Kendall & Casey Hour 2, 9-5-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh boy, Casey, what I hate to do this?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, it's ten oh.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Six, Friday, September the fifth, and I got to do
my least favorite part of every show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh no, what were you right about something?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
For those of you are longtime listeners, you know, but
for all the new people. By the way, it's Kenley Casey.
Joun'm rob that's Casey my least favorite part of every
show because I'm a very humble, modest individual. Oh yeah,
is where I've come on this program and tell you
how you are fabulous audience, how right I was about something.
But we're about to talk about another example of how
we have been telling you for years on this program.

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As your government, your state government was offering all of
these giveaways under Holcombe and the Republican yesman in the
General Assembly for a variety of reasons. We're not objecting
to any of it. That we were going to pay
up big time. And the problem with what Hulcombe was doing,
and anytime government gets involved in something, the expansion of

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something becomes the new expectation, no matter how implausible that
expectation would be.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Even though it's not sustainable, they kept doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Right, So what Hulcombe did, and he is a complete
piece of garbage scumbag for doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And by the way, I've.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Been at this for years now, Casey, It's not like
that's some new. My favorite thing is when I I
get a little colorful in my descriptions of some of
these people and watching Casey's face. I don't even know
if you know you're doing it, but just to see
what sort of face case He'll make. When I come
up with creative expressions and descriptions of these politicians.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I often wonder how far are you going to go?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
The uh oh? That's part of being a trade professional.
You gotta know how far are you right?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
The line?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Right? This is not easy to do what we do.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
It took me a many years to figure out where
the line is. Is that Holcombe tried to lead people
to believe that he could shut society down in a
COVID world.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And not only would your life not.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Be disrupted, but somehow you would be better off or
get more for it. And what he was doing the
con the trick is he was taking all the money
that was being pumped in from the federal government printed
money right printed by Trump, the Republicans and then by
Biden and the Democrats, and it's the same story, different parties.

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And instead of recognizing, hey, obviously this money is gonna
run forever d day and we better be very judicious
and responsible with how we what we choose to spend
this money on, he opted people, or he opted to
put the money into things that then became reoccurring expectations

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for the populace when it never should have happened to
begin with, or at the very least, any person with
any amount of common sense should have realized, this isn't
going to last forever. See all the people that hopped
on the Medicaid rolls, all the able bodied people who
are capable of working who suddenly were getting free or
nearly free health insurance. Well, any sort of you know,

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logical thinking would say, I didn't have this before twenty twenty.
How are they paying for this? This is all going
to end someday, But people don't think of it that way.
It's see Obamacare. Once the government gives you gives an
air quote you something people, that becomes the expectation, that
becomes the baseline, and when you take it away, which

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is what's happened in the state with the Medicaid stuff,
all the people getting the freebies, the able bodied people.
Because we ran out of money. The federal government stopped
sending the money. There was no way we could sustain
to pay it. Hey, you got to get off the thing.
People are outraged, Well what is this? Yeah, hey, fatty,
you gotta go back to work now, sorry about your luck.
Put the bondbonds down, turn off the Jerry Springer reruns,

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and go lift something right, But people are outraged over it.
Same thing is going on with daycare now in the
state of Indiana, in which this is an incredible statistic.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It is.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Everyone should be outraged that Holcomb did this and the
But you can't just be outraged at hulkm You gotta
be outraged at the Republican super majorities who said nothing
and went along with it. So what Holcomb did during
COVID is he dramatically expanded the voucher or we'll just
use the correct freebie giveaway for people to put their

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kids in daycare from get this casey, from thirty five
thousand people pre COVID to fifty five thousand people today.
Think about that, not quite doubled. But what is that
that's like a forty percent, like not quite doubled. Well,
just remember when they said we don't always have a

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calculator in your pocket their.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Casing and then there it is, Yeah, that's right here.
Let me I'm gonna do this while we're on the air.
So what to do that?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I would take thirty five These are things I did
learn in the public education system, and I'm doing this math.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
On the fly.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Here, sixty three percent increase we increase the amount of
people from thirty five thousand to fifty five thousand who
were getting taxpayer funded daycare by say that's sixty three percent.
Why these people don't need it?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And this is post COVID, post.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
COVID, we're what we're five years on from twenty twenty
and these people were still getting the freebies in the
state finally stepped in. FSSA, the Family Social Services Administration,
stepped in and said, look, we've got a two hundred
twenty five million dollar funding gap here, We've we've got
we've got to slash. What they're doing is they're slashing

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the rates of which they paid these daycare providers who
are accepting state money for the kids in daycare by
ten to thirty five percent.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, so the reimbursement cuts are going to apply ten
percent to infants age zero to twelve months, ten percent
to toddlers thirteen to thirty six months, fifteen percent for
preschoolers three to five years, and then thirty five percent
for school age children K through twelve.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And the Capitol Chronicle has a big article on this,
and of course there's the immediate outrage from you know,
all variety of corners, including the Democrats, and it's it's
like this should have never happened to begin with. If
you're an able bodied person like myself, my wife, you

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go to work. Part of making the choice to have
children is you provide for them, and that means you
have to have somebody to watch them. So before you
buy in the iPhone or the new sneakers or anything else,
you need to pay for somebody to watch your kid.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Look, daycare prices have exploded, Yes, and I feel more
and more fortunate by the day having our daughter where
we have her in the and may may who watches
her doesn't not.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
By the way, did you like the costume picture I
sent you?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I love the pictures they may got.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
All the little children at the daycare to get dressed
up in costumes.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, the picture you sent me was great because your daughter,
you know, she's your daughter, Ye was looking right at
the camera. All the other kids are kind of distracted
and playing with their toys, but they look cute as well.
Your daughter knew where the camera was.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I know where that red light is at all times, right, right.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
But the point is, like I feel incredibly fortunately see
what other people having to pay and the services they're
getting for that and all that.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
But the point is what it costs.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
What it costs, right, And my wife and I made
a choice to have a child, and so our top
priorities to provide for that that kid where able body
people can go to work. We would have no business
having subsidized daycare the state. I have no business getting
money from the State of Indiana. Nor do many of
these other people, which is why the number was thirty

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five thousand, which was probably high pre COVID.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
There's probably bunch of.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
People who did have business getting it then certainly don't
have it now. And yet people are outraged because this
giveaway that should have never happened is now. It's not
being eliminated, they're just cutting back the subsidy that is
being provided to the daycares.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So the interesting thing is you said, as of July
twenty twenty five, there were about fifty five thousand who's
your children who were receiving care via these vouchers. That's
actually down. At one point there was nearly seventy thousand.
In December of twenty four that number was sixty eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
As they're doubled. Yeah, so they doubled, was double. They
doubled five years or four years on from COVID. At
that point they had doubled the amount of people. And
by the way, we have basically essentially full employment in
this country, or damn near full employment. It's not like
we're in the throes of our session or depression or
anything else. So four years on from COVID, where there's
near full employment in this country, we had doubled the

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amount of people getting subsidized daycare in Indiana from thirty
five thousand almost seventy thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So FSSA said the shortfall is a result of unsustainable
spending by the prior administration. They used the temporary COVID
relief funds to increase the childcare support.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay, so let's talk about that for a second, because
during Holcombe's reign of terror, all we heard was how
great he was. From the Republican Party, from the legislators
at all. We were the John Conner Casey of terminator.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We were the resistance.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
WIBC inside the conservative circles were the only people basically
saying this is crap, this is wrong, We're not going
along with it. Everybody else, their General Assembly, all these people,
they kept giving this stooge everything he wanted, every time
he asked for it.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
And now what are they doing.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Look at all the messes that were left and all
the government that Brown is quote unquote cutting. Of course,
he had to raise taxes by a billion doile to
pay the bills, so I question what he's actually cutting.
But always see Braun coming in and doing or bragging
about doing, or these executive orders undoing all the previous
administration's policies. Yet none of these people Braun included, would

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say a damn bad word.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
About the guy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And they labeled us as extremists and shock jocks and
everything else.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
And now here they are admitting we were right.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
This guy took a giant This guy Holcom took a
giant dump it's on the state of Indiana looked around
and said, somebody better clean that up.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So now they're saying that these cuts could lead to
reduced availability for care options, lower quality childcare, and also
an increased burden on the working fans.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
So let me get this struggle, Casey. Was their daycare
before twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes? Was their quality daycare before twenty twenty?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes? But I like to think so. I mean, I
had my own daughter in daycare for a while, right,
So you have experience with this, and that's going back
twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
So you can vouch that the in the twenty two
in the two thousands, there was quality daycare for that existed.
In the twenty tens, there was quality daycare. And yet
now unless thirty five thousand additional people are on taxpayer
funded daycare, that quality daycare won't exist.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Go to work, pay for your kid, stop asking me
to do it. That's the answer. All right. We gotta
talk about Kaitlyn Clark when we come back.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's Kennily Casey, It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay, should the Fever do the right thing and refund
those ticket purchases for all the people who didn't get
to see Kaylntark.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh, that's a good question. A lot of people will
be very disappointed because they bought those tickets hoping to
see her play and now she's out.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, I think I told I told this story on air.
This was several weeks ago, a month ago now, maybe more.
My old pal beIN Verbannik, the most beautiful man in
all of Terere Hate Television, was up here and we
were downtown at a well known watering hole and it
was post a Fever game. It was after the Caitlin

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Clark injury, and we were talking to one of the
bartenders about the reaction to her lack of playing. Now,
obviously at the time they thought she was going to
come back, blah blah blah. But this person told us,
they said, there is a certain level of unhappiness from

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people not who bought out of the gate, from whoever
ticket master, whoever it is that sells the tickets now,
but from the people who bought on the secondary market,
because those are the people that really ate out the
nose to go see these games, and let's face it,

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they're not getting anything they paid for.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, she announced yesterday that she hoped to share a better,
better update, but she won't be returning to play this season.
She went on to thank everybody, and she said she
was proud of how the team had only gotten stronger
through adversity this year and now it's time to close
out the season and claim our spot in the playoffs.
And I saw many people, you know, saying it's not

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her fault. They're not blaming her for being injured. But
many people were commenting, oh, the Fever still playing, like, well.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Could you okay, really, could you tell me the score
of the last Fever game?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Nope, nor couldn't mind.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I couldn't tell you when it was, who they played,
what the score was. Nothing. Yeah, And this is coming
from a household that is a fan, right.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And so by the way, I texted Herkaitlyn Clark, I
texted your husband last night and I said, hey, you
still got all those Kalen Clark magazines?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Are you get rid of those already?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
He can't stop collecting magazines. He has issues. Casey's house
is the most he has issues.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I get it, Okay, Casey's house is great. Like
the bathroom, you walk into the bathroom and you just
got to walk around, just stacks of magazines to use
the kids office. But we talked about this from the
moment she came into the league. We said, the WNBA
is a niche sport, and I can say this is

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someone who is a fan of a niche sport. I
love golf, but I also recognize that golf had a
a peak level of popularity between the years of nineteen
ninety seven and two thousand and eight, in which Tiger
Woods was the dominant force, not just in the game of.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Golf, but in all of sport.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Golf will never see again the ratings and the fans
and the intensity and the corporate sponsorship and all that
other stuff. Now there may be, you know, more money
because of inflation, et cetera. But I'm saying golf will
we'll never see that again because it'll never be another
Tiger Woods. And that was a prolonged thing because he
was so good for so long and he was such

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a world figure. But you look at hockey, which is
a knit sport. With Gretzky, it was about a five
year window when he came to Los Angeles from eighty
eight to ninety three. The Mighty Ducks movie kept that
going for a little bit boxing with Mike Tyson. It
was basically what like eighty six to ninety one until
he went to prison. There's just a window for these
nich sports when they have these transcendent athletes, transformational athletes,

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and you better get the most out of it, because
people just get bored with it. They've seen it, they
move on. They're not a fan of the sport, they're
a fan of the person or the thing they're doing.
And with Caitlin Clark, it was the fact that she
couldn't even and I'm not blaming her. She's injured, fine,
but she couldn't even give two seasons of it. You're

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already seeing just a lack of interest because she is
the league, she is the thing, and she's not playing.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So data shows that FEVER games without her average fifty
three percent lower ratings, down to eight hundred and fifty
thousand viewers from their peak at one point eight million.
The league averages are still up overall, but there's been
a whole lot of money that has been poured into
the league to get them to that numbers. Now, my
question is this happened yesterday on the same day that

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they broke ground for a seventy eight million dollar performance
facility for the Indiana Fever.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, so let's come back to what you just said,
because you made a good point. Yes, the ratings are
up because there has been an onslaught of coverage by
the media, and the one thing that this league will
have going for it is the media now is wholly
invested in its quote unquote success, like it will never
be outside of Caitlin Clark successful, just like the other

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niche sports struggled to when the phenom or the you
know this once in a lifetime person will was at
their peak, but the media will not let it go.
Like whether she comes back next year and is a
world beater, the media won't let it go. Now doesn't
mean the public's going to be interested in it. It
doesn't mean the public's going to buy it anymore. I

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think from a just a no matter, take the media
manipulation out of it. She better have the greatest year
in the history of the league next year or people
are going to just completely lose interest.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, Now this is on the heels of her revealing
her new logo right and her new sponsorship deal. But
a lot of people are pointing out Michael Jordan missed
eighty percent of his second year as well. So will
she come back next year and be bigger and better
than ever?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Wait wait wait wait wait, yeah, yes I did.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I just compared her to Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
There were a couple guys named Bird and Magic that
I think had the NBA rolling in a pretty good
fashion when Jordan showed up on the scene. And this
is what we come back to. Jordan became the face
of the league, and he's arguing he's the greatest basketball
player of all time, arguably the greatest athlete of all time.
He's certainly on the Mount Rushmore and part of that conversation.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
But he inherited.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
He became that figure on a league that was a
financial jugger, not because of the the emergence and surgeons
of Bird and Magic in the eighties, and they lifted
that league right, It wasn't a niche league.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Just like in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
If Pat Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes goes down in his game tonight,
Week one, he's the best player in the league, but
the league is going to roll because the NFL, the
National Football League, is a financial freight train, right. It's
everywhere people love football there's there's the league itself is
bigger than any individual player. In the case of Clark,

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she's far bigger than the league itself. And people are
gonna they are clearly have lost interest in the league
despite all this mass, you know, media promotion. And unless
she comes back next year, even if she's just pretty good,
which it's hard to recover from these injuries, that league
is in massive, massive trouble unless she can figure out

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a way to get it together next.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Do you think that the Simons are now regretting their
seventy eight million dollar investment one hundred and eight they
lose the couch cushion, so no big deal for them.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
You know what they should do, give that money to us.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
By the way, the center is scheduled to open before
the twenty seven WNBA season. Will people still be interested
by that?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
A lot of stuff, And this stuff is political correctness,
and they're doing it to check a box. And look
at how we treat the WNBA team. That league was
a financial dumpster fire before Caitlin Clark showed up, and
people will lose interest, and no matter how much the
media tries to save it. They do this stuff all
the time. We'll just gonna be like, it's a niche sport.
If you like it, great, but it's not something the

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public and mass is going to consume. And I can
say all this because I'm a huge fan of a
niche sport.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Did you see that there are some cities around Indiana
that will pay you to move there? Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Can we talk about that next?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
How much are we talking like real money or like
seven dollars?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well we'll find out.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Okay, very good.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
All right, we're gonna get into housing here in a second.
But first I saw this stat on the internet, so
it must be true.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Of course it's.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Kenelly Casey show. By the way, I'm Rob that's Casey.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's from the Athletic I Believe, which is an online
sports publication. The Colts fans are the least hopeful fan
base in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I believe. That used to belong to the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, but now they've.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
The Lions have something to cheer for and now it's
the Colts that are down to Roden.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
This is fastic.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
So the Colts fan base comes in at seven percent.
The next closest are the Saints, who are the worst
team in the league. Over the Saints may not win
a game all year. I mean, they're they're gonna be dreadful.
All Boys at thirteen percent, even though they have the
are the most fans in the.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
National Football League. Did they just lose every year?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, like they found a way to lose that game
last night, although they did cover. For those of us
who pay attention to that, losing by four is less
than eight and a half, and that's all that really matters, CAZy,
it's four less than eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
The answer is yes, Eagles one.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
The Eagles one.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
The Browns are to eighteen percent, they're dreadful almost every year,
the Dolphins nineteen percent. So and then there's a huge
jump up to the.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Jets of forty two per seven percent. Are hopeful?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Are hopeful? Yes, they're they're.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I think what that means is, obviously it's not
what team's going to be the best of the worst.
The Colts, I think, at the very worst case scenario,
going to be a middle of the pack type of
team somewhere between seven and nine wins is the most
likely outcome. So it doesn't mean you're gonna be the
worst team. It just means there's no hope we're going
to be really good.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
The expectation is very low.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
There's no hope we're going to make a deep playoff run.
There's no hope we're going to be in the super Bowl.
And weirdly, the Colts have sort of just embedded themselves
in what they call kind of purgatory in the NFL,
where you're never Now, they were bad a couple of
years ago when they got the Richardson pick, but by
at large, the Colts are never mostly never a two
win team. They're almost never a fourteen win team. They're

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just always seven to nine. We're on the fringe of
making the playoffs. But then you know, even if we
make it, we're going out in the first round.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Okay, so insert rant about cost of the stadium here.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Okay, very good, Thanks for teaming up. I didn't know
you're gonna do that, which it does come back to
we Unfortunately, I did I promise you, Casey, and I
did not discuss that whatsoever. It does come back to though,
we as taxpayers have a financial investment in the Colts
by force, and unfortunately, whether you're a football fan or not,
you need to be cheering for the Colts because your

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wallet is at stake.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
And to your point, when you have.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
A mediocre team that the fan is not excited about,
and we made this financial investment as taxpayers with tax
increases based on hey all these people will be coming
to Indianapolis and it'll be this financial juggernaut and they'll
be spending all this money and blah blah blah. Well,
if by week seven or eight, people are already just
sort of you know, lukewarmed to the team, and by

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week thirteen or fourteen, our final two or three home games,
there's thirty thousand people in Lucas Oil Stadium or forty
thousand people in Lucas Oil Stadium versus the fifty or
sixty that there should be. Well, that's not a very
good investment for us, no, is it?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
No? But there's something else to consider. As the Colts
have their first regular season game against the Dolphins on Sunday,
fans are going to if people who are attending the game,
no matter where their hope level is, yeah, they're going
to have to contend with several construction projects that are
surrounding the stadium.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Tell me more.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Casey, Well, you know you've got the construction on that hotel.
You think it's really pretty, don't you?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Boy? It is so ugly.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
You like what it's adding to the skyline.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I would I would reject staying there just based on
the look of things. That's the taxpayer funded hotel. By
the way, Yes, it would make sense that a taxpayer
funded anything would look like that hotel looks.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You also have a lot of work going on on
Illinois Street and Capitol.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Avenue, which means we can't get to work.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, but fans are going to have a hard time
making their way around the stadium too.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
So there you go. If you're a Colts fan, congratulations.
If you're optimistic about the team, you're in very rare air.
Only seven percent of your fellow Colts fans share your
hopefulness for the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So there are dozens of small and mid sized cities
across the US they're offering cash or housing perks or
extras to attract people to live there, to move there.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Why would they do this. I would want fewer people
living in my city, not more.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
This is part of a platform called Make My Move.
Oh geez, and the goal is to boost local economies
and fill population gaps expensive area population gaps.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Why are they doing this? Well, let's see, each worker
brings eighty thousand dollars to the local economy.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Here's the thing, the worker.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Anytime there's some economic development project, they always talk about
the jobs, the job to the community unless the person
is going to live there. As you said, is completely
irrelevant because the income tax is paid where the person lives,
not where they work. So when you look on your

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page check you live in Marion County, I live in
Hendricks County, You're going to see a different county and
a different tax rate for where we live. And even
though we both work in Indianapolis, my money goes to
Hendricks County, yours goes to Marion County. Now there's been
a big fight for years to flip that, which it
probably makes some level of sense. Now, the donut counties

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have fought this because so many people come to Indianapolis
to work. But you actually think about it, Where do
I use the roads the most? Where you live the
city of Indiana. No, the city of Indianapolis. I drive
you everywhere, like I mean everything.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I tried.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, that's right, that's what I'm saying, Like I mean,
I'm saying in terms of working, I'm making income. That's
a perhaps, which is why as part of the road
funding bill this year, the city was given an opportunity
with they'll match I think fifty millions the number.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
With the crossroads, that the state would match the number.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But the reality of it is the majority of road
travel I do for sixty five seventy. Now it's an interstate,
of course, but then the downtown area, as glorious as
these roads are, is the city of Indianapolis. Hendricks County
gets money off of me, and I use very little
Hendricks County roads other than to get and they're all

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town roads that I use anyway to get from my
house to the interstate.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
And so that's been a battle for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But yes, driving in downtown is still hell on Earth
and avoided at all costs.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, let's see if any of these perks will entice
you to move. Nobles bill yes, offering fifteen thousand in perks,
including five thousand in cash. They also have a wellness stipend,
a coworking space, and theme park passes.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
If you've been if let's say you're like me, you've
lived in the same place for forty years, and you've
been an upstanding citizen, and you've paid your taxes, and
you've volunteered for stuff, and you've helped the community.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You get nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
They're not giving you anything right for being the person
who made the place people want to live. You get nothing.
But if you're a foreigner, both foreigner in the sense
of out of state or in many cases you're in
on an H one B visa, you're a foreigner to
the country.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
They'll pay you to come.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
They'll pay you to move there. Nobles Bill whole population
of seventy five thousand people. Now, there are a couple
of stipulations here. Yes, you have to be eighteen or older,
and you have to have a job, household job making
at least eighty thousand dollars annually.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
But if I'm making eighty thousand annually and I've been
there and done the things that made the place a
place people want to be, I get nothing. But if
I'm a foreigner that comes in, you'll give them money.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
You also get an exclusive welcome event to speak directly
to the mayor.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
But if I've been there for forty years, I don't
get anything.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Correct, what planet?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Look these people that want to be critical of us saying, oh,
you guys are conspiracy theorists. When we talk about being replaced,
what other conclusion could you come to? What other conclusion
could you come to other than we are being replaced?
That the fact that they will pay some foreigner to
come in and move into and move into their city.

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But if you've made it a great place, you get nothing.
You don't get the meeting with the man, you don't
get the welcome event, you don't get any event. You
get nothing other than the higher, never ending, going up
tax bill.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's what you get.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
But if you're from outside, well, you red carpet baby,
how could you come to any other conclusion than there
we are being replaced.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
In Fort Wayne, which is the second most populated city
in the state, more than two hundred and seventy three
thousand people living there, the city is offering a total
of fourteen four hundred and eighty dollars in incentives to
those living outside of Indiana. Got to be eighteen or
older again, have to have a job making at least
fifty thousand dollars annually. Some of the incentives include five

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percent in down payment assistance and closing costs on a house.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Wait, wait, which city is this?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Fort Wayne? Fort Wayne discounts and other perks at one
of Fort Wayne's favorite local breweries. Plus you get two
complimentary passes to the Fort Wayne Botanical Conservatory.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
But what is Fort Wayne giving to people who have
lived there whole lives and been really good citizen.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
You get nothing even if you just move across town,
if you're one side of Allen County to the other.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So, yeah, all right, a very uplifting story. Casey, thank
you for that.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You're welcome. Hammer is not with us today, but we've
got to talk about some music news coming up from
Y three w IBC.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, there's a whole.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Bunch of Foreigner fans who hated this version of Foreigner,
and those people are just full of it because this
is the best version.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Of foreigner, you think so well.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know that like all of these groups, these these
people who they don't want to think about their music.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
They just want some robotic, catchy thing.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Now. They don't want the songs that have meaning, don't
have to put any effort into it. It happened with
the Areo Speedwagon when everybody got mad at Kevin Cronin
in the in the eighties when he started what do
they call that? Is it ballad rock or whatever the
name of it is. Yeah, same thing happened with Sticks
to people ate Dennis Deyong that people just don't want
to put the effort into the music and it's just

(31:22):
easier to lash out at brilliance rather than embrace it
and participate in it.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I remember four and or four was the album. I
believe that's the one that has Jukebox Hero on it.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, I used to play that album and sing into
my hairbrush, Oh, I was a rock star in my bedroom.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Was this when you were feuding with Jenny Ruby?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, it would have been that song.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So, for those who don't know, Casey went to school
with Kirk kurb Street, famed Ohio state quarterback now sports
football commentator. Casey was madly in love with Kirk curb Street.
It's not And she had a feud with a girl
by the name of Jinny Ruby who also had eyes.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
For kur kurb Street. No no, and.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We played basketball on the same team. Jenny and I
well there's lots of people didn't like Lane and I
lived on Shady Creek Lane.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Is that closed? It's like a stone's throw from each other.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
All part of the same neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Where did kirkrb Street live.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
You were over at his house all the time. What's
not Did you tell me that toy?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Kirk kurb Street big timed everybody at your reunion and
brought security with him.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
He did the high school reunion. He showed up with
his his crew.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's like actual security people. Yes, they were big fellas,
not like he just rolled in with his bros. He
actually just showed it with Do not get within five
feet of mister herb Street.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He was nice. I mean, it wasn't like h he
didn't give us the heisman, you know, the stiff arm.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Did you did you engage in conversation with mister I did?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I asked him if Jenny was coming.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It was like no.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
He was like, oh, I don't know. That would be
really nice to see her.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
And he's like, who are you again?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yes, pretty much. He was like do we go to
school together? Do I know you? Now?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Was your school big?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yes? Oh? It was, Oh yes, I mean they used
to call it like a community college.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Oh so it was there would be a reason he
would not remember people.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Right, Yeah, there was a reason he would not know me.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I wonder about that now. There's a point we played
the foreigner. We'll get to it here in a second,
But I wonder about that now, Like I think there
were sixteen hundred kids in my school when I graduated.
I think there's something like thirty two or thirty five
hundred in the school. Now, you knew or recognized almost
every single person in the school. You knew the names

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at least of most of the people in the school.
And I would say you had some sort of social
engagement with probably at some point seventy five to eighty
percent of the kids. At some point, I mean, you
were best friends. And even were your friends like you,
you were aware you had conversed with them. You would
be able to all that stuff. I wonder now, not

(33:57):
only just because of the amount of kids, but the
size of these schools, what percentage, like if you go
to a Fissures or or a Brownsburg or certainly Ben
Davis or whatever, like, what what those numbers are in
terms of like what percentage of kids you go to
school with you even have any sort of color.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I guess it's even more fragmented.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh, totally right, because why would you even try. That
was the thing about it was like there was a
sense of community there, so even if you weren't you
had to see these people every day, you had to
you had lockers next to them or whatever. I wonder
now what percentage of that because the but also the
communities are fragmented. It's not just the school that's fragmented.
Like you saw people out in the community. When Brownsberg
was a you know, a community of ten thousand people

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or fifteen or twenty thousand people, you knew a lot
of the people. You knew the faces, even to know
the names, you don't. I don't feel that way anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
It was about twenty four hundred students and this was
in nineteen eighty eight, so that was a big school
for going.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You graduated at ten.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yes, it was very fair, it's amazing, but it was
broken up into quads. You had the north, Southwest, and
East quads, and all of your classes were in that
quad area, and if somebody was in a different quad,
you really didn't engage with them as much. So I
believe that Kirk was in a different quad. And I

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always like to point out that they misspelled his name
in the yearbook, not his last name, Herbstreet, his first name, Krik.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
No kidding, and he was like the star, Yeah, and
they got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Clearly.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's hilarious. That forever he will know that everybody knew
him Nobody, Krik, Herbstreet.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wonder what happened to Krik Nobody?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
All right, So we played Foreigner because what they want
this is crazy to me. Foreigner wants to play Taylor
Swift's wedding.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yes, they put an announcement up on Instagram and they said,
we've been learning what love is for forty years and
now Taylor and Travis have too. Please accept this as
our formal offer to be your wedding band.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Okay, So my question is because there was something I
saw while ago that Foreigner was doing the decent thing
and getting the legitimate band back together, that being Lou
Graham the singer, and then Mick Jones sort of the
orchestra architect, much like a Jimmy Page and Robert Plant
with led Zeppelin, because they've had this pretend band for
many years. So I don't remember what the guy's name

(36:18):
is that pretended to be Lou Graham, And so my
question is what the first thing I want to know,
is this like legitimate foreigner with Lou Graham and Mick
Jones or is this pretend foreigner with the with the
imitator Lou Graham guy singing the songs.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Doesn't say, but they're definitely shooting their shot, right, They're saying,
we're available.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, let's pretend it is the legitimate foreigner with Lou
Graham on the vocals. Yeah, that's what Taylor Swift wants.
A bunch of dudes in their seventies who haven't had
a hit in forty years.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh what, they haven't had a hit since she's been alive.
I mean right, that's what I just said.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Music predates her. What I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, so is this a legitimate offer. I'm sure they
would Taylor and Travisa, Yeah, I come on down and play.
But I think this was more them trying to use
Taylor in Travis's publicity to kind of latch on.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
There's no chance, there's no chance it would actually happen.
They're just putting the offer out there because people like
TMZ are doing articles on it, so it's good publicity
for them.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
The other thing, I don't hear a lot of people
talking about their wedding and.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Who's going to be there, where's it going to be.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I don't think people are really engaged in the wedding.
I've seen more people talking about will Taylor Swift be
playing at the Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, I think it's will Taylor Swift actually have a wedding?
Because will it actually happened?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I'm convinced the ultimate thing for her career would be
because her fortune has been made off of I date
the same sort of skeezy skeezy guy, and then that
guy does the thing that everybody knew he was gonna do,
or behaved in a manner that everybody knew, and yet
I make a gajillion dollars writing an album about how
it is everbody's fault but mine.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
But doesn't Travis Kelsey break that mold?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
No, he's an insufferable You've seen like mister give me
ninety three COVID shots.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, like what, No, he's not a Hollywood actor, he's
not in the music business.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
These the things she always wanted to be which is
the whole song that first sung, You're your Name Captain
and I'm on the but but I'm convinced at this
point it could be just bear with me, right yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Wouldn't that be all?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
If the boyfriend break up album sold this many albums?
How much would the fiance break up? How many would
that sell?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I'm just saying once her whole business plan is going
to go up and smoke, and look, I have.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
A track record with this I have. My hero is
Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
He wrote all those awesome albums about working on cars
and chasing after chicks, and then once he got married,
what happened. He's stunk. Yeah, went through about fifteen years
of being awful. And that's what's gonna happen to her.
She won't be the victim anymore. The whole business plan's
gonna go up and smoke, and people are gonna be like,
just like we were with Springsteen. I want to hear
about your inner pain, because I have enter pain. I

(39:08):
don't want to hear about your happiness. I don't want
to hear about how rich you are. I don't hear
about how it all worked out for you. Tell us
how it is for us.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Stop being happy.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Bruce Springsteen, by the way, releasing Nebraska eighty two Expanded
Edition on October seventeenth. What is this money?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Me?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Give me money, money now recordings. I'm out of stuff
to put out, so I found this thing. It's like
a rummage sale. That's what this guy's doing.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Now. Yeah, He's like, put it all out there. See
what sticks be cars.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
He gave an interview I saw recently where they asked,
why are you doing all this stuff? He did some documentary.
He goes some of the fact that he said I
could be dead soon.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
By cashing is cashing in? That's it exactly. You're listening
to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC