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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Casey.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I don't know if you heard. Yeah, there were some
big does in the Indiana State House yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, I did hear that the Vice president was all right, Yes,
jd Vance was in town.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now, you don't know specifically what they talked about. I mean,
you have some vagaries, like they talked about redistrict.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yeah, and probably a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And nothing says transparency like shutting the door on reporters,
putting a giant curtain up and not letting anybody see.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's going on.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
But luckily we got guys, Yes, we do, all across
the rooted plane.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We got guys in One of our guys he writes
for Politico as well as puts out the Importantville Newsletter.
His name is Adam Wren. He joins us now, Adam Wren, Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
All right, so let's start with you had two interesting
pieces yesterday in Politico related to this. First of all,
before we get to what might have happened yesterday, Mitch
Daniels came out and came out pretty forcefully against against this.
Tell us about your piece in Politico involving Mitch Daniels.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, so you know, essentially as all of this started
to percolate over the last few days, and my reporting
shows that this has actually been building for three or
four weeks now. You know, the White House reached out
to you know, their political operation reached out here to
folks in Indiana. They you know, essentially said, what do
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you guys think about this?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
You know, Braun started talking with a leadership on the
third floor of the State House, and the answer, you know,
came back, Uh, there's not a lot of appetite for
for this, and so uh, you know, they they went
back to the White House. The White House came back
and said, well, you know, let's let's all sit down,
get in a room and talk about this. So even
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though the reporting seems to have come out of nowhere
over the last week about this redistricting session, this has
been unfolding for for a while now. And you know,
I wanted to call up former Governor Mitch Daniels to
see what he thinks because he it was really the
architect of the current supermajorities in the state Senate and
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the State House back in you know, two thousand and
ten and the beginning beginning then to pass his ambitious
uh you know, education and other aspects of his agenda.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And you know, he presided in some ways over the
creation what led to the creation of the MAX. And
I reached out to him because he also wrote this
fascinating op ed in the Washington Post during our primary
that we had the big dubernatorial primary primary last year,
essentially criticizing all of the candidates, saying that they didn't
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seem to be talking about real substantive ideas right and
in some ways almost conceding that he regrets the supermajorities
in the House and the Senate and that the party
has because the state has become led by one party
rule that's not helping the state. So I thought, I
really need to get Mitch on the record here.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Call him.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We talked. He was pretty frank and pretty candid that
this is a bad idea and that he doesn't see
the point of it. He thought that the first district
where Frank Rvan is right now, is already a pretty
competitive district, the most maybe the most competitive district in
the state, and if the idea is to have you know,
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more competitive districts here, why why would you change that?
And then you know, I specifically asked him about Indianapolis
and the seventh district currently represented by Democrat Andre Carson.
And I thought, you know what, like, can you can
you abide here the cracking of the of the seventh
Congressional district. You know, he came up in politics as
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an aide to former Indianapolis Mayor Richard Luger, and you know,
was the creature of Indianapolis, lived in Indianapolis as governor.
And I wanted to hear sort of what he thought
about that, and he told me and know certain terms,
that this was quote wrong end quote goda.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I just want to introduce you back to artist. Adam
Wrinn is our guest. He's from Politico also right the
Importantville Newsletter. He spoke with Mitch Daniels the other day
about this redistricting plan for which the Vice President was
apparently in town yesterday for Adam.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Did you get a sense that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Mitch Daniels is frustrated with how like this seems weird
to say, but because he was a Republican, But how
ridiculously partisan the Republicans have become in the sense of
they're giving all this time to this, yet they don't
seem to put a lot of time into the nuts
and bolts things like say, property tax reform.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, and I do think that's correct. And Mitch
Daniels did come out in the final days of the
Good editorial race last November and endorsed Mike Brown. He
said he was the only you know, real quote pro
growth candidate in the race, and he backed him. And
you know, Mitch Daniels is like still a Republican. I
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think people lose that he's got you know, Republican ideas
and even if he disagrees occasionally on the tonal approach
like this is his ease. Very much a Republican, maybe
perhaps the most pro life governor that we've ever had,
and so still a Republican. And yeah, he is critical
I think of the supermajorities and where they have gotten us,
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even if he's friendly, you know, with some of these people.
You know, Speaker Todd Houston came up through daniels world,
and when Speaker Todd Houston decided to run, I think,
you know, Daniels, you know, was very active in his
campaign and he was still governor.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Adam, I want to switch gears real quick. A couple
minutes we have left with you, Adam Rant of Politico
is our guest. You had an interesting post yesterday. There
was film of those guys, Bray, the pro tim of
the Senate, Houston, Speaker of the House, walking down the
hallway at the State House, and you basically said something like,
based on the body language of these guys, do you
think they were thrilled about what took place yesterday? What
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have you heard about what happened in the room. What
did they discuss? Where we out with this?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah? Well I talked to someone.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
In the room and uh, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Gave me this interesting couple of interesting It wasn't just JD.
Vance who was in that room. It was the White
House Council. He was the Deputy chief of Staff, the
James Blair who uh you know runs the White House
political operation under chiefs of Staff Suzie Wilds. These people
all took personal days, uh, you know, to avoid Hatchack violations,
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traveled here, you know, in their own personal capacity, and
they were in this meeting, I mean, the White House Council.
This is a serious effort.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And what what what one person told me who was
in that room said of Bray and of Houston and abroad.
This person said, quote, they all know how much. They're
under the microscope here, uh end quote meaning that you know, essentially,
hey guys, we're watching here, the White House is watching,
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the MAGA coalition is watching. You better do what's quote
right essentially is what is what they said? So I
was this wasn't just some you know, friendly conversation. I'm
told that, Uh, you know, it was very very nice. Uh,
it was a found in the conversation. But there's some
like teeth here, like the White House.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Once is done, do you think because these guys have
come out and kind of been real skeptical of this,
do you think that they'll be able to get this done?
And how do they sell this to the public that
this is anything other than just purely partisan politics.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Well you heard Mike bron start to do that yesterday
and his Fox News appearance. He essentially said, you know,
the state has become much more republican, uh, and maybe
we ought to reflect that in the maps.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
So you're starting to hear the rationale for this, and
and look like I you know, I'm not a prognosticator,
I'm a reporter, but I am more convinced that this
is going to happen, that they're going to try to
do this uh today than I was on Wednesday. I mean,
this is this is serious theme here. Uh. You know
that the folks in the room asked for some things
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from the White House House. You know, the conversations are ongoing.
But I think right now what happens is the leaders
go back to their caucuses, try to get them on board,
and you know, ideally get to a place where they
can do a wham. You know, a wambam. Uh, you
know one day session, you know, su spending the rules,
coming back in and passing you know these maps.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, if people want to find you, Adam, read your stuff,
whether it's Importantville, Politico, all the work you do, how
can they do that?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, you'se places to go to X and find me
at Adam wren w r e n like the bird.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Adam Wrenn. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're listening to Kendl and Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Casey, we have so much to.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Get to on this soward winning number one rated radio program.
But first have I I take It's Kenel Casey Show.
By the way, I'm Rob that's Casey. If I might
take just a brief moment for personal privilege. We have
some special guests here at the studio. Michael is here
along with his wife Debbie and his nurse Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Michael, we have what's that you said? His wife I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
His mom Yes, sorry, his mom Debbie, and his wife
his nurse.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Let me try that again.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Michael is here along with his mom, Debbie and his
nurse Stephanie.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Perfect. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Casey's job in this program to say, Rob, you screwed
that up. We have mentioned Michael numerous times on our
program before Michael. While we love every single listener we have,
Michael is one of my all time favorite listeners because
Michael is very special. Michael is twenty five years old,
he has cerebral palsy, but every day he listens to
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our program. We are a part of his daily routine.
And right now Michael is here with us and he
has his I love Rob kendallsher on.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And it is such an honor that Michael and his
family make us a part of his existence every day.
Live out in the Frankfurt area, and they came all
the way from Frankfurt to downtown and sometimes travel is
a little cumbersome for them. But they love our show
so much that that they are here today. So it's
(10:11):
very we're very blessed to have them in the studio
with us.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yes, Michael's mom and I we met when we were
at the property tax rolly.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You remember that I loved it.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Had a nice, good, long conversation. So it's always a
treat to see our our listener.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So now I have all of this pressure on me
to not screw up the rest of the show because
I don't want Michael walking out of here and.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Going he disappointed, terribly disappointing. That was the worst thing.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I've always said that a horrible experience.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I shouldn't be anybody's hero or favorite person. All right,
what are we doing? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So there was some news from Eli Lilly. They said
that they have an obesity pill that has led to
more than a twelve percent weight loss. This has been
a closely watched late stage trial and they're paving their
way now for approval of this g ELP one receptor.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's always some name that no one can comprehend. I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I was just looking at it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's or for or for glillpron it's what or for
glillpron you know, if you tried.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
A third time, you might get closer.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
If they get approval for it, Uh huh, they're going
to change the name.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh totally.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I mean they would have to.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I would love to know.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Imagine right at the jingle for that, there's some.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, there's what it's got to be. This is
my medical degree coming out here. There's got to be
some sort of what it's compounded with or whatever goes
into making it. That's where they come up with the
bizarro name that you're doing a very good job trying
to pronounce yep.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But they say that on average, the test subjects lose
about twelve percent of their body weight, or roughly twenty
seven pounds, and they see results at seventy two weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So the great conversation right now with this stuff in
this country, because obviously there's a variety of drugs that
are geared towards this is what's the long term ramifications
going to be because any there are there are many
people who struggle biologically, genetically whatever with with weight issues,
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and there are some people who struggle in the sense of, hey,
you're genetically inclined to put on a weight, you really
gotta watch what you eat. Like I've said, I've been
as high as one hundred and eighty and I've been
as low as one hundred and forty five. And right
now I'm at my driver's license weight, oh, which is
one fifty five ish.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What I had for dinner last night.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My mother made chicken fingers and brought them over, So
I'm probably above the driver's license weight this morning. I'll
make up for starving myself the rest of the day.
But the point is, like, there's some people who, hey,
you better be careful about that, right, and then there's
some people who have serious health ramifications because of it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And so what will be fascinating is how do they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Square long term the immediate benefits of ste.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Short term benefits? Do they outweigh any long term consequence?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Right, Like, like, hey, you're losing all this weight, which
is great and not even is it like some people
want to because oh, it's gonna make me look better.
A lot of people there's a real legitimate health benefit
of it in the in the immediate, but the body
I don't think is design in a rapid fashion. You know,
they always talk about, hey, if you're going to diet
if you're going to get on a plan, you don't
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want to try to lose twenty pounds in a month.
For most people, you want to try, you know, like
Hammer when he does his weight loss thing, he lost
fifty pounds, but it was over the course of a year,
and he was trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Lose all amounts incrementally the healthy way rather than a crash.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So you do wonder, hey, five years.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
From now or ten years from now, is there's some
sort of long term ramification on the human body that
we don't know about yet.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Okay, Now they're saying that this drug or for gore,
for love you're trying.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know, I've got bless you for putting the comfort in.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Morpho, that it also will lead to reductions in cholesterol
and tryglycerides and also help with blood pressure. Now they're
planning to submit it for regulatory review by the end
of this year. The trial began in twenty three. They
had over three thousand adults with obesity and weight related
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medical problems who did not have diabetes as test subjects
for this.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, I learned something yesterday, since we're talking about medical stuff. Yeah,
someone I know shared this with me. A friend and
they said you should mention this on your show, and
I said, okay, I will. They were amazed that they
could get an online doctor's appointment at four in the morning,
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like they had some low level cold or flu or
whatever and whatever their pharmacy is, you know, you can
get the what do they call it, the minute clinic
where you can go in if you got some like
I'm not trying to dismiss anybody's illnesses or order, but
low hanging fruit, like somebody could provide some and you know, subscribe,
prescribe some antibiotics or whatever, yeah, and go in your
merry way. Well, the minute clinic, all the minute clinics
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in this person's area were booked. But then there was
an online version of this and at four in the morning,
this person was able to see I guess they got
on their cellular telephone or whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
With a doctor yes or something, and they said the person.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Asked them all the questions, they went through the whole rigmarole.
They said, I'm going to provide this for you. I
guess they have some sort of safeguard around it, like
they try to expedite the process, like even a couple
of days you're not feeling better than you have to
go in person to the actual clinic. But I didn't
even know. I knew the minute clinic was a thing.
I didn't know the virtual thing was a thing. Oh
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and by the way, it's open, I guess twenty four
hours a date, which I didn't know that either I
didn't and it would blew me away.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You're giving me news because typically it takes forever to
get into a doctor's office. Yeah, you make an appointment,
they're like, yeah, in two to three weeks or three
to four months if it's a special Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was blown away by this that they said it
was a very quick process. And the person, now, will
it cure all their ill This is don't know. I
suppose that's up to see whether they how good they
are at their job, or whether the medicine works or whatever.
But this person was in utter amazement, as was I
hearing this story. Ye that there is indeed a doctor
that or not a doctor but a nurse practitioner or
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I don't think this was an they said it was
not an MD, okay, but somebody who is like a
help to them, give them some sort of substance for
their ailment. At four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Okay, Now, speaking of the middle of the night, most
Americans climb into bed at what time?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Most Americans?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Most American now is that I'm in about at what time?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Average bedtime?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Ten pm?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You're so close. You've got the right right hour.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh, I got to get the minute right too, like
ten thirteen.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's ten thirty six. That is the average. I guess
that you were close.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I was in the hour. I should get credit for that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
The average time people go to bed ten thirty six pm,
But their brain don't quite get the memo. According to
a new survey, it takes the average person forty two
minutes to finally fall asleep, landing most people in dreamland
at eleven eighteen.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
One of the problems that I have is we they're
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Speaker 4 (17:19):
You fall asleep on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's so comfortable that I.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes, great out And it is like.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Because my wife has this issue too, And the other
day she's like, do we have a problem that we
keep not falling asleep in our bed and we keep sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
On the couchs I was like, well, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That happens with a lot of people who have a
young child at home, because you work all day and
then you're you know, maintaining your home and chasing the
kid around and by the time you put her to bed,
you sit down on the couch, you turn everything off
for a few minutes, and then you just can't help yourself.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
My kid has started brushing her hair now that's milestone day.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, big doing those little brown.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She's very into the comb now.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And we've also entered the phase of when she so
most of our outing stones.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I have a two year old.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
When she she will pick random things and decide those
are going in her hand, and then you have to
decide do you want to lose at It's like putting
your arm in a tank at the zoo, Like what
if you reached into the shark tank. You know, you
might get to pet the shark, but you could also
lose an arm. Once she has the thing in her hand,
you just have to decide do you want to lose
risk losing an extremity or do you just want to
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let her hang on to the thing. So for sometimes
like an hour, she might just walk around with something
in her hand, and as I put her in her
car seat to go to daycare today, she had the
comb still in her hand, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Said, good luck with that comb.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I hope it makes it home. She brushing her own teeth.
Yet she doing that, she'd.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Still needs help.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
She is not a fan of the teeth brushing. And
every day that is some fight. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't know what the conflict between the Palestinians and
the Israelis looks like on the battle field, but the
conflict between because my wife is the toothbrusher, I am
the childholder, and and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Who's the book reader? Is that?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Are you still keeping a journal for her? Yes, every day,
every day.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now it's gotten shorter because simply, like you know, when
they're little. First of all, okay, all right, we got
time to do this real quick. Most of our audience
knows this. But when the day I found out my daughter,
my daughter was a girl, so the ultrasound that I
started a journal because we had the names picked out.
So I said, okay, I'm not going to do this
till this kid has a name. So cause I got
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to write, you know, dear so, and so I wouldn't
like dear blank, and so every day since whatever that was,
I don't know, six months in or whatever time you
figure that out.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I have kept a daily journal of her life.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Now, the first three or four months were simply just
ramblings of a madman. So she'll this will be the
first thing she'll read. And then when your daughter's born,
you know, or your child is born, the first whatever.
There's all these things that are happening, and it's fast
and furious. Well now we've read to stage where there's
less fast and furious, because while there are milestones, they
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don't happen quite lyst frequently. And I only see her
for about four hours a day because she's in the daycare.
But yes, every day I write some sort of thing
that took took place.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And I know every teacher listening wants to know, are
you reading to her?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I do, my wife does, probably not often as we should,
just because you know. Well, also see, this is the thing,
and anybody with the two year old who has had
a two year old, you'll back me up on this.
And I've said this before. My kid is super smart
in the sense that she has recognized the punishment can
only extend to a certain point.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And it is a risk reward thing.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Debbie is laughing because she has kids that this is
a risk reward thing, which is she knows if I
want to do something, I know there could be punishment
for it. But the thing I want to do, I
want to do it more than the punishment.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I like.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
She doesn't understand the law. She doesn't understand that there
are limits to which you but she does know.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know how, but she knows.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This is the worst that's gonna happen to me, and
I want to do that thing more than the worst
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's worth it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Okay, So our guy Indie reporter helped us out on
this one.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, well somebody tagged Indie reporter and also Governor Mike
Brawn and you and I in a picture of what
is called a flock camera.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, So for those of you try to figure out
it's the first of all, it's the Kennel and Casey show.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm Rob that's Casey.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
When we mentioned there is an account that we are
fond of that does a ton of research on Indiana,
politics and government. It's Indie Reporter at Indie Underscore Reporter Underscore.
If you're on Twitter, is the account Steven Whitmer and
a group of other people run that account, and we
reference that account, you know, quite a bit on this
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on program. They do phenomenal work. If you're at all
interested in Indiana politics and government. They don't, they don't.
They do it all free. They're just citizen journalists and
they do it for coupons for our piece, coupons on
their on their spare time. So anytime there's something involving
in the city of Indianapolis or anything, if we're not aware,
I will send Steven a message and say, hey, what
do you know about this? And there's these what are
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They're like the camera's on a pole, right, They're popping
up all over the place. And we were like, what
are these? And he said, oh, yeah, that's simple. They're
called flock cameras, right, Is that what they are?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, that's what they're called.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I guess what they can pull footage off of
these cameras.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Think they're designed to read license plates. I think that's
the premise of them, is that they can look identify
automobiles in particular license plates, so that if there is
a crime that's committed, they're trying to track down if
somebody was at a certain location at a certain time.
It makes it easier on the law enforcement to be
able to get that information.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And they're solar powered, which is why they have that little, yeah,
flat panel.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You've probably seen these. I don't, or maybe you.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Haven't seen them and you've driven right by.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, yeah you didn't, just didn't know what they were.
I don't. I don't. Yeah, but I think they're outside
of Indianapolis now too.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think the people are reporting them all over the state,
in all over in other locations. Now, there's a theory,
do we do tinfoil hat? If I camera here, I'd say,
pssed me that tinfoil hat. There's a theory that the
reason they went to the specialty the black license played
with the white lettering is they'll be easier to read
with the flock with the flock cameras.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, So I wonder is this something that like they're
monitoring people's speed and they could be giving tickets with these.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Or I'm sure it's not for our benefit. Sure it's
not for us.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You don't think so search out so they can just
give us away to some fabulous prize. Somebody in the
Brandon and the YouTube chat said the flock cameras have
been in Indiana for ten years minimum.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Okay, but I mean they must.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Be enhancing in stature because people or in number, because
people are noticing them more often now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Okay, And somebody else is saying that they've been used
on college campuses for a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So here's the thing, Casey, Well, you know I've you know,
I love the stories, and one of the stories I'm
into now.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think this show's been around for a while. It's
on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
By the way, Speaking of Hulu, I've been watching the
Hulu because that Delphi documentary.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Did you watch it on the Hulu?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I'm not away through it, but our guy, Doug Carter,
the former State Police superintendent, is all over that documentary.
He's coming in Tuesday and to talk about Delphi, and
he's going to lay out some interesting things that I
don't think a lot of people knew about Delphi. It'll
be fascinating to get Doug's thoughts on on Delphi. Obviously,
maybe nobody more familiar with the case than him, but.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
On Hulu.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There is a program I think it's an older program now,
but it's about how they use Boy, isn't this timely
digital forensics to solve crimes? And the general theme is
how stupid the public at large with their digital device
and they always think they've outsmarted the authorities with whatever
manipulation they've done with their digital device, and then they end.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Up catching the people.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Okay, so that's my new thing that I'm watching on
the on the Hulu. And I got into this because
the digital right whatever, they're taking pictures and doing this,
and it's amazing all the things that are being monitored now.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's very hard.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You've got to really be a top flight criminal to
pull off anything in the public at large in the
modern era.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Have you been watching the Delphi docuseries on Hulu as well?
I just answered that you got halfway through. Has it
changed your mind about anything?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just made it to the point where they introduced
the wife of Richard Allen. It's so weird because they'll
show old timey photos of old timing, like eighteen hundreds,
but like Richard Allen, I don't know, he's in his fifties.
It's got to be nineties or late eighties or whatever,
and he's like, looks like just a totally normal dude
(25:59):
with this kid, And it's so weird to see this
guy who all you've seen of him are the mugshot
and the sketch drawings and whatever courtroom whatever was available,
and this like little, just lifeless guy and then you
see him in all these photos and it's like, Wow,
you don't you don't even pause to think about, like,
(26:19):
this dude had a totally seemingly I guess, normal life
before he was involved in all of this, either actually
involved or framed or whatever your opinion on it is.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Coming up at eleven?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Is it eleven? Josh Bain's going to join U.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Josh Baine will be with us.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
One thing that we're going to ask him about.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is, by the way, I didn't even catch up, and
he's a Republican member of the City County Council here
in Indianapolis, right.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And one of the things that we're going to ask
him about is how the City County Council Republicans they
want to eliminate a Marion County residency requirement.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And this is foremost city and county.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Employees, this has been going on since what nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Okay, so we're going to ask Josh why they're doing this,
because it comes off as and this can't be the
answer that like you're leading be able to believe the
talent pool of Marion County is so incompetent that we
can't like hire Marrion Keutty people anymore. This is actually
a common thing, you know where you'll see this. This
is actually a very common thing in school districts that
they require the teachers to.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Live in the school district.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know why they do this case?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Why Well, if you were to have a school referendum
and only people who live in the district you can vote,
wouldn't you want as many people who are going to
vote exactly as you want. Like, I know, somebody's like
snickering as I say this. I know I live and
beat a referendum in a school district where teachers were
I don't know if they still are required to live
(27:41):
in that school district. So that is a common thing
that I think is happening now. And like again, if
that does make sense, if your whole goal is to
be able to kind of tip the voting balance, in
one way or another.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
A part of getting the job ears you got to
live in this you live in the school district.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
What's been going on since nineteen seventy seven employees got
live in Marion County within six months of being hired.
There are exceptions to this, and that includes interns, firefighters,
IMPD officers, nine one one operators, and other.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Specialized skilled positions.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And one of the things they're saying is that, as
you mentioned, this would expand the recruitment pool.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, it does make sense that you would want people
who are paid off of tax dollars to have skin
in the game of where they're working, right, I mean
that doesn't seem nefarious or bad the.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Idea of it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Right, Like you you are paid by tax dollars, we
want you to have some skin in the game in
the community. Like if you're asking for money for something,
it's essentially your money you're asking for now. Like you said,
there are exemptions with law enforcement and firefighters. So like
my beloved neighbor, fireman Scott, he's a Wayne Township firefighter
(28:56):
and he's great at his job. You know, you would
you not want to tell somebody who is skilled in
that that asset though or skill set. Yeah, boy, you
know when it comes to life saving apparatuses or momentary
things where it can make a difference whether somebody lives
or dies that you know, we'd love to hire you,
(29:17):
but you just don't live in the in the right area.
So I would get it with that. But I think
what Josh is going to lay out here is they're
having trouble getting people period.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, and critics argue though that taxpayer funded salaries are
going to be leaving the city then, so they'll just
come in here to work in the sice.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's the argument is that. Now, well we'll get into that, Josh. Yeah,
why don't we take a break. Hammer Hammer will have
something inspiring for us, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Coming up next, it's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He is one half of the number one rated Hammer
and Nigel Afternoon program. Here on WIBC. Jason Hammer, Hello, you, Oh,
look at the VIP crowd you got in here.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It's like your gut Feld Now you have a live
studio audience.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, if you missed it earlier, our super fan Michael,
one of my all time favorite listeners. He's twenty five
and he has cerebral palsy, but he loves our program.
He listens every day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He got the I Love Rob Kendall T shirt rock
in the shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
His mom, Debbie, and his nurse Stephanie are here with
him today, and I just it always warms my heart
to see Michael, because Michael is just an awesome, awesome dude,
and I'm so thrilled they came all the way from
Frankfurt to be with us today.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Now, what I've noticed from running the merchandise store is
that when somebody buys an I Love Rob Kendall T shirt,
they usually also buy the I Hate Rob shirt.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So what is it? Store?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dot Hammer and Nigel dot com correct and all of
my see. The great thing about buying and I Hate
Rob Kendall shirt is none of the money goes to me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You're not helping me. I don't get any money from this.
It just goes to the provider and a.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Charity yep the the Project Rescue, which fights human sex
trafficking across the globe. Can't get any answers on EPSTEIN.
But those people are out there doing the right, doing
the work to try to prevent it from happening to
other people.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, that's what we.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Kind of talked about with Tommy Larin yesterday when she
called in. It's like, I know, everybody's super upset about
the Epstein stuff, and no matter what happens with Gallaine Maxwell,
let's say blank, if you do blank, if you don't right, right,
if you give her immunity, everybody's going to give Trump crap.
If you don't give her immunity, what are you trying
to hide? There's no win because they've botched it so
bad at this point. But if you're really that passionate
(31:30):
about the whole thing, then you can donate to groups
like Rob's because this stuff is still happening. It's not
a hoax yet, it's still happening.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, And that's one of the great things. Like obviously
Life Church where we attend, they partner with Project Rescue,
so technically the money I get it goes to them.
They have a special fund to set up and then
they acquire funds throughout the year and then give that
to that organization, so they're able to mass sort of
mass fundraise for those people who are out there and
raise a lot of money for them.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Shirts on our store. We help no one. We help nobody.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
They all go to my pocket, which will probably go
to Vegas at some point.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just want to make that perfectly clear.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Tank tops are now up there, Casey, you can get
that tank top.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
What did they say?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Hammer and Nigel show multiple colors sizes. I noticed you
never wore the tank top I bought you for Christmas,
so I thought maybe you were waiting for a hammer
in Nigel I was.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I was, thank you for forgetting that.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You'll be the one person going to Las Vegas eventually,
right right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I posted about this the other day.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Man, Vegas is just nickel and diming people to the
point to where even dudes like me are like a
little hesitant to go anymore. I mean, the room rates
are still somewhat low, but they hit you with a
resort for which is crap, and it's usually more than
your room, right, yeah, that's right. And then your food costs.
(32:51):
I mean, just it's so over the top.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
It really cuts into your bank roll, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It does.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
The money gambling drinks, right, that used to be a thing.
As long as you were gambling. They come by with
a free beer or something. You know, you might not
be able to get like a macallan or something, but
you could get a Miller Lite. Now it's hardly that
way at all. And wrong glass right right, it's a
it's tough man. But Vegas did that to themselves. They
(33:19):
just nickel and dimed people so much that tourism is
down eleven place.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It seems like they lost sight of their their customer,
their focus. I mean, it used to be a place
where anybody could go and have a good time. Right
now they're trying to be so exclusive that they're pricing
people out.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And normally, when you see a situation where prices go up,
take the airlines, for example, you see a higher class
of people. Right You normally don't see fights where a
wig is ripped off on a Delta flight. That's normally
a reserved for our fine friends at Spirit. Yeah, but
that's when we took to Vegas. I took it to
(33:57):
my last trip to I flew Spirit, had great experience.
But let's be honest. You know, Spirit is the waffle
house of the airlines.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Did you get hit in the head with the back
of peanuts?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
But Vegas the cost of gone up, but so has
like the total degenerates on the strip.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I know it's sin city, but you used.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
To not see like the fights and the shootings on
the strip like that kind of weed.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Man is everywhere too.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
And I'm fine if people want to do whatever they
want to do in their own home, you know, in case.
I've talked about this at length, and I'm fine with
that being legalized. It doesn't affect me. Do whatever you want.
I load that it is being done, and it should
never be allowed to be done in public because.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Vegas, Vegas stinks. It does.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
You can't have that Ocean's eleven moment in front of
the Beilagio where you just want to like soak it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
In and you know, watch it without feeling like you're
in between Snoop and Willie Nelson, like it's so over
the top. But I'm with Rob, I'm not anti weed.
If you want to legal.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There, they do have dispensaries there right, but there are
states that have it legal.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
But at least you have to do it indoors. You're
supposed to Vegas. It's the full on Wild West, and
I get it, it's sin city, but man, it's taken
a downward turn.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Do you bet on the pregames last night the Colts.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Sure I did because I'm a degenerate and I'm not
a parlay guy, as you know. But if you're going
to be a full degenerate, you have to go parlay
on pre season.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Now, real quick, explain to the folks what a parlay
is who may not be sure as familiar as you
are with the betting.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Normally in sports, you would bet just one bet.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose.
A parlay is when you have multiple bets together. Now
you have to get them all right to win, but
the payout is much larger, so it's all or nothing.
We had the Ravens plus six and a half. We
checked that box, and we had the under last night,
which we did not hit. We got beat on a
punt return to the house that cost us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, it's and you have said on our Degenerates next
Door Sports Betting podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
New episode now available College Football Futures Week one. I take.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I weigh in on whether I think not Dame will
win over under ten and a half games this year. Casey,
I'm going to Purdue Bets produce, so we're checking all
your boxes. We did it's the Casey family addition of
next door right, uh, and I we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Win them all, by the way, I hope you went
that way.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Notre Dame. Have you seen the schedule?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well, it is Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
They always lose this, there's always She wasn't talking about Purdue, right, Well,
exactly did we we end this conversation on this on
the podcast where I said every year there is one
game that notes you have to factor that in that
there's one game that they lose that You're like, how
how in the world did they.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
There's always a Marshall game or something.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, and last year was some directional school or something
that they lost to and they almost fired the coach
and then they ran the table the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
But how about our Notre Dame alum? Looking pretty good
in the Colts game last night.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Riley Leonard, Eh, what game were you watching?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Eh?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, did you have beer goggles on? What? What game
were you watching?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'll be a homer. I'm just happy.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Bet you were the mother during sports that everybody your
kids scored for the wrong team.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
No, I wasn't like that, rob very competitive, Sir.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Miley Leonard did as exactly what we thought as we
broke down on the podet.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
See, the thing about college football is he's fast and
he could run over people. You ain't faster. You ain't
running over people by NFL standards. And they're faster, they're bigger. Okay,
So what's his face is hurt?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Again? There's no surprise there. Just see the way that
finger was bending.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Anthony Richardson's I had that happened to me in a
basketball game. It doesn't really hurt, but you're like, oh,
that's a problem, and they pop.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It back into place, but then it swells up. It
took a couple of weeks for me to be able
to play basketball.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, I have separated the fun fact, Rob Kendall, funback,
I've separated both of my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Really at some point in carrying this radio station, Rob, is.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
That what it is?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Let's see, I separated his shoulder in a basketball game,
separated again in another basketball game.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Separated to say, this is all.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
The left shoulder fell out of a tree one time,
did the left shoulder three times? And then I separated
my right shoulder fell on a hockey rnk so Dereck
Rose So I have, like, I'm sure it's hanging on
by a.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
This is like second or third date material, like will
you show me your scars?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
But do you have any scars?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
But uh so, But let's same thing with separating your shoulder.
It doesn't hurt your arm just feels very heavy.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Then yes.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And the key is you can't panic if you can
pop it back in and you know what you're doing.
You can't panic, though you can make it much worse.
You've got to just hang there. The time I fell
out of a tree, I was in my I was
a twenty year old man who still climb trees.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I fell out of the tree at my house backwards too,
sounds right. And I was laying there like I'm here
by myself. What do I do?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I popped it back it. You just can't panic. There
just no panic. I was laying on the ground and
I was like, I've been through this before.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I went to a med check and they just popped
it back and then had to wear a splint. That's
what I learned from the first I did it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Popped it back in myself the first time when I
was a teenager playing basketball, and they I went to
the emergency room and they're like, you are I did
all the work. There's no we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Go home.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And so from then on my old man saw what
it cost and was like, if that happens again, pop.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It back in.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Now you know what to do.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Mike got a hammer out. I was trying to fix it.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What do you have coming up today?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Don Felder, formerly of The Egress, joining the Hammer and Night.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Guess I got the big, the big, the big thing
with Kevin Cronin and then sticks.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
So we've got him, We've got Breitbart editor in chief
Alex Marlow.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Don Felder, Yes, that's amazing. Can I just sit on
your show this lady come on in for me tonight?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Here it is right, thank you Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey.
It's ninety three w ib C.
Casey.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I don't know if you heard. Yeah, there were some
big does in the Indiana State House yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, I did hear that the Vice president was all right, Yes,
jd Vance was in town.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now, you don't know specifically what they talked about. I mean,
you have some vagaries, like they talked about redistrict.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yeah, and probably a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And nothing says transparency like shutting the door on reporters,
putting a giant curtain up and not letting anybody see.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's going on.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
But luckily we got guys, Yes, we do, all across
the rooted plane.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We got guys in One of our guys he writes
for Politico as well as puts out the Importantville Newsletter.
His name is Adam Wren. He joins us now, Adam Wren, Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
All right, so let's start with you had two interesting
pieces yesterday in Politico related to this. First of all,
before we get to what might have happened yesterday, Mitch
Daniels came out and came out pretty forcefully against against this.
Tell us about your piece in Politico involving Mitch Daniels.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, so you know, essentially as all of this started
to percolate over the last few days, and my reporting
shows that this has actually been building for three or
four weeks now. You know, the White House reached out
to you know, their political operation reached out here to
folks in Indiana. They you know, essentially said, what do
(01:20):
you guys think about this?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
You know, Braun started talking with a leadership on the
third floor of the State House, and the answer, you know,
came back, Uh, there's not a lot of appetite for
for this, and so uh, you know, they they went
back to the White House. The White House came back
and said, well, you know, let's let's all sit down,
get in a room and talk about this. So even
(01:43):
though the reporting seems to have come out of nowhere
over the last week about this redistricting session, this has
been unfolding for for a while now. And you know,
I wanted to call up former Governor Mitch Daniels to
see what he thinks because he it was really the
architect of the current supermajorities in the state Senate and
(02:03):
the State House back in you know, two thousand and
ten and the beginning beginning then to pass his ambitious
uh you know, education and other aspects of his agenda.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And you know, he presided in some ways over the
creation what led to the creation of the MAX. And
I reached out to him because he also wrote this
fascinating op ed in the Washington Post during our primary
that we had the big dubernatorial primary primary last year,
essentially criticizing all of the candidates, saying that they didn't
(02:39):
seem to be talking about real substantive ideas right and
in some ways almost conceding that he regrets the supermajorities
in the House and the Senate and that the party
has because the state has become led by one party
rule that's not helping the state. So I thought, I
really need to get Mitch on the record here.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Call him.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We talked. He was pretty frank and pretty candid that
this is a bad idea and that he doesn't see
the point of it. He thought that the first district
where Frank Rvan is right now, is already a pretty
competitive district, the most maybe the most competitive district in
the state, and if the idea is to have you know,
(03:19):
more competitive districts here, why why would you change that?
And then you know, I specifically asked him about Indianapolis
and the seventh district currently represented by Democrat Andre Carson.
And I thought, you know what, like, can you can
you abide here the cracking of the of the seventh
Congressional district. You know, he came up in politics as
(03:40):
an aide to former Indianapolis Mayor Richard Luger, and you know,
was the creature of Indianapolis, lived in Indianapolis as governor.
And I wanted to hear sort of what he thought
about that, and he told me and know certain terms,
that this was quote wrong end quote goda.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I just want to introduce you back to artist. Adam
Wrinn is our guest. He's from Politico also right the
Importantville Newsletter. He spoke with Mitch Daniels the other day
about this redistricting plan for which the Vice President was
apparently in town yesterday for Adam.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Did you get a sense that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Mitch Daniels is frustrated with how like this seems weird
to say, but because he was a Republican, But how
ridiculously partisan the Republicans have become in the sense of
they're giving all this time to this, yet they don't
seem to put a lot of time into the nuts
and bolts things like say, property tax reform.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, and I do think that's correct. And Mitch
Daniels did come out in the final days of the
Good editorial race last November and endorsed Mike Brown. He
said he was the only you know, real quote pro
growth candidate in the race, and he backed him. And
you know, Mitch Daniels is like still a Republican. I
(04:57):
think people lose that he's got you know, Republican ideas
and even if he disagrees occasionally on the tonal approach
like this is his ease. Very much a Republican, maybe
perhaps the most pro life governor that we've ever had,
and so still a Republican. And yeah, he is critical
I think of the supermajorities and where they have gotten us,
(05:21):
even if he's friendly, you know, with some of these people.
You know, Speaker Todd Houston came up through daniels world,
and when Speaker Todd Houston decided to run, I think,
you know, Daniels, you know, was very active in his
campaign and he was still governor.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Adam, I want to switch gears real quick. A couple
minutes we have left with you, Adam Rant of Politico
is our guest. You had an interesting post yesterday. There
was film of those guys, Bray, the pro tim of
the Senate, Houston, Speaker of the House, walking down the
hallway at the State House, and you basically said something like,
based on the body language of these guys, do you
think they were thrilled about what took place yesterday? What
(05:56):
have you heard about what happened in the room. What
did they discuss? Where we out with this?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah? Well I talked to someone.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
In the room and uh, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Gave me this interesting couple of interesting It wasn't just JD.
Vance who was in that room. It was the White
House Council. He was the Deputy chief of Staff, the
James Blair who uh you know runs the White House
political operation under chiefs of Staff Suzie Wilds. These people
all took personal days, uh, you know, to avoid Hatchack violations,
(06:27):
traveled here, you know, in their own personal capacity, and
they were in this meeting, I mean, the White House Council.
This is a serious effort.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And what what what one person told me who was
in that room said of Bray and of Houston and abroad.
This person said, quote, they all know how much. They're
under the microscope here, uh end quote meaning that you know, essentially,
hey guys, we're watching here, the White House is watching,
(06:54):
the MAGA coalition is watching. You better do what's quote
right essentially is what is what they said? So I
was this wasn't just some you know, friendly conversation. I'm
told that, Uh, you know, it was very very nice. Uh,
it was a found in the conversation. But there's some
like teeth here, like the White House.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Once is done, do you think because these guys have
come out and kind of been real skeptical of this,
do you think that they'll be able to get this done?
And how do they sell this to the public that
this is anything other than just purely partisan politics.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Well you heard Mike bron start to do that yesterday
and his Fox News appearance. He essentially said, you know,
the state has become much more republican, uh, and maybe
we ought to reflect that in the maps.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
So you're starting to hear the rationale for this, and
and look like I you know, I'm not a prognosticator,
I'm a reporter, but I am more convinced that this
is going to happen, that they're going to try to
do this uh today than I was on Wednesday. I mean,
this is this is serious theme here. Uh. You know
that the folks in the room asked for some things
(07:59):
from the White House House. You know, the conversations are ongoing.
But I think right now what happens is the leaders
go back to their caucuses, try to get them on board,
and you know, ideally get to a place where they
can do a wham. You know, a wambam. Uh, you
know one day session, you know, su spending the rules,
coming back in and passing you know these maps.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, if people want to find you, Adam, read your stuff,
whether it's Importantville, Politico, all the work you do, how
can they do that?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, you'se places to go to X and find me
at Adam wren w r e n like the bird.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Adam Wrenn. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're listening to Kendl and Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Casey, we have so much to.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Get to on this soward winning number one rated radio program.
But first have I I take It's Kenel Casey Show.
By the way, I'm Rob that's Casey. If I might
take just a brief moment for personal privilege. We have
some special guests here at the studio. Michael is here
along with his wife Debbie and his nurse Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Michael, we have what's that you said? His wife I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
His mom Yes, sorry, his mom Debbie, and his wife
his nurse.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Let me try that again.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Michael is here along with his mom, Debbie and his
nurse Stephanie.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Perfect. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Casey's job in this program to say, Rob, you screwed
that up. We have mentioned Michael numerous times on our
program before Michael. While we love every single listener we have,
Michael is one of my all time favorite listeners because
Michael is very special. Michael is twenty five years old,
he has cerebral palsy, but every day he listens to
(09:40):
our program. We are a part of his daily routine.
And right now Michael is here with us and he
has his I love Rob kendallsher on.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And it is such an honor that Michael and his
family make us a part of his existence every day.
Live out in the Frankfurt area, and they came all
the way from Frankfurt to downtown and sometimes travel is
a little cumbersome for them. But they love our show
so much that that they are here today. So it's
(10:11):
very we're very blessed to have them in the studio
with us.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yes, Michael's mom and I we met when we were
at the property tax rolly.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You remember that I loved it.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Had a nice, good, long conversation. So it's always a
treat to see our our listener.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So now I have all of this pressure on me
to not screw up the rest of the show because
I don't want Michael walking out of here and.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Going he disappointed, terribly disappointing. That was the worst thing.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I've always said that a horrible experience.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I shouldn't be anybody's hero or favorite person. All right,
what are we doing? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So there was some news from Eli Lilly. They said
that they have an obesity pill that has led to
more than a twelve percent weight loss. This has been
a closely watched late stage trial and they're paving their
way now for approval of this g ELP one receptor.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's always some name that no one can comprehend. I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I was just looking at it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's or for or for glillpron it's what or for
glillpron you know, if you tried.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
A third time, you might get closer.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
If they get approval for it, Uh huh, they're going
to change the name.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh totally.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I mean they would have to.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I would love to know.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Imagine right at the jingle for that, there's some.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, there's what it's got to be. This is
my medical degree coming out here. There's got to be
some sort of what it's compounded with or whatever goes
into making it. That's where they come up with the
bizarro name that you're doing a very good job trying
to pronounce yep.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But they say that on average, the test subjects lose
about twelve percent of their body weight, or roughly twenty
seven pounds, and they see results at seventy two weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So the great conversation right now with this stuff in
this country, because obviously there's a variety of drugs that
are geared towards this is what's the long term ramifications
going to be because any there are there are many
people who struggle biologically, genetically whatever with with weight issues,
(12:14):
and there are some people who struggle in the sense of, hey,
you're genetically inclined to put on a weight, you really
gotta watch what you eat. Like I've said, I've been
as high as one hundred and eighty and I've been
as low as one hundred and forty five. And right
now I'm at my driver's license weight, oh, which is
one fifty five ish.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What I had for dinner last night.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My mother made chicken fingers and brought them over, So
I'm probably above the driver's license weight this morning. I'll
make up for starving myself the rest of the day.
But the point is, like, there's some people who, hey,
you better be careful about that, right, and then there's
some people who have serious health ramifications because of it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And so what will be fascinating is how do they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Square long term the immediate benefits of ste.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Short term benefits? Do they outweigh any long term consequence?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Right, Like, like, hey, you're losing all this weight, which
is great and not even is it like some people
want to because oh, it's gonna make me look better.
A lot of people there's a real legitimate health benefit
of it in the in the immediate, but the body
I don't think is design in a rapid fashion. You know,
they always talk about, hey, if you're going to diet
if you're going to get on a plan, you don't
(13:20):
want to try to lose twenty pounds in a month.
For most people, you want to try, you know, like
Hammer when he does his weight loss thing, he lost
fifty pounds, but it was over the course of a year,
and he was trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Lose all amounts incrementally the healthy way rather than a crash.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So you do wonder, hey, five years.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
From now or ten years from now, is there's some
sort of long term ramification on the human body that
we don't know about yet.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Okay, Now they're saying that this drug or for gore,
for love you're trying.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know, I've got bless you for putting the comfort in.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Morpho, that it also will lead to reductions in cholesterol
and tryglycerides and also help with blood pressure. Now they're
planning to submit it for regulatory review by the end
of this year. The trial began in twenty three. They
had over three thousand adults with obesity and weight related
(14:14):
medical problems who did not have diabetes as test subjects
for this.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, I learned something yesterday, since we're talking about medical stuff. Yeah,
someone I know shared this with me. A friend and
they said you should mention this on your show, and
I said, okay, I will. They were amazed that they
could get an online doctor's appointment at four in the morning,
(14:40):
like they had some low level cold or flu or
whatever and whatever their pharmacy is, you know, you can
get the what do they call it, the minute clinic
where you can go in if you got some like
I'm not trying to dismiss anybody's illnesses or order, but
low hanging fruit, like somebody could provide some and you know, subscribe,
prescribe some antibiotics or whatever, yeah, and go in your
merry way. Well, the minute clinic, all the minute clinics
(15:04):
in this person's area were booked. But then there was
an online version of this and at four in the morning,
this person was able to see I guess they got
on their cellular telephone or whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
With a doctor yes or something, and they said the person.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Asked them all the questions, they went through the whole rigmarole.
They said, I'm going to provide this for you. I
guess they have some sort of safeguard around it, like
they try to expedite the process, like even a couple
of days you're not feeling better than you have to
go in person to the actual clinic. But I didn't
even know. I knew the minute clinic was a thing.
I didn't know the virtual thing was a thing. Oh
(15:38):
and by the way, it's open, I guess twenty four
hours a date, which I didn't know that either I
didn't and it would blew me away.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You're giving me news because typically it takes forever to
get into a doctor's office. Yeah, you make an appointment,
they're like, yeah, in two to three weeks or three
to four months if it's a special Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was blown away by this that they said it
was a very quick process. And the person, now, will
it cure all their ill This is don't know. I
suppose that's up to see whether they how good they
are at their job, or whether the medicine works or whatever.
But this person was in utter amazement, as was I
hearing this story. Ye that there is indeed a doctor
that or not a doctor but a nurse practitioner or
(16:15):
I don't think this was an they said it was
not an MD, okay, but somebody who is like a
help to them, give them some sort of substance for
their ailment. At four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Okay, Now, speaking of the middle of the night, most
Americans climb into bed at what time?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Most Americans?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Most American now is that I'm in about at what time?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Average bedtime?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Ten pm?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You're so close. You've got the right right hour.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh, I got to get the minute right too, like
ten thirteen.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's ten thirty six. That is the average. I guess
that you were close.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I was in the hour. I should get credit for that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
The average time people go to bed ten thirty six pm,
But their brain don't quite get the memo. According to
a new survey, it takes the average person forty two
minutes to finally fall asleep, landing most people in dreamland
at eleven eighteen.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
One of the problems that I have is we they're
a fine WIBC sponsor, Thompson Furniture spencer, our man spencer,
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Speaker 4 (17:19):
You fall asleep on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's so comfortable that I.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yes, great out And it is like.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Because my wife has this issue too, And the other
day she's like, do we have a problem that we
keep not falling asleep in our bed and we keep sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
On the couchs I was like, well, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That happens with a lot of people who have a
young child at home, because you work all day and
then you're you know, maintaining your home and chasing the
kid around and by the time you put her to bed,
you sit down on the couch, you turn everything off
for a few minutes, and then you just can't help yourself.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
You fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
My kid has started brushing her hair now that's milestone day.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, big doing those little brown.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She's very into the comb now.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And we've also entered the phase of when she so
most of our outing stones.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I have a two year old.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
When she she will pick random things and decide those
are going in her hand, and then you have to
decide do you want to lose at It's like putting
your arm in a tank at the zoo, Like what
if you reached into the shark tank. You know, you
might get to pet the shark, but you could also
lose an arm. Once she has the thing in her hand,
you just have to decide do you want to lose
risk losing an extremity or do you just want to
(18:29):
let her hang on to the thing. So for sometimes
like an hour, she might just walk around with something
in her hand, and as I put her in her
car seat to go to daycare today, she had the
comb still in her hand, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Said, good luck with that comb.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I hope it makes it home. She brushing her own teeth.
Yet she doing that, she'd.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Still needs help.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
She is not a fan of the teeth brushing. And
every day that is some fight. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't know what the conflict between the Palestinians and
the Israelis looks like on the battle field, but the
conflict between because my wife is the toothbrusher, I am
the childholder, and and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Who's the book reader? Is that?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Are you still keeping a journal for her? Yes, every day,
every day.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now it's gotten shorter because simply, like you know, when
they're little. First of all, okay, all right, we got
time to do this real quick. Most of our audience
knows this. But when the day I found out my daughter,
my daughter was a girl, so the ultrasound that I
started a journal because we had the names picked out.
So I said, okay, I'm not going to do this
till this kid has a name. So cause I got
(19:30):
to write, you know, dear so, and so I wouldn't
like dear blank, and so every day since whatever that was,
I don't know, six months in or whatever time you
figure that out.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I have kept a daily journal of her life.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Now, the first three or four months were simply just
ramblings of a madman. So she'll this will be the
first thing she'll read. And then when your daughter's born,
you know, or your child is born, the first whatever.
There's all these things that are happening, and it's fast
and furious. Well now we've read to stage where there's
less fast and furious, because while there are milestones, they
(20:04):
don't happen quite lyst frequently. And I only see her
for about four hours a day because she's in the daycare.
But yes, every day I write some sort of thing
that took took place.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And I know every teacher listening wants to know, are
you reading to her?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I do, my wife does, probably not often as we should,
just because you know. Well, also see, this is the thing,
and anybody with the two year old who has had
a two year old, you'll back me up on this.
And I've said this before. My kid is super smart
in the sense that she has recognized the punishment can
only extend to a certain point.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And it is a risk reward thing.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Debbie is laughing because she has kids that this is
a risk reward thing, which is she knows if I
want to do something, I know there could be punishment
for it. But the thing I want to do, I
want to do it more than the punishment.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I like.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
She doesn't understand the law. She doesn't understand that there
are limits to which you but she does know.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know how, but she knows.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This is the worst that's gonna happen to me, and
I want to do that thing more than the worst
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's worth it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Okay, So our guy Indie reporter helped us out on
this one.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, well somebody tagged Indie reporter and also Governor Mike
Brawn and you and I in a picture of what
is called a flock camera.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, So for those of you try to figure out
it's the first of all, it's the Kennel and Casey show.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm Rob that's Casey.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
When we mentioned there is an account that we are
fond of that does a ton of research on Indiana,
politics and government. It's Indie Reporter at Indie Underscore Reporter Underscore.
If you're on Twitter, is the account Steven Whitmer and
a group of other people run that account, and we
reference that account, you know, quite a bit on this
(21:59):
on program. They do phenomenal work. If you're at all
interested in Indiana politics and government. They don't, they don't.
They do it all free. They're just citizen journalists and
they do it for coupons for our piece, coupons on
their on their spare time. So anytime there's something involving
in the city of Indianapolis or anything, if we're not aware,
I will send Steven a message and say, hey, what
do you know about this? And there's these what are
(22:22):
They're like the camera's on a pole, right, They're popping
up all over the place. And we were like, what
are these? And he said, oh, yeah, that's simple. They're
called flock cameras, right, Is that what they are?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, that's what they're called.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I guess what they can pull footage off of
these cameras.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Think they're designed to read license plates. I think that's
the premise of them, is that they can look identify
automobiles in particular license plates, so that if there is
a crime that's committed, they're trying to track down if
somebody was at a certain location at a certain time.
It makes it easier on the law enforcement to be
able to get that information.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And they're solar powered, which is why they have that little, yeah,
flat panel.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You've probably seen these. I don't, or maybe you.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Haven't seen them and you've driven right by.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, yeah you didn't, just didn't know what they were.
I don't. I don't. Yeah, but I think they're outside
of Indianapolis now too.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think the people are reporting them all over the state,
in all over in other locations. Now, there's a theory,
do we do tinfoil hat? If I camera here, I'd say,
pssed me that tinfoil hat. There's a theory that the
reason they went to the specialty the black license played
with the white lettering is they'll be easier to read
with the flock with the flock cameras.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, So I wonder is this something that like they're
monitoring people's speed and they could be giving tickets with these.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Or I'm sure it's not for our benefit. Sure it's
not for us.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You don't think so search out so they can just
give us away to some fabulous prize. Somebody in the
Brandon and the YouTube chat said the flock cameras have
been in Indiana for ten years minimum.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Okay, but I mean they must.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Be enhancing in stature because people or in number, because
people are noticing them more often now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Okay, And somebody else is saying that they've been used
on college campuses for a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So here's the thing, Casey, Well, you know I've you know,
I love the stories, and one of the stories I'm
into now.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I think this show's been around for a while. It's
on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
By the way, Speaking of Hulu, I've been watching the
Hulu because that Delphi documentary.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Did you watch it on the Hulu?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And I'm not away through it, but our guy, Doug Carter,
the former State Police superintendent, is all over that documentary.
He's coming in Tuesday and to talk about Delphi, and
he's going to lay out some interesting things that I
don't think a lot of people knew about Delphi. It'll
be fascinating to get Doug's thoughts on on Delphi. Obviously,
maybe nobody more familiar with the case than him, but.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
On Hulu.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There is a program I think it's an older program now,
but it's about how they use Boy, isn't this timely
digital forensics to solve crimes? And the general theme is
how stupid the public at large with their digital device
and they always think they've outsmarted the authorities with whatever
manipulation they've done with their digital device, and then they end.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Up catching the people.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Okay, so that's my new thing that I'm watching on
the on the Hulu. And I got into this because
the digital right whatever, they're taking pictures and doing this,
and it's amazing all the things that are being monitored now.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's very hard.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You've got to really be a top flight criminal to
pull off anything in the public at large in the
modern era.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Have you been watching the Delphi docuseries on Hulu as well?
I just answered that you got halfway through. Has it
changed your mind about anything?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just made it to the point where they introduced
the wife of Richard Allen. It's so weird because they'll
show old timey photos of old timing, like eighteen hundreds,
but like Richard Allen, I don't know, he's in his fifties.
It's got to be nineties or late eighties or whatever,
and he's like, looks like just a totally normal dude
(25:59):
with this kid, And it's so weird to see this
guy who all you've seen of him are the mugshot
and the sketch drawings and whatever courtroom whatever was available,
and this like little, just lifeless guy and then you
see him in all these photos and it's like, Wow,
you don't you don't even pause to think about, like,
(26:19):
this dude had a totally seemingly I guess, normal life
before he was involved in all of this, either actually
involved or framed or whatever your opinion on it is.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Coming up at eleven?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Is it eleven? Josh Bain's going to join U.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Josh Baine will be with us.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
One thing that we're going to ask him about.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is, by the way, I didn't even catch up, and
he's a Republican member of the City County Council here
in Indianapolis, right.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And one of the things that we're going to ask
him about is how the City County Council Republicans they
want to eliminate a Marion County residency requirement.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And this is foremost city and county.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Employees, this has been going on since what nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Okay, so we're going to ask Josh why they're doing this,
because it comes off as and this can't be the
answer that like you're leading be able to believe the
talent pool of Marion County is so incompetent that we
can't like hire Marrion Keutty people anymore. This is actually
a common thing, you know where you'll see this. This
is actually a very common thing in school districts that
they require the teachers to.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Live in the school district.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know why they do this case?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Why Well, if you were to have a school referendum
and only people who live in the district you can vote,
wouldn't you want as many people who are going to
vote exactly as you want. Like, I know, somebody's like
snickering as I say this. I know I live and
beat a referendum in a school district where teachers were
I don't know if they still are required to live
(27:41):
in that school district. So that is a common thing
that I think is happening now. And like again, if
that does make sense, if your whole goal is to
be able to kind of tip the voting balance, in
one way or another.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
A part of getting the job ears you got to
live in this you live in the school district.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
What's been going on since nineteen seventy seven employees got
live in Marion County within six months of being hired.
There are exceptions to this, and that includes interns, firefighters,
IMPD officers, nine one one operators, and other.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Specialized skilled positions.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And one of the things they're saying is that, as
you mentioned, this would expand the recruitment pool.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, it does make sense that you would want people
who are paid off of tax dollars to have skin
in the game of where they're working, right, I mean
that doesn't seem nefarious or bad the.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Idea of it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Right, Like you you are paid by tax dollars, we
want you to have some skin in the game in
the community. Like if you're asking for money for something,
it's essentially your money you're asking for now. Like you said,
there are exemptions with law enforcement and firefighters. So like
my beloved neighbor, fireman Scott, he's a Wayne Township firefighter
(28:56):
and he's great at his job. You know, you would
you not want to tell somebody who is skilled in
that that asset though or skill set. Yeah, boy, you
know when it comes to life saving apparatuses or momentary
things where it can make a difference whether somebody lives
or dies that you know, we'd love to hire you,
(29:17):
but you just don't live in the in the right area.
So I would get it with that. But I think
what Josh is going to lay out here is they're
having trouble getting people period.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, and critics argue though that taxpayer funded salaries are
going to be leaving the city then, so they'll just
come in here to work in the sice.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's the argument is that. Now, well we'll get into that, Josh. Yeah,
why don't we take a break. Hammer Hammer will have
something inspiring for us, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Coming up next, it's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He is one half of the number one rated Hammer
and Nigel Afternoon program. Here on WIBC. Jason Hammer, Hello, you, Oh,
look at the VIP crowd you got in here.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It's like your gut Feld Now you have a live
studio audience.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, if you missed it earlier, our super fan Michael,
one of my all time favorite listeners. He's twenty five
and he has cerebral palsy, but he loves our program.
He listens every day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He got the I Love Rob Kendall T shirt rock
in the shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
His mom, Debbie, and his nurse Stephanie are here with
him today, and I just it always warms my heart
to see Michael, because Michael is just an awesome, awesome dude,
and I'm so thrilled they came all the way from
Frankfurt to be with us today.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Now, what I've noticed from running the merchandise store is
that when somebody buys an I Love Rob Kendall T shirt,
they usually also buy the I Hate Rob shirt.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So what is it? Store?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dot Hammer and Nigel dot com correct and all of
my see. The great thing about buying and I Hate
Rob Kendall shirt is none of the money goes to me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You're not helping me. I don't get any money from this.
It just goes to the provider and a.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Charity yep the the Project Rescue, which fights human sex
trafficking across the globe. Can't get any answers on EPSTEIN.
But those people are out there doing the right, doing
the work to try to prevent it from happening to
other people.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, that's what we.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Kind of talked about with Tommy Larin yesterday when she
called in. It's like, I know, everybody's super upset about
the Epstein stuff, and no matter what happens with Gallaine Maxwell,
let's say blank, if you do blank, if you don't right, right,
if you give her immunity, everybody's going to give Trump crap.
If you don't give her immunity, what are you trying
to hide? There's no win because they've botched it so
bad at this point. But if you're really that passionate
(31:30):
about the whole thing, then you can donate to groups
like Rob's because this stuff is still happening. It's not
a hoax yet, it's still happening.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, And that's one of the great things. Like obviously
Life Church where we attend, they partner with Project Rescue,
so technically the money I get it goes to them.
They have a special fund to set up and then
they acquire funds throughout the year and then give that
to that organization, so they're able to mass sort of
mass fundraise for those people who are out there and
raise a lot of money for them.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Shirts on our store. We help no one. We help nobody.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
They all go to my pocket, which will probably go
to Vegas at some point.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just want to make that perfectly clear.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Tank tops are now up there, Casey, you can get
that tank top.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
What did they say?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Hammer and Nigel show multiple colors sizes. I noticed you
never wore the tank top I bought you for Christmas,
so I thought maybe you were waiting for a hammer
in Nigel I was.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I was, thank you for forgetting that.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You'll be the one person going to Las Vegas eventually,
right right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I posted about this the other day.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Man, Vegas is just nickel and diming people to the
point to where even dudes like me are like a
little hesitant to go anymore. I mean, the room rates
are still somewhat low, but they hit you with a
resort for which is crap, and it's usually more than
your room, right, yeah, that's right. And then your food costs.
(32:51):
I mean, just it's so over the top.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
It really cuts into your bank roll, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It does.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
The money gambling drinks, right, that used to be a thing.
As long as you were gambling. They come by with
a free beer or something. You know, you might not
be able to get like a macallan or something, but
you could get a Miller Lite. Now it's hardly that
way at all. And wrong glass right right, it's a
it's tough man. But Vegas did that to themselves. They
(33:19):
just nickel and dimed people so much that tourism is
down eleven place.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It seems like they lost sight of their their customer,
their focus. I mean, it used to be a place
where anybody could go and have a good time. Right
now they're trying to be so exclusive that they're pricing
people out.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And normally, when you see a situation where prices go up,
take the airlines, for example, you see a higher class
of people. Right You normally don't see fights where a
wig is ripped off on a Delta flight. That's normally
a reserved for our fine friends at Spirit. Yeah, but
that's when we took to Vegas. I took it to
(33:57):
my last trip to I flew Spirit, had great experience.
But let's be honest. You know, Spirit is the waffle
house of the airlines.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Did you get hit in the head with the back
of peanuts?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
But Vegas the cost of gone up, but so has
like the total degenerates on the strip.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I know it's sin city, but you used.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
To not see like the fights and the shootings on
the strip like that kind of weed.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Man is everywhere too.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
And I'm fine if people want to do whatever they
want to do in their own home, you know, in case.
I've talked about this at length, and I'm fine with
that being legalized. It doesn't affect me. Do whatever you want.
I load that it is being done, and it should
never be allowed to be done in public because.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Vegas, Vegas stinks. It does.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
You can't have that Ocean's eleven moment in front of
the Beilagio where you just want to like soak it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
In and you know, watch it without feeling like you're
in between Snoop and Willie Nelson, like it's so over
the top. But I'm with Rob, I'm not anti weed.
If you want to legal.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There, they do have dispensaries there right, but there are
states that have it legal.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
But at least you have to do it indoors. You're
supposed to Vegas. It's the full on Wild West, and
I get it, it's sin city, but man, it's taken
a downward turn.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Do you bet on the pregames last night the Colts.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Sure I did because I'm a degenerate and I'm not
a parlay guy, as you know. But if you're going
to be a full degenerate, you have to go parlay
on pre season.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Now, real quick, explain to the folks what a parlay
is who may not be sure as familiar as you
are with the betting.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Normally in sports, you would bet just one bet.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose.
A parlay is when you have multiple bets together. Now
you have to get them all right to win, but
the payout is much larger, so it's all or nothing.
We had the Ravens plus six and a half. We
checked that box, and we had the under last night,
which we did not hit. We got beat on a
punt return to the house that cost us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, it's and you have said on our Degenerates next
Door Sports Betting podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
New episode now available College Football Futures Week one. I take.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I weigh in on whether I think not Dame will
win over under ten and a half games this year. Casey,
I'm going to Purdue Bets produce, so we're checking all
your boxes. We did it's the Casey family addition of
next door right, uh, and I we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Win them all, by the way, I hope you went
that way.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Notre Dame. Have you seen the schedule?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well, it is Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
They always lose this, there's always She wasn't talking about Purdue, right, Well,
exactly did we we end this conversation on this on
the podcast where I said every year there is one
game that notes you have to factor that in that
there's one game that they lose that You're like, how
how in the world did they.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
There's always a Marshall game or something.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, and last year was some directional school or something
that they lost to and they almost fired the coach
and then they ran the table the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
But how about our Notre Dame alum? Looking pretty good
in the Colts game last night.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Riley Leonard, Eh, what game were you watching?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Eh?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, did you have beer goggles on? What? What game
were you watching?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'll be a homer. I'm just happy.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Bet you were the mother during sports that everybody your
kids scored for the wrong team.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
No, I wasn't like that, rob very competitive, Sir.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Miley Leonard did as exactly what we thought as we
broke down on the podet.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
See, the thing about college football is he's fast and
he could run over people. You ain't faster. You ain't
running over people by NFL standards. And they're faster, they're bigger. Okay,
So what's his face is hurt?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Again? There's no surprise there. Just see the way that
finger was bending.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Anthony Richardson's I had that happened to me in a
basketball game. It doesn't really hurt, but you're like, oh,
that's a problem, and they pop.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It back into place, but then it swells up. It
took a couple of weeks for me to be able
to play basketball.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, I have separated the fun fact, Rob Kendall, funback,
I've separated both of my shoulders.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Really at some point in carrying this radio station, Rob, is.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
That what it is?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Let's see, I separated his shoulder in a basketball game,
separated again in another basketball game.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Separated to say, this is all.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
The left shoulder fell out of a tree one time,
did the left shoulder three times? And then I separated
my right shoulder fell on a hockey rnk so Dereck
Rose So I have, like, I'm sure it's hanging on
by a.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
This is like second or third date material, like will
you show me your scars?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
But do you have any scars?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
But uh so, But let's same thing with separating your shoulder.
It doesn't hurt your arm just feels very heavy.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Then yes.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And the key is you can't panic if you can
pop it back in and you know what you're doing.
You can't panic, though you can make it much worse.
You've got to just hang there. The time I fell
out of a tree, I was in my I was
a twenty year old man who still climb trees.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I fell out of the tree at my house backwards too,
sounds right. And I was laying there like I'm here
by myself. What do I do?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I popped it back it. You just can't panic. There
just no panic. I was laying on the ground and
I was like, I've been through this before.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I went to a med check and they just popped
it back and then had to wear a splint. That's
what I learned from the first I did it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Popped it back in myself the first time when I
was a teenager playing basketball, and they I went to
the emergency room and they're like, you are I did
all the work. There's no we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Go home.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And so from then on my old man saw what
it cost and was like, if that happens again, pop.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It back in.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Now you know what to do.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Mike got a hammer out. I was trying to fix it.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What do you have coming up today?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Don Felder, formerly of The Egress, joining the Hammer and Night.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Guess I got the big, the big, the big thing
with Kevin Cronin and then sticks.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
So we've got him, We've got Breitbart editor in chief
Alex Marlow.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Don Felder, Yes, that's amazing. Can I just sit on
your show this lady come on in for me tonight?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Here it is right, thank you Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey.
It's ninety three w ib C.
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