that would be fancy and fun,
but it's not a necessity.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay, So you've got Caitlin Clark. Now ESPN is reporting
that she will be back in action on August twelfth.
She's been hurt, she's been out of games, went back in,
possibly went back in too soon, got hurt again. But
it's not keeping people away from buying her collectible items.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, so real quick, this is my question to you,
because I predicted when she was drafted. I said this,
this Clark manius has a three to five year shelf life.
Like if you look at traditionally the niche sports and
the people who revolutionize those sports or brought mainstream attention
to those sports, you know, you think about like I said,

(25:13):
I know he use his names all the time, but
Wayne Gretzky and hockey. If you look at Tiger Woods
and golf. Let's even use something even more timely, if
you look at the world of professional wrestling with Hulk
Cogan and Hulkamania because he obviously just passed away. The
peak of professional wrestling was nineteen eighty four through nineteen
ninety and then there was a massive dip that lasted

(25:33):
about seven or eight years. Why because the Hogan thing
had run its course. He was pro wrestling, he was
the face of pro wrestling. People had seen the thing,
and it tapered off. So if you look at all
of these niche sports or niche entertainment, there's about a
three to five year shelf life where people get totally
engrossed in the thing and then it starts to just
kind of climb because you've seen it, right, and the
sport itself, the thing around the person is not capable

(25:56):
of elevating, and so Worl'll be two years into this
and if she's consistently hurt, I mean she's been and
I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm not blaming her,
not anything. She's a professional athlete. It happens. But if
she's not playing as much as she's playing, Yeah, at
one point do people kind.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Of go Okay, not as interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I just can't consistently see it. So I just you
have to. You have to maintain momentum with sport. You
have to consistently know it's like any other product. If
you don't consistently have something like, oh, I don't know
Let's say you're the lieutenant governor and people don't consistently
know when your doors are going to be open because
you shut your office on Fridays for some unknown reason.
Like right, people crave consistency for any business. If you

(26:34):
called to business, will they be open to day? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
At some point, by McDonald's has been so successful because
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
What it's going to taste, like bingo, casey, that is perfect? Right?
At what point do we expedite? Is there an expedition
of this three to five year timeline where yeah, she's great,
but if I can't consistently get it, I just kind
of check out and then oh is she playing again?
And it takes me two weeks to realize she's even
been playing right exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I mean I had to do a little research to
find out, Okay, when is she coming back? Was she back?
They just played, did they win? Did they lose? And
if you're not don't have eyes on her all the time,
that's when you start to lose interest because.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Didn't they play the Angel Reese team? The Fever just
played the Angel Rees team and she didn't play, So
you have it to be this marquee game and the
one players turned out to be Bricklayer Central, but nobody
will admit that because well, that would be harmful to
political correctness to admit she stinks and she has no
business getting the attention or the publicity that she does.
But take that away from it. She didn't even play,

(27:30):
and then Clark doesn't play, and that supposed to be
like your marquee game, your marquee rivalry. And now I
think that's twice right that they've had this game and
they haven't played.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
They haven't the matchup hasn't been there.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Can you imagine it's the nineteen eighties and hey, it's
the Lakers and the Celtics. Yeah, Larry and Magic they're
they're not gonna play. It's the Pistons and the Bulls. Yeah,
Jordan and Isaiah they're not going to be in the game.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You just people are just not the same.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh it's not.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
People are still buying her merchandise though, or rather her collectibles.
There was a pop one of one twenty four Panini
flawless WNBA platinum logo Woman patch cards.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, wait, okay, so time out, because you're with it's
a mouthful. Yeah you're speaking Chinese there so that it
is a pop pop is population. It means there's one
of them in the world. They only made one of them.
It's a logo. I'm going to try to decipher here
using the King's English. This it's a logo. What did
you say it again? And I'll decipher it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
It's a it's a one of one twenty four Panini flawless.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's the brand. Is a brand of card yeap WNBA
Platinum Logo Woman patch card.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, So in the sports collecting world, I think this
is the dumbest thing ever, by the way, but it
is what it is. These Logo Man cards in which
the symbol for the NBA, which was Jerry West, has
been became known as logo Man. Jerry West is the
logo of the National Basketball Association. You see the courts,
the brand everything, Well, on these patches that these players wear,

(28:53):
there's a logo Man. And in these cards they take
say this is stupid when you say it out loud, right, like,
they cut the logo Man off of the of the
jersey or whatever and they put it on the cart.
And for some reason, the public is totally enamored with
these Logo Man cards and they sell for a gajillion dollar?
Did I do that in English?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah? You did, good job. So she has one of
these and it sold for six hundred and sixty thousand dollars,
setting a new record for any card of any female Apple.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, so again let's talk about and I look. Obviously,
I'm going to the National because I love to just
see the nerds on full display. I'm going to the
National on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Are you Is that what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm going to lunch with your wife? Why you're at
the Nash exactly right?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I told my wife she goes. I don't want to
go to Chicago. I said, I'll give you the credit card.
Oh great, I didn't tell her. I'm turning it off.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm just gonna get nice. No, her and I are
going to go shopping and eat while you do what
I I just want to see nerd activity.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You're just want to see it on. I want to
watch your husband for a full day. I just don't
want to see him geek out in real time. But
but the like think about that. You could buy in
Central Indiana, pick pick your favorite suburban community. You could
buy an upper an upper middle class house house right
for what you just paid because it has a stupid

(30:10):
patch on.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It, I mean when we say it out loud, right, Yeah,
So the previous record was three hundred and sixty six
thousand dollars, and it's nearly doubled that. So you asked
about her popularity and the staying power of that. Yeah,
well in the past year. Actually wasn't even the past year.
Just in March, the previous record was three hundred and

(30:31):
sixty six thousand dollars. Now here we are a few
months later, and it's already doubled that. keV.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Kevi appreciate this, and I know we gotta get to hammer. keV.
You ever date someone like really out of your league,
like totally this person has no business being in any
sort of interpersonal interaction with me.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Pretty close to my league.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Okay, then I'll just speak from my own experience. Here's
what you do. You never pay for the fancy meal
at the end, when you know the thing is about
to go down in flames. You do it in the
beginning where there is a rate of return, right, because
there's still something you desire, there's still something you want,
there's still something to be had. Out of this. These
people are paying the premium price for something that, like

(31:09):
we said, it's a three to five year shelf life.
This is not sustainable. This person is going this is
a consult your trained investment professional, but this is like
a horrible investment.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Six hundred and sixty thousand dollars for a patch. Yeah,
you know. I So all I need is somebody with
that kind of money to buy a collection of sports
illustrated magazines and you'll and that 'll be like, that
is the best investment ever. All Right, You'll never.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
See Casey, Sorry, behind never get Hammer's next.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Jason Hammer. What happened the Hammer and Nigel Show. You
can hear that week days after afternoons here on WIBC.
Joins us. Now you're gonna get out there and use
the seven point four million dollar glow trails A resident
of the city of Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, I like.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
To have the seven million dollar pothole fixing Assessment club begin.
That would be what I would enjoy, But I don't
think that's gonna happen anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Whatever the dumbest thing to do with money is it
seems like the city just says, let's do that, right,
and like, look who the leaders of the city are.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
You've got boss hog Set and you've got Ryan Meers.
Ryan Meers love to do a victory lap on like
the high profile things you have seen in the news.
And he hopes, and he crosses his fingers that you're
too stupid and or lazy to look at the other
half of the story, Like there's a guy he's celebrating.
Look at this guy we've just arrested. Look at his

(32:39):
previous offenses. Look at the sweetheart deals that you gave
him that got him out there.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Do you have a theory on why he behaves like this?
He lives here, he can't want there to be all
sorts of violence.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
He never wanted to be the prosecutor. This was a
stepping stone.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
For his career to become the mayor.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
So you just don't want to mess with.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
It, right, He honestly would rather probably be a public
defender than anything else. But he is going to pray
on stupid people sing a headline and for whatever reason,
too many news stations in the city carry his water.
And I mean, this guy is one of the worst.
But he has no interest in being a prosecutor. He
wants to be the mayor. And look for those gonna

(33:19):
yell at me. Oh, you're just saying this because you
vote one side or the other. Terry Curry was a Democrat,
didn't really know which political party he was because a
bad guy was a bad guy.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
To Terry Curry, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Like the prosecutor, you really shouldn't care about their political leanings,
because it should be common sense that you lock up
a violent habitual offender. But Ryan Meers, he wants to
put it back out there, rub their hair, call him
a little scamp into a basketball clinic.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Did I hear you right? You got a new phone?

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, so I'm at the back right now. I'm trying
to get my work email on my phone.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You've had that baby phone forever I have. I have
teeny iPhone.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Let the record clearly state that Rob Kendall the Cheapest
Man live. It's getting me a lecture on having a
phone for a long time, right. But no, I'm trying
to get my work email on my phone. But it's
so ridiculous because you have to have this verification app.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Because I guess there was some.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Hacking going on with the Urban one system back in
the day. So I get on my laptop, I get
on my app and each one's one in the QR
code from the other one.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I don't have the damn QR code.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
The whole thing sucks.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It sucks, Rob, I hate it.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I've never had see I just feel like you're creating
a lot of grief for yourself. No matter where I've
ever worked, I've never had a work email on my
phone ever, I just think you're creating a lot of
grief for yourself. The simple thing would be just to
not have your work email on your phone.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Well, Rob apples, you'll drive pretty competitive, So I work
from home. I email myself a lot of stories and
because of that, like you guys, we're number one.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
How we dominate. That's where Casey comes in. I have
no idea what she has on her phone because she
does all the work.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
You don't want to know. I just.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
That should be a contest.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Call on number nine to find out what's in Casey's phone.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Hey, speaking of it's Jay Baker, the legendary broadcaster, had
a great idea. He said in honor of Diego, refusing
to come off who paid for India. We should have
a contest where caller nine wins a trip to India
when a dream date with Diego? Can you imagine how
fun that would be? And you got to go to India.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I'm not sure we'll get a lot of entrance in
that kind Dad, we.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Got to did you hear he sent us in cats
rather mean letters saying he would not come on our
programs after screaming that we were fake news and wouldn't
tell his story. And we were like, we want to
tell your story, and then he sent us both emails
and was like, no, I'm not coming on your program.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
We had him on once, I believe, like right before
the election, talking about election security, but I've kind of
left him alone because that's your guy's enemy. Like, I'm
not one of these guys that's going to hijack your enemy.
You guys knocked yourself up.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Some folks do that. I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So you know, we haven't had him on, but we
didn't get a letter. Somebody told me the best radio
would be if we interviewed Diego, Morales and Hammer just
sat in the corner and had commentary.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Like I don't really know if like your listeners and
our listeners all get along though, because like when we
have Govenor brawn on, I have asked him about property
decks every single time, and the last time I did it,
and like two minutes later in the conversation, like your
numbnuts listeners in your YouTube.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Why you're going to ask him about property texes.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I just did it.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
He's answering it right now. But you sent me the
screenshot for those people where and they hate me too? Okay,
what are we doing this afternoon?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Oh so you guys are talking about the happy Gilmore thing?
I want to take this down another direction. How crappy
is Hollywood that we're all just taking our pants off
and doing you know what because of a Netflix movie.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
For a happy Gilmore too, for happy Gilmore too? Right, Yeah,
where are the movies at?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Thank you hammer. You're listening to Kennell and Casey on
ninety three WIBC