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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so we have an update.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ryan Meuher is having a press conference the Marion County
Prosecutor joining us now to get an update on what's
going on as a result of that press conference. Ryan
Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom. Ryan Hedrick, we had mentioned
this multiple times already today. We were shocked that these
were just misdemeanor charges. Apparently not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so Ryan Meuher is saying, about five minutes ago,
they have upgraded the battery to a felony, and I
think it's a level six punishable by maybe a year
in prison. These are now more serious charges. And given
the fact that this elderly man was sitting in a
neck brace in a hospital bed a photo shared by
(00:41):
his family to a media outlet here in Indianapolis, it's
no surprise to me that this guy has really severe
injuries that include a laceration on the side of his
face where there's a hole in his face and he
can't really even speak right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that was so damaging.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean multiple Max lew as many other people posted
those photos that came out but released by the victims family,
and I think that was what everybody said.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
These are missed to me. This is these this gets
you a miss to me.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a really quick cafey, David. I can
tell you I've been in the newsroom for more than
two years now. There have been many, many, many, many
stabbings on Saturday into Sunday, or Friday into Saturday, whatever.
None have warranted a press release from Ryan Mears's office
to us on Sunday morning. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ryan Hendrick from the WEC newsroom as our guest, we're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. At
least one of the charges now has been upgraded to
a felony.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, so that penalty range six months to two and
a half years in prison. At the advisory sentence is
one year fine up to ten thousand dollars, maybe suspended,
or he could be placed on probation. You went down
there and you talked to the people at Loft Miller's,
didn't you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I did. I stopped at the Pronto p so first
I wanted to see if there's videos.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, this was Saturday r Yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was Saturday afternoon when the news broke. TMZ pushed this
out as a breaking news alert. We learned about it
about noon and then put a plan into action, led
by our news director John Herrick, who instructed us we
were in all different parts of the city trying to
gather news and push it out on air and online.
So I went down to Pronto Pizza along West Washington Street.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Right at that alley.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's not really an allio, it's more of a street,
but for the sake of this conversation and Ali, you
could see the loading docks and the blood started right
at the curb as you step up to go into Pronto,
So that's where the blood trail started and then trailed
off right before a mailbox. And people were telling me
that they were seeing this guy, which they later learned
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was Mark Sanchez, banging on the window. I went into
that pub casey, that eatery right at the corner, and
I spoke to a woman named Kathy who was bartending
on the Saturday. She told me that the guy that
ultimately applied pressure to Sanchez was not in. He's also
the general manager, so he was working in the pub
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closes at midnight. Sanchez rolled up at about twelve thirty
and that's when he started banging on the glass. The
bartender didn't even know who he was, He didn't know
what was say anything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did they say that, you know, I've been stabbed?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This habit of the Sanchez told him that he was shot,
and that was the original run for the call. The
original run if you look it up on the on
the Indianapolis Watch page, which they do a good job
of chronicling the scanner, the original run was a shooting
and not a stabbing. They only learned that it was
a stabbing when they got to the pub and saw
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Sanchez had lacerations on his crotch, on his chest and
I think on his arm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom is our guest. He,
along with the rest of the WIBC news team, did
a phenomenal job getting this story out over the weekend.
We'll talk a little bit about the mistigation that he did. Okay,
So you do this fabulous podcast it's called Supporting Sobriety
and which you and Matt Bear talk a lot about
your own struggles with various addictions and so you know
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what alcohol does to a person. Can you take us
through a little bit with your experiences? I mean, because
what could have happened to make him this mad at
this guy he didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, it's called liquid courage for a reason. So when
you drink, you don't feel any pain, you don't even
remember anything. And I remember, I'm not a tough guy.
Nobody ever taught me at a fight. But I could
remember stepping up to people and challenging them to fights
when I was drunk, and sometimes I would win and
sometimes I wouldn't. But one thing I knew for sure
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is that I didn't remember anything. When I woke up.
People would tell me tall tales about what happened. I
knew nothing about what happened when I used to fight
when I was drunk. So assuming that alcohol was the
only thing in his system, he very well could have
been enraged and not known that he was fighting an
elderly guy. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Do we know what he was doing in the alley
and why he was so upset that the delivery truck
was parked where it was?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The AFFI David said that he was running sprints in
the alley. Now, assuming that he was staying at the Weston,
and assuming that he was drinking at some place that
wasn't the pub, that he sought help from probably drinking
in the west and running sprints and maybe looking for
something else, maybe a lady of the night or drugs.
(05:38):
Who knows what happens when these guys get in town.
But I can tell you one thing. Alcohol is the
most dangerous drug. So I go from speculation to straight fact.
Alcohol is the most dangerous drug. It's the most insidious
and the public why is that, Well, because it's it's accepted.
It's accepted. Matt Bear and I get get into this
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all the time. He's like, why wasn't cool enough to
have a drug dealer? Well, your drug dealer was the
corner store that's open until twelve o'clock every night in Indiana,
so you can walk in and get alcohol. It's not
like if I were to go out and cop coke
or heroin from the east Side and try to do
a shady drug deal in an alley. You can walk
into a liquor store and get your drug a choice.
(06:22):
That's why it's so insidious, because people don't think they
have a problem if they can continue their using because
it's justified and accepted.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Many people are commenting that Ryan Meher's Marion County prosecutor,
is now speaking out, although he's been quiet on many
things for the past three years. Why now, why this story?
Is it because the NFL, a billion dollar company, is involved.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's embarrassing for Indianapolis when TMZ has this as their
front page story for the better part of twelve hours
on a Saturday, when the news cycle is relatively slow
in Indianapolis and violence are synonymous in Google searches. I
think this is a career case for Ryan Meres. I
think we know he's going to run for mayor. He's
already doing like secret parties to raise money. Joe howg
(07:08):
set may be raising money And if you're Ryan Meres,
a feather in your cap would be prosecuting a former
NFL quarterback who violently assaulted in elderly man. I mean,
what's the better story for him leading into a possible
mayoral run.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, So from your like, I mean from your investigation
that you've done, and you guys have been on this
all weekend. Do they they being the Prosecutor's office, I mean,
as you mentioned, they moved on this very quickly. Do
they feel like they got a pretty good case?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, because they have a kid evidence.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I contacted the management company that manage I forgot
what management company it is, but they own the whole
block from Pronto Pizza all the way east to the
pub and beyond. There's one company that controls those video cameras,
and assuming looking at the cameras that I was looking at,
they have them at north, southeast and west. All cameras
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are trained on that loading dock and back at the west.
And there's no ankle that's not covered. And presumably what
Sanchez did was throw this guy into the dumpster, throw
him down to the ground, push him, kick him, punch him.
He did everything short of like choke him out. This
guy was so terrified he said in the AFFI David
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that he thought that Sanchez was gonna kill him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So is it from all the stuff that you've read
and the pieces were putting together here and obviously these
charges one has been upgraded to a felony that he
may have just been so unaware of who he was
and what he was doing that, like you had said
with your encounters, perhaps I mean, there was no thing
that triggered it. He was just in a horrible state.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I could tell you real quick. I was in
a violent fight at a house club house music at
a club in Washington, d C. After like three o'clock
one night, and I remember punching and kicking this guy,
and this guy split my ear with like the tip
of a knife. And every when I woke up at
a friend's house the next day, everybody's like, what the
heck happened? I'm like, what do you mean would happen?
(09:05):
I knew nothing except I had a band aid on
my ear, and people had told me how violent this
fight was and how long it went on for I
had no clue that I expended that much energy and
that this guy and I had been in a crazy fight.
So yeah, presumably Mark Sanchez could have like railed on
this guy and he probably woke up handcuffed to a.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Bed, a hospital bed, a hospital bed.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, you guys did a phenomenal job putting this together.
Like I said, the WBC News team collectively gave up
their weekends, went out, got all this information, and you're
one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Thanks man. If you for your listeners, follow me on
TikTok because there's about a two minute video where I
recount everything and I'm just telling people kind of what happens.
So follow me on TikTok sure to cover number two.
It'd appreciate the following. You'll get all your information.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Wait you say that in English. I don't have TikTok sure.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To cover too. It's TikTok an app a video. Yeah,
TikTok is yea yeah. Following on that part, follow me
on TikTok type in sure to cover, and then number
two my video pop up. It's been seen more than
one hundred and eight thousand times so far. All right,
thank you, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You're listening to Kendle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Well we got.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We got some good news this morning. Casey.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, Democrats in Indiana may finally be about to get
their act together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Maybe he thinks so big.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe it's a big maybe, but at least they're at
least they're taking the first step in this process.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah. So Bo Baye, son of former Senator and Governor
Evan By, has officially filed to run for Indiana Secretary
of State.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
All Right, so, one of the major that there's a
couple of problems with the Democrats in Indiana and why
they find themselves in the position they're in number one,
or national party has drifted so radically left that in
swing or certainly red states, people just look at that
and go, eh, no thanks. And how many times have
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we heard from people who say, sure, I get that
the Republicans are raising my taxes, I get the corruption
I had, Like, I'm not fighting you at all these
things you're telling me. I just can't bring myself to
ponder even ponder letting these insane people, you know, in
charge of anything, So that you know, that's the first
problem they have. The second problem is and in a
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place like Indiana, which is a red state, it's stems
sort of from the top, which is you're not getting
you're not getting money that's flowing in because Indiana has
become a red state, and when their Democrats look at, hey,
where are we gonna, you know, spend our dollars, Where
are we going to push out where we're going to
put people on the ground, They're going to do it
in these places. The Pennsylvania is right, They're just that
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they're saying, look, the ROI is not worth the the
ROI is not there. And so then you get the
third part of this equation, which is you don't get
good people running.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I mean, you get bad candidates.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You get people who can't fund raise, you get people
who don't connect, you get messages that don't resonate, and
so then you get these Republican super majorities as a result,
in which the party in power believes they're invincible and
they just start serving the donors and the lobbyists because
they go, what are you gonna do about it? And
so hopefully bo Bay's announcement that he's going to run
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for Secretary of State, which is the big anchialada next
year in the state of Indiana in the midterms, will
number one at least finally will get some sort of
competitive race where we've actually got to talk about things
and talk about things that matter and talk about who
the Republicans are and how they've run our state. But
also maybe it will force the rest of the Democrats
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to elevate their game. So for state treasure, they get
somebody competent for they get somebody competent for a lot
of these down ballot, these congressional races, the state House seats,
the state Senate seats, they get people who actually can
let us have an important conversation about how the Republicans
have run the state the last twenty.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Years, right, because the competition will make everybody else better.
Here is Bo Bay on his announcement to run for
Secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Hey, I'm Bo Bye.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I'm a seventh generation Hoosier, and i served our country
as a captain in the United States Monument. And now
I'm running to be our secretary of State to take
on a corrupt office and fix a broken political system
that doesn't serve us.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The secretary of State's office is.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Exactly what's wrong with our politics. Instead of serving Hoosier's
that office has been used to cut backroom deals with
our tax dollars, handing out perks to politicians and their
insider friends.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Who's just work hard for our money.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
It's being wasted.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
There's no accountability.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
We deserve a Secretary of State that works for the
people there, not of self.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So here's my plan. First, All right, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Plan info marcial for the guy, but right, He said
he was raised to believe public service is actually about
serving the public, not the party, and certainly not yourself.
And he promises accountability and transparency and government spending. He
vowed to expose corruption and waste, oppose burdens some taxes
because Secretary of State has no control over that, he
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can just oppose it. I don't like this, and of
course oversee fair and secure elections and support small business.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, you know what's gonna be fast, because obviously there
is a Republican convention. Dave Shelton is running against Diego Morales.
I think he'll I think he'll do all right. I
just don't I don't know if he's got it necessary
to convince these delegates to get out the right side of.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
The Indianapolis bubble. I believe Diego Morales is still somewhat popular,
but when you go to northern Indiana, especially around Goshen
and Elkhart, they like him.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And I did an interview on WJOB, which is a
big station up in the region, a couple of weeks ago,
and they said that they said, we get our in
from you a lot of times, and you know, then
we're relaying stuff and they got a great morning show
up there. But they said, this stuff just doesn't exist
like it exists in your orbit. Because you guys talk
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about the twenty five counties or whatever. People can hear WIBC.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So if we make the step which hey, David Shelton
would be a phenomenal Secretary of State. He actually has
qualified to do the job. He's a very competent guy.
But let's just assume for the sake of this conversation
that it is Diego versus bow Bye. Now we finally
get to have the conversation about who the Republicans are.
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We get to have the conversation about how Diego Morales
has used and abused that office. We get to have
the conversation about how people like Mike Brawn and Todd
Roketa and Micah beck With and Daniel Elliott and Alista
Shalla and Rod Bray and Todd Houston.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Who know exactly who that guy is.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
They know exactly what Diego is, They know exactly what
a dirty, rotten, corrupt, unethical person he is.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They've done nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Why because they're getting a slice of the pie.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
The money that touches Diego touches everybody else, and they
can't lose the office, the office, the politics is always
more important to these people than doing what's right. And
so with bo buy, for the first time in a
long time, the Democrats will have a candidate who won
will be able to raise the money necessary.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And Diego may not want to tell who paid for India.
The buyes are gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I have no doubt the buys are gonna find out
who paid for that trip to India and a whole
bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Okay, well, they've got the money to do this. There
are some other candidates running for Secretary of State. You
have blithe Potter, who is also in the military, so
that's a wash.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
She's running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
She is running on the Democrat side. And one thing
that she has been pointing out, she's really trying to
grow her social media base right now, because I don't
know if she has all the money in the reserves
to fight along the lines that Bobi has. But she
has been saying already that bo Bie is she's calling
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into question his residency. Does he actually live here? Is
he a hoosier? And something else that people are already
pointing out is that the audio that we played, the
video that Bobai released to announces run, there's no disclaimer
on that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, okay, so first of all, people have got to
think of this in a broad picture right by the
way we did the math, all we got to do.
If you take the twenty twenty two Secretary of States race,
because desney Well is about a bat of a candidate
you could possibly be. So Diego's not going to do
any better than you know. That's the baseline, right, And
Diego's only gotten more exposed since then. He won by
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two hundred and fifty thousand votes, which means my little
pet project for the next year, Casey is going to
figure out how to take one hundred and twenty five
thousand people and convince them to change change their mind. Now,
you got to think of this in the broader picture,
which is if you will re elect Diego Morales. You
are saying if you vote for him, if you vote
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for Diego Morales and you put him back in office.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You're saying it's okay.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You're saying all of it's fine, the corruption, the unethical behavior,
the lies, the deceit, and this guy he sucks at
his job anyway, Like, don't you have to stand up
for yourself at some point. I'm not saying I've talked
to Bobai a little bit and he seems like a
very nice guy, but I'm not in love with the guy.
I know what you're probably getting into, but gosh, Darna,
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at some point, don't you have to say enough is
enough with this Republican corruption. It's all a part of
the same disease Casey Diego, the IEDC, all of this stuff.
It comes from the same feeling of arrogance and invincibility,
because the Republicans believe no matter how much they abuse you,
no matter how much crap they shove into your face,
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you will keep rolling over and saying, give me more
of it. This will be the time I really want,
I really want the bow by Diego Morales campaign. Look,
I'd be fine if David Shelton wends he's a nice
guy do a good job of the office. But this
is such a bigger conversation. When does it stop? When
do we stop telling these Republicans this behavior is okay?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, this make the party start sinking more money into
Diego Morales now that they think he might have a
legitimate challenger. I mean, with buy you've got the name
recognition or is that name recognition going to turn people
off because it seems very dynastic.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, but okay, so this was I saw this post
and by the way, the mental gymnastics people are doing
now to in their mind start processing how do I
support Diego. It's funny because some persons said something about abortion,
and I said, okay, I'll take the bait on that.
What does the Secretary of State have to do with abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
The question was, you say you're going to vote for
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Diego because of abortion. What has Diego done on abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Oh so nothing. And this will be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It'll be a fun exercise for our show the next
year to see these people twist themselves into mental pretzels
to condone voting for what they know is corrupt, unethical,
already rotten behavior. And and uh, you're gonna get this
now because he looked he being bo Bay. He looks
straight out of Central Casting. He's got the pedigree, he's
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got the resume. And if for no other reason, wouldn't
it be fun to just let a Democrat open the
doors to the Secretary of State's office so we can see.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Don't you want to know?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Don't you want to know, the answers to all these
things about how corrupt and rotten the Republicans.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Are, who paid for the trip to India? Will bo
By find out?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So anyway, I think this is gonna be fascinating. It
is cool wit debate.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well that that'll be the uh that that'll we'll see
if because Diego refused last time, because there is no
defense of Diego and he knows if he has to
get on a stage and answer for India and and
Hungary and was it Vancouver and the car and the
brother in law and you know, all those all those things,
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but that's not going to go very well for him.
So at least now we've got a ballgame. Can the
Democrats get their act together and find like individuals to
run on a ticket with this guy, because look, if
you put a bunch of these Destiny Wells styled nut
jobs around him, you're going to drag him down. You
got to get even if they just sit in the
shadows and say nothing, you got to get a slate
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full of people who can focus on the issues.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
They can talk about one.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Thing, and that is competency in government and the corruption
of the Republicans the past ten to fifteen years that
should be the whole campaign.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So we've been mentioning that Dave Shelton is running, and
you've got Diego Morales running, Jamie Rittenaur is running, and
also bo Bie blithe Potter, and did you know there's
a libertarian.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Running as Lori Shillings is her name? That's right, Yeah,
Lori Shillings.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Who knew the Secretary of State was such a popular
position to run for it?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well, Diego has proven it's a pretty big You can
have a lot of fun with other people's money.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Apparently you can do a lot of traveling on someone
else's dime. It is Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So we thought for people who've been out working and
living life today, we might reset just kind of everything
that we now know. There have been some big updates
in the Mark Sanchez case. Ryan Meers, the Marion County Prosecutor,
had a press conference just literally thirty minutes ago and
they have the big news is they have elevated one
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of the charges from a misdemeanor to a felony.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So the initial charges included three misdemeanors battery with injury,
unlawful entry of a motor vehicle, and then public intoxication,
but a felony charge felony battery was added after the
investigators confirmed the seriousness of the victim's injury. That from
the Marion County Prosecutor Ryan meres So.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Then it sparks sort of the broader conversation because Ryan
Hedrick was with us from the WBC newsroom. He spent
the entire weekend digging into this, got a lot of
information before anybody else did, did a lot of door
to door interviews in the area in which the altercation occurred.
And you when he was telling that story about that
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Sanchez allegedly said the report came in that he had
been shot. You got to wonder where that miscommunication came.
Did it come from him? But it sparks this broader
conversation about what was going on with this guy, if
indeed he was that inebriated, as the allegations have come
forth thus far, that he gets into this rage filled
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position where he's fighting some sixty nine year old guy
over a parking spot, as Ryan Meure's I believe it
was a Meer said in the press conference today, dude,
you're a former college football great, you had a long
career in the NFL. Sure you're known for something goofy,
but you made a gajillion dollars, got a beautiful wife.
I don't think they hav any kids, but your whole
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job knows you go talk about football like what is
going on where you have if indeed the facts match
with the prosecutor and the impd have put forth thus far?
Do you have so little self control that you're in
town to announce a football game and this is how
you're spending your time.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, he was in Indianapolis as part of the Fox
Sports broadcast team for the Raiders Colt game, and obviously
due to the incident, he didn't participate in the broadcast.
When did he get into town? Was it that Friday?
And how long had he been participating in adult libations
to get to that point? And I'm really disappointed in
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the broadcast. You know, I like Brady Quinn, but this
is what they said.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Man, when you welcome you to Indianapolis, Cindiana as the
Las Vegas Raiders visits the Colts, thank you for being
with us and for tuning in on Chris Myers along
with Brady who is stepping in for Mark Sanchez, and
obviously we all want to send out our thoughts and
prayers to Mark and those involved in Friday's incident as
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we get ready for today's game.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You had a day and a half to come up
with something to say, and that's what they came up with.
That is so insulting. And it sort of goes back
to the segment we did just just a few minutes
ago about why the Republicans in the state behave the
way they do because they feel entitled to it now
and I'm not saying this is exactly what was going on,
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but a lot of times when you're i mean, look,
this guy had everything in life, right, great looking guy,
great athlete, lots of money, like a lot of sometimes
life just comes easy to some people. And when you
get that, you don't not to say it didn't work hard,
not to say he didn't put the time in. But
(25:53):
sometimes when you feel you're entitled to something or you've
always had something, you don't feel like you have to
work for it anymore, or that you get special privileges,
or you don't behave in a manner that's you know, correct,
right versus people who have had to earn things. And
so it comes back to the conversation about elections in
(26:14):
the state. Republican street use a voter like garbage because
they believe they're entitled to your vote. Now they'll tell you,
they won't use that exact word, but they'll lay it
out to you.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
It is very much like a do you know who
I am? Sort of situation. Sure, that's kind of the
vibe that it gives off. Well, now with the felony charge,
the case is not going to move to a major
felony court, and if convicted, Sanchez could face one to
six years in prison. He's scheduled to appear in court
on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You you covered lifestyle and the stuff for years, so
you know it's better than I would. And I know
this guy's not Taylor Swift, but doesn't he have people.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Right to look out for him.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Like or you know, you're, hey, I'm going on this
trip or doing the ballgame. You know, I got the
cameramen and all my people that are like, how how
does a guy who is in the public light to
get that allegedly inepriated.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And nobody stopped him?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, And they're like, dude, you gotta go home.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Nobody stay. That's enough for him.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know, we're out of here, because it's like he's.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Getting nod to the bartender water from now on.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, he's I mean, he's a he's a known quantity
and he you know, he looks straight out of Central Casting.
It's not like you're gonna he's gonna blend in if
he goes somewhere. That would be what I'd be fascinated
to know is how did it get to that point?
And at his age, He's thirty eight or thirty nine
years old, Like, come on, man, you're not a twenty
two year old kid anymore. You're a grown ass adult.
(27:34):
You had an entire life in the NFL. How are
how why are you still doing this right?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do those guys travel alone? Do they just put him
on a plane and said, okay, we need you an indy.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well that's what I'm to do the game. That's what
I'm curious to know.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
And you know, I thought they typically showed up right
before the game.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No, they go in there because they interviewed the team
and the coaches the day, you know, a couple of
days before, you know, get things whatever. I just look
at it from like my perspective, where I say to myself,
you know, if I go out, I will have like
usually one drink, maybe two, that's it. But a long
period in between when I leave or go somewhere or whatever,
(28:14):
because I'm super cognizant of it. Took me all this
time to get here, am I. I'm not gonna give
it away or do something stupid something all these years
of toiling and hard work and everything else I got.
You got to be super cognizant of that, which is
why very rarely I will on occasion, but very not
very often, that I drink outside my home anymore, just
(28:37):
because it's like the risk is not worth there is
no reward. There is no reward, but the risk is
And you just wonder what that guy, dude, you have,
you have money to lose.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's such as a career, it's your fortune. You're You're like,
what the heck happened with this guy? That he got
to that point?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that in one night, all of that's gone, because well,
what does Fox do now? At this point? I mean,
clearly he's off the broadcast team.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean he's he's done, and depending on what
comes out about this. He may be like done done
working at a Wendy's done, because I'm sure there's going
to be some sort of or imagine there's going to
be some sort of civil.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Regation on the victims as well.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So, yeah, you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is
ninety three w ib C.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't even know. Don't wow me this count.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
If any of this matters.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Casey have a profession, Oh, sitting on toilets public time?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
They're so gross?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Do you ever wipe it off?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Because that to me seems even grosser.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, I'd rather just go in my pants.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
There's a new study that came out and the question
was are public toilet seats safe to sit on? And
you'll be surprised by the results. The answer is, actually, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
They are. They are safe to sit on. They are
safe to sit on.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
However, the handles, the taps, the flush lever, those have
more germs on them than the actual toilet seat.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Okay, so I looked into this years ago. Not gonna
say why, but I looked into this years ago, and
you're correct. There are certain things that can linger on
a toilet seat, but a lot of the things that
people are afraid of that they don't like once they're
airborne or whatever. You're done, right, So the things. But
(30:57):
and I won't get into the intricacies of the things
that I learned that do remain a on a toilet seat.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
But here's your imagination.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, it is gross though, like OCD, I just know,
I like, I can't right, I gotta hold.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It, can't do it? Okay, So what about hovering? This
study said that you should actually skip hovering. What is
you know, hovering over the toilet? Oh, you don't actually
put your cheeks on the on the surface, right, They
say you got to skip hovering because that actually increases
the splatter and leaves the seat dirtier.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
For the next person. Yeah, but what about you?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Uh, well, the what do they call it, the flume
that comes up with the flush.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
There's a lot of germs that come with that. So
you're supposed to actually close the toilet seat before you
have flush. I don't know. It seems to me like
a lot of rest areas, public restrooms, they don't have
a toilet cover you know that goes on the seat.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Wait, wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
So you can't close the toilet.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, okay, I
see what you're I see what you're saying. Well, I mean,
it's an emergency thing right now, think about theoretically arrest
or you can just.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Go in the woods. Well you could.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
The thing that I just like about the rest area
is that it has that electronic sensor on the wall
behind you. So sometimes if you go to sit or hover,
it'll flush when you haven't even gone yet, like you're
just getting into position, and then it flushes and you
get that missed feeling and apparently, according to this study,
(32:33):
that's filled with germs.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, so is this this way for women? Like when
you're in a stall, because men have two options, right,
you can stand up or sit down. I always feel
very awkward when I am in the men's restroom and
there's somebody in the stall next to me, and I
know what they're doing in there.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know what. But if it's an emergency, you just
got a grin and Barrett.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Right, Well, but for women, guys, you don't know. For
women though, because they have they only have one option.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
You're always going to see the shoes facing the same direction.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right, and so when I'm in that men's restroom, and
I hate this because there's only nine people that work
in our building. Now I basically know who it is
from the moment I'm in there. There used to be
a time here at MS where there were so many
people you didn't know who it was, so you could
do it somewhat in anonymity. But now yeah, I know
based on basically whose shoes it are.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It is who it is.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And then I feel super awkward that they probably know
based on who my shoes are. And I'm in there,
and then I got to see them after.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
It's like a.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's like a an intimate encounter right where you know,
you see the person that you want, well you know
where it's like.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Then you got to see them out, and about was, well,
that's awkward.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
How you feeling a little lighter? Well that's why you
got to go downstairs to the private, private bathroom. See,
now I don't have that big of a problem because
there are far less women who.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Are on the floor. Literally, there's you, Terry, John.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Johanna, and we work opposite shifts, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And Terry's only here sporadically, Yeah, here all day every day,
so I've.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Got a luxurious bathroom all to myself.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
There's a woman who works I think she's with one
of the Spanish stations that is an executive type, that's
down down the hall there. I don't know if you've
ever had to encounter her.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
We've passed each other, but yeah, so you don't really now.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I do go if I ever in the rare occasion
I have to, the MS gym is still open, and
so I will run down there, and usually in the
morning there's nobody down there, so that's a very quick How.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Clean is the men's bathroom because the ladies bathroom has
flowers and so yeah, very.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Clean, that's it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But I see, I think that's because the MS executive
people still use the gym on the seventh floor. MAS
still exists with the executive corporate people because it's still
a thing and owns various properties, and so I think
that's why they're so adamant about cleaning that bathroom down
there on a regular basis. By the way, you'll love this,
there has been a hair dryer down there since before
(35:07):
COVID and it's still there.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It's still there.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Somebody took a shower.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And my great hope.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it's like somebody took a shower before COVID and
then that person must have never come back. And for
five going on six years now, there has been a
assume it's still down there. There is a hair dryer
in the men's gym bathroom, and I will my great
hope is that when we all leave for the last
(35:33):
time and then over to our new video, it will
still be there. Yeah, And when they tear this thing
down or do whatever they're going to do, however, it's
going to be repurposed that the hair dryer will be
the last thing in the rubble.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It'll that poor little hair dryer.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Speaking of blow dryers, so when you wash your hands
in a public restroom, they have the blower. Yeah, it's
cleaner apparently to use paper towel because the blower.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Is oh, you're very nervou Yeah. I get game blowing the.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Drums around and those tiny droplets. I guess they can
travel up to two meters in the air. How far
is two meters? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
We're America. We work in feet, right, we work in centimeters.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
So two meters equals well, too far. The one thing
that you definitely have to clean in the bathroom, especially
a public restroom. Is the baby changing table? Oh yeah,
you have to wipe that down before you put the baby.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Have a real problem change in my baby in public view? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I know. Have you ever seen who was it? It
was John Mullaney or some comedian was talking about how
they used to do like drugs off the baby changing cable.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Look, look, can we just as we wrap this up,
just agree anything you're doing related to some level of
being exposed in public, probably not.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Clean, Probably not wash your hands at least up to
twenty seconds. Please, all right, enough bathroom talk for us.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It's time to go.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Thank you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for
listening today. This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety
three WYBC.
Okay, so we have an update.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ryan Meuher is having a press conference the Marion County
Prosecutor joining us now to get an update on what's
going on as a result of that press conference. Ryan
Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom. Ryan Hedrick, we had mentioned
this multiple times already today. We were shocked that these
were just misdemeanor charges. Apparently not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, so Ryan Meuher is saying, about five minutes ago,
they have upgraded the battery to a felony, and I
think it's a level six punishable by maybe a year
in prison. These are now more serious charges. And given
the fact that this elderly man was sitting in a
neck brace in a hospital bed a photo shared by
(00:41):
his family to a media outlet here in Indianapolis, it's
no surprise to me that this guy has really severe
injuries that include a laceration on the side of his
face where there's a hole in his face and he
can't really even speak right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that was so damaging.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean multiple Max lew as many other people posted
those photos that came out but released by the victims family,
and I think that was what everybody said.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
These are missed to me. This is these this gets
you a miss to me.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a really quick cafey, David. I can
tell you I've been in the newsroom for more than
two years now. There have been many, many, many, many
stabbings on Saturday into Sunday, or Friday into Saturday, whatever.
None have warranted a press release from Ryan Mears's office
to us on Sunday morning. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ryan Hendrick from the WEC newsroom as our guest, we're
talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. At
least one of the charges now has been upgraded to
a felony.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, so that penalty range six months to two and
a half years in prison. At the advisory sentence is
one year fine up to ten thousand dollars, maybe suspended,
or he could be placed on probation. You went down
there and you talked to the people at Loft Miller's,
didn't you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I did. I stopped at the Pronto p so first
I wanted to see if there's videos.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, this was Saturday r Yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was Saturday afternoon when the news broke. TMZ pushed this
out as a breaking news alert. We learned about it
about noon and then put a plan into action, led
by our news director John Herrick, who instructed us we
were in all different parts of the city trying to
gather news and push it out on air and online.
So I went down to Pronto Pizza along West Washington Street.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Right at that alley.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's not really an allio, it's more of a street,
but for the sake of this conversation and Ali, you
could see the loading docks and the blood started right
at the curb as you step up to go into Pronto,
So that's where the blood trail started and then trailed
off right before a mailbox. And people were telling me
that they were seeing this guy, which they later learned
(02:46):
was Mark Sanchez, banging on the window. I went into
that pub casey, that eatery right at the corner, and
I spoke to a woman named Kathy who was bartending
on the Saturday. She told me that the guy that
ultimately applied pressure to Sanchez was not in. He's also
the general manager, so he was working in the pub
(03:07):
closes at midnight. Sanchez rolled up at about twelve thirty
and that's when he started banging on the glass. The
bartender didn't even know who he was, He didn't know
what was say anything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did they say that, you know, I've been stabbed?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This habit of the Sanchez told him that he was shot,
and that was the original run for the call. The
original run if you look it up on the on
the Indianapolis Watch page, which they do a good job
of chronicling the scanner, the original run was a shooting
and not a stabbing. They only learned that it was
a stabbing when they got to the pub and saw
(03:43):
Sanchez had lacerations on his crotch, on his chest and
I think on his arm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom is our guest. He,
along with the rest of the WIBC news team, did
a phenomenal job getting this story out over the weekend.
We'll talk a little bit about the mistigation that he did. Okay,
So you do this fabulous podcast it's called Supporting Sobriety
and which you and Matt Bear talk a lot about
your own struggles with various addictions and so you know
(04:14):
what alcohol does to a person. Can you take us
through a little bit with your experiences? I mean, because
what could have happened to make him this mad at
this guy he didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, it's called liquid courage for a reason. So when
you drink, you don't feel any pain, you don't even
remember anything. And I remember, I'm not a tough guy.
Nobody ever taught me at a fight. But I could
remember stepping up to people and challenging them to fights
when I was drunk, and sometimes I would win and
sometimes I wouldn't. But one thing I knew for sure
(04:49):
is that I didn't remember anything. When I woke up.
People would tell me tall tales about what happened. I
knew nothing about what happened when I used to fight
when I was drunk. So assuming that alcohol was the
only thing in his system, he very well could have
been enraged and not known that he was fighting an
elderly guy. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Do we know what he was doing in the alley
and why he was so upset that the delivery truck
was parked where it was?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The AFFI David said that he was running sprints in
the alley. Now, assuming that he was staying at the Weston,
and assuming that he was drinking at some place that
wasn't the pub, that he sought help from probably drinking
in the west and running sprints and maybe looking for
something else, maybe a lady of the night or drugs.
(05:38):
Who knows what happens when these guys get in town.
But I can tell you one thing. Alcohol is the
most dangerous drug. So I go from speculation to straight fact.
Alcohol is the most dangerous drug. It's the most insidious
and the public why is that, Well, because it's it's accepted.
It's accepted. Matt Bear and I get get into this
(05:59):
all the time. He's like, why wasn't cool enough to
have a drug dealer? Well, your drug dealer was the
corner store that's open until twelve o'clock every night in Indiana,
so you can walk in and get alcohol. It's not
like if I were to go out and cop coke
or heroin from the east Side and try to do
a shady drug deal in an alley. You can walk
into a liquor store and get your drug a choice.
(06:22):
That's why it's so insidious, because people don't think they
have a problem if they can continue their using because
it's justified and accepted.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Many people are commenting that Ryan Meher's Marion County prosecutor,
is now speaking out, although he's been quiet on many
things for the past three years. Why now, why this story?
Is it because the NFL, a billion dollar company, is involved.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's embarrassing for Indianapolis when TMZ has this as their
front page story for the better part of twelve hours
on a Saturday, when the news cycle is relatively slow
in Indianapolis and violence are synonymous in Google searches. I
think this is a career case for Ryan Meres. I
think we know he's going to run for mayor. He's
already doing like secret parties to raise money. Joe howg
(07:08):
set may be raising money And if you're Ryan Meres,
a feather in your cap would be prosecuting a former
NFL quarterback who violently assaulted in elderly man. I mean,
what's the better story for him leading into a possible
mayoral run.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, So from your like, I mean from your investigation
that you've done, and you guys have been on this
all weekend. Do they they being the Prosecutor's office, I mean,
as you mentioned, they moved on this very quickly. Do
they feel like they got a pretty good case?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, because they have a kid evidence.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I contacted the management company that manage I forgot
what management company it is, but they own the whole
block from Pronto Pizza all the way east to the
pub and beyond. There's one company that controls those video cameras,
and assuming looking at the cameras that I was looking at,
they have them at north, southeast and west. All cameras
(08:03):
are trained on that loading dock and back at the west.
And there's no ankle that's not covered. And presumably what
Sanchez did was throw this guy into the dumpster, throw
him down to the ground, push him, kick him, punch him.
He did everything short of like choke him out. This
guy was so terrified he said in the AFFI David
(08:23):
that he thought that Sanchez was gonna kill him.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So is it from all the stuff that you've read
and the pieces were putting together here and obviously these
charges one has been upgraded to a felony that he
may have just been so unaware of who he was
and what he was doing that, like you had said
with your encounters, perhaps I mean, there was no thing
that triggered it. He was just in a horrible state.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I could tell you real quick. I was in
a violent fight at a house club house music at
a club in Washington, d C. After like three o'clock
one night, and I remember punching and kicking this guy,
and this guy split my ear with like the tip
of a knife. And every when I woke up at
a friend's house the next day, everybody's like, what the
heck happened? I'm like, what do you mean would happen?
(09:05):
I knew nothing except I had a band aid on
my ear, and people had told me how violent this
fight was and how long it went on for I
had no clue that I expended that much energy and
that this guy and I had been in a crazy fight.
So yeah, presumably Mark Sanchez could have like railed on
this guy and he probably woke up handcuffed to a.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Bed, a hospital bed, a hospital bed.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, you guys did a phenomenal job putting this together.
Like I said, the WBC News team collectively gave up
their weekends, went out, got all this information, and you're
one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Thanks man. If you for your listeners, follow me on
TikTok because there's about a two minute video where I
recount everything and I'm just telling people kind of what happens.
So follow me on TikTok sure to cover number two.
It'd appreciate the following. You'll get all your information.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Wait you say that in English. I don't have TikTok sure.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
To cover too. It's TikTok an app a video. Yeah,
TikTok is yea yeah. Following on that part, follow me
on TikTok type in sure to cover, and then number
two my video pop up. It's been seen more than
one hundred and eight thousand times so far. All right,
thank you, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You're listening to Kendle and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Well we got.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We got some good news this morning. Casey.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, Democrats in Indiana may finally be about to get
their act together.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Maybe he thinks so big.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe it's a big maybe, but at least they're at
least they're taking the first step in this process.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah. So Bo Baye, son of former Senator and Governor
Evan By, has officially filed to run for Indiana Secretary
of State.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
All Right, so, one of the major that there's a
couple of problems with the Democrats in Indiana and why
they find themselves in the position they're in number one,
or national party has drifted so radically left that in
swing or certainly red states, people just look at that
and go, eh, no thanks. And how many times have
(11:12):
we heard from people who say, sure, I get that
the Republicans are raising my taxes, I get the corruption
I had, Like, I'm not fighting you at all these
things you're telling me. I just can't bring myself to
ponder even ponder letting these insane people, you know, in
charge of anything, So that you know, that's the first
problem they have. The second problem is and in a
(11:35):
place like Indiana, which is a red state, it's stems
sort of from the top, which is you're not getting
you're not getting money that's flowing in because Indiana has
become a red state, and when their Democrats look at, hey,
where are we gonna, you know, spend our dollars, Where
are we going to push out where we're going to
put people on the ground, They're going to do it
in these places. The Pennsylvania is right, They're just that
(11:58):
they're saying, look, the ROI is not worth the the
ROI is not there. And so then you get the
third part of this equation, which is you don't get
good people running.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I mean, you get bad candidates.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You get people who can't fund raise, you get people
who don't connect, you get messages that don't resonate, and
so then you get these Republican super majorities as a result,
in which the party in power believes they're invincible and
they just start serving the donors and the lobbyists because
they go, what are you gonna do about it? And
so hopefully bo Bay's announcement that he's going to run
(12:33):
for Secretary of State, which is the big anchialada next
year in the state of Indiana in the midterms, will
number one at least finally will get some sort of
competitive race where we've actually got to talk about things
and talk about things that matter and talk about who
the Republicans are and how they've run our state. But
also maybe it will force the rest of the Democrats
(12:54):
to elevate their game. So for state treasure, they get
somebody competent for they get somebody competent for a lot
of these down ballot, these congressional races, the state House seats,
the state Senate seats, they get people who actually can
let us have an important conversation about how the Republicans
have run the state the last twenty.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Years, right, because the competition will make everybody else better.
Here is Bo Bay on his announcement to run for
Secretary of State.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Hey, I'm Bo Bye.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I'm a seventh generation Hoosier, and i served our country
as a captain in the United States Monument. And now
I'm running to be our secretary of State to take
on a corrupt office and fix a broken political system
that doesn't serve us.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The secretary of State's office is.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Exactly what's wrong with our politics. Instead of serving Hoosier's
that office has been used to cut backroom deals with
our tax dollars, handing out perks to politicians and their
insider friends.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Who's just work hard for our money.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
It's being wasted.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
There's no accountability.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
We deserve a Secretary of State that works for the
people there, not of self.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So here's my plan. First, All right, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Plan info marcial for the guy, but right, He said
he was raised to believe public service is actually about
serving the public, not the party, and certainly not yourself.
And he promises accountability and transparency and government spending. He
vowed to expose corruption and waste, oppose burdens some taxes
because Secretary of State has no control over that, he
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can just oppose it. I don't like this, and of
course oversee fair and secure elections and support small business.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, you know what's gonna be fast, because obviously there
is a Republican convention. Dave Shelton is running against Diego Morales.
I think he'll I think he'll do all right. I
just don't I don't know if he's got it necessary
to convince these delegates to get out the right side of.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
The Indianapolis bubble. I believe Diego Morales is still somewhat popular,
but when you go to northern Indiana, especially around Goshen
and Elkhart, they like him.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And I did an interview on WJOB, which is a
big station up in the region, a couple of weeks ago,
and they said that they said, we get our in
from you a lot of times, and you know, then
we're relaying stuff and they got a great morning show
up there. But they said, this stuff just doesn't exist
like it exists in your orbit. Because you guys talk
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about the twenty five counties or whatever. People can hear WIBC.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So if we make the step which hey, David Shelton
would be a phenomenal Secretary of State. He actually has
qualified to do the job. He's a very competent guy.
But let's just assume for the sake of this conversation
that it is Diego versus bow Bye. Now we finally
get to have the conversation about who the Republicans are.
(15:37):
We get to have the conversation about how Diego Morales
has used and abused that office. We get to have
the conversation about how people like Mike Brawn and Todd
Roketa and Micah beck With and Daniel Elliott and Alista
Shalla and Rod Bray and Todd Houston.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Who know exactly who that guy is.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
They know exactly what Diego is, They know exactly what
a dirty, rotten, corrupt, unethical person he is.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They've done nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Why because they're getting a slice of the pie.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
The money that touches Diego touches everybody else, and they
can't lose the office, the office, the politics is always
more important to these people than doing what's right. And
so with bo buy, for the first time in a
long time, the Democrats will have a candidate who won
will be able to raise the money necessary.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And Diego may not want to tell who paid for India.
The buyes are gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I have no doubt the buys are gonna find out
who paid for that trip to India and a whole
bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Okay, well, they've got the money to do this. There
are some other candidates running for Secretary of State. You
have blithe Potter, who is also in the military, so
that's a wash.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
She's running on the Democrat side.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
She is running on the Democrat side. And one thing
that she has been pointing out, she's really trying to
grow her social media base right now, because I don't
know if she has all the money in the reserves
to fight along the lines that Bobi has. But she
has been saying already that bo Bie is she's calling
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into question his residency. Does he actually live here? Is
he a hoosier? And something else that people are already
pointing out is that the audio that we played, the
video that Bobai released to announces run, there's no disclaimer
on that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, okay, so first of all, people have got to
think of this in a broad picture right by the
way we did the math, all we got to do.
If you take the twenty twenty two Secretary of States race,
because desney Well is about a bat of a candidate
you could possibly be. So Diego's not going to do
any better than you know. That's the baseline, right, And
Diego's only gotten more exposed since then. He won by
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two hundred and fifty thousand votes, which means my little
pet project for the next year, Casey is going to
figure out how to take one hundred and twenty five
thousand people and convince them to change change their mind. Now,
you got to think of this in the broader picture,
which is if you will re elect Diego Morales. You
are saying if you vote for him, if you vote
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for Diego Morales and you put him back in office.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You're saying it's okay.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You're saying all of it's fine, the corruption, the unethical behavior,
the lies, the deceit, and this guy he sucks at
his job anyway, Like, don't you have to stand up
for yourself at some point. I'm not saying I've talked
to Bobai a little bit and he seems like a
very nice guy, but I'm not in love with the guy.
I know what you're probably getting into, but gosh, Darna,
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at some point, don't you have to say enough is
enough with this Republican corruption. It's all a part of
the same disease Casey Diego, the IEDC, all of this stuff.
It comes from the same feeling of arrogance and invincibility,
because the Republicans believe no matter how much they abuse you,
no matter how much crap they shove into your face,
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you will keep rolling over and saying, give me more
of it. This will be the time I really want,
I really want the bow by Diego Morales campaign. Look,
I'd be fine if David Shelton wends he's a nice
guy do a good job of the office. But this
is such a bigger conversation. When does it stop? When
do we stop telling these Republicans this behavior is okay?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, this make the party start sinking more money into
Diego Morales now that they think he might have a
legitimate challenger. I mean, with buy you've got the name
recognition or is that name recognition going to turn people
off because it seems very dynastic.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, but okay, so this was I saw this post
and by the way, the mental gymnastics people are doing
now to in their mind start processing how do I
support Diego. It's funny because some persons said something about abortion,
and I said, okay, I'll take the bait on that.
What does the Secretary of State have to do with abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
The question was, you say you're going to vote for
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Diego because of abortion. What has Diego done on abortion?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Oh so nothing. And this will be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It'll be a fun exercise for our show the next
year to see these people twist themselves into mental pretzels
to condone voting for what they know is corrupt, unethical,
already rotten behavior. And and uh, you're gonna get this
now because he looked he being bo Bay. He looks
straight out of Central Casting. He's got the pedigree, he's
(20:10):
got the resume. And if for no other reason, wouldn't
it be fun to just let a Democrat open the
doors to the Secretary of State's office so we can see.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Don't you want to know?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Don't you want to know, the answers to all these
things about how corrupt and rotten the Republicans.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Are, who paid for the trip to India? Will bo
By find out?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So anyway, I think this is gonna be fascinating. It
is cool wit debate.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well that that'll be the uh that that'll we'll see
if because Diego refused last time, because there is no
defense of Diego and he knows if he has to
get on a stage and answer for India and and
Hungary and was it Vancouver and the car and the
brother in law and you know, all those all those things,
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but that's not going to go very well for him.
So at least now we've got a ballgame. Can the
Democrats get their act together and find like individuals to
run on a ticket with this guy, because look, if
you put a bunch of these Destiny Wells styled nut
jobs around him, you're going to drag him down. You
got to get even if they just sit in the
shadows and say nothing, you got to get a slate
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full of people who can focus on the issues.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
They can talk about one.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Thing, and that is competency in government and the corruption
of the Republicans the past ten to fifteen years that
should be the whole campaign.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So we've been mentioning that Dave Shelton is running, and
you've got Diego Morales running, Jamie Rittenaur is running, and
also bo Bie blithe Potter, and did you know there's
a libertarian.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Running as Lori Shillings is her name? That's right, Yeah,
Lori Shillings.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Who knew the Secretary of State was such a popular
position to run for it?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well, Diego has proven it's a pretty big You can
have a lot of fun with other people's money.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Apparently you can do a lot of traveling on someone
else's dime. It is Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So we thought for people who've been out working and
living life today, we might reset just kind of everything
that we now know. There have been some big updates
in the Mark Sanchez case. Ryan Meers, the Marion County Prosecutor,
had a press conference just literally thirty minutes ago and
they have the big news is they have elevated one
(22:32):
of the charges from a misdemeanor to a felony.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
So the initial charges included three misdemeanors battery with injury,
unlawful entry of a motor vehicle, and then public intoxication,
but a felony charge felony battery was added after the
investigators confirmed the seriousness of the victim's injury. That from
the Marion County Prosecutor Ryan meres So.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Then it sparks sort of the broader conversation because Ryan
Hedrick was with us from the WBC newsroom. He spent
the entire weekend digging into this, got a lot of
information before anybody else did, did a lot of door
to door interviews in the area in which the altercation occurred.
And you when he was telling that story about that
(23:14):
Sanchez allegedly said the report came in that he had
been shot. You got to wonder where that miscommunication came.
Did it come from him? But it sparks this broader
conversation about what was going on with this guy, if
indeed he was that inebriated, as the allegations have come
forth thus far, that he gets into this rage filled
(23:40):
position where he's fighting some sixty nine year old guy
over a parking spot, as Ryan Meure's I believe it
was a Meer said in the press conference today, dude,
you're a former college football great, you had a long
career in the NFL. Sure you're known for something goofy,
but you made a gajillion dollars, got a beautiful wife.
I don't think they hav any kids, but your whole
(24:02):
job knows you go talk about football like what is
going on where you have if indeed the facts match
with the prosecutor and the impd have put forth thus far?
Do you have so little self control that you're in
town to announce a football game and this is how
you're spending your time.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, he was in Indianapolis as part of the Fox
Sports broadcast team for the Raiders Colt game, and obviously
due to the incident, he didn't participate in the broadcast.
When did he get into town? Was it that Friday?
And how long had he been participating in adult libations
to get to that point? And I'm really disappointed in
(24:41):
the broadcast. You know, I like Brady Quinn, but this
is what they said.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Man, when you welcome you to Indianapolis, Cindiana as the
Las Vegas Raiders visits the Colts, thank you for being
with us and for tuning in on Chris Myers along
with Brady who is stepping in for Mark Sanchez, and
obviously we all want to send out our thoughts and
prayers to Mark and those involved in Friday's incident as
(25:10):
we get ready for today's game.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You had a day and a half to come up
with something to say, and that's what they came up with.
That is so insulting. And it sort of goes back
to the segment we did just just a few minutes
ago about why the Republicans in the state behave the
way they do because they feel entitled to it now
and I'm not saying this is exactly what was going on,
(25:33):
but a lot of times when you're i mean, look,
this guy had everything in life, right, great looking guy,
great athlete, lots of money, like a lot of sometimes
life just comes easy to some people. And when you
get that, you don't not to say it didn't work hard,
not to say he didn't put the time in. But
(25:53):
sometimes when you feel you're entitled to something or you've
always had something, you don't feel like you have to
work for it anymore, or that you get special privileges,
or you don't behave in a manner that's you know, correct,
right versus people who have had to earn things. And
so it comes back to the conversation about elections in
(26:14):
the state. Republican street use a voter like garbage because
they believe they're entitled to your vote. Now they'll tell you,
they won't use that exact word, but they'll lay it
out to you.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
It is very much like a do you know who
I am? Sort of situation. Sure, that's kind of the
vibe that it gives off. Well, now with the felony charge,
the case is not going to move to a major
felony court, and if convicted, Sanchez could face one to
six years in prison. He's scheduled to appear in court
on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You you covered lifestyle and the stuff for years, so
you know it's better than I would. And I know
this guy's not Taylor Swift, but doesn't he have people.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Right to look out for him.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Like or you know, you're, hey, I'm going on this
trip or doing the ballgame. You know, I got the
cameramen and all my people that are like, how how
does a guy who is in the public light to
get that allegedly inepriated.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And nobody stopped him?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, And they're like, dude, you gotta go home.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Nobody stay. That's enough for him.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know, we're out of here, because it's like he's.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Getting nod to the bartender water from now on.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, he's I mean, he's a he's a known quantity
and he you know, he looks straight out of Central Casting.
It's not like you're gonna he's gonna blend in if
he goes somewhere. That would be what I'd be fascinated
to know is how did it get to that point?
And at his age, He's thirty eight or thirty nine
years old, Like, come on, man, you're not a twenty
two year old kid anymore. You're a grown ass adult.
(27:34):
You had an entire life in the NFL. How are
how why are you still doing this right?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do those guys travel alone? Do they just put him
on a plane and said, okay, we need you an indy.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well that's what I'm to do the game. That's what
I'm curious to know.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
And you know, I thought they typically showed up right
before the game.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No, they go in there because they interviewed the team
and the coaches the day, you know, a couple of
days before, you know, get things whatever. I just look
at it from like my perspective, where I say to myself,
you know, if I go out, I will have like
usually one drink, maybe two, that's it. But a long
period in between when I leave or go somewhere or whatever,
(28:14):
because I'm super cognizant of it. Took me all this
time to get here, am I. I'm not gonna give
it away or do something stupid something all these years
of toiling and hard work and everything else I got.
You got to be super cognizant of that, which is
why very rarely I will on occasion, but very not
very often, that I drink outside my home anymore, just
(28:37):
because it's like the risk is not worth there is
no reward. There is no reward, but the risk is
And you just wonder what that guy, dude, you have,
you have money to lose.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's such as a career, it's your fortune. You're You're like,
what the heck happened with this guy? That he got
to that point?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that in one night, all of that's gone, because well,
what does Fox do now? At this point? I mean,
clearly he's off the broadcast team.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean he's he's done, and depending on what
comes out about this. He may be like done done
working at a Wendy's done, because I'm sure there's going
to be some sort of or imagine there's going to
be some sort of civil.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Regation on the victims as well.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So, yeah, you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is
ninety three w ib C.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't even know. Don't wow me this count.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
If any of this matters.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Casey have a profession, Oh, sitting on toilets public time?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
They're so gross?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Do you ever wipe it off?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Because that to me seems even grosser.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, I'd rather just go in my pants.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
There's a new study that came out and the question
was are public toilet seats safe to sit on? And
you'll be surprised by the results. The answer is, actually, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
They are. They are safe to sit on. They are
safe to sit on.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
However, the handles, the taps, the flush lever, those have
more germs on them than the actual toilet seat.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Okay, so I looked into this years ago. Not gonna
say why, but I looked into this years ago, and
you're correct. There are certain things that can linger on
a toilet seat, but a lot of the things that
people are afraid of that they don't like once they're
airborne or whatever. You're done, right, So the things. But
(30:57):
and I won't get into the intricacies of the things
that I learned that do remain a on a toilet seat.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
But here's your imagination.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, it is gross though, like OCD, I just know,
I like, I can't right, I gotta hold.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It, can't do it? Okay, So what about hovering? This
study said that you should actually skip hovering. What is
you know, hovering over the toilet? Oh, you don't actually
put your cheeks on the on the surface, right, They
say you got to skip hovering because that actually increases
the splatter and leaves the seat dirtier.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
For the next person. Yeah, but what about you?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Uh, well, the what do they call it, the flume
that comes up with the flush.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
There's a lot of germs that come with that. So
you're supposed to actually close the toilet seat before you
have flush. I don't know. It seems to me like
a lot of rest areas, public restrooms, they don't have
a toilet cover you know that goes on the seat.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Wait, wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
So you can't close the toilet.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, okay, I
see what you're I see what you're saying. Well, I mean,
it's an emergency thing right now, think about theoretically arrest
or you can just.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Go in the woods. Well you could.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
The thing that I just like about the rest area
is that it has that electronic sensor on the wall
behind you. So sometimes if you go to sit or hover,
it'll flush when you haven't even gone yet, like you're
just getting into position, and then it flushes and you
get that missed feeling and apparently, according to this study,
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that's filled with germs.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, so is this this way for women? Like when
you're in a stall, because men have two options, right,
you can stand up or sit down. I always feel
very awkward when I am in the men's restroom and
there's somebody in the stall next to me, and I
know what they're doing in there.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know what. But if it's an emergency, you just
got a grin and Barrett.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Right, Well, but for women, guys, you don't know. For
women though, because they have they only have one option.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
You're always going to see the shoes facing the same direction.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right, and so when I'm in that men's restroom, and
I hate this because there's only nine people that work
in our building. Now I basically know who it is
from the moment I'm in there. There used to be
a time here at MS where there were so many
people you didn't know who it was, so you could
do it somewhat in anonymity. But now yeah, I know
based on basically whose shoes it are.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It is who it is.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And then I feel super awkward that they probably know
based on who my shoes are. And I'm in there,
and then I got to see them after.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
It's like a.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's like a an intimate encounter right where you know,
you see the person that you want, well you know
where it's like.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Then you got to see them out, and about was, well,
that's awkward.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
How you feeling a little lighter? Well that's why you
got to go downstairs to the private, private bathroom. See,
now I don't have that big of a problem because
there are far less women who.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Are on the floor. Literally, there's you, Terry, John.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Johanna, and we work opposite shifts, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And Terry's only here sporadically, Yeah, here all day every day,
so I've.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Got a luxurious bathroom all to myself.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
There's a woman who works I think she's with one
of the Spanish stations that is an executive type, that's
down down the hall there. I don't know if you've
ever had to encounter her.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
We've passed each other, but yeah, so you don't really now.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I do go if I ever in the rare occasion
I have to, the MS gym is still open, and
so I will run down there, and usually in the
morning there's nobody down there, so that's a very quick How.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Clean is the men's bathroom because the ladies bathroom has
flowers and so yeah, very.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Clean, that's it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But I see, I think that's because the MS executive
people still use the gym on the seventh floor. MAS
still exists with the executive corporate people because it's still
a thing and owns various properties, and so I think
that's why they're so adamant about cleaning that bathroom down
there on a regular basis. By the way, you'll love this,
there has been a hair dryer down there since before
(35:07):
COVID and it's still there.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It's still there.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Somebody took a shower.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And my great hope.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it's like somebody took a shower before COVID and
then that person must have never come back. And for
five going on six years now, there has been a
assume it's still down there. There is a hair dryer
in the men's gym bathroom, and I will my great
hope is that when we all leave for the last
(35:33):
time and then over to our new video, it will
still be there. Yeah, And when they tear this thing
down or do whatever they're going to do, however, it's
going to be repurposed that the hair dryer will be
the last thing in the rubble.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It'll that poor little hair dryer.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Speaking of blow dryers, so when you wash your hands
in a public restroom, they have the blower. Yeah, it's
cleaner apparently to use paper towel because the blower.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Is oh, you're very nervou Yeah. I get game blowing the.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Drums around and those tiny droplets. I guess they can
travel up to two meters in the air. How far
is two meters? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
We're America. We work in feet, right, we work in centimeters.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
So two meters equals well, too far. The one thing
that you definitely have to clean in the bathroom, especially
a public restroom. Is the baby changing table? Oh yeah,
you have to wipe that down before you put the baby.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Have a real problem change in my baby in public view? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I know. Have you ever seen who was it? It
was John Mullaney or some comedian was talking about how
they used to do like drugs off the baby changing cable.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Look, look, can we just as we wrap this up,
just agree anything you're doing related to some level of
being exposed in public, probably not.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Clean, Probably not wash your hands at least up to
twenty seconds. Please, all right, enough bathroom talk for us.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It's time to go.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Thank you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for
listening today. This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety
three WYBC.
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