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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, great news, Casey, Oh yeah, I know you're going
to be so pumped up about this.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay are you? Are you holding onto your chair with
both hands?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am now ted Cruz is pondering another run for president.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
That's great news, is it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Am?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I supposed to be excited about this. Didn't you do
that back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Twenty sixteen, Well that was his year, right, you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Know we were supposed to be as here he was wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, we were talking about this during the break.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's fascinating how short the window actually really is for
these politicians, Like if you're and obviously we think it's
super bizarre, but there are people who their whole life
evolves around being in politics and elevating themselves in politics.
And for so many of these people, and look, in
a country of three hundred and thirty plus million people,
there's a monumental amount of narcissism involved to believe you
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can run it better than anybody else. Right, and I'm
at both parties, you know, to think of all these people,
I could do this better than anybody else. But one
of the things about these politicians, especially these people who
elevate to the tippy top, is there's a real finite
window for you to strike, and it takes a lot
of luck, you know, a lot of the you know, planets,
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the ligne, in God's will, God's favor to.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
For it all to work together.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because we were talking about Evan By is a great example.
Evan By was on this trajectory, especially after he became
a United States senator. Hey, this guy's got president written
all over him. He's at the very least got vice president.
I mean he is like straight out of Central casting
for a vice president. He comes from a you know,
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a red state. He's non offensive, good looking guy. And
every time from like two thousand through really kind of Hillary,
his name always surfaced as one of the finalists, one
of the people under consideration, and he never even got
the call to run as a vice president. And by
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political standards, he kind of did everything right. And so
it shows you. Ted Cruz twenty sixteen was supposed to
be his thing. He was the fire brand on the right.
The right's done with the nominating moderates. We'd lost to Romney, Well,
Romney McCain. We're done with it. We're no more bushes. Hey,
Ted Cruise is articulate, he's got all the bona fides,
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and the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Trump something obliterates the guy, and now nobody even talks
about Ted Cruise.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's interesting you said twenty sixteen, because that's the same
time that the Great State of Indiana showed Evan by
the door.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, and it is when Todd Young beat him for Senate.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, you think about that twenty sixteen before, I mean,
Trump had been involved, but outside of me. And this
is kind of one of the reasons I got on
the radar of this place was I got the interview
with Trump. But I was also one of the few
people in the media who was saying from the beginning
he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Everybody was laughing at him a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I knew the moment he came off that escalator and
that speech he gave us that it's gonna be a
Republican nominee for president, and I thought he would win
the presidency. I remember doing an event after the first
debate with the Indie Star. They had several like they
were mostly like establishment politicos, and they were like, well,
let's just piss these people off as much as a
candle's invite rob and everybody watches the debate and they're
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live streaming and commentary, and after the debate between Trump
and Hillary, they go to everybody about what do you think?
And all these Republican establishment people are they're laughing, and
you know, oh, it was horrible for Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's all Hillary, it's all over. He couldn't anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And they get to me and I was the one
person he said Trump won, and they like people just
start laughing at me. And I said, you guys are
thinking about this all the wrong way. Donald Trump is
talking to a very specific group of people. He's not
talking to the nation. He's talking to people in Pittsburgh,
and he's talking to people outside of Detroit and Milwaukee.
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And I said, you watch and what happened. And my
point in all of this is you think about the
Republicans who started that campaign in twenty fifteen. You had
legit rocks, traditional Republican rock stars Rubio and Cruz and
Ran Paul, and you're like, what a dream team of
people we have to choose from. Trump swoops in just
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destroys all of them. And so now there is this
real question, especially if Trump doesn't get it together in
terms of approval rating and how he's viewed going out
the door. Who is the next torch bearer of the
Republican Party? Because if Trump's not popular, it doesn't bode
well for Vance A Ruby JD.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Right, a lot of people are saying, well, obviously it's
going to be Jade Vance.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It may not be the case.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So Cruz is reportedly working to differentiate himself as a candidate,
kind of like in a post Trump era. Right, He's
trying to position himself just a little bit differently. He
opposed the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Show, and he faced
him backlash because of that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But is that all part of his game play?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He still he still still wants to be a leader
of the GOP, just not It's like he's trying.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
To thread that needle, you know, like I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Going to be faithful and honest with Trump, but at
the same time, I'm a different guy. He's trying to
say that he's this intellectual leader.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So, like the Telegraph has an article out about this
today and in him laying the groundwork running for president.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The problem again, Ken, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The problem for a Ted Cruise or really for any politician,
especially in the modern Twitter twenty four to seven media
world we live in. It's very hard to reinvent yourself
because the Internet and the memories are forever, which is
why when so many of these politicians can't do it
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or come off ridiculous, and they don't succeed because you
never really do know the real them because they're shape shifters.
They always try to fit into whatever box is most
politically expedient in the moment. And for a Ted Cruz,
after years of being one thing, which I would hope
he was that because that's what he was, it's going
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to be hard for you to reinvent yourself or go no,
look at this version of me rather than the twenty
plus your political history.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
People have to look at it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, you're talking about the shape shifting. I mean you
remember when Trump labeled him as lion Ted.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Lion Ted puts the Bible up, Hi tells the truth,
puts the Bible Downy lines called line Ted. That crowd
in Indianapolis erupted. He did that at the fairgrounds and
the people went crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Of course, Cruz called Trump a sniveling coward, right, but
now Cruz has been a defender of Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
His dad might have.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Killed Kennedy, don't know, didn't say it happened.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm saying it could have happened, don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So he's really trying to balance this loyalty with Trump
but also appealing to more of a traditional conservative. He's
trying to thread that needle so much. And there's a
there's of people now that are I voted for Trump
three times, but now they're saying, you know, they're burning
the red hat, they're giving up on MAGA, although there's
still conservative So is that who Cruse is trying to
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talk to.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, I'd think you've got to wait to see what
the mid term election in the direction of the country
looks like, because a strong Trump makes it much harder.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The problem for all these.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
People is they've given into Trump so often they can't
run as outsiders even if they're not in the Trump orbit.
So many of these people Cruise included, have become basically
subservient to Trump and just carried his talking points even
though you know they don't agree with a bunch of
them that if Trump is unpopular, it's going to be
very hard to get out of it and go and
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not me and present yourself as some sort of outsider.
You know, when you really saw the true colors of
a Ted cruise. And there are certain moments for me
in the Robkendall origin story, how did you become the
way that you are?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Why are you like that?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Different things?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's a collection of things, but there are certain things
that really stood out to me that just like hit
me between the eyes and how phony these politicians are.
When Ted Cruz gave his speech at the Republican National
Convention in twenty sixteen, everybody knew he hated Trump. I mean,
he alluded that his dad killed Kennedy for crying out loud, right,
nobody would blame you. But he gets up there and
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then it comes time to make the cell one way
or another, and he settles on vote your conscience.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I was like, you are just like the rest
of these people.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You don't have the bollular area to say what you think,
and everybody knows what you think because you're worried about
being judged and how it's going to affect your political career. So,
mister Johnny tough guy, really is no different than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Vote my conscience? What is that the leadership is that?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, that's him trying to thread the news exactly that's
still wants to be in good standing and if there's
a cabinet position to please still get that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's why I find it like to bring this thing
full circle because all the commentary and the Secretary of
States trace oh oh bow bye, the family, the legacy
career want to be career politician.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Diego ran for Congress and lost.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He desperately wanted to be in Congress, actually wanted to
be Secretary of State first. Then he found out Connie
Lawson wasn't quitting like he thought she was going to,
and he was gonna get his ass kicked. So he
technically explored running for and ran for one of them
two things, and then ran for secretary of State. He
is the want to be career politician. He worked in
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politics much of his adult life in this country, he
is that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And yet that's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
My point in all this is the bow bye stuff
is all fair criticism. But how willfully and naively we
ignore whatever side we're on when the when our side
is doing the exact same thing. And this is why
we're just a country run by career politicians who do
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or say whatever is politically expeeding in the moment, Because
that's what we have told them, we will accept how.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Many times is too much running for president.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Because you've got you know, Ted Cruz obviously did it,
and Marco Rubio did it as well. But it's interesting
because when you're the heir apparent seems to be JD. Vance,
but when you're inside the Beltway you hear more rumblings
about it being Marco Rubio. Actually who is more impressive
to people?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, okay, so like let's think out loud here, like
he ran already well Ted Cruz. Yeah, but I'm trying
to think this through. In the like post World War
Two era, you had Nixon who ran and law He
actually won the presidency in nineteen sixty but was not
declared the president. So Nixon did it, made the comeback.
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Let's see, Reagan ran in seventy six to challenge Ford
and lost, but that was sort of like Hairby knew
Reagan was the better guy. We can't go against the
sitting president of the United States. You had I'm trying
to think of people who want Bush technically ran against Reagan. Well,
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Bush ran against Reagan in eighty but there was eight
years in between it and he was the vice president. Clinton
ran once Bush ran once, Obama ran once, Trump ran once,
Biden ran three times. So it's a mixed bag, right,
it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
On are you?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think it's more or less you got to give
it time. I think that's sort of the lesson.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Nixon tried to become governor Californian loss, Bush was the
vice president. Biden was a huge gap between plagiarisms and
running for president. So I think if you eight years
is probably what it'd be. Twelve years, right?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Is that right? My I'm trying to do math on
the fly. It'll be twelve years.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If Rubio were to run or Cruz runs again, they'd
be twelve years between the last time they ran for president.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
How old do you think Ted Cruz is?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
He has got to be in his late He was
young when he got elected, but he's been let's see,
he's been there since twenty ten, right, so he was
in his mid forties. I'll say prices right, rules would
go over all, right, keV, I'll let you go first.
How old do you think Ted Cruz is? I'll let
you have first, stab at it. I got my number.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think he's fifty six.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I was going to go with him being fifty five,
But I bet Kevin is probably right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What's the number you're both over?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
He's fifty four? WHOA December twenty second, nineteen seven.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So he was like barely forty years old when he
was elected US senator, right Texas.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeahs, so he and he probably ran on his youth then,
and they're still there.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They're always still there paratively.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He is young. It is Kendallly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Big headline for the Indie Star Conflicts, Confusion and Secrecy.
Six takeaways from the IDC Audit. Oh, Kayla Dwyer, Hailey Colombo,
friends of our program on the story there, and this
gives us an opportunity to remind you that I believe
we're on day seven since the IEDC Audit Indian Economic
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Development Corporation Audit was released, in which it revealed thirty
three zero conflicts of interest. Yes, hundreds of millions of
dollars of your money that went out the door, much
of it to companies, organizations or friends of people making
the decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
On where the money was going.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Much of it spent on trips for state officials appointed
and elected and their family members foreign trips, people to
sit on camels in front of pyramids, tickets to sporting events.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
A massive amount.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
A reasonable person would come to the conclusion that there
was a massive amount of abuse and corruption involved in
our money being disseminated without any clear return on investment
to us as taxpayers.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, I still ask the question, how did Eric Holcomb
sitting on a camel help me?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It didn't. It helped him.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It is also how does a guy who was governor
of the state of Indiana end up with a sprawling
I believe it's twenty plus acres of beautiful land on
the north side of Brownsburg and a fabulous house to
go with it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
How does that person afford that he's really good with mine? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Sure, yes, on his governor salary. Yes, absolutely, Casey, no
doubt about that whatsoever. But the point is we're seven
days on on this and other than one guy, the
Tesla guy, what's his name, Jake Teshka Teshka, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I don't know why I always do that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think I'm giving him the respect and decency he
gives the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think that's why I do that. Case, I think
I just answered my question.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I know you had a fight with him at one point,
but I do think he's more conservative than some of them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, his response was, we need to what something shore
up the internal processes. Wasn't that his quote or something
to that effect. So hundreds of millions of dollars, well,
I mean it disappears a strong word because we know
where it went, but no clear benefit out of much
of it, and we know thirty conflicts of interest existed.
In your response, we needed to do what shore up
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internal processes? That's mister representative, what you want to do.
Now we give him credit. He's one of the few
people who said a damn word about this. And so
you have one of the biggest stories, what should be
one of the biggest stories in the history of this state.
Massive abuse of taxpayer money, hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Probably this audit was just three years, twenty two to
twenty four. If you extrapolate it over the life of
the ADC, you're probably at billions of dollars of bad
behavior with public money, and hardly any of these reps
or senators will say anything.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yep about it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Some of the findings were referred to the Office of
Inspector General, which seeks out waste, fraud, and abuse. It'd
be interesting to see what their report comes out with
At Delaney and Senator Fatty Cadora, they both said that
they want the Attorney General to be involved and they
want legislative hearings.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You've got the Senate President Rod Bray.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
He said that legislature will evaluate possible actions. I'm guessing
they're going to wait to see if anything happens with
the OIG.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The one that gets me more than anyone, though, is
the Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With, who ran on this
all over the state, on what a corrupt, rotten, underhanded
organization the IEDC IS has yet to say a word
on any of this. He's the first politician in the
history of ever Casey to be proven exactly right about
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something and refused to point it out.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He's not taking his victory lap.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He's not taking anything. So the question has to be asked,
what in the world happened to Micah beck With. This
is literally the stuff he ran on. He ran on
the idea of checks and balances, he ran on the
idea of exposing who these people are and holding them
to account, and then on one of his major issues
that he talked about all across the state. He gets
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proven exactly right and not a peep.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And he's quiet about it, not.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
A word, nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
He's basically in line with the governor on this, which
is he's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The cop on South Park. Okay, move along, nothing to see.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And of course they're mad at me now for pointing
this out that he won't say a word. But how
can a guy who can't sprint to the nearest camera
fast enough have been proven totally correct on what these people.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Are and he said nothing. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Look, I know he's worried about some things that are
going on. I know he's worried no matter what he
says publicly about some things that are transpiring. I know
he feels he's got to be totally subservient to Braun
now because he foolishly believes Braun can and will protect him,
Which is why after they were part of the delete
tweet club all here, whoever is running the Twitter account
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that date could come up with was same when Braun
clapped back at Ryan Mears. Same, well, same you deleted
the tweet like Braun or same you agree with Braun's
new tweet, don't know, but everyone should be asking themselves.
Have you ever heard of a politician ever, especially when
who craves the limelight. This is how the IEDC stuff runs. Apology,
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do craves attention like Micah? And he's proven exactly right
and not a word about it for seven days?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He should take the win.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's too late now, I mean you've got seven days.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well he had well, I mean he did this on
property taxes too, where he went missing for four days
and then like contradicted himself and then changed his mind
the next day after people got pissed off at him
when he went on Hammer and Nigel. So what is
going on with this IEDC? This is the bigger question
that everybody needs to be asking themselves. How is this
organization that powerful that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Not a word will be said?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And other than a couple Democrats, you're not hearing anything either.
You notice that a freebie, here's the ball, tap it
in the hole, happy little tap tap taparu and even
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Won't take it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is how corrupt and rotten and underhanded this whole
thing is that none of these politicians, even the ones
who ran on it, won't say a word.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It does seem like the tentacles are law. So there
are a lot of concerns about the pay to play optics.
Did you see that nearly half of the IEDC of
IEDC Foundation donors also received contracts or tax credits, like
donate to this and you've got a contract. We touched
on that the other day. Somebody donated an undisclosed name.
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Of course, you're not allowed to know the name of
the person or entity donated twenty five hundred dollars and
then they turned around and were awarded with a million
dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, look, it's a and the reason we spend so
much time on it is it's everything we tell you
on the show about what your government is. It's a
glorified legalized money operation scheme, money laundering operations.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You spend eleven point nine million dollars on luxury travel
and entertainment on our dime, the taxpayer's dime, four point
three million dollars in flights, two point eight million dollars
of hotel, two million in event planning, one million for
travel agencies, eight hundred thousand for meals.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And it's they're all freebie's casey and all of these Politically,
and again it come back to this is telling if
you're hearing our voice right now, the IDC and the
lack of response from people in your government to this
audit of the IDC.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
The facts aren't in dispute.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
We're giving you the facts, the information from the forensic audit,
and all of these politically motivated people. And yet there's
a freebee right here for someone, for anyone to raise
their hand and say, I will lead on this, I
will clean this up, I will keep this at the forefront.
I will talk about this, including a guy who got
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elected to the second highest office.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
In the state doing it, and nobody says anything.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, Bron did say that his intent was to restructure
and call for greater transparency.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So perhaps they're waiting on marching orders.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I thought he said we were moving on. Didn't he
say we were moving on.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
That too, We're moving on to greater transparency. You're listening
to Kendall and Casey on night THIBC.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Storage you choose what a couple.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
What's going on with Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know. Your husband told me last night he
was retiring.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That was the big speculation, right, But now people are
saying no, maybe not.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So do you remember back in.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Can we go back for a second, okay, because I
need you relay a message to your husband. Okay, sure,
he's probably listen. If he's going to change his mind
on something big, you need to know. He's got to
tell me he changed his mind because he and I
were on the same wavelength. I thought, and then you
told me last night he had a change of heart.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, when you talked to him, he was thinking it
was Lebron James retiring. By the time we went to bed,
he said, I don't know if that's what you tell.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Him in the future, even if it's twelve thirty in
the morning, He's got to text me, right because.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You wake up every morning a quarter after three, so
you would see that information exactly before the sun came up.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So you're listening. What are they talking about? So Lebron
James is entering his twenty third season in the NBA.
Now the great debate going on now is is he
the greatest player of all time? I think the consensus
one most people is it's Michael Jordan. But I know
there are some big Lebron fans who think it's him.
Any of us with an IQBO of seven say it's
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Michael Jordan. So there's a real, you know, back and
forth on this. He set all the you know, the
scoring record, et cetera. There's nothing he's got left to prove.
He was the best at going to somebody else's team
and winning a championship. Nobody did that better than Lebron.
But he said, I got some big announcement coming up. Well, yeah,
and nobody knows what it is. And then the whole
thing started. Well, he's it's going to be announcement, he's
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going to retire. But then people are because it was like, okay,
if let me, let me go back here. When he
left the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is when the stain started
on Lebron, he left the Cleveland Cavaliers to go to
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He did this big the.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Decision right ESPN.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Nobody knew what he was going to say.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's a seventy five minutes special. Yes, yes, it aired
in twenty ten for him to.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Say one sentence, I'm going to the Miami Heat, right right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then he teased basically, it's like the big announcement
two point zero or whatever they were called. Second decision,
Thank you, Yes, and so your husband and I were
talking because we were going, he's going to retire, and
prims like he wouldn't retire right before the season starts
because they're the preseason games are starting. I don't think
he would do that. But then your husband was like,
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Jim said, well, he's going to look horrible if it's
some just I'm going to doing something with Amazon or
you know, whatever it might be. And I said, you
know what, Jim, You're right, Yeah, he's gonna look like
a complete idiot if he doesn't. I'll go with you,
he's going to retire. And then you told me changed
just Jim changed.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
His he was questioning it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, Lebron had expressed regret about the presentation of the
first the decision back in twenty ten, so imagine the
regret he would have for the second decision.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
If he's not announcing his retirement.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
When is it? When's it come out?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think if they already released the ad and it
is part of the Hennessy partnership, they were supposed to
do it at noon today, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah? So he did. He did not retire, So he
is he is? He done it twice?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's burned everybody. Well and well, I guess he didn't
burn people the first time. He just he screwed the
people in Cleveland. That's only people he burned.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Everybody was thinking maybe this was tied to Amazon, because
he's got a business partnership with Amazon.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So what is it, Kevin? What did he announce? So
it was just a video. It was a part of
his ad partnership with Hennessy.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh, people are going to be so mad about this.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, just it just came down. It leaked out early.
It was supposed to be new, and you're right, and
it came out early. While we were doing this final
hour of the.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Week, he said, another seventy five minute special.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think it's just sun It's just like a thirty
second commercial.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
No, No, I think it's just like a like he's
just doing some thing with Hennessy.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Okay, it's like a minute long ad on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, it's an ad.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're Vans are going to be so bummed, aboples, because
they were really hoping for something a little bit more
meaningful than just a brand partner show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
This is why I first straight with your husban been
because this is where I was it was gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then he talked me out of it, and I
woke up.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All this morning and Okay, Jim, nobody knows basketball Jim,
he's gonna retire.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And he changed his mind. Fine, you gotta tell me.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah he did. He before we went to bed last night.
He said, yeah, No, I don't think it's a retirement.
I think it's gonna be something else. So I'm sorry
that information was not related to you. From from now on,
I'll bring you into the conversation. We're gonna even at bedtime.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
People are gonna hate him over this, aren't they. I mean,
he's like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Gonna be really disappointed by that because they built it
up like there's a second decision.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, you're the media. You're the media person here. That
sounds funny to say, because we're both technically media, but
you're you understand pop culture and media and and and
and advertising. And I get that. There's like he got
a ton of extra publicity for it. But does it
does it anger people to the problem turning people the product?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, they could turn people off to it. I think
that'll that'll go away, though, because if you're a super
fan of lebron, which I am not, you're gonna if
he says, go buy this product. You might Okay, I'll
give it a shot, even if he at least wants
to see if I Yeah, yeah, there's going to be
some people that are disappointed about that.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Sorry, what a bummer.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
This is why you don't let your friends talk you
into things. Because I was right to just trust my instinct.
And then my friend who changed his mind didn't even
tell me.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
But but kudos to Kevin for having the information.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Good job.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's some quick reasons Kevin used the internet. Good job, Kevin.
keV was like, I bet that leaked out. Let me
look and see what it was.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, all right, it is Kendally Casey on ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Come take me.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Time.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We'll tell that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Let's do it from.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
We don Okay, look, I know this is sort of
a reoccurring theme on our program.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, but it sucks to drive to work every day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I left early today and I was so proud of myself.
I'm like, oh, this is great. I'm gonna get there.
I'm gonna have lots of time. And then I pull
onto Washington and right away I was stopped. First of all,
a big cement truck pulled out in front of me.
No big deal, he's on his way to work. But
they move a little bit slower, you know. But the
thing was I could not pass them because there's like
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a maze.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You have to go through on Washington Again.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
It was clear for like three days when you could
actually move at a decent pace.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Now they're back to lane restrictions.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So basically the mayor decided you had too much happiness
in your life being able to have a clear path
to work.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I would have put a stop to that right now.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Like if you don't drive, you're hearing our voice right now,
and you don't drive in the Greater Downtown area, you
can't begin to appreciate how awful. It's so frustrating, and
it's like everywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Sometimes I feel like maybe I mean, we try, but
you can't emphasize it's everywhere. Everything is shut down or delayed,
like every point of entry basically to the Greater Downtown area.
You cannot go a desired route. You have to maneuver
in another fashion. And you know I was telling you
before when on air I said there was a great
(29:24):
Nintendo game that I played as a kid.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It was called.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Paper Boy, and the whole premise of paper Boy was
you had to get the papers on the doorstep.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You were a little kid on a bike, and there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Were all of these things that would get in your
way to try to stop you, and you'd have to
ride the bike around the things. And that's basically what
the city has become is a real life game of
paper Boy, only I'm in a large automobile and and
this isn't a game, it's my life and like and
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for you, I bet it's just especially frustrating because the
one benefit bit of where you chose to live was
I'm very close to my job, right.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It should not be taking me this long to get
into work every morning. It's why I chose to live
in downtown Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know, Tony mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I know we got into earlier when we're talking about
the city pass and the budget, and he's right about this.
In the sense of what are we trying to be
as a city. There is no clear vision vision of that.
And whether it's you who literally lives right outside of
the greater downtown area, you're getting screwed. Whether it's me
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who has lived in the suburbs for forty years. I'm
getting screwed. I mean, my commute is a good ten
to fifteen minutes longer, and that's without the maze. This
is just because of all the bus lines and everything.
Like if everything we're operating as intended, and you just
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say to these people in charge, what are you trying
to do?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
What is going on? So there was a long line
of traffic and you could see cars turning around trying
to find alternate roots. They're like, no, I'm not going
to do this, the move of despair. Yeah, And so
finally a lot of cars got through the line and
then I was up next and guess what happened? What
the guy with the stop sign you walk right out
in front of my car. So I had to stop
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and wait for the other's lane, you know, the other
traffic win the opposite direction to have their turn through
the one section that's open.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I think the thing, I don't know if you
feel this way. One of the things that is most
frustrating to me is if they were just like major
road upgrades, where you would say, because I'm understanding of that, like.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Hey, you're filling the potholes, wonderful, right, you know, Hey.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This thing's fifty years old. We got to do whatever.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But the things that are causing the delays are things
that will be of zero, zero benefit to me. Some
stupid bus line then nobody rides anyway, or a hotel,
a tax refunded hotel, right.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Or shut down Illinois.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And it's like these things are not a benefit to
society as a collective, their bright shiny object projects that
don't in any way benefit the daily person who uses,
you know, the the common public service in the city.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I know, I know it's aggravating, and all of that
money going towards it, sure, well.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That is I've thought.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I've thought about that numerous times as I've been having
to take side roads back alleys that I think that
is what pisses me off the most, is that the
things that are causing my grief are never going to
benefit me in any shape form effact.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Right, even when it's all done, you're still going to
be frustrated because you won't even be using the bus.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's correct, hotel or many other people. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
This is all tax payer funded, right, So maybe you
should get a free night in the hotel, or at
least I should.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You should go. You should go suggest that to the mayor.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
In fact, when you get off the air today, you
should go over to the city County building and suggest
to the mayor. So I think, here, I have a
great sight.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I help pay for this. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Can this be the Casey Daniels wing of the hotel?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Absolutely, definitely right.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I don't know if you saw this article about Americans
being scammed, and this happens to me all the time.
In fact, it happened last night as I sent you
that that text about how I was being asked to
take another survey.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Now you do think that was a scam.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Actually they were.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Asking questions about Indianapolis Public schools.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So you got a link online survey link like a text, Yeah,
look here, Now do you click them?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I did last night.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
It was Jen from CS Research when it asked me
a couple of questions.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now, I'd love to take a poll, but I'm not
clicking a link from a stranger on the internet.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Sorry, Like, if you call me, I will take it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I did.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I clicked the link and it was two questions. They
asked me how likely I was to vote, and then
about Indianapolis Public schools, and it was two questions.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And I don't know if I answered the question incorrectly,
because had I answered it in a different way, maybe
there would.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Have been more questions.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But it was only two questions.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
But right now Americans are getting nine spam calls a day,
oh nine fraudulent emails and seven suspicious text messages every week,
twenty five separate scam encounters in just seven days.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Now. The spam calls, they seem to come in waves.
Do you notice that, It's like you'll get a.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Whole bunch and then they'll stop, and then they like
pick back up again.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't know why that is. Does that just me?
Or is that happened to you too?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, It's been happening to me a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
And i'd be getting the call about my house and
if I'm willing to sell, and what is my bottom
dollar willing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To sell it? Now?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I don't know if that's a scam call or just
one of these corporations that's trying to buy up property.
But I of course always elevate the asking price and
they say, is that your bottom because you know we're
going to cover the closing costs.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
For everything and any upgrades. And I always tell them, yeah,
that's the bottom line, that's it. And then they proceed
to tell me they'll call back again someday. Oh and
they never did, And well no, they do that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
The very next day, and I go through the process again.
One of these times they're gonna say yes and give
me a whole bunch more money.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, on that note, good luck on your drive home.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Oh, thanks you too, Thank you Rob, thank you, Kevin,
thank you for listening today. This is being Kendel and
Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Hey, great news, Casey, Oh yeah, I know you're going
to be so pumped up about this.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay are you? Are you holding onto your chair with
both hands?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am now ted Cruz is pondering another run for president.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
That's great news, is it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Am?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I supposed to be excited about this. Didn't you do
that back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Twenty sixteen, Well that was his year, right, you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Know we were supposed to be as here he was wrong.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, we were talking about this during the break.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's fascinating how short the window actually really is for
these politicians, Like if you're and obviously we think it's
super bizarre, but there are people who their whole life
evolves around being in politics and elevating themselves in politics.
And for so many of these people, and look, in
a country of three hundred and thirty plus million people,
there's a monumental amount of narcissism involved to believe you
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can run it better than anybody else. Right, and I'm
at both parties, you know, to think of all these people,
I could do this better than anybody else. But one
of the things about these politicians, especially these people who
elevate to the tippy top, is there's a real finite
window for you to strike, and it takes a lot
of luck, you know, a lot of the you know, planets,
(01:14):
the ligne, in God's will, God's favor to.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
For it all to work together.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because we were talking about Evan By is a great example.
Evan By was on this trajectory, especially after he became
a United States senator. Hey, this guy's got president written
all over him. He's at the very least got vice president.
I mean he is like straight out of Central casting
for a vice president. He comes from a you know,
(01:40):
a red state. He's non offensive, good looking guy. And
every time from like two thousand through really kind of Hillary,
his name always surfaced as one of the finalists, one
of the people under consideration, and he never even got
the call to run as a vice president. And by
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political standards, he kind of did everything right. And so
it shows you. Ted Cruz twenty sixteen was supposed to
be his thing. He was the fire brand on the right.
The right's done with the nominating moderates. We'd lost to Romney, Well,
Romney McCain. We're done with it. We're no more bushes. Hey,
Ted Cruise is articulate, he's got all the bona fides,
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and the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Trump something obliterates the guy, and now nobody even talks
about Ted Cruise.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's interesting you said twenty sixteen, because that's the same
time that the Great State of Indiana showed Evan by
the door.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, and it is when Todd Young beat him for Senate.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, you think about that twenty sixteen before, I mean,
Trump had been involved, but outside of me. And this
is kind of one of the reasons I got on
the radar of this place was I got the interview
with Trump. But I was also one of the few
people in the media who was saying from the beginning
he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Everybody was laughing at him a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I knew the moment he came off that escalator and
that speech he gave us that it's gonna be a
Republican nominee for president, and I thought he would win
the presidency. I remember doing an event after the first
debate with the Indie Star. They had several like they
were mostly like establishment politicos, and they were like, well,
let's just piss these people off as much as a
candle's invite rob and everybody watches the debate and they're
(03:20):
live streaming and commentary, and after the debate between Trump
and Hillary, they go to everybody about what do you think?
And all these Republican establishment people are they're laughing, and
you know, oh, it was horrible for Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's all Hillary, it's all over. He couldn't anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And they get to me and I was the one
person he said Trump won, and they like people just
start laughing at me. And I said, you guys are
thinking about this all the wrong way. Donald Trump is
talking to a very specific group of people. He's not
talking to the nation. He's talking to people in Pittsburgh,
and he's talking to people outside of Detroit and Milwaukee.
(03:54):
And I said, you watch and what happened. And my
point in all of this is you think about the
Republicans who started that campaign in twenty fifteen. You had
legit rocks, traditional Republican rock stars Rubio and Cruz and
Ran Paul, and you're like, what a dream team of
people we have to choose from. Trump swoops in just
(04:16):
destroys all of them. And so now there is this
real question, especially if Trump doesn't get it together in
terms of approval rating and how he's viewed going out
the door. Who is the next torch bearer of the
Republican Party? Because if Trump's not popular, it doesn't bode
well for Vance A Ruby JD.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Right, a lot of people are saying, well, obviously it's
going to be Jade Vance.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It may not be the case.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So Cruz is reportedly working to differentiate himself as a candidate,
kind of like in a post Trump era. Right, He's
trying to position himself just a little bit differently. He
opposed the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Show, and he faced
him backlash because of that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But is that all part of his game play?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He still he still still wants to be a leader
of the GOP, just not It's like he's trying.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
To thread that needle, you know, like I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Going to be faithful and honest with Trump, but at
the same time, I'm a different guy. He's trying to
say that he's this intellectual leader.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So, like the Telegraph has an article out about this
today and in him laying the groundwork running for president.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The problem again, Ken, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The problem for a Ted Cruise or really for any politician,
especially in the modern Twitter twenty four to seven media
world we live in. It's very hard to reinvent yourself
because the Internet and the memories are forever, which is
why when so many of these politicians can't do it
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or come off ridiculous, and they don't succeed because you
never really do know the real them because they're shape shifters.
They always try to fit into whatever box is most
politically expedient in the moment. And for a Ted Cruz,
after years of being one thing, which I would hope
he was that because that's what he was, it's going
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to be hard for you to reinvent yourself or go no,
look at this version of me rather than the twenty
plus your political history.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
People have to look at it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, you're talking about the shape shifting. I mean you
remember when Trump labeled him as lion Ted.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Lion Ted puts the Bible up, Hi tells the truth,
puts the Bible Downy lines called line Ted. That crowd
in Indianapolis erupted. He did that at the fairgrounds and
the people went crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Of course, Cruz called Trump a sniveling coward, right, but
now Cruz has been a defender of Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
His dad might have.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Killed Kennedy, don't know, didn't say it happened.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm saying it could have happened, don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
So he's really trying to balance this loyalty with Trump
but also appealing to more of a traditional conservative. He's
trying to thread that needle so much. And there's a
there's of people now that are I voted for Trump
three times, but now they're saying, you know, they're burning
the red hat, they're giving up on MAGA, although there's
still conservative So is that who Cruse is trying to
(07:13):
talk to.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, I'd think you've got to wait to see what
the mid term election in the direction of the country
looks like, because a strong Trump makes it much harder.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The problem for all these.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
People is they've given into Trump so often they can't
run as outsiders even if they're not in the Trump orbit.
So many of these people Cruise included, have become basically
subservient to Trump and just carried his talking points even
though you know they don't agree with a bunch of
them that if Trump is unpopular, it's going to be
very hard to get out of it and go and
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not me and present yourself as some sort of outsider.
You know, when you really saw the true colors of
a Ted cruise. And there are certain moments for me
in the Robkendall origin story, how did you become the
way that you are?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Why are you like that?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Different things?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's a collection of things, but there are certain things
that really stood out to me that just like hit
me between the eyes and how phony these politicians are.
When Ted Cruz gave his speech at the Republican National
Convention in twenty sixteen, everybody knew he hated Trump. I mean,
he alluded that his dad killed Kennedy for crying out loud, right,
nobody would blame you. But he gets up there and
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then it comes time to make the cell one way
or another, and he settles on vote your conscience.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I was like, you are just like the rest
of these people.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You don't have the bollular area to say what you think,
and everybody knows what you think because you're worried about
being judged and how it's going to affect your political career. So,
mister Johnny tough guy, really is no different than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Vote my conscience? What is that the leadership is that?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, that's him trying to thread the news exactly that's
still wants to be in good standing and if there's
a cabinet position to please still get that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's why I find it like to bring this thing
full circle because all the commentary and the Secretary of
States trace oh oh bow bye, the family, the legacy
career want to be career politician.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Diego ran for Congress and lost.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He desperately wanted to be in Congress, actually wanted to
be Secretary of State first. Then he found out Connie
Lawson wasn't quitting like he thought she was going to,
and he was gonna get his ass kicked. So he
technically explored running for and ran for one of them
two things, and then ran for secretary of State. He
is the want to be career politician. He worked in
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politics much of his adult life in this country, he
is that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And yet that's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
My point in all this is the bow bye stuff
is all fair criticism. But how willfully and naively we
ignore whatever side we're on when the when our side
is doing the exact same thing. And this is why
we're just a country run by career politicians who do
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or say whatever is politically expeeding in the moment, Because
that's what we have told them, we will accept how.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Many times is too much running for president.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Because you've got you know, Ted Cruz obviously did it,
and Marco Rubio did it as well. But it's interesting
because when you're the heir apparent seems to be JD. Vance,
but when you're inside the Beltway you hear more rumblings
about it being Marco Rubio. Actually who is more impressive
to people?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, okay, so like let's think out loud here, like
he ran already well Ted Cruz. Yeah, but I'm trying
to think this through. In the like post World War
Two era, you had Nixon who ran and law He
actually won the presidency in nineteen sixty but was not
declared the president. So Nixon did it, made the comeback.
(11:08):
Let's see, Reagan ran in seventy six to challenge Ford
and lost, but that was sort of like Hairby knew
Reagan was the better guy. We can't go against the
sitting president of the United States. You had I'm trying
to think of people who want Bush technically ran against Reagan. Well,
(11:30):
Bush ran against Reagan in eighty but there was eight
years in between it and he was the vice president. Clinton
ran once Bush ran once, Obama ran once, Trump ran once,
Biden ran three times. So it's a mixed bag, right,
it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
On are you?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think it's more or less you got to give
it time. I think that's sort of the lesson.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Nixon tried to become governor Californian loss, Bush was the
vice president. Biden was a huge gap between plagiarisms and
running for president. So I think if you eight years
is probably what it'd be. Twelve years, right?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Is that right? My I'm trying to do math on
the fly. It'll be twelve years.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If Rubio were to run or Cruz runs again, they'd
be twelve years between the last time they ran for president.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
How old do you think Ted Cruz is?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
He has got to be in his late He was
young when he got elected, but he's been let's see,
he's been there since twenty ten, right, so he was
in his mid forties. I'll say prices right, rules would
go over all, right, keV, I'll let you go first.
How old do you think Ted Cruz is? I'll let
you have first, stab at it. I got my number.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think he's fifty six.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I was going to go with him being fifty five,
But I bet Kevin is probably right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What's the number you're both over?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
He's fifty four? WHOA December twenty second, nineteen seven.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So he was like barely forty years old when he
was elected US senator, right Texas.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeahs, so he and he probably ran on his youth then,
and they're still there.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They're always still there paratively.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He is young. It is Kendallly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Big headline for the Indie Star Conflicts, Confusion and Secrecy.
Six takeaways from the IDC Audit. Oh, Kayla Dwyer, Hailey Colombo,
friends of our program on the story there, and this
gives us an opportunity to remind you that I believe
we're on day seven since the IEDC Audit Indian Economic
(13:41):
Development Corporation Audit was released, in which it revealed thirty
three zero conflicts of interest. Yes, hundreds of millions of
dollars of your money that went out the door, much
of it to companies, organizations or friends of people making
the decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
On where the money was going.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Much of it spent on trips for state officials appointed
and elected and their family members foreign trips, people to
sit on camels in front of pyramids, tickets to sporting events.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
A massive amount.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
A reasonable person would come to the conclusion that there
was a massive amount of abuse and corruption involved in
our money being disseminated without any clear return on investment
to us as taxpayers.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, I still ask the question, how did Eric Holcomb
sitting on a camel help me?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It didn't. It helped him.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It is also how does a guy who was governor
of the state of Indiana end up with a sprawling
I believe it's twenty plus acres of beautiful land on
the north side of Brownsburg and a fabulous house to
go with it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
How does that person afford that he's really good with mine? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Sure, yes, on his governor salary. Yes, absolutely, Casey, no
doubt about that whatsoever. But the point is we're seven
days on on this and other than one guy, the
Tesla guy, what's his name, Jake Teshka Teshka, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I don't know why I always do that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think I'm giving him the respect and decency he
gives the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think that's why I do that. Case, I think
I just answered my question.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I know you had a fight with him at one point,
but I do think he's more conservative than some of them.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, his response was, we need to what something shore
up the internal processes. Wasn't that his quote or something
to that effect. So hundreds of millions of dollars, well,
I mean it disappears a strong word because we know
where it went, but no clear benefit out of much
of it, and we know thirty conflicts of interest existed.
In your response, we needed to do what shore up
(15:47):
internal processes? That's mister representative, what you want to do.
Now we give him credit. He's one of the few
people who said a damn word about this. And so
you have one of the biggest stories, what should be
one of the biggest stories in the history of this state.
Massive abuse of taxpayer money, hundreds of millions of dollars.
(16:08):
Probably this audit was just three years, twenty two to
twenty four. If you extrapolate it over the life of
the ADC, you're probably at billions of dollars of bad
behavior with public money, and hardly any of these reps
or senators will say anything.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yep about it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Some of the findings were referred to the Office of
Inspector General, which seeks out waste, fraud, and abuse. It'd
be interesting to see what their report comes out with
At Delaney and Senator Fatty Cadora, they both said that
they want the Attorney General to be involved and they
want legislative hearings.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You've got the Senate President Rod Bray.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
He said that legislature will evaluate possible actions. I'm guessing
they're going to wait to see if anything happens with
the OIG.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The one that gets me more than anyone, though, is
the Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With, who ran on this
all over the state, on what a corrupt, rotten, underhanded
organization the IEDC IS has yet to say a word
on any of this. He's the first politician in the
history of ever Casey to be proven exactly right about
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something and refused to point it out.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He's not taking his victory lap.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He's not taking anything. So the question has to be asked,
what in the world happened to Micah beck With. This
is literally the stuff he ran on. He ran on
the idea of checks and balances, he ran on the
idea of exposing who these people are and holding them
to account, and then on one of his major issues
that he talked about all across the state. He gets
(17:46):
proven exactly right and not a peep.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And he's quiet about it, not.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
A word, nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
He's basically in line with the governor on this, which
is he's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The cop on South Park. Okay, move along, nothing to see.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And of course they're mad at me now for pointing
this out that he won't say a word. But how
can a guy who can't sprint to the nearest camera
fast enough have been proven totally correct on what these people.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Are and he said nothing. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Look, I know he's worried about some things that are
going on. I know he's worried no matter what he
says publicly about some things that are transpiring. I know
he feels he's got to be totally subservient to Braun
now because he foolishly believes Braun can and will protect him,
Which is why after they were part of the delete
tweet club all here, whoever is running the Twitter account
(18:38):
that date could come up with was same when Braun
clapped back at Ryan Mears. Same, well, same you deleted
the tweet like Braun or same you agree with Braun's
new tweet, don't know, but everyone should be asking themselves.
Have you ever heard of a politician ever, especially when
who craves the limelight. This is how the IEDC stuff runs. Apology,
(19:03):
do craves attention like Micah? And he's proven exactly right
and not a word about it for seven days?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He should take the win.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's too late now, I mean you've got seven days.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well he had well, I mean he did this on
property taxes too, where he went missing for four days
and then like contradicted himself and then changed his mind
the next day after people got pissed off at him
when he went on Hammer and Nigel. So what is
going on with this IEDC? This is the bigger question
that everybody needs to be asking themselves. How is this
organization that powerful that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Not a word will be said?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And other than a couple Democrats, you're not hearing anything either.
You notice that a freebie, here's the ball, tap it
in the hole, happy little tap tap taparu and even
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Won't take it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is how corrupt and rotten and underhanded this whole
thing is that none of these politicians, even the ones
who ran on it, won't say a word.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It does seem like the tentacles are law. So there
are a lot of concerns about the pay to play optics.
Did you see that nearly half of the IEDC of
IEDC Foundation donors also received contracts or tax credits, like
donate to this and you've got a contract. We touched
on that the other day. Somebody donated an undisclosed name.
(20:20):
Of course, you're not allowed to know the name of
the person or entity donated twenty five hundred dollars and
then they turned around and were awarded with a million
dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, look, it's a and the reason we spend so
much time on it is it's everything we tell you
on the show about what your government is. It's a
glorified legalized money operation scheme, money laundering operations.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You spend eleven point nine million dollars on luxury travel
and entertainment on our dime, the taxpayer's dime, four point
three million dollars in flights, two point eight million dollars
of hotel, two million in event planning, one million for
travel agencies, eight hundred thousand for meals.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And it's they're all freebie's casey and all of these Politically,
and again it come back to this is telling if
you're hearing our voice right now, the IDC and the
lack of response from people in your government to this
audit of the IDC.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
The facts aren't in dispute.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
We're giving you the facts, the information from the forensic audit,
and all of these politically motivated people. And yet there's
a freebee right here for someone, for anyone to raise
their hand and say, I will lead on this, I
will clean this up, I will keep this at the forefront.
I will talk about this, including a guy who got
(21:36):
elected to the second highest office.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
In the state doing it, and nobody says anything.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, Bron did say that his intent was to restructure
and call for greater transparency.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So perhaps they're waiting on marching orders.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I thought he said we were moving on. Didn't he
say we were moving on.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
That too, We're moving on to greater transparency. You're listening
to Kendall and Casey on night THIBC.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Storage you choose what a couple.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
What's going on with Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know. Your husband told me last night he
was retiring.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That was the big speculation, right, But now people are
saying no, maybe not.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So do you remember back in.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Can we go back for a second, okay, because I
need you relay a message to your husband. Okay, sure,
he's probably listen. If he's going to change his mind
on something big, you need to know. He's got to
tell me he changed his mind because he and I
were on the same wavelength. I thought, and then you
told me last night he had a change of heart.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, when you talked to him, he was thinking it
was Lebron James retiring. By the time we went to bed,
he said, I don't know if that's what you tell.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Him in the future, even if it's twelve thirty in
the morning, He's got to text me, right because.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You wake up every morning a quarter after three, so
you would see that information exactly before the sun came up.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So you're listening. What are they talking about? So Lebron
James is entering his twenty third season in the NBA.
Now the great debate going on now is is he
the greatest player of all time? I think the consensus
one most people is it's Michael Jordan. But I know
there are some big Lebron fans who think it's him.
Any of us with an IQBO of seven say it's
(23:13):
Michael Jordan. So there's a real, you know, back and
forth on this. He set all the you know, the
scoring record, et cetera. There's nothing he's got left to prove.
He was the best at going to somebody else's team
and winning a championship. Nobody did that better than Lebron.
But he said, I got some big announcement coming up. Well, yeah,
and nobody knows what it is. And then the whole
thing started. Well, he's it's going to be announcement, he's
(23:35):
going to retire. But then people are because it was like, okay,
if let me, let me go back here. When he
left the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is when the stain started
on Lebron, he left the Cleveland Cavaliers to go to
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He did this big the.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Decision right ESPN.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Nobody knew what he was going to say.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's a seventy five minutes special. Yes, yes, it aired
in twenty ten for him to.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Say one sentence, I'm going to the Miami Heat, right right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then he teased basically, it's like the big announcement
two point zero or whatever they were called. Second decision,
Thank you, Yes, and so your husband and I were
talking because we were going, he's going to retire, and
prims like he wouldn't retire right before the season starts
because they're the preseason games are starting. I don't think
he would do that. But then your husband was like,
(24:24):
Jim said, well, he's going to look horrible if it's
some just I'm going to doing something with Amazon or
you know, whatever it might be. And I said, you
know what, Jim, You're right, Yeah, he's gonna look like
a complete idiot if he doesn't. I'll go with you,
he's going to retire. And then you told me changed
just Jim changed.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
His he was questioning it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, Lebron had expressed regret about the presentation of the
first the decision back in twenty ten, so imagine the
regret he would have for the second decision.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
If he's not announcing his retirement.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
When is it? When's it come out?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think if they already released the ad and it
is part of the Hennessy partnership, they were supposed to
do it at noon today, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah? So he did. He did not retire, So he
is he is? He done it twice?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's burned everybody. Well and well, I guess he didn't
burn people the first time. He just he screwed the
people in Cleveland. That's only people he burned.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Everybody was thinking maybe this was tied to Amazon, because
he's got a business partnership with Amazon.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So what is it, Kevin? What did he announce? So
it was just a video. It was a part of
his ad partnership with Hennessy.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh, people are going to be so mad about this.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, just it just came down. It leaked out early.
It was supposed to be new, and you're right, and
it came out early. While we were doing this final
hour of the.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Week, he said, another seventy five minute special.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think it's just sun It's just like a thirty
second commercial.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
No, No, I think it's just like a like he's
just doing some thing with Hennessy.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Okay, it's like a minute long ad on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, it's an ad.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're Vans are going to be so bummed, aboples, because
they were really hoping for something a little bit more
meaningful than just a brand partner show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
This is why I first straight with your husban been
because this is where I was it was gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then he talked me out of it, and I
woke up.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All this morning and Okay, Jim, nobody knows basketball Jim,
he's gonna retire.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And he changed his mind. Fine, you gotta tell me.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah he did. He before we went to bed last night.
He said, yeah, No, I don't think it's a retirement.
I think it's gonna be something else. So I'm sorry
that information was not related to you. From from now on,
I'll bring you into the conversation. We're gonna even at bedtime.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
People are gonna hate him over this, aren't they. I mean,
he's like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Gonna be really disappointed by that because they built it
up like there's a second decision.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, you're the media. You're the media person here. That
sounds funny to say, because we're both technically media, but
you're you understand pop culture and media and and and
and advertising. And I get that. There's like he got
a ton of extra publicity for it. But does it
does it anger people to the problem turning people the product?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, they could turn people off to it. I think
that'll that'll go away, though, because if you're a super
fan of lebron, which I am not, you're gonna if
he says, go buy this product. You might Okay, I'll
give it a shot, even if he at least wants
to see if I Yeah, yeah, there's going to be
some people that are disappointed about that.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Sorry, what a bummer.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
This is why you don't let your friends talk you
into things. Because I was right to just trust my instinct.
And then my friend who changed his mind didn't even
tell me.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
But but kudos to Kevin for having the information.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Good job.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's some quick reasons Kevin used the internet. Good job, Kevin.
keV was like, I bet that leaked out. Let me
look and see what it was.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, all right, it is Kendally Casey on ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Come take me.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Time.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We'll tell that.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Let's do it from.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
We don Okay, look, I know this is sort of
a reoccurring theme on our program.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, but it sucks to drive to work every day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I left early today and I was so proud of myself.
I'm like, oh, this is great. I'm gonna get there.
I'm gonna have lots of time. And then I pull
onto Washington and right away I was stopped. First of all,
a big cement truck pulled out in front of me.
No big deal, he's on his way to work. But
they move a little bit slower, you know. But the
thing was I could not pass them because there's like
(28:30):
a maze.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You have to go through on Washington Again.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
It was clear for like three days when you could
actually move at a decent pace.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Now they're back to lane restrictions.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So basically the mayor decided you had too much happiness
in your life being able to have a clear path
to work.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I would have put a stop to that right now.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Like if you don't drive, you're hearing our voice right now,
and you don't drive in the Greater Downtown area, you
can't begin to appreciate how awful. It's so frustrating, and
it's like everywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Sometimes I feel like maybe I mean, we try, but
you can't emphasize it's everywhere. Everything is shut down or delayed,
like every point of entry basically to the Greater Downtown area.
You cannot go a desired route. You have to maneuver
in another fashion. And you know I was telling you
before when on air I said there was a great
(29:24):
Nintendo game that I played as a kid.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It was called.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Paper Boy, and the whole premise of paper Boy was
you had to get the papers on the doorstep.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You were a little kid on a bike, and there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Were all of these things that would get in your
way to try to stop you, and you'd have to
ride the bike around the things. And that's basically what
the city has become is a real life game of
paper Boy, only I'm in a large automobile and and
this isn't a game, it's my life and like and
(29:56):
for you, I bet it's just especially frustrating because the
one benefit bit of where you chose to live was
I'm very close to my job, right.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It should not be taking me this long to get
into work every morning. It's why I chose to live
in downtown Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know, Tony mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I know we got into earlier when we're talking about
the city pass and the budget, and he's right about this.
In the sense of what are we trying to be
as a city. There is no clear vision vision of that.
And whether it's you who literally lives right outside of
the greater downtown area, you're getting screwed. Whether it's me
(30:33):
who has lived in the suburbs for forty years. I'm
getting screwed. I mean, my commute is a good ten
to fifteen minutes longer, and that's without the maze. This
is just because of all the bus lines and everything.
Like if everything we're operating as intended, and you just
(30:54):
say to these people in charge, what are you trying
to do?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
What is going on? So there was a long line
of traffic and you could see cars turning around trying
to find alternate roots. They're like, no, I'm not going
to do this, the move of despair. Yeah, And so
finally a lot of cars got through the line and
then I was up next and guess what happened? What
the guy with the stop sign you walk right out
in front of my car. So I had to stop
(31:18):
and wait for the other's lane, you know, the other
traffic win the opposite direction to have their turn through
the one section that's open.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I think the thing, I don't know if you
feel this way. One of the things that is most
frustrating to me is if they were just like major
road upgrades, where you would say, because I'm understanding of that, like.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Hey, you're filling the potholes, wonderful, right, you know, Hey.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This thing's fifty years old. We got to do whatever.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But the things that are causing the delays are things
that will be of zero, zero benefit to me. Some
stupid bus line then nobody rides anyway, or a hotel,
a tax refunded hotel, right.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Or shut down Illinois.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And it's like these things are not a benefit to
society as a collective, their bright shiny object projects that
don't in any way benefit the daily person who uses,
you know, the the common public service in the city.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I know, I know it's aggravating, and all of that
money going towards it, sure, well.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That is I've thought.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I've thought about that numerous times as I've been having
to take side roads back alleys that I think that
is what pisses me off the most, is that the
things that are causing my grief are never going to
benefit me in any shape form effact.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Right, even when it's all done, you're still going to
be frustrated because you won't even be using the bus.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's correct, hotel or many other people. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
This is all tax payer funded, right, So maybe you
should get a free night in the hotel, or at
least I should.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You should go. You should go suggest that to the mayor.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
In fact, when you get off the air today, you
should go over to the city County building and suggest
to the mayor. So I think, here, I have a
great sight.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I help pay for this. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Can this be the Casey Daniels wing of the hotel?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Absolutely, definitely right.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I don't know if you saw this article about Americans
being scammed, and this happens to me all the time.
In fact, it happened last night as I sent you
that that text about how I was being asked to
take another survey.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Now you do think that was a scam.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Actually they were.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Asking questions about Indianapolis Public schools.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So you got a link online survey link like a text, Yeah,
look here, Now do you click them?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I did last night.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
It was Jen from CS Research when it asked me
a couple of questions.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now, I'd love to take a poll, but I'm not
clicking a link from a stranger on the internet.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Sorry, Like, if you call me, I will take it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I did.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I clicked the link and it was two questions. They
asked me how likely I was to vote, and then
about Indianapolis Public schools, and it was two questions.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And I don't know if I answered the question incorrectly,
because had I answered it in a different way, maybe
there would.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Have been more questions.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But it was only two questions.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
But right now Americans are getting nine spam calls a day,
oh nine fraudulent emails and seven suspicious text messages every week,
twenty five separate scam encounters in just seven days.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Now. The spam calls, they seem to come in waves.
Do you notice that, It's like you'll get a.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Whole bunch and then they'll stop, and then they like
pick back up again.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't know why that is. Does that just me?
Or is that happened to you too?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, It's been happening to me a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
And i'd be getting the call about my house and
if I'm willing to sell, and what is my bottom
dollar willing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To sell it? Now?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I don't know if that's a scam call or just
one of these corporations that's trying to buy up property.
But I of course always elevate the asking price and
they say, is that your bottom because you know we're
going to cover the closing costs.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
For everything and any upgrades. And I always tell them, yeah,
that's the bottom line, that's it. And then they proceed
to tell me they'll call back again someday. Oh and
they never did, And well no, they do that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
The very next day, and I go through the process again.
One of these times they're gonna say yes and give
me a whole bunch more money.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, on that note, good luck on your drive home.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Oh, thanks you too, Thank you Rob, thank you, Kevin,
thank you for listening today. This is being Kendel and
Casey on ninety three WIBC.
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The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.