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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He was the last Republican to run the city of Indianapolis,
and now he has a book talking all about it.
It is The Kendall and Casey Show, and Rob Casey's
out today. Jerry Lopez inf Casey joined in studio. He
spent two terms as the mayor of the City of Indianapolis.
The great Greg Ballard, mister mayor, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Rob, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, So you have a new book out and it's
called Urban Republican Mayor My Story. Now we're gonna do
a little deep dive on the book. But one of
the things that's fasting about the book, and we're just
talking about this off.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Air, is the role that you give WIBC.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Greg Garrison in particular credit to for you becoming the
mayor of the City of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He was absolutely critical when no one was paying attention
to me in O seven, he kept having me on
the his show, which is a massive audience. It's something
you're familiar with.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, thank you. I'm gonna record that and I'm gonna
start using that in the promo.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the and you know, since my opponent wouldn't come on,
I kind of had free reign to come in and
he really helped me. And I was, you know, as
you can read in the book, it's I was a
little naive, a little unpolished, and that's okay. But he
helped me through those times, helped me through the radio certainly.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So most many long time HOOSI result will know the
story of you, but it's an incredible story. You were
elected mayor of the city in Indianapolis two thousand and seven,
and you were just sort of the guy who raised
your hand and said, okay, I'll draw the short straw
this cycle and I'll run. And you were this just
kind of obscure military guy, and then you shocked the
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world and became the mayor. Just can do you remember
election night where you like, oh crap, I won? Like
what was it like when the.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Final folks were Actually I was not shocked, and I
remember the journey so well, and I'm so I'm so
glad that I got it down before before my memory
goes right. So I'm glad I got it down in print.
But no, I would have been shocks if I'd lost
that night. Really, oh yeah, the last two weeks I
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thought it was mine.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That is interesting. What what turn the tide, because there's
usually a moment any person who runs and wins, there's
kind of a moment where like, Okay, as long as
I turn out, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What was that moment for you?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I didn't know that there was that moment because we
had no polling numbers, we didn't have any money money.
I remember my opponent had four million bucks and at most,
and this was just in the last two weeks of
the campaign. I had two hundred thousand, but with a
month ago, I had like less than fifty thousand. Yeah,
and I've been working hard trying to raise money, but
it was clearly it was not going to happen. So
I had to have an alternate strategy. But the last
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two weeks I was pretty confident. I told somebody, you
probably know, four days before the election, you're going to
be the first call after the election, and he said
he'd be honored to take it. Because I was really
confident in that point. Because I'm not exaggerating this, I
had over one hundred Democrats whisper in my ear or
telling me silently because they couldn't say it publicly, And
they said it just like this. I've never voted for
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a Republican of my life, and I'm voting for you.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Was the was the property tax thing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The issue that was the entry point, that was not
the final point.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It got me a little bit of recognition, didn't really
because it's really a kind of a state issue. However,
four years previous to that, that was a bit of
an issue and not a lot was done about it
at that time. So when it came up again and
they had the tea parties and property tax bills being
thrown in the White River and all that, I was there. Yeah,
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I wanted all the visibility I could get because I
was getting no visibility at all. So uh, but then
when they raised the income taxes sixty five percent in August,
three months before the election, on top of the property
tax flascow that was going on all summer long.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That when that happened, there's a Lopez you'll appreciate this,
Terry Lopez in for Katya. Remember in the scene and
Animal House where the playboy with the girl like falls
to the guy's window, the kid's window while he's reading
the playboy, and he just looks up and goes, thank
you God. When they raised the income Texas was that
you did you go, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But again I'm not sure that was quite it. It
certainly those two on top of each other got to
what I think might have been a culminating point in
the military terms budget night, city County council president locked
the doors. So people were angry. They wanted to get
in and say their thing. The I got I actually
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got into the council session. I mean I was there.
I got there early enough, and I got in there.
Then they overflowed into the ticket or they overflowed into
the halls, and then it was I remember it's ninety
five degrees now hot in humid August. It locked the people.
That door is never locked, but it was locked that night,
and that became a real issue because the press they
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were covering some press were covering inside, lots of press
were covering outside that the people were locked out of
the People's building.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
So as you being the last Republican mayor of the city,
and the way that it's looking, Republicans have an uphill
fight to ever try to win the city back. What
can we do better to give us a fighting chance
here in a city that you really helped And one
two elections in which is unheard of these days.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, that's a great party. It was a democratic city
when I won too. I must remember that. They say
it's more democratic now, Okay, that's true, but I I,
you know, I it's tough to say this, but at
the rhetoric at the federal level, and what's happening at
the federal level hurts Republicans in the cities. It just does.
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And there are two out of the top twenty five
cities in America that are run by Democrats, and they're
in the South, and they're largely Republican cities as opposed
to democratic cities. Try to find a Republican in a
democratic city right now, and I think you're going to
come up blank. So that didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you'd think it makes it harder for guys like you, because,
let's face it, you do to some level have to
run a middle ish type of campaign. It's a nuts
and bolts campaign. It's roads, it's bridges, it's snow removal,
it's public safety. But you think that the federal rhetoric
hurts the ability to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I do. And you could run the middle ground, and
which is Okay, I'm not sure that's good necessarily get
you there. There has to be some I was lucky.
I was. I'm very open. I was the million to
one shot and it happened to me. Yeah, that's just
the way it was, and I got that. But I
took advantage of it. I didn't make the big mistake
going into it. But going back to the rhetoric is
cities are built differently than suburbs and rural areas. There
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are lots of different minorities, a lot of ethnicities in there,
and sometimes, frankly, what we say at the as we're
trying to get elected in other areas, that filters down
and when it comes down to the cities, then that
doesn't play well and people have trouble voting that way.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Greg Ballard is our guest. He's the former two term
mayor of Indianapolis. Is a new book out, Urban Republican Mayor.
My story are all right? So how would you have
handled the riots of twenty twenty because I think that's
sort of the signature issue of like if hog sets
administration the past ten years was sort of an event,
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and you were so much better on public safety, right,
Like you look at the numbers, they're not even they're
not even closed, right, How would you have handled that
period of time?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I gotta be careful in how I say this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, you know, I come to the Kenney Casey the
wrong seale.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
If you want to be careful, Let's go back to
Ridey King in ninety two, Steve Goldsmith. Yeah, Bart Peterson
had his, I had Ferguson. Riots and cities are all
across the nation, not in Indianapolis, that's right, Not in
Indianapolis in any of those instances.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I think that's why people were shocked that it
happened here, not one night.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But two.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So I'm suggesting to you they wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, well, I don't think they would have. I don't
think they would.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Have because there are you know, you could there are
elements in place if you do the right things, the
elements and place where you can let people have their say.
Let them what we did on Ferguson and Goldsmith did differently,
and you can just let them have you know, you
can do it in another way, so that doesn't get
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How did you keep like I remember towards the end
of your second term, because.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
People like not only did you win, you got re elected.
I did in a blue city. How did you except
for what there was?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And my numbers were in the seventies? Wow, heading into
a third term.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, you screwed the city by not running again. I
hope you're a happy pal. Hey, by the way, I thought,
I told I told the mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I said, by the time you get done with this
interview today, my goal is that you're going to uh,
You're going to call our friend Mark Diedle, sell that
nice house you got in White's Town, and move back
to the city to run for a run for a
third time third term.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh was there a reason you o?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, I want to ask you about the violence, because
I remember towards the end of your second term there
was numbers were over one hundred and we were like,
oh my gosh, these numbers are getting so high. We
would give an extremity to go back to those numbers
you had in terms of homicides in your administration.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, that's as I describing the book. I think pretty well,
the numbers were in the one hundred and fifteen one
hundred and thirty range when I took office. By two
thousand and nine, they were in the nineties four straight years.
You can go back thirty forty years, you'll only find
four years in the nineties, and they were they were
mine in a row. Then the Castle changed what we
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were doing because the Castle leadership changed, I wasn't able
to do what I wanted to do at the level
it was.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then did they ever tell you why, Well, they
just didn't like that there were few people getting murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
What well, I'm sure they didn't see it like that,
but they did. They the what we call the crime
prevention money started going different places. Yeah, and uh, and
I think that had a major effect on what was happening.
That said, you know, we kind of had had a
little bit of rough Yere's not not in the two
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hundreds or anything like that, just over one hundred, and
then by fifteen actually with Troy Riggs, we kind of
had it back. And you may not remember this. I
remember all of this clearly, but through the end of
May in twenty fifteen, we had like forty one forty
two murders, which is on an angle basis pretty pretty low.
Especially and because I remember this specifically, and I hope
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nobody from Baltimore is listening, but I mean we had
as many murders through May as Baltimore had in May.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, well it's like like this and this will shock you,
mister Mayor. I used to really like to drink and
coming downtown was one of my favorite places. I can remember.
This was fifteen, we're still Mayor. I can remember walking
like from mass av all the way back to downtown.
I would never do that today and you didn't even
think of the thing about it at three in the morning,
just you know, walking through the graild downtown.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I remember weekends we just drive around the circle listening
to music.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And nobody would get shot, right, So, like, how would
you hit? One of the big things now is the
youth that are out and you're just a curfews and
what are we going to do? And the find and
the what kind of you know, approached that because it's
hard for me to want to have the police be babysitters.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's lots of things we did differently, and there's it's
very well, I don't know if you read the Public
Safety chapter you got there yet or not, but it's
very detailed in what we did and it was very specific,
and I would suggested looking at that would make a difference.
I think that's right there, but I know it's really good.
(11:26):
But I always thought it was important to have somebody
in charge of public safety. We have a parks director,
we have a DM and D director, uh and but
the most important one, we don't have a public safety director.
And I thought that was absolutely critical. And to have
somebody not political at all, somebody who's going to come
in and do a really really good job because they
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do different things that listen to the police chief right
now is a great guy. I know, christ was a
lieutenant when I was the mayor. He was he was
a terrific guy, still is. But he's got an organization
run and he has law enforcement. Law enforcement's one element
of public safety. It's not the only element of public safety.
So somebody has to put all those other pieces together
so that it works together. And so I'm I'm suggesting
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that that's something to be looked at. Who who helps
you on the street really matters also.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay, And without revealing too much, just want people to
buy the book. Why did you decide not to run
for a third term?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It was similar to how when I left the Marine Corps,
I left on my own terms In the Marine Corps too.
After twenty three years. Actually we were I was physically
and mentally exhausted. I really was. And if I would
have had a year in between, I probably would have
done it again, gone again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like Michael Jordan, if you could have just take a
year baseball, you'd come back and being the.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Mayor something like that. But I was. I was a
and this goes back to, uh, you know, my my
marine days. If you if you can't do your if
you can't do your duty, then you need to get
out of there. And I didn't think I could do
be the mayor at the level that I had been
the last year your eight years. I didn't think I
could do it for another four years. And I thought, frankly,
I thought the citizens deserved somebody who could put their
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best effort in for the four years I was afraid
I could not.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, and I get that one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
If you do, and I've said this quite a bit,
if you do elected office right, you should be ready
to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
We were everywhere, Winnie and I were everywhere, and it
was very and we had a reputation for staying until
at night, and we were out six nights a week
every week for four years the first four years. We
cut it down like four or five nights the second
four years. But we were, we were, and I'm introverted,
and you got to get that. I'm an introverted guy,
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so I need to rest. Tended to take a lot
of Sundays off.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
All right, tell us where we can get the book
and make the sale. Why should people buy Urban Republican
Mayor my story?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, it's how I grew up and it was kind
of fun. I was joking the other there was somebody
else that my entire childhood is in eight pages, so
must not have been that dramatic. But it's a lot
of time in the Marine Corps, how it related to
how I was became the mayor, what that effect had
on me, And then there's about two hundred pages of
what we did in office, and there's some thoughts at
the end of it, also about Urban Republican Mayor about
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Urban Republicans.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, there's so much. There's so much great local stuff
in there. If you're just a fan of even if
you're not a government person, if you're just a fan
of Indianapolis history and local people and things, there's so
many things in there that are just just great that
I think people would really here.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There's a lot of stories in there and why we
did things.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, it's great, mister Mayor.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Always a pleasure to see you, and thank you for
spending a few minutes with us.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rob appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, it's Kenelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC Big News. Jerry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Somebody has won almost ten million dollars in the Greater
Columbus area and we need to be friends with them.
It's Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez in
for Casey. Find him on Twitter at Indian Spanglish. According
to our news gathering partners over at WISH TV, a
nine point nine million dollar Who's Your Loto jackpot for
(15:05):
Saturday's drawing was one with a ticket purchased at a
gas station and convenience store in Columbus. Now my question
to you, Jerry Lopez, if indeed you won nine point
nine million dollars, what would you do with it?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I think the first thing I'd do is probably set
away some money for the kids, little trust fun stuff
so if they can't really touch it.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, change my name and real pull out baby.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You would change your name.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You would not stay in the city and embrace the
I'd have a stage name, fame and power that would
come with no having that sort of cause.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Okay, that's not that much money by t I mean
it sucks.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's a lot of money for me, but like that's
not a lot of money by today's rich people standard.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, you got to take about forty percent of it
out for taxes, right when you're pulling in that sort
of money. Now, I don't know, we're operating with blinders
on here because I don't know if what the actual
you know, there's always the payout, do you take it
over time whatever. Let's say if you took the payout
and with taxes, let's just pick a number, right, Let's
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say you ended up.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
With four million dollars. Yeah, maybe that's realistic. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But for the purpose of this exercise, if you ended
up with four million dollars, that's a lot of money,
but it's not and it is life changing, but it's
not You're not in a generational wealth type of difference there.
I mean, you could blow it through four million pretty
fast if you're not careful.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Quickly, Okay, I mean four million is not that much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I still think even with four million dollars, I would
definitely have to rent the lock Miller building so I
could drop the way it would now be bronze sucks
giants sheet out of it like h and I might
rotate them like I think if I could rent the
So the lock Miller Building, for people don't know, it's
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a very famous It's an old building right in the
heart of what is that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is that Washington Street that it's on? No? Is that? Yeah?
Washington Street? Right, it's on Washington Street.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
They're directing the Gumment Center, Yeah, Jeffrey.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Cross from the Government Center and by the State House,
and so all the politicos for the most part, or
any of the government organs basically would see this throughout
the course of the day. It's a multi story building,
and I have proposed for years that if I came
into a large amount of money, one of the things
I would do would be to rent something on the
second floor, which would get me window access. So like
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Kramer in the Kenny Rogers Chicken episode on Seinfeld, I
could just drape giant bed sheets with sayings out of there.
And I think now for years we had said it
would be Holcombe sucks, and then I had Todd Young sucks.
There's so many of them. Now you got Braun, you
got Todd Young, you got Ji Banks, you got.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Rokita, you got Diego, you got Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Like, I would just have to have a rotating set
of bed sheets with a different person's name on it
every single day, seven days a week. And I think
for a period of time, maybe a year or so,
that's what I would do. At the a portion of
my money that would be a small person. I don't
think it'd be that much to rent part of the
second floor there to be able to.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Pull that off.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
If I hit, I'll give you money just to pull
it off. I mean, you have my word on that.
I want to see that.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And then other than that, like I mean, because you
would have to be somewhat cognizant of four million dollars
if I'm not careful, won't last me forever. I mean
you you could obviously do a lot of great things
with it and have a lot of fun with it.
But it's not like these people who win five hundred
million dollars in the in the lottery. Your life is
being changed you no longer have to worry that about things,
but you still got to be smart about it. Yeah,
it'll go quick, it'll go quick. And no, listen, we're
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talking about four million bucks. I'm setting aside a whole
lot less money now for the kids. That's look your kid, though,
Jaden is smart enough because he does the crypto that
he would figure out a way to make a lot
more money off of that money if you gave.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It to him.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Oh, that dude is chartering private jets now, yeah for athletes, right, Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, he's your son.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is going to be one of those guys that no
matter what he falls into, he will come out smelling
smelling like a rose and like a million dollars. All right,
let's take a let's take a break when we come back.
Got a couple of special guests. So obviously there's a
lot of talking about Epstein and sex trafficking, and the
reality is, while the Epstein stuff is totally abhorrent and
we should get the truth on that, human sex trafficking
is still a major problem, not just in this country,
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not just across the globe, but certainly right here in
Central Indiana. It is prevalent all over our country. It
is prevalent here in our state. And there's a great group.
We talk about them a lot. Their name is Project Rescue.
Most people know the money that I make off the
I Hate and I Love Rob Kendall t shirts from
the Hammer Nigel Store goes to Project Rescue. They've got
a big event coming up. They're partnering with our friends
at Life Church and they want you to be a
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part of it to help stamp out human sex trafficking
across the country. And it's a chance to visit the
Lucas Oil State. We'll talk about it coming up next.
Kennelly case Show ninety three.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Wibc Epstein is in the news all the time that
the reality is human sex trafficking is still very real
and it's happening not just across the globe, but in
this country and yes, right here in Central Indiana.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And there are local folks who are trying to do
something about it, and they've got a big event coming
up or you can be a part of it. It
is the Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today.
Jerry Lopez in for Casey and with us here in
studio pastors Nathan Peternell and Mike Milido of Life Church
and they are once again partnering with our friends at
Project Rescue. Now you know Project Rescue. I'm a big
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supporter of Project Rescue. That's where all the money that
I make off the I Hate and I Love Rob
Kendall t shirts from the Hammer and Nigel store goes
to and Project Rescue is a phenomenal organization that helps
stamp out human sex trafficking across the globe. Now, before
we get into the interview today, talk about this a
big event. Just a reminder Life Church they do advertise
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here on WIBC, and Guys, before we talk about this
big event that Life Church is doing with Project Rescue,
talk about why Life Church puts such an emphasis and
importance on Project Rescue and stamping out human sex trafficking.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
The Bible says in the Book of Micah, I've shown
the old man what is good and what the Lord
requires of you, but to do justly, to love mercy,
and to walk humbly with your God. And so when
you look at what's going on in our world, Christianity
should stand up and go hey not not. While I
was living I don't want I don't want it to
be seen that I never did something about the wickedness
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in my world. And you know, Jesus talks a lot
about Hey, I was I was sick in you and
you comforted me. I was, I was in the hospital,
you visited me. I was in a jail, you visited me.
So there's this side of our faith that requires us
to get up and do something. And so there are
more people today in slavery than ever in the history
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of the world. And so Project Rescue, which started in
a foreign you know, a foreign country across the world
and in Asia, is now I mean, they're rescuing women
and children all of the world. They don't just rescue
them out of it, but they totally change their lives
by showing them how they can live so they never
have to return to it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Mike, talk about the strong footprint the Project Rescue has
here in Central Indiana. Most of our longtime listeners know
all the money that I make off the I hate
Rob Kendall and I love Rob Kendall T shirt. Once
a year I got to get on hammer. I think
I've got a donation coming very soon.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Goes there.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Talk about the strong footprint that Project Rescue has here
in Central Indiana and why so many people are standing
behind it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, we've had a long partnership with Project Rescue. One
of the reasons why I think it resonates so well
here in Indiana is we know we had that issue
right here in Indiana as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Product, it's important to note that this is not something
that's just going on on border states or in foreign countries.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's happening right here.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
It's happening right here.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And when we have partnered with Project Rescue in the past,
it's also produced some results for efforts here, not today
as one of those organizations that's based here in Indianapolis
that we're able to partner with alongside with partnering with
Project Rescue to tackle the issue here and far. So
you know here in Indiana it's just near and dear
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to our hearts because we understand that has an impact
here as well as there.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Nathan.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
One of the things with human sex trafficking, because like
I said, it's all Epstein, right. People they think of
some guy taking little girls and flying them to an
island somewhere. Human sex trafficking happens in a variety of
ways and variety of forms. Can you talk a little
bit about what Project Rescue really focuses on.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, I mean, first off, you can't just go in
and tactically take all these people out of this. A
lot of the times, these little girls all over the world,
I mean Project Rescues do in ministry on four continents,
to do it over I think fifteen countries, thirty two cities.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
A lot of times.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
What you have to do is you have to just
present hope. You have to present that if you want
out of this, there is a way. Now they don't
think that's possible. That's why actually Project Rescue began with
people giving their children, these these little girl little girls. Basically,
in many cases, these kids are taken as young at
nine years old. Their virginity is sold because in Hinduism
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it says that if you get if you sleep with
a virgin, they can heal you of your sexually transmitted diseases.
So imagine that being the first experience of a little
nine year old girl, ten year old girl. That's where
they're sold. But then they're going to live in a
six six foot little brothel, and when they finally get pregnant,
their babies are going to be underneath of their of
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the bed that they're turning tricks on which they'll turn
that trick over and over ten ten times a day.
And so Project Rescue, you know, it's invisible chains that
hold these people in place. They don't know where else
am I going to go? What else could I possibly do?
How else can I feed my child? And so Project
Rescue comes alongside and says, first off, we literally set
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up medical places within the brothels and we say just come,
just come, we'll p for you. It starts there, and
then after that, eventually they may get to a point
where they go, you know what I would like to
be free. Well, you still have to take care of
that person in their body. You have to take care
of their soul, their mind, the rule, and their emotions
and their spirit. And Project Riscue does the whole work
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of that to make sure that these girls will never
have to go back to that old life.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Mike Nathan hits on a good point with the human
sex trafficking. It's not just we've got these girls that
are hidden somewhere. It's many of these people who are
adults who are found. You've got to give them a
reason to leave the to leave the lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, you've got to earn their trust actually, And I
had the privilege a couple of years ago of visiting
Project Rescue in India and they were opening a new
safe house. And while I was there, I visited several
of those all over the country, and one of them
that I remember in particular, it was one of their
first safe houses, and a gentleman and his wife who
are running it, leaned over to me one night and said,
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we're on our third generation. These little kids are growing
up with no idea of what trafficking is. And he
was so pleased to say that. The next day, I
was at a safe house where they were just opening,
and the plan was to spend the next year earning
trust enough to maybe start to help them a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But they have that.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Proven success over and over and over again, and they're
committed from start to finish, and their vision is not
only to rescue these young women, but that they would
become leaders of their nation.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Our guests, if you're just joining us, Nathan Peter, now
Mike Malito with Life Church. We're talking about Project Rescue,
which is a great organization here in Central Indiana that
fights human sex trafficking. Of course, this is all in
the news now because of Epstein, But whether Epstein's did
whatever or with us or not, human sex trafficking remains
very real and Life Church, along with Project Rescue, we're
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trying to stamp that out here in Central Indiana, across
the country and across the world. All Right, So Nathan,
you guys have a big event. It's an annual event
that you do that the public can be a part of.
If they're passionate about what's been going on with Epstein,
if they've been learning about this and are outraged as
people should be right here in Central Indiana, they can
make a difference.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah, I think you start. You start somewhere right, start
with the people that are actually doing something, and then
you know this, this is so big in the world,
we're gonna we have to continue adding things. So one
of the things that Life Church has has has done
is the Hope Starts Here Breakfast. It's gonna be on
September eighteenth. It's a Thursday morning, and it's actually we
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we partner with with some of our awesome partners like
the Lucas family and they allow us to use their
place and the Lucas Estate. Yes, this event is that
the Lucas Estate is at the Lucas Estate.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
See, that would be great for me because no one
would ever let me into the Lucas Estate unless I
went with an event like this.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
It's a it's a beautiful place. And we just thank
them so much for their for their partnership because you know,
just just to have them also believe in what's going on,
it's just a great joy. But we we meet, we're
actually this year gonna hear from one of the young
ladies whose lives was totally changed by it.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
She's gonna be coming in.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
It's gonna be it's gonna be phenomenal. And you know,
we're just if you have a heart to see that
which is that was just evil stamped out. If if
if you, if you have a gift of giving, if
your business is one that you're like, you know what
I want to give because because I believe in giving,
I know the power of giving. But I want to
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give to organizations that are vetted that I know the
maximum amount of every dollar is gonna go to this.
Then Project Rescue is an easy win for you because
I mean in some ways, if your heart doesn't open
to to this plague in our world, it's like, well,
what what really would move you? But I really believe
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that generosity we saw that in our church, just a
spirit of unbelievable generosity that got released. And we want,
we want people to give with us because it's about
it's about it's about setting people free. On I think
about you know, we all sing that song Amazing Grace
houd Sweet, the sound that saved a wretch like me,
that was written by a slave trader whose life was changed.
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We're not just we're not just seeing the kids set
free and the women set free. We're seeing the madams
and the pimps literally come to know Jesus.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's the Hope Starts Here Project Rescue Breakfast fundraiser. It's Thursday,
September eighteenth at seven point thirty. It's totally free to attend.
You get to go to the Lucas Estate again. For
someone like me, this will be your only opportunity to
ever get in without some burly security guard X, you know,
excusing you from the premises.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
If people want to know more about this, if they're
driving down the road to going this sound is great,
but I need some time to process this. How can
they learn more about this?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Absolutely, if you're wanting to learn more, you can text
the word breakfast to three one seven nine six one
eight three three zero. Even if if you think you
just want to go and literally learn more and find
ways later to get involved, it would be awesome to
have you and you would be inspired.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But there is no amount too small.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
If you think of it this way, it seems like
an insurmountable issue, but just think about the one, the
one that gets rescued, the difference that makes for that one,
and when Project Rescue, when they rescue one, it kind
of snowballs and that whole community starts to come. So
you get to be a part of that. So you
can text the word breakfast to three one seven ninety
six one eighty three point thirty to register and it's free.
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You'll get more information there and of course at the breakfast,
and of course breakfast is also free at the Lucas estate.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
As you said, that's right. So here's what we'll do again.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
The number to text breakfast three one seven nine six
one eight three three zero. I'm going to take a
photo of this card, the promo card, I'll put it
up at Robin Kendall on Twitter and you can see
it there too. If we while you're operating heavy machinery
or a motor vehicle, we don't want you to be
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to be writing or texting while driving, so we'll put
it up there as well. And guys, I just think
this is such a phenomenal event. Like I said, been
a big supporter of Project Rescue for a long time.
And Nathan, I'll give you the last word on this.
If you're mad about your government not being honest with
you about Epstein, if you're mad about what's happening in
this country and not getting straight answer, you can do
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something to make a difference and Project Rescue and this
event is a phenomenal way to start.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that Hoosiers are Yeah,
I'm not a native born Hoosier. I'm one. I'm a transplant.
But I fell in love with the people of Indiana
and I know that they are giving, loving, hardworking people, sharing,
and so you know, I just I just want to
tell you that if that's your heart today, you can
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get involved and start somewhere. You know, Robbie's been a
long time partner with this. The LC coffee house that
we have is a is an awesome partnership. They're they're
helping do something and that's where to start and Rob
if it's if it's okay, could I could.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I pray over our se You sure can?
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Yeah, thanks Man, Heavenly Father, Lord, I just thank you
so much for the Hoosiers. I thank you God for
the heart that's in our people. I thank you for
the love that drives them. And God, as they look
around and they see the wickedness in the world, I
pray that you would move on their heart to do
something and to and to release the generosity that your
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heart showed to us, to release that onto others also.
And Lord, if we can't do it to the weakest
and the poorest amongst us, Lord, who would we do
it to? But your word says that when we did
it unto them, we did it unto you Jesus. So God,
I pray a massive blessing over our city as they
get involved and they release and open their hands to
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bless the poor and to bless the broken and see
them brought back. We're all a great redemption story. Lord,
you found us at our weakest and you brought us
and gave us great strength. We give you honor and glory.
Bless the people of Indianapolis. Bless the businesses of Indianapolis,
a mighty blessing. We asked that you would poured out
on everything they touch in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah again, the phone number three one seven nine to
six one eight three three zero will post the card
up at Robin Kendall on Twitter, Mike Milido, Nathan Peter
Noew of Life Church, thank you for doing what you
do for Project Rescue and helping fight human sex trafficking.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Thank you, Thank you having this man. Yeah, it's Kennell
The Casey Show, ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So there's a.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Big settlement in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case. Newsmax
Politico reporting this amongst others at Newsmax reached a sixty
seven million dollars settlement with Dominion.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Now this was over.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The election false election claims that were made. Fox News
had that massive settlement of seven hundred and eighty seven
million dollars in twenty twenty three, and it looks like
this payment is going to be three payments twenty seven
million was paid this year, and then two twenty million
(34:15):
dollar payments in twenty six and twenty seven. The only
thay you gotta be careful about what you say on
the air. The other part of this is Jerry I
think there was a horrible strategy from Trump's orbit in
the wake of what was going on in twenty twenty,
by going after too much stuff and not focusing on
(34:35):
the thing that was at hand that everybody could see,
which is when you have mass mail in unaccountable voting
where you're just literally mailing ballots out to people and
you no idea fills them out or who returns them. That
really sets you up for potential election fraud, rather than
focusing on these voting machines that apparently they couldn't prove.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, I mean when we talk about ballot harvesting, or
you saw the little drop boxes and people would roll
up and drop off two hundred, three hundred, five hundred ballots,
that would have been great to focus on. I thought
this was going to be a thing. They were full
court press, Dominions flipping votes, dominions doing this, Dominion's doing that,
and it looks like Dominion took everybody to the cleaner.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
They're doing very well. I mean, my pillow guy got
swallowed up in this. The attorneys are we are probably
doing very well. But again, one of the things when
you're when you and you got Rudy Juliani TV with
hair dye going down the side of his face, and
it's like, you should have focused on the thing that
everybody can get their head around, which is, hey, if
(35:35):
you don't control the voting process. And by control, I
mean you know who's voting. You know, it's that person
they show an ID, they show up to vote.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You know, even if it's a mail in.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's like Indiana has a process if're gonna vote by
mail that involves your ID, et cetera. That's what some
of the normal people can understand. And when all this
stuff they were saying about dominion, it was just like,
even if it turn not to be true, just eyes,
you know, glaze over because it's too complex and it's
doing this and it's doing that, and it's like the
(36:07):
average person is not going to understand that. And in
the process of focusing on these voting machines, they took
where people should have been paying attention to, which is
you've got to fix the mail in onaccountable voting in
these in these states. And look, you turn to a
more normal voting process in twenty twenty four compared to
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
But we haven't changed the ballot harvesting. We haven't changed
a no voter right, Like, what have we rectified nothing?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You still need major changes in a lot of these
swing states that have not happened.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
So when it's not a Trump like, will it still
work out?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
All right, Let's take a break, by the way, so
we have a shorter segment of this seming. So Hammer's
going to join us at eleven fifteen. When we come back,
we'll get back into the election election changing that's being
proposed here in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Everybody should be very, very very upset about this.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We'll talk about it more and about how our lawmakers
are like fires and getting bullied. It's Kenilly Casey Show
in ninety three Double DOBC
He was the last Republican to run the city of Indianapolis,
and now he has a book talking all about it.
It is The Kendall and Casey Show, and Rob Casey's
out today. Jerry Lopez inf Casey joined in studio. He
spent two terms as the mayor of the City of Indianapolis.
The great Greg Ballard, mister mayor, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Rob, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, So you have a new book out and it's
called Urban Republican Mayor My Story. Now we're gonna do
a little deep dive on the book. But one of
the things that's fasting about the book, and we're just
talking about this off.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Air, is the role that you give WIBC.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Greg Garrison in particular credit to for you becoming the
mayor of the City of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He was absolutely critical when no one was paying attention
to me in O seven, he kept having me on
the his show, which is a massive audience. It's something
you're familiar with.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, thank you. I'm gonna record that and I'm gonna
start using that in the promo.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the and you know, since my opponent wouldn't come on,
I kind of had free reign to come in and
he really helped me. And I was, you know, as
you can read in the book, it's I was a
little naive, a little unpolished, and that's okay. But he
helped me through those times, helped me through the radio certainly.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So most many long time HOOSI result will know the
story of you, but it's an incredible story. You were
elected mayor of the city in Indianapolis two thousand and seven,
and you were just sort of the guy who raised
your hand and said, okay, I'll draw the short straw
this cycle and I'll run. And you were this just
kind of obscure military guy, and then you shocked the
(01:33):
world and became the mayor. Just can do you remember
election night where you like, oh crap, I won? Like
what was it like when the.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Final folks were Actually I was not shocked, and I
remember the journey so well, and I'm so I'm so
glad that I got it down before before my memory
goes right. So I'm glad I got it down in print.
But no, I would have been shocks if I'd lost
that night. Really, oh yeah, the last two weeks I
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thought it was mine.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That is interesting. What what turn the tide, because there's
usually a moment any person who runs and wins, there's
kind of a moment where like, Okay, as long as
I turn out, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What was that moment for you?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I didn't know that there was that moment because we
had no polling numbers, we didn't have any money money.
I remember my opponent had four million bucks and at most,
and this was just in the last two weeks of
the campaign. I had two hundred thousand, but with a
month ago, I had like less than fifty thousand. Yeah,
and I've been working hard trying to raise money, but
it was clearly it was not going to happen. So
I had to have an alternate strategy. But the last
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two weeks I was pretty confident. I told somebody, you
probably know, four days before the election, you're going to
be the first call after the election, and he said
he'd be honored to take it. Because I was really
confident in that point. Because I'm not exaggerating this, I
had over one hundred Democrats whisper in my ear or
telling me silently because they couldn't say it publicly, And
they said it just like this. I've never voted for
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a Republican of my life, and I'm voting for you.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Was the was the property tax thing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The issue that was the entry point, that was not
the final point.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It got me a little bit of recognition, didn't really
because it's really a kind of a state issue. However,
four years previous to that, that was a bit of
an issue and not a lot was done about it
at that time. So when it came up again and
they had the tea parties and property tax bills being
thrown in the White River and all that, I was there. Yeah,
(03:38):
I wanted all the visibility I could get because I
was getting no visibility at all. So uh, but then
when they raised the income taxes sixty five percent in August,
three months before the election, on top of the property
tax flascow that was going on all summer long.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That when that happened, there's a Lopez you'll appreciate this,
Terry Lopez in for Katya. Remember in the scene and
Animal House where the playboy with the girl like falls
to the guy's window, the kid's window while he's reading
the playboy, and he just looks up and goes, thank
you God. When they raised the income Texas was that
you did you go, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But again I'm not sure that was quite it. It
certainly those two on top of each other got to
what I think might have been a culminating point in
the military terms budget night, city County council president locked
the doors. So people were angry. They wanted to get
in and say their thing. The I got I actually
(04:33):
got into the council session. I mean I was there.
I got there early enough, and I got in there.
Then they overflowed into the ticket or they overflowed into
the halls, and then it was I remember it's ninety
five degrees now hot in humid August. It locked the people.
That door is never locked, but it was locked that night,
and that became a real issue because the press they
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were covering some press were covering inside, lots of press
were covering outside that the people were locked out of
the People's building.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
So as you being the last Republican mayor of the city,
and the way that it's looking, Republicans have an uphill
fight to ever try to win the city back. What
can we do better to give us a fighting chance
here in a city that you really helped And one
two elections in which is unheard of these days.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, that's a great party. It was a democratic city
when I won too. I must remember that. They say
it's more democratic now, Okay, that's true, but I I,
you know, I it's tough to say this, but at
the rhetoric at the federal level, and what's happening at
the federal level hurts Republicans in the cities. It just does.
(05:36):
And there are two out of the top twenty five
cities in America that are run by Democrats, and they're
in the South, and they're largely Republican cities as opposed
to democratic cities. Try to find a Republican in a
democratic city right now, and I think you're going to
come up blank. So that didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So you'd think it makes it harder for guys like you, because,
let's face it, you do to some level have to
run a middle ish type of campaign. It's a nuts
and bolts campaign. It's roads, it's bridges, it's snow removal,
it's public safety. But you think that the federal rhetoric
hurts the ability to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I do. And you could run the middle ground, and
which is Okay, I'm not sure that's good necessarily get
you there. There has to be some I was lucky.
I was. I'm very open. I was the million to
one shot and it happened to me. Yeah, that's just
the way it was, and I got that. But I
took advantage of it. I didn't make the big mistake
going into it. But going back to the rhetoric is
cities are built differently than suburbs and rural areas. There
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are lots of different minorities, a lot of ethnicities in there,
and sometimes, frankly, what we say at the as we're
trying to get elected in other areas, that filters down
and when it comes down to the cities, then that
doesn't play well and people have trouble voting that way.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Greg Ballard is our guest. He's the former two term
mayor of Indianapolis. Is a new book out, Urban Republican Mayor.
My story are all right? So how would you have
handled the riots of twenty twenty because I think that's
sort of the signature issue of like if hog sets
administration the past ten years was sort of an event,
(07:14):
and you were so much better on public safety, right,
Like you look at the numbers, they're not even they're
not even closed, right, How would you have handled that
period of time?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I gotta be careful in how I say this.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, you know, I come to the Kenney Casey the
wrong seale.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
If you want to be careful, Let's go back to
Ridey King in ninety two, Steve Goldsmith. Yeah, Bart Peterson
had his, I had Ferguson. Riots and cities are all
across the nation, not in Indianapolis, that's right, Not in
Indianapolis in any of those instances.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I think that's why people were shocked that it
happened here, not one night.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But two.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So I'm suggesting to you they wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, well, I don't think they would have. I don't
think they would.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Have because there are you know, you could there are
elements in place if you do the right things, the
elements and place where you can let people have their say.
Let them what we did on Ferguson and Goldsmith did differently,
and you can just let them have you know, you
can do it in another way, so that doesn't get
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How did you keep like I remember towards the end
of your second term, because.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
People like not only did you win, you got re elected.
I did in a blue city. How did you except
for what there was?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And my numbers were in the seventies? Wow, heading into
a third term.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, you screwed the city by not running again. I
hope you're a happy pal. Hey, by the way, I thought,
I told I told the mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I said, by the time you get done with this
interview today, my goal is that you're going to uh,
You're going to call our friend Mark Diedle, sell that
nice house you got in White's Town, and move back
to the city to run for a run for a
third time third term.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh was there a reason you o?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, I want to ask you about the violence, because
I remember towards the end of your second term there
was numbers were over one hundred and we were like,
oh my gosh, these numbers are getting so high. We
would give an extremity to go back to those numbers
you had in terms of homicides in your administration.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, that's as I describing the book. I think pretty well,
the numbers were in the one hundred and fifteen one
hundred and thirty range when I took office. By two
thousand and nine, they were in the nineties four straight years.
You can go back thirty forty years, you'll only find
four years in the nineties, and they were they were
mine in a row. Then the Castle changed what we
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were doing because the Castle leadership changed, I wasn't able
to do what I wanted to do at the level
it was.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then did they ever tell you why, Well, they
just didn't like that there were few people getting murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
What well, I'm sure they didn't see it like that,
but they did. They the what we call the crime
prevention money started going different places. Yeah, and uh, and
I think that had a major effect on what was happening.
That said, you know, we kind of had had a
little bit of rough Yere's not not in the two
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hundreds or anything like that, just over one hundred, and
then by fifteen actually with Troy Riggs, we kind of
had it back. And you may not remember this. I
remember all of this clearly, but through the end of
May in twenty fifteen, we had like forty one forty
two murders, which is on an angle basis pretty pretty low.
Especially and because I remember this specifically, and I hope
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nobody from Baltimore is listening, but I mean we had
as many murders through May as Baltimore had in May.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, well it's like like this and this will shock you,
mister Mayor. I used to really like to drink and
coming downtown was one of my favorite places. I can remember.
This was fifteen, we're still Mayor. I can remember walking
like from mass av all the way back to downtown.
I would never do that today and you didn't even
think of the thing about it at three in the morning,
just you know, walking through the graild downtown.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I remember weekends we just drive around the circle listening
to music.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And nobody would get shot, right, So, like, how would
you hit? One of the big things now is the
youth that are out and you're just a curfews and
what are we going to do? And the find and
the what kind of you know, approached that because it's
hard for me to want to have the police be babysitters.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's lots of things we did differently, and there's it's
very well, I don't know if you read the Public
Safety chapter you got there yet or not, but it's
very detailed in what we did and it was very specific,
and I would suggested looking at that would make a difference.
I think that's right there, but I know it's really good.
(11:26):
But I always thought it was important to have somebody
in charge of public safety. We have a parks director,
we have a DM and D director, uh and but
the most important one, we don't have a public safety director.
And I thought that was absolutely critical. And to have
somebody not political at all, somebody who's going to come
in and do a really really good job because they
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do different things that listen to the police chief right
now is a great guy. I know, christ was a
lieutenant when I was the mayor. He was he was
a terrific guy, still is. But he's got an organization
run and he has law enforcement. Law enforcement's one element
of public safety. It's not the only element of public safety.
So somebody has to put all those other pieces together
so that it works together. And so I'm I'm suggesting
(12:10):
that that's something to be looked at. Who who helps
you on the street really matters also.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay, And without revealing too much, just want people to
buy the book. Why did you decide not to run
for a third term?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It was similar to how when I left the Marine Corps,
I left on my own terms In the Marine Corps too.
After twenty three years. Actually we were I was physically
and mentally exhausted. I really was. And if I would
have had a year in between, I probably would have
done it again, gone again.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like Michael Jordan, if you could have just take a
year baseball, you'd come back and being the.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Mayor something like that. But I was. I was a
and this goes back to, uh, you know, my my
marine days. If you if you can't do your if
you can't do your duty, then you need to get
out of there. And I didn't think I could do
be the mayor at the level that I had been
the last year your eight years. I didn't think I
could do it for another four years. And I thought, frankly,
I thought the citizens deserved somebody who could put their
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best effort in for the four years I was afraid
I could not.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, and I get that one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
If you do, and I've said this quite a bit,
if you do elected office right, you should be ready
to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
We were everywhere, Winnie and I were everywhere, and it
was very and we had a reputation for staying until
at night, and we were out six nights a week
every week for four years the first four years. We
cut it down like four or five nights the second
four years. But we were, we were, and I'm introverted,
and you got to get that. I'm an introverted guy,
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so I need to rest. Tended to take a lot
of Sundays off.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
All right, tell us where we can get the book
and make the sale. Why should people buy Urban Republican
Mayor my story?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, it's how I grew up and it was kind
of fun. I was joking the other there was somebody
else that my entire childhood is in eight pages, so
must not have been that dramatic. But it's a lot
of time in the Marine Corps, how it related to
how I was became the mayor, what that effect had
on me, And then there's about two hundred pages of
what we did in office, and there's some thoughts at
the end of it, also about Urban Republican Mayor about
(14:09):
Urban Republicans.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, there's so much. There's so much great local stuff
in there. If you're just a fan of even if
you're not a government person, if you're just a fan
of Indianapolis history and local people and things, there's so
many things in there that are just just great that
I think people would really here.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
There's a lot of stories in there and why we
did things.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, it's great, mister Mayor.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Always a pleasure to see you, and thank you for
spending a few minutes with us.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rob appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, it's Kenelly Casey Show, ninety three WIBC Big News. Jerry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Somebody has won almost ten million dollars in the Greater
Columbus area and we need to be friends with them.
It's Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez in
for Casey. Find him on Twitter at Indian Spanglish. According
to our news gathering partners over at WISH TV, a
nine point nine million dollar Who's Your Loto jackpot for
(15:05):
Saturday's drawing was one with a ticket purchased at a
gas station and convenience store in Columbus. Now my question
to you, Jerry Lopez, if indeed you won nine point
nine million dollars, what would you do with it?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I think the first thing I'd do is probably set
away some money for the kids, little trust fun stuff
so if they can't really touch it.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, change my name and real pull out baby.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You would change your name.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You would not stay in the city and embrace the
I'd have a stage name, fame and power that would
come with no having that sort of cause.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Okay, that's not that much money by t I mean
it sucks.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's a lot of money for me, but like that's
not a lot of money by today's rich people standard.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, you got to take about forty percent of it
out for taxes, right when you're pulling in that sort
of money. Now, I don't know, we're operating with blinders
on here because I don't know if what the actual
you know, there's always the payout, do you take it
over time whatever. Let's say if you took the payout
and with taxes, let's just pick a number, right, Let's
(16:05):
say you ended up.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
With four million dollars. Yeah, maybe that's realistic. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But for the purpose of this exercise, if you ended
up with four million dollars, that's a lot of money,
but it's not and it is life changing, but it's
not You're not in a generational wealth type of difference there.
I mean, you could blow it through four million pretty
fast if you're not careful.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Quickly, Okay, I mean four million is not that much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I still think even with four million dollars, I would
definitely have to rent the lock Miller building so I
could drop the way it would now be bronze sucks
giants sheet out of it like h and I might
rotate them like I think if I could rent the
So the lock Miller Building, for people don't know, it's
(16:53):
a very famous It's an old building right in the
heart of what is that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is that Washington Street that it's on? No? Is that? Yeah?
Washington Street? Right, it's on Washington Street.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
They're directing the Gumment Center, Yeah, Jeffrey.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Cross from the Government Center and by the State House,
and so all the politicos for the most part, or
any of the government organs basically would see this throughout
the course of the day. It's a multi story building,
and I have proposed for years that if I came
into a large amount of money, one of the things
I would do would be to rent something on the
second floor, which would get me window access. So like
(17:25):
Kramer in the Kenny Rogers Chicken episode on Seinfeld, I
could just drape giant bed sheets with sayings out of there.
And I think now for years we had said it
would be Holcombe sucks, and then I had Todd Young sucks.
There's so many of them. Now you got Braun, you
got Todd Young, you got Ji Banks, you got.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Rokita, you got Diego, you got Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Like, I would just have to have a rotating set
of bed sheets with a different person's name on it
every single day, seven days a week. And I think
for a period of time, maybe a year or so,
that's what I would do. At the a portion of
my money that would be a small person. I don't
think it'd be that much to rent part of the
second floor there to be able to.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Pull that off.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
If I hit, I'll give you money just to pull
it off. I mean, you have my word on that.
I want to see that.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And then other than that, like I mean, because you
would have to be somewhat cognizant of four million dollars
if I'm not careful, won't last me forever. I mean
you you could obviously do a lot of great things
with it and have a lot of fun with it.
But it's not like these people who win five hundred
million dollars in the in the lottery. Your life is
being changed you no longer have to worry that about things,
but you still got to be smart about it. Yeah,
it'll go quick, it'll go quick. And no, listen, we're
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talking about four million bucks. I'm setting aside a whole
lot less money now for the kids. That's look your kid, though,
Jaden is smart enough because he does the crypto that
he would figure out a way to make a lot
more money off of that money if you gave.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It to him.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Oh, that dude is chartering private jets now, yeah for athletes, right, Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, he's your son.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is going to be one of those guys that no
matter what he falls into, he will come out smelling
smelling like a rose and like a million dollars. All right,
let's take a let's take a break when we come back.
Got a couple of special guests. So obviously there's a
lot of talking about Epstein and sex trafficking, and the
reality is, while the Epstein stuff is totally abhorrent and
we should get the truth on that, human sex trafficking
is still a major problem, not just in this country,
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not just across the globe, but certainly right here in
Central Indiana. It is prevalent all over our country. It
is prevalent here in our state. And there's a great group.
We talk about them a lot. Their name is Project Rescue.
Most people know the money that I make off the
I Hate and I Love Rob Kendall t shirts from
the Hammer Nigel Store goes to Project Rescue. They've got
a big event coming up. They're partnering with our friends
at Life Church and they want you to be a
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part of it to help stamp out human sex trafficking
across the country. And it's a chance to visit the
Lucas Oil State. We'll talk about it coming up next.
Kennelly case Show ninety three.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Wibc Epstein is in the news all the time that
the reality is human sex trafficking is still very real
and it's happening not just across the globe, but in
this country and yes, right here in Central Indiana.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And there are local folks who are trying to do
something about it, and they've got a big event coming
up or you can be a part of it. It
is the Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today.
Jerry Lopez in for Casey and with us here in
studio pastors Nathan Peternell and Mike Milido of Life Church
and they are once again partnering with our friends at
Project Rescue. Now you know Project Rescue. I'm a big
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supporter of Project Rescue. That's where all the money that
I make off the I Hate and I Love Rob
Kendall t shirts from the Hammer and Nigel store goes
to and Project Rescue is a phenomenal organization that helps
stamp out human sex trafficking across the globe. Now, before
we get into the interview today, talk about this a
big event. Just a reminder Life Church they do advertise
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here on WIBC, and Guys, before we talk about this
big event that Life Church is doing with Project Rescue,
talk about why Life Church puts such an emphasis and
importance on Project Rescue and stamping out human sex trafficking.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
The Bible says in the Book of Micah, I've shown
the old man what is good and what the Lord
requires of you, but to do justly, to love mercy,
and to walk humbly with your God. And so when
you look at what's going on in our world, Christianity
should stand up and go hey not not. While I
was living I don't want I don't want it to
be seen that I never did something about the wickedness
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in my world. And you know, Jesus talks a lot
about Hey, I was I was sick in you and
you comforted me. I was, I was in the hospital,
you visited me. I was in a jail, you visited me.
So there's this side of our faith that requires us
to get up and do something. And so there are
more people today in slavery than ever in the history
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of the world. And so Project Rescue, which started in
a foreign you know, a foreign country across the world
and in Asia, is now I mean, they're rescuing women
and children all of the world. They don't just rescue
them out of it, but they totally change their lives
by showing them how they can live so they never
have to return to it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Mike, talk about the strong footprint the Project Rescue has
here in Central Indiana. Most of our longtime listeners know
all the money that I make off the I hate
Rob Kendall and I love Rob Kendall T shirt. Once
a year I got to get on hammer. I think
I've got a donation coming very soon.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Goes there.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Talk about the strong footprint that Project Rescue has here
in Central Indiana and why so many people are standing
behind it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, we've had a long partnership with Project Rescue. One
of the reasons why I think it resonates so well
here in Indiana is we know we had that issue
right here in Indiana as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Product, it's important to note that this is not something
that's just going on on border states or in foreign countries.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's happening right here.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
It's happening right here.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And when we have partnered with Project Rescue in the past,
it's also produced some results for efforts here, not today
as one of those organizations that's based here in Indianapolis
that we're able to partner with alongside with partnering with
Project Rescue to tackle the issue here and far. So
you know here in Indiana it's just near and dear
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to our hearts because we understand that has an impact
here as well as there.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Nathan.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
One of the things with human sex trafficking, because like
I said, it's all Epstein, right. People they think of
some guy taking little girls and flying them to an
island somewhere. Human sex trafficking happens in a variety of
ways and variety of forms. Can you talk a little
bit about what Project Rescue really focuses on.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, I mean, first off, you can't just go in
and tactically take all these people out of this. A
lot of the times, these little girls all over the world,
I mean Project Rescues do in ministry on four continents,
to do it over I think fifteen countries, thirty two cities.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
A lot of times.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
What you have to do is you have to just
present hope. You have to present that if you want
out of this, there is a way. Now they don't
think that's possible. That's why actually Project Rescue began with
people giving their children, these these little girl little girls. Basically,
in many cases, these kids are taken as young at
nine years old. Their virginity is sold because in Hinduism
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it says that if you get if you sleep with
a virgin, they can heal you of your sexually transmitted diseases.
So imagine that being the first experience of a little
nine year old girl, ten year old girl. That's where
they're sold. But then they're going to live in a
six six foot little brothel, and when they finally get pregnant,
their babies are going to be underneath of their of
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the bed that they're turning tricks on which they'll turn
that trick over and over ten ten times a day.
And so Project Rescue, you know, it's invisible chains that
hold these people in place. They don't know where else
am I going to go? What else could I possibly do?
How else can I feed my child? And so Project
Rescue comes alongside and says, first off, we literally set
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up medical places within the brothels and we say just come,
just come, we'll p for you. It starts there, and
then after that, eventually they may get to a point
where they go, you know what I would like to
be free. Well, you still have to take care of
that person in their body. You have to take care
of their soul, their mind, the rule, and their emotions
and their spirit. And Project Riscue does the whole work
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of that to make sure that these girls will never
have to go back to that old life.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Mike Nathan hits on a good point with the human
sex trafficking. It's not just we've got these girls that
are hidden somewhere. It's many of these people who are
adults who are found. You've got to give them a
reason to leave the to leave the lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, you've got to earn their trust actually, And I
had the privilege a couple of years ago of visiting
Project Rescue in India and they were opening a new
safe house. And while I was there, I visited several
of those all over the country, and one of them
that I remember in particular, it was one of their
first safe houses, and a gentleman and his wife who
are running it, leaned over to me one night and said,
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we're on our third generation. These little kids are growing
up with no idea of what trafficking is. And he
was so pleased to say that. The next day, I
was at a safe house where they were just opening,
and the plan was to spend the next year earning
trust enough to maybe start to help them a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But they have that.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Proven success over and over and over again, and they're
committed from start to finish, and their vision is not
only to rescue these young women, but that they would
become leaders of their nation.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Our guests, if you're just joining us, Nathan Peter, now
Mike Malito with Life Church. We're talking about Project Rescue,
which is a great organization here in Central Indiana that
fights human sex trafficking. Of course, this is all in
the news now because of Epstein, But whether Epstein's did
whatever or with us or not, human sex trafficking remains
very real and Life Church, along with Project Rescue, we're
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trying to stamp that out here in Central Indiana, across
the country and across the world. All Right, So Nathan,
you guys have a big event. It's an annual event
that you do that the public can be a part of.
If they're passionate about what's been going on with Epstein,
if they've been learning about this and are outraged as
people should be right here in Central Indiana, they can
make a difference.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah, I think you start. You start somewhere right, start
with the people that are actually doing something, and then
you know this, this is so big in the world,
we're gonna we have to continue adding things. So one
of the things that Life Church has has has done
is the Hope Starts Here Breakfast. It's gonna be on
September eighteenth. It's a Thursday morning, and it's actually we
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we partner with with some of our awesome partners like
the Lucas family and they allow us to use their
place and the Lucas Estate. Yes, this event is that
the Lucas Estate is at the Lucas Estate.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
See, that would be great for me because no one
would ever let me into the Lucas Estate unless I
went with an event like this.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
It's a it's a beautiful place. And we just thank
them so much for their for their partnership because you know,
just just to have them also believe in what's going on,
it's just a great joy. But we we meet, we're
actually this year gonna hear from one of the young
ladies whose lives was totally changed by it.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
She's gonna be coming in.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
It's gonna be it's gonna be phenomenal. And you know,
we're just if you have a heart to see that
which is that was just evil stamped out. If if
if you, if you have a gift of giving, if
your business is one that you're like, you know what
I want to give because because I believe in giving,
I know the power of giving. But I want to
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give to organizations that are vetted that I know the
maximum amount of every dollar is gonna go to this.
Then Project Rescue is an easy win for you because
I mean in some ways, if your heart doesn't open
to to this plague in our world, it's like, well,
what what really would move you? But I really believe
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that generosity we saw that in our church, just a
spirit of unbelievable generosity that got released. And we want,
we want people to give with us because it's about
it's about it's about setting people free. On I think
about you know, we all sing that song Amazing Grace
houd Sweet, the sound that saved a wretch like me,
that was written by a slave trader whose life was changed.
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We're not just we're not just seeing the kids set
free and the women set free. We're seeing the madams
and the pimps literally come to know Jesus.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's the Hope Starts Here Project Rescue Breakfast fundraiser. It's Thursday,
September eighteenth at seven point thirty. It's totally free to attend.
You get to go to the Lucas Estate again. For
someone like me, this will be your only opportunity to
ever get in without some burly security guard X, you know,
excusing you from the premises.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
If people want to know more about this, if they're
driving down the road to going this sound is great,
but I need some time to process this. How can
they learn more about this?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Absolutely, if you're wanting to learn more, you can text
the word breakfast to three one seven nine six one
eight three three zero. Even if if you think you
just want to go and literally learn more and find
ways later to get involved, it would be awesome to
have you and you would be inspired.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But there is no amount too small.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
If you think of it this way, it seems like
an insurmountable issue, but just think about the one, the
one that gets rescued, the difference that makes for that one,
and when Project Rescue, when they rescue one, it kind
of snowballs and that whole community starts to come. So
you get to be a part of that. So you
can text the word breakfast to three one seven ninety
six one eighty three point thirty to register and it's free.
(30:34):
You'll get more information there and of course at the breakfast,
and of course breakfast is also free at the Lucas estate.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
As you said, that's right. So here's what we'll do again.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
The number to text breakfast three one seven nine six
one eight three three zero. I'm going to take a
photo of this card, the promo card, I'll put it
up at Robin Kendall on Twitter and you can see
it there too. If we while you're operating heavy machinery
or a motor vehicle, we don't want you to be
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to be writing or texting while driving, so we'll put
it up there as well. And guys, I just think
this is such a phenomenal event. Like I said, been
a big supporter of Project Rescue for a long time.
And Nathan, I'll give you the last word on this.
If you're mad about your government not being honest with
you about Epstein, if you're mad about what's happening in
this country and not getting straight answer, you can do
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something to make a difference and Project Rescue and this
event is a phenomenal way to start.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that Hoosiers are Yeah,
I'm not a native born Hoosier. I'm one. I'm a transplant.
But I fell in love with the people of Indiana
and I know that they are giving, loving, hardworking people, sharing,
and so you know, I just I just want to
tell you that if that's your heart today, you can
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get involved and start somewhere. You know, Robbie's been a
long time partner with this. The LC coffee house that
we have is a is an awesome partnership. They're they're
helping do something and that's where to start and Rob
if it's if it's okay, could I could.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I pray over our se You sure can?
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Yeah, thanks Man, Heavenly Father, Lord, I just thank you
so much for the Hoosiers. I thank you God for
the heart that's in our people. I thank you for
the love that drives them. And God, as they look
around and they see the wickedness in the world, I
pray that you would move on their heart to do
something and to and to release the generosity that your
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heart showed to us, to release that onto others also.
And Lord, if we can't do it to the weakest
and the poorest amongst us, Lord, who would we do
it to? But your word says that when we did
it unto them, we did it unto you Jesus. So God,
I pray a massive blessing over our city as they
get involved and they release and open their hands to
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bless the poor and to bless the broken and see
them brought back. We're all a great redemption story. Lord,
you found us at our weakest and you brought us
and gave us great strength. We give you honor and glory.
Bless the people of Indianapolis. Bless the businesses of Indianapolis,
a mighty blessing. We asked that you would poured out
on everything they touch in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah again, the phone number three one seven nine to
six one eight three three zero will post the card
up at Robin Kendall on Twitter, Mike Milido, Nathan Peter
Noew of Life Church, thank you for doing what you
do for Project Rescue and helping fight human sex trafficking.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Thank you, Thank you having this man. Yeah, it's Kennell
The Casey Show, ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So there's a.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Big settlement in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case. Newsmax
Politico reporting this amongst others at Newsmax reached a sixty
seven million dollars settlement with Dominion.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Now this was over.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The election false election claims that were made. Fox News
had that massive settlement of seven hundred and eighty seven
million dollars in twenty twenty three, and it looks like
this payment is going to be three payments twenty seven
million was paid this year, and then two twenty million
(34:15):
dollar payments in twenty six and twenty seven. The only
thay you gotta be careful about what you say on
the air. The other part of this is Jerry I
think there was a horrible strategy from Trump's orbit in
the wake of what was going on in twenty twenty,
by going after too much stuff and not focusing on
(34:35):
the thing that was at hand that everybody could see,
which is when you have mass mail in unaccountable voting
where you're just literally mailing ballots out to people and
you no idea fills them out or who returns them. That
really sets you up for potential election fraud, rather than
focusing on these voting machines that apparently they couldn't prove.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, I mean when we talk about ballot harvesting, or
you saw the little drop boxes and people would roll
up and drop off two hundred, three hundred, five hundred ballots,
that would have been great to focus on. I thought
this was going to be a thing. They were full
court press, Dominions flipping votes, dominions doing this, Dominion's doing that,
and it looks like Dominion took everybody to the cleaner.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
They're doing very well. I mean, my pillow guy got
swallowed up in this. The attorneys are we are probably
doing very well. But again, one of the things when
you're when you and you got Rudy Juliani TV with
hair dye going down the side of his face, and
it's like, you should have focused on the thing that
everybody can get their head around, which is, hey, if
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you don't control the voting process. And by control, I
mean you know who's voting. You know, it's that person
they show an ID, they show up to vote.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You know, even if it's a mail in.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's like Indiana has a process if're gonna vote by
mail that involves your ID, et cetera. That's what some
of the normal people can understand. And when all this
stuff they were saying about dominion, it was just like,
even if it turn not to be true, just eyes,
you know, glaze over because it's too complex and it's
doing this and it's doing that, and it's like the
(36:07):
average person is not going to understand that. And in
the process of focusing on these voting machines, they took
where people should have been paying attention to, which is
you've got to fix the mail in onaccountable voting in
these in these states. And look, you turn to a
more normal voting process in twenty twenty four compared to
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
But we haven't changed the ballot harvesting. We haven't changed
a no voter right, Like, what have we rectified nothing?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You still need major changes in a lot of these
swing states that have not happened.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
So when it's not a Trump like, will it still
work out?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
All right, Let's take a break, by the way, so
we have a shorter segment of this seming. So Hammer's
going to join us at eleven fifteen. When we come back,
we'll get back into the election election changing that's being
proposed here in the state of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Everybody should be very, very very upset about this.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We'll talk about it more and about how our lawmakers
are like fires and getting bullied. It's Kenilly Casey Show
in ninety three Double DOBC
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