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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My friends, I have a shocking and sad announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
WHOA, what's that?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And it pains me to make this. Yeah, our governor
is an idiot?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you talking about Governor Mike bron from the bron
Beckwith administration?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That's right, Hey, before we get to the governor, I mean,
we'll just mention this very briefly.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
They know we spend a bunch time on it today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
But did you see that after months of us saying
that the Lieutenant Governor's office was under investigation by the
Marrion Kenny Prosecutor's office and a grand jury and then
being totally defiant on that, and Micah beck With denying
that that was happening, and then being very mean to
people who were saying the obvious, which is many people
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had given information to Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office for the
purposes of assumably it was going to go to this
said grand jury. That has now come out that there
is indeed a grand jury investigating along with the Marri
Kenny Prosecutor's offers the office of Micah Beckwith.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Did I did see that? Ultiple news sources are reporting that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And thus far it is now eleven oh six now
we noted this at ten o six. It manages to
be of integrity and taking the moral high horse, and
blah blah blah. Mike has not called me to apologize yet,
which would be the you know, are you expecting that
probably be the decent thing to do. It'd be the
moral thing to do if.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You wanted to go through the three step process. Here's
all I do know, mistake, apologize, take corrective action.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Now you tell me if any of this sounds unreasonable, Casey,
and then we'll get to the governor being an idiot.
By the way, its Kennelly Casey Show. Welcome to our program,
but this is basically what we do every hour. This
is not new for us. If you're new to the program,
all you would have to do is call and say, Rob,
you and Casey were absolutely correct that there is a
grand jury investigating my office. I'm sorry forever doubting you.
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I'm sorry for questioning the integrity of you or anyone
who said this was going on. You guys were absolutely right.
I stand by that we didn't do anything wrong. I
welcome this investigation. I don't think they'll find anything. Sorry
for or doubting you or having anybody else value.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, does that seem unreasonable?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
No, but you're not going to get that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
He's a man of integrity.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You're not going to get that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Wouldn't that be the integrity driven thing to do? Since
we all know the little games that he has played
with people about me, about us, mostly about me, but
about us, the way he's tried to vilify me to people.
Maybe he will do a segment on that coming up sooner.
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The things Micah beckw Withitt has said to people who
he thinks are on his side. Maybe that'll be a
fun segment will do coming up and talk all about it,
the things Micah beck with has said to people who
And here's the other crazy thing about Micah making those
ridiculously bold statements denying about the grand.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Jury and what was going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
He has no idea who's given information to the Marion
County Prosecutor's office, no idea, And yet he's sat there
looking like a complete dumb ass, over and over and
over again, denying that this thing was going on.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And it shows you what.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
A habitual, stone cold liar the guy is. If he's
willing to do that when he knew it was going on,
he absolutely knew he was going on. So maybe coming
up in the future we'll talk about things. Micah Beck
with this said about meet other people.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, you had Representative Craig Haggard go on the record
and confirm that he had met with the Mary County prosecutors.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And again it's ridiculous because an investigation doesn't mean an indictment.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Correct, and an indictment does not mean charge.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And if he had come out and said that, look,
we have ripped him over and over and over again
because of the line. If he had come out and
said that and said, hey, they're looking into my office.
I know what's going on. I welcome it. They ain't
gonna find nothing, have at it. How can I assist you?
Then I'd have said, cool, we're done here, get back
to us when you're done with your investigation. But instead,
as he does with almost everything, he does, the half truce,
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the just flat out lies, the deception, the manipulation, the
villainizing of anybody who calls him out.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, like remember the because a lot of the
stems out of the AI porn.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now I think it's a much bigger than that now,
but this, a lot of this is related apparently according
to these documents that the Star has and others, that
they were looking into this AI porn thing. Remember how
he comes out and emphatically goes, we investigated and we
didn't find anything. And the logical person goes, dude, that
was a day ago. What did you do on a weekend?
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Who'd you call in? Crickets? Right, he'd And then he
finally had to fess up. We didn't do any sort
of forensic investigation. We didn't call any experts in, we
didn't bring the state police in, we didn't have anybody
hand over their phones. We didn't do any of that.
So he just sat his boys down, was like, hey,
did you do this? Oh no, okay, cool, we're done here.
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That It's always just a spec of truth with him. Yeah, okay,
he probably did ask him, did you do it? No
problem is according to Aaron Sheridan, who was on this program,
who was one of the whistleblowers on the AI porn allegations,
was that the people were allegedly viewing it said Micah
knew about it, and she was very specific about that.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Was she not?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So My point is with all of this, it's never
the thing, it's the lying and I take all of
this very personal because at one point I considered Mica
to be one of my best friends. And I went
out on a limb for this guy and a bunch
of people who didn't want to vote for him, who
believed they saw that he was a skeazy, rotten dude,
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And for some reason I bought it hook line and
zinger and said, no, he's going to be a fighter
for us. He's going to stand up for us, He's.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Going to go back. Yeah, And I so like, I
look back at this.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know that we talking about the TV show American Greed,
and I love that show. And when they interview these
people who are victims of these financial frauds, you know,
one of the things they talk about is how compelling
the person doing the swindling was right, And it is
exactly while it's not a financial fraud or financial crime
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with me and Micah, it's exactly what these people do.
On a lot of these American Greed episodes. They want something,
in this case, it's money. They're incredibly compelling in their believability,
the earnest nature in which they profess, and in the
beginning it all goes well. A lot of times people
are still getting returns because they're getting in from other people,
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and so you're none the wiser to it. And then
what you will see often is once the person becomes
wise to the scheme that you usually these guys go down.
Somebody finally figures it out right, somebody's like, this doesn't
make sense, and then they start looking into it, and
they'll call and they'll question about it, right. And then
once they start calling in questioning, they'll try to they'll
try to schmooze it over right, they'll try to get
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you to think everything's fine. But once they can't suck
any more blood out of you or take any more
money from you, they just disappear. And in the case
of Micah, that's what he did with me. He used
me until he got what he wanted from me, which
is a pat the public office, which, let's face it,
and I got to own this. He would not be
the Lieutenant governor right now if it were not for me.
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He would not have gotten that through that convention, if
it weren't for us. And I did it because they
so badly wanted to fix property taxes in this state
for millions of people that are in danger of losing
their homes potentially.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, you wanted somebody to hold people accountable and he
said he would do that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, And he told me over and over again publicly privately,
I want this brother. I want to be the guy
that's going to come in there on a whole bunch
of things and bring the smoke for the people.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now in Hindza.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It wouldn't matter anyway, because whether Micah was in there
or Julie Maguire was in there, the same stuff was
going to happen. Like all these people like this is
your fault. No, it's not my fault. First of all,
no one had a gun to your head and force
you to vote for anybody. You do that to your
own volition. But it wouldn't go to be different. Ron
was going to be the Governor's going to happen. But
I take all of this. It hurts me deeply because
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I never vouch for anybody because I think they're all
crooks and con men. And this is the one guy
that I believed because of you know, what I had
seen or what he had said to me for years,
And he's the biggest piece of trash of them all.
He's got in there and done absolutely nothing. He tried
very briefly on property taxes. Then he just quit after
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Braun made his choice. And what's he done since then?
He's just a traveling road show to the pizza Kings,
did the candy stores, jumping out of airplanes. He's a
total fraud. He's a total con man. He's an habitual.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Liar's having a bad week.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, good, ohb He has a whole bunch more of them,
because what he is doing is screwing the people of
the state.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There are numerous people who have been caught in this.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Look, I just saw this a little bit of humility
in the process, right, or got taught a little humility
out of this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
A little crush.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm more than willing to do it because people know,
and I did it when I figured it out. People
know I'm here fighting for them every day. It made
a mistake back the wrong guy, happens. My heart was
in the right place. But there's a lot of people
that are in this Mico web of deception and lies.
And I can't say that bs that have been harmed financially,
they've had to get legal representation because they not because
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they're involved in it. But because they have given information,
they've they've done the right thing. They've stepped up for
their state, they've stepped up for their community. They've had
to pay out of their own pocket. He knows all
this is going on. He knows the suffering that these people,
some of them who have tried to help him to
the end of the earth. All they tried to do
was go in there and make his life better. And
because he's such a rotten, miserable piece of garbage and
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surrounded himself with people who are same, he has ruined
these people's existence. And yet he stood there. He had
the audacity knowing all this was going on, knowing this
grand jury existed, knowing what the marrin Kenny prosecutors obviously
look it into.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And he lied.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He didn't flinch an inch that those people were suffering.
He didn't flinch an inch that he was causing those
people financial hardship. Nothing that happens to him could be
too bad because he's a liar and he's a fraud.
And look, I say this, I hope that they don't
find anything. I hope that in terms of legality and
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the law, that everything that office did was above board,
but it doesn't change whether they find something legal, legally
wrong or not. Who that guy is, who he's harmed,
the damage he's done, and he just keeps to keep
living his best life.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well everybody else.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's the equivalent of he took a dump in the
middle of somebody's house and said, somebody better pick that up.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, we have to remind ever to what an idiot
the governor as we do that next segment.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
We can do that next.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
We have to remind everybody at this point everything's allegations
and the grand jury may not a diet and even
if they do indict, they may not charge. So this
will be as we remind our listeners all the time.
Things like this, they take time.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
But you can bank on the lies will continue. For
Micah beckwith you're.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Listening to the Kendall and Casey Show, it is ninety
three wibc.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Oh from one habitual liar to another.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Mike Braun's lips were moving again, and that means he
was on all likelihood not telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So there's this group Foundation of Government Accountability and they
sat down with Governor Mike Braun from the Braun beckwith Administration, Well,
what's the group. It is foundation for government accountability.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Why would they be sitting now with Braun?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
They were asking him some questions. He said, the founders
would be completely dismayed by the fact that we're willing
to borrow money from our kids and grandkids. In Indiana,
we believe in balance budgets. Uh huh, fiscal responsibility and
building a state government that's innovative, lean and entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, So go back to the just the last sentence there, whatever,
that would be what we believe.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Ye believe in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Balance budgets huh, because it's the law. You have to
balance the budget.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now, fiscal responsibility, and building a state government that's innovative, lean,
and entrepreneurial.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Okay. Well, first of all, again.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
He's either a habitual liar or totally clueless on his
job because he's legally obligated to balance his budget. He
can't print money. So either he doesn't know that or
he's lying. I'll go with the ladder. I think he
does know that. What was the thing about fiscal responsibility?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So he just raised taxes by one billion dollars to
balance his budget because he couldn't pay his bills, so
he took him billion dollars from you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So is that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Fiscal responsibility that, hey, we couldn't pay the bills. Now
keep in mind IDIA can't pay its bills because they
blew down their surplus because they didn't want you to
get your money back. So that coupled with wanting you
to think that they could shut down society and you
wouldn't feel any ramifications for that. They threw money like
it like it was going out of style. They spent
billions of dollars which could have been used to help
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in this moment. The wouldn't have to raise tax. Of course,
they could just cut the government. This guy is just a.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to hear him, let's hear him.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, do I want to hear him? Or will I
hear him?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You'll hear him, Kevin roll It.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's a pleasure to serve hoosiers. I think the question
I got asked most because of what they saw me
do as a senator? Why would you leave states that
are run well are going to survive regardless of what
happens in DC. Businesses households will too. I go back
to what the founders intended and it was not to
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have a country run by career politicians, but movers and
shakers that made it in the real world. I'm just
glad in at a level where i think it's going
to be most impactful.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He said that he didn't think the founders wanted a
country that was governed by career politicians.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Well, he's a career politician.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Here you go.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
He went from school board.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
See this is the BS right, because the guy wears
a blue shirt and he had a business at one point.
He wants you to think he's one of them, and
the guy is. The guy went from school board to
state House to senator. He bought a Senate seat and
now he used that to become the governor. He's a
career what do you call that? Like, it's exactly what
all these other people do. And I'm so sick about
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hearing about his business. There's no way he ran his
business the way he ran the state of Indiana. Our
state is a dumpster fire under this guy. I mean
it's a disaster. Like he has managed in nine months
to piss everyone off, Like everyone is pissed off. The
guy's on the right where we are pissed off. People
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on the left pissed, like he has managed to make
everyone anger.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
He's so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
He has managed to bring Rob Kendall and socialist Jesse
Brown together in terms of like, this guy is a disaster.
Just I weep for our state. But you know, it's
just like with Holcombe. Yeah they're bad, but they're just
a symptom of the disease. Ultimately, in Indiana, the legislatures
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in charge. The governor can't do anything without the consent
of the legislature. So all these things that are happening
are the are the will of the General Assembly. So
the Republicans are real the real evil wizard behind the
curtain on all of this, and the General Assembly.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Because they craft all the policies.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's about a three minute long video.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh change, it's please don't.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's nicely done. They've got some drone shots of the
State House and downtown Indian out.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But does anybody ask him, Hey, moron, how can you
say that you're fiscally responsible when you just raise taxes
by a billion dollars? How can you how can you
possibly brag about balancing your I mean, where was the
follow up? But sir, you're required to balance your budget.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I want to play one more clip for you, Number eleven, Kevin,
I ran.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
As being the most accessible governor we're ever going to
have in entrepreneurial So I'm inviting input. Most of the
great ideas I had running a business would not have
been from a consultant. It would have been from my customers,
my suppliers.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
My employees. And if you.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Actually get them involved, they're going to tell you what
to fix.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Okay, let's think about that. He says he got his
customers involved. Now, when you're the governor, who are your
customers taxpayers?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, what have the taxpayers asked the governor to take
care of?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Property taxes?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Utility bills?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Anything else?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Gues taxes? Yeah, yeah, IDC long.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, longlist is another got to stand by the government
from Yeah. Well, and don't you love like not to
make this about us, But we're the perfect example of
what a gumbag Braun is. So think about how he
lied to me into us for months, almost a year, saying,
just like his little dueeb assistant beck with, Hey, I'm
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fired up about property taxes. I want this. I'm gonna
get in there, I'm gonna fight you. Just stay with
me and we'll get this done together. And then as
soon as that failed, and I had the audacity to
point out, hey, this guy lied. I was having conversations
with those people all the time. In fact, the last
person he talked to before he waltzed out and announced that
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horrible deal on property taxes was me. The last voice
he heard in his ear was me begging him not
to do that at the state party headquarters. I think
I figured out why they made me meet him at
state Party. I think if you meet in the governor's office,
it's public subject to a public records request.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Oh not that he's a big deal. Like I told
people I was there, it's not like it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I think that's why they do the meetings over there,
because that's not subject. I'm not saying like with me,
but I think that's why they do them.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Because apparently, well, never mind, I'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Maybe he just didn't want people to see you walking
into his office.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, but my point is the last voice in his
ear was me saying, sir, please don't do this. This
is going to be a disaster for you. And that
was what I believe. He was just not even getting
bad advice. Now I know he's just.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
A oh man, almost did it again. He's just a
lazy sack of garbage.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The showcase is some self control.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well, I'm doing very well today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You admit you thought there was gonna be at least
one dump on today's show and there hasn't been anything.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh, there's been.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But what do you do? He just cut off contact.
He'll come on Tony Show, He's going on Hammer Nigel
this afternoon. Who'd he cut off contact with?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah? Me?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah? Well, and why do you do that?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because we're going to roast him and hold him accountable
for lying to the people, and he doesn't want that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He doesn't want input from the people.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why do you start sucking up to that little group
of I used to think they were naive, but now
I think they're totally in on it with him, that
group of conservatives, because he and why were we suddenly
cut out of it? Because he knew if he went
to those meetings and he was pedaling his b we
would call him out on it. He doesn't want that.
He wants people that are gonna smooch his butt cheeks and.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Go, oh, it was so great to be at the
Governor's manson He listened to us. He really cares.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's interesting because he's eventually gonna have to make a
decision who he wants to be beholden to the taxpayers,
his base, the White House, the Legislature.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, but I think he's made the choice, which is
he's incapable of making a choice. He tries to be
all things to all people. I come back to his
behavior on January sixth, Mike Brawn was one of the
loudest voices in the room, screaming about the election irregularities
and we need to not certify the election and we
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need to know.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't know if he used the.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Term fight fight, fight back, then maybe that was just
a lie for us. But what he do as soon
as those people got in the Capitol, he just turned
tail and ran. Wait a second, if people are misbehaving,
deal with them. But if you genuinely believe there's this
mass fraud or irregularities in the election, what would that
those people being in the Capitol have to do with
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you just going.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I didn't mean it, say it bye.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's who Braun is and it's why, and he deserves it,
and the greatest thing for our state, the greatest thing
for all of us would be if Rod Brain I hate,
I hate that I have to cheer or in any
way support Rod Bray. But if the pro tim of
the Senate on November three walks in there and gives
a big shaky John McCain thums down and pulls the
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plug on this redistricting, and he tells Rod tells Rod
Bray tells Mike Braun in no uncertain terms, I am
the captain of this ship. You are my you know what,
and I'm in charge here and we done airby go home.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, I won't get that lucky though.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You're listening to Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well, in know case government, it's a great grift if you.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Can sink your fangs into it, and you got to
give credit. Look, this is the thing I found when
I was, for a very brief time in my life
involved in the government is and one of the things
that I was appalled by and had to get out
of there was these people who dedicate their lives to.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
The grift like they are there.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
These are people who couldn't accomplish anything in their real existence,
and yet they have figured out that if they can
worm their way into the government. They are set and
on gravy trains central and no matter how bad they
actually are at the government, or how many times they
get told to get lost or whatever, they will not
give it up. See our secretary of State. Let's review
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his track record. Right, He was dismissed paperwork shows by
the Secretary of State's office when he worked there. He
somehow managed to come back, but then ran out of
there before he was about to be dismissed again paperwork Shows.
Then went to work for Pence. Nobody really knows what
he did for Pens then decided he was going to
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run for Secretary of State. Then, when the person who
he thought wasn't gonna run for reelection decided was gonna
run for reelection instead of man and up and saying
I want this office, I'm a fight for it, he
cowardly quit, decided to run for Congress, did horrible in
a run for Congress. That's when he voted in a
county different where he's taking his homestead credit, and then
decided to run for Secretary of State again.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That is some dedication to the grift, my friend, but
it paid off for him.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Look at the life diego Morales lives because he would
not give up on the grift. Look at this woman
in northern Indiana. Jennifer Ruth Green runs for Congress. Bad
candidate loses, somehow is able to worm her way into
the Brawn administration and for her defeat. When she ran
for Congress, her reward for being rejected by the voters was,
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here's a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a
year job. Despite being given life's lottery, she couldn't just
sit there and be thankful. She had to play fast
and loose with the rules. According to the Inspector General's
investigation and the Braun administrations own what was that improvement
plan or whatever that they pip? Oh, yeah, the pip, Yes,
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the PIP. From the moment she got there, she started
playing fast and loose with the rules. She gets bounced
out of the Braun administration. And now instead of just
going you know what, I've done enough damage to the taxpayers.
I'm just going to go get a real job somewhere. Now,
Jennifer Ruth Green has sprinted out and announced she's running
for Congress again.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, the PIP was the result because of well what
they're saying were improper political activities, misuse of state property,
ghost employment, also retaliation, and you're right. She was the
former Indiana Secretary of Public Safety, but she has since
launched her campaign for Indiana's first congressional district. She did
that the day after Governor Mike Braun from the Braun
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beck With administration called a special legislative session to redraw
the maps. Okay, let's listen to just a smidgeon of
her campaign ad after nearly.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Defeating far left Congressman Frank Mrvan Is twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I'm ready to finish the mission.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The stakes couldn't be hired.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
When we fire Frank Mrvan and take back northwest Indiana
for the first time since nineteen twenty eight. Republicans will
keep the House and we'll stop radical Democrats from impeaching
President Trump in Congress.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
All stand shoulder and the shoulder with our.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
President to rebuild American manufacturing for middle class jobs, fight
for bigger paychecks at lower prices, Support our farmers and
rural communities, Secure the border and deport violent illegal immigrants.
Back the blue and defend the right to life and
the Secondment.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
This isn't about Camall Pugh.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Okay, so let's clear by a couple of things. She's
what she says. She nearly beat him after nearly defeating Okay,
so she lost by five and a half points. She
lost by more than twelve thousand votes. It wasn't closed.
I think the guy who ran the last time this
past election was basically the same thing. Okay, that's the
first part of it. But think about this. So according
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to which source was it? To make sure I get
this right, this is Fox fifty nine. It was the
Inspector General has accused Green, according to Fox, viling the
Indiana Code of Ethics ten times in the couple of
months that she was in that office. And what does
she do? She just like these people there is like
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there is serious. I don't know what the diagnosis would be,
but the behavior. Are you sensing the pattern? Whether it's
Braun who just lies all the time and never thinks
to think about it, or Micah who lies all the
time or never thinks to think about it, or this woman, right,
a normal person with any decency or humility would be
mortified by their behavior. They'd be like, man, I really
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had a great opportunity and I blew it and I
let the taxpayers down, and I need to like kind
of go think about this for a while and then
figure out if there's a way I can make this
right with people. She just sprints to the next grift
and she's not apologetic at all. There's no apology in
that video. There's no hey man, I made a mistake,
I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
None of that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
She just acts like it just didn't happen. And you
noticed with Micah they still won't come off the spokesman
acting like, we don't know anything about this.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
There's documentations happening, Oh, grand juries are sealed. We don't
know anything about this, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is what these people do. They should not be
allowed to roam out in decent society. They cause immense
harm to the public at large, and there is something
seriously mentally wrong with these people and they're disconnect from
how the rest of decent society behaves.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
She called the allegations baseless and said that she would
address evil with evil, and she said she's running to
support Donald Trump, and she also emphasized the importance of Republicans.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Why Casey, if the allegations were baseless, why did she
sign the plan?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Don't know let's talk about the signs.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh yes, okay, So this article came out that said
this article came out and said that the that the
city of Fort Wayne is about to spend Let's see
who did this, by the way, w f FT I
think is the news l Yes, WFFT TV that the
City of Fort Wayne. City of Fort Wayne is about
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to spend eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars on welcome
signs for I sixty nine and the US twenty four interchange.
Eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. What you don't know?
You're in Fort Wayne?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Used to tell you what.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do the signs say? Do they say Indiana for the Bowl?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Wait? Those are the signs that are being taken down statewide.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So there's We were led to believe that if you've
got property tax relief, that the police and fire departments
would disappear.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
It's all over.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know, you'd be in one kids would be in
all be in one room schoolhouses. But this city has
eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to spend on signage
for an interchange.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Wasn't it wasn't ally county schools that were doing a REFERENDU.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, they got a referendum going on right now. Yeah, yeah,
them and Avon. Okay, By the way, I think they
may have made a big mistake because I saw in
the Amon County chatterboard. I don't know if this is
true or not, but people are really dumb sometimes this
could be true. They said I was going to vote
against the referendum, and then you guys sent Beck without
the knock on doors, and I'll vote.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
For Oh yeah, that happened. That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I really don't know what the referendum past, but that would
be funny if he tanked the referendum for the no people.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Also the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars out of sign.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm also I'm also thinking about how yesterday Governor Braun
he announced that Indiana is going to return to the
Crossroads of America branding and they're gonna what They're going
to replace the current Indiana for the bold.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Motto that's on the state sign.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sure, and it's like, you know, Governor Holcombe took down
the Crossroads of America signs and put up the Indiana
for the Bold signs, And it's almost like if you
if you see that branch, by the way, which is
i DC's motto. I DC's motto, Indiana for the bull.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, it should be for the rich, right like it
should say for the rich, because in that what they
are there for the rich.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So just cross out bold and put riches.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
If you just put that in people's face enough, they'll
they'll start to believe it. And we just want you
to see the I ed C motto over and over again.
You come into the state, and it might as well
have just said, welcome to ie ed C, not welcome
to Indiana, not welcome to the Crossroads of America, welcome
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to the.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I ed C.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Because that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And now they're gonna take all those down and they're
gonna start integrating the Crossroads of America back, which I'm
happy with, but it's just more expense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Because Casey, if you're a multi billion dollar company, are
you picking what state you're going to based on what
the street sign says?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sign says Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
We were kind of on the fence, but that for
the bowls we were out.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But once the Crossroads of America sold, it's not the
money or the tax and centers of the abatements that
didn't was the sign?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
All right, Abduel's with us. Next, well, we'll talk about
by the latest going on with our lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It's Kenna lu Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
So the Lieutenant governor is a deed under investigation or
thought as it leased by the grand jury. Let's go
to one of the guys who was one of the
first people to say that was taking place.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I hate to say these words, but you were right,
Abdul keeps you. Baz joins us now in our operator
of Indie Politics dot Org A Duel.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Hello.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
You know, as much as I like being right, I
hate being right about the stuff i'm right about because
using the things i'm right about are things are really
bad and really not good. And this is not going
to be good. And I'm just waiting for the one
person say what did the Lieutenant governor know and when
did he know it?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And you know we talked about this lot that of
course the program today. The thing they should be infuriating
to people is not whether Lieutenant Governor's or his office
or under investigation by the Mary Kenny Prosecutor's office the
Grand jury.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
They are We've known that for months.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's this is another example of blatantly dishonest and deceitful
behavior because everybody knew this was taking place, and yet
he was so adamant and so forceful when he would
get asked about it.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
All I had to say was, I can't comment on
any grandeury investigation. Or I can say is if we're
fully coopery with law enforcement, we look forward to a
thin type of investigation.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
The clearer name.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
We always believed in the attained the high moral ethical
standards of government, and we'll just see where it goes.
But we did not do anything wrong and we stand
by ball. That's all you got to say in that's
all you gotta do. But that's not Michaeh's style. Micha
is combative, and Michael loves a television camera, and Michael
loves an audience that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I can respect.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
However, if you're gonna love television audience, to make sure
that television loves you for the right reason.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And again, if you're just new to the program today
and haven't been paying attendment hiding under a rock somewhere
the office of the Lieutenant Governor Micah beckwith according to
Indie Star. Numerous other outlets are in Central Indiana. There
is a grand jury looking into we believe we know
what it is, exactly what we've been saying it is
for months now, which is the AI porn stuff, ghost employment.
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And again, a grand jury investigation doesn't mean an indictment.
An indictment doesn't mean a conviction. We've never said any
of that. We simply said this is going on. We
know multiple people who have given information to the Marrion
Kenny Prosecutor's office, and they were so forceful against that.
You say, you look so deceitful and dishonest by not
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acknowledging the obvious.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
But I get some time this weekend. I had to
go through our WBC archives and go back and find
that Friday, that the that Aaron Sheridan came and the
story broke on.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
We both did it.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Aaron Sheridan was a member of Micah's office who alleges
she was a senior advisor who alleges that she viewed
artificial intelligence pornography in the Lieutenant Governor's office. She alleged
two individuals who were working as a part of Micah's
office were viewing it and sharing it. She came on
our program, shared that story in great deal detail, also
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said that that they they these two individuals, said Michaeh
was aware that the thing existed, and Aaron claims she
told Sherry Ellis Micah beckw With's chief of staff about
this after it happened, and she did nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
So I don't wanted to set up who that is.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And so she came on this program, told that story
in great detail, then one on with You with Indie
Politics and told.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
The story as well, exactly. And that's where things about
the ghost employment came up out people you know, not
coming into work or filled out a fake time cards,
the whole nine yards. And this is all what the
grand jury is looking at right now. It's not saying
anybody broke the law, but this is what the grand
jury is looking at. And beck With went on Hammer
nine afternoon saying, Aaron's crazy. She's just going to employee
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Robin Robin Abdullah blah blah. No one reads, no one
listens to them. I don't read their work, blah blah blah.
Well how you like me?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Now?
Speaker 8 (34:30):
I believe it's I believe it's a country song. I
got actually quite a country song.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This is like basic shoe leather work to figure out
this stuff was going on. But it comes back to
a reoccurring theme with Micah where it's either at best
deceptive behavior, at worst blatant dishonesty, And it goes back
to things like how did you end up at Game
three with a of the NBA Finals with the high
profile known felon He can't tell a coherent, consistent story,
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the stuff with the call that we caught him on
numerous lies on you come back to even this story
where he tries to claim he didn't know who Lo
Bianco was the guy who broke the story Tom Lobianca, Well,
Labianka spent a whole day with him before this story
ever broke. And then you know, he tries to claim, well,
I heard about the AI porn video from Lo Bianco,
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and Lobianca is like, no, no, no, Michael told me, but
heard about it from somebodying the treasurer's office. Like all
of these things, the stories just don't add up, and
you're saying, these are kind of easy things to remember,
and if you're not being consistent or accurate on those,
what else are you being inconsistent and inaccurate on you.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Know, what's the difference between Michael back with Hi dacon
Rales About two inches and some hair. That's about it, all.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Right, So what do you think is going to happen
now with this?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Because again I've said it from the beginning, does not
mean anybody's getting indicted, does not mean anybody's getting convicted.
But what do you think the next step is now?
Because this grand jury has on multiple occasions engaged as
a part of this investigation.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Here's what I see happening next. It is November three,
and then the law makers are back the Senate convenes.
My get back was at the top of the at
the gavel called in the Senate. Just the look I
will be there because the look on everybody's face, their
body language will tell me everything that I need to know,
all right. And I can see like, okay, I can
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see a conversation. I'm like, we got to get rid
of this guy.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But what they could do until he's con you know,
in the save India have to be convicted of a
felony in order to be removed from office.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
What can they actually do with the guy? I'm doing
some research on that this week. Okay, very good, real quick,
you mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So speaking of Abdul as our guests, speaking of special
session that's going down supposed to be going down Monday,
we got into this on State House happenings.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It seems like the governor has forced Rod Bray's hand.
It feels like and I'm loaded to ever defend Rod Bray,
but it seems like the pro ten of the Senate,
the leader of the Senate, it seems like he tried
to politely tell the governor on numerous occasions, don't do this, Yes,
don't do it. You don't have the votes. Don't make
us do this. You're not gonna like how it goes.
The governor has now basically forced his hand. Will Rod
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Bray be willing to stand up to the governor and
torpedo this thing?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Or is he gonna fold? I don't think.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
I don't think rodel fold because I Rod folds and
it's gonna be that's gonna look even worse for him
and as a Senate President pro tem. But what I
do think it's going to happen is Bray's gonna tell
the members vote your conscience, not gonna strong arm anybody
vote your conscience. He will tell them, vot your conscience
and be mindful of what your constituents want, and what
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are your constituents prime what are your constituents priorities right now?
What do you want to do next session? And I
also remember too, we're gonna have this guy here for
the next three years and change if he lasts out
law because.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
They really are. He Braun really is.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
And it's kind of funny to say this, but he's
trying to almost bully the Senate into doing what he wants.
It basically appears that he's saying, all right, well, you
may say you don't have the votes, but let's see
how you do when that board goes you know, green
and red, it's time to pick a lever, right, because
that's how they vote. Red's are nose and greens or yes,
and basically saying, well, we'll see if you got the
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stones to do it when everybody's looking now, guys like me,
I would love to do it, and I'd love to
get there and give a big John McCain shaky thumbs down.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
In front of everyone. But you may have a point, Well,
these guys.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Wilt, I don't I don't think they'll wilt and and
I'll do and I'll do fetish to Governor Braun. I
will argue that this is not the work of Governor Braun.
Oh no, it's so it's Trump, you know, it's it's
not Trump either. It's Trump, but it's also another individual involved,
see it the cos.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oho, the chief of staff. Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
So basically, based some promises with the Trump people, we
can get this done, and now they're stuck between a
rock and a hard play.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So basically, because we talked about this before as we
wrap up this interview here, but if he's going to
do it, should have done it back in August. He's
just that we're coming in, we're gonna vote it up,
vote it down. It'll be what it'll be. And we're
done here and we're moving on. If he was gonna
do it, but now he's strung it out for so long,
he's given the other side time to mobilize. There's literally
fierce opposition to this, and he's he being broad is
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in the worst of all worlds with this.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
It it's it's there's it's a no, it's a no
win situation either either your damned if you do.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
If you do it, then you're damn if you don't.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
And this this is what happens when you when you
tie yourself to that Trump train and trying to please
know the big Orange guy. Okay, that's fine, but you
gotta remember you still got your constituents here who have
a lot of other concerning issues like energy inflation.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, and Rod Bray don't care about Donald Trump because
Rod Bray don't got to deal with Donald Trump. Rod
Bray's got to worry about keeping a super majority so
that he can go kick his feet up at the
end of the day and go I can do whatever
I want to do and ain't nobody can stop me.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So I think it's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So if you had to say, right now, will there
be a vote, will Rod Bray let it come to
a vote?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
And will it pass? Vote? Yes? Pass? No? Okay, I
say easily by ten votes. Oh you don't think it'll
be close? No? All right, find him over at Indie
Politics dot Org. I do to catch your boss. Thank you,
thank you, and that is gonna do it for us today.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Thank you, Casey, great job as always, and same to
Kevin most importantly, thank you to you, the listener. Without you,
there is no US stick around Tony Katz. Coming up next,
Kennelly Casey Show ninety three WIBC
My friends, I have a shocking and sad announcement.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
WHOA, what's that?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And it pains me to make this. Yeah, our governor
is an idiot?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you talking about Governor Mike bron from the bron
Beckwith administration?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That's right, Hey, before we get to the governor, I mean,
we'll just mention this very briefly.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
They know we spend a bunch time on it today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
But did you see that after months of us saying
that the Lieutenant Governor's office was under investigation by the
Marrion Kenny Prosecutor's office and a grand jury and then
being totally defiant on that, and Micah beck With denying
that that was happening, and then being very mean to
people who were saying the obvious, which is many people
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had given information to Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office for the
purposes of assumably it was going to go to this
said grand jury. That has now come out that there
is indeed a grand jury investigating along with the Marri
Kenny Prosecutor's offers the office of Micah Beckwith.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Did I did see that? Ultiple news sources are reporting that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And thus far it is now eleven oh six now
we noted this at ten o six. It manages to
be of integrity and taking the moral high horse, and
blah blah blah. Mike has not called me to apologize yet,
which would be the you know, are you expecting that
probably be the decent thing to do. It'd be the
moral thing to do if.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You wanted to go through the three step process. Here's
all I do know, mistake, apologize, take corrective action.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Now you tell me if any of this sounds unreasonable, Casey,
and then we'll get to the governor being an idiot.
By the way, its Kennelly Casey Show. Welcome to our program,
but this is basically what we do every hour. This
is not new for us. If you're new to the program,
all you would have to do is call and say, Rob,
you and Casey were absolutely correct that there is a
grand jury investigating my office. I'm sorry forever doubting you.
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I'm sorry for questioning the integrity of you or anyone
who said this was going on. You guys were absolutely right.
I stand by that we didn't do anything wrong. I
welcome this investigation. I don't think they'll find anything. Sorry
for or doubting you or having anybody else value.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, does that seem unreasonable?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
No, but you're not going to get that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
He's a man of integrity.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You're not going to get that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Wouldn't that be the integrity driven thing to do? Since
we all know the little games that he has played
with people about me, about us, mostly about me, but
about us, the way he's tried to vilify me to people.
Maybe he will do a segment on that coming up sooner.
(02:31):
The things Micah beckw Withitt has said to people who
he thinks are on his side. Maybe that'll be a
fun segment will do coming up and talk all about it,
the things Micah beck with has said to people who
And here's the other crazy thing about Micah making those
ridiculously bold statements denying about the grand.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Jury and what was going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
He has no idea who's given information to the Marion
County Prosecutor's office, no idea, And yet he's sat there
looking like a complete dumb ass, over and over and
over again, denying that this thing was going on.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And it shows you what.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
A habitual, stone cold liar the guy is. If he's
willing to do that when he knew it was going on,
he absolutely knew he was going on. So maybe coming
up in the future we'll talk about things. Micah Beck
with this said about meet other people.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, you had Representative Craig Haggard go on the record
and confirm that he had met with the Mary County prosecutors.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And again it's ridiculous because an investigation doesn't mean an indictment.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Correct, and an indictment does not mean charge.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And if he had come out and said that, look,
we have ripped him over and over and over again
because of the line. If he had come out and
said that and said, hey, they're looking into my office.
I know what's going on. I welcome it. They ain't
gonna find nothing, have at it. How can I assist you?
Then I'd have said, cool, we're done here, get back
to us when you're done with your investigation. But instead,
as he does with almost everything, he does, the half truce,
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the just flat out lies, the deception, the manipulation, the
villainizing of anybody who calls him out.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, like remember the because a lot of the
stems out of the AI porn.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now I think it's a much bigger than that now,
but this, a lot of this is related apparently according
to these documents that the Star has and others, that
they were looking into this AI porn thing. Remember how
he comes out and emphatically goes, we investigated and we
didn't find anything. And the logical person goes, dude, that
was a day ago. What did you do on a weekend?
(04:28):
Who'd you call in? Crickets? Right, he'd And then he
finally had to fess up. We didn't do any sort
of forensic investigation. We didn't call any experts in, we
didn't bring the state police in, we didn't have anybody
hand over their phones. We didn't do any of that.
So he just sat his boys down, was like, hey,
did you do this? Oh no, okay, cool, we're done here.
(04:49):
That It's always just a spec of truth with him. Yeah, okay,
he probably did ask him, did you do it? No
problem is according to Aaron Sheridan, who was on this program,
who was one of the whistleblowers on the AI porn allegations,
was that the people were allegedly viewing it said Micah
knew about it, and she was very specific about that.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Was she not?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So My point is with all of this, it's never
the thing, it's the lying and I take all of
this very personal because at one point I considered Mica
to be one of my best friends. And I went
out on a limb for this guy and a bunch
of people who didn't want to vote for him, who
believed they saw that he was a skeazy, rotten dude,
(05:35):
And for some reason I bought it hook line and
zinger and said, no, he's going to be a fighter
for us. He's going to stand up for us, He's.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Going to go back. Yeah, And I so like, I
look back at this.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know that we talking about the TV show American Greed,
and I love that show. And when they interview these
people who are victims of these financial frauds, you know,
one of the things they talk about is how compelling
the person doing the swindling was right, And it is
exactly while it's not a financial fraud or financial crime
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with me and Micah, it's exactly what these people do.
On a lot of these American Greed episodes. They want something,
in this case, it's money. They're incredibly compelling in their believability,
the earnest nature in which they profess, and in the
beginning it all goes well. A lot of times people
are still getting returns because they're getting in from other people,
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and so you're none the wiser to it. And then
what you will see often is once the person becomes
wise to the scheme that you usually these guys go down.
Somebody finally figures it out right, somebody's like, this doesn't
make sense, and then they start looking into it, and
they'll call and they'll question about it, right. And then
once they start calling in questioning, they'll try to they'll
try to schmooze it over right, they'll try to get
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you to think everything's fine. But once they can't suck
any more blood out of you or take any more
money from you, they just disappear. And in the case
of Micah, that's what he did with me. He used
me until he got what he wanted from me, which
is a pat the public office, which, let's face it,
and I got to own this. He would not be
the Lieutenant governor right now if it were not for me.
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He would not have gotten that through that convention, if
it weren't for us. And I did it because they
so badly wanted to fix property taxes in this state
for millions of people that are in danger of losing
their homes potentially.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, you wanted somebody to hold people accountable and he
said he would do that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, And he told me over and over again publicly privately,
I want this brother. I want to be the guy
that's going to come in there on a whole bunch
of things and bring the smoke for the people.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now in Hindza.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It wouldn't matter anyway, because whether Micah was in there
or Julie Maguire was in there, the same stuff was
going to happen. Like all these people like this is
your fault. No, it's not my fault. First of all,
no one had a gun to your head and force
you to vote for anybody. You do that to your
own volition. But it wouldn't go to be different. Ron
was going to be the Governor's going to happen. But
I take all of this. It hurts me deeply because
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I never vouch for anybody because I think they're all
crooks and con men. And this is the one guy
that I believed because of you know, what I had
seen or what he had said to me for years,
And he's the biggest piece of trash of them all.
He's got in there and done absolutely nothing. He tried
very briefly on property taxes. Then he just quit after
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Braun made his choice. And what's he done since then?
He's just a traveling road show to the pizza Kings,
did the candy stores, jumping out of airplanes. He's a
total fraud. He's a total con man. He's an habitual.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Liar's having a bad week.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, good, ohb He has a whole bunch more of them,
because what he is doing is screwing the people of
the state.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There are numerous people who have been caught in this.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Look, I just saw this a little bit of humility
in the process, right, or got taught a little humility
out of this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
A little crush.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm more than willing to do it because people know,
and I did it when I figured it out. People
know I'm here fighting for them every day. It made
a mistake back the wrong guy, happens. My heart was
in the right place. But there's a lot of people
that are in this Mico web of deception and lies.
And I can't say that bs that have been harmed financially,
they've had to get legal representation because they not because
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they're involved in it. But because they have given information,
they've they've done the right thing. They've stepped up for
their state, they've stepped up for their community. They've had
to pay out of their own pocket. He knows all
this is going on. He knows the suffering that these people,
some of them who have tried to help him to
the end of the earth. All they tried to do
was go in there and make his life better. And
because he's such a rotten, miserable piece of garbage and
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surrounded himself with people who are same, he has ruined
these people's existence. And yet he stood there. He had
the audacity knowing all this was going on, knowing this
grand jury existed, knowing what the marrin Kenny prosecutors obviously
look it into.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And he lied.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He didn't flinch an inch that those people were suffering.
He didn't flinch an inch that he was causing those
people financial hardship. Nothing that happens to him could be
too bad because he's a liar and he's a fraud.
And look, I say this, I hope that they don't
find anything. I hope that in terms of legality and
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the law, that everything that office did was above board,
but it doesn't change whether they find something legal, legally
wrong or not. Who that guy is, who he's harmed,
the damage he's done, and he just keeps to keep
living his best life.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well everybody else.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's the equivalent of he took a dump in the
middle of somebody's house and said, somebody better pick that up.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, we have to remind ever to what an idiot
the governor as we do that next segment.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
We can do that next.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
We have to remind everybody at this point everything's allegations
and the grand jury may not a diet and even
if they do indict, they may not charge. So this
will be as we remind our listeners all the time.
Things like this, they take time.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
But you can bank on the lies will continue. For
Micah beckwith you're.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Listening to the Kendall and Casey Show, it is ninety
three wibc.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Oh from one habitual liar to another.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Mike Braun's lips were moving again, and that means he
was on all likelihood not telling the truth.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So there's this group Foundation of Government Accountability and they
sat down with Governor Mike Braun from the Braun beckwith Administration, Well,
what's the group. It is foundation for government accountability.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Why would they be sitting now with Braun?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
They were asking him some questions. He said, the founders
would be completely dismayed by the fact that we're willing
to borrow money from our kids and grandkids. In Indiana,
we believe in balance budgets. Uh huh, fiscal responsibility and
building a state government that's innovative, lean and entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Okay, So go back to the just the last sentence there, whatever,
that would be what we believe.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Ye believe in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Balance budgets huh, because it's the law. You have to
balance the budget.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now, fiscal responsibility, and building a state government that's innovative, lean,
and entrepreneurial.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Okay. Well, first of all, again.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
He's either a habitual liar or totally clueless on his
job because he's legally obligated to balance his budget. He
can't print money. So either he doesn't know that or
he's lying. I'll go with the ladder. I think he
does know that. What was the thing about fiscal responsibility?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So he just raised taxes by one billion dollars to
balance his budget because he couldn't pay his bills, so
he took him billion dollars from you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So is that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Fiscal responsibility that, hey, we couldn't pay the bills. Now
keep in mind IDIA can't pay its bills because they
blew down their surplus because they didn't want you to
get your money back. So that coupled with wanting you
to think that they could shut down society and you
wouldn't feel any ramifications for that. They threw money like
it like it was going out of style. They spent
billions of dollars which could have been used to help
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in this moment. The wouldn't have to raise tax. Of course,
they could just cut the government. This guy is just a.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to hear him, let's hear him.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, do I want to hear him? Or will I
hear him?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You'll hear him, Kevin roll It.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's a pleasure to serve hoosiers. I think the question
I got asked most because of what they saw me
do as a senator? Why would you leave states that
are run well are going to survive regardless of what
happens in DC. Businesses households will too. I go back
to what the founders intended and it was not to
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have a country run by career politicians, but movers and
shakers that made it in the real world. I'm just
glad in at a level where i think it's going
to be most impactful.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He said that he didn't think the founders wanted a
country that was governed by career politicians.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Well, he's a career politician.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Here you go.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
He went from school board.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
See this is the BS right, because the guy wears
a blue shirt and he had a business at one point.
He wants you to think he's one of them, and
the guy is. The guy went from school board to
state House to senator. He bought a Senate seat and
now he used that to become the governor. He's a
career what do you call that? Like, it's exactly what
all these other people do. And I'm so sick about
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hearing about his business. There's no way he ran his
business the way he ran the state of Indiana. Our
state is a dumpster fire under this guy. I mean
it's a disaster. Like he has managed in nine months
to piss everyone off, Like everyone is pissed off. The
guy's on the right where we are pissed off. People
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on the left pissed, like he has managed to make
everyone anger.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
He's so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
He has managed to bring Rob Kendall and socialist Jesse
Brown together in terms of like, this guy is a disaster.
Just I weep for our state. But you know, it's
just like with Holcombe. Yeah they're bad, but they're just
a symptom of the disease. Ultimately, in Indiana, the legislatures
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in charge. The governor can't do anything without the consent
of the legislature. So all these things that are happening
are the are the will of the General Assembly. So
the Republicans are real the real evil wizard behind the
curtain on all of this, and the General Assembly.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Because they craft all the policies.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's about a three minute long video.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh change, it's please don't.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's nicely done. They've got some drone shots of the
State House and downtown Indian out.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But does anybody ask him, Hey, moron, how can you
say that you're fiscally responsible when you just raise taxes
by a billion dollars? How can you how can you
possibly brag about balancing your I mean, where was the
follow up? But sir, you're required to balance your budget.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I want to play one more clip for you, Number eleven, Kevin,
I ran.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
As being the most accessible governor we're ever going to
have in entrepreneurial So I'm inviting input. Most of the
great ideas I had running a business would not have
been from a consultant. It would have been from my customers,
my suppliers.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
My employees. And if you.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Actually get them involved, they're going to tell you what
to fix.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Okay, let's think about that. He says he got his
customers involved. Now, when you're the governor, who are your
customers taxpayers?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, what have the taxpayers asked the governor to take
care of?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Property taxes?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Utility bills?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Anything else?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Gues taxes? Yeah, yeah, IDC long.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, longlist is another got to stand by the government
from Yeah. Well, and don't you love like not to
make this about us, But we're the perfect example of
what a gumbag Braun is. So think about how he
lied to me into us for months, almost a year, saying,
just like his little dueeb assistant beck with, Hey, I'm
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fired up about property taxes. I want this. I'm gonna
get in there, I'm gonna fight you. Just stay with
me and we'll get this done together. And then as
soon as that failed, and I had the audacity to
point out, hey, this guy lied. I was having conversations
with those people all the time. In fact, the last
person he talked to before he waltzed out and announced that
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horrible deal on property taxes was me. The last voice
he heard in his ear was me begging him not
to do that at the state party headquarters. I think
I figured out why they made me meet him at
state Party. I think if you meet in the governor's office,
it's public subject to a public records request.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Oh not that he's a big deal. Like I told
people I was there, it's not like it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I think that's why they do the meetings over there,
because that's not subject. I'm not saying like with me,
but I think that's why they do them.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Because apparently, well, never mind, I'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Maybe he just didn't want people to see you walking
into his office.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, but my point is the last voice in his
ear was me saying, sir, please don't do this. This
is going to be a disaster for you. And that
was what I believe. He was just not even getting
bad advice. Now I know he's just.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
A oh man, almost did it again. He's just a
lazy sack of garbage.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The showcase is some self control.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well, I'm doing very well today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You admit you thought there was gonna be at least
one dump on today's show and there hasn't been anything.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh, there's been.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But what do you do? He just cut off contact.
He'll come on Tony Show, He's going on Hammer Nigel
this afternoon. Who'd he cut off contact with?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah? Me?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah? Well, and why do you do that?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because we're going to roast him and hold him accountable
for lying to the people, and he doesn't want that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He doesn't want input from the people.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why do you start sucking up to that little group
of I used to think they were naive, but now
I think they're totally in on it with him, that
group of conservatives, because he and why were we suddenly
cut out of it? Because he knew if he went
to those meetings and he was pedaling his b we
would call him out on it. He doesn't want that.
He wants people that are gonna smooch his butt cheeks and.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Go, oh, it was so great to be at the
Governor's manson He listened to us. He really cares.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's interesting because he's eventually gonna have to make a
decision who he wants to be beholden to the taxpayers,
his base, the White House, the Legislature.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, but I think he's made the choice, which is
he's incapable of making a choice. He tries to be
all things to all people. I come back to his
behavior on January sixth, Mike Brawn was one of the
loudest voices in the room, screaming about the election irregularities
and we need to not certify the election and we
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need to know.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't know if he used the.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Term fight fight, fight back, then maybe that was just
a lie for us. But what he do as soon
as those people got in the Capitol, he just turned
tail and ran. Wait a second, if people are misbehaving,
deal with them. But if you genuinely believe there's this
mass fraud or irregularities in the election, what would that
those people being in the Capitol have to do with
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you just going.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I didn't mean it, say it bye.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's who Braun is and it's why, and he deserves it,
and the greatest thing for our state, the greatest thing
for all of us would be if Rod Brain I hate,
I hate that I have to cheer or in any
way support Rod Bray. But if the pro tim of
the Senate on November three walks in there and gives
a big shaky John McCain thums down and pulls the
(20:33):
plug on this redistricting, and he tells Rod tells Rod
Bray tells Mike Braun in no uncertain terms, I am
the captain of this ship. You are my you know what,
and I'm in charge here and we done airby go home.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, I won't get that lucky though.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You're listening to Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well, in know case government, it's a great grift if you.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Can sink your fangs into it, and you got to
give credit. Look, this is the thing I found when
I was, for a very brief time in my life
involved in the government is and one of the things
that I was appalled by and had to get out
of there was these people who dedicate their lives to.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
The grift like they are there.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
These are people who couldn't accomplish anything in their real existence,
and yet they have figured out that if they can
worm their way into the government. They are set and
on gravy trains central and no matter how bad they
actually are at the government, or how many times they
get told to get lost or whatever, they will not
give it up. See our secretary of State. Let's review
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his track record. Right, He was dismissed paperwork shows by
the Secretary of State's office when he worked there. He
somehow managed to come back, but then ran out of
there before he was about to be dismissed again paperwork Shows.
Then went to work for Pence. Nobody really knows what
he did for Pens then decided he was going to
(22:08):
run for Secretary of State. Then, when the person who
he thought wasn't gonna run for reelection decided was gonna
run for reelection instead of man and up and saying
I want this office, I'm a fight for it, he
cowardly quit, decided to run for Congress, did horrible in
a run for Congress. That's when he voted in a
county different where he's taking his homestead credit, and then
decided to run for Secretary of State again.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That is some dedication to the grift, my friend, but
it paid off for him.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Look at the life diego Morales lives because he would
not give up on the grift. Look at this woman
in northern Indiana. Jennifer Ruth Green runs for Congress. Bad
candidate loses, somehow is able to worm her way into
the Brawn administration and for her defeat. When she ran
for Congress, her reward for being rejected by the voters was,
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here's a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a
year job. Despite being given life's lottery, she couldn't just
sit there and be thankful. She had to play fast
and loose with the rules. According to the Inspector General's
investigation and the Braun administrations own what was that improvement
plan or whatever that they pip? Oh, yeah, the pip, Yes,
(23:16):
the PIP. From the moment she got there, she started
playing fast and loose with the rules. She gets bounced
out of the Braun administration. And now instead of just
going you know what, I've done enough damage to the taxpayers.
I'm just going to go get a real job somewhere. Now,
Jennifer Ruth Green has sprinted out and announced she's running
for Congress again.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, the PIP was the result because of well what
they're saying were improper political activities, misuse of state property,
ghost employment, also retaliation, and you're right. She was the
former Indiana Secretary of Public Safety, but she has since
launched her campaign for Indiana's first congressional district. She did
that the day after Governor Mike Braun from the Braun
(23:59):
beck With administration called a special legislative session to redraw
the maps. Okay, let's listen to just a smidgeon of
her campaign ad after nearly.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Defeating far left Congressman Frank Mrvan Is twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I'm ready to finish the mission.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The stakes couldn't be hired.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
When we fire Frank Mrvan and take back northwest Indiana
for the first time since nineteen twenty eight. Republicans will
keep the House and we'll stop radical Democrats from impeaching
President Trump in Congress.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
All stand shoulder and the shoulder with our.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
President to rebuild American manufacturing for middle class jobs, fight
for bigger paychecks at lower prices, Support our farmers and
rural communities, Secure the border and deport violent illegal immigrants.
Back the blue and defend the right to life and
the Secondment.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
This isn't about Camall Pugh.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Okay, so let's clear by a couple of things. She's
what she says. She nearly beat him after nearly defeating Okay,
so she lost by five and a half points. She
lost by more than twelve thousand votes. It wasn't closed.
I think the guy who ran the last time this
past election was basically the same thing. Okay, that's the
first part of it. But think about this. So according
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to which source was it? To make sure I get
this right, this is Fox fifty nine. It was the
Inspector General has accused Green, according to Fox, viling the
Indiana Code of Ethics ten times in the couple of
months that she was in that office. And what does
she do? She just like these people there is like
(25:29):
there is serious. I don't know what the diagnosis would be,
but the behavior. Are you sensing the pattern? Whether it's
Braun who just lies all the time and never thinks
to think about it, or Micah who lies all the
time or never thinks to think about it, or this woman, right,
a normal person with any decency or humility would be
mortified by their behavior. They'd be like, man, I really
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had a great opportunity and I blew it and I
let the taxpayers down, and I need to like kind
of go think about this for a while and then
figure out if there's a way I can make this
right with people. She just sprints to the next grift
and she's not apologetic at all. There's no apology in
that video. There's no hey man, I made a mistake,
I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
None of that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
She just acts like it just didn't happen. And you
noticed with Micah they still won't come off the spokesman
acting like, we don't know anything about this.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
There's documentations happening, Oh, grand juries are sealed. We don't
know anything about this, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is what these people do. They should not be
allowed to roam out in decent society. They cause immense
harm to the public at large, and there is something
seriously mentally wrong with these people and they're disconnect from
how the rest of decent society behaves.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
She called the allegations baseless and said that she would
address evil with evil, and she said she's running to
support Donald Trump, and she also emphasized the importance of Republicans.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Why Casey, if the allegations were baseless, why did she
sign the plan?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Don't know let's talk about the signs.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh yes, okay, So this article came out that said
this article came out and said that the that the
city of Fort Wayne is about to spend Let's see
who did this, by the way, w f FT I
think is the news l Yes, WFFT TV that the
City of Fort Wayne. City of Fort Wayne is about
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to spend eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars on welcome
signs for I sixty nine and the US twenty four interchange.
Eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. What you don't know?
You're in Fort Wayne?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Used to tell you what.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do the signs say? Do they say Indiana for the Bowl?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Wait? Those are the signs that are being taken down statewide.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So there's We were led to believe that if you've
got property tax relief, that the police and fire departments
would disappear.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
It's all over.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know, you'd be in one kids would be in
all be in one room schoolhouses. But this city has
eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to spend on signage
for an interchange.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Wasn't it wasn't ally county schools that were doing a REFERENDU.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, they got a referendum going on right now. Yeah, yeah,
them and Avon. Okay, By the way, I think they
may have made a big mistake because I saw in
the Amon County chatterboard. I don't know if this is
true or not, but people are really dumb sometimes this
could be true. They said I was going to vote
against the referendum, and then you guys sent Beck without
the knock on doors, and I'll vote.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
For Oh yeah, that happened. That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I really don't know what the referendum past, but that would
be funny if he tanked the referendum for the no people.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Also the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars out of sign.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm also I'm also thinking about how yesterday Governor Braun
he announced that Indiana is going to return to the
Crossroads of America branding and they're gonna what They're going
to replace the current Indiana for the bold.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Motto that's on the state sign.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sure, and it's like, you know, Governor Holcombe took down
the Crossroads of America signs and put up the Indiana
for the Bold signs, And it's almost like if you
if you see that branch, by the way, which is
i DC's motto. I DC's motto, Indiana for the bull.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, it should be for the rich, right like it
should say for the rich, because in that what they
are there for the rich.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So just cross out bold and put riches.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
If you just put that in people's face enough, they'll
they'll start to believe it. And we just want you
to see the I ed C motto over and over again.
You come into the state, and it might as well
have just said, welcome to ie ed C, not welcome
to Indiana, not welcome to the Crossroads of America, welcome
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to the.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I ed C.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Because that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And now they're gonna take all those down and they're
gonna start integrating the Crossroads of America back, which I'm
happy with, but it's just more expense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Because Casey, if you're a multi billion dollar company, are
you picking what state you're going to based on what
the street sign says?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sign says Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
We were kind of on the fence, but that for
the bowls we were out.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But once the Crossroads of America sold, it's not the
money or the tax and centers of the abatements that
didn't was the sign?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
All right, Abduel's with us. Next, well, we'll talk about
by the latest going on with our lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It's Kenna lu Casey on ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
So the Lieutenant governor is a deed under investigation or
thought as it leased by the grand jury. Let's go
to one of the guys who was one of the
first people to say that was taking place.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I hate to say these words, but you were right,
Abdul keeps you. Baz joins us now in our operator
of Indie Politics dot Org A Duel.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Hello.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
You know, as much as I like being right, I
hate being right about the stuff i'm right about because
using the things i'm right about are things are really
bad and really not good. And this is not going
to be good. And I'm just waiting for the one
person say what did the Lieutenant governor know and when
did he know it?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And you know we talked about this lot that of
course the program today. The thing they should be infuriating
to people is not whether Lieutenant Governor's or his office
or under investigation by the Mary Kenny Prosecutor's office the
Grand jury.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
They are We've known that for months.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's this is another example of blatantly dishonest and deceitful
behavior because everybody knew this was taking place, and yet
he was so adamant and so forceful when he would
get asked about it.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
All I had to say was, I can't comment on
any grandeury investigation. Or I can say is if we're
fully coopery with law enforcement, we look forward to a
thin type of investigation.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
The clearer name.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
We always believed in the attained the high moral ethical
standards of government, and we'll just see where it goes.
But we did not do anything wrong and we stand
by ball. That's all you got to say in that's
all you gotta do. But that's not Michaeh's style. Micha
is combative, and Michael loves a television camera, and Michael
loves an audience that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I can respect.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
However, if you're gonna love television audience, to make sure
that television loves you for the right reason.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And again, if you're just new to the program today
and haven't been paying attendment hiding under a rock somewhere
the office of the Lieutenant Governor Micah beckwith according to
Indie Star. Numerous other outlets are in Central Indiana. There
is a grand jury looking into we believe we know
what it is, exactly what we've been saying it is
for months now, which is the AI porn stuff, ghost employment.
(32:42):
And again, a grand jury investigation doesn't mean an indictment.
An indictment doesn't mean a conviction. We've never said any
of that. We simply said this is going on. We
know multiple people who have given information to the Marrion
Kenny Prosecutor's office, and they were so forceful against that.
You say, you look so deceitful and dishonest by not
(33:06):
acknowledging the obvious.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
But I get some time this weekend. I had to
go through our WBC archives and go back and find
that Friday, that the that Aaron Sheridan came and the
story broke on.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
We both did it.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Aaron Sheridan was a member of Micah's office who alleges
she was a senior advisor who alleges that she viewed
artificial intelligence pornography in the Lieutenant Governor's office. She alleged
two individuals who were working as a part of Micah's
office were viewing it and sharing it. She came on
our program, shared that story in great deal detail, also
(33:40):
said that that they they these two individuals, said Michaeh
was aware that the thing existed, and Aaron claims she
told Sherry Ellis Micah beckw With's chief of staff about
this after it happened, and she did nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
So I don't wanted to set up who that is.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And so she came on this program, told that story
in great detail, then one on with You with Indie
Politics and told.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
The story as well, exactly. And that's where things about
the ghost employment came up out people you know, not
coming into work or filled out a fake time cards,
the whole nine yards. And this is all what the
grand jury is looking at right now. It's not saying
anybody broke the law, but this is what the grand
jury is looking at. And beck With went on Hammer
nine afternoon saying, Aaron's crazy. She's just going to employee
(34:23):
Robin Robin Abdullah blah blah. No one reads, no one
listens to them. I don't read their work, blah blah blah.
Well how you like me?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Now?
Speaker 8 (34:30):
I believe it's I believe it's a country song. I
got actually quite a country song.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This is like basic shoe leather work to figure out
this stuff was going on. But it comes back to
a reoccurring theme with Micah where it's either at best
deceptive behavior, at worst blatant dishonesty, And it goes back
to things like how did you end up at Game
three with a of the NBA Finals with the high
profile known felon He can't tell a coherent, consistent story,
(34:58):
the stuff with the call that we caught him on
numerous lies on you come back to even this story
where he tries to claim he didn't know who Lo
Bianco was the guy who broke the story Tom Lobianca, Well,
Labianka spent a whole day with him before this story
ever broke. And then you know, he tries to claim, well,
I heard about the AI porn video from Lo Bianco,
(35:19):
and Lobianca is like, no, no, no, Michael told me, but
heard about it from somebodying the treasurer's office. Like all
of these things, the stories just don't add up, and
you're saying, these are kind of easy things to remember,
and if you're not being consistent or accurate on those,
what else are you being inconsistent and inaccurate on you.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Know, what's the difference between Michael back with Hi dacon
Rales About two inches and some hair. That's about it, all.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Right, So what do you think is going to happen
now with this?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Because again I've said it from the beginning, does not
mean anybody's getting indicted, does not mean anybody's getting convicted.
But what do you think the next step is now?
Because this grand jury has on multiple occasions engaged as
a part of this investigation.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Here's what I see happening next. It is November three,
and then the law makers are back the Senate convenes.
My get back was at the top of the at
the gavel called in the Senate. Just the look I
will be there because the look on everybody's face, their
body language will tell me everything that I need to know,
all right. And I can see like, okay, I can
(36:21):
see a conversation. I'm like, we got to get rid
of this guy.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But what they could do until he's con you know,
in the save India have to be convicted of a
felony in order to be removed from office.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
What can they actually do with the guy? I'm doing
some research on that this week. Okay, very good, real quick,
you mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So speaking of Abdul as our guests, speaking of special
session that's going down supposed to be going down Monday,
we got into this on State House happenings.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It seems like the governor has forced Rod Bray's hand.
It feels like and I'm loaded to ever defend Rod Bray,
but it seems like the pro ten of the Senate,
the leader of the Senate, it seems like he tried
to politely tell the governor on numerous occasions, don't do this, Yes,
don't do it. You don't have the votes. Don't make
us do this. You're not gonna like how it goes.
The governor has now basically forced his hand. Will Rod
(37:06):
Bray be willing to stand up to the governor and
torpedo this thing?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Or is he gonna fold? I don't think.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
I don't think rodel fold because I Rod folds and
it's gonna be that's gonna look even worse for him
and as a Senate President pro tem. But what I
do think it's going to happen is Bray's gonna tell
the members vote your conscience, not gonna strong arm anybody
vote your conscience. He will tell them, vot your conscience
and be mindful of what your constituents want, and what
(37:31):
are your constituents prime what are your constituents priorities right now?
What do you want to do next session? And I
also remember too, we're gonna have this guy here for
the next three years and change if he lasts out
law because.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
They really are. He Braun really is.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
And it's kind of funny to say this, but he's
trying to almost bully the Senate into doing what he wants.
It basically appears that he's saying, all right, well, you
may say you don't have the votes, but let's see
how you do when that board goes you know, green
and red, it's time to pick a lever, right, because
that's how they vote. Red's are nose and greens or yes,
and basically saying, well, we'll see if you got the
(38:04):
stones to do it when everybody's looking now, guys like me,
I would love to do it, and I'd love to
get there and give a big John McCain shaky thumbs down.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
In front of everyone. But you may have a point, Well,
these guys.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Wilt, I don't I don't think they'll wilt and and
I'll do and I'll do fetish to Governor Braun. I
will argue that this is not the work of Governor Braun.
Oh no, it's so it's Trump, you know, it's it's
not Trump either. It's Trump, but it's also another individual involved,
see it the cos.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oho, the chief of staff. Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
So basically, based some promises with the Trump people, we
can get this done, and now they're stuck between a
rock and a hard play.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So basically, because we talked about this before as we
wrap up this interview here, but if he's going to
do it, should have done it back in August. He's
just that we're coming in, we're gonna vote it up,
vote it down. It'll be what it'll be. And we're
done here and we're moving on. If he was gonna
do it, but now he's strung it out for so long,
he's given the other side time to mobilize. There's literally
fierce opposition to this, and he's he being broad is
(39:04):
in the worst of all worlds with this.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
It it's it's there's it's a no, it's a no
win situation either either your damned if you do.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
If you do it, then you're damn if you don't.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
And this this is what happens when you when you
tie yourself to that Trump train and trying to please
know the big Orange guy. Okay, that's fine, but you
gotta remember you still got your constituents here who have
a lot of other concerning issues like energy inflation.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, and Rod Bray don't care about Donald Trump because
Rod Bray don't got to deal with Donald Trump. Rod
Bray's got to worry about keeping a super majority so
that he can go kick his feet up at the
end of the day and go I can do whatever
I want to do and ain't nobody can stop me.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So I think it's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So if you had to say, right now, will there
be a vote, will Rod Bray let it come to
a vote?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
And will it pass? Vote? Yes? Pass? No? Okay, I
say easily by ten votes. Oh you don't think it'll
be close? No? All right, find him over at Indie
Politics dot Org. I do to catch your boss. Thank you,
thank you, and that is gonna do it for us today.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Thank you, Casey, great job as always, and same to
Kevin most importantly, thank you to you, the listener. Without you,
there is no US stick around Tony Katz. Coming up next,
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