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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Casey. It is the story that has rocked the State House,
and it is this allegation that artificial intelligence was made
and then shared in some capacity inside the Lieutenant Governor's
off his artificial intelligence pornography of a state Reps wife.
We've covered it at link the last couple of days.
We had Tom Lobiancle who broke the story on yesterday,
(00:23):
and now the state Reps whose wife is allegedly at
the center of this, has come out and commented on it.
His name is Craig Haggard. Indie Star had a big
story on this today that he was featured in and
Craig Haggard State Rep represents part of Johnson County, part
of Hendricks County, and he now joins us on the
WIBC hotline to get the latest on what's going on
(00:45):
with this. Craig Haggard, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
All right, So I guess first to start up one,
how is your wife doing? Because she is the person
like obviously your name's in this, it's the Lieutenant Governor's office,
it's high ranking people in his office. It's all these
high profile people, but your wife is really allegedly the
victim here in this because she's the person who allegedly
this was done to How is she doing well?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I think you're you know, you're correct. It's not
about me or anybody else at this point. I'm a
husband first, and it's about my wife and she she's
embarrassed and her doesn't know what to think. I mean
at the end of the day, and how you're saying
and what happened or what's reported to happen is alleged,
but what's not alleged is that she is a victim
in this. Whether the video did happen, whether somebody's making
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it up for a talitory reasons, she is a victim
in this and that's that's why. Unlike other times when
people say stuff about me or other politicians, that's fine,
that's our job. But I'm here as a husband and
I want to get to the bottom of this, a
little bit of justice for not only my wife but
other people. This is a serious allegation, a serious crime.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
How did you become aware that this video is too
alleged to have existed.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was actually driving with my family on Saturday and
I got a call from Tom Lobianco and said, hey,
he was doing a story and it involved my wife
and wanted to get a comment on the story. And
that's the first I heard of this.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Did you speak with Tom about it?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah? I mean I started pressing him with questions and
you know who said this? Who said that? Who did this?
Have you seen this video? I was just I was confused.
My wife was sitting next to me, going what is
he talking about? And at that point I was just
trying to get more information. I think, like everybody else,
(02:40):
I'm just as much much in the dark about this
as everybody. I'm just trying to get some answers.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Craig Haggard is our guest. He's a state rapp rep
represents part of Hendricks County Johnson County. His wife is
at the center of these allegations that the Lieutenant Governor's office,
people in the Lieutenant Governor's office were sharing artificial intelligence pornography.
I think the other part of this, Craig, that is
really rubbing people the wrong way. Obviously that this was
done to her but allegedly was altered or the artificial
(03:09):
intelligence part of this, it was altered off of a
charity event. She was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right, she was singing and she I think this was
the third year. There's an event called Who's Your Idol?
And it's a charity event for Mental Health America. It's
a great event, great cause, and she does this every
year and so no good de goes unpunished.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I guess have you Have you talked to the House
of Representatives? You your leadership there? I know that. I
guess you had some sort of altercation or run in
with Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate. Have
you talked to Have you talked to those people? Where
are they at with us? Are they going to try
to help you get to the bottom of what took place?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, definitely, Speaker Houston reached out to me, and it
was a very kind call. I mean, I know, and
I think everybody knows that he doesn't tolerate this or behavior,
and he was supportive and wants to do whatever he
can do and resources of the House to get to
the bottom of this. So that was kind. I was
obviously I made a strong statement about individuals or office
(04:14):
responses to this. I was disappointed and continue to be
disappointed in the coming to the response coming out of
the Governor's office. And I get administratively, you are not
in charge of hiring or firing things like that. But
at the least I think a response out of any
office should be this is a horrible allegation if true,
(04:38):
and we need to get to the bottom of this.
We need to let everybody know in a transparent, independent
way that we don't tolerate the sort of behavior toward
women or anybody for that matter, because because the deep
fake AI is a national issue. We've seen stories where
young kids spec used against him, There's been suicides. There's
good parts of AI. This is the bad part of AI,
(04:59):
and we need to stand up and say we don't
tolerate this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Representative Craig Haggard is joining us. It's being reported that
you have spoken to the Marion County Prosecutor's office and
their investigation about this. Can you speak on that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I have spoken with him about that, and they wanted
to know the same thing question you're asking me, Hey,
what did you know? Who do you know? Have you
seen anybody who's seen this? Have you seen this? Those
sort of questions, And I really did not have a
lot to give them, because once again, I was as
much in the dark as anybody else, and so I
(05:33):
tried to be helpful I know that they are investigating this,
and as far as I understand, they've reached out and
had some investigations with a few folks, and at this point,
I don't know where that investigation is going to lead
to or where it is.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Craig Haggard, as you said our guest Casey, he's the
state rep. His wife is allegedly at the center of
this artificial intelligence pornography that was allegedly shared in the
Lieutenant Governor's office. Have you talked to Micah because Micah Beck,
with the Lieutenant governor, made a very definitive statement or
he has multiple times now. I believe that this didn't happen.
We investigated it, and I think he's also said he
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didn't know anything about it. Have you had a chance
to talk to him now Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Has reached out. I've talked to him a couple of times,
and I know, like anybody, doesn't want to think that
anybody could do this, and hopefully it's it's not true.
He is, you know, he's called tously how Brook's doings.
Told me they're investigating, they want to get the bottom
of it, they want heads to roll. People will be
fired if if this stuff turns out to be true
and like anybody, and I'm glad that they're doing an
(06:36):
internal investigation. I just think for transparency's sake that you know,
open the doors. Anybody come in, take a look, and
prove me right or wrong. And that I think is
the only way the public will have confidence in politicians
in the state House to say, hey, we're an open book.
We don't tolerate this. I mean, people already don't like
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politicians and they have a good reason not to, and
I don't want to give them any more reason to
not like us. And at the end of the day, ultimately,
I just want to get to the bottom of this.
If somebody, and I think I said this to the
Star reporter, if somebody did the deep fake, I want
them to be punished. This is a federal crime, it's
a state crime. And if somebody didn't do it and
(07:18):
they made it up to in some sort of retaliation
against the Lieutenant Governor's office, I think they should get
in trouble. I just want to get to the bottom
of it. I'm not going to blame anyone. I just
want an investigation done independently and put this to rest.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm curious after you've been experiencing this, will it guide
you in any way to have this become part of
a platform for you.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think all of our platforms in some in some
ways are driven by our life experiences. So I definitely
think so a lot of my platforms and how I've
legislated have been through a very constitutional guy that probably
comes from my Marine Corps service and my military service,
but also having a house with two daughters and a wife,
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and growing up in a small community. I think all
those add to that. And I think with this AI
stuff and also the ever growing just abborrent behavior across
the country, you know what you see in schools and
just the nasty things people do to each other, I
think that it'll definitely shape any sort of policy I
have in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We'll get j ottered with this. Has it been hard
to talk about? And that's one of things I've really
admired is you've come out from the beginning. We talked
the other day, and then obviously you've started talking on
the record. Has this been hard to do? I think
a lot of instinct for people would be let's just
slink away. I don't know, might be embarrassed, Let's just
let the investigation happen. You've been out and been vocal
about this. Has that been hard to do?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, I tell you it's not. I don't know it's hard,
But I've been kind of nervous and upset these interviews.
I thank so much more because it involves my wife,
and it really just it's not just something I'm fighting for,
something that I'm you know, I'm fighting for her, and
it just you know, it's it just it still upsets
(09:09):
me because I see her upset. Like I said, if
it's me, no big deal, I'll face it head on. Uh,
But yeah, I think it's important. I don't want to.
I think that when good people do nothing, bad things
that are going to happen. And I and I think
that we need to stand up. And I'm sure, you know,
she'll be fine, she'll come through this. Right now, it's
(09:30):
just you know, her phone's ringing off the hook, she's
getting text messages all in support, and uh, but right now,
if she goes out or if she were to perform again,
hey there's a brook that's you know, this happened to
her part of that story, and and uh, unlike her,
I've chose to be in the in the spotlight, and
she didn't so well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Craig is minders saying it's gonna be with this next
week for a little more happy announcement, and I did
want to say that's not as anything to do with this,
but Craig was one of what I think three people
who did the very hard right thing and voted against
that property.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Tax spoke at the property tax rally, and you.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Spoke at our rally. Course one of those guys did
and then folded like an accordion. But Craig, Man, I
feel weird even talking anything political right now, but I
did want again say thank you his first time I
think you've been on our show since that for standing
up and doing what was right with that, because I
know that was very hard and you and Andrew Ireland
got a lot of flak for that. But thanks for
coming to that rally and thanks for taking that hard vote. Man.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I appreciate it. I just believe it's standing up for
what's right.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
All right, Graig, Yeah, keep us posted, and obviously tell
your wife for thinking about her and we'll talk to
you soon.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
All right, care, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's KENDELLN. Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, So the lesson should be if you tell somebody
on the internet not to do something, there's a good
chance they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It happened again, rob again.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Another toy was thrown the odds, which I believe was
the odds on favor. I believe there was minus money
on it being green, So there needs to be an
investigation into that unless green is just the most prevalent
color of this device in question was thrown onto the
court of a WNBA game and it involved the Indiana fever.
(11:16):
It did, and it hit Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
It did, and she's the one who tweeted out, hey,
somebody's gonna get hurt. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So they were playing in Los Angeles last night, is
that correct? And then out of.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Nowhere two ZHO five left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The toy in question, which this is now the third throwing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, and then there were reports that there was actually
a fourth one that didn't make it to the court.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, somebody filmed there was you know, obviously everyboy's got
a cell phone cameras these days, and it was on
the ground, but it didn't make it to the court.
So you don't know if this is like the Zapruder film.
Was there a shot you know, was this the one
that missed or whatever? Look, okay, so couples things on
this one. You should never ever throw things onto the
(12:01):
playing field of a sporting event like that's ridiculous. These
people should be prosecuted the full exstend of the law.
Now this thing, is it rubber, I don't know. Is
it put anybody's life in danger? Probably not. But you
can't just pick and choose. Hey, I want to throw
this and it's not dangerous. You cannot throw things onto
the court or a field or anything in a sporting minute.
Puts the athletes at risk, puts particilarly people in the stands,
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or you cannot do that. So the people should be
found and prosecuted the full exstend in the law. However,
it is a continued reminder of how basically society looks
at that league as a big goof joke, and especially
without Caitlin Clark, nobody's taking anything serious.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, so it's been called ridiculous, dumb, stupid, dangerous.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And the league or the throwing of the thing the.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Coaches, the coaches are are saying that, and the league
has emphasized player and fan safety as their top priority.
They say throwing objects on the court is dangerous and
strictly prohibited, and the penalties include immediate a minimum one
year ban, and possible arrest and prosecution under the local laws.
(13:06):
I don't believe the first thrower has been arrested.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah yeah, but okay, So what are the first two
things that you laid out? What are the first two
supposed punishments?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Immediate ejection? Uh huh, minimum one year ban.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, if you are taking a sexual toy to a
sporting event with the intent of chucking it on the court,
the ban and the ejection ain't gonna mean nothing to
you because clearly you don't care about the basketball, right,
So that's ridiculous that that's supposed to be some sort
of deterrent or punishment. You got to get really strict
(13:39):
with people.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Remember remember in the two thousands, the early two thousands,
they had a it seemed like it happened a whole
bunch of people running onto the field during baseball games.
Do you remember this were at one point a father
and son tandem beat up a coach. I think it
was at a White Sox game and like two thousand
(14:02):
and three or two thousand and four. Do you remember this.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't remember anybody beating up a coach. I know
we were talking about, right, I'm running on the field.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
If somebody sees this in my Google search at work,
this is for work. Father son beat up coach white
socks game. Let's say how accurate my memory is on this.
Oh and it was totally right. Nine okay, yes, nine
nine two is the date. I'm watching it right now,
(14:31):
my mind, Casey, this was twenty three years ago, and
I got this right. Cabinet two White Sox fans attack
Royal's first base coach Tom Gamboa during a game in Chicago,
inflicting permanent hearing loss. Damn. I even impressed myself sometimes.
But this was like a thing in the early two
thousands where people were running on the field at baseball games,
(14:52):
whether they like one at a Cubs game, some guy
stole a Dodgers player's hat and he ran back into
the stands after him to get it. And they had
to really crack down on this. And they're going to
have to do this now because it's it's getting out
of control.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, the fund's over, especially now that Sophie Cunningham got
hit with it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, and the like, I mean again, you can chuckle
it whatever you you know, Oh this, you know, people
don't take the League series. There's a bunch of ways
you cannot take the League series. Don't watch it, don't
give them your money, don't you know, don't let if
people take it's great basketball, you can say, hi, you're
absolutely not. You cannot be throwing things at a sporting event.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I saw somebody saying that they thought it was being
done intentionally.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What do you think they're accidentally throwing the thing on
the court.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Nope, like the WNBA oh for publicity? Correct?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
What would that say about them?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That we are like guerrilla marketing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So the theory is the fixes in these are hired. Gut,
although the one.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Guy got arrested, right, he's not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean, wouldn't if it were, if the fix were in,
wouldn't you say? And the caper fled the scene, the
masked man never to be found again. He was wearing
a Richard Nixon mask. Like the guy got arrested, I
don't you know.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I mean that's so it really kind of blows that theory.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I mean, unless there's some sort of money being
put in a Swiss account somewhere, but I don't. I
mean it it's it speaks volumes. If let's just pretend
I don't think that this is right. But let's just
go down that rabbit hole. What does it say about
your league that you're dependent upon sexual devices being thrown
onto your court to continue to get people to want
(16:27):
to pay attention to your product.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, you don't have a lot of faith in the
actual play, and.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nobody's watching the game. It wasn't like people were glued
to their TV. Okay, it happens, and it's on Twitter,
everybody's seeing it. Yes, but that doesn't help you with
your sponsors, doesn't. I mean, that's how these leagues survive.
You can say whatever you want about you know, it's
the it's for for mainstream sports leagues, and I'm guessing
the WNBA is no different. For most part. It's not
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ticket sales. It's television rights, which is WNA really doesn't have.
I mean they have some, but but it's sponsorship. It's corporate.
You think sponsors like, hey, that's the league where they
throw the sexual devices on the court. Sign This is
not the who's the hockey team that throws the the
isn't there octopus or something? Red Wings? Is it Detroit?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, okay, that's a thing. Everybody's in on the
in on the deal. They clear the ice.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, but even that is really not sanctioned by the NHL.
I mean, you still have to sneak in the octopus.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I thought there was a whole thing where people were
just at the rent the hats.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They'll do the hat trick, but the octopus, that's still
you still got to Okay. I thought it was a contraband.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I thought there was some deal with the with what
one of those teams were. At a certain point, they
knew something was going to happen, and they were all
in kahoots and they cleared the ice and everybody was
sort of in on the gag. You no, I'm just
making that up.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't believe that they're in Coudes.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You got admit that. That's pretty impressive. I got a
father son first base coach fight from two thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So Sophie Cunningham, she kind of jumped back and was
laughing it off, and you could see the coach telling her,
all right, back in the game. Let's focus on this,
but it is focus on the game.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
By the way, Brian in the YouTube chats, is the
manufacture of the toy? Is the sponsor the WBA brought
to you by whatever? Yes, that'd be just perfect. But
you are creating an unsafe environment for the participants. And
it's very unnerving because while this thing might not kill you,
what if it's a battery? What of a batteries next? Well,
you know, what if it's a you know, you know,
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a weapon of some sort. I mean, you're creating an
unsafe environment for everybody and is totally should, one hundred
percent not be tolerated.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Another thing that happened yesterday Howard Stearn's contract with Serious
XM and Dead.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, why don't we do this because I'm glad you
got to this. Why don't we take a break. I
want to talk about this when we come back, because
there's a whole bunch of moving parts on this that
I think are super interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Is this us?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
This is what you chose to come back in with, Carl,
tell me.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
This was Howard Stern's theme song The Night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh in the nineties when Pete all right, so producer,
Carl's with us, and carls with us because he is
the Howard Stern expert. You worked for many years for
E Entertainment Television and your job was doing stuff with
the Howard Stern TV show that was on that network.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like you saw him and you were like, I want
to be guy that guy.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, I was working in LA and nobody knew about
the Howard Stern Show, and they Howard was their number
one show, and they basically recruited me to work there
to explain this show to them.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What did you do? We'll get down because a lot
of news with Howard Stern, We'll get What did you
do for E and the Howard Stern Enterprises? Well, first of.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
All, I worked in their video library and we would
receive all of his isotapes of isolated camera shots and
it would be actually produced in LA and nobody knew
who any of these people were. So I had a
log of who all these people were, and I logged
the show in LA.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Sounds dreadfully painful.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Carl and one of the things I got to do
is watch Howard every single night at E You got
paid to do that. I got paid.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That was my Well that is pretty cool, right. I
mean some guy was digging a ditch somewhere and you're like,
you're complaining about Carl getting paid to watch TV. All right,
So you're here because the big news on Stern is
that is it Sirius XM. There one thing, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now, Sirius XM. His contract is over this fall.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
With satellite radio and they said you donezo.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well no, they said that they're going to offer him
something else.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh like a janitorial position.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, like they're going to offer him another contract. But
he has come out and said that it's it's not
worth the investment.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Okay, So Carl, I put it to you like an animal.
So I put it to you, Greg. I just think
we have passed that era of an individual dude being
able to dominate the airwaves and revenue to the point
that it's worth paying the the eight figure contracts. But
you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
What's say you, Well, it's it's not worth what he's
doing at Serrious XM because like, why would I pay
for radio when I can get it for free.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember
it's been twenty years ago that Stern went.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
To two thousand and six.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the argument was like, oh my gosh, now he'll
be able to say all the words that you know
he couldn't say before, do all this, and it's like
part of the charm as a teenager growing up listening
to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he doesn't he
kind of cater to at a like young dudes.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah, yeah,
when I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Young And people will forget that. Howard Stern, for a
very brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on
on this frequency. Yeah, it was ninety three one when
it was the Buzzard, and he made a bit that
was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in to
compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when I
beat them in the ratings, I'm gonna throw a parade,
and he got smoked. I mean he it was a
(22:04):
dumpster fire because his show just doesn't translate.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Didn't resonate with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
To the Midwest. It's just not a midwet Bob and
Tom were great because they were funny, they were talented.
They guys like Jay Baker and all those guys or
Mark Patrick around them. But it was Midwest humor. It
was Midwest stuff that people could relate to, and he
came in with this coast stuff and people were just like,
it's kind of good. But the point of all this
was the idea of listening to him as a young
dude was he shouldn't be saying that he's got to
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get in big trouble. You can't do that in public airroys.
And once he went to satellite, We're gonna do whatever
he wanted, it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You didn't have to tiptoe around the language.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh my gosh,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no
fcc him pushing the boundaries as a young guy, you
were like, I want to I want to be that
guy that pushes the boundaries and then if there's no boundaries.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
He was literally the super were alpha male on the radio.
He was the one that brought in the women told
off the man. He was the guy that got away
with stuff, and he fizzled out in his old age.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts
of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie
what year did Private Parts come out?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Like?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's on the TI is on the tippy or did
you have to look it up?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, you and I were texting about it, likest. Oh,
so you got that and I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven I would have been
in the seventh grade. And I have said for a
long time that my dream since I was a little
kid was to be on the radio and be on
this radio station and do the exact thing I'm doing now.
I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it
by myself. But you've can de fine addition to the
to the program. But like that movie, and I remember
(23:51):
seeing it for the first time on a channel that
we weren't supposed to get, and it would have been
after my parents, Yeah, were sleep and watching that movie.
And that movie changed my life. Like seeing that and
I know now, like when you're in the seventh grade,
you don't know what's bullcrap and what's not. You think
it's all real. You thought pig vomit was the real
guy that Paul Giamix. But you see there like I
(24:14):
want to be that. Like that movie changed changed my life.
What happened to Howard Stern? He completely sold out.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And it was a puzzle because when Donald Trump ran
in twenty sixteen, he was like coming out against Donald.
Donald was a frequent guest on his show because Donald
just said what was on his mind, just like Howard
was it the need to be liked. He when he
divorced his wife, that was the end of the show.
(24:42):
Then he became Hollywood and he married an actress.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Part of that was because the shocking things that he
would say and the women that he would have on
the show. But you knew he's actually a married guy.
He's going home to his wife and his kids, and
you were kind of in on that, right this Carls
right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
He was no longer the regular guy. He was the
guy that got divorced and married. You know, a trophy
was and.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He probably was making because then the whole other thing
is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money
can give you comfort, but so many people don't have
satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's
so much that you can listen to. He he was well, he.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Was supposed to be the big talent to make you
want serious XM. I mean they paid him a groundbreaking
five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
How much money you think Do you think they lost
money on that deal? Do you think people enough people
got satellite radio because Howard beginning? Yeah? But did it
last There was only serious and.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
ExM and because of Howard they merged.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's right. So the thing that I like, he
interviewed Biden last year Karmala or I think he did.
He did Biden was still running. He talked while Biden
sat there, right that he did that. He did interview Kamala,
And it's like, what happened to you? And now you're
(26:12):
just some old, angry leftist guy who clearly has some
sort of internal misery. And it was just like, it's
so it's so awful to watch the heroes of your
youth hobble away and me, Howard Stern is just some
angry guy who hobbled into the sunset.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
So his time was up a while ago. He should
have ended it sooner and gone out on top.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
You're the super fan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah. I mean,
he just spared from my life. You know, twenty years
ago he went to satellite radio. Career is because of
Howard Stern.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I got the job at E because I knew the
subject and they said you need to work for us.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So like when you were younger, you just sat around
and listened to Stern every day.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I
picked him up out of Philadelphia's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
When was the last time you listened to a show?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
When I left LA in twenty fourteen, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Satellite radio anymore. Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you, And
you know what, We're gonna have Hammer joining us next.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Speaking of inappropriate people on the radio.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Jason Hammer, co host of the number one rated Hammer
in Nigel afternoon program, The co host, the better Host,
the best host, better man is now. Hello, Hello, great.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Interview you did with the State Rep whose wife is
at the center of this.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Deep fake controversy.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Great interview, and like, I hate this story so much
because I do some AI stuff, But man, it's supposed
to be fun. Like the AI thing is supposed to
make the work day easier, help out with school, and screw.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
With your buddies.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Now, like I'm designed to like create portographic blackmail.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yesterday, didn't you do one of Nigel escaping the cops
with Joe Hogg sets?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
If you go to the hammer in Nigel Show, Facebook
and Twitter, you will see AI Nigel running from the
impd after rating the liquor cabinet of Joe hawkson.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And you're like, even anything that's remotely controversial, which you
knew I wasn't gonna care, but you were like, cool,
if I do an AF you get hit in the face,
And I was like, right, you knew I wasn't gonna care,
but you still you asked, I.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Don't want somebody to get motivated to actually punch you
in the.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Fact they haven't done it by now.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
So I think what we need to do to bring
some fun back to this gross story about AI is
have a moment of clarity featuring AI Rob Kendall.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Oh, my name is Rob Kendall, and I love Brownsburg.
But I love Diego Morales even more. I really do.
I also love Todd Young, and I wish Diego and
Todd were my parents so I can spend more time
with him. I love him. It's also worth noting that
I hate when Casey talks. It takes time away from
me talking about my man crushes on Diego and Todd,
and sometimes even on my Quebec with I find myself
(28:58):
admiring his bright smile in here. Seriously, there's nothing Diego,
Todd and Micah can do wrong in my book. By
the way, my book is a horrible book and it's
available in Brownsburg. Now, if you will excuse me, I
have to go back to talking about Brownsburg. Pay Cheryl,
put down your smoke and pour me a beer. Daddy's
coming home to Brownsburg and he's ready for Applebee's Happy Hour. AI,
(29:21):
Rob Kendall out, that's good stuff. AI, Rob Kendall's that's
well done. But yes, and it's like the weirdest story
ever because the you know, Micah supporters whatever, like it's
not true, lobbyonc's making it up, and it's like Okay,
maybe maybe he is, maybe he hasn't wrong. Maybe it's
horrible sources. What a weird thing for anyone to make
(29:43):
up though, but people do weird things.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Why are green dongs being thrown out at the WNBA games?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Uh? Did you get a bet in on that? Because
you could? We saw websites where allegedly you could bet
on what the color of the device in question was
going to be.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I did not bet, but I you know me, I
hate betting favorites. And the favorite was the color that
was thrown out there? Why was green the favorite? Is
there a reason?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's just been the one that's the trout there?
Speaker 6 (30:09):
It's the trend, right, Apparently there's a big market for
green dongs being thrown out.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That nicely on camera WNBA games.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, but I mean, like, okay, the league's a joke.
We we kind of accepted that, and there's different ways
you can profess that you can't be throwing stuff and
no players And how did this individual sneak it? In?
Great question?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Did it come in the old prison wallet or was
there another way that this thing was uh, you know,
brought into the arena.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And there We talked about it earlier. We was supposedly
a second one.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That wasn't thrown.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
There wasn't thrown at a Washington Mystics game, Like somebody
threw it, but it didn't make it to the court.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
They had a weeny arm.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It was like a cubbed reliever, so they chucked it down,
but you know, it landed next to a kid or something, which,
come on, what are you doing here? But I told
you guys, like during the commercial break here, one of
these days, you guys are gonna be doing your show.
You're gonna be having some really important conversation, you know,
solving all the political drama in Indie. And I almost
(31:09):
sneak from one of these side doors and just chuck
a green dildo in here.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
One day it's hit Casey, We've got another. We got
another one.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's hit Casey. The fund's over you.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You would have to go buy one that humors me,
the idea you would. I'd be like flounder ordering the marbles.
I'm like one green please, Okay, So have you you guys?
You guys went to the State Fair the other day.
Ye did our show there. I couldn't talk, no, but
you had a good time. And obviously in this video
(31:43):
came out about the State Fair. It seems like the
problems they've had before is the Marion County Fair. I've
never I don't remember the State Fair having any sort
of incident like this. But now they've done this course
correction where if you're twenty four and you have a kid,
you got to be accompanied by an adult too. Yeah,
that's how bad things have gotten.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Like as ridiculous as that may sound, there has to
be a reason for it. Like when you go to
eat a buffalo wild wings downtown. And I found this
out like a year ago because I dropped Christopher off.
Chris is twenty years old. Jacob at the time was
I think sixteen, and they were gonna get wings before
a Pacers game or something. You have to be companied
(32:25):
with somebody twenty one and over to eat at that
restaurant after like six pm. You have to get a
code to use the bathroom there. And I asked why,
because a portion of their sales or alcohol, well local
youth wink wink would go in there, create a ruckus,
and some of the drug addicts would go into the
(32:45):
bathroom in od.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So let me get this right. You can go fight
for your country you can buy an alcoholic beverage, you
can buy cigarettes, but if you can't go to the
state heir unless you're twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And the broader thing is is when is do we
as a society just stand up and say enough is enough?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
I don't blame the fair for this. No, it's ridiculous
that it has to be this way. This is what
we talk about with Indianapolis. I love Indianapolis. It's broken
right now. Politically, socially it's broken. But man, when this
place is right, I love it. It takes me back to
my childhood. I think it's one of the best convention
cities in America. But my god, it's ridiculous. The leaps
(33:30):
and bounds you have to go to to avoid some
of the ridiculous crap.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Did you find this interesting because we talked about this
last hour our boy Steven from Indie Reporter at Indie
Underscore Reporter Underscore, Well, Fox fifty nine was ticked off.
Well that's what I'm saying that there were like mainstream
news people who were fighting with him over this, and
he's like, dude, I got the video from this account
right here. I'm pointing out these things that appear to
be the State Fair. Here's the video, And there were
(33:55):
people who were mad at him about this. It's like,
what are you fighting with him about?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Like, I got no beef with Fox fifty nine. I
got a pretty good relationship with those folks.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But that seemed like a very odd fight, and they
were pretty adamant too. Well.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I understand that they want to confirm that it's, you know,
legit and it is the Indiana State Fair, but I
think you also have to take into account that you're
talking about an independent journalist who is threatening their existence,
their livelihod.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
But you know, a competition exists, And the way that
they were reacting with that, you would have thought he
was saying it happened in the Fox parking lot. Well,
that's just weird that that's the fight, Like they really
chose to have.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah and wheat after tweet yeah, and he kept saying like, Okay,
here's this point that appears to be the state Fair.
Here's this point to be appears to be the state Fair.
Well so and so contacted the state police and they
couldn't confirm, but look at the place, like we're ed Steven,
wrong guy to mess with, Like started breaking it down
like this Zuppruder film. Right. Look here it all is,
and it just it grew him. What is interesting about
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that is it grew him by literally thousands of followers
that interaction. I just found it fascinating that mainstream media
people in the city were fighting with the citizen journalists
over a video about the state about something that literally
happened to the State Fair.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Listen, don't let a lot of these idiots ruin your life, right,
be cautious. If you're going somewhere that you feel like, man,
this is a little dicey for me, don't go. But
look the State Fair, man, I've been taking my kids.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There for years.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
They work really hard to make it a great atmosphere
and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Don't let a couple morons.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
That probably have had dads skip out on them when
they were six years old ruin your time.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I thought they had a parental accompany thing last year,
didn't they.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I thought, No, there was supposed to be a curfew
in Indy, and you see how that's going. There's a
curfew now, there's no penalties for it, and we will
then call the non existent parents.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
But then I promise you you're going to get justice Hey,
what are you? What are you doing this afternoon on
your program?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
This afternoon, we got more tickets to give away to
Live Golf, Live Golf.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We got Rod Stewart tickets.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
We're gonna play another round of Rod Stewart or Tony
Stewart and the tonas Tony Kennett will join us. We're
gonna laugh, We're gonna have some fun, probably have a
few shots along the way.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
If somebody want to do something nice for me, they
could win those tickets to Live Golf and they could
take me with them. Oh, what a great idea.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Those are also available for purchase.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, if somebody
want to do something nice for me, what if we
did a contest where they have to go with Bob
and we got to like videotapement and stream it the
whole way. Yeah, but then I gotta take a day
off work, and we know how this show just falls
apart if I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Please listen to you Nigel in today.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah he's here, Okay, Yeah, Jason Hammer, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three
w IBC.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Searching searching for shelter again. Again, little some again Sweet
I found myself seeking shelter agains
Casey. It is the story that has rocked the State House,
and it is this allegation that artificial intelligence was made
and then shared in some capacity inside the Lieutenant Governor's
off his artificial intelligence pornography of a state Reps wife.
We've covered it at link the last couple of days.
We had Tom Lobiancle who broke the story on yesterday,
(00:23):
and now the state Reps whose wife is allegedly at
the center of this, has come out and commented on it.
His name is Craig Haggard. Indie Star had a big
story on this today that he was featured in and
Craig Haggard State Rep represents part of Johnson County, part
of Hendricks County, and he now joins us on the
WIBC hotline to get the latest on what's going on
(00:45):
with this. Craig Haggard, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
All right, So I guess first to start up one,
how is your wife doing? Because she is the person
like obviously your name's in this, it's the Lieutenant Governor's office,
it's high ranking people in his office. It's all these
high profile people, but your wife is really allegedly the
victim here in this because she's the person who allegedly
this was done to How is she doing well?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I think you're you know, you're correct. It's not
about me or anybody else at this point. I'm a
husband first, and it's about my wife and she she's
embarrassed and her doesn't know what to think. I mean
at the end of the day, and how you're saying
and what happened or what's reported to happen is alleged,
but what's not alleged is that she is a victim
in this. Whether the video did happen, whether somebody's making
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it up for a talitory reasons, she is a victim
in this and that's that's why. Unlike other times when
people say stuff about me or other politicians, that's fine,
that's our job. But I'm here as a husband and
I want to get to the bottom of this, a
little bit of justice for not only my wife but
other people. This is a serious allegation, a serious crime.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
How did you become aware that this video is too
alleged to have existed.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was actually driving with my family on Saturday and
I got a call from Tom Lobianco and said, hey,
he was doing a story and it involved my wife
and wanted to get a comment on the story. And
that's the first I heard of this.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Did you speak with Tom about it?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah? I mean I started pressing him with questions and
you know who said this? Who said that? Who did this?
Have you seen this video? I was just I was confused.
My wife was sitting next to me, going what is
he talking about? And at that point I was just
trying to get more information. I think, like everybody else,
(02:40):
I'm just as much much in the dark about this
as everybody. I'm just trying to get some answers.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Craig Haggard is our guest. He's a state rapp rep
represents part of Hendricks County Johnson County. His wife is
at the center of these allegations that the Lieutenant Governor's office,
people in the Lieutenant Governor's office were sharing artificial intelligence pornography.
I think the other part of this, Craig, that is
really rubbing people the wrong way. Obviously that this was
done to her but allegedly was altered or the artificial
(03:09):
intelligence part of this, it was altered off of a
charity event. She was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right, she was singing and she I think this was
the third year. There's an event called Who's Your Idol?
And it's a charity event for Mental Health America. It's
a great event, great cause, and she does this every
year and so no good de goes unpunished.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I guess have you Have you talked to the House
of Representatives? You your leadership there? I know that. I
guess you had some sort of altercation or run in
with Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate. Have
you talked to Have you talked to those people? Where
are they at with us? Are they going to try
to help you get to the bottom of what took place?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, definitely, Speaker Houston reached out to me, and it
was a very kind call. I mean, I know, and
I think everybody knows that he doesn't tolerate this or behavior,
and he was supportive and wants to do whatever he
can do and resources of the House to get to
the bottom of this. So that was kind. I was
obviously I made a strong statement about individuals or office
(04:14):
responses to this. I was disappointed and continue to be
disappointed in the coming to the response coming out of
the Governor's office. And I get administratively, you are not
in charge of hiring or firing things like that. But
at the least I think a response out of any
office should be this is a horrible allegation if true,
(04:38):
and we need to get to the bottom of this.
We need to let everybody know in a transparent, independent
way that we don't tolerate the sort of behavior toward
women or anybody for that matter, because because the deep
fake AI is a national issue. We've seen stories where
young kids spec used against him, There's been suicides. There's
good parts of AI. This is the bad part of AI,
(04:59):
and we need to stand up and say we don't
tolerate this.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Representative Craig Haggard is joining us. It's being reported that
you have spoken to the Marion County Prosecutor's office and
their investigation about this. Can you speak on that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I have spoken with him about that, and they wanted
to know the same thing question you're asking me, Hey,
what did you know? Who do you know? Have you
seen anybody who's seen this? Have you seen this? Those
sort of questions, And I really did not have a
lot to give them, because once again, I was as
much in the dark as anybody else, and so I
(05:33):
tried to be helpful I know that they are investigating this,
and as far as I understand, they've reached out and
had some investigations with a few folks, and at this point,
I don't know where that investigation is going to lead
to or where it is.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Craig Haggard, as you said our guest Casey, he's the
state rep. His wife is allegedly at the center of
this artificial intelligence pornography that was allegedly shared in the
Lieutenant Governor's office. Have you talked to Micah because Micah Beck,
with the Lieutenant governor, made a very definitive statement or
he has multiple times now. I believe that this didn't happen.
We investigated it, and I think he's also said he
(06:10):
didn't know anything about it. Have you had a chance
to talk to him now Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Has reached out. I've talked to him a couple of times,
and I know, like anybody, doesn't want to think that
anybody could do this, and hopefully it's it's not true.
He is, you know, he's called tously how Brook's doings.
Told me they're investigating, they want to get the bottom
of it, they want heads to roll. People will be
fired if if this stuff turns out to be true
and like anybody, and I'm glad that they're doing an
(06:36):
internal investigation. I just think for transparency's sake that you know,
open the doors. Anybody come in, take a look, and
prove me right or wrong. And that I think is
the only way the public will have confidence in politicians
in the state House to say, hey, we're an open book.
We don't tolerate this. I mean, people already don't like
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politicians and they have a good reason not to, and
I don't want to give them any more reason to
not like us. And at the end of the day, ultimately,
I just want to get to the bottom of this.
If somebody, and I think I said this to the
Star reporter, if somebody did the deep fake, I want
them to be punished. This is a federal crime, it's
a state crime. And if somebody didn't do it and
(07:18):
they made it up to in some sort of retaliation
against the Lieutenant Governor's office, I think they should get
in trouble. I just want to get to the bottom
of it. I'm not going to blame anyone. I just
want an investigation done independently and put this to rest.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm curious after you've been experiencing this, will it guide
you in any way to have this become part of
a platform for you.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think all of our platforms in some in some
ways are driven by our life experiences. So I definitely
think so a lot of my platforms and how I've
legislated have been through a very constitutional guy that probably
comes from my Marine Corps service and my military service,
but also having a house with two daughters and a wife,
(08:07):
and growing up in a small community. I think all
those add to that. And I think with this AI
stuff and also the ever growing just abborrent behavior across
the country, you know what you see in schools and
just the nasty things people do to each other, I
think that it'll definitely shape any sort of policy I
have in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
We'll get j ottered with this. Has it been hard
to talk about? And that's one of things I've really
admired is you've come out from the beginning. We talked
the other day, and then obviously you've started talking on
the record. Has this been hard to do? I think
a lot of instinct for people would be let's just
slink away. I don't know, might be embarrassed, Let's just
let the investigation happen. You've been out and been vocal
about this. Has that been hard to do?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, I tell you it's not. I don't know it's hard,
But I've been kind of nervous and upset these interviews.
I thank so much more because it involves my wife,
and it really just it's not just something I'm fighting for,
something that I'm you know, I'm fighting for her, and
it just you know, it's it just it still upsets
(09:09):
me because I see her upset. Like I said, if
it's me, no big deal, I'll face it head on. Uh,
But yeah, I think it's important. I don't want to.
I think that when good people do nothing, bad things
that are going to happen. And I and I think
that we need to stand up. And I'm sure, you know,
she'll be fine, she'll come through this. Right now, it's
(09:30):
just you know, her phone's ringing off the hook, she's
getting text messages all in support, and uh, but right now,
if she goes out or if she were to perform again,
hey there's a brook that's you know, this happened to
her part of that story, and and uh, unlike her,
I've chose to be in the in the spotlight, and
she didn't so well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Craig is minders saying it's gonna be with this next
week for a little more happy announcement, and I did
want to say that's not as anything to do with this,
but Craig was one of what I think three people
who did the very hard right thing and voted against
that property.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Tax spoke at the property tax rally, and you.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Spoke at our rally. Course one of those guys did
and then folded like an accordion. But Craig, Man, I
feel weird even talking anything political right now, but I
did want again say thank you his first time I
think you've been on our show since that for standing
up and doing what was right with that, because I
know that was very hard and you and Andrew Ireland
got a lot of flak for that. But thanks for
coming to that rally and thanks for taking that hard vote. Man.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I appreciate it. I just believe it's standing up for
what's right.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
All right, Graig, Yeah, keep us posted, and obviously tell
your wife for thinking about her and we'll talk to
you soon.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
All right, care, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's KENDELLN. Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, So the lesson should be if you tell somebody
on the internet not to do something, there's a good
chance they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It happened again, rob again.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Another toy was thrown the odds, which I believe was
the odds on favor. I believe there was minus money
on it being green, So there needs to be an
investigation into that unless green is just the most prevalent
color of this device in question was thrown onto the
court of a WNBA game and it involved the Indiana fever.
(11:16):
It did, and it hit Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
It did, and she's the one who tweeted out, hey,
somebody's gonna get hurt. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So they were playing in Los Angeles last night, is
that correct? And then out of.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Nowhere two ZHO five left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The toy in question, which this is now the third throwing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, and then there were reports that there was actually
a fourth one that didn't make it to the court.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, somebody filmed there was you know, obviously everyboy's got
a cell phone cameras these days, and it was on
the ground, but it didn't make it to the court.
So you don't know if this is like the Zapruder film.
Was there a shot you know, was this the one
that missed or whatever? Look, okay, so couples things on
this one. You should never ever throw things onto the
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playing field of a sporting event like that's ridiculous. These
people should be prosecuted the full exstend of the law.
Now this thing, is it rubber, I don't know. Is
it put anybody's life in danger? Probably not. But you
can't just pick and choose. Hey, I want to throw
this and it's not dangerous. You cannot throw things onto
the court or a field or anything in a sporting minute.
Puts the athletes at risk, puts particilarly people in the stands,
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or you cannot do that. So the people should be
found and prosecuted the full exstend in the law. However,
it is a continued reminder of how basically society looks
at that league as a big goof joke, and especially
without Caitlin Clark, nobody's taking anything serious.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, so it's been called ridiculous, dumb, stupid, dangerous.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And the league or the throwing of the thing the.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Coaches, the coaches are are saying that, and the league
has emphasized player and fan safety as their top priority.
They say throwing objects on the court is dangerous and
strictly prohibited, and the penalties include immediate a minimum one
year ban, and possible arrest and prosecution under the local laws.
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I don't believe the first thrower has been arrested.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah yeah, but okay, So what are the first two
things that you laid out? What are the first two
supposed punishments?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Immediate ejection? Uh huh, minimum one year ban.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, if you are taking a sexual toy to a
sporting event with the intent of chucking it on the court,
the ban and the ejection ain't gonna mean nothing to
you because clearly you don't care about the basketball, right,
So that's ridiculous that that's supposed to be some sort
of deterrent or punishment. You got to get really strict
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with people.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Remember remember in the two thousands, the early two thousands,
they had a it seemed like it happened a whole
bunch of people running onto the field during baseball games.
Do you remember this were at one point a father
and son tandem beat up a coach. I think it
was at a White Sox game and like two thousand
(14:02):
and three or two thousand and four. Do you remember this.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't remember anybody beating up a coach. I know
we were talking about, right, I'm running on the field.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
If somebody sees this in my Google search at work,
this is for work. Father son beat up coach white
socks game. Let's say how accurate my memory is on this.
Oh and it was totally right. Nine okay, yes, nine
nine two is the date. I'm watching it right now,
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my mind, Casey, this was twenty three years ago, and
I got this right. Cabinet two White Sox fans attack
Royal's first base coach Tom Gamboa during a game in Chicago,
inflicting permanent hearing loss. Damn. I even impressed myself sometimes.
But this was like a thing in the early two
thousands where people were running on the field at baseball games,
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whether they like one at a Cubs game, some guy
stole a Dodgers player's hat and he ran back into
the stands after him to get it. And they had
to really crack down on this. And they're going to
have to do this now because it's it's getting out
of control.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, the fund's over, especially now that Sophie Cunningham got
hit with it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, and the like, I mean again, you can chuckle
it whatever you you know, Oh this, you know, people
don't take the League series. There's a bunch of ways
you cannot take the League series. Don't watch it, don't
give them your money, don't you know, don't let if
people take it's great basketball, you can say, hi, you're
absolutely not. You cannot be throwing things at a sporting event.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I saw somebody saying that they thought it was being
done intentionally.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What do you think they're accidentally throwing the thing on
the court.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Nope, like the WNBA oh for publicity? Correct?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
What would that say about them?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That we are like guerrilla marketing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So the theory is the fixes in these are hired. Gut,
although the one.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Guy got arrested, right, he's not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I mean, wouldn't if it were, if the fix were in,
wouldn't you say? And the caper fled the scene, the
masked man never to be found again. He was wearing
a Richard Nixon mask. Like the guy got arrested, I
don't you know.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I mean that's so it really kind of blows that theory.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I mean, unless there's some sort of money being
put in a Swiss account somewhere, but I don't. I
mean it it's it speaks volumes. If let's just pretend
I don't think that this is right. But let's just
go down that rabbit hole. What does it say about
your league that you're dependent upon sexual devices being thrown
onto your court to continue to get people to want
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to pay attention to your product.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, you don't have a lot of faith in the
actual play, and.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nobody's watching the game. It wasn't like people were glued
to their TV. Okay, it happens, and it's on Twitter,
everybody's seeing it. Yes, but that doesn't help you with
your sponsors, doesn't. I mean, that's how these leagues survive.
You can say whatever you want about you know, it's
the it's for for mainstream sports leagues, and I'm guessing
the WNBA is no different. For most part. It's not
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ticket sales. It's television rights, which is WNA really doesn't have.
I mean they have some, but but it's sponsorship. It's corporate.
You think sponsors like, hey, that's the league where they
throw the sexual devices on the court. Sign This is
not the who's the hockey team that throws the the
isn't there octopus or something? Red Wings? Is it Detroit?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, okay, that's a thing. Everybody's in on the
in on the deal. They clear the ice.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, but even that is really not sanctioned by the NHL.
I mean, you still have to sneak in the octopus.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I thought there was a whole thing where people were
just at the rent the hats.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They'll do the hat trick, but the octopus, that's still
you still got to Okay. I thought it was a contraband.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I thought there was some deal with the with what
one of those teams were. At a certain point, they
knew something was going to happen, and they were all
in kahoots and they cleared the ice and everybody was
sort of in on the gag. You no, I'm just
making that up.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't believe that they're in Coudes.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You got admit that. That's pretty impressive. I got a
father son first base coach fight from two thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So Sophie Cunningham, she kind of jumped back and was
laughing it off, and you could see the coach telling her,
all right, back in the game. Let's focus on this,
but it is focus on the game.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
By the way, Brian in the YouTube chats, is the
manufacture of the toy? Is the sponsor the WBA brought
to you by whatever? Yes, that'd be just perfect. But
you are creating an unsafe environment for the participants. And
it's very unnerving because while this thing might not kill you,
what if it's a battery? What of a batteries next? Well,
you know, what if it's a you know, you know,
(18:26):
a weapon of some sort. I mean, you're creating an
unsafe environment for everybody and is totally should, one hundred
percent not be tolerated.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Another thing that happened yesterday Howard Stearn's contract with Serious
XM and Dead.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, why don't we do this because I'm glad you
got to this. Why don't we take a break. I
want to talk about this when we come back, because
there's a whole bunch of moving parts on this that
I think are super interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Is this us?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
This is what you chose to come back in with, Carl,
tell me.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
This was Howard Stern's theme song The Night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh in the nineties when Pete all right, so producer,
Carl's with us, and carls with us because he is
the Howard Stern expert. You worked for many years for
E Entertainment Television and your job was doing stuff with
the Howard Stern TV show that was on that network.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like you saw him and you were like, I want
to be guy that guy.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, I was working in LA and nobody knew about
the Howard Stern Show, and they Howard was their number
one show, and they basically recruited me to work there
to explain this show to them.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What did you do? We'll get down because a lot
of news with Howard Stern, We'll get What did you
do for E and the Howard Stern Enterprises? Well, first of.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
All, I worked in their video library and we would
receive all of his isotapes of isolated camera shots and
it would be actually produced in LA and nobody knew
who any of these people were. So I had a
log of who all these people were, and I logged
the show in LA.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Sounds dreadfully painful.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Carl and one of the things I got to do
is watch Howard every single night at E You got
paid to do that. I got paid.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That was my Well that is pretty cool, right. I
mean some guy was digging a ditch somewhere and you're like,
you're complaining about Carl getting paid to watch TV. All right,
So you're here because the big news on Stern is
that is it Sirius XM. There one thing, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now, Sirius XM. His contract is over this fall.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
With satellite radio and they said you donezo.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well no, they said that they're going to offer him
something else.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh like a janitorial position.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, like they're going to offer him another contract. But
he has come out and said that it's it's not
worth the investment.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Okay, So Carl, I put it to you like an animal.
So I put it to you, Greg. I just think
we have passed that era of an individual dude being
able to dominate the airwaves and revenue to the point
that it's worth paying the the eight figure contracts. But
you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
What's say you, Well, it's it's not worth what he's
doing at Serrious XM because like, why would I pay
for radio when I can get it for free.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember
it's been twenty years ago that Stern went.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
To two thousand and six.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the argument was like, oh my gosh, now he'll
be able to say all the words that you know
he couldn't say before, do all this, and it's like
part of the charm as a teenager growing up listening
to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he doesn't he
kind of cater to at a like young dudes.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah, yeah,
when I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Young And people will forget that. Howard Stern, for a
very brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on
on this frequency. Yeah, it was ninety three one when
it was the Buzzard, and he made a bit that
was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in to
compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when I
beat them in the ratings, I'm gonna throw a parade,
and he got smoked. I mean he it was a
(22:04):
dumpster fire because his show just doesn't translate.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Didn't resonate with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
To the Midwest. It's just not a midwet Bob and
Tom were great because they were funny, they were talented.
They guys like Jay Baker and all those guys or
Mark Patrick around them. But it was Midwest humor. It
was Midwest stuff that people could relate to, and he
came in with this coast stuff and people were just like,
it's kind of good. But the point of all this
was the idea of listening to him as a young
dude was he shouldn't be saying that he's got to
(22:32):
get in big trouble. You can't do that in public airroys.
And once he went to satellite, We're gonna do whatever
he wanted, it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You didn't have to tiptoe around the language.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh my gosh,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no
fcc him pushing the boundaries as a young guy, you
were like, I want to I want to be that
guy that pushes the boundaries and then if there's no boundaries.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
He was literally the super were alpha male on the radio.
He was the one that brought in the women told
off the man. He was the guy that got away
with stuff, and he fizzled out in his old age.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts
of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie
what year did Private Parts come out?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Like?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's on the TI is on the tippy or did
you have to look it up?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, you and I were texting about it, likest. Oh,
so you got that and I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven I would have been
in the seventh grade. And I have said for a
long time that my dream since I was a little
kid was to be on the radio and be on
this radio station and do the exact thing I'm doing now.
I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it
by myself. But you've can de fine addition to the
to the program. But like that movie, and I remember
(23:51):
seeing it for the first time on a channel that
we weren't supposed to get, and it would have been
after my parents, Yeah, were sleep and watching that movie.
And that movie changed my life. Like seeing that and
I know now, like when you're in the seventh grade,
you don't know what's bullcrap and what's not. You think
it's all real. You thought pig vomit was the real
guy that Paul Giamix. But you see there like I
(24:14):
want to be that. Like that movie changed changed my life.
What happened to Howard Stern? He completely sold out.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
And it was a puzzle because when Donald Trump ran
in twenty sixteen, he was like coming out against Donald.
Donald was a frequent guest on his show because Donald
just said what was on his mind, just like Howard
was it the need to be liked. He when he
divorced his wife, that was the end of the show.
(24:42):
Then he became Hollywood and he married an actress.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Part of that was because the shocking things that he
would say and the women that he would have on
the show. But you knew he's actually a married guy.
He's going home to his wife and his kids, and
you were kind of in on that, right this Carls
right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
He was no longer the regular guy. He was the
guy that got divorced and married. You know, a trophy
was and.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He probably was making because then the whole other thing
is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money
can give you comfort, but so many people don't have
satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's
so much that you can listen to. He he was well, he.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Was supposed to be the big talent to make you
want serious XM. I mean they paid him a groundbreaking
five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
How much money you think Do you think they lost
money on that deal? Do you think people enough people
got satellite radio because Howard beginning? Yeah? But did it
last There was only serious and.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
ExM and because of Howard they merged.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's right. So the thing that I like, he
interviewed Biden last year Karmala or I think he did.
He did Biden was still running. He talked while Biden
sat there, right that he did that. He did interview Kamala,
And it's like, what happened to you? And now you're
(26:12):
just some old, angry leftist guy who clearly has some
sort of internal misery. And it was just like, it's
so it's so awful to watch the heroes of your
youth hobble away and me, Howard Stern is just some
angry guy who hobbled into the sunset.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
So his time was up a while ago. He should
have ended it sooner and gone out on top.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
You're the super fan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah. I mean,
he just spared from my life. You know, twenty years
ago he went to satellite radio. Career is because of
Howard Stern.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I got the job at E because I knew the
subject and they said you need to work for us.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So like when you were younger, you just sat around
and listened to Stern every day.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I
picked him up out of Philadelphia's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
When was the last time you listened to a show?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
When I left LA in twenty fourteen, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Satellite radio anymore. Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you, And
you know what, We're gonna have Hammer joining us next.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Speaking of inappropriate people on the radio.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Jason Hammer, co host of the number one rated Hammer
in Nigel afternoon program, The co host, the better Host,
the best host, better man is now. Hello, Hello, great.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Interview you did with the State Rep whose wife is
at the center of this.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Deep fake controversy.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Great interview, and like, I hate this story so much
because I do some AI stuff, But man, it's supposed
to be fun. Like the AI thing is supposed to
make the work day easier, help out with school, and screw.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
With your buddies.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Now, like I'm designed to like create portographic blackmail.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yesterday, didn't you do one of Nigel escaping the cops
with Joe Hogg sets?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
If you go to the hammer in Nigel Show, Facebook
and Twitter, you will see AI Nigel running from the
impd after rating the liquor cabinet of Joe hawkson.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And you're like, even anything that's remotely controversial, which you
knew I wasn't gonna care, but you were like, cool,
if I do an AF you get hit in the face,
And I was like, right, you knew I wasn't gonna care,
but you still you asked, I.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Don't want somebody to get motivated to actually punch you
in the.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Fact they haven't done it by now.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
So I think what we need to do to bring
some fun back to this gross story about AI is
have a moment of clarity featuring AI Rob Kendall.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Oh, my name is Rob Kendall, and I love Brownsburg.
But I love Diego Morales even more. I really do.
I also love Todd Young, and I wish Diego and
Todd were my parents so I can spend more time
with him. I love him. It's also worth noting that
I hate when Casey talks. It takes time away from
me talking about my man crushes on Diego and Todd,
and sometimes even on my Quebec with I find myself
(28:58):
admiring his bright smile in here. Seriously, there's nothing Diego,
Todd and Micah can do wrong in my book. By
the way, my book is a horrible book and it's
available in Brownsburg. Now, if you will excuse me, I
have to go back to talking about Brownsburg. Pay Cheryl,
put down your smoke and pour me a beer. Daddy's
coming home to Brownsburg and he's ready for Applebee's Happy Hour. AI,
(29:21):
Rob Kendall out, that's good stuff. AI, Rob Kendall's that's
well done. But yes, and it's like the weirdest story
ever because the you know, Micah supporters whatever, like it's
not true, lobbyonc's making it up, and it's like Okay,
maybe maybe he is, maybe he hasn't wrong. Maybe it's
horrible sources. What a weird thing for anyone to make
(29:43):
up though, but people do weird things.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Why are green dongs being thrown out at the WNBA games?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Uh? Did you get a bet in on that? Because
you could? We saw websites where allegedly you could bet
on what the color of the device in question was
going to be.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I did not bet, but I you know me, I
hate betting favorites. And the favorite was the color that
was thrown out there? Why was green the favorite? Is
there a reason?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's just been the one that's the trout there?
Speaker 6 (30:09):
It's the trend, right, Apparently there's a big market for
green dongs being thrown out.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That nicely on camera WNBA games.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, but I mean, like, okay, the league's a joke.
We we kind of accepted that, and there's different ways
you can profess that you can't be throwing stuff and
no players And how did this individual sneak it? In?
Great question?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Did it come in the old prison wallet or was
there another way that this thing was uh, you know,
brought into the arena.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And there We talked about it earlier. We was supposedly
a second one.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That wasn't thrown.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
There wasn't thrown at a Washington Mystics game, Like somebody
threw it, but it didn't make it to the court.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
They had a weeny arm.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It was like a cubbed reliever, so they chucked it down,
but you know, it landed next to a kid or something, which,
come on, what are you doing here? But I told
you guys, like during the commercial break here, one of
these days, you guys are gonna be doing your show.
You're gonna be having some really important conversation, you know,
solving all the political drama in Indie. And I almost
(31:09):
sneak from one of these side doors and just chuck
a green dildo in here.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
One day it's hit Casey, We've got another. We got
another one.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's hit Casey. The fund's over you.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You would have to go buy one that humors me,
the idea you would. I'd be like flounder ordering the marbles.
I'm like one green please, Okay, So have you you guys?
You guys went to the State Fair the other day.
Ye did our show there. I couldn't talk, no, but
you had a good time. And obviously in this video
(31:43):
came out about the State Fair. It seems like the
problems they've had before is the Marion County Fair. I've
never I don't remember the State Fair having any sort
of incident like this. But now they've done this course
correction where if you're twenty four and you have a kid,
you got to be accompanied by an adult too. Yeah,
that's how bad things have gotten.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Like as ridiculous as that may sound, there has to
be a reason for it. Like when you go to
eat a buffalo wild wings downtown. And I found this
out like a year ago because I dropped Christopher off.
Chris is twenty years old. Jacob at the time was
I think sixteen, and they were gonna get wings before
a Pacers game or something. You have to be companied
(32:25):
with somebody twenty one and over to eat at that
restaurant after like six pm. You have to get a
code to use the bathroom there. And I asked why,
because a portion of their sales or alcohol, well local
youth wink wink would go in there, create a ruckus,
and some of the drug addicts would go into the
(32:45):
bathroom in od.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So let me get this right. You can go fight
for your country you can buy an alcoholic beverage, you
can buy cigarettes, but if you can't go to the
state heir unless you're twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And the broader thing is is when is do we
as a society just stand up and say enough is enough?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
I don't blame the fair for this. No, it's ridiculous
that it has to be this way. This is what
we talk about with Indianapolis. I love Indianapolis. It's broken
right now. Politically, socially it's broken. But man, when this
place is right, I love it. It takes me back to
my childhood. I think it's one of the best convention
cities in America. But my god, it's ridiculous. The leaps
(33:30):
and bounds you have to go to to avoid some
of the ridiculous crap.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Did you find this interesting because we talked about this
last hour our boy Steven from Indie Reporter at Indie
Underscore Reporter Underscore, Well, Fox fifty nine was ticked off.
Well that's what I'm saying that there were like mainstream
news people who were fighting with him over this, and
he's like, dude, I got the video from this account
right here. I'm pointing out these things that appear to
be the State Fair. Here's the video, And there were
(33:55):
people who were mad at him about this. It's like,
what are you fighting with him about?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Like, I got no beef with Fox fifty nine. I
got a pretty good relationship with those folks.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But that seemed like a very odd fight, and they
were pretty adamant too. Well.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I understand that they want to confirm that it's, you know,
legit and it is the Indiana State Fair, but I
think you also have to take into account that you're
talking about an independent journalist who is threatening their existence,
their livelihod.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
But you know, a competition exists, And the way that
they were reacting with that, you would have thought he
was saying it happened in the Fox parking lot. Well,
that's just weird that that's the fight, Like they really
chose to have.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah and wheat after tweet yeah, and he kept saying like, Okay,
here's this point that appears to be the state Fair.
Here's this point to be appears to be the state Fair.
Well so and so contacted the state police and they
couldn't confirm, but look at the place, like we're ed Steven,
wrong guy to mess with, Like started breaking it down
like this Zuppruder film. Right. Look here it all is,
and it just it grew him. What is interesting about
(34:54):
that is it grew him by literally thousands of followers
that interaction. I just found it fascinating that mainstream media
people in the city were fighting with the citizen journalists
over a video about the state about something that literally
happened to the State Fair.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Listen, don't let a lot of these idiots ruin your life, right,
be cautious. If you're going somewhere that you feel like, man,
this is a little dicey for me, don't go. But
look the State Fair, man, I've been taking my kids.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There for years.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
They work really hard to make it a great atmosphere
and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Don't let a couple morons.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
That probably have had dads skip out on them when
they were six years old ruin your time.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I thought they had a parental accompany thing last year,
didn't they.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I thought, No, there was supposed to be a curfew
in Indy, and you see how that's going. There's a
curfew now, there's no penalties for it, and we will
then call the non existent parents.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
But then I promise you you're going to get justice Hey,
what are you? What are you doing this afternoon on
your program?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
This afternoon, we got more tickets to give away to
Live Golf, Live Golf.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We got Rod Stewart tickets.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
We're gonna play another round of Rod Stewart or Tony
Stewart and the tonas Tony Kennett will join us. We're
gonna laugh, We're gonna have some fun, probably have a
few shots along the way.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
If somebody want to do something nice for me, they
could win those tickets to Live Golf and they could
take me with them. Oh, what a great idea.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Those are also available for purchase.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, if somebody
want to do something nice for me, what if we
did a contest where they have to go with Bob
and we got to like videotapement and stream it the
whole way. Yeah, but then I gotta take a day
off work, and we know how this show just falls
apart if I'm not here.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Please listen to you Nigel in today.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah he's here, Okay, Yeah, Jason Hammer, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three
w IBC.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Searching searching for shelter again. Again, little some again Sweet
I found myself seeking shelter agains
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