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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One one of these parties political parties to get it together.
I mean, the public is right there for the taking,
you think, so, are they're right there for the taking?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Case?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, it looks like, according to the Wall Street Journal,
though the Democratic Party has a lot more to go.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I had a conversation with somebody recently about just this,
and it was.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The need we're.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Talking specifically about Indiana where the Democrats to get their
act together. And we've had this conversation on this program before,
which is the reason the Republicans behave as poorly as
they do. The spending, the crony capitalism, allowing people like
Diego Morales just to wander the state halls without any
semblance of accountability at five am, as anybody ever actually
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seen him there at five am, is because they know.
The Republicans know the Democrats are so radical and come
off as so radical and so unlikable and unelectable to
the public in this state. And when you factor in
the way they've gerrymandered the district, et cetera, that they're
basically invincible.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And as long as the.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Democrats make the Republicans invincible, we're going to keep getting screwed, right.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Because they have a super majority, they can do what
they want, they can continue to tax you all they want.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then if you extrapolate that out nationally.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now, obviously they're not super majorities in either the House
or the Senate, but the Republicans control all three levers
of government, the House, the Senate, the presidency, and the
Democrats gave that away there too because they just ran
as complete radicals. Nobody likes the Republicans, Nobody enjoys the
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Republican brand. Know, they're people who are invested in Trump
and the Trump brand, but that's totally separate from Republicans.
You saw that in the down ballot races in twenty
twenty four, where Trump would win a state and the
Senate guy or girl would lose. And now there's pulling
out showing how much people do dislike the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Okay, so speaking of that polling, this is from the
Wall Street Journal and is said only eight percent of
registered voters view the Democratic Party as favorably. Sixty three
percent say it's out of touch with Americans everyday concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
What's the favorable number?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Eight percent? No way, Yeah, it's the lowest level they've
had since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That is horrible, and you know you have.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Major issues. Well, that's let's be let's be specific. That's
very favorably. There are people who would view them some
a favorably, but we're talking about the hardcore in the
Democrat camp. According to Newsweing, only eight percent of registered
voters view the Democrat Party as very favorably. That is
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essentially meaning that you are losing twenty percent of your
own base doesn't view you very favorably.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Correct, that's bad.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Republicans lead on eight out of ten key issues, and
the top three include economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So this is always my question with polling, like when
you look at the base of your party, am I
considered the base of the Republican Party because I hate
the Republicans? But ideologically I am as in lockstep on
the party platform or the things they espouse to be
as anybody. Yet I hate them because they don't do
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the things that they claim. So like, do I count?
And I wonder on the other side, does the guy
on the left. Is there a bizarre world of that
with me where there's this uber liberal guy who's like, well,
I'm the base, but I hate the Democrats because they
don't do anything they claim to be for. Like, does
that exist on the other side of the aisle?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It probably does, But you're talking about polar opposites. I
don't know if you'd be the base of the Republican Party.
I think you'd be more of a base of a
conservative movement.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah. I don't have a home. That's part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I should get a spot out there over on Luger
Plaza because I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Almost panhandling for money. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, So the net favorability for the Democrats is negative thirty,
and I believe this is a Wall Street Journal poll
I think is that?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, okay, is net negative thirty?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Overall?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Only one third voters express any positive sentiment towards the party.
And I don't know how they recover from this.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well. They keep saying this is a messaging problem, and
I don't think it is a messaging problem. I think
most people understand their message, and that's the problem. It's
the wrong message.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, you ran so far to the left on stuff
that the American people.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Like politics. And I tell people this all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I had a conversation yesterday or a couple days ago
with a guy who I've had two conversations with people
who are considering running for public office, and I do
the same thing now. I am James earld Owns and
Field of Dreams. What I desire to be is left alone.
Don't ask for my endorsement. Micah and Braun ruined that
basically for everyone forever. But I told these people, they said,
I will advise you on what I would do because
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you seem like decent people, and then I'll wait to
see if you you screw everybody over and then rip
you accordingly.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Tell them to use your your phrase. I'm I don't
want any more of your stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
If Yeah, if I were running for public office next year,
my sign would be I want less of your stuff.
That's what the slogan would be, and anybody, any candidate
can use that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You should credit me for it, but you may use
that on your campaign sign, I want less of your
stuff And people would love that look in primary Can
you imagine the tagline I want less of.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Your stuff and then their name and then your name.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, but I told, I told you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We were talking about just, you know, a variety of
things in terms of running for public office, and one
of the things that these politics. The problem is good
people don't really run, so they don't really have to
bring an a game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
They don't have to step up.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It's just they can run on They can just run
on name idea, and then the party will come and
give them a bunch of money and save them if
they've been good.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Little boys or girls.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But he said, we were talking about, you know, running
for office and messaging, and I said, one of the
things is nobody knows how to message. Nobody understands how
to get the election down to three or four bullet
points and then message it effectively. And the problem for
the Democrats is if we're running a three or four
bullet point election, which whether it's nationally or locally, for
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most people, it is a three or four bullet point election,
their messaging and the thing that they've gone all in
on is insanity, like the idea that they are still
wed to treating illegal immigrants better than US citizens, which
that guy who got shipped to whatever foreign country it
was that the Trump administration said was in the gang,
whether he was or wasn't, the American public looks at
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that and goes, look at you politicians going to the
ends of the earth for this guy who most people,
I think believe there's something going on with that guy.
Whether what exactly it is, don't know, but they're like, look,
you're going to foreign countries to meet with this guy.
What are you doing for us? What do you do
the whole thing about. They're all still in on little
kids being able to chop off their penises, boys deciding
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they could be girls girls Like it's things that the
public you've lost the public on, and yet they go
all in on it. It's one thing to go uber
hard and maybe uber to one side or the other
on a thing that the public buys into.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Like you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If the public buys into your thing, you can go
hard on it and you go a little extreme on it.
Because people view you as a fighter on a thing
and the other side's not. You can get away with more.
This is insanity and the stuff the public is not
with it. It's the things they put front and center
and choose to be all in on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, it's a tip for the Democrats. They need to
put down the gender studies think pieces, pick up a
paycheck stub, talk to real people who are shopping out
at the grosser store and be a real human and
then until then it's not going to look good for
twenty six the Democrats, casey, real people are struggling with
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do I or do I not know these people better
than they know themselves? You do?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I am about to give the Democrats some totally free,
unsolicited advice. And if you listen to this, while you
won't be in control really of anything by November of
next year, if you do what I'm about to tell you,
you might actually have a path back to at least
not laughability.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In this state.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And what I'm about to tell you is this, and
I mean this with every fiber of my being. The
most important thing that will happen in the state next
year is if Diego Morales loses his reelection for Secretary
of State. You have a once in a lifetime opportunity
with a guy who by the day gets more despised
by the electorate, including people in his own party, because
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he is seen as a totally unethical, probably corrupt, complete
and utter buffoon who has utter disdain for the taxpayer
and is just there to better himself and the people
around him. And it is rumored that you have an
A plus potential candidate running against him. If you're a
Democrats in Evan Bye's son bo by no, whether he's
gonna pull this trigger on that, don't know, that's the
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big rumor.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's the best.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You're going to do. Diego is the worst you could
possibly run against. However, in order to build a coalition
that would give you the Secretary of State's office, which
would be a home run for you, guys have to
you have to eliminate the insanity around around bow Bye.
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You have to eliminate that, which means the lunatic pink
haired people. Now, look, I know there's some people with
pink car who are not lunatic people, but you get
what I'm saying. The on demand abortion advocacy people gotta go.
The boys should be able to chop off their penises,
gotta go, men and women, sports people gotta go. The
climate lunatics gotta go. If you nominate normal people around
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the state for the State House and State Center races,
even if they lose, as long as they don't alienate
people and allow the focus to be on how completely
ridiculous Diego Morales is, you guys might be able to
win that election and have a path with something. Now
are they going to do that? Probably not, because they
can't help themselves.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But well, that's how you do it. Well.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
The thing with bi is he's got the name recognition.
He also has the financial backing to make it work.
He just needs to take a more centrist, populous view
on things and be clear, concise, and consistent. It's the
entire run.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He will He's not going to be Destiny Wells running
on on demand abortion advocacy.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
If he runs, he will be a good candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But what you can't have is in some place named
Ville or Berg, some totally leftist lunatic running for state
Senate that alienates the populace who reminds them, yeah, Diego
might be totally totally corrupt. But can't have that in
there and be costing the guy votes. That's what you
can't have. And so the onus comes on the party
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to say, hey, we can actually win this one. We
can actually beat this guy, and this is a big one.
We might have a chance to win a big one
if we just act normal.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Just don't even run.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Candidates, don't run anyone, just run everybody with that guy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you've got to talk about the bread and butter
issues that actually affect people in their wallet. Talk about
the crime, inflation, immigration, That's what people want. They want
results that not this rainbow flag legislation that comes with
a ten page glossary on pronouns like understand the moment
in which you're running and then you might actually have
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a chance. And here's another piece of advice. You always say,
do the three big things on the door, knock or
and then that's it. Right. Here's one and that's the clear, concise, consistent.
Here's one other one. This is marketing, one on one, expectation, realization, memory,
Tell me what you're gonna do. Do it, Remind me
what you did. It's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We gotta welcome the fake news Indy Star to the party.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Headlines. We've got so much to get to later.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm gonna read you two headlines that have just popped
up over an indie star. And because this dumb ass
decided he was gonna fight with the two most powerful
media outlets in the city, US and the Star headline
one Diego Morales's companion on India Trip promoted EB five
visas while being paid by state. I wonder who he's
talking about there headline two, our old pal James Briggs.
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Diego Morales' work ethic isn't the problem, it's his corruption.
So we'll have so much Diego stuff to talk about
because that guy can't keep his big yapper shut and
he wants to fight, so we're more than happy to
give it to him and our old pals at the
Star getting on board.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You got to wonder if you knew these articles were
coming out, which is why he threw Indie Star into
the soup with us.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No, I think he got mad at Indie Star because
Star did a big X was a on his campaign donation.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh that's who did he go after? When?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
After us and the Star because we were talking about
the campaign donations. Okay, I have a social media etiquette
question for you, Casey Kem. You can get in on
this too. You're a young person, your vibrant, you're full
of life, and you're closest to the young.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
People in our society.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, how old is too old to be posting about
your relationships on social media?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, if you're getting married or something, I don't think
it's you can never be too old, like, you know,
you want to celebrate that with friends and family right now.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, no, no, I'm talking about like the rank and file.
This is who I'm dating, This is who I'm not dating.
Tony and I have broken up, or Saul and I
it just didn't work out, or you know, Laura and
I are no, Like how how old is too old
to be telling me who you're dating on social media?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Telling the world how old are you? Kevin? You're thirty,
I'm thirty. Yeah that's the age.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I think it's way younger than that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I think that's like middle school behavior.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To post your relationship statuses. Well, if you're posting about
the drama.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The breakup, yeah, I don't know that. If you're crying online, Yeah,
why are you putting that out there?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Keep that off?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Because can't you select private? Just certain people can find
that information? Sure, Like why do you have to tell
the world?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But why does any Okay, So, because I see this
still quite a bit from people my age ish where
you know, Jimmy and I are no longer together, Emily
and I have decided to part ways, Okay, But then
every so often you'll see the we got back together
posts and it's like, again, I used to revel in
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those posts in my early twenties when Facebook first became,
and think, is it meant somebody was back on the market, right?
I needed to know to know what the rules of
engagement we really You could just change your relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, people used to just do that. You could also
do that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You know, you used to in your early twenties when
Facebook was the college kid platform, live and die off
of the relationship posts. However, as you have entered your
late thirties or forties, or in some cases even I
see people in the older than that posting about it.
That is too old for me to care about your
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relationship staty switching.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Back and forth. Maybe the person is just trying to
block any awkward, you know, conversations, but you better make
sure before you put it out there for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Because if then you get back together, which I've seen
this on multiple occasions, right then it's like the where
the person the you know, I can't believe this scoundrel
did da da da da dah dah blah blah blah blah.
What am I supposed to hate this person? I don't
even know this person, I don't know whatever. But then
a couple weeks later, Hey, you know, here's just it's
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just like it's like an episodic television.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We just picked back.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Up, right, and don't we were on a break.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Don't I have to comment, don't have to say what happened?
I thought this guy was a you know, a piece
of you know what I mean. I can just let
that go, can't. I hate this person?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, you need to get in there. You forgave them.
Now you're messing with my most Oh, it wasn't that
bad after.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Roller coaster kick came.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So I am not incorrect in viewing people in their
late thirties, forties, whatever and saying, I am you are
too old to be telling me about your relationships. Yeah,
I think I'll get the picture when the guy just
stops showing up in your photos, right, I'll get the figure.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like, Okay, here's an example.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I noticed this the other day, some person who you
ever you ever get this kevi on social media or
casey where you just won't see someone for a while
and then all of a sudden something of theirs pops
up and you're like, I forgot that person was even alive?
Did Facebook change the algorithm?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Then you realize, know that person hadn't been posting, and
now they're posting again, and now they're posting minus one person.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Right. You know, I could put context clues.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Like if I haven't seen a poster me you since
twenty nineteen, and now here you are, look at me
at the gym, look at you, look.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
At I'm living my best life.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Especially when the posting is followed by a bunch of
inspirational quotes hang in there, it's a cat hanging from
a branch, like, hang in there.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I can put those and that's sort of probably the
appropriate way to do it. Clearly, that person didn't want
you having social media because men or women or whatever
would be engaging in commentary on your assemblage. And that's fine.
Now you're back. It's like the Happy Gilboar movie. It
took a while, but you're back on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Here you are.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You want people to know they engage with you again.
Now we can put it all together. That's the correct
way to go about it, no commentary required.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's interesting you bring this up because the average American
now spends ten point four hours a day doing what
being online? Ten hours a day?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, that seems about right. Okay, So I sleep, I
don't sleep. How many hours a day do you sleep?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Sleep?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Maybe maybe five?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you do you do take a nap in the
middle of the day, don't you?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah? I try to sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Because I've called Casey multiple times, including yesterday, in the
middle of the day. And here's the here's how it
here's how the answers Hello. What you knew I was
gonna call you?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, I know, which is why I made sure my
ringer was on Hello like I would.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I would.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you do got to go so collect collectively, you
do you think you take between five and six hours
a day of sleep collectively?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
With the nap, it's probably closer to seven.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. That's good because you got to get the you
gotta get the aid in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, I don't get the eight in.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, for sure. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You're so well preserved, very unhealthy. I understand that. So
the time split is almost evenly between streaming video content.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, they count five hours a day.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
General internet use five point four hours, So that includes browsing, shopping,
social media, email, paying bills, gaming, and remote work.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, time out.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So this is why I was going to say, Okay,
so if you said the person slept eight hours a day,
that means of the sixteen hours they're spending ten ten.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I do have a problem with this though, because by
that I watch I watch all the Chris Hansen stuff,
like probably at least an hour a day of old
stuff or whatever, just because I count.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But it's television.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
See but it's streaming, right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But see this, I don't watch television anymore. Everything I
have is streaming. So this is not fair to me
because if I had cable and they said all the
Chris Hansen reruns were on TBS, well, then I would
watch it on TBS. Am I a better person because
I'm watching it on TV. It's all on the streaming now.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm not glued to the Internet in the sense of
my phone, but I'll have it on while I'm working
out and stuff because i just love watching potential child
predators go to prison and I just love the interviews.
But I'm technically on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They're they're they're calling it. Yeah. So fifty five percent
stream via television, twenty percent use mobile phones, twenty five
percent use laptops, desktops or tablets.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, we got to take a break because we have
So the Star took a huge.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Giant dump all over Diego, Morales, double shot dump Kevin
Cue up the chicken sauce.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Right, yeah, it's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Hey, our old pals at the Indie Star are asking
one of the most important questions the Indiana Secretary of
State will not answer, which is what does Raju Shinhala
do for his massive taxpayer funded contract with the state?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Great piece right now, now, Look.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Briggs has a has a James Briggs friend of the show,
has an opinion piece on Diego. We were going to
do both of these together, but I thought, why just
dump on Diego for one segment when we can dump
all over in for two. So next hour we'll get
into the Briggs Diego. You wanted to fight, buddy, you
want to fight, You got the fight.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't know if he wanted to fight. I know
he wanted to do things and not be questioned.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
This is and and the title of just to tease
what we'll get into Briggs, because it's a perfect headline,
Diego Morales's work ethic isn't the problem, it's his corruption. Yeah,
and we'll get into that later. But from a straight
news perspective, Haley Colombo has the peach. You can see
it now at ed Indy Starr on One of the
questions that we have asked for the past four months
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is what does this guy Raju Shinhala, who has I
believe was eighty thousand dollars state contract with Diego Morales's office,
what does he do for this money?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah? He was paid eight thousand dollars a month for
a ten month contract. And that was when when I
no big contract.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
By the way, yes, and we.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Have now seen Indy reporter, I think was the guy
who got the con tract and put it out what
he's supposed to be doing, and none of that appears
to have anything to do with what the Secretary of
State's office actually is.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
When I asked Diego directly about it, Diego said he
works in the business services division. I said, what does
that mean? He checks on the businesses? I said, what
do you mean? He checks on the businesses like there's
hundreds of thousands of businesses in this state. Does he
go to every door, Hey, is everyone okay in there?
Are you guys all right? What we do know, and
(22:29):
this is what the article centers around, is that Raju
went with Diego to India.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes, on this mysterious.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Trip economic development trip ten days where Diego won't tell
anybody who paid for the trip.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
We also know, according to various social media posts of
the people who were in India at the time, that
a venture capitalist went with Diego and Raju as well.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And by, and this is the center part of the article.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Raju was bragging about selling EB five visa access with financing, yes,
while he was in India, And he just happened to
say he was going to be in the same place
where the Star report of Diego met with the mayor.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Correct, Like, you don't have to be a.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Rocket scientist to start putting all this together. That a
secretary of State disappears for ten days to a foreign
country doing something that he has no statutory authority to do,
and some guy with a mysterious state contract goes with him,
and oh, that guy's also selling EB five visa access
while he's there, and there just happens to be a
venture capitalist on the trip. With him like, you don't
have to be a rocket scientist to go Hey, there's
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some red flags here.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah. Absolutely so. In a March social media post, Rajuchinhala
posted that he would be in Hyderabat until March twenty
ninth if you'd like to meet to discuss EB five
and he also said hurry, they're going fast.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So what was interesting was I guess the star Haley
Columbo got a hold of Raju and he said, quote,
at all times, I remain mindful of the importance of
transparency and integrity in public service.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, you haven't tell us who paid for the trip, Raju?
Who paid for Diego to go to India?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Who paid for you to go to Indian Who paid
for the venture capitalists to go to India? Who paid
for the tripp to India? That's transparency, that's integrity.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
He said it was primarily a personal visit, but acknowledged
that he quote did assist in the planning and coordination
of the Secretary's conference attendance and other various meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
So he's admitting, Raju, he's double dipping.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He is in India selling these EB five visas, which
we know he's also then appearing to confirm I was
doing official contracted.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Duties, whatever those are.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And you don't have the right to know who paid
for this guy to get there. You don't have the
right to know who paid for Diego to get there.
And you don't have the right to know how this
venture capital guy factors into all of this. You don't
have the right to know it.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So Raj Dudchinhala he started promoting the EB five efforts
in late February, and it was on a now deactivated
Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Julia Vaughan, who's with the group Government is Common Cause Indiana.
They're a government watchdog group. I thought her quote was
very interesting. She said, it's a bit like double dipping.
It appears the Secretary of State likes to surround himself
with people who certainly aren't afraid to mix personal business
with the state's business. You can't serve two masters. Well,
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it's not appropriate setup to ensure the citizens get what
in this case Raju is getting paid for. We don't
know what Raju is getting paid for. And with Diego,
it is one red flag after another, over and over
and over and over and over and over and over again.
And he acts like we're the bad guys for pointing
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it out, for asking the question. We want to know
who paid for this trip, and we want proof you
paid it back, and we want to know what this
guy Raju does for our money. See, the problem is
he doesn't view it as our money. He doesn't give
a damn about your money. He's gonna do whatever he's
gonna do. And he is using your money to run
a twenty four to seven campaign operation.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
He's using state tax money to run a twenty four
hour a day, seven day a week campaign operation.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, and Chinhala said that his activities were educational and
unrelated to the state when he was there.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And this Lindsey Eton woman who responds to all of
these emails, she's the communications woman.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I want to feel bad.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I want to feel bad for her, but she knows
who she works for exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So quit carry in the water.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And Lenny's responses are ridiculous, like that nonsensical response she
sent you and Tony about refusing to come on the
Diego's refusal to come on the show. Listen to this
and it's always the smell test, right, just you like,
does this sound right? The contractor They won't even say
his name.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I know they called him the contract Roger.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We know who he is. Rajushinhala is the guy's name.
That's his name.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Was not exclusively employed by the office, or subject to
restrictions on other activities or engagements, or privy to confidential information.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
How do we know?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
We don't know anything about this trip. You know what
we know about this trip what people in India who
are in attendance posted about public events.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's it. That's what we know about this trip.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
M M. And they act like like that is such
an insulting response to the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She should be ashamed of herself.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The contractor. That's where we should call him from now on.
The contractor sounds like a movie.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So good job on the indie star on digging into this,
Good job on them asking the hard questions. Everybody should
go read that article because the Secretary of State is again.
The headline from Briggs is perfect and we'll get into
it next hour. Because he takes a blowtorch to this guy.
Morales's work ethic isn't the problem, it's his correct and
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everything Diego does, everything Diego does is about himself.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I mean, they've created a law to stop the no
bid contracts because it was getting out of hand.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It is just unbelievable that the Republican Party Braun Rokeeda,
Rokeeda knew what he was. That's why the paperwork showed
that when Diego worked for Roketi, he fired him.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
He was fired, and now he's turning around endorsing him.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Braun.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Why what happened there?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Braun?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Rokeeda Micah Mike is the worst of them all. Because
Michael went on this radio show, No, I have such concerns,
I'm so worried about India. Yes, he needs the answer.
And then where's he ended up with at the NBA Finals?
Go to a basketball game with the guy? Then you
got the Speaker of the House, Houston, you got Rod Bray.
All these people know what he is. They all have
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the ability to do something about it. They all have
the ability to four saints. Braun could put an end
to this tomorrow. Mike Braun could put an end to
this tomorrow by instructing the state Police to launch a
thorough investigation into this guy. They could get all the
answers that everybody's asking for. There's a reason Braun won't
do it, and I bet it's the same reason he
won't come clean on what happen with Tom Kleinelter or
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the new state police superintendent, because they ain't gonna look good.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And only he's not gonna look good for Braun.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
In this case with Diego, it's not gonna look good
for all these people. Where the money that touches Diego
touches these other politicians.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Let's just say the quiet part out loud. They know
what Diego is, Rokeeda.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Knows, Micah knows, Braun knows, Houston knows, Ray knows, the
entire building knows what that guy is.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And nobody will do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Because money that touches him touches so many other people.
And instead of doing what's right for you, instead of
raising their hand and saying, you know what, I'm gonna
do the right thing. Money be damned, political career be damned.
Look at how egregious the behavior that this guy is.
We're gonna do the right thing and get to the
bottom of this. They just sit there silently and allow
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it to continue.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're listening to Kennelly Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Jason Hammer from the number one rated hammer in Nigel
Show joins us now and I know you, like me,
are a massive Chicago Cubs fan, and a rough day
for Cubs fans everywhere. I think you would say arguably
the most beloved Cubs certainly of the modern era.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The cable TV era.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Right right when cable TV first really started becoming mainstream.
You know, it was the superstation WGN. Those were the stations, right, TBS, WGN.
All the Braves games were on TBS, All the Cubs
games were on WGN.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So by default, if you were a sports.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Fan at all, you started to identify with a lot
of these people because they were on your TV all
the time. And as a Cub fan like Ryan Sandberg
was part of the group that was like my babysitter
growing up, because I'd go to my grandparents house. Both
of my parents worked, so I'd go to my grandparents'
house and they got this new thing called cable television,
so they plopped me right down in front of that den.
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Harry Carey, Steve Stone, and Rydo were basically my babysitters
growing up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know, it's weird, Like Case said I were talking
about earlier to start the show, the Sandford thing. It
feels like a massive deal because you're right, millions of
people saw this guy every day because there were so
few options. I mean, obviously Cable you had, you know,
fifty sixty channels, but in terms of if you wanted
to watch baseball nationally, you really did have two options.
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And the Cubs, because they were Chicago, had such a
loyal following that so many people. He was such an
integral part of their childhood.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And he was the perfect ambassador for it right like,
right place, right time. You could say the same thing
about hal Cogan right right place, right time when Cable
first started going into the mainstream. Hal Cogan was this
bigger than live character. And you know, USA was the
benefit factor of that same thing with WGN.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Here's this good looking guy.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Chicks dig him, Guys like him because he's an amazing
ballplayer on a team that's honestly not very good. You know,
the whole time Rhino was in Chicago, I think they
made two playoff runs.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
They had some awful teams, but he was really good.
Handled everything with class and defensively with the bat. You know,
he wasn't a trash talker, so he didn't rub people
the wrong way. He was just the perfect ambassador.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know that you're special when forty years forty one years,
like if you look at somebody who is remotely knowledgeable
about baseball in the Midwest and you say the Sandberg game, yes,
they'll know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well, it's been forty I was barely born when that happened.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm a full fledged, grown ass adult man. And yet
when I see the clip of that roll through, I mean,
I'm not even talking about yesterday like obviously was everywhere,
but I'm saying every year it'll pop up. You'll just
stop and watch him cranked bombs off Bruce Soiter, and
you know what's gonna happen, right, And.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Think about all the great players that have played baseball.
You know, there's not a Mickey Mantle game, There's not
a Johnny Bench game. Great players may have been better
than Rhino. I don't know we can debate that, but
that game, it was the national game of the week
when everybody would watch it on network television. I think
NBC Bob Costa's had the call. Great rivalry, Cubs and
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Cards packed, howels, Cubs were finally getting good, Rhino was
having an MVP season and I think he went like
five for six or four for five something like that.
Two bombs off one of the best closers in baseball,
Cubs win and extra innings, and that put him into
the stratosphere.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And it's the like baseball so different from every other sport.
The call is so legendary, you know the costas do
you believe it? This is a tie ball? Like I mean,
it's just it's just so. It's this perfect June day
in Chicago. It's those nasty awful Cardinals, and it's just
like it's so and it's like the crazy thing about
and this is when you know people were special. When
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we were talking about this with hul Cogan, you know,
a couple of days ago, like the memories that it
floods back and I was thinking this morning and by
the way I told Casey, I guess I told her
audience like ESPN did this fabulous video tribute to and
I think maybe Tim Kirchen was the narrator and it's
just phenomen like I just.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Totally lost it watching it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But like little things that you don't think of and
then you realize what a big part of your childhood
they were so when I was a kid, Roger Clemens
MVP Baseball was a Nintendo game like the original Nintendo
and for whatever deal they had, they got Roger Clemens
name to license. Right, he's the star of the game,
but they were too cheap to pay for the rest
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of the players.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
They sped it all on Roger.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the names were made up for each team, like
it was just Chicago, but they made the names close
enough to where you knew it, so like Mark Grace
was g Mace I think, and Ryan Sandberg was our
Berguson and you knew like the talent level the player
to like base three. But to me, in my mind
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every time as a kid, when I heard the name
Ryan Sandberg, I would think, that's Burguson on my on my.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Game.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
And it's such a trip down nostalgia lane.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We were kind of talking about this with Happy Gilmour,
you know, yesterday or the day before, and uh, you
know it just it's more than baseball.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Like if you grew up watching this kind of stuff,
if you're around my age or Rob's age, you grew
up watching these Cubs teams on television. It takes you
back to when you were younger and who you were with,
not necessarily even about the game. But I remember hanging
out with my grandparents and you know, they would go
to all my baseball games and if I had a
good day.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know at the plate, he'd call me Rhino.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
If I actually pitched and did well, Oh, Sudcliffe's out there,
like it just takes me back, and man, that one
hurts right, and we knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He had been rumored to be in bad shape for
a while.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Beat it at one point was in complete remission, but
then it came back very aggressively.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know what's crazy about him too.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So one of the things that I watch from AFAR
I think is interesting as people who collect stuff. So
I'm so enamored with Casey's husband because he's so into
collecting sports illustrated magazines. I don't collect things, but I
admire the people that do. And there's a group of
people who collect autographed baseball cards, Like they'll send a
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card in the mail like we used to do in
your kids.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's kind of weird grown adults.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Do it, but whatever, right, Yeah, And so I enjoy
there's a whole like Facebook pages of people who will
do their submissions and up until like a few weeks ago,
people were still getting Ryan Sandberg autographed cards in the mail.
And it knew even signals like that is pretty cool
that even you know, guys clearly not doing well, people
up until, like I said, a few weeks ago, were
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still getting those cards back.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
In the mail.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Dude, he loved baseball and he loved being a part
of it. Right, and again, he was never one of these, hey,
I want to endorsement.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Deal with Gator eight people.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
But you'd always find him in Chicago, like a bunch
of my buddies that live up there.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
They would go to Murphy's at the Cubby Bear and
there's Rhino.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
It's just kind of hanging out like and anybody that
wants a picture, you know, he'll get it. He was
never a big timer to people and would go to
show up to these little leagues whatever. And I can't
imagine he's getting paid a lot of money or even
at all to do this kind of stuff. But he's like, yeah,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Screw it. They gave me a great life. And what
we kind of forget is even with these athletes, how
good they actually are at the sport. Right, Rhino was
an even better, dude.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
But if you go back and read about him in
high school, he was like all state and football, basketball,
and baseball. Could have played any sport in college that
he want, chose baseball and I think it worked out.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Won the nineteen ninety home run derby at Wrigley Field
because he was the only guy smart enough to realize
how big the win factored in.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And if the wind's blowing in, you gotta hit it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Low, baby, low, and slow baby, turn on it line
drive bombs coming up this afternoon, bo Duke. John Schneider
will join us. He's got a show coming up in Indy.
Jeff Boggs will join us and call a roulette this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Thanks Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC
One one of these parties political parties to get it together.
I mean, the public is right there for the taking,
you think, so, are they're right there for the taking?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Case?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, it looks like, according to the Wall Street Journal,
though the Democratic Party has a lot more to go.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I had a conversation with somebody recently about just this,
and it was.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The need we're.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Talking specifically about Indiana where the Democrats to get their
act together. And we've had this conversation on this program before,
which is the reason the Republicans behave as poorly as
they do. The spending, the crony capitalism, allowing people like
Diego Morales just to wander the state halls without any
semblance of accountability at five am, as anybody ever actually
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seen him there at five am, is because they know.
The Republicans know the Democrats are so radical and come
off as so radical and so unlikable and unelectable to
the public in this state. And when you factor in
the way they've gerrymandered the district, et cetera, that they're
basically invincible.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And as long as the.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Democrats make the Republicans invincible, we're going to keep getting screwed, right.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Because they have a super majority, they can do what
they want, they can continue to tax you all they want.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then if you extrapolate that out nationally.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now, obviously they're not super majorities in either the House
or the Senate, but the Republicans control all three levers
of government, the House, the Senate, the presidency, and the
Democrats gave that away there too because they just ran
as complete radicals. Nobody likes the Republicans, Nobody enjoys the
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Republican brand. Know, they're people who are invested in Trump
and the Trump brand, but that's totally separate from Republicans.
You saw that in the down ballot races in twenty
twenty four, where Trump would win a state and the
Senate guy or girl would lose. And now there's pulling
out showing how much people do dislike the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Okay, so speaking of that polling, this is from the
Wall Street Journal and is said only eight percent of
registered voters view the Democratic Party as favorably. Sixty three
percent say it's out of touch with Americans everyday concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
What's the favorable number?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Eight percent? No way, Yeah, it's the lowest level they've
had since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That is horrible, and you know you have.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Major issues. Well, that's let's be let's be specific. That's
very favorably. There are people who would view them some
a favorably, but we're talking about the hardcore in the
Democrat camp. According to Newsweing, only eight percent of registered
voters view the Democrat Party as very favorably. That is
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essentially meaning that you are losing twenty percent of your
own base doesn't view you very favorably.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Correct, that's bad.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Republicans lead on eight out of ten key issues, and
the top three include economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So this is always my question with polling, like when
you look at the base of your party, am I
considered the base of the Republican Party because I hate
the Republicans? But ideologically I am as in lockstep on
the party platform or the things they espouse to be
as anybody. Yet I hate them because they don't do
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the things that they claim. So like, do I count?
And I wonder on the other side, does the guy
on the left. Is there a bizarre world of that
with me where there's this uber liberal guy who's like, well,
I'm the base, but I hate the Democrats because they
don't do anything they claim to be for. Like, does
that exist on the other side of the aisle?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It probably does, But you're talking about polar opposites. I
don't know if you'd be the base of the Republican Party.
I think you'd be more of a base of a
conservative movement.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah. I don't have a home. That's part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I should get a spot out there over on Luger
Plaza because I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Almost panhandling for money. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, So the net favorability for the Democrats is negative thirty,
and I believe this is a Wall Street Journal poll
I think is that?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, okay, is net negative thirty?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Overall?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Only one third voters express any positive sentiment towards the party.
And I don't know how they recover from this.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well. They keep saying this is a messaging problem, and
I don't think it is a messaging problem. I think
most people understand their message, and that's the problem. It's
the wrong message.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, you ran so far to the left on stuff
that the American people.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Like politics. And I tell people this all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I had a conversation yesterday or a couple days ago
with a guy who I've had two conversations with people
who are considering running for public office, and I do
the same thing now. I am James earld Owns and
Field of Dreams. What I desire to be is left alone.
Don't ask for my endorsement. Micah and Braun ruined that
basically for everyone forever. But I told these people, they said,
I will advise you on what I would do because
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you seem like decent people, and then I'll wait to
see if you you screw everybody over and then rip
you accordingly.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Tell them to use your your phrase. I'm I don't
want any more of your stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
If Yeah, if I were running for public office next year,
my sign would be I want less of your stuff.
That's what the slogan would be, and anybody, any candidate
can use that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You should credit me for it, but you may use
that on your campaign sign, I want less of your
stuff And people would love that look in primary Can
you imagine the tagline I want less of.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Your stuff and then their name and then your name.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, but I told, I told you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We were talking about just, you know, a variety of
things in terms of running for public office, and one
of the things that these politics. The problem is good
people don't really run, so they don't really have to
bring an a game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
They don't have to step up.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It's just they can run on They can just run
on name idea, and then the party will come and
give them a bunch of money and save them if
they've been good.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Little boys or girls.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But he said, we were talking about, you know, running
for office and messaging, and I said, one of the
things is nobody knows how to message. Nobody understands how
to get the election down to three or four bullet
points and then message it effectively. And the problem for
the Democrats is if we're running a three or four
bullet point election, which whether it's nationally or locally, for
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most people, it is a three or four bullet point election,
their messaging and the thing that they've gone all in
on is insanity, like the idea that they are still
wed to treating illegal immigrants better than US citizens, which
that guy who got shipped to whatever foreign country it
was that the Trump administration said was in the gang,
whether he was or wasn't, the American public looks at
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that and goes, look at you politicians going to the
ends of the earth for this guy who most people,
I think believe there's something going on with that guy.
Whether what exactly it is, don't know, but they're like, look,
you're going to foreign countries to meet with this guy.
What are you doing for us? What do you do
the whole thing about. They're all still in on little
kids being able to chop off their penises, boys deciding
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they could be girls girls Like it's things that the
public you've lost the public on, and yet they go
all in on it. It's one thing to go uber
hard and maybe uber to one side or the other
on a thing that the public buys into.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Like you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If the public buys into your thing, you can go
hard on it and you go a little extreme on it.
Because people view you as a fighter on a thing
and the other side's not. You can get away with more.
This is insanity and the stuff the public is not
with it. It's the things they put front and center
and choose to be all in on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, it's a tip for the Democrats. They need to
put down the gender studies think pieces, pick up a
paycheck stub, talk to real people who are shopping out
at the grosser store and be a real human and
then until then it's not going to look good for
twenty six the Democrats, casey, real people are struggling with
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do I or do I not know these people better
than they know themselves? You do?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I am about to give the Democrats some totally free,
unsolicited advice. And if you listen to this, while you
won't be in control really of anything by November of
next year, if you do what I'm about to tell you,
you might actually have a path back to at least
not laughability.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In this state.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And what I'm about to tell you is this, and
I mean this with every fiber of my being. The
most important thing that will happen in the state next
year is if Diego Morales loses his reelection for Secretary
of State. You have a once in a lifetime opportunity
with a guy who by the day gets more despised
by the electorate, including people in his own party, because
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he is seen as a totally unethical, probably corrupt, complete
and utter buffoon who has utter disdain for the taxpayer
and is just there to better himself and the people
around him. And it is rumored that you have an
A plus potential candidate running against him. If you're a
Democrats in Evan Bye's son bo by no, whether he's
gonna pull this trigger on that, don't know, that's the
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big rumor.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's the best.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You're going to do. Diego is the worst you could
possibly run against. However, in order to build a coalition
that would give you the Secretary of State's office, which
would be a home run for you, guys have to
you have to eliminate the insanity around around bow Bye.
(09:41):
You have to eliminate that, which means the lunatic pink
haired people. Now, look, I know there's some people with
pink car who are not lunatic people, but you get
what I'm saying. The on demand abortion advocacy people gotta go.
The boys should be able to chop off their penises,
gotta go, men and women, sports people gotta go. The
climate lunatics gotta go. If you nominate normal people around
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the state for the State House and State Center races,
even if they lose, as long as they don't alienate
people and allow the focus to be on how completely
ridiculous Diego Morales is, you guys might be able to
win that election and have a path with something. Now
are they going to do that? Probably not, because they
can't help themselves.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But well, that's how you do it. Well.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
The thing with bi is he's got the name recognition.
He also has the financial backing to make it work.
He just needs to take a more centrist, populous view
on things and be clear, concise, and consistent. It's the
entire run.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He will He's not going to be Destiny Wells running
on on demand abortion advocacy.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
If he runs, he will be a good candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But what you can't have is in some place named
Ville or Berg, some totally leftist lunatic running for state
Senate that alienates the populace who reminds them, yeah, Diego
might be totally totally corrupt. But can't have that in
there and be costing the guy votes. That's what you
can't have. And so the onus comes on the party
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to say, hey, we can actually win this one. We
can actually beat this guy, and this is a big one.
We might have a chance to win a big one
if we just act normal.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Just don't even run.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Candidates, don't run anyone, just run everybody with that guy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you've got to talk about the bread and butter
issues that actually affect people in their wallet. Talk about
the crime, inflation, immigration, That's what people want. They want
results that not this rainbow flag legislation that comes with
a ten page glossary on pronouns like understand the moment
in which you're running and then you might actually have
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a chance. And here's another piece of advice. You always say,
do the three big things on the door, knock or
and then that's it. Right. Here's one and that's the clear, concise, consistent.
Here's one other one. This is marketing, one on one, expectation, realization, memory,
Tell me what you're gonna do. Do it, Remind me
what you did. It's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We gotta welcome the fake news Indy Star to the party.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Headlines. We've got so much to get to later.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm gonna read you two headlines that have just popped
up over an indie star. And because this dumb ass
decided he was gonna fight with the two most powerful
media outlets in the city, US and the Star headline
one Diego Morales's companion on India Trip promoted EB five
visas while being paid by state. I wonder who he's
talking about there headline two, our old pal James Briggs.
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Diego Morales' work ethic isn't the problem, it's his corruption.
So we'll have so much Diego stuff to talk about
because that guy can't keep his big yapper shut and
he wants to fight, so we're more than happy to
give it to him and our old pals at the
Star getting on board.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You got to wonder if you knew these articles were
coming out, which is why he threw Indie Star into
the soup with us.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
No, I think he got mad at Indie Star because
Star did a big X was a on his campaign donation.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh that's who did he go after? When?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
After us and the Star because we were talking about
the campaign donations. Okay, I have a social media etiquette
question for you, Casey Kem. You can get in on
this too. You're a young person, your vibrant, you're full
of life, and you're closest to the young.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
People in our society.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, how old is too old to be posting about
your relationships on social media?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, if you're getting married or something, I don't think
it's you can never be too old, like, you know,
you want to celebrate that with friends and family right now.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, no, no, I'm talking about like the rank and file.
This is who I'm dating, This is who I'm not dating.
Tony and I have broken up, or Saul and I
it just didn't work out, or you know, Laura and
I are no, Like how how old is too old
to be telling me who you're dating on social media?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Telling the world how old are you? Kevin? You're thirty,
I'm thirty. Yeah that's the age.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I think it's way younger than that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I think that's like middle school behavior.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
To post your relationship statuses. Well, if you're posting about
the drama.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The breakup, yeah, I don't know that. If you're crying online, Yeah,
why are you putting that out there?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Keep that off?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Because can't you select private? Just certain people can find
that information? Sure, Like why do you have to tell
the world?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But why does any Okay, So, because I see this
still quite a bit from people my age ish where
you know, Jimmy and I are no longer together, Emily
and I have decided to part ways, Okay, But then
every so often you'll see the we got back together
posts and it's like, again, I used to revel in
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those posts in my early twenties when Facebook first became,
and think, is it meant somebody was back on the market, right?
I needed to know to know what the rules of
engagement we really You could just change your relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, people used to just do that. You could also
do that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You know, you used to in your early twenties when
Facebook was the college kid platform, live and die off
of the relationship posts. However, as you have entered your
late thirties or forties, or in some cases even I
see people in the older than that posting about it.
That is too old for me to care about your
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relationship staty switching.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Back and forth. Maybe the person is just trying to
block any awkward, you know, conversations, but you better make
sure before you put it out there for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Because if then you get back together, which I've seen
this on multiple occasions, right then it's like the where
the person the you know, I can't believe this scoundrel
did da da da da dah dah blah blah blah blah.
What am I supposed to hate this person? I don't
even know this person, I don't know whatever. But then
a couple weeks later, Hey, you know, here's just it's
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just like it's like an episodic television.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We just picked back.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Up, right, and don't we were on a break.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Don't I have to comment, don't have to say what happened?
I thought this guy was a you know, a piece
of you know what I mean. I can just let
that go, can't. I hate this person?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, you need to get in there. You forgave them.
Now you're messing with my most Oh, it wasn't that
bad after.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Roller coaster kick came.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So I am not incorrect in viewing people in their
late thirties, forties, whatever and saying, I am you are
too old to be telling me about your relationships. Yeah,
I think I'll get the picture when the guy just
stops showing up in your photos, right, I'll get the figure.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like, Okay, here's an example.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I noticed this the other day, some person who you
ever you ever get this kevi on social media or
casey where you just won't see someone for a while
and then all of a sudden something of theirs pops
up and you're like, I forgot that person was even alive?
Did Facebook change the algorithm?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Then you realize, know that person hadn't been posting, and
now they're posting again, and now they're posting minus one person.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Right. You know, I could put context clues.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Like if I haven't seen a poster me you since
twenty nineteen, and now here you are, look at me
at the gym, look at you, look.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
At I'm living my best life.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Especially when the posting is followed by a bunch of
inspirational quotes hang in there, it's a cat hanging from
a branch, like, hang in there.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I can put those and that's sort of probably the
appropriate way to do it. Clearly, that person didn't want
you having social media because men or women or whatever
would be engaging in commentary on your assemblage. And that's fine.
Now you're back. It's like the Happy Gilboar movie. It
took a while, but you're back on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Here you are.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You want people to know they engage with you again.
Now we can put it all together. That's the correct
way to go about it, no commentary required.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's interesting you bring this up because the average American
now spends ten point four hours a day doing what
being online? Ten hours a day?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, that seems about right. Okay, So I sleep, I
don't sleep. How many hours a day do you sleep?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Sleep?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Maybe maybe five?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you do you do take a nap in the
middle of the day, don't you?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah? I try to sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Because I've called Casey multiple times, including yesterday, in the
middle of the day. And here's the here's how it
here's how the answers Hello. What you knew I was
gonna call you?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, I know, which is why I made sure my
ringer was on Hello like I would.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I would.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you do got to go so collect collectively, you
do you think you take between five and six hours
a day of sleep collectively?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
With the nap, it's probably closer to seven.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. That's good because you got to get the you
gotta get the aid in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, I don't get the eight in.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, for sure. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You're so well preserved, very unhealthy. I understand that. So
the time split is almost evenly between streaming video content.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, they count five hours a day.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
General internet use five point four hours, So that includes browsing, shopping,
social media, email, paying bills, gaming, and remote work.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, time out.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So this is why I was going to say, Okay,
so if you said the person slept eight hours a day,
that means of the sixteen hours they're spending ten ten.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I do have a problem with this though, because by
that I watch I watch all the Chris Hansen stuff,
like probably at least an hour a day of old
stuff or whatever, just because I count.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But it's television.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
See but it's streaming, right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But see this, I don't watch television anymore. Everything I
have is streaming. So this is not fair to me
because if I had cable and they said all the
Chris Hansen reruns were on TBS, well, then I would
watch it on TBS. Am I a better person because
I'm watching it on TV. It's all on the streaming now.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm not glued to the Internet in the sense of
my phone, but I'll have it on while I'm working
out and stuff because i just love watching potential child
predators go to prison and I just love the interviews.
But I'm technically on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They're they're they're calling it. Yeah. So fifty five percent
stream via television, twenty percent use mobile phones, twenty five
percent use laptops, desktops or tablets.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, we got to take a break because we have
So the Star took a huge.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Giant dump all over Diego, Morales, double shot dump Kevin
Cue up the chicken sauce.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Right, yeah, it's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Hey, our old pals at the Indie Star are asking
one of the most important questions the Indiana Secretary of
State will not answer, which is what does Raju Shinhala
do for his massive taxpayer funded contract with the state?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Great piece right now, now, Look.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Briggs has a has a James Briggs friend of the show,
has an opinion piece on Diego. We were going to
do both of these together, but I thought, why just
dump on Diego for one segment when we can dump
all over in for two. So next hour we'll get
into the Briggs Diego. You wanted to fight, buddy, you
want to fight, You got the fight.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't know if he wanted to fight. I know
he wanted to do things and not be questioned.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
This is and and the title of just to tease
what we'll get into Briggs, because it's a perfect headline,
Diego Morales's work ethic isn't the problem, it's his corruption. Yeah,
and we'll get into that later. But from a straight
news perspective, Haley Colombo has the peach. You can see
it now at ed Indy Starr on One of the
questions that we have asked for the past four months
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is what does this guy Raju Shinhala, who has I
believe was eighty thousand dollars state contract with Diego Morales's office,
what does he do for this money?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah? He was paid eight thousand dollars a month for
a ten month contract. And that was when when I
no big contract.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
By the way, yes, and we.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Have now seen Indy reporter, I think was the guy
who got the con tract and put it out what
he's supposed to be doing, and none of that appears
to have anything to do with what the Secretary of
State's office actually is.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
When I asked Diego directly about it, Diego said he
works in the business services division. I said, what does
that mean? He checks on the businesses? I said, what
do you mean? He checks on the businesses like there's
hundreds of thousands of businesses in this state. Does he
go to every door, Hey, is everyone okay in there?
Are you guys all right? What we do know, and
(22:29):
this is what the article centers around, is that Raju
went with Diego to India.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes, on this mysterious.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Trip economic development trip ten days where Diego won't tell
anybody who paid for the trip.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
We also know, according to various social media posts of
the people who were in India at the time, that
a venture capitalist went with Diego and Raju as well.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And by, and this is the center part of the article.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Raju was bragging about selling EB five visa access with financing, yes,
while he was in India, And he just happened to
say he was going to be in the same place
where the Star report of Diego met with the mayor.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Correct, Like, you don't have to be a.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Rocket scientist to start putting all this together. That a
secretary of State disappears for ten days to a foreign
country doing something that he has no statutory authority to do,
and some guy with a mysterious state contract goes with him,
and oh, that guy's also selling EB five visa access
while he's there, and there just happens to be a
venture capitalist on the trip. With him like, you don't
have to be a rocket scientist to go Hey, there's
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some red flags here.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah. Absolutely so. In a March social media post, Rajuchinhala
posted that he would be in Hyderabat until March twenty
ninth if you'd like to meet to discuss EB five
and he also said hurry, they're going fast.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So what was interesting was I guess the star Haley
Columbo got a hold of Raju and he said, quote,
at all times, I remain mindful of the importance of
transparency and integrity in public service.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, you haven't tell us who paid for the trip, Raju?
Who paid for Diego to go to India?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Who paid for you to go to Indian Who paid
for the venture capitalists to go to India? Who paid
for the tripp to India? That's transparency, that's integrity.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
He said it was primarily a personal visit, but acknowledged
that he quote did assist in the planning and coordination
of the Secretary's conference attendance and other various meetings.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
So he's admitting, Raju, he's double dipping.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He is in India selling these EB five visas, which
we know he's also then appearing to confirm I was
doing official contracted.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Duties, whatever those are.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And you don't have the right to know who paid
for this guy to get there. You don't have the
right to know who paid for Diego to get there.
And you don't have the right to know how this
venture capital guy factors into all of this. You don't
have the right to know it.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So Raj Dudchinhala he started promoting the EB five efforts
in late February, and it was on a now deactivated
Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Julia Vaughan, who's with the group Government is Common Cause Indiana.
They're a government watchdog group. I thought her quote was
very interesting. She said, it's a bit like double dipping.
It appears the Secretary of State likes to surround himself
with people who certainly aren't afraid to mix personal business
with the state's business. You can't serve two masters. Well,
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it's not appropriate setup to ensure the citizens get what
in this case Raju is getting paid for. We don't
know what Raju is getting paid for. And with Diego,
it is one red flag after another, over and over
and over and over and over and over and over again.
And he acts like we're the bad guys for pointing
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it out, for asking the question. We want to know
who paid for this trip, and we want proof you
paid it back, and we want to know what this
guy Raju does for our money. See, the problem is
he doesn't view it as our money. He doesn't give
a damn about your money. He's gonna do whatever he's
gonna do. And he is using your money to run
a twenty four to seven campaign operation.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
He's using state tax money to run a twenty four
hour a day, seven day a week campaign operation.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, and Chinhala said that his activities were educational and
unrelated to the state when he was there.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And this Lindsey Eton woman who responds to all of
these emails, she's the communications woman.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I want to feel bad.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I want to feel bad for her, but she knows
who she works for exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So quit carry in the water.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And Lenny's responses are ridiculous, like that nonsensical response she
sent you and Tony about refusing to come on the
Diego's refusal to come on the show. Listen to this
and it's always the smell test, right, just you like,
does this sound right? The contractor They won't even say
his name.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I know they called him the contract Roger.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We know who he is. Rajushinhala is the guy's name.
That's his name.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Was not exclusively employed by the office, or subject to
restrictions on other activities or engagements, or privy to confidential information.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
How do we know?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
We don't know anything about this trip. You know what
we know about this trip what people in India who
are in attendance posted about public events.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's it. That's what we know about this trip.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
M M. And they act like like that is such
an insulting response to the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She should be ashamed of herself.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The contractor. That's where we should call him from now on.
The contractor sounds like a movie.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So good job on the indie star on digging into this,
Good job on them asking the hard questions. Everybody should
go read that article because the Secretary of State is again.
The headline from Briggs is perfect and we'll get into
it next hour. Because he takes a blowtorch to this guy.
Morales's work ethic isn't the problem, it's his correct and
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everything Diego does, everything Diego does is about himself.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I mean, they've created a law to stop the no
bid contracts because it was getting out of hand.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It is just unbelievable that the Republican Party Braun Rokeeda,
Rokeeda knew what he was. That's why the paperwork showed
that when Diego worked for Roketi, he fired him.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
He was fired, and now he's turning around endorsing him.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Braun.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Why what happened there?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Braun?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Rokeeda Micah Mike is the worst of them all. Because
Michael went on this radio show, No, I have such concerns,
I'm so worried about India. Yes, he needs the answer.
And then where's he ended up with at the NBA Finals?
Go to a basketball game with the guy? Then you
got the Speaker of the House, Houston, you got Rod Bray.
All these people know what he is. They all have
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the ability to do something about it. They all have
the ability to four saints. Braun could put an end
to this tomorrow. Mike Braun could put an end to
this tomorrow by instructing the state Police to launch a
thorough investigation into this guy. They could get all the
answers that everybody's asking for. There's a reason Braun won't
do it, and I bet it's the same reason he
won't come clean on what happen with Tom Kleinelter or
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the new state police superintendent, because they ain't gonna look good.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And only he's not gonna look good for Braun.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
In this case with Diego, it's not gonna look good
for all these people. Where the money that touches Diego
touches these other politicians.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Let's just say the quiet part out loud. They know
what Diego is, Rokeeda.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Knows, Micah knows, Braun knows, Houston knows, Ray knows, the
entire building knows what that guy is.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And nobody will do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Because money that touches him touches so many other people.
And instead of doing what's right for you, instead of
raising their hand and saying, you know what, I'm gonna
do the right thing. Money be damned, political career be damned.
Look at how egregious the behavior that this guy is.
We're gonna do the right thing and get to the
bottom of this. They just sit there silently and allow
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it to continue.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're listening to Kennelly Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Jason Hammer from the number one rated hammer in Nigel
Show joins us now and I know you, like me,
are a massive Chicago Cubs fan, and a rough day
for Cubs fans everywhere. I think you would say arguably
the most beloved Cubs certainly of the modern era.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The cable TV era.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Right right when cable TV first really started becoming mainstream.
You know, it was the superstation WGN. Those were the stations, right, TBS, WGN.
All the Braves games were on TBS, All the Cubs
games were on WGN.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So by default, if you were a sports.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Fan at all, you started to identify with a lot
of these people because they were on your TV all
the time. And as a Cub fan like Ryan Sandberg
was part of the group that was like my babysitter
growing up, because I'd go to my grandparents house. Both
of my parents worked, so I'd go to my grandparents'
house and they got this new thing called cable television,
so they plopped me right down in front of that den.
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Harry Carey, Steve Stone, and Rydo were basically my babysitters
growing up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know, it's weird, Like Case said I were talking
about earlier to start the show, the Sandford thing. It
feels like a massive deal because you're right, millions of
people saw this guy every day because there were so
few options. I mean, obviously Cable you had, you know,
fifty sixty channels, but in terms of if you wanted
to watch baseball nationally, you really did have two options.
(31:34):
And the Cubs, because they were Chicago, had such a
loyal following that so many people. He was such an
integral part of their childhood.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And he was the perfect ambassador for it right like,
right place, right time. You could say the same thing
about hal Cogan right right place, right time when Cable
first started going into the mainstream. Hal Cogan was this
bigger than live character. And you know, USA was the
benefit factor of that same thing with WGN.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Here's this good looking guy.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Chicks dig him, Guys like him because he's an amazing
ballplayer on a team that's honestly not very good. You know,
the whole time Rhino was in Chicago, I think they
made two playoff runs.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
They had some awful teams, but he was really good.
Handled everything with class and defensively with the bat. You know,
he wasn't a trash talker, so he didn't rub people
the wrong way. He was just the perfect ambassador.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know that you're special when forty years forty one years,
like if you look at somebody who is remotely knowledgeable
about baseball in the Midwest and you say the Sandberg game, yes,
they'll know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well, it's been forty I was barely born when that happened.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm a full fledged, grown ass adult man. And yet
when I see the clip of that roll through, I mean,
I'm not even talking about yesterday like obviously was everywhere,
but I'm saying every year it'll pop up. You'll just
stop and watch him cranked bombs off Bruce Soiter, and
you know what's gonna happen, right, And.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Think about all the great players that have played baseball.
You know, there's not a Mickey Mantle game, There's not
a Johnny Bench game. Great players may have been better
than Rhino. I don't know we can debate that, but
that game, it was the national game of the week
when everybody would watch it on network television. I think
NBC Bob Costa's had the call. Great rivalry, Cubs and
(33:26):
Cards packed, howels, Cubs were finally getting good, Rhino was
having an MVP season and I think he went like
five for six or four for five something like that.
Two bombs off one of the best closers in baseball,
Cubs win and extra innings, and that put him into
the stratosphere.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And it's the like baseball so different from every other sport.
The call is so legendary, you know the costas do
you believe it? This is a tie ball? Like I mean,
it's just it's just so. It's this perfect June day
in Chicago. It's those nasty awful Cardinals, and it's just
like it's so and it's like the crazy thing about
and this is when you know people were special. When
(34:03):
we were talking about this with hul Cogan, you know,
a couple of days ago, like the memories that it
floods back and I was thinking this morning and by
the way I told Casey, I guess I told her
audience like ESPN did this fabulous video tribute to and
I think maybe Tim Kirchen was the narrator and it's
just phenomen like I just.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Totally lost it watching it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But like little things that you don't think of and
then you realize what a big part of your childhood
they were so when I was a kid, Roger Clemens
MVP Baseball was a Nintendo game like the original Nintendo
and for whatever deal they had, they got Roger Clemens
name to license. Right, he's the star of the game,
but they were too cheap to pay for the rest
(34:42):
of the players.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
They sped it all on Roger.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the names were made up for each team, like
it was just Chicago, but they made the names close
enough to where you knew it, so like Mark Grace
was g Mace I think, and Ryan Sandberg was our
Berguson and you knew like the talent level the player
to like base three. But to me, in my mind
(35:08):
every time as a kid, when I heard the name
Ryan Sandberg, I would think, that's Burguson on my on my.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Game.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
And it's such a trip down nostalgia lane.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We were kind of talking about this with Happy Gilmour,
you know, yesterday or the day before, and uh, you
know it just it's more than baseball.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Like if you grew up watching this kind of stuff,
if you're around my age or Rob's age, you grew
up watching these Cubs teams on television. It takes you
back to when you were younger and who you were with,
not necessarily even about the game. But I remember hanging
out with my grandparents and you know, they would go
to all my baseball games and if I had a
good day.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know at the plate, he'd call me Rhino.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
If I actually pitched and did well, Oh, Sudcliffe's out there,
like it just takes me back, and man, that one
hurts right, and we knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He had been rumored to be in bad shape for
a while.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Beat it at one point was in complete remission, but
then it came back very aggressively.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know what's crazy about him too.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So one of the things that I watch from AFAR
I think is interesting as people who collect stuff. So
I'm so enamored with Casey's husband because he's so into
collecting sports illustrated magazines. I don't collect things, but I
admire the people that do. And there's a group of
people who collect autographed baseball cards, Like they'll send a
(36:30):
card in the mail like we used to do in
your kids.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's kind of weird grown adults.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Do it, but whatever, right, Yeah, And so I enjoy
there's a whole like Facebook pages of people who will
do their submissions and up until like a few weeks ago,
people were still getting Ryan Sandberg autographed cards in the mail.
And it knew even signals like that is pretty cool
that even you know, guys clearly not doing well, people
up until, like I said, a few weeks ago, were
(36:55):
still getting those cards back.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
In the mail.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Dude, he loved baseball and he loved being a part
of it. Right, and again, he was never one of these, hey,
I want to endorsement.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Deal with Gator eight people.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
But you'd always find him in Chicago, like a bunch
of my buddies that live up there.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
They would go to Murphy's at the Cubby Bear and
there's Rhino.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
It's just kind of hanging out like and anybody that
wants a picture, you know, he'll get it. He was
never a big timer to people and would go to
show up to these little leagues whatever. And I can't
imagine he's getting paid a lot of money or even
at all to do this kind of stuff. But he's like, yeah,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Screw it. They gave me a great life. And what
we kind of forget is even with these athletes, how
good they actually are at the sport. Right, Rhino was
an even better, dude.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
But if you go back and read about him in
high school, he was like all state and football, basketball,
and baseball. Could have played any sport in college that
he want, chose baseball and I think it worked out.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Won the nineteen ninety home run derby at Wrigley Field
because he was the only guy smart enough to realize
how big the win factored in.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And if the wind's blowing in, you gotta hit it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Low, baby, low, and slow baby, turn on it line
drive bombs coming up this afternoon, bo Duke. John Schneider
will join us. He's got a show coming up in Indy.
Jeff Boggs will join us and call a roulette this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Thanks Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC
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