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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, ethan dealer's choice. We got to get to
both of these, So I'll let you decide which when
we do first, Kill Casey Show and Rob Casey's out
Ethan Hatchers and for Casey today here on Saturday Night,
seven to nine, Saturday Night on the Circle. keV is
here as well. Do you want to do government shutdown
stuff first? Or do you want to do aliens first? Oh,
(00:22):
let's do aliens government shutdowns? Old news. We've been at
that for more than two weeks. Now you're on day seventeen. Yeh,
it's still going. Mike Johnson's blaming AOC and so little
has changed in my day to day life. Yeah yeah,
yeahh okay. So there's a new documentary. A variety has
this article. There's a new documentary that's coming out. It's
called Age of Disclosure, and it's going to be in
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various theaters and it's also going to have what they're
calling a concurrent concurrent release with Amazon Primes, like if
you're an Amazon Prime subscriber, you should have access to this.
And basically what it alleges is there has been an
eighty what they're just going having as an eighty year
global cover up of non human intelligent life and a
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secret war among major nations to reverse engineer advanced technology
of non human origin. Okay, so they're going to interview
thirty four members of the US government, military, and intelligence
communities to expose what they're describing as profound stakes for
the future of humanity. So it sounds like I mean, look,
there's been many, many documentaries, you know, interviews, whatever, about
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investigations on alien life, and before we get into it,
i'd be curiously, do you believe in aliens? I would
like to believe, but I've seen no evidence of it.
So do you think all the people are lying? Like
all these people reported some sort of I'm sure some
of them are lying, But could they all be lying
about these various encounters over the many years. Well, sometimes
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I've seen people speak very passionately about anomalies that they
don't understand, like camera anomalies that people are able to
who replicate using just basic physics or optical illusions, and
they don't understand what they're seeing. So yeah, maybe they
believe that they have seen something anomalous or strange that
in their mind could only be explained by extraterrestrial life.
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But they just don't have the evidence to back it up.
They never do. What about the people that claim they've
been visited by the aliens so they are under sada?
That's all of them lying? Yeah, that's that's that's not
there's no other people who've been praying. They're lying where
they're delusional. Just kind of kind of like we have
politicians that run around saying that God personally speaks to them.
I think these people are delusional? Can they? But can
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they all be lying? I mean you don't think it's
a conspiracy, right you think like there are a lot
of crazy people in this world? Rob? Yeah, Okay, I know. Look,
I'm not saying that's. Tim Burchat, congressman from Tennessee, was
on Tucker Carlson just the other day and he was
talking about, well, I've spoken with navy men, and I've
just had a lot of people tell me things, but
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they never get to the there there Ana Pauline Luna
from Florida, she's talked about this. I think Mark or
Rubio may have talked about it once or twice. They
will allude to something, but it's time to put up
or shut up. Rob. I'm tired of being teased. I'm
tired of being teased about the possibility without any hard
and fast evidence to support it. I would like to
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believe that we are not alone in the universe. I
think it would be a lot of wasted real estate
in this vast, you know, galaxy that we find ourselves
in if we were truly the only sentient life that
had ever risen in the universe before now, but I've
not seen it. I think it would be fascinating if
that were the case, and it would completely change our
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understanding of the world. You do hit on a good point,
which is shouldn't we have caught something by now? I mean,
it's you know, it's twenty twenty five, everything's filmed, everything's videoed, like,
shouldn't at some point there have been some sort of
capture that the government didn't get to first. Shouldn't there
have been some sort of hey, this thing went down
in a field, or you know, there was a photograph
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of this that's you know, definitive proof. Shouldn't that That
is a fair point. Shouldn't that have happened by now?
Also the idea that none of this has ever been
successfully leaked from the government. The government can't keep secrets forever.
Eventually this information is leaked out when it's need to
be needed to be known by the general public. I mean,
look what Edward Snowden was able to do about revealing
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the surveillance state, and they couldn't keep a lid on him,
But they can keep a lid on all these UFO anomalies. Nah. Nah,
it's fun to imagine. I like the X Files, I
like science fiction, but you know, if we're dealing with,
you know, matters of reality and just don't buy it.
But then I also think you also make a good point,
which is this vast and incredible universe, it can't just
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be us, right, I mean God's I guess God would
do whatever God wants to do. Oh Man at a
theory on this years ago. It always stuck with me
and I thought this might be the best explanation. What
if they're time travelers. What if aliens or unidentified flying
objects or whatever are time travel and that's why they
can't get caught because it would disrupt everything anytime they
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get caught quoe unquote caught. What if they're studying humans, Like,
what if we had the ability to go back in time?
Like right now, you think people wouldn't be going back
in time to study Abraham Lincoln or George Washington or
that actually brushes very close to another conspiracy. What if
we are the Aliens? Not only that were they're time travelers,
but we are the time traveling aliens. And that's why
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occasionally you'll see like a doppelganger. These are time traveling
tourists that are going back to a younger Earth, of
the far distant past. We are the past. Yes, we
are the future. We are the Aliens. We are the conspiracy. Oh,
I see, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Anyway, so
that's coming out again. The name of if you're a
November twenty first is the release date on this. The
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Age of Disclosure is the name.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
See.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm more interested in that John Candy documentary that just
came out on Amazon than another rerun episode of Ancient Aliens.
I already watched that on History Channel. You have not
You've not seen the Candy documentary yet, not yet. We
talked about this yesterday. It's excellent. You should totally watch it.
Everybody would enjoy it. It's called I Like Me, and
it's different in the sense of it's not just like him,
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then he was in this movie, and then he was
in that movie. It's interviews almost the whole thing is
interviews with people his personal life, right right right. I
mean they'd obviously touched on his career in how different
roles impacted him personally, but it's interviews with and what
it's amazing about that movie, and we talked about this
the other day, is the amount of people who are
still living who were I mean, he would be seventy
four years old now or was about to be about
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to turn Yeah, he'd be seventy four, he'd be about
to turn seventy five years old. He's one of those people,
John Candy, And it's weird, like whether it Sannis Joplin
or Jimmy Hendrix or Jim Morrison or whoever, you just
can't picture them being old. And Bill Murray, Eugene Levy,
Catherine O'Hara, all these Dan Akroy, these people who were
in his orbit are thankfully still living and are are
a part of it. Okay, let's get to the shutdown
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real quick. So Mike Johnson, he is the Speaker of
the how the House of course has already passed a budget.
Is what the Senate refuses to pass. Mike Johnson has
basically said, to his credit, we're not coming back. We
have passed our budget. We will come back when the
Senate is done with their work and then we will
consider other things. And here is Mike Johnson yesterday. Look,
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they're really trying to make AOC. This is interesting sort
of the face or de facto leader of the Democrat Party.
Now have you noticed this either. I'm saying the Republicans
are trying to do this. They clearly must have some
sort of pulling or data amongst the populace at large
that she moves in a negative direction because they're really
going out of their way, many of them, to try
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to make her sort of like, well, these people are
being subservient. Chuck Schumer is being subservient to AOC. She
is essentially the heir apparent of the Bernie Sanders wing
of the Democrat Party. I think you have that photo
that's been circulating of Bernie and AOC and socialist Zoran
mom Nami, who's running from air. They're in New York City,
all chumming around and hanging out, so it tracks all right.
(08:06):
So he was on CNN and he addressed AOC's criticism.
She had some sort of town hall that she did.
I think it was in CNN, and so he responded
to that and also defended the House Republicans response to
the shutdown.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Your responsor, Yeah, instead of doing publicity stunts like AOC
likes to do, instead of making social media videos. Republicans
are working. We have been working right now. They're in
their districts doing very valuable work. In our press conference
this morning, I highlighted some of the very important things
they're doing right now. What are they doing. They're trying
to help their constituents navigate through this crisis that has
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been created by Democrats like AOC. She voted on September
nineteenth in the House to block the pay for troops
TSA agents, border patrol agents, air traffic controllers, to stop
the services to nutrition supplemental programs to women, infants, and children.
She voted to stop service to the elderly and disabled
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and veterans. That's her vote record, and she's trying to
obscure that fact and blame Republicans. I am always open
to negotiating, but we had the negotiations in the House
and the mutual agreement by Republicans and Democrats who were
appropriators who were working on the government funding was to
extend it for seven weeks to November twenty first, so
they would have time to finish the appropriations process. AOC
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engaged in a political stunt, as did Honk King Jeffreys,
and voted against it for their own partisan political purposes,
and they have created this mess, so it doesn't matter
how many hours you give her in a town hall,
the first ever socialist town hall on CNN. I'm glad
it was aired. You got to hear their real views,
and it's pretty dangerous for the future of America.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't know we got to cover this because obviously
it's a big deal that the government is quote unquote
shut down, but you and I talked about this earlier.
I just have a really hard time getting invested in
any of this because my life really isn't being altered,
and I think normal people's lives, for the most part,
aren't being altered. I'm not saying obviously his workers are
being laid off or whatever, that's a big deal to them,
but I just and especially they continue to move money around,
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and you know, as long as they're paying the troops
and like, I think it's just it just seems like
a lot of dinner theater right now. Yes, but I'm
sure you can appreciate the strategy that I think is
being attempted to be employed here. And as you know,
politics is largely a game of expectations. Being able to
paint AOC as a lunatic and rely on her to
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do crazy things is a low hanging fruit in terms
of political expectations. So if they can successfully couch their
message wrapping it up around that, it's also easy to
communicate how crazy she is to the general public. That
just strikes me as a smart strategy on their part.
All right, when we come back, the robots are taking over.
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We have new data that is very scary and the
latest latest example of how we're all we're all doomed.
We'll talk about it next. Keithan's in for casey ninety
three WIBC Doumble Money Got I see what you did here?
And that's a Dnnisty Young stick song. You really keV
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checked two boxes with one act. I don't know if
you intended to do that or not.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So was this during when dennist Young was in the band.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This is the end of Styx. They got mad at
the Young for doing this because Tommy Shaw's a moron.
It's kind of a Casey show. I'm rob Casey's out today.
I didn't know all the history of this song. Oh yeah,
this was the end of So this was like eighty
four eighty five. Styx was very one of the biggest
rock bands in the world. And Dennis D. Young, who
was the backbone of the band, the guy who wrote
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and sang most of the songs, certainly the songs of
any decency or conceptibility in good society, decided you want
to do this concept album of mister Roboto, and because
Tommy Shaw is the likability of a gnat and no
creativity whatsoever, through a fit and broke the band up.
So but you did this, keV, not just for that reason.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, it's symbolics.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sometimes keV will play things just to test me. He
knows the response he's going to get and he will
just put them out there. But it's because we're talking
about robots here. That's why you did this, right, right,
very good? Yeah, knows what he's doing when he does
that music selection. It's professional. Yes. Anyway, So Axios had
an interesting article out about the amount of content on
the Internet that is now written by robots, or as
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we call it today, artificial intelligence. Ethan. Now more than
half of articles written on the Internet are written no
longer by humans, written by robots. That doesn't surprise me.
Fifty percent fifty two percent, I'm sorry, of articles that
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you consume that the public at large consumes are written
by artificial intelligence. There is a theory that most of
the interactions on the Internet are actually overseen by bots
or artificial and in intelligence. It's a whole theory of
the Internet. So like desolate Internet, barren Internet, and I
can't remember the specific term, but the idea that there
are fundamentally far fewer real people who are interacting with
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these social media sides totally than you you would think,
oh totally. And it used to be you could spot
them pretty easy based on like the profile picture or
like did their profile name have nine numbers after it?
But I think it's getting better and better on how
these accounts are being set up and activated lack of
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a better term. It's been proven that they do this
with dating websites as well, where they create artificial accounts
on the dating website to give you the impression that
there are far more people using it, and therefore the
capability of achieving a partner of some kind is far
greater than it is, so you'll give them money. Indeed, well,
you're sent moneyne you're single. You ever encountered a fake
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person on the dating site? I have, I have suspected,
but it's hard to pin it down. I'll tell you what.
It's hard to get a date out of those dating websites. Okay,
so those are a few far between. I'd intend to
do this, but I'm gonna I'm going to ask you
about this. Like you're a person of some stature, right,
you are a known broadcast or in the city of Indianapolis.
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You have most highly rated Saturday evening show from seven
to nine. There you go, perfect and you have views
that I mean, some people may agree with your views,
some people may disagree with your views, but you put
your political views out into the public to be consumed.
Do you worry when you're on a dating side of Oh,
somebody's going to be on there and they're gonna find
out who I am, and then they're just gonna be
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on like a you know, a kamikaze mission to try
to take me down. They'll pretend to want to meet
me or whatever. Oh no, no, most people don't have
that time in the day. You'd have to be a
real nuts to go specifically eat with somebody. Well not
those on the dating Well there there are, but they've
never specifically sought me out, thankfully they Yeah. I mean, look,
if they're going to hate you for your political affiliation,
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then it was probably not going to work out anyway.
So yeah, okay, keV, you ever met a robot on
the dating sites, any person that you engaged in a
long love affair and then found out they were just
not even human.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
No, I'm pretty good at knowing right away that they're fake.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But you can't see them. You have encountered the robots, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I mean there's people that make these fake profiles and
they'll have like their Snapchat and their bios.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah. So you conciously attractive women with like two photos
in the in the profile. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And you can tell the photos are like sort of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Grainy screenshots, grainy screenshots or stock images. Yeah, my flip phone.
There this fundle with my flip phone. Okay, yeah, so
this is the bigger story here. Though, is that the
robots are taking over. I mean, so Axios has this chart,
and even as little as three years ago November of
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twenty two, there was less than ten percent of all
content was generated by robots on the Internet. So in
three years you've gone from ten to fifty two percent.
That's like massive increase. Here's a counter question for you,
rob that occurs to me in the moment. Would you
trust AI to deliver you unbiased, unwashed information more than
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partisan media democrats because I think you programmed the robot
to do whatever it is you wanted. Somebody's programming this
robot right until the robots can program themselves, there has
to be a base of knowledge. Yeah, but I can
ask Grok almost any question that I want, and I
feel like I get pretty good and unbiased information when
I ask those questions. Well, okay, I guess I approach
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it like this. I assume everything I get from everyone
is biased, and it's my job to read numerous sources
to come to an opinion. Right. I don't agree with
that everything I consume I am reading it under the
guise of this is trying to get me to think
or to act a certain way. So I don't get
offended by like, oh, they were totally manipulating me. I
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just assume straight news other than the WBC newsroom is
now gone for the most part, that there is very
little straight news left anymore, and even stuff that is
quote unquote reporting the news. Look, the person giving you
that has a bias, They have an opinion of some sort,
and it's almost like even not intentional in many cases,
but it's human nature for your bent to come out
on something. Their entire media services that are now kind
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of based on that reality where they filter stories based
on political bias or affiliation and then try and give
you as broad an overview as possible left, right and middle. Well, look,
I think it shows out in our radio show. I
mean you think about the last two days who we've
had on this show. We've had Jesse Brown, who's an
avowed socialist on the Indie City County Council. James Briggs,
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who does a lot of investigative reporting, but I think
he will acknowledge his opinion pieces tend to be more left.
And we had a Democrat running for Secretary of State
in Bobai this morning. I and more basically kind of
the only show that will go that in depth in
terms of having Democrat politicians, No Hammer and Nigel will
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do it certainly more than Tony does. But I do
that because you know, you know how to handle these
people well. I think. I think an audience can can
consume information from the other side the same way as
I consume information from the other side all the time.
And what you find is there are a lot of
points of agreement on things. Look, there's things I think
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Jesse Brown is totally nuts. On the stuff like getting
rid of the cars, I think he's crazy. But on
battling the Hogshead administration or the city, on cutting this
deal with AES, I think he's I think he's spot on.
What I like most about your show You're in Casey show, Rob,
is that it's a far larger indictment when these politicians
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choose not to do a segment or two on the
air with you, because you'll have anybody sure, you'll invite
them and give them prime radio time. And I think
you can consume there's things people heard from bo By
today they probably say spot on, there's things they probably
heard like, ah, that's probably a little off. Same thing
with Jesse Brown, same thing with James Briggs. But we
should be able to hear the other side, consume it critically,
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think Okay, these are the things that are right, and
then the other thing is probably more affirm You're already
held belief system. So when it's scouring the internet, first tuf,
I go out of my way to read websites that
I know are liberal because it challenges the way the
way that I the way that I think. All right,
when you are on social media, you work during the day,
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so a lot of your social media is probably at night,
would be my guest, Yeah, night, afternoons. Yeah, all right,
So there's some new data out on how when you
engage in social media and how that can affect your life.
Bad news for you, Ethan. All right, well talk about
next kenel Casey Show ninety three WIBC Ethan. You're active
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on social media, try to be. You're a lot of twittering,
more so than I used to. Is there a reason
for that? After sure, Elon bought Twitter out. I joined
Twitter back in like twenty eleven. Yeah, or I had
Twitter back in twenty eleven. I just never really used
the thing until Elon bought it. So study finds well, Okay,
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let me ask you this, like, what when do you do?
Is there is there a majority of the time in
which you do your social media activity. I mean, it's
kind of all over the place. It's, you know, really
just whenever the mood strikes me. But I guess if
I had to peg down a time where I'm more
active versus less active, it would be afternoons and evenings
versus mornings. Okay, so there's a new study. Study finds
(20:37):
has the studyfinds dot org has the information out. This
is out of England, and they examined three hundred and
ten adults and what they found was that Twitter users
X whatever we're calling it these days, who regularly posted
between eleven pm and five am reported notably a lower
well being compared to people who posted during the day.
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Oh well, yeah, that tracks you should be getting rest
between eleven pm and five am. Geez, well yeah and
some of us. Now, you're a business owner, so I'm
not tweeting between eleven and five. I'm asleep between eleven
and five. Well, okay, So I was going to ask
you because when I owned my businesses, see, this was
a major issue for me. I owned a business where
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I just had work that needed to get done, and
a lot of it came about in the evening. So
most people know this, but for years I owned a company.
This was when it was a very groundbreaking thing in
the early mid two thousands where we streamed college and
pro sporting events on the internet. Obviously that's totally commonplace now.
Fifteen twenty years ago that was much less commonplace, and
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that's what I did for a job. But because sporting events,
especially high school and college, take place most of the
time in the evening and you'd have to wait until
games get over, we would stream them in archive the
games for people. It involved being up late to do
the thing, which meant I was naturally up late, so
I my internal clock and it is still screwed up
to this day. It was nothing for me to step
up till three in the morning and wake up at
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noon and be totally like that was a normal life
for me, and I've struggled ever since to get on
a regular sleep pattern. So I will often find myself
waking up at like three thirty or four in the
morning and it will take me, you know, an hour
to get back to sleep. I also have a two
year old Tyrant who liked last night, decided at three
thirty she wanted to wake up and have some fun.
(22:29):
So that's why I was about to ask you whether
or not having a child shocked your sleep pattern back
into a normal rhythm. Well, yeah, I mean it, really,
I've handled it much now. I've mentioned this before on
air Ethan. My wife has a horrible affliction and I
feel terrible for her, in which she just doesn't hear
things after about midnight, and so thankfully I hear everything.
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So it really worked out well for her that she
married somebody who hears everything and can deal with those things.
It's a horrible affliction, very convenient yet horrible affliction. But
it doesn't bother me much because I spent years being
on that sort of bizarro sleep cycle. So I will
sometimes tweet our stuff late at night because I just
happen to be up because you can't go to bed.
(23:10):
But that's probably why I'm such a tortured uh tortured
soul is because I don't get the property. You usually
have people call you out for posting weird things at
like two o'clock in the morning. Because occasionally I've seen
other content creators, especially if they're like up in the
middle of the night. What are you doing posting at
two thirty in the morning. Go to bed? Well, that's
mine is not because i'm you know, on any sort
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of substance. It's because I'm screwed up and I just
can't get back to sleep. So I think mine all
makes sense. All the letters go together, they appear to
be coherent sentences, you know, et cetera, et cetera. No,
because I think people just know I'm weird, and so
there's nothing like here's the thing that's the charm. People
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judge you based on the standard you have set forth right,
whatever standard you set forth for yourself. There's certain behaviors
that some people do them, and they're like Trump is
the perfect example of this. He has set the bar
at such a like low level that he will say
or do things that if any other politicians that are
did then there would be outraged. And which Trump It
doesn't even make the news if you're like, oh, it's Trump,
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And I've kind of figured that out a long time ago,
that there's not really a normal for me, So anything
I do, it's like, well, Rob's pretty eclectic, so that
kind of makes sense. It's an expectations game, right, just
like politics. That's why I once you it's why I
never really enter decent society because once you enter decent society,
then there are standards and norms and you're going to
be in very big trouble. So anyway, if you are
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a person, though, who does attempt to cohabitate in in
the world of the normal and acceptable, if you are
up tweeting between eleven pm and five am, it could
be irreparable harm to you and what you do. There's
so much value for the mind, for the body and
making sure that you get a good night's rest, because
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I know when I don't get a good night's sleep,
suffer through the day. My performance suffers, my thinking ability sufferers,
my ability to enjoy life sufferers. Get rest, folks, Oh yeah, totally.
I'm sure years from now, I'm going to pay for
this in just a horrible fashion. But anyway, Hey, Capital Chronicle,
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our friends over in Indiana. Capitol Chronicle had an interesting article.
By the way, its Kennell and Casey showing rob ethans
in for Casey. The Indiana Conservation Voters is doing one
hundred thousand dollars statewide media campaign and this is related
to telling lawmakers to reject redistricting, and they're going to
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run ads. They're going to be seen this weekend during
the Colts IU and Notre Dame games, so they're clearly targeting.
This would appear to be men probably between the ages
of spaces. The demo would probably be twenty five to
fifty four. That's going to be your target audience most
likely with that. And it is interesting the amount of
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effort that has been into the pushback on redistricting, and
there's all these rumors out there that they're getting ready
to call the special session. Some national news groups have
hopped on it. Look I don't think those groups have
any inside information. I think they're just kind of maybe
picking up on the story. But it is interesting. The
pushback has clearly been so strong that we are now
what three or four months into this, and they have
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yet to actually make the call. Well, it's broadly unpopular,
and I think that's what these ad campaigns are kind
of picking up on and then trying to leverage. Have
you ever seen an issue We got into this with
Nikki Kelly yesterday from the Capitol Chronicle. Have you ever
seen an issue in which the public appears to be
so overwhelmingly against it, and yet the lawmakers still seem
(26:47):
intent in some shape, form or fashion and going forward
with it. Yeah. Far too often. Look at what happened
with property taxes. Why. I recall, we all showed up
at the State House on Saint Patrick's day and we
had a very clear and coherent message to present at
the governor and he disregarded it in the order in
which it was, but not in the moment. No, I mean,
did you the moment. Didn't you walk out of there
feeling pretty good about that day that at the very
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least Braun was gonna veto whatever nonsense those guys put forward.
Didn't you walk out of there that day feeling like, hey,
maybe it actually worked in our favor for once. I yes,
and I regret getting my hopes up. I don't know
why I did that to myself. Yeah, that was just
I should have there. Yeah, and you can blame me
for that. It was. It was I'll take the blame
on it. But it is interesting that these guys and
(27:32):
girls sort of seem stuck between a rock and a
hard place, because clearly the leaders of the House and
Senate Houston and Bray don't want anything to do with this.
They're annoyed they have to deal with it. And these lawmakers,
at least on the Senate side, appear to be very
hesitant on this and don't want any part of it.
(27:52):
And they won't just put the nail in the coffin
and say we're done with it. Do whatever you're gonna do. Trump,
We're out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
See.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it's the local legislator who would have to deal
with the brunt of the pushback from a redistrict. It's
the estate wide offices at the federal level that are
broadly going to be rewarded. There's there's little incentive for
the Flanders brothers, Rod and Todd to move this forward. Yeah,
so we'll see what's gonna Look. I still can't fathom
they're actually gonna have the guts to not the guts
(28:21):
to buck the Trump administration to not do whatever Trump
wants them to do. But the fact that it's taken
this long is a massive loss. Even if they quote
unquote succeed with doing it. I mean they had to
throw the vice president at us, right, Well, they've thrown
him at us three times. We're on trip number three,
all right, let's take a break when we come back, Ethan,
if you'll indulge. Look, I think you've lived a fascinating life, Ethan.
(28:41):
I think we've just scratched the surface on the interesting
things that happened to you in your childhood. So at
the risk of opening up great trauma and torture, can
there's a stat out on how people are feeling about Halloween?
And I know Halloween was interesting for you growing up.
Can we can we tell that when we come back?
Will you do that for our audience? Let's do some
(29:03):
radio therapy, Rob, that sounds like a good time, all right.
It's Ketel Casey show ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I want to stand alone in front of the world
in that oncoming bank like a Chinese boy that we
all have to same short of sic.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Ninety three WIBC. It's Kettel and Casey showing Rob. Casey's
out today that hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle
in poor Casey. Okay, when you were a kid, you
dress up for Halloween. I wasn't allowed to. Jehovah's Witnesses
are allergic to fun. I was raised in the religious
culture of Jehovah's Witnesses, and they don't celebrate any holidays Christmas, Birthdays, Thanksgiving, Halloween.
(29:51):
I used to be terrified of Halloween because I thought
that's when all the demons came out and the really
nasty worldly people, you know, come So like, what Halloween
when like you're like, where there's school events or whatever.
I didn't go to school. I wasn't allowed to go
to school. I was a homeschooled lady. This is why
I'm so damaged. It's fascinating how to do this segment? Now? Okay,
(30:16):
so like, did your parents acknowledge Halloween? Well, of course
Halloween exists. We always made sure to keep the porch
light off to or anybody. There's no candy here children.
Did you ever get into it with your parents about
wanting to dress up and go out on Halloween? No,
because disagreements is not allowed, so you know, But were
(30:37):
you like an actual believe it? This is not where
I intended to go with this segment at all, But
now I'm fascinated. So like, did you ever say but
I want to or or in your mind where you
like I wanted to? Or were you a true believer?
Was a true believer when I was a kid, because
of course, that's the only thing that's in your reality
is what you're being told from your parents or in
my case parent because I was raised by my mother
(30:57):
as an only child. But but yeah, no, I I
I totally was a believer. I bought in. Now as
an adult, have you ever gone to a Halloween anything, Yes,
a couple of times, but it's it's just like Christmas,
it's hard to get into the spirit of the season
when you don't have the nostalgia from your youth to
look back on. That's what ties so many people to
(31:18):
these events is the fact that they you know, we're
surrounded from it when when they were from a young age,
and when you take that away, it's just I find
it difficult to get into it. Yeah, because like with Christmas,
obviously the birth of Jesus is the center of Christmas,
but from a you know, a commercialistic perspective side of it,
it's for kids, right, it's Santa Claus, it's you go
(31:39):
to the it's unwrapping presence as president of the Tree.
So like, as an adult, I don't mean to do
like some deep dive here, but as an adult, are
you like I hate that I never got to go
see Santa Claus. Yeah, yeah, I mean that would be
I feel like I got cheated, got Rob. Yeah, but
would I would be miserable about that. It's amazing you
turned out to be as productive a being as you have.
(32:00):
Oh I'll tell you how messed up it was, Rob,
Because I told you I was a homeschool That's true
for all of but one year I was sent to
the sixth grade as a punishment because I was not
living up to the expectations that were set for me
in homeschooling. And I did so well in public school
and really enjoyed it that I was taken out of
public school the following year also as a punishment. That's horrible.
(32:24):
So wait, wait, like when Jehovah's witnesses homeschool, like where
there's a group of you that are in the schooling together.
Not all Jehovah's witnesses are homeschooled because Jehovah's witnesses demographically
tend to be very poor, so not everybody could afford
to homeschool their children and must rely on public education.
That was just my personal health. Were you buy your
(32:46):
subjected to Yes, I was an only child. Yes, I
mean you spent hours and hours and hours and hours
and hours of my life alone. Yeah. So you my gosh,
I wasn't trying to go to any of this with
this segment, but now I can't get off of it.
Three on Halloween costumes. But wait, wait, so like what
your mother was your teacher and it was just just you.
It wasn't like a group like a five kids in
(33:08):
a room or whatever. It was just me. And so
she got mad at you and sent you to public
school as a punishment. And then you loved it because
like your round kids, it's fun like you like, like
I did really well. I was like good with the teachers.
I got pretty good grades. You know. I wanted to
be part of like the school theater, which I wasn't
allowed to because it conflicted with meeting time, with going
(33:31):
to the Kingdom Hall on Thursday. That that you were
having too much fun and she yanked you out. Yeah yeah,
my gosh. The fact that you're not a in a
federal prison somewhere is amazing, Ethan. Let's thank you, Rob,
that's amazing. I have just I mean, like I knew
you had some tumultuous things I didn't know, like to
the extent that was things like this. Yeah, no, we
(33:52):
welcome to the wonderful wide world, wacky world of Jehovah's witnesses.
One time, because I wasn't living up to her expectations,
he sent me to my room to be alone for
ten days, and I was allowed to come out for dinner.
You know, of course I got to have dinner. But
I mean I didn't go to school. I got to
go to church. Of course they don't call it church.
(34:13):
Got to go to the Kingdom Hall, you know, Monday's
Thursday to talk about or are you just immune to it
at this point? Just immune too, It's just you're just
part of the backt about it. Yeah. Well, I mean
it's things that happened because like as a kid, my
mother now she denies she did this now, but she
totally did this. She would like discipline me, but make
my dad do the actual disciplining. So like, Robert, go
(34:35):
to your room, you're gonna be a big trouble when
your dad gets home. But I would be in my
room for like an hour. Now, she pretend at all
herself because she divorced my father when I was still
an infant. So yeah, but I was like he was
ten days. It was like an hour worth the punishment
and a stern lecture for my father, and then everybody
goes about their you know, merry business and all as well.
(34:55):
Ten days. Yeah, well what can I say? I got
to read. I had library books. Yeah, okay, Well the
point of all this, we're supposed to be Halloween costumes.
Where we started here. Fox News has a list of
the top Halloween costume searches for this year. I've got
to admit they're all from this same It's a show.
It's a movie that did very well. I kind of
(35:17):
want to see it. I've never heard of it. It's
on Netflix. It's k Pop Demon Hunters, okay, and they're
like characters the top five. Yeah, there's supposed to be
a kids movie of some sort, right, because this is
obviously animated commuter animated film, right. And then so the
top five or all of these characters from this K
Pop Demon Hunters movie, and then I don't know, I
(35:42):
honestly don't know who anybody any of these top nine
are Chicken Jockey from Minecraft. I know who that is.
That was a computer game when I was a kid. Well,
it's still very popular. It's one of the most popular
games in the world. Behind Roadblocks, I think love Boo Boo. Yeah,
those are those creepy new dolls. They're like the Furbies
of the twenty twelve. There be the Tiger also from
(36:05):
the K pop Demon Hunters. Yeah, el Faba from Wicked. Yeah,
and Glinda she was less popular though, uh is witch. Yeah,
Glinda's the cherry one. L Faba is the Valuitch Okay,
so the good Witch of the North was was She's
less popular? Okay? Yeah? And then I know, did you
see people in Indiana? I think it was Fort Wayne
(36:26):
Is dressing up like Donnie Darko that made the list. Yeah,
you didn't see two thousand and one's Donnie Darko. That
was a cult the movie. Yeah me, No, I never
saw it, but I know I know of the movie.
It's a weird movie, a weird character. It's it's just
kind of funny that made the list at all because
it's more than twenty years old now. And now I
do know. Number ten, the Lorax. That's Doctor Seuss. Okay,
so that's your top TiO for the trees. Yeah, I think, like, uh,
(36:49):
I don't even know it was number one when I
was a kid, probably Groucho Marx, people dressing up I'm
not years old. Well, I mean, but everybody has the
glasses in the nose with the mustache everybody or something
like that. Well, that was a terribly uplifting way to
endo our program today. Thank you for bearing your soul
to the audience. Ethan. Thank you did a great job
filling in this week. Man, We appreciate you. Thanks for
(37:09):
having me Rob, Yeah, it's good do it for us
this week. Thank you, Ethan, Kevin. Great job is always
the most importantly Thank you to you. Without you, there
is Noah's It's Kettle, a Casey Show, Tony Kat's coming
up next ninety three WIBC.
All right, ethan dealer's choice. We got to get to
both of these, So I'll let you decide which when
we do first, Kill Casey Show and Rob Casey's out
Ethan Hatchers and for Casey today here on Saturday Night,
seven to nine, Saturday Night on the Circle. keV is
here as well. Do you want to do government shutdown
stuff first? Or do you want to do aliens first? Oh,
(00:22):
let's do aliens government shutdowns? Old news. We've been at
that for more than two weeks. Now you're on day seventeen. Yeh,
it's still going. Mike Johnson's blaming AOC and so little
has changed in my day to day life. Yeah yeah,
yeahh okay. So there's a new documentary. A variety has
this article. There's a new documentary that's coming out. It's
called Age of Disclosure, and it's going to be in
(00:44):
various theaters and it's also going to have what they're
calling a concurrent concurrent release with Amazon Primes, like if
you're an Amazon Prime subscriber, you should have access to this.
And basically what it alleges is there has been an
eighty what they're just going having as an eighty year
global cover up of non human intelligent life and a
(01:05):
secret war among major nations to reverse engineer advanced technology
of non human origin. Okay, so they're going to interview
thirty four members of the US government, military, and intelligence
communities to expose what they're describing as profound stakes for
the future of humanity. So it sounds like I mean, look,
there's been many, many documentaries, you know, interviews, whatever, about
(01:29):
investigations on alien life, and before we get into it,
i'd be curiously, do you believe in aliens? I would
like to believe, but I've seen no evidence of it.
So do you think all the people are lying? Like
all these people reported some sort of I'm sure some
of them are lying, But could they all be lying
about these various encounters over the many years. Well, sometimes
(01:53):
I've seen people speak very passionately about anomalies that they
don't understand, like camera anomalies that people are able to
who replicate using just basic physics or optical illusions, and
they don't understand what they're seeing. So yeah, maybe they
believe that they have seen something anomalous or strange that
in their mind could only be explained by extraterrestrial life.
(02:14):
But they just don't have the evidence to back it up.
They never do. What about the people that claim they've
been visited by the aliens so they are under sada?
That's all of them lying? Yeah, that's that's that's not
there's no other people who've been praying. They're lying where
they're delusional. Just kind of kind of like we have
politicians that run around saying that God personally speaks to them.
I think these people are delusional? Can they? But can
(02:34):
they all be lying? I mean you don't think it's
a conspiracy, right you think like there are a lot
of crazy people in this world? Rob? Yeah, Okay, I know. Look,
I'm not saying that's. Tim Burchat, congressman from Tennessee, was
on Tucker Carlson just the other day and he was
talking about, well, I've spoken with navy men, and I've
just had a lot of people tell me things, but
(02:55):
they never get to the there there Ana Pauline Luna
from Florida, she's talked about this. I think Mark or
Rubio may have talked about it once or twice. They
will allude to something, but it's time to put up
or shut up. Rob. I'm tired of being teased. I'm
tired of being teased about the possibility without any hard
and fast evidence to support it. I would like to
(03:15):
believe that we are not alone in the universe. I
think it would be a lot of wasted real estate
in this vast, you know, galaxy that we find ourselves
in if we were truly the only sentient life that
had ever risen in the universe before now, but I've
not seen it. I think it would be fascinating if
that were the case, and it would completely change our
(03:37):
understanding of the world. You do hit on a good point,
which is shouldn't we have caught something by now? I mean,
it's you know, it's twenty twenty five, everything's filmed, everything's videoed, like,
shouldn't at some point there have been some sort of
capture that the government didn't get to first. Shouldn't there
have been some sort of hey, this thing went down
in a field, or you know, there was a photograph
(03:58):
of this that's you know, definitive proof. Shouldn't that That
is a fair point. Shouldn't that have happened by now?
Also the idea that none of this has ever been
successfully leaked from the government. The government can't keep secrets forever.
Eventually this information is leaked out when it's need to
be needed to be known by the general public. I mean,
look what Edward Snowden was able to do about revealing
(04:19):
the surveillance state, and they couldn't keep a lid on him,
But they can keep a lid on all these UFO anomalies. Nah. Nah,
it's fun to imagine. I like the X Files, I
like science fiction, but you know, if we're dealing with,
you know, matters of reality and just don't buy it.
But then I also think you also make a good point,
which is this vast and incredible universe, it can't just
(04:43):
be us, right, I mean God's I guess God would
do whatever God wants to do. Oh Man at a
theory on this years ago. It always stuck with me
and I thought this might be the best explanation. What
if they're time travelers. What if aliens or unidentified flying
objects or whatever are time travel and that's why they
can't get caught because it would disrupt everything anytime they
(05:04):
get caught quoe unquote caught. What if they're studying humans, Like,
what if we had the ability to go back in time?
Like right now, you think people wouldn't be going back
in time to study Abraham Lincoln or George Washington or
that actually brushes very close to another conspiracy. What if
we are the Aliens? Not only that were they're time travelers,
but we are the time traveling aliens. And that's why
(05:26):
occasionally you'll see like a doppelganger. These are time traveling
tourists that are going back to a younger Earth, of
the far distant past. We are the past. Yes, we
are the future. We are the Aliens. We are the conspiracy. Oh,
I see, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Anyway, so
that's coming out again. The name of if you're a
November twenty first is the release date on this. The
(05:48):
Age of Disclosure is the name.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
See.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm more interested in that John Candy documentary that just
came out on Amazon than another rerun episode of Ancient Aliens.
I already watched that on History Channel. You have not
You've not seen the Candy documentary yet, not yet. We
talked about this yesterday. It's excellent. You should totally watch it.
Everybody would enjoy it. It's called I Like Me, and
it's different in the sense of it's not just like him,
(06:11):
then he was in this movie, and then he was
in that movie. It's interviews almost the whole thing is
interviews with people his personal life, right right right. I
mean they'd obviously touched on his career in how different
roles impacted him personally, but it's interviews with and what
it's amazing about that movie, and we talked about this
the other day, is the amount of people who are
still living who were I mean, he would be seventy
four years old now or was about to be about
(06:33):
to turn Yeah, he'd be seventy four, he'd be about
to turn seventy five years old. He's one of those people,
John Candy, And it's weird, like whether it Sannis Joplin
or Jimmy Hendrix or Jim Morrison or whoever, you just
can't picture them being old. And Bill Murray, Eugene Levy,
Catherine O'Hara, all these Dan Akroy, these people who were
in his orbit are thankfully still living and are are
a part of it. Okay, let's get to the shutdown
(06:56):
real quick. So Mike Johnson, he is the Speaker of
the how the House of course has already passed a budget.
Is what the Senate refuses to pass. Mike Johnson has
basically said, to his credit, we're not coming back. We
have passed our budget. We will come back when the
Senate is done with their work and then we will
consider other things. And here is Mike Johnson yesterday. Look,
(07:20):
they're really trying to make AOC. This is interesting sort
of the face or de facto leader of the Democrat Party.
Now have you noticed this either. I'm saying the Republicans
are trying to do this. They clearly must have some
sort of pulling or data amongst the populace at large
that she moves in a negative direction because they're really
going out of their way, many of them, to try
(07:41):
to make her sort of like, well, these people are
being subservient. Chuck Schumer is being subservient to AOC. She
is essentially the heir apparent of the Bernie Sanders wing
of the Democrat Party. I think you have that photo
that's been circulating of Bernie and AOC and socialist Zoran
mom Nami, who's running from air. They're in New York City,
all chumming around and hanging out, so it tracks all right.
(08:06):
So he was on CNN and he addressed AOC's criticism.
She had some sort of town hall that she did.
I think it was in CNN, and so he responded
to that and also defended the House Republicans response to
the shutdown.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Your responsor, Yeah, instead of doing publicity stunts like AOC
likes to do, instead of making social media videos. Republicans
are working. We have been working right now. They're in
their districts doing very valuable work. In our press conference
this morning, I highlighted some of the very important things
they're doing right now. What are they doing. They're trying
to help their constituents navigate through this crisis that has
(08:39):
been created by Democrats like AOC. She voted on September
nineteenth in the House to block the pay for troops
TSA agents, border patrol agents, air traffic controllers, to stop
the services to nutrition supplemental programs to women, infants, and children.
She voted to stop service to the elderly and disabled
(08:59):
and veterans. That's her vote record, and she's trying to
obscure that fact and blame Republicans. I am always open
to negotiating, but we had the negotiations in the House
and the mutual agreement by Republicans and Democrats who were
appropriators who were working on the government funding was to
extend it for seven weeks to November twenty first, so
they would have time to finish the appropriations process. AOC
(09:21):
engaged in a political stunt, as did Honk King Jeffreys,
and voted against it for their own partisan political purposes,
and they have created this mess, so it doesn't matter
how many hours you give her in a town hall,
the first ever socialist town hall on CNN. I'm glad
it was aired. You got to hear their real views,
and it's pretty dangerous for the future of America.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't know we got to cover this because obviously
it's a big deal that the government is quote unquote
shut down, but you and I talked about this earlier.
I just have a really hard time getting invested in
any of this because my life really isn't being altered,
and I think normal people's lives, for the most part,
aren't being altered. I'm not saying obviously his workers are
being laid off or whatever, that's a big deal to them,
but I just and especially they continue to move money around,
(10:02):
and you know, as long as they're paying the troops
and like, I think it's just it just seems like
a lot of dinner theater right now. Yes, but I'm
sure you can appreciate the strategy that I think is
being attempted to be employed here. And as you know,
politics is largely a game of expectations. Being able to
paint AOC as a lunatic and rely on her to
(10:25):
do crazy things is a low hanging fruit in terms
of political expectations. So if they can successfully couch their
message wrapping it up around that, it's also easy to
communicate how crazy she is to the general public. That
just strikes me as a smart strategy on their part.
All right, when we come back, the robots are taking over.
(10:47):
We have new data that is very scary and the
latest latest example of how we're all we're all doomed.
We'll talk about it next. Keithan's in for casey ninety
three WIBC Doumble Money Got I see what you did here?
And that's a Dnnisty Young stick song. You really keV
(11:11):
checked two boxes with one act. I don't know if
you intended to do that or not.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So was this during when dennist Young was in the band.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This is the end of Styx. They got mad at
the Young for doing this because Tommy Shaw's a moron.
It's kind of a Casey show. I'm rob Casey's out today.
I didn't know all the history of this song. Oh yeah,
this was the end of So this was like eighty
four eighty five. Styx was very one of the biggest
rock bands in the world. And Dennis D. Young, who
was the backbone of the band, the guy who wrote
(11:39):
and sang most of the songs, certainly the songs of
any decency or conceptibility in good society, decided you want
to do this concept album of mister Roboto, and because
Tommy Shaw is the likability of a gnat and no
creativity whatsoever, through a fit and broke the band up.
So but you did this, keV, not just for that reason.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, it's symbolics.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sometimes keV will play things just to test me. He
knows the response he's going to get and he will
just put them out there. But it's because we're talking
about robots here. That's why you did this, right, right,
very good? Yeah, knows what he's doing when he does
that music selection. It's professional. Yes. Anyway, So Axios had
an interesting article out about the amount of content on
the Internet that is now written by robots, or as
(12:23):
we call it today, artificial intelligence. Ethan. Now more than
half of articles written on the Internet are written no
longer by humans, written by robots. That doesn't surprise me.
Fifty percent fifty two percent, I'm sorry, of articles that
(12:43):
you consume that the public at large consumes are written
by artificial intelligence. There is a theory that most of
the interactions on the Internet are actually overseen by bots
or artificial and in intelligence. It's a whole theory of
the Internet. So like desolate Internet, barren Internet, and I
can't remember the specific term, but the idea that there
are fundamentally far fewer real people who are interacting with
(13:07):
these social media sides totally than you you would think,
oh totally. And it used to be you could spot
them pretty easy based on like the profile picture or
like did their profile name have nine numbers after it?
But I think it's getting better and better on how
these accounts are being set up and activated lack of
(13:27):
a better term. It's been proven that they do this
with dating websites as well, where they create artificial accounts
on the dating website to give you the impression that
there are far more people using it, and therefore the
capability of achieving a partner of some kind is far
greater than it is, so you'll give them money. Indeed, well,
you're sent moneyne you're single. You ever encountered a fake
(13:48):
person on the dating site? I have, I have suspected,
but it's hard to pin it down. I'll tell you what.
It's hard to get a date out of those dating websites. Okay,
so those are a few far between. I'd intend to
do this, but I'm gonna I'm going to ask you
about this. Like you're a person of some stature, right,
you are a known broadcast or in the city of Indianapolis.
(14:10):
You have most highly rated Saturday evening show from seven
to nine. There you go, perfect and you have views
that I mean, some people may agree with your views,
some people may disagree with your views, but you put
your political views out into the public to be consumed.
Do you worry when you're on a dating side of Oh,
somebody's going to be on there and they're gonna find
out who I am, and then they're just gonna be
(14:31):
on like a you know, a kamikaze mission to try
to take me down. They'll pretend to want to meet
me or whatever. Oh no, no, most people don't have
that time in the day. You'd have to be a
real nuts to go specifically eat with somebody. Well not
those on the dating Well there there are, but they've
never specifically sought me out, thankfully they Yeah. I mean, look,
if they're going to hate you for your political affiliation,
(14:51):
then it was probably not going to work out anyway.
So yeah, okay, keV, you ever met a robot on
the dating sites, any person that you engaged in a
long love affair and then found out they were just
not even human.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
No, I'm pretty good at knowing right away that they're fake.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But you can't see them. You have encountered the robots, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I mean there's people that make these fake profiles and
they'll have like their Snapchat and their bios.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah. So you conciously attractive women with like two photos
in the in the profile. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And you can tell the photos are like sort of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Grainy screenshots, grainy screenshots or stock images. Yeah, my flip phone.
There this fundle with my flip phone. Okay, yeah, so
this is the bigger story here. Though, is that the
robots are taking over. I mean, so Axios has this chart,
and even as little as three years ago November of
(15:46):
twenty two, there was less than ten percent of all
content was generated by robots on the Internet. So in
three years you've gone from ten to fifty two percent.
That's like massive increase. Here's a counter question for you,
rob that occurs to me in the moment. Would you
trust AI to deliver you unbiased, unwashed information more than
(16:08):
partisan media democrats because I think you programmed the robot
to do whatever it is you wanted. Somebody's programming this
robot right until the robots can program themselves, there has
to be a base of knowledge. Yeah, but I can
ask Grok almost any question that I want, and I
feel like I get pretty good and unbiased information when
I ask those questions. Well, okay, I guess I approach
(16:29):
it like this. I assume everything I get from everyone
is biased, and it's my job to read numerous sources
to come to an opinion. Right. I don't agree with
that everything I consume I am reading it under the
guise of this is trying to get me to think
or to act a certain way. So I don't get
offended by like, oh, they were totally manipulating me. I
(16:49):
just assume straight news other than the WBC newsroom is
now gone for the most part, that there is very
little straight news left anymore, and even stuff that is
quote unquote reporting the news. Look, the person giving you
that has a bias, They have an opinion of some sort,
and it's almost like even not intentional in many cases,
but it's human nature for your bent to come out
on something. Their entire media services that are now kind
(17:12):
of based on that reality where they filter stories based
on political bias or affiliation and then try and give
you as broad an overview as possible left, right and middle. Well, look,
I think it shows out in our radio show. I
mean you think about the last two days who we've
had on this show. We've had Jesse Brown, who's an
avowed socialist on the Indie City County Council. James Briggs,
(17:35):
who does a lot of investigative reporting, but I think
he will acknowledge his opinion pieces tend to be more left.
And we had a Democrat running for Secretary of State
in Bobai this morning. I and more basically kind of
the only show that will go that in depth in
terms of having Democrat politicians, No Hammer and Nigel will
(17:57):
do it certainly more than Tony does. But I do
that because you know, you know how to handle these
people well. I think. I think an audience can can
consume information from the other side the same way as
I consume information from the other side all the time.
And what you find is there are a lot of
points of agreement on things. Look, there's things I think
(18:17):
Jesse Brown is totally nuts. On the stuff like getting
rid of the cars, I think he's crazy. But on
battling the Hogshead administration or the city, on cutting this
deal with AES, I think he's I think he's spot on.
What I like most about your show You're in Casey show, Rob,
is that it's a far larger indictment when these politicians
(18:37):
choose not to do a segment or two on the
air with you, because you'll have anybody sure, you'll invite
them and give them prime radio time. And I think
you can consume there's things people heard from bo By
today they probably say spot on, there's things they probably
heard like, ah, that's probably a little off. Same thing
with Jesse Brown, same thing with James Briggs. But we
should be able to hear the other side, consume it critically,
(19:01):
think Okay, these are the things that are right, and
then the other thing is probably more affirm You're already
held belief system. So when it's scouring the internet, first tuf,
I go out of my way to read websites that
I know are liberal because it challenges the way the
way that I the way that I think. All right,
when you are on social media, you work during the day,
(19:22):
so a lot of your social media is probably at night,
would be my guest, Yeah, night, afternoons. Yeah, all right,
So there's some new data out on how when you
engage in social media and how that can affect your life.
Bad news for you, Ethan. All right, well talk about
next kenel Casey Show ninety three WIBC Ethan. You're active
(19:48):
on social media, try to be. You're a lot of twittering,
more so than I used to. Is there a reason
for that? After sure, Elon bought Twitter out. I joined
Twitter back in like twenty eleven. Yeah, or I had
Twitter back in twenty eleven. I just never really used
the thing until Elon bought it. So study finds well, Okay,
(20:13):
let me ask you this, like, what when do you do?
Is there is there a majority of the time in
which you do your social media activity. I mean, it's
kind of all over the place. It's, you know, really
just whenever the mood strikes me. But I guess if
I had to peg down a time where I'm more
active versus less active, it would be afternoons and evenings
versus mornings. Okay, so there's a new study. Study finds
(20:37):
has the studyfinds dot org has the information out. This
is out of England, and they examined three hundred and
ten adults and what they found was that Twitter users
X whatever we're calling it these days, who regularly posted
between eleven pm and five am reported notably a lower
well being compared to people who posted during the day.
(21:01):
Oh well, yeah, that tracks you should be getting rest
between eleven pm and five am. Geez, well yeah and
some of us. Now, you're a business owner, so I'm
not tweeting between eleven and five. I'm asleep between eleven
and five. Well, okay, So I was going to ask
you because when I owned my businesses, see, this was
a major issue for me. I owned a business where
(21:24):
I just had work that needed to get done, and
a lot of it came about in the evening. So
most people know this, but for years I owned a company.
This was when it was a very groundbreaking thing in
the early mid two thousands where we streamed college and
pro sporting events on the internet. Obviously that's totally commonplace now.
Fifteen twenty years ago that was much less commonplace, and
(21:47):
that's what I did for a job. But because sporting events,
especially high school and college, take place most of the
time in the evening and you'd have to wait until
games get over, we would stream them in archive the
games for people. It involved being up late to do
the thing, which meant I was naturally up late, so
I my internal clock and it is still screwed up
to this day. It was nothing for me to step
up till three in the morning and wake up at
(22:08):
noon and be totally like that was a normal life
for me, and I've struggled ever since to get on
a regular sleep pattern. So I will often find myself
waking up at like three thirty or four in the
morning and it will take me, you know, an hour
to get back to sleep. I also have a two
year old Tyrant who liked last night, decided at three
thirty she wanted to wake up and have some fun.
(22:29):
So that's why I was about to ask you whether
or not having a child shocked your sleep pattern back
into a normal rhythm. Well, yeah, I mean it, really,
I've handled it much now. I've mentioned this before on
air Ethan. My wife has a horrible affliction and I
feel terrible for her, in which she just doesn't hear
things after about midnight, and so thankfully I hear everything.
(22:49):
So it really worked out well for her that she
married somebody who hears everything and can deal with those things.
It's a horrible affliction, very convenient yet horrible affliction. But
it doesn't bother me much because I spent years being
on that sort of bizarro sleep cycle. So I will
sometimes tweet our stuff late at night because I just
happen to be up because you can't go to bed.
(23:10):
But that's probably why I'm such a tortured uh tortured
soul is because I don't get the property. You usually
have people call you out for posting weird things at
like two o'clock in the morning. Because occasionally I've seen
other content creators, especially if they're like up in the
middle of the night. What are you doing posting at
two thirty in the morning. Go to bed? Well, that's
mine is not because i'm you know, on any sort
(23:30):
of substance. It's because I'm screwed up and I just
can't get back to sleep. So I think mine all
makes sense. All the letters go together, they appear to
be coherent sentences, you know, et cetera, et cetera. No,
because I think people just know I'm weird, and so
there's nothing like here's the thing that's the charm. People
(23:50):
judge you based on the standard you have set forth right,
whatever standard you set forth for yourself. There's certain behaviors
that some people do them, and they're like Trump is
the perfect example of this. He has set the bar
at such a like low level that he will say
or do things that if any other politicians that are
did then there would be outraged. And which Trump It
doesn't even make the news if you're like, oh, it's Trump,
(24:13):
And I've kind of figured that out a long time ago,
that there's not really a normal for me, So anything
I do, it's like, well, Rob's pretty eclectic, so that
kind of makes sense. It's an expectations game, right, just
like politics. That's why I once you it's why I
never really enter decent society because once you enter decent society,
then there are standards and norms and you're going to
be in very big trouble. So anyway, if you are
(24:34):
a person, though, who does attempt to cohabitate in in
the world of the normal and acceptable, if you are
up tweeting between eleven pm and five am, it could
be irreparable harm to you and what you do. There's
so much value for the mind, for the body and
making sure that you get a good night's rest, because
(24:56):
I know when I don't get a good night's sleep,
suffer through the day. My performance suffers, my thinking ability sufferers,
my ability to enjoy life sufferers. Get rest, folks, Oh yeah, totally.
I'm sure years from now, I'm going to pay for
this in just a horrible fashion. But anyway, Hey, Capital Chronicle,
(25:16):
our friends over in Indiana. Capitol Chronicle had an interesting article.
By the way, its Kennell and Casey showing rob ethans
in for Casey. The Indiana Conservation Voters is doing one
hundred thousand dollars statewide media campaign and this is related
to telling lawmakers to reject redistricting, and they're going to
(25:40):
run ads. They're going to be seen this weekend during
the Colts IU and Notre Dame games, so they're clearly targeting.
This would appear to be men probably between the ages
of spaces. The demo would probably be twenty five to
fifty four. That's going to be your target audience most
likely with that. And it is interesting the amount of
(26:03):
effort that has been into the pushback on redistricting, and
there's all these rumors out there that they're getting ready
to call the special session. Some national news groups have
hopped on it. Look I don't think those groups have
any inside information. I think they're just kind of maybe
picking up on the story. But it is interesting. The
pushback has clearly been so strong that we are now
what three or four months into this, and they have
(26:23):
yet to actually make the call. Well, it's broadly unpopular,
and I think that's what these ad campaigns are kind
of picking up on and then trying to leverage. Have
you ever seen an issue We got into this with
Nikki Kelly yesterday from the Capitol Chronicle. Have you ever
seen an issue in which the public appears to be
so overwhelmingly against it, and yet the lawmakers still seem
(26:47):
intent in some shape, form or fashion and going forward
with it. Yeah. Far too often. Look at what happened
with property taxes. Why. I recall, we all showed up
at the State House on Saint Patrick's day and we
had a very clear and coherent message to present at
the governor and he disregarded it in the order in
which it was, but not in the moment. No, I mean,
did you the moment. Didn't you walk out of there
feeling pretty good about that day that at the very
(27:10):
least Braun was gonna veto whatever nonsense those guys put forward.
Didn't you walk out of there that day feeling like, hey,
maybe it actually worked in our favor for once. I yes,
and I regret getting my hopes up. I don't know
why I did that to myself. Yeah, that was just
I should have there. Yeah, and you can blame me
for that. It was. It was I'll take the blame
on it. But it is interesting that these guys and
(27:32):
girls sort of seem stuck between a rock and a
hard place, because clearly the leaders of the House and
Senate Houston and Bray don't want anything to do with this.
They're annoyed they have to deal with it. And these lawmakers,
at least on the Senate side, appear to be very
hesitant on this and don't want any part of it.
(27:52):
And they won't just put the nail in the coffin
and say we're done with it. Do whatever you're gonna do. Trump,
We're out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
See.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it's the local legislator who would have to deal
with the brunt of the pushback from a redistrict. It's
the estate wide offices at the federal level that are
broadly going to be rewarded. There's there's little incentive for
the Flanders brothers, Rod and Todd to move this forward. Yeah,
so we'll see what's gonna Look. I still can't fathom
they're actually gonna have the guts to not the guts
(28:21):
to buck the Trump administration to not do whatever Trump
wants them to do. But the fact that it's taken
this long is a massive loss. Even if they quote
unquote succeed with doing it. I mean they had to
throw the vice president at us, right, Well, they've thrown
him at us three times. We're on trip number three,
all right, let's take a break when we come back, Ethan,
if you'll indulge. Look, I think you've lived a fascinating life, Ethan.
(28:41):
I think we've just scratched the surface on the interesting
things that happened to you in your childhood. So at
the risk of opening up great trauma and torture, can
there's a stat out on how people are feeling about Halloween?
And I know Halloween was interesting for you growing up.
Can we can we tell that when we come back?
Will you do that for our audience? Let's do some
(29:03):
radio therapy, Rob, that sounds like a good time, all right.
It's Ketel Casey show ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I want to stand alone in front of the world
in that oncoming bank like a Chinese boy that we
all have to same short of sic.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Ninety three WIBC. It's Kettel and Casey showing Rob. Casey's
out today that hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle
in poor Casey. Okay, when you were a kid, you
dress up for Halloween. I wasn't allowed to. Jehovah's Witnesses
are allergic to fun. I was raised in the religious
culture of Jehovah's Witnesses, and they don't celebrate any holidays Christmas, Birthdays, Thanksgiving, Halloween.
(29:51):
I used to be terrified of Halloween because I thought
that's when all the demons came out and the really
nasty worldly people, you know, come So like, what Halloween
when like you're like, where there's school events or whatever.
I didn't go to school. I wasn't allowed to go
to school. I was a homeschooled lady. This is why
I'm so damaged. It's fascinating how to do this segment? Now? Okay,
(30:16):
so like, did your parents acknowledge Halloween? Well, of course
Halloween exists. We always made sure to keep the porch
light off to or anybody. There's no candy here children.
Did you ever get into it with your parents about
wanting to dress up and go out on Halloween? No,
because disagreements is not allowed, so you know, But were
(30:37):
you like an actual believe it? This is not where
I intended to go with this segment at all, But
now I'm fascinated. So like, did you ever say but
I want to or or in your mind where you
like I wanted to? Or were you a true believer?
Was a true believer when I was a kid, because
of course, that's the only thing that's in your reality
is what you're being told from your parents or in
my case parent because I was raised by my mother
(30:57):
as an only child. But but yeah, no, I I
I totally was a believer. I bought in. Now as
an adult, have you ever gone to a Halloween anything, Yes,
a couple of times, but it's it's just like Christmas,
it's hard to get into the spirit of the season
when you don't have the nostalgia from your youth to
look back on. That's what ties so many people to
(31:18):
these events is the fact that they you know, we're
surrounded from it when when they were from a young age,
and when you take that away, it's just I find
it difficult to get into it. Yeah, because like with Christmas,
obviously the birth of Jesus is the center of Christmas,
but from a you know, a commercialistic perspective side of it,
it's for kids, right, it's Santa Claus, it's you go
(31:39):
to the it's unwrapping presence as president of the Tree.
So like, as an adult, I don't mean to do
like some deep dive here, but as an adult, are
you like I hate that I never got to go
see Santa Claus. Yeah, yeah, I mean that would be
I feel like I got cheated, got Rob. Yeah, but
would I would be miserable about that. It's amazing you
turned out to be as productive a being as you have.
(32:00):
Oh I'll tell you how messed up it was, Rob,
Because I told you I was a homeschool That's true
for all of but one year I was sent to
the sixth grade as a punishment because I was not
living up to the expectations that were set for me
in homeschooling. And I did so well in public school
and really enjoyed it that I was taken out of
public school the following year also as a punishment. That's horrible.
(32:24):
So wait, wait, like when Jehovah's witnesses homeschool, like where
there's a group of you that are in the schooling together.
Not all Jehovah's witnesses are homeschooled because Jehovah's witnesses demographically
tend to be very poor, so not everybody could afford
to homeschool their children and must rely on public education.
That was just my personal health. Were you buy your
(32:46):
subjected to Yes, I was an only child. Yes, I
mean you spent hours and hours and hours and hours
and hours of my life alone. Yeah. So you my gosh,
I wasn't trying to go to any of this with
this segment, but now I can't get off of it.
Three on Halloween costumes. But wait, wait, so like what
your mother was your teacher and it was just just you.
It wasn't like a group like a five kids in
(33:08):
a room or whatever. It was just me. And so
she got mad at you and sent you to public
school as a punishment. And then you loved it because
like your round kids, it's fun like you like, like
I did really well. I was like good with the teachers.
I got pretty good grades. You know. I wanted to
be part of like the school theater, which I wasn't
allowed to because it conflicted with meeting time, with going
(33:31):
to the Kingdom Hall on Thursday. That that you were
having too much fun and she yanked you out. Yeah yeah,
my gosh. The fact that you're not a in a
federal prison somewhere is amazing, Ethan. Let's thank you, Rob,
that's amazing. I have just I mean, like I knew
you had some tumultuous things I didn't know, like to
the extent that was things like this. Yeah, no, we
(33:52):
welcome to the wonderful wide world, wacky world of Jehovah's witnesses.
One time, because I wasn't living up to her expectations,
he sent me to my room to be alone for
ten days, and I was allowed to come out for dinner.
You know, of course I got to have dinner. But
I mean I didn't go to school. I got to
go to church. Of course they don't call it church.
(34:13):
Got to go to the Kingdom Hall, you know, Monday's
Thursday to talk about or are you just immune to it
at this point? Just immune too, It's just you're just
part of the backt about it. Yeah. Well, I mean
it's things that happened because like as a kid, my
mother now she denies she did this now, but she
totally did this. She would like discipline me, but make
my dad do the actual disciplining. So like, Robert, go
(34:35):
to your room, you're gonna be a big trouble when
your dad gets home. But I would be in my
room for like an hour. Now, she pretend at all
herself because she divorced my father when I was still
an infant. So yeah, but I was like he was
ten days. It was like an hour worth the punishment
and a stern lecture for my father, and then everybody
goes about their you know, merry business and all as well.
(34:55):
Ten days. Yeah, well what can I say? I got
to read. I had library books. Yeah, okay, Well the
point of all this, we're supposed to be Halloween costumes.
Where we started here. Fox News has a list of
the top Halloween costume searches for this year. I've got
to admit they're all from this same It's a show.
It's a movie that did very well. I kind of
(35:17):
want to see it. I've never heard of it. It's
on Netflix. It's k Pop Demon Hunters, okay, and they're
like characters the top five. Yeah, there's supposed to be
a kids movie of some sort, right, because this is
obviously animated commuter animated film, right. And then so the
top five or all of these characters from this K
Pop Demon Hunters movie, and then I don't know, I
(35:42):
honestly don't know who anybody any of these top nine
are Chicken Jockey from Minecraft. I know who that is.
That was a computer game when I was a kid. Well,
it's still very popular. It's one of the most popular
games in the world. Behind Roadblocks, I think love Boo Boo. Yeah,
those are those creepy new dolls. They're like the Furbies
of the twenty twelve. There be the Tiger also from
(36:05):
the K pop Demon Hunters. Yeah, el Faba from Wicked. Yeah,
and Glinda she was less popular though, uh is witch. Yeah,
Glinda's the cherry one. L Faba is the Valuitch Okay,
so the good Witch of the North was was She's
less popular? Okay? Yeah? And then I know, did you
see people in Indiana? I think it was Fort Wayne
(36:26):
Is dressing up like Donnie Darko that made the list. Yeah,
you didn't see two thousand and one's Donnie Darko. That
was a cult the movie. Yeah me, No, I never
saw it, but I know I know of the movie.
It's a weird movie, a weird character. It's it's just
kind of funny that made the list at all because
it's more than twenty years old now. And now I
do know. Number ten, the Lorax. That's Doctor Seuss. Okay,
so that's your top TiO for the trees. Yeah, I think, like, uh,
(36:49):
I don't even know it was number one when I
was a kid, probably Groucho Marx, people dressing up I'm
not years old. Well, I mean, but everybody has the
glasses in the nose with the mustache everybody or something
like that. Well, that was a terribly uplifting way to
endo our program today. Thank you for bearing your soul
to the audience. Ethan. Thank you did a great job
filling in this week. Man, We appreciate you. Thanks for
(37:09):
having me Rob, Yeah, it's good do it for us
this week. Thank you, Ethan, Kevin. Great job is always
the most importantly Thank you to you. Without you, there
is Noah's It's Kettle, a Casey Show, Tony Kat's coming
up next ninety three WIBC.
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