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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let me make sure I've got this right. If
I missed anything, you let me know. Okay, Okay, we
have when I get it. If I get it right,
you just say check right. So that way people listening
as they're driving down the roads and you can say this.
As you're driving down the highway, you can say this
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as well. It's a play along portion of the Kindle
and Casey Show. Just make sure I've got all my
facts straight. Okay, we have record high property taxes.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Check.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have one of the highest gas taxes in the nation.
Check our roads suck. Check we have skyrocketing utility bills.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Check.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Local governments appear to be ignoring the modest amount of
property tax reform received and are finding other ways to
raise your taxes with check. Yeah, and yet our General
Assembly continues to waste time on leading you to believe
they're going to annex thirty three.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Counties from Illinois to the state of Indiana.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay, very good, We're ton of here, winn This concludes
our segment of the Kendall in Casey Show. Thanks for playing. Okay, So,
now look here's the problem with this. So in the
legislative session, the mens of people who run our state
came out and decided what the Speaker of the House
of Representatives, Todd Houston, giving his full throated endorsement to this,
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that they were going to study how to annex thirty
three counties who said we want out of Illinois into
the state of Indiana. Now, first of all, they never
said they wanted to come to Indiana. They just said
we want out.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Of you who went out of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Second of all, any leaving of the state of Illinois
and the laws crystal clear, would require not only an
approval of the Illinois General Assembly and the governor, all Democrats,
but also at approval of the United States. So that's
not happening. But yet, Oh and by the way, these
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counties are contiguous.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
They're like a V. They're like a V.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But yet we're led to believe that there is a chance,
a fraction of a chance, on God's green earth, that
these counties are going to come into the state of Indiana.
To the point we are not only do we waste
all the time debating it, now the governor is wasting
time putting together a commission to study it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, we've got a commission.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So Governor Brown appointed five Hoosiers to this newly formed
Indiana Illinois Boundary Adjustment Commission. Their job is to explore
adding Illinois counties that voted to secede from Illinois. However,
Illinois has not appointed any on their side because.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And what we told you during the session, what we've
told you ever since, is you should be outraged by
this because this is a glorified floor show. These people
aren't spending time on the things that actually affect you
because that would involve work, and it would also involve
them having to stick it in the face of their
donors and lobbyists who fuel their political careers.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So they're not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
What they're going to do is waste time on stuff
like this to distract you so that you, hopefully won't
pay attention to what a crappy job they're doing in
the General Assembly. Now, don't take my word for it,
take the word of State Representative Ba Baird, And we
played this for you last week. Now, Bo Baird, you'll
remember him. His daddy's the congressman. He's the guy who
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got the OWI when he was running for state House. Yes,
but conveniently, while his dad was a sitting member of
the Indiana General Assembly and also the Republican nominee for Congress.
Conveniently for a trust fund baby. There were multiple clerical
errors in the system, including his name and his address,
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and nobody knew that trust fun baby got this OWI
and he was able to run for State House with
nobody knowing. And for what has been seven years now,
trust fund kid didn't have to face it, didn't have
to own up to it. And then when we called
him out and we gave him multiple days when we
finally found the put it all together, we gave him
multiple days to fess up and tell the truth, and
he refused to, so we had to break the story.
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And then remember the statement he sent to us was
as though, even though he's old, I think he's older
than me, so we would have been in his mid
to late thirties at the time. He presented himself as
some struggling college student who made like he was twenty
two years old, who made a bad choice. No, sir,
you're an entitled trust fund kid who believes the rules
don't apply to you, and thus well, and you got
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away with it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He was right, had it not been for those medaling kids.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So anyway, trust Fund Baby, who has relied on his
daddy for everything, went on and he's so he is
still a state rep from Putnam County. Trust Fund Baby
went on Wrightbart and admitted he stooged on himself and admitted,
this is all a big joke.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
We actually had legislation this last session that created a
pathway for counties in Illinois to leave and join Indiana.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Now, will that.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Happened, no, because yeah, we had legislation that created a pathway,
but it really just created a commission that we have
to approve, the Illinois legislature has to approve, and then
Congress has to approve. But what it allowed us to
do was, I think we had three articles in the
Washington or in the Wall Street Journal about why Indiana
is a better state to live in than Illinois and
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why so many people from Chicago were leaving to come
to Illinois and trying to leave the policies of a
state like Illinois.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, so he admitted, it's not happening, right, Just Kep,
can you just play like the first five seconds just
to make sure nobody thinks that I made up what
trust Fund Baby said.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
We actually had legislation this last session that created a
pathway for or counties in Illinois to leave and join Indiana. Now,
will that happen?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No, okay, stop, well that happened.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No, he's talking about House Enrolled Act one thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, it's a colossal waste of time. Yeah, they're wasting
but it's not just they're wasting time. They're wasting your resources.
They're using your resources. This guy stooged on himself. I
don't know if he didn't think we were gonna get
it or what the audio, I don't know, but he
freely admits this is a big joke. They're doing this
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so that they get articles written about them.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
They're using your resources, your money that you aren't actually
working a job because you don't get to be a
trust fund baby in the son of a congressman, in
the son of a state rep Do you get the
convenient multiple clerical errors in the system so nobody knows
if you get an OWI? No, this guy admits that
this is all big joke. It's all funny.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
They got articles.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Hey, how about we have a big joke about the
utility bills? Trust fund baby? How about we have a
big joke, a big fun about the property tax bills.
Trust fun baby. How do we have a big joke
and a big fun about the gas tax? Trust fun baby?
Why don't we have some fun with that and actually
helps some people.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, So they have appointed five people, all Republicans. There
has to be six, and it's got to be a
Democrat to satisfy, to sertify, satisfy the laws by partisan requirement.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And they're going to name that democrat later.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So this is very much like gos, like setting the
dinner table for a guest who never agreed to come over,
and then you hope that they bring snacks and pay rent.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But this guy's admitting what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
They're not even they're not even optimistic that it would
actually happen.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's one thing to do something. Go Okay, that's stupid. No,
we believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He admitted it's not happening. Yeah, And it's all fun
and games to these people in the General Assembly. Why
because their paychecks keep showing up, the money that they
get keeps showing up, they can do whatever the hell
they want to do, and they have zero respect for you,
and they have zero respect for the money you were
and they were a zero respect of how they take
it from you and do whatever they want to do
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with it. It's all fun and games. You're getting crushed
in every facet of your existence and these clowns.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are using your money for pr And.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
By the way, yeh bo, if you'd like to have
a conversation about any of this, stop running from us
like you did when we revealed your little OWI debacle
and come in here and let's have a conversation. Let's
have a conversation about the whole thing. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So, the Indianapolis International Airport, they hit a historic high
in July nine hundred, nine hundred ninety five hundred and
eighteen passengers flying out. It was the highest month ever,
breaking the previous record. They say people are flying out
of Indie for a lot of different reasons, the WNBA
All Star Game, the Brickyard, the Indiana Black Expo, summer celebration,
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and it was also peak summer travel season.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The airport has forty nine NonStop.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Destinations, including the one to Dublin, and it's just been
a double digit growth. Now you asked the question about
the layover before. Oh yeah, And we had somebody who
answered the question.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
This guy was a he's a pilot, pilot, and he
told me, okay, I'll just I'll.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Did you find it?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I got it. I have it if you don't, Okay,
do you want to do you want to read it?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, I'll read it. It's Peter is the guy's name.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, okay, he says, Hey, Rob, you and I have
some similarities and some differences. I'm also OCD and I
can't stand Republicans who spend all my money on their
version of fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But the difference is I'm an airline pilot.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh, if you need a guy in this department, I'm
your man. As far as the airline not waiting on
connecting flights, it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Making angry the least amount.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You could say that.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Can I say that?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You could say that?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It comes down to pissing off the least amount of people.
Every delay delays more people, and downhill it goes until
everyone is hosed, and you get that crazy lazy filming the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Latest viral TikTok video. The planes run multiple legs a day.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The biggest priority is to have the plane in the
right place in the morning to get back on track
for the next day and get a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So he what he's saying is because we had talked
about there was a connecting flight, right, there was a
guy on your flight, your flight from hell to Baltimore
who because of a delay on the plane, the plane's fault, right, Yeah,
like everybody was on their right time ready to go,
and there was some mechanical issue or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He was going to miss his connecting flight.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And I said, how is that a thing that if
the airline, I knows, if the airline knows that somebody
is in you know, trouble of some sort like trouble
in the sense of like their flight.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Is delayed, why don't they wait?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Why don't they wait?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And I said, I can't believe that you pay for
a flight, you did nothing wrong, You're in the right place,
and like you overslept or didn't get to the airport
on time, and they'll just leave without you. And I said,
how could that be a thing? And appears it is
a thing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, he's saying, Well, the goal is to make avery
the least amount of people.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know, where you never missed a connecting flight, where
if you don't fly if you just get in your
car and drive. All right, Nicki Kelly is gonna be
with us next from the Capitol Chronicle. We'll talk about
the bronze the big announcement on related to utility bills.
About this new advocate for your utility bills. It's Utility
of Paloza with Nicki Kelly.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
When we come back, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Kennelly Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Hey, Casey, I know we touched on this earlier, but
have you heard the good news?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
What's that there's a new person that's in charge of
trying to ensure we get screwed less than our utility bills.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And do utility consumer counselor? Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I was a small boy, That's what I desired to
be a utility consumer counselor.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Supposed to be Indiana's rate payer advocate. Yeah, this person
will be advocating for us.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Guy hasn't been doing so well.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Let's find out about this person and how they're going
to help us. Joining us on the WAWC hotline. She's
one of the best in the business. Nicki Kelly from
the Indiana Capitol Chronicle Nikki Kelly.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Hello, good morning.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
All right, so tell.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Us about this new person that is supposed to make
all my wildest utility dreams come true as a ratepayer.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Look, yeah, so I think the OUCC, the Office of
Utility Consumer Counselor, has been advocating for rate payers four years.
The problem is is that the people actually making the decisions,
the commission members, have been ignoring them. So you know,
we're going to get someone new on the counselors counselor side,
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but we're also going to get three new i u
r C members who are the ones making decisions, including
the chairman. I think that's where the bigger effect will
be for rate payers.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, so it's sort of like this person who was
there before, This lady that's there now, Abby Gray, Right,
that's her name. Yes, the bill was Bill Fine? Was
that the guy's name that was there before?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, you're telling me he was advocating on my behalf.
He was just being ignored in the order in which
he was received.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I basically submit, you know, if
you go through a rate case, they submit all kinds
of stuff. You know, fighting against these major rate increases,
and it has become like a little game in recent
years where utilities ask for kind of the moon and
then they know it'll get shut down a little. They'll
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they'll permit a little, you know, to make it look good,
but then they approved still a big rate increase. So,
like I said, I think Abby Gray. I have friends
who know her well say she's fantastic and will the great.
But I think the bigger change will be the actual
Utility Regulatory Commission members. And like I said, the chairman
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his term ended in April. They've been waiting I don't
know why to fill that. And now two other people
are resigning in October, so that would give them a
pretty big change to be able to stop. Actually both
know against these increases.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Nicky Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle as our guest, we're
talking about the latest with energy policy. So help me
square this because nobody is more level headed than you. Yeah, see,
we should do something together sometime. NICKI Kelly will be
like a wild odd couple because you're the most level
headed person and I'm the most insane person. Braun comes
out with this big statement about energy bills and he's
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gonna do something and we can't pay anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Here's my problem. Everything he did legislatively.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Or from the power of his pen in his first
seven to eight months would support the bills going up.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I e.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
The incentives for the four new data sitters that'll use
all the power, the ability for the utilities to get
eight reimbursed, all this money when they doctor Frankenstein, the
new you know, energy initiatives, like, all of this stuff
means the bills will prbably going up. But then he
claims he's very concerned about the price of my bills.
Help me make sense of all of this.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Well, I think he and lawmakers are seeing, you know,
a fork in the road, and you know, everywhere I'm going,
people are talking about utility prices, not anything else. And
so I think, you know, we have to sit down
with the chief staff recently, and you know, I said
in our story today that he's going to focus on
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utility crisis to fall and make it a big emphasis,
because I don't think they have any choice. And a
lot of what you're seeing in your rates are the
you know, the consequence of decisions lawmakers have been making
for years to allow them to recoop costs. Recoop costs,
recoop costs aka raise your rates, and so you know
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that's where the rubber really meets throwed.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay, so you think if you had had a little
crystal ball there at your Capitol Chronicle compound, they will
take action on this. This will be a bunch of
lip service. What is what do you foresee being the
future of utility rates in the state of Indiana, Because
I don't see how they're going to do anything but
raise rates given the legislation they just signed into law
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and all these data center initiatives they keep approving.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Well on the data center issue, I think. I think
the law basically says they have to generate eighty percent
of their their load, and I think the governor would
actually prefer one hundred percent. If they would make that change,
that would be a huge difference, I think, but that
would take some legislative movement. So I think, like I said,
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we're going to see in the next couple months and
next session, you know whether they're really going to take
some steps back on the problem they've created.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Nikki Kelly is joining us from Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Okay,
back to the Utility Consumer counselor BRON has directed Gray
to ease the burden on rate payers. How can she
possibly do this because you had mentioned most of this
is going to fall on the I.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
U r C.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah, but they work in tandem, you know. Basically, when
a rate case comes or when a utility says you know,
comes with a special request to cover expenses for something
UCC is charged, they have a whole technical staff and
attorneys to kind of show through data why this shouldn't happen.
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And I think Braun's things specifically said we need to
start looking at shareholder you know, wins and finally focus
on the ratepayer instead of the utility and the shareholders.
So part of it is just an approach and a
mindset that you get when you pick your own people.
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And I think he's hoping that will make a difference.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Thank you Kelly for the Capital Chronicles. Our guest, all right,
another story that thought was interesting, And look, I'm not
going to use overzealous phrases like highly fraudulent or trying
to manipulate the public, but Todd Roket and Diego Morales
are all in on requesting these names of five hundred
and eighty five thousand registered hoo's your voters, and they
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sent this to the federal government to verify citizenship. So
before we get into this, because you wrote the article
on this, is there any documented cases that you can
think of over let's just pick a number the past
twenty five years of coordinated wide scale voter fraud in
the state of Indiana.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Not wid scale. There of course examples that have come
up over the years. You know, people are human and
do stupid things, and there are certainly examples you can
find where voter fraud was committed on a you know,
one two, three vote kind of level, but not widescale.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, because that's what they try to make it out
like that, like they control everything. But yet they still
want you to correct me if wrong. They still are
giving them the impression that, like these elections could be
rigged in some shape, form or fashion by illegal immigrants
or undorn No, no do gooders, right, Like, am I
just misinterpreting what they're saying on a it seems like
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on a daily basis about our elections in the state.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
No. I think that's generally what we've seen from Republicans nationwide, right,
is to cast out on our election system, and you know,
we've definitely seen that, and they focus a lot on
absentee or mail in votes even though you know, again
we've never seen massive problems with that. And Republicans also
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use mail in voting for their advantage. You know, they
send out the applications to their voters too during during
voting times.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
All right, So tell us about this lawsuit, because, like
I said, Roketa Diego, they're trying to get in some
sort of are they sent some sort of information to
the federal government in order to try to verify citizenship status.
Then this group, it was the Indiana Citizen in fact,
filed this loss that they tried to get the information.
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They basically initially told them to bugger off, then told them,
we'll give you some of the info. We can only
get it in a certain fashion. What's going on?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, So, you know, the Indiana Citizen filed an Apple request,
which any you know person is allowed to do, asking
for that list and the idea of being look, you know,
we wanted to be able to do and I think
we also asked for it, you know, more than a
year ago. We wanted to be able to look at
the list. See. You know, if any of these people
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are truly a concern of voting, or if most of
them are probably just people who voted or registered to
vote before certain requirements were in law, so they were
coming up as not having a Social Security attached or
you know that kind of thing. And so, but they've
refused to give the list of the names, even though
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they provided it to the federal government. And you know,
the citizen believes that they have not given a proper
reason why, which if you withhold something, you're supposed to
give a statute and follow the law. And they've been
arguing about it for since October twenty twenty four, and
now they've decided to go to the court and try
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to get access to it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Because the former public Access counselor sided with the people
trying to get the information right. They said, look, the
denial of giving people this information is improper, and Roket and.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Diego were like, oh, that's cute. Yeah, we'll just keep
doing what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Absolutely, so, yeah, the former public counselor said you can't
deny this public record, and they've refused. Then they offered like, well,
you can come look at the list, but you can't
have the list. You can't take pictures of the list like.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Way, that seems like that's a theme in that off.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Wait, mikkyil, you're telling me the Secretary of State said
you could see some look shady document is kind of
a strong word, but you could see it, but you
can have any other information with it, and you can't
take pictures of it, and he can't bring it with you.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Is that what you're telling us?
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah, and then they retracted that even that, Oh, the
citizen basically said, well, we don't think that's right, but okay,
if that's you know, we'll at least take that. And
then they retracted that, and then they filed a new
I guess they're asking the new Public Access counselor Jenny Ruby, yes,
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to basically reconsider the case.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, find them over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Nikki Kelly, you're the best. Thank you, all right, have
a good night.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes,
because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which
the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors
and then they had.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
The big press rally yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's very interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government
was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all
of the documents secret.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense.
It's the smell test of none of this makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And what I mean by.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That is you have this guy who clearly was involved
in some very bad behavior.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Now keep in mind Epstein.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very
serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down
and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it
wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like
this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was
a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible
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things to young women, and we're just acting like he
did it all for himself and no one else was involved.
And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't
come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't
we think the absolute worst?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So Massey and Conna.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky Republican Row Kanna Democratic
represented from California.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the
federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution
and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on
expanding the existing House over Site Committee investigation.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, and this is the thing the man Trump is
not helping.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
By the way, Trump continues to call this all a hoax, Right,
he continues to make it all about himself, and people
are looking at this going, dude, it's not a hoax.
Epstein was a real dude. He really did some stuff.
For you to act like that didn't happen, this is
not Russia Gate, Like, we know this guy lived, we
know there are these women who are victims. We know
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it wasn't just for Epstein's own personal pleasure. And for
you to say it's a hoax, people are like one,
totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you come off as a
complete ass because you're saying this because you're somehow linked
into it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Not linked into.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It in the sense of he was doing any abusing
of women, but linked in to it in the fact
that it is clear that there was some relationship between
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's a couple of clips that I want to play
for you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The first one is the attorney for the Epstein victims
saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients back in
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'll go first, and.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Then I'll let them.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
They're much more important than me. But I don't understand
why it's a hostile act. I can tell you that
I talked to President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back
in two thousand and nine, and several times after that.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He didn't think that it was a hoax.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Then, in fact, he helped me.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He got on the phone, he told me things that
were helping our investigation. Now our investigation wasn't looking into him,
but he was helping us. Then he didn't treat this
as a hoax. So at this point in time, I
would hope that he would revert back to what he
was saying to get elected, which is I want transparency.
This about face that occurred. None of us understand it.
I don't understand how this is an issue that's even
(27:03):
up for debate. How do you not stand behind these
women after you've heard their stories and know that hundreds
of them were abused and it was only because files
are being kept in secrecy the world to know who
he is, who protected him.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect example.
Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, like
he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office,
so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice
just in case you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Steve Carell played this.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a
comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played
this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And
one of the things about the Michael Scott character is
he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive
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or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed.
And there was There's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally
he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but
he's too lazy to leave the bed, so he plugs
in his George Foreman grill.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Next to his bed.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns
his foot, and he makes it out to be this
like you know, he's been suffered you know, third degree
burns in a fire or something, and reality is like,
they're like, just put some you know, cream on it,
it'll be fine. But he's hobbling around on crutches.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He got his feet all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers
a serious head injury while going to check on on Michael,
and they have to take him to the hospital. Well,
Steve Carrell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight is
supposed to be like his best good buddy, is so
inconvenience that he has to go help his friend. And
then when they get to the hospital, they do what's called,
is it, the cat scan to see if there's any
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head injuries. While he's there, he's trying to put his
foot in the cat scan machine because this writ being
told by multiple people this is not an issue. It's
just a small burn. It'll be fine, put some cream
on it, he'll be okay. He's so absorbed with himself.
Everything is about him, and this is trump right. Nobody's saying.
No reasonable person is saying that you were on Epstein Island.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
We've kind of moved past that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think that's been even these women refuted like, hey,
nobody did anything with Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's all been like, you're in the clear. And instead of.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Looking at that going hey to do anything, let me
help you however I can, because he's implicated from the
stamer of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like not that
you did anything nefarious with these women or amuse young
girls or anything. But he's so self absorbed he can't
stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey,
you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly
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with a pretty rotten dude.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He has to make everything about him. He's Michael Scott
sticking his foot in the cat scan machine, and he
just can't stand the fact that he is in any
way looks bad.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And so he's being.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
An obstructionist and totally demeaning these women and these serious things, yeah,
versus just being a helper being done with it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise
to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned,
some of these victims said, you know, noe, Donald Trump
was not there doing anything bad.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I do have to ask, and I know, and it's
just something that I think were compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions,
aroun a part in did anybody see or hear of
the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related to
Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, no, yeah, so it's that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and
the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows
whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government
won't come clean on what he was, there is no
theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people
if you said, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, Well,
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to those people, why won't the government just tell us
what he was? Until the government is honest, then there
is no theory too extreme because there's a reason there.
There's a reason. I'm not saying he was Masad. I'm
saying until they come clean with that, every theory is
valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about this guy.
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And I think it's bigger than just the people that
he engaged with. So if any person like to have
that conversation with me, I'd be more than willing to
have it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
One of the victims said that she was taken on
a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures.
A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that
they're going to be releasing their own client list. The
question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't
you before? And I think part of the answer to
that is because they were afraid and.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They'll get more protection.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
No nobody.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The problem Casey now is there have been so many deceptions,
so many what are perceived as lies.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nobody's gonna believe whatever you show him anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that
massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're
still hiding things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
From right, You're still covering something up.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Hammer's next.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's Kendell and Casey on ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's gonna take too long to get to the book.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Rob starts dancing because you're like a pretty young dude,
but you dance like Rodney Dangerfield and Cadgshi. We need
to do another wedding where we get robbed out on
the dance floor.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You and I were.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's Jason Hammer, by the way, from the Hammer and
Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You and I were, Let's dance You and I were.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Texting last year we went to that wedding. We said, look,
we've been doing weddings for years. You obviously more than I,
but sometimes I was your evil assistant wedding DJ. Yeah,
as a wedding DJ. And we said, we just want
to go to a wedding. Invite us to your wedding
and we'll try to come. We're just gonna hang out.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
We're going to bring a gift, but you know, we
want to eat your food, drink your pooze, and mingle
with everybody and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And we went to a wedding. Where was that? It
was on the state line. Somewhere was a green Where
was it that we were at the state line? It
was close to the state line.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You guys had a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We had a good time. Even know where you were. Well,
I kept trying to remember. I go so many places.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Right, there's the day of the IU Michigan football games, right,
and they have the game on the screen somewhere fability.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you said you'd like to do
that again this year.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
So if you are having a wedding coming up sometime
in the near future, I know my Saturdays. I've got
a couple of weekends where I'm traveling. But Rob never
does anything. So if you have a wedding coming up
in even September or October, and you'd like Rob and
I in casey, if you want to come to to
(33:52):
crash your.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Wedding, we will bring a gift, but we're going to
do all the wedding stuff. Yeah, we're going to talk
to everybody, or get out on the dance floor.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Might even mix some drinks and cots working.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I will drink a mixed drink, but.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I asked you to be Hey, Rob, come back here
and make a drink for us.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You wouldn't do it for then you gotta give them
a gift and make drinks at the bar. Yes, that
seems like nothing in my favor, which is how every
entanglement I get in with you usually ends up us.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
I paint you moron, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I did a lot of work for that money. I
did a lot of work for the money. Yeah, I
really did nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Rob's here right support.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
But if you got a wedding coming up on a
Saturday in October or September and they're big IBC fans, yeah,
and you want us to just come by hang out
and bs. We be open to it. So send me
an email and we'll look at the dates that if
we can coordinate something, we'll make it work. Hammer and
Nigel at WIBC dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
All right, very good. Okay, football starts tonight. NFL football starts.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, it is on.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
We got the NFL season back tonight.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
We will have a new gambling podcast coming out right
around one o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Edition of the Degenerates next Door.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Anywhere you get your podcasts, I know that's like the
thing you have to say.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Right, but it's available anywhere.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
Yeah, anywhere you get a podcast, subscribe Degenerates next Door.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Rob and I.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We crunch the numbers, we use AI math, we get
everything together, and we also work with two professional gamblers
and we make them give you free plays.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So our game of the week this week, by the way,
that everybody's picking, is the big one, the Sunday.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Night game, right, yes, the Ravens at the Bills, Ravens
at the Bills.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
We always make our game of the week the biggest
game and a game people actually want to watch.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And then you and I will take an additional game.
You're mister Thursday Night. I'm mister Monday Night. I get
this joy of the Bears and the Vikings. Hey, thanks
for that, Listen.
Speaker 10 (36:00):
I don't want to give too many things away, but
had that not been the Monday game, it would have
been one that I would play.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, so I basically stole your bet. Fine, it's fine.
I've got action tonight, big point spread.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
Cowboys are getting eight and a half at Philadelphia, a
lot of points taking on the Eagle Eagle a lot
of points yet, But I will have a play on
that and a couple of different prop bets that you
can make tonight as well.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
And when we drop the new.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Podcast, all your favorite segments are back, we will do
the prop shop, mister Monday Night. Our professionals are each
going to pick the game of the week and a
game of their choosing, and again follow it on the
Twitter accounts. We're trying to grow that out a little bit.
So if you have Twitter x whatever you want to
call it at gambling stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, and think about Look, I've always reasoned sports betting
like this. If you got some self control, now you
have no self control. Now that if you're the other
two guys. The pros have no self control either. But
for people like me, let's say you, Betsy, where else
are you getting even if you lose three hours of
entertainment for five bucks?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I mean if you do two college games, two pro games,
that's twelve hours of entertainment the max. You could be
out of twenty bucks if you lost all your bets.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
If you had the worst gambling day ever, you're out
in twenty bucks. If you bet like Rob, now, if
you bet like me, you may be out a.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Little bit more than right, no risk, no reward.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Your wife ever gotten angry at you for losing a bet?
Have you ever bet so much that she got angry
at you?
Speaker 10 (37:31):
It's cute when new married people try to get me
a lecture. Rob, You're gonna learn this as you get older.
It's about leverage, right. I'm willing to let all of
these Amazon purchases come to my house, all of these
trips to the spa and the nail place. I say,
go ahead, look beautiful by your stuff. But I don't
(37:52):
want to hear a single word when I'm betting on
Western Kentucky and Toledo this week, Because that's the guy
with the guy with the name right Aick mcgiver.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
He's the quarterback of Western.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Because that's a strong it's.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Like a Homer Simpson name when he was choosing someone
an anonymous.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Name, Max Power Maverick mcguiver. What an awesome name to
be a college quarterback. Like, if you can't get chicks
with that type of name on campus.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Or if you can't get it done, there's no hope
for the rest of.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Us, and that dude can't get it done.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, you know, that's it.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You make an interesting point because life like what a
head start in life you get if you get a
cool name. Now he gets stuck with, you know, Thurston
Howe or Hugh Janis.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Harrison Right.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
I was high school class president and I used to
have to go to all these like events, you know,
back in the day. I think he was from Warren Central,
the kid that was in charge of their student council.
Swear to God, last name Whacker, first name, Pete, oh
boy the way, oh yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
If you go by the full name, he becomes Peter
last night, so Baddy can't even say it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'm afraid to.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
I've been talking to a few times what.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Are we doing this afternoon? Hey, you're gonna come by
and go off the rails. Right.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
You went on like a tweet storm last night against
Governor Braun.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Were you drunk?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
There was like one right after the other, like like
I do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Now that's some big deal to you.
Speaker 10 (39:18):
No, I just noticed it last night, Like I didn't
know if you were pulling a Nigel and drunk tweeting.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Thanks, sammer It is Kendell and Casey on ninety three WIDC.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Mom call me
Speaker 6 (39:33):
Long distance yesterday
Okay, let me make sure I've got this right. If
I missed anything, you let me know. Okay, Okay, we
have when I get it. If I get it right,
you just say check right. So that way people listening
as they're driving down the roads and you can say this.
As you're driving down the highway, you can say this
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as well. It's a play along portion of the Kindle
and Casey Show. Just make sure I've got all my
facts straight. Okay, we have record high property taxes.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Check.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have one of the highest gas taxes in the nation.
Check our roads suck. Check we have skyrocketing utility bills.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Check.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Local governments appear to be ignoring the modest amount of
property tax reform received and are finding other ways to
raise your taxes with check. Yeah, and yet our General
Assembly continues to waste time on leading you to believe
they're going to annex thirty three.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Counties from Illinois to the state of Indiana.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay, very good, We're ton of here, winn This concludes
our segment of the Kendall in Casey Show. Thanks for playing. Okay, So,
now look here's the problem with this. So in the
legislative session, the mens of people who run our state
came out and decided what the Speaker of the House
of Representatives, Todd Houston, giving his full throated endorsement to this,
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that they were going to study how to annex thirty
three counties who said we want out of Illinois into
the state of Indiana. Now, first of all, they never
said they wanted to come to Indiana. They just said
we want out.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Of you who went out of Illinois.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Second of all, any leaving of the state of Illinois
and the laws crystal clear, would require not only an
approval of the Illinois General Assembly and the governor, all Democrats,
but also at approval of the United States. So that's
not happening. But yet, Oh and by the way, these
(02:05):
counties are contiguous.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
They're like a V. They're like a V.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But yet we're led to believe that there is a chance,
a fraction of a chance, on God's green earth, that
these counties are going to come into the state of Indiana.
To the point we are not only do we waste
all the time debating it, now the governor is wasting
time putting together a commission to study it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, we've got a commission.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So Governor Brown appointed five Hoosiers to this newly formed
Indiana Illinois Boundary Adjustment Commission. Their job is to explore
adding Illinois counties that voted to secede from Illinois. However,
Illinois has not appointed any on their side because.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And what we told you during the session, what we've
told you ever since, is you should be outraged by
this because this is a glorified floor show. These people
aren't spending time on the things that actually affect you
because that would involve work, and it would also involve
them having to stick it in the face of their
donors and lobbyists who fuel their political careers.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So they're not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
What they're going to do is waste time on stuff
like this to distract you so that you, hopefully won't
pay attention to what a crappy job they're doing in
the General Assembly. Now, don't take my word for it,
take the word of State Representative Ba Baird, And we
played this for you last week. Now, Bo Baird, you'll
remember him. His daddy's the congressman. He's the guy who
(03:35):
got the OWI when he was running for state House. Yes,
but conveniently, while his dad was a sitting member of
the Indiana General Assembly and also the Republican nominee for Congress.
Conveniently for a trust fund baby. There were multiple clerical
errors in the system, including his name and his address,
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and nobody knew that trust fun baby got this OWI
and he was able to run for State House with
nobody knowing. And for what has been seven years now,
trust fund kid didn't have to face it, didn't have
to own up to it. And then when we called
him out and we gave him multiple days when we
finally found the put it all together, we gave him
multiple days to fess up and tell the truth, and
he refused to, so we had to break the story.
(04:20):
And then remember the statement he sent to us was
as though, even though he's old, I think he's older
than me, so we would have been in his mid
to late thirties at the time. He presented himself as
some struggling college student who made like he was twenty
two years old, who made a bad choice. No, sir,
you're an entitled trust fund kid who believes the rules
don't apply to you, and thus well, and you got
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away with it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He was right, had it not been for those medaling kids.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So anyway, trust Fund Baby, who has relied on his
daddy for everything, went on and he's so he is
still a state rep from Putnam County. Trust Fund Baby
went on Wrightbart and admitted he stooged on himself and admitted,
this is all a big joke.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
We actually had legislation this last session that created a
pathway for counties in Illinois to leave and join Indiana.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Now, will that.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Happened, no, because yeah, we had legislation that created a pathway,
but it really just created a commission that we have
to approve, the Illinois legislature has to approve, and then
Congress has to approve. But what it allowed us to
do was, I think we had three articles in the
Washington or in the Wall Street Journal about why Indiana
is a better state to live in than Illinois and
(05:38):
why so many people from Chicago were leaving to come
to Illinois and trying to leave the policies of a
state like Illinois.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, so he admitted, it's not happening, right, Just Kep,
can you just play like the first five seconds just
to make sure nobody thinks that I made up what
trust Fund Baby said.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
We actually had legislation this last session that created a
pathway for or counties in Illinois to leave and join Indiana. Now,
will that happen?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No, okay, stop, well that happened.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No, he's talking about House Enrolled Act one thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, it's a colossal waste of time. Yeah, they're wasting
but it's not just they're wasting time. They're wasting your resources.
They're using your resources. This guy stooged on himself. I
don't know if he didn't think we were gonna get
it or what the audio, I don't know, but he
freely admits this is a big joke. They're doing this
(06:32):
so that they get articles written about them.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
They're using your resources, your money that you aren't actually
working a job because you don't get to be a
trust fund baby in the son of a congressman, in
the son of a state rep Do you get the
convenient multiple clerical errors in the system so nobody knows
if you get an OWI? No, this guy admits that
this is all big joke. It's all funny.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
They got articles.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Hey, how about we have a big joke about the
utility bills? Trust fund baby? How about we have a
big joke, a big fun about the property tax bills.
Trust fun baby. How do we have a big joke
and a big fun about the gas tax? Trust fun baby?
Why don't we have some fun with that and actually
helps some people.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, So they have appointed five people, all Republicans. There
has to be six, and it's got to be a
Democrat to satisfy, to sertify, satisfy the laws by partisan requirement.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And they're going to name that democrat later.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So this is very much like gos, like setting the
dinner table for a guest who never agreed to come over,
and then you hope that they bring snacks and pay rent.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But this guy's admitting what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
They're not even they're not even optimistic that it would
actually happen.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's one thing to do something. Go Okay, that's stupid. No,
we believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He admitted it's not happening. Yeah, And it's all fun
and games to these people in the General Assembly. Why
because their paychecks keep showing up, the money that they
get keeps showing up, they can do whatever the hell
they want to do, and they have zero respect for you,
and they have zero respect for the money you were
and they were a zero respect of how they take
it from you and do whatever they want to do
(08:11):
with it. It's all fun and games. You're getting crushed
in every facet of your existence and these clowns.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are using your money for pr And.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
By the way, yeh bo, if you'd like to have
a conversation about any of this, stop running from us
like you did when we revealed your little OWI debacle
and come in here and let's have a conversation. Let's
have a conversation about the whole thing. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So, the Indianapolis International Airport, they hit a historic high
in July nine hundred, nine hundred ninety five hundred and
eighteen passengers flying out. It was the highest month ever,
breaking the previous record. They say people are flying out
of Indie for a lot of different reasons, the WNBA
All Star Game, the Brickyard, the Indiana Black Expo, summer celebration,
(09:04):
and it was also peak summer travel season.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The airport has forty nine NonStop.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Destinations, including the one to Dublin, and it's just been
a double digit growth. Now you asked the question about
the layover before. Oh yeah, And we had somebody who
answered the question.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
This guy was a he's a pilot, pilot, and he
told me, okay, I'll just I'll.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Did you find it?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I got it. I have it if you don't, Okay,
do you want to do you want to read it?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, I'll read it. It's Peter is the guy's name.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, okay, he says, Hey, Rob, you and I have
some similarities and some differences. I'm also OCD and I
can't stand Republicans who spend all my money on their
version of fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But the difference is I'm an airline pilot.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh, if you need a guy in this department, I'm
your man. As far as the airline not waiting on
connecting flights, it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Making angry the least amount.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You could say that.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Can I say that?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You could say that?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It comes down to pissing off the least amount of people.
Every delay delays more people, and downhill it goes until
everyone is hosed, and you get that crazy lazy filming the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Latest viral TikTok video. The planes run multiple legs a day.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
The biggest priority is to have the plane in the
right place in the morning to get back on track
for the next day and get a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So he what he's saying is because we had talked
about there was a connecting flight, right, there was a
guy on your flight, your flight from hell to Baltimore
who because of a delay on the plane, the plane's fault, right, Yeah,
like everybody was on their right time ready to go,
and there was some mechanical issue or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He was going to miss his connecting flight.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And I said, how is that a thing that if
the airline, I knows, if the airline knows that somebody
is in you know, trouble of some sort like trouble
in the sense of like their flight.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Is delayed, why don't they wait?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Why don't they wait?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And I said, I can't believe that you pay for
a flight, you did nothing wrong, You're in the right place,
and like you overslept or didn't get to the airport
on time, and they'll just leave without you. And I said,
how could that be a thing? And appears it is
a thing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, he's saying, Well, the goal is to make avery
the least amount of people.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know, where you never missed a connecting flight, where
if you don't fly if you just get in your
car and drive. All right, Nicki Kelly is gonna be
with us next from the Capitol Chronicle. We'll talk about
the bronze the big announcement on related to utility bills.
About this new advocate for your utility bills. It's Utility
of Paloza with Nicki Kelly.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
When we come back, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Kennelly Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Hey, Casey, I know we touched on this earlier, but
have you heard the good news?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
What's that there's a new person that's in charge of
trying to ensure we get screwed less than our utility bills.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And do utility consumer counselor? Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I was a small boy, That's what I desired to
be a utility consumer counselor.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Supposed to be Indiana's rate payer advocate. Yeah, this person
will be advocating for us.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Guy hasn't been doing so well.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Let's find out about this person and how they're going
to help us. Joining us on the WAWC hotline. She's
one of the best in the business. Nicki Kelly from
the Indiana Capitol Chronicle Nikki Kelly.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Hello, good morning.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
All right, so tell.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Us about this new person that is supposed to make
all my wildest utility dreams come true as a ratepayer.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Look, yeah, so I think the OUCC, the Office of
Utility Consumer Counselor, has been advocating for rate payers four years.
The problem is is that the people actually making the decisions,
the commission members, have been ignoring them. So you know,
we're going to get someone new on the counselors counselor side,
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but we're also going to get three new i u
r C members who are the ones making decisions, including
the chairman. I think that's where the bigger effect will
be for rate payers.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, so it's sort of like this person who was
there before, This lady that's there now, Abby Gray, Right,
that's her name. Yes, the bill was Bill Fine? Was
that the guy's name that was there before?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Is that right?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, you're telling me he was advocating on my behalf.
He was just being ignored in the order in which
he was received.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I basically submit, you know, if
you go through a rate case, they submit all kinds
of stuff. You know, fighting against these major rate increases,
and it has become like a little game in recent
years where utilities ask for kind of the moon and
then they know it'll get shut down a little. They'll
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they'll permit a little, you know, to make it look good,
but then they approved still a big rate increase. So,
like I said, I think Abby Gray. I have friends
who know her well say she's fantastic and will the great.
But I think the bigger change will be the actual
Utility Regulatory Commission members. And like I said, the chairman
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his term ended in April. They've been waiting I don't
know why to fill that. And now two other people
are resigning in October, so that would give them a
pretty big change to be able to stop. Actually both
know against these increases.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Nicky Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle as our guest, we're
talking about the latest with energy policy. So help me
square this because nobody is more level headed than you. Yeah, see,
we should do something together sometime. NICKI Kelly will be
like a wild odd couple because you're the most level
headed person and I'm the most insane person. Braun comes
out with this big statement about energy bills and he's
(15:11):
gonna do something and we can't pay anymore.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Here's my problem. Everything he did legislatively.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Or from the power of his pen in his first
seven to eight months would support the bills going up.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I e.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
The incentives for the four new data sitters that'll use
all the power, the ability for the utilities to get
eight reimbursed, all this money when they doctor Frankenstein, the
new you know, energy initiatives, like, all of this stuff
means the bills will prbably going up. But then he
claims he's very concerned about the price of my bills.
Help me make sense of all of this.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Well, I think he and lawmakers are seeing, you know,
a fork in the road, and you know, everywhere I'm going,
people are talking about utility prices, not anything else. And
so I think, you know, we have to sit down
with the chief staff recently, and you know, I said
in our story today that he's going to focus on
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utility crisis to fall and make it a big emphasis,
because I don't think they have any choice. And a
lot of what you're seeing in your rates are the
you know, the consequence of decisions lawmakers have been making
for years to allow them to recoop costs. Recoop costs,
recoop costs aka raise your rates, and so you know
(16:26):
that's where the rubber really meets throwed.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay, so you think if you had had a little
crystal ball there at your Capitol Chronicle compound, they will
take action on this. This will be a bunch of
lip service. What is what do you foresee being the
future of utility rates in the state of Indiana, Because
I don't see how they're going to do anything but
raise rates given the legislation they just signed into law
(16:52):
and all these data center initiatives they keep approving.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Well on the data center issue, I think. I think
the law basically says they have to generate eighty percent
of their their load, and I think the governor would
actually prefer one hundred percent. If they would make that change,
that would be a huge difference, I think, but that
would take some legislative movement. So I think, like I said,
(17:18):
we're going to see in the next couple months and
next session, you know whether they're really going to take
some steps back on the problem they've created.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Nikki Kelly is joining us from Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Okay,
back to the Utility Consumer counselor BRON has directed Gray
to ease the burden on rate payers. How can she
possibly do this because you had mentioned most of this
is going to fall on the I.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
U r C.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah, but they work in tandem, you know. Basically, when
a rate case comes or when a utility says you know,
comes with a special request to cover expenses for something
UCC is charged, they have a whole technical staff and
attorneys to kind of show through data why this shouldn't happen.
(18:09):
And I think Braun's things specifically said we need to
start looking at shareholder you know, wins and finally focus
on the ratepayer instead of the utility and the shareholders.
So part of it is just an approach and a
mindset that you get when you pick your own people.
(18:30):
And I think he's hoping that will make a difference.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Thank you Kelly for the Capital Chronicles. Our guest, all right,
another story that thought was interesting, And look, I'm not
going to use overzealous phrases like highly fraudulent or trying
to manipulate the public, but Todd Roket and Diego Morales
are all in on requesting these names of five hundred
and eighty five thousand registered hoo's your voters, and they
(18:57):
sent this to the federal government to verify citizenship. So
before we get into this, because you wrote the article
on this, is there any documented cases that you can
think of over let's just pick a number the past
twenty five years of coordinated wide scale voter fraud in
the state of Indiana.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Not wid scale. There of course examples that have come
up over the years. You know, people are human and
do stupid things, and there are certainly examples you can
find where voter fraud was committed on a you know,
one two, three vote kind of level, but not widescale.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, because that's what they try to make it out
like that, like they control everything. But yet they still
want you to correct me if wrong. They still are
giving them the impression that, like these elections could be
rigged in some shape, form or fashion by illegal immigrants
or undorn No, no do gooders, right, Like, am I
just misinterpreting what they're saying on a it seems like
(19:54):
on a daily basis about our elections in the state.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
No. I think that's generally what we've seen from Republicans nationwide, right,
is to cast out on our election system, and you know,
we've definitely seen that, and they focus a lot on
absentee or mail in votes even though you know, again
we've never seen massive problems with that. And Republicans also
(20:21):
use mail in voting for their advantage. You know, they
send out the applications to their voters too during during
voting times.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
All right, So tell us about this lawsuit, because, like
I said, Roketa Diego, they're trying to get in some
sort of are they sent some sort of information to
the federal government in order to try to verify citizenship status.
Then this group, it was the Indiana Citizen in fact,
filed this loss that they tried to get the information.
(20:51):
They basically initially told them to bugger off, then told them,
we'll give you some of the info. We can only
get it in a certain fashion. What's going on?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, So, you know, the Indiana Citizen filed an Apple request,
which any you know person is allowed to do, asking
for that list and the idea of being look, you know,
we wanted to be able to do and I think
we also asked for it, you know, more than a
year ago. We wanted to be able to look at
the list. See. You know, if any of these people
(21:19):
are truly a concern of voting, or if most of
them are probably just people who voted or registered to
vote before certain requirements were in law, so they were
coming up as not having a Social Security attached or
you know that kind of thing. And so, but they've
refused to give the list of the names, even though
(21:39):
they provided it to the federal government. And you know,
the citizen believes that they have not given a proper
reason why, which if you withhold something, you're supposed to
give a statute and follow the law. And they've been
arguing about it for since October twenty twenty four, and
now they've decided to go to the court and try
(22:00):
to get access to it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Because the former public Access counselor sided with the people
trying to get the information right. They said, look, the
denial of giving people this information is improper, and Roket and.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Diego were like, oh, that's cute. Yeah, we'll just keep
doing what we're doing.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Absolutely, so, yeah, the former public counselor said you can't
deny this public record, and they've refused. Then they offered like, well,
you can come look at the list, but you can't
have the list. You can't take pictures of the list like.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Way, that seems like that's a theme in that off.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Wait, mikkyil, you're telling me the Secretary of State said
you could see some look shady document is kind of
a strong word, but you could see it, but you
can have any other information with it, and you can't
take pictures of it, and he can't bring it with you.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Is that what you're telling us?
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Yeah, and then they retracted that even that, Oh, the
citizen basically said, well, we don't think that's right, but okay,
if that's you know, we'll at least take that. And
then they retracted that, and then they filed a new
I guess they're asking the new Public Access counselor Jenny Ruby, yes,
(23:11):
to basically reconsider the case.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, find them over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Nikki Kelly, you're the best. Thank you, all right, have
a good night.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, so we're going to talk about the Epstein stuff, yes,
because I was fascinating yesterday what went on in which
the victims now have spoken to Congress behind closed doors
and then they had.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
The big press rally yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's very interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, some of the victims were claiming that the government
was shielding wealthy, powerful individuals from accountability by keeping all
of the documents secret.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
No kidding, you don't say none of this makes any sense.
It's the smell test of none of this makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And what I mean by.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That is you have this guy who clearly was involved
in some very bad behavior.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Now keep in mind Epstein.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Before all this stuff broke, was charged with some very
serious stuff before and then ended up pleading it down
and served a very brief jail sentence. I believe it
wasn't like he wasn't on people's radars. It wasn't like
this came out of out of nowhere. This guy was
a just evil, evil, horrible human being who did horrible
(24:38):
things to young women, and we're just acting like he
did it all for himself and no one else was involved.
And that's utterly ridiculous. And people say, if you won't
come clean on the most basic of stuff, why wouldn't
we think the absolute worst?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So Massey and Conna.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Thomas Massey represented it from Kentucky Republican Row Kanna Democratic
represented from California.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, they're urging the Trump administration to release all the
federal files related to this. But Donald Trump and the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, they opposed the resolution
and Johnson supports an alternative bill which is focused on
expanding the existing House over Site Committee investigation.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, and this is the thing the man Trump is
not helping.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
By the way, Trump continues to call this all a hoax, Right,
he continues to make it all about himself, and people
are looking at this going, dude, it's not a hoax.
Epstein was a real dude. He really did some stuff.
For you to act like that didn't happen, this is
not Russia Gate, Like, we know this guy lived, we
know there are these women who are victims. We know
(25:50):
it wasn't just for Epstein's own personal pleasure. And for
you to say it's a hoax, people are like one,
totally disrespectful, totally heartless, and you come off as a
complete ass because you're saying this because you're somehow linked
into it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Not linked into.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It in the sense of he was doing any abusing
of women, but linked in to it in the fact
that it is clear that there was some relationship between
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's a couple of clips that I want to play
for you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The first one is the attorney for the Epstein victims
saying that Donald Trump actually helped his clients back in
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'll go first, and.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Then I'll let them.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
They're much more important than me. But I don't understand
why it's a hostile act. I can tell you that
I talked to President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump, back
in two thousand and nine, and several times after that.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He didn't think that it was a hoax.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Then, in fact, he helped me.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He got on the phone, he told me things that
were helping our investigation. Now our investigation wasn't looking into him,
but he was helping us. Then he didn't treat this
as a hoax. So at this point in time, I
would hope that he would revert back to what he
was saying to get elected, which is I want transparency.
This about face that occurred. None of us understand it.
I don't understand how this is an issue that's even
(27:03):
up for debate. How do you not stand behind these
women after you've heard their stories and know that hundreds
of them were abused and it was only because files
are being kept in secrecy the world to know who
he is, who protected him.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay, I've said this before, and this is the perfect example.
Donald Trump is basically Michael Scott from the Office, like
he's a real Michael Scott. You ever watched The Office,
so most people, I'm sure have that hear my voice
just in case you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Steve Carell played this.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
They call it a mockumentary type deal where it's a
comedy but there's no laugh track. And Steve Carell played
this just wacky guy that ran a paper company. And
one of the things about the Michael Scott character is
he was so incredibly self absorbed, but yet almost naive
(27:54):
or unaware to the nauseating way that he was self absorbed.
And there was There's an episode where Michael Scott accidentally
he makes bacon for himself every morning in bed, but
he's too lazy to leave the bed, so he plugs
in his George Foreman grill.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Next to his bed.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, and he accidentally steps on the grill and burns
his foot, and he makes it out to be this
like you know, he's been suffered you know, third degree
burns in a fire or something, and reality is like,
they're like, just put some you know, cream on it,
it'll be fine. But he's hobbling around on crutches.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He got his feet all wrapped up.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And in the same episode, Dwight who's his assistant, suffers
a serious head injury while going to check on on Michael,
and they have to take him to the hospital. Well,
Steve Carrell, who this guy supposed to be Dwight is
supposed to be like his best good buddy, is so
inconvenience that he has to go help his friend. And
then when they get to the hospital, they do what's called,
is it, the cat scan to see if there's any
(28:47):
head injuries. While he's there, he's trying to put his
foot in the cat scan machine because this writ being
told by multiple people this is not an issue. It's
just a small burn. It'll be fine, put some cream
on it, he'll be okay. He's so absorbed with himself.
Everything is about him, and this is trump right. Nobody's saying.
No reasonable person is saying that you were on Epstein Island.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
We've kind of moved past that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think that's been even these women refuted like, hey,
nobody did anything with Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's all been like, you're in the clear. And instead of.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Looking at that going hey to do anything, let me
help you however I can, because he's implicated from the
stamer of his relationship with Epstein. Yeah, like not that
you did anything nefarious with these women or amuse young
girls or anything. But he's so self absorbed he can't
stand any sort of criticism, which the criticism is, hey,
you were kind of paling around to some degree, allegedly
(29:37):
with a pretty rotten dude.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He has to make everything about him. He's Michael Scott
sticking his foot in the cat scan machine, and he
just can't stand the fact that he is in any
way looks bad.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And so he's being.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
An obstructionist and totally demeaning these women and these serious things, yeah,
versus just being a helper being done with it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
He's gone from release the files and a campaign promise
to now it's a total hoax. But as you mentioned,
some of these victims said, you know, noe, Donald Trump
was not there doing anything bad.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I do have to ask, and I know, and it's
just something that I think were compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions,
aroun a part in did anybody see or hear of
the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related to
Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, no, yeah, so it's that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
And then somebody said this in the YouTube chat and
the right. The other aspect of this is Trump knows
whatever Epstein was. And by the way, because the government
won't come clean on what he was, there is no
theory that's too extreme. Some people wanted to mean people
if you said, oh, he was connecting to Masad or whatever, Well,
(30:53):
to those people, why won't the government just tell us
what he was? Until the government is honest, then there
is no theory too extreme because there's a reason there.
There's a reason. I'm not saying he was Masad. I'm
saying until they come clean with that, every theory is
valid because they're clearly protecting something very big about this guy.
(31:13):
And I think it's bigger than just the people that
he engaged with. So if any person like to have
that conversation with me, I'd be more than willing to
have it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
One of the victims said that she was taken on
a trip to Africa with President Clinton and other notable figures.
A lot of these victims and survivors, they say that
they're going to be releasing their own client list. The
question that keeps coming up is why now, Why haven't
you before? And I think part of the answer to
that is because they were afraid and.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They'll get more protection.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
No nobody.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The problem Casey now is there have been so many deceptions,
so many what are perceived as lies.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nobody's gonna believe whatever you show him anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, everybody believes there's something massive here, and until that
massive thing is revealed, they're just going to assume you're
still hiding things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
From right, You're still covering something up.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Hammer's next.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's Kendell and Casey on ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's gonna take too long to get to the book.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Rob starts dancing because you're like a pretty young dude,
but you dance like Rodney Dangerfield and Cadgshi. We need
to do another wedding where we get robbed out on
the dance floor.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You and I were.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's Jason Hammer, by the way, from the Hammer and
Nigel Show.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You and I were, Let's dance You and I were.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Texting last year we went to that wedding. We said, look,
we've been doing weddings for years. You obviously more than I,
but sometimes I was your evil assistant wedding DJ. Yeah,
as a wedding DJ. And we said, we just want
to go to a wedding. Invite us to your wedding
and we'll try to come. We're just gonna hang out.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
We're going to bring a gift, but you know, we
want to eat your food, drink your pooze, and mingle
with everybody and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And we went to a wedding. Where was that? It
was on the state line. Somewhere was a green Where
was it that we were at the state line? It
was close to the state line.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You guys had a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We had a good time. Even know where you were. Well,
I kept trying to remember. I go so many places.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Right, there's the day of the IU Michigan football games, right,
and they have the game on the screen somewhere fability.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you said you'd like to do
that again this year.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
So if you are having a wedding coming up sometime
in the near future, I know my Saturdays. I've got
a couple of weekends where I'm traveling. But Rob never
does anything. So if you have a wedding coming up
in even September or October, and you'd like Rob and
I in casey, if you want to come to to
(33:52):
crash your.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Wedding, we will bring a gift, but we're going to
do all the wedding stuff. Yeah, we're going to talk
to everybody, or get out on the dance floor.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Might even mix some drinks and cots working.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I will drink a mixed drink, but.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I asked you to be Hey, Rob, come back here
and make a drink for us.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You wouldn't do it for then you gotta give them
a gift and make drinks at the bar. Yes, that
seems like nothing in my favor, which is how every
entanglement I get in with you usually ends up us.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
I paint you moron, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I did a lot of work for that money. I
did a lot of work for the money. Yeah, I
really did nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Rob's here right support.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
But if you got a wedding coming up on a
Saturday in October or September and they're big IBC fans, yeah,
and you want us to just come by hang out
and bs. We be open to it. So send me
an email and we'll look at the dates that if
we can coordinate something, we'll make it work. Hammer and
Nigel at WIBC dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
All right, very good. Okay, football starts tonight. NFL football starts.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, it is on.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
We got the NFL season back tonight.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
We will have a new gambling podcast coming out right
around one o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Edition of the Degenerates next Door.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Anywhere you get your podcasts, I know that's like the
thing you have to say.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Right, but it's available anywhere.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
Yeah, anywhere you get a podcast, subscribe Degenerates next Door.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Rob and I.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We crunch the numbers, we use AI math, we get
everything together, and we also work with two professional gamblers
and we make them give you free plays.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So our game of the week this week, by the way,
that everybody's picking, is the big one, the Sunday.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Night game, right, yes, the Ravens at the Bills, Ravens
at the Bills.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
We always make our game of the week the biggest
game and a game people actually want to watch.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And then you and I will take an additional game.
You're mister Thursday Night. I'm mister Monday Night. I get
this joy of the Bears and the Vikings. Hey, thanks
for that, Listen.
Speaker 10 (36:00):
I don't want to give too many things away, but
had that not been the Monday game, it would have
been one that I would play.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, so I basically stole your bet. Fine, it's fine.
I've got action tonight, big point spread.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
Cowboys are getting eight and a half at Philadelphia, a
lot of points taking on the Eagle Eagle a lot
of points yet, But I will have a play on
that and a couple of different prop bets that you
can make tonight as well.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
And when we drop the new.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Podcast, all your favorite segments are back, we will do
the prop shop, mister Monday Night. Our professionals are each
going to pick the game of the week and a
game of their choosing, and again follow it on the
Twitter accounts. We're trying to grow that out a little bit.
So if you have Twitter x whatever you want to
call it at gambling stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, and think about Look, I've always reasoned sports betting
like this. If you got some self control, now you
have no self control. Now that if you're the other
two guys. The pros have no self control either. But
for people like me, let's say you, Betsy, where else
are you getting even if you lose three hours of
entertainment for five bucks?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I mean if you do two college games, two pro games,
that's twelve hours of entertainment the max. You could be
out of twenty bucks if you lost all your bets.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
If you had the worst gambling day ever, you're out
in twenty bucks. If you bet like Rob, now, if
you bet like me, you may be out a.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Little bit more than right, no risk, no reward.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Your wife ever gotten angry at you for losing a bet?
Have you ever bet so much that she got angry
at you?
Speaker 10 (37:31):
It's cute when new married people try to get me
a lecture. Rob, You're gonna learn this as you get older.
It's about leverage, right. I'm willing to let all of
these Amazon purchases come to my house, all of these
trips to the spa and the nail place. I say,
go ahead, look beautiful by your stuff. But I don't
(37:52):
want to hear a single word when I'm betting on
Western Kentucky and Toledo this week, Because that's the guy
with the guy with the name right Aick mcgiver.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
He's the quarterback of Western.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Because that's a strong it's.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Like a Homer Simpson name when he was choosing someone
an anonymous.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Name, Max Power Maverick mcguiver. What an awesome name to
be a college quarterback. Like, if you can't get chicks
with that type of name on campus.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Or if you can't get it done, there's no hope
for the rest of.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Us, and that dude can't get it done.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, you know, that's it.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You make an interesting point because life like what a
head start in life you get if you get a
cool name. Now he gets stuck with, you know, Thurston
Howe or Hugh Janis.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Harrison Right.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
I was high school class president and I used to
have to go to all these like events, you know,
back in the day. I think he was from Warren Central,
the kid that was in charge of their student council.
Swear to God, last name Whacker, first name, Pete, oh
boy the way, oh yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
If you go by the full name, he becomes Peter
last night, so Baddy can't even say it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'm afraid to.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
I've been talking to a few times what.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Are we doing this afternoon? Hey, you're gonna come by
and go off the rails. Right.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
You went on like a tweet storm last night against
Governor Braun.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Were you drunk?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
There was like one right after the other, like like
I do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Now that's some big deal to you.
Speaker 10 (39:18):
No, I just noticed it last night, Like I didn't
know if you were pulling a Nigel and drunk tweeting.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Thanks, sammer It is Kendell and Casey on ninety three WIDC.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Mom call me
Speaker 6 (39:33):
Long distance yesterday
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