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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, you could say whatever you want as a politician,
and you can deceive and deflect for a little while,
but there reaches a point where you can't make people
not believe their own existence they experience every single day.
And I think that's where Trump is with the economy
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right now.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So there's a new poll that came out from Fanny
May and it says nearly seventy percent of Americans believe
the US economy is on the wrong track. And that's
up from sixty four percent in August.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
What's the number, seventy percent? Okay, so that's not I mean,
that's you got Republicans in on that. That's not a
partisan thing. And as Trump are kind of found out
in twenty twenty and Biden Kamala found out in twenty
four and many other politicians have found out throughout the
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history of this country, the economy is usually the primary
factor in how people vote because it's the thing they
experience every single day. Look, you can and should be
invested in a secure border. We all have a benefit
of that. We should all cheerlead for it, we should
all do our part to help it. But the reality
is you're not likely to encounter hopefully a dangerous illegal
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immigrant in your day to day life, and obviously many
people do. It goes horrible. We've laid out those cases.
These people have no place in our society. We should,
you know, catch them, get rid of them, punish them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So it's an important issue, But you don't experience that
every single day. Or the Israel Israel Hamas conflict. You
may be an ardent supporter of Israel, but don't you know,
you don't experience that every day, or Ukraine, Russia, whatever.
The economy is something that hits you every single day,
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every time you go to the store, every time you
go to work. It is always front and so and
what Trump is doing right now and maybe in the
long terminal workout, but front and center for people, it
is not working.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Only thirty two percent of the people who are questioned
expect their finances to improve over the next year. And
they kind of they broke this survey down into different parts.
One was the overall sentiment of the economy. They also
got into the housing market, also the labor market, and
then just some overall takeaways, also renting in mortgage. There's
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something else that I wanted to bring.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
To the table.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
In the discussion about the economy, and that is electricity prices.
Axios put out their survey and they said they don't
have Indiana on the list, which is interesting. There are
a few states that they just skipped over. So we'll
go to our neighboring states. Pennsylvania electricity prices have skyrocketed
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forty five percent in the past year. When you look
at Ohio, they're an increase of forty two percent, Kentucky
five percent, Illinois forty percent, Michigan twenty eight percent. So
you have to imagine that Indiana is going to be
somewhere between twenty five and forty five percent increase in
the electricity prices. And of course they attribute that to
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the data centers which are causing all the prices to skyrocket.
But when you take your electricity prices and your grocery
prices and the fact that mortgage rates are pretty.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Stagnant, Yeah, people are.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Looking at their own, you know, bills that are coming
in and what's coming in on their paycheck.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Their paycheck's unchanged, yet the bills are increasing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think the biggest problem in this conversation or in
this in this well, in this conversation, but in This
issue is our politicians are so rotten and dishonest and
have so little respect for the people because all they
really care about is getting reelected. And they have recognized
that most people will let some future generation which the
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future generation stuff is kind of here now, suffer so
that they can have something. People want to believe they
can have something for nothing, or you can give something
to someone without taking it from somebody else. And you're
always taking Whenever the government does something, they're taking it
from somebody else because either you're taking money and paying
for it somebody pays tax and they pay for it,
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or you're printing money which means daft deficits or future taxes.
Somebody will pay for it down the line, and now
we're all paying for it in terms of inflation. Casey,
you live in a house with a sports nut. So
I'm guessing at some point in your life you have
seen the movie Hoosiers. Correct, there is a look I
guess I can spoiler alert at this point. The movie
is forty years now. For a while, Gene Hackman. It
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is based on loosely on the mile and State championship
team in which Bobby Plump was the real character. The
small school, hits the shot wins the championship, and they
made this movie around it, which is based very loosely
on it. There's many people who never existed or what.
But Gene Hackman comes in to coach this basketball team
which is based on myelin and totally none of this
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ever actually happened. It's not not the way it actually
went down. He comes in and changes everything that the
team is doing, and people are outraged. And there's this
conversation he's having in the movie where he talks about
his coaching philosophy and he basically says what this team
is doing now is not capable of winning championships, and
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in order to get this team to where they can
win a championship, and the line is, I've got to
break him down and I got to build build him
back up, ye right, And the people are outraged and
he does all these things, and then finally the kids
start buying into what he's doing. But he has the
honest conversation with the public about you're not gonna like
this in the beginning. It's not going to be pleasant,
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and here's what we have to do to get this
team back on track. That is what we need in
this country. We need politicians, starting with the President of
the United States, to have the intestinal fortitude, the guts,
and the courage to say everything is so broken. We
have broken this country beyond repair that it cannot be salvage.
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It's weirdly sort of the same thing with property taxes.
You'll never fix the property tax system in Indiana. It's
too broken. And instead of having that honest conversation, we
just keep saying, well, if we did this, or we
tinker around the edges with that, the philosophies of our government,
the actions of our government have broken our economy now
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to the point we're in an honest fashion it cannot
be fixed without being broken down and built back up.
And nobody's going to do that because they don't want
to play the short term political costs, the pain people
would have to feel to get the economics of our
nation back on solid footing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, some people would argue that that is in fact
what Donald Trump is doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But he's not stopping spending money.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He's breaking it down to h this is the breaking
it down phase.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I would buy it if he would stop spending the
money and shrink the government. If he said, look, there's
a you know, a three or four part approach, and
tariffs are one of them. But I'm also over here
gonna balance our budget. We're gonna get rid of all
the wasteful spending. We're gonna have honest conversations about social
security and Medicare and all these things that we're gonna
make the Okay, I'm on board with the tariffs. But
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the tariffs do you laid out the number was? It
was a couple billion dollars right like it was in
the billions that the revenue that it's turning, which is nothing.
You're running trillion dollar plus annual deficits. It's nothing. Even
if you used all that money to pay down the debt.
If he came to me and said every penny you'll
go to pay down, which he did at one point,
but of course we knew that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Was gonna last change his mine.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
If every penny was gonna pay down the debt and
we were gonna balance our budget and we were actually
going to peel back some of our nation's debt and
we were gonna get inflation under control, I would be
in on that. But the tariffs are just going to
prop up government programs they're going to have to potentially
see some level of peel back during the shutdown. He's
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not doing any of that. The economy means an economy
for rich people, in which the tippy top people are
going to continue to get ahead or continue to thrive,
continue to elevate their wealth, and you, the middle class,
are shrinking out of the middle class.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, let's talk about the housing market outlook. Only
twenty seven percent of people say it's a good time
to buy a home. Mortgage rates remain around six percent. However,
home prices are fifty one percent higher than they were
five years ago. You still have a tight inventory and
competition is extremely high.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So then think about what the housing price does, which
is the housing prices higher. Interest rates are still markedly
higher than they were when they do these cuts, unless
they cut them to zero like they did during COVID.
The big business people are the ones who benefit. Okay,
you might you might save some money on your mortgage,
but if six and six two five is the difference
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between you buy an OUs or not buy an OSS,
you're probably cash poorn that home to begin with from
the moment you step into it. But the housing prices
are still unaffordable for many people. But then you also have,
as a result of the rising housing prices, people can't
afford the property taxes and the insurance, and so it
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is this like perfect storm vortex. And then Trump comes
out and starts talking about all this land for affordable housing,
and it's like, great, that's what my community needs. Another
high density housing development, mister Trump. Hey, I'll tell you what,
Donald Trump, why don't we put the first high density
housing development at mar Lago. You got plenty of land there,
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put it there. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Renting preference is rising, and we've talked about this before.
Thirty three percent say if they were moving today, they
would choose to rent versus buying a house because they.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Can't afford the down payment on it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But there's like renting is not a bad thing. They
always try to label it as a negative thing. And
I've told the story before. But Pete the Planner, the
financial guy who I think he still has a weekend
show here in WIBC. Years ago, we had a conversation
about this, and I think he actually did it as
a column and on his show where he did the
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math and this was ten years ago when houses were
much cheaper than they are today, and he sort of
debunked by the time you factor in all the things
you have to do for home ownership, that it's even
that great of a deal, and for a young person,
it's definitely probably not a good deal, especially in today's economy.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They also touch on the labor market and economic trends.
So you've got the unofficial labor report that came out,
and it says pretty much that hiring and quit rates
are low, meaning people are sticking with the job even
if they don't like it, they don't want to be
there because hiring has slowed down.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Talking to somebody the other day who is in a
a desired but very targeted field in technology, and this
person has kind of had enough of their current situation.
Nothing bad, they're not in trouge. They're just like, I
gotta I feel like I've got to move on right.
Earned everything i can right, and this this job has
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taken me as far as it's going to take me.
The employer is very happy with this person.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
There east your cap and salary.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Probably yeah, they're they're fine with this person. They just
feel like, hey, it's probably time for me to move on,
and they were telling me about the struggles that they
are having now compared to three or four years ago,
when this person arguably is now more desired because their
skill set is better theirs, certifications whatever, and and it
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was interesting conversation I have with this person about how
tightened even the in demand markets are. And so if
you're in a market that's not in demand, I can't
imagine what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, yeah, I mean, hiring is clearly slowing and unemployment
still low ish, right, so where are you going to go?
People who are taken forever to hire a job? You
just you're going to stay and hug the one you have.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So then this comes back to Trump's manipulation of the economy,
which is exactly what they did during COVID, which they
are now acknowledging that the tear without saying and he's
never going to say it, but he's acknowledging that the
tariffs are harming the economy. So instead of manning up
to the American people and actually having to earn it
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and sell it and explain why it's going to work
long term and take the blow, their response is I'm
going to strong arm the Federal Reserve into cutting interest rates,
which all that does is let mega corpse and big
business people get access to cheaper money, which means your
money becomes worthless, and then they'll artificially goose the economy
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and go, look at how great the economy is, when
the reality is you'll pay for it through inflation.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You're listening to Kendelly Casey, it's ninety three WIBC, I
don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Why. Or Bumper stickers Ruining humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Study was done by University of Cincinnati and they used
some simulated driving videos and some of the videos showed
drivers driving well and others showed them driving badly. But
the cars had different bumper stickers on them and they
were trying to gauge people's reaction. Does the bumper sticker
make you angry? And they found they had a neutral
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one as well. They had some proud Democrat, proud Republican
cars with no stickers at all, and then some neutral
ones like I love my dog. And what they found
out is that when drivers followed the rules, the bumper
sticker didn't affect you at all. Oh, but when the
driver was driving badly, people were definitely angry. If the
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car had a sticker from an opposing.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Political So interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And they also found out that participants said that they
were more likely to honk at cars that had opposing
political stickers on them as well.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, the bumper sticker is sort of it seems
like I don't maybe I just don't notice them anymore,
but it doesn't seem like I see as many of them,
certainly not on nicer cars.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Right, you need to spend all that money on a
car of sticker on it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And look, I can say this because I have a
horrible car, but there's a certain type of car, Like
my car wouldn't be the sort of car that would
have the bumper stick it would be.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Your car would be the type of car that the
bumper sticker would be holding it together.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I need that bumper sticker.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, so I could say this, there's a certain type
of car that you would see the bumper sticker. And
I guess people are like, well, if I'm spending eighty
large for a Tesla or whatever it costs, now, I'm
not going to risk some person keying my automobile because
they don't like my political slogan.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Right, So in twenty nineteen, you gov did a survey
and they found out that sixty percent of cars have
bumper stickers a decal or a magnet on them, and
of that sixty percent, thirty two percent were political.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I wouldn't well, okay with that, But that was several
years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Right, Yeah, it was yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Nineteen, so six years ago. So I would guess that's
probably even smaller now. It does seem sort of a
bygone everything. Here's what bothers me. It is the guy
who has nine bumper stickers. H it's too hard to
keep track of everything. I feel like keV would be
a guy on his van with nine bumper stickers. I
could see keV have nine different things on the back
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of his automobile. I've never had one ever, No, not
even for your band. It never never really occurred to me. Yeah,
you strike me as bumper sticker guy. And there's some
bumper stickers that have like lightning bolts on them or
it's very hard to keep track. There's ones with numbers
on them. Is that how many miles you've ran? Right?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Like the marathon run?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Every now and then you see one two where it
says like there's a baby on board.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, and that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. What is the
theory with the baby on board thing? And I can
say this that I have a young child, no longer
a baby but a toddler. I can say this, am
I like you think what, I was going to run
into you, but now I'm not going to run into
you because there's a baby on this What does that
even mean?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I don't know. I've never had a baby on board.
They have faith.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I understand the people who have the signs in the
yard that say child lives here, slow down or please
be aware or whatever. I see that because there's a
chance you could, inadvertently not trying to do anything wrong,
you know, the kid darts out in front of you.
I understand to be aware that. Hey I need to look,
But what person? How many instances of road rage have
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baby on board prevented over the years?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, I don't have those numbers.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I would love to know that they should do at
on that.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I think it's a lot of people's way of putting
their personality on the outside of their car. Let people
know what they're into as they're driving around.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't care. I don't care what you're into.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, do you think I just want you to drive
safely as well?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I wonder too with bumper stickers, because you do see
a lot of political political are the ones you still
see in terms of candidates, you'll still see the I
wonder what impact a bumper sticker actually has, maybe on
local races that spreading the word yeah, if you're a
or like the magnet decals on the automobile for a
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city council race, a town council race. But if you
ever like seeing a presidential or governor bumper sticker, like,
oh yeah I should, I should vote for them?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Is it really moving the needle?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Although when you think about it, the amount of eyes
a bumper sticker would get in front of see a
yard sign, it stays stagnant and we'll have to drive
past your place of residency. But with a car you
could see it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so you don't have any stickers on your car? No,
I got nothing, Kevin, You have none on yours either.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I have been bumper sticker guy though over the years,
but I've phased out of bumper sticker.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You put a political sticker on your car, like if
they win or you gotta take it off.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But take it off is my bigger part of not
having a bumper sticker, because it's hard usually to get
them off of the car.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, you got to use some soap and water.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, and there's no political candidates. I mean I'm done
with that, right, No, I know we know my opinion
now on all the political candidates, So I'm done. I'm
done with all that.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
What about the ones that have nothing to do with politics,
like the Salt Life or.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Ron Johns? What is a Salt Life? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Somebody isn't that? Is it a brand?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
See? If I don't know what your bumper sticker means,
it's not a very good bumper sticker. Salt Life, like
you eat a lot of salt, you have a is
sodium diet? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like surfer dude has it on there? I don't, Bronco.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I can tell a lot about you based on the
car that you drive. The vehicle and that's all I
need to know. Kev's van I'm barely has air conditioning. Guy,
you're jeep person.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I was gonna say, yeah, what does my vehicle say
about me?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Person?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Rough and tumbles?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I think the cars pretty much sum it up. keV
is van guy. I'm cheap, you're fun and sporty.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think I think it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Says a lot about You're listening to Kendallly Casey. It's
ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Casey question. Yes, have you ever inadvertently flipped somebody off?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Not inadvertently, I use great intention when I tell them
they're number one.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, so call me, call me suspect on those. But
Jerry Jones, who is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys,
probably the most famous owner in all of professional sports
in North America, uh, flipped off off a group of people.
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The Cowboys were playing the Jets on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, they were at MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And Jerry Jones was on camera flipping off somebody we
don't know. And he has now been fined by the
NFL for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, he
went on some radio. I guess he has his own
radio show. Well, I guess you're rich enough to own
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the Cowboys, you can have your own radio show.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Y, exactly the broadcast team to go along with it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, we're worth nine cents in of a radio show,
so surely he went too right, and he described it
as quote es according to NFL dot Com, inadvertent.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And he's unintentional.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He said, the gesture was inadvertent on my part because
that was right after we made our last touchdown and
we were all excited about it. There wasn't any any
antagonistic issue or anything like that. I just put up
the wrong show on the hand that inadvertently got that
was inadvertently done. If you want to call it accidentally,
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you can call it accidental. Okay. What could he have
been doing in which inadvertently his middle finger would have
been extended at people?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Like, hey, we're number one? You see that a lot
with towards like we're number one, number one, right, number one? Yeah,
we're wrong. That's the index finger, right.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Uh what.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean that's our fourth touchdown? You're putting up four?
Like what? I don't I don't understand how you could
inadvertently extend your middle finger at somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He said he was doing it aimed at the celebrating fans.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh no, there is. The intention was thumbs up.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Uh huh, yeah, that it was supposed to be a
thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, this is your thumb right.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
He chose his middle finger instead.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He claimed it was not done in anger or in disrespect.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It was very quick as well.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Hey, Casey, we scored a touchdown. Yeah, I'm doing it
with two thumbs yeah. Yeah, you're number one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then there's that other finger, which means something completely.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't believe this for a second.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, it happened right after the fourth touchdown pass. And
now he's been fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
by the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But get this, he's appealing the fine.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, I mean, I guess why not. Is there some
sort of penalty? Does it find? I don't think it
gets enhanced if you lose.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
What's this guy's net worth?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Though he's eighty, I think Jerry Jones is like eighty
two years old. There's no way at eighty whatever years
Oldie is. He doesn't know the difference. Let's see if
let's see on the spot, keV, can you extend your
thumb in my direction to give me a thumbs up?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
He just did it. He did it, Casey, he chose correctly.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Can you extend your thumb in my direction?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I know you'd like to extend the other one, but
you're also doing it, Okay, So therefore I'm calling complete
bull crap on this.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah you think, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He's not the first owner who's been fine for fan
related incidents. David Tepper from the Panthers was fined three
hundred thousand dollars in twenty three for throwing a drink
at fans.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Was that seems very intentional?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That was a Tepper's the owner of the of the Panthers,
I think right, the Carolina Panthers was that last.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Year in twenty three. I mean what you will? The
drink slipped.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah. Here's the thing. If I were this rich, m
y'all would never see me. Other than when I was
a kid. There was an inspector gadget cartoon and the
main bad guy that he was always chasing after. There
were always like various bad guys, but they were connected
to this one main bad guy who you never saw
his head. You just saw him petting the cat at
the end. That would be me. If I were as
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rich as Jerry Jones, all of my messaging and contact
with the outside world would come via video board, right
that I would just I would that way I could
edit it, transcribe it well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Because you've already stated that if you were that rich,
you would just disappear in a big plot of land.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Those people would wonder whatever happened to Rob Ken.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But if I were the difference is, as a poor man,
I would be poor in a shack in the middle
of nowhere. As a rich man, I would have also
sorts of access to the outside world to inflict as
much damage as I possibly could. But the point is
I would think it through, and that way I could
kit edit or remove, and then I wouldn't know. A
tundred fifty thousand dollars fine, because I don't care how
rich you are. Paying Turner fifty thousand dollars for nothing
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would hurt. And that's what he's doing. He's paying Turner
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hell, here's something to consider. Bud Adams from the Titans.
He was fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say that was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
For flashing middle fingers at fans.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That was a long time ago. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is there no inflation affecting the middle finger? The price
has not gone up. It's the same fine.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Please tell me there's some sort of transcript that we're
going to get on this appeal because I want to
hear how he inadvertently gave a middle finger instead of
thumbs up.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It was an accident. I didn't mean that finger. I
meant thumbs up. Okay, sure.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So do you know what is the number one cause
of fights among couples? Not the owner and fans, but
among couples?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now, are these married or people who are just in
a relationship?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Just in a relationship, They can be married. The most
common reason couples.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Fight, Well, I don't know, because you know my approach
on things. And your husband thought this was I told
him this at Libby's birthday party and he thought it
was the most brilliant thing ever in all things. And
this is when you get seasoned in life. My approach
to whatever thing that is in front of me is
what do I want my life to look like thirty
(25:44):
minutes from now?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So what does future Rob want to deal with?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah? And so it's really helped me. So I don't
know what do couples actually fight about?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
What is the most It's not money, nope, it's not sex, nope,
not parenting.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I would hope if you're just in a relationship. You're
not fighting about those things, because that should be a
red flag.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It is the tone of your voice.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Oh yeah, the sharp the sharp tone, maybe the eye
roll a sigh, study say it's uh. That is the
number one cause of fights because you remember how it
made you feel.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Oh yeah, I've always been told that my looks have tones.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I've never actually, well, i've seen you mad never.
You kind of got mad at me the other day,
but I've never seen you like really mad before. I
think that'd be fun. That's gonna be my goal to
see if I can make you really mad at some point.
I feel like it'd be like Ned. There's an episode
of The Simpsons where Ned Flanders, the do gooder neighbor
of Homer and the Simpsons, gets driven to insanity and
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he just has explodes. I feel like that's how it
might be for you. I want to see if I
can just drive you to explode.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You walked right up to that line the other day.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I did, I know, and I knew, and I'm so good.
I've gotten so good at this point I know when
I've actually probably like done it and then I told you,
oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah you did you apologize. That was very nice.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I once I got told this years ago by a girlfriend.
She said that. She said, the problem with you is
your tone. It's your tone, right, And I said, well,
I always have the same tone. She said, that's the problem.
You're always a sarcastic ass to everything. Change your voice
that are supposed to be serious. I said, but everything's
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funny to me. She said, that's the problem. That's why
this isn't working between us.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, Well, this study says that tone carries emotional weight,
and small changes in voice can feel like blame, indifference
or contempnt.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You're very good with the contempnt.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, this is what I told her.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I said.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Wait a second, I said, well, I said, you knew
when we got together what you signed up for or
wherever we are six months into this thing now or
relationship or whatever. I said. She goes, well, it was
fun when we first started dating. It's not fun now
when it never changes, right.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
She expected you to soften up over time.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But I, in fairness, I told him when we started.
I said, look, this is not an act. H huh,
this is what you're getting. This is I've told people
many times in friendships, relationships, whatever over the years, what
you in case you'll back me up on that. Now,
what you see is what you get. I am a sarcastic,
contemptful ass.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Okay, well, here's what you're supposed to do, Rob, I
need you to pay It would have been healthful fifteen
years ago. But go ahead, attention to me, pause and
correct it in the moment you're supposed to say, sorry,
that came out a little sharp. Let me try again,
or that's not how I meant it. Here's what I mean,
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and just a few small tweaks shows self awareness and
can help avoid bigger fights.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I got this with my wife the other night because
I did something and in my attempt to live by
my creed of what do I want my life to
be thirty minutes from now? Yeah, I looked at her
and I said, I'm sorry, oh nice, and she goes,
I don't believe you, and I said, well, you're right,
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you shouldn't. But what else do you want me to do?
I'm just trying to get out of this thing to
avoid the conflict. I've accepted responsibility, even if I don't
believe it's my responsibility. How can you be a better
husband than that?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, well, you admitted you were wrong, you took you know,
you apologize.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Did you take corrective action? Did you change your tone?
Missing that third step?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, but I don't think there really was corrective action.
I think she just wanted to be mad at me,
and then I took the bait and should have just
found a better way to get to the what do
I want my life to be thirty minutes from now?
And instead, because I wasn't really sorry, I said I'm sorry,
and then that just made it worse. Yeah, and then
I had to restart the clock and what I want
my right?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
If you need to reset the conversation, you need to say,
let's start over. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm an hour into this thing.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Abdul's gonna join us next.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
What's we're gonna we're gonna talk about? What are we
gonn talk? We're gonna talk about the Secretary of State race.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh okay, perfect, that's on the way from ninety three WYVC.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So bye. In the race, let's find out what we
settled lending out the street for lust of two hundred
West Washington, where we talk about going inside the bowels
of the State House. Nobody better than this guy, Thank you.
I'm a proctologist. Congrat Thank you, sir. That's right the
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bottom with the portions of death perception on top of it.
Abdual games of Jabbaz joins us now and aren operator
of ndipolitics dot Org. Abdul keeps Jabaz, Hello.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I'm geting way to work on my next column about
bow bye, and I was thinking of a title and
it's like, OK, I gotta get all instinct bye bye bias.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
What the title is going to be?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sure? Absolutely all right. So we've had a couple of
days now to digest that the son of Evan by,
former governor and senator in Indiana is running for secretary
of State. What have you heard from the the people
inside the political class. What are they saying kind of
off the record, what's the perception about his entry to
the race.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
It is really energized in the Democrats, and a way
they have been energized in a really, really really long time,
almost to the point of two thousand and eight when
Barack Obamacdorf became President one Indiana. Back during that election,
when you beat John McCain, they're really excited, really energetically,
really enthusiastic about it because Bobya is sort of a
bridget he the by Naman like. He brings back a
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lot of the old timers, some of the Democrat money
that may have gone away for a while. You can
also energize younger voters. No fresher face. The guy looks like,
looks like he's out of Central casting. No six' two square,
chin blonde.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Hair you know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Everything we didn't. Get, yes he got.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It he got.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It all that being is Everything diego is not. Well
that being, said and we talked about this a little
bit On state a.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Vehicle by the way. Too what what?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
If and we pondered this when he made the. Announcement
we all just assume because his name is by and you're,
right he looks straight out Of Central, casting and he's
going to have the the machine behind him and the
money and everything. Else but are we make are we
being presumptuous to presume he's going to be some sort
of great candidate that Gives democrats a Showt what if he?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Stinks, oh and he's already he already made a misstep
in their first campaign that they've got to put the.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Disclaimer do you have to do?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That you have to on the ONLINE i think this
is this is running for public office is very. Complicated
and somebody had said at one point that there were
based on where the ad runs or. Whatever but you're,
right you should always put it. On, yeah just just
for just for good safety. Measure AND i was a
bit surprised BECAUSE i was talking about democratic insider friends
like a duel that was that was kind of a
(32:58):
rookie mistake because the buyers are really good at uh
dotting all the eyes and crossing all the. Team, yeah
when you run for city, council you know you got
to put the disclaimer.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Twitch my response, was so here's the, thought and this
is get really. Conspiratory ill go down rabbit. Hole maybe
they did it on.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Purpose oh yeah, yeah like WHAT i.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Mean they don't purple think about. It you don't know
purpose that way like, hey you screwed, up blah. Blah
that way you're like he's going to be a. Cakewalk
you totally. Underestimate, yeah you're. Reaching, yeah of course it was.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
REACHING i think YOU'RE i think you're reaching. There next
thing you're telling meus we didn't land on the, moon all,
Right so because the world is, flat you got you
got you got that. MISTAKE i Like James briggs and
friend of our show and on our on on this,
program and and good on him getting the. Interview but
the idea that you do this interview with the with
The Indie star columnists in a house that doesn't have
(33:42):
furniture and the knock on you as you don't live,
here and he mentioned that in the article that seemed
to be a big mess up too in my.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Opinion, yes but here's the thing, though For republicans to
Attack Evan bye said he doesn't live, Here Bo, bye
bobye here either have we? Met because remember jaeglem are
the whole thing about the. Vote the right had A Henderson,
county A Hamilton county, residents but voted In Hinderson county.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And had all those.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Right, well you're, right, Yeah that's WHY i say you be,
careful be careful that the stick you throw because it
could be a. Boomerang, well, okay so if indeed it
ends up bow bye Versus Diego, morales we're going to
find out about a bunch of. Stuff there's a, likely
a high likelihood were gonna find out a bunch Stuffbout.
(34:27):
Diego we have longed to get to the bottom of
because the buy. Machine, LOOK i will give Bow bye
credit in these Interviews i've seen him do so. Far
he's bringing the. Smoke he'll get better at bringing the.
Smoke and he's saying all the things in a much
nicer way than we do on this. Program but about
Who Diego morales. Is And diego may not want to
(34:48):
tell people who paid For, india but the, buys they're
probably gonna figure it.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Out and my money is somebody with the by campaign
probably has a couple chea cheaps descriptions as.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well that's the, thing, Right so The, republicans because The
republicans circled the wagon pretty, quick and it was like
the egregious behavior From diego for all of, this the
three years he's been in, office and not a peep
out of you. People and now you guys come out
and are losing your minds over where Bo bai has actually.
Lived like, now oh now everybody's.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
A now residency? Matter, YEAH i mean you. Know so
it is interesting. Too he is already exposing who These
republicans are where decency in, office integrity in, office ethical,
behavior it means nothing to these people because every single
one of them knows What diego.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Is AND i think THE i Think republicans have a
they've they've made a deal with the, devil sort of
A fastian, bargain which, is we need the we can't Stand,
diego but we need the. Office which is WHY i
wouldn't be surprised if there's a push to Get Dave,
shelton who's a secretary they can to win at the
state convention so they can Get diego sort of out
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of the.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Picture, well it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Does we talked about this in state. Else happenings of
duel is our. Guest it does now put new onus
on The republicans to, say, hey if It's, diego and
by the, way if You're Dan elliott the state treasurer
or at Least ashalla at the, comptroller and they got
to run for, reelection don't you have to speak up
at somebody because they don't want to run With, diego
certainly not if It's diego against against Bow. Bye doesn't
(36:18):
somebody have to be an adult and, go, Hey David
shelton's The Knox county. Clerk he's as boring as that
wall behind, you but he's really, confident and he's really
boring And as long as we just run Generic, republicans
we'll be. Fine doesn't don't these other statewide people have to, Go,
HEY i got A i got some skin in the
game in. This you gotta.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Go but let's let's let's do it this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Way Whenever i'm in the State house, hallways they run
Into Dan elliott Or Alista shalla Like madame com, trailer
how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Doing? So how's That Diego moralis?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Going it just gives that polite, smile like she gets
her teeth and politely walks.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Away but they're. Not why doesn't anybody ever speak? Up
nobody ever speaks. Up Dave sheldon put a press release
out about Bow, bye and you're just reading this, going
you got a lot of work to do to run
against Bow. Bye you don't do any of this With Diego.
Morales you should be putting this same sort of vigor
and energy into what a rotten not only, candidate not only,
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officeholder but Individual Diego morales.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Is.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
SEE i think that was more for the for the
delegates at the convention next year than then for us
in the, news in the news media business and the general,
public because, like, hey, NO i can take on Bow
BYE i point out, this point out, this point out,
This this is why you should nominate.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Me now you're interviewing bow.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Bye, YES i interviewed him this afternoon and the interview
will run be a post On Any politics probably tomorrow
and on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Show very.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Good find him over At indie politics dot org And
bill Give. Shabaz thank, you thank. You that's gonna do
it for us. Today thank you to you the listener as,
always fabulous. Job thank you To, Casey kevin and stick
Around Tony. Katz coming up, Next Kevil Casey show ninety
THREE wibc
Look, you could say whatever you want as a politician,
and you can deceive and deflect for a little while,
but there reaches a point where you can't make people
not believe their own existence they experience every single day.
And I think that's where Trump is with the economy
(00:21):
right now.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So there's a new poll that came out from Fanny
May and it says nearly seventy percent of Americans believe
the US economy is on the wrong track. And that's
up from sixty four percent in August.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
What's the number, seventy percent? Okay, so that's not I mean,
that's you got Republicans in on that. That's not a
partisan thing. And as Trump are kind of found out
in twenty twenty and Biden Kamala found out in twenty
four and many other politicians have found out throughout the
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history of this country, the economy is usually the primary
factor in how people vote because it's the thing they
experience every single day. Look, you can and should be
invested in a secure border. We all have a benefit
of that. We should all cheerlead for it, we should
all do our part to help it. But the reality
is you're not likely to encounter hopefully a dangerous illegal
(01:23):
immigrant in your day to day life, and obviously many
people do. It goes horrible. We've laid out those cases.
These people have no place in our society. We should,
you know, catch them, get rid of them, punish them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So it's an important issue, But you don't experience that
every single day. Or the Israel Israel Hamas conflict. You
may be an ardent supporter of Israel, but don't you know,
you don't experience that every day, or Ukraine, Russia, whatever.
The economy is something that hits you every single day,
(01:54):
every time you go to the store, every time you
go to work. It is always front and so and
what Trump is doing right now and maybe in the
long terminal workout, but front and center for people, it
is not working.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Only thirty two percent of the people who are questioned
expect their finances to improve over the next year. And
they kind of they broke this survey down into different parts.
One was the overall sentiment of the economy. They also
got into the housing market, also the labor market, and
then just some overall takeaways, also renting in mortgage. There's
(02:30):
something else that I wanted to bring.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
To the table.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
In the discussion about the economy, and that is electricity prices.
Axios put out their survey and they said they don't
have Indiana on the list, which is interesting. There are
a few states that they just skipped over. So we'll
go to our neighboring states. Pennsylvania electricity prices have skyrocketed
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forty five percent in the past year. When you look
at Ohio, they're an increase of forty two percent, Kentucky
five percent, Illinois forty percent, Michigan twenty eight percent. So
you have to imagine that Indiana is going to be
somewhere between twenty five and forty five percent increase in
the electricity prices. And of course they attribute that to
(03:14):
the data centers which are causing all the prices to skyrocket.
But when you take your electricity prices and your grocery
prices and the fact that mortgage rates are pretty.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Stagnant, Yeah, people are.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Looking at their own, you know, bills that are coming
in and what's coming in on their paycheck.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Their paycheck's unchanged, yet the bills are increasing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think the biggest problem in this conversation or in
this in this well, in this conversation, but in This
issue is our politicians are so rotten and dishonest and
have so little respect for the people because all they
really care about is getting reelected. And they have recognized
that most people will let some future generation which the
(04:03):
future generation stuff is kind of here now, suffer so
that they can have something. People want to believe they
can have something for nothing, or you can give something
to someone without taking it from somebody else. And you're
always taking Whenever the government does something, they're taking it
from somebody else because either you're taking money and paying
for it somebody pays tax and they pay for it,
(04:23):
or you're printing money which means daft deficits or future taxes.
Somebody will pay for it down the line, and now
we're all paying for it in terms of inflation. Casey,
you live in a house with a sports nut. So
I'm guessing at some point in your life you have
seen the movie Hoosiers. Correct, there is a look I
guess I can spoiler alert at this point. The movie
is forty years now. For a while, Gene Hackman. It
(04:45):
is based on loosely on the mile and State championship
team in which Bobby Plump was the real character. The
small school, hits the shot wins the championship, and they
made this movie around it, which is based very loosely
on it. There's many people who never existed or what.
But Gene Hackman comes in to coach this basketball team
which is based on myelin and totally none of this
(05:08):
ever actually happened. It's not not the way it actually
went down. He comes in and changes everything that the
team is doing, and people are outraged. And there's this
conversation he's having in the movie where he talks about
his coaching philosophy and he basically says what this team
is doing now is not capable of winning championships, and
(05:30):
in order to get this team to where they can
win a championship, and the line is, I've got to
break him down and I got to build build him
back up, ye right, And the people are outraged and
he does all these things, and then finally the kids
start buying into what he's doing. But he has the
honest conversation with the public about you're not gonna like
this in the beginning. It's not going to be pleasant,
(05:52):
and here's what we have to do to get this
team back on track. That is what we need in
this country. We need politicians, starting with the President of
the United States, to have the intestinal fortitude, the guts,
and the courage to say everything is so broken. We
have broken this country beyond repair that it cannot be salvage.
(06:13):
It's weirdly sort of the same thing with property taxes.
You'll never fix the property tax system in Indiana. It's
too broken. And instead of having that honest conversation, we
just keep saying, well, if we did this, or we
tinker around the edges with that, the philosophies of our government,
the actions of our government have broken our economy now
(06:33):
to the point we're in an honest fashion it cannot
be fixed without being broken down and built back up.
And nobody's going to do that because they don't want
to play the short term political costs, the pain people
would have to feel to get the economics of our
nation back on solid footing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, some people would argue that that is in fact
what Donald Trump is doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But he's not stopping spending money.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He's breaking it down to h this is the breaking
it down phase.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I would buy it if he would stop spending the
money and shrink the government. If he said, look, there's
a you know, a three or four part approach, and
tariffs are one of them. But I'm also over here
gonna balance our budget. We're gonna get rid of all
the wasteful spending. We're gonna have honest conversations about social
security and Medicare and all these things that we're gonna
make the Okay, I'm on board with the tariffs. But
(07:17):
the tariffs do you laid out the number was? It
was a couple billion dollars right like it was in
the billions that the revenue that it's turning, which is nothing.
You're running trillion dollar plus annual deficits. It's nothing. Even
if you used all that money to pay down the debt.
If he came to me and said every penny you'll
go to pay down, which he did at one point,
but of course we knew that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Was gonna last change his mine.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
If every penny was gonna pay down the debt and
we were gonna balance our budget and we were actually
going to peel back some of our nation's debt and
we were gonna get inflation under control, I would be
in on that. But the tariffs are just going to
prop up government programs they're going to have to potentially
see some level of peel back during the shutdown. He's
(07:56):
not doing any of that. The economy means an economy
for rich people, in which the tippy top people are
going to continue to get ahead or continue to thrive,
continue to elevate their wealth, and you, the middle class,
are shrinking out of the middle class.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, let's talk about the housing market outlook. Only
twenty seven percent of people say it's a good time
to buy a home. Mortgage rates remain around six percent. However,
home prices are fifty one percent higher than they were
five years ago. You still have a tight inventory and
competition is extremely high.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So then think about what the housing price does, which
is the housing prices higher. Interest rates are still markedly
higher than they were when they do these cuts, unless
they cut them to zero like they did during COVID.
The big business people are the ones who benefit. Okay,
you might you might save some money on your mortgage,
but if six and six two five is the difference
(08:52):
between you buy an OUs or not buy an OSS,
you're probably cash poorn that home to begin with from
the moment you step into it. But the housing prices
are still unaffordable for many people. But then you also have,
as a result of the rising housing prices, people can't
afford the property taxes and the insurance, and so it
(09:16):
is this like perfect storm vortex. And then Trump comes
out and starts talking about all this land for affordable housing,
and it's like, great, that's what my community needs. Another
high density housing development, mister Trump. Hey, I'll tell you what,
Donald Trump, why don't we put the first high density
housing development at mar Lago. You got plenty of land there,
(09:38):
put it there. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Renting preference is rising, and we've talked about this before.
Thirty three percent say if they were moving today, they
would choose to rent versus buying a house because they.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Can't afford the down payment on it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But there's like renting is not a bad thing. They
always try to label it as a negative thing. And
I've told the story before. But Pete the Planner, the
financial guy who I think he still has a weekend
show here in WIBC. Years ago, we had a conversation
about this, and I think he actually did it as
a column and on his show where he did the
(10:14):
math and this was ten years ago when houses were
much cheaper than they are today, and he sort of
debunked by the time you factor in all the things
you have to do for home ownership, that it's even
that great of a deal, and for a young person,
it's definitely probably not a good deal, especially in today's economy.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They also touch on the labor market and economic trends.
So you've got the unofficial labor report that came out,
and it says pretty much that hiring and quit rates
are low, meaning people are sticking with the job even
if they don't like it, they don't want to be
there because hiring has slowed down.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Talking to somebody the other day who is in a
a desired but very targeted field in technology, and this
person has kind of had enough of their current situation.
Nothing bad, they're not in trouge. They're just like, I
gotta I feel like I've got to move on right.
Earned everything i can right, and this this job has
(11:18):
taken me as far as it's going to take me.
The employer is very happy with this person.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
There east your cap and salary.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Probably yeah, they're they're fine with this person. They just
feel like, hey, it's probably time for me to move on,
and they were telling me about the struggles that they
are having now compared to three or four years ago,
when this person arguably is now more desired because their
skill set is better theirs, certifications whatever, and and it
(11:46):
was interesting conversation I have with this person about how
tightened even the in demand markets are. And so if
you're in a market that's not in demand, I can't
imagine what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, yeah, I mean, hiring is clearly slowing and unemployment
still low ish, right, so where are you going to go?
People who are taken forever to hire a job? You
just you're going to stay and hug the one you have.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So then this comes back to Trump's manipulation of the economy,
which is exactly what they did during COVID, which they
are now acknowledging that the tear without saying and he's
never going to say it, but he's acknowledging that the
tariffs are harming the economy. So instead of manning up
to the American people and actually having to earn it
(12:33):
and sell it and explain why it's going to work
long term and take the blow, their response is I'm
going to strong arm the Federal Reserve into cutting interest rates,
which all that does is let mega corpse and big
business people get access to cheaper money, which means your
money becomes worthless, and then they'll artificially goose the economy
(12:54):
and go, look at how great the economy is, when
the reality is you'll pay for it through inflation.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You're listening to Kendelly Casey, it's ninety three WIBC, I
don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Why. Or Bumper stickers Ruining humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Study was done by University of Cincinnati and they used
some simulated driving videos and some of the videos showed
drivers driving well and others showed them driving badly. But
the cars had different bumper stickers on them and they
were trying to gauge people's reaction. Does the bumper sticker
make you angry? And they found they had a neutral
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one as well. They had some proud Democrat, proud Republican
cars with no stickers at all, and then some neutral
ones like I love my dog. And what they found
out is that when drivers followed the rules, the bumper
sticker didn't affect you at all. Oh, but when the
driver was driving badly, people were definitely angry. If the
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car had a sticker from an opposing.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Political So interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And they also found out that participants said that they
were more likely to honk at cars that had opposing
political stickers on them as well.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, the bumper sticker is sort of it seems
like I don't maybe I just don't notice them anymore,
but it doesn't seem like I see as many of them,
certainly not on nicer cars.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Right, you need to spend all that money on a
car of sticker on it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And look, I can say this because I have a
horrible car, but there's a certain type of car, Like
my car wouldn't be the sort of car that would
have the bumper stick it would be.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Your car would be the type of car that the
bumper sticker would be holding it together.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I need that bumper sticker.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, so I could say this, there's a certain type
of car that you would see the bumper sticker. And
I guess people are like, well, if I'm spending eighty
large for a Tesla or whatever it costs, now, I'm
not going to risk some person keying my automobile because
they don't like my political slogan.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Right, So in twenty nineteen, you gov did a survey
and they found out that sixty percent of cars have
bumper stickers a decal or a magnet on them, and
of that sixty percent, thirty two percent were political.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I wouldn't well, okay with that, But that was several
years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Right, Yeah, it was yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Nineteen, so six years ago. So I would guess that's
probably even smaller now. It does seem sort of a
bygone everything. Here's what bothers me. It is the guy
who has nine bumper stickers. H it's too hard to
keep track of everything. I feel like keV would be
a guy on his van with nine bumper stickers. I
could see keV have nine different things on the back
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of his automobile. I've never had one ever, No, not
even for your band. It never never really occurred to me. Yeah,
you strike me as bumper sticker guy. And there's some
bumper stickers that have like lightning bolts on them or
it's very hard to keep track. There's ones with numbers
on them. Is that how many miles you've ran? Right?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Like the marathon run?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Every now and then you see one two where it
says like there's a baby on board.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, and that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. What is the
theory with the baby on board thing? And I can
say this that I have a young child, no longer
a baby but a toddler. I can say this, am
I like you think what, I was going to run
into you, but now I'm not going to run into
you because there's a baby on this What does that
even mean?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I don't know. I've never had a baby on board.
They have faith.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I understand the people who have the signs in the
yard that say child lives here, slow down or please
be aware or whatever. I see that because there's a
chance you could, inadvertently not trying to do anything wrong,
you know, the kid darts out in front of you.
I understand to be aware that. Hey I need to look,
But what person? How many instances of road rage have
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baby on board prevented over the years?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, I don't have those numbers.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I would love to know that they should do at
on that.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I think it's a lot of people's way of putting
their personality on the outside of their car. Let people
know what they're into as they're driving around.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't care. I don't care what you're into.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, do you think I just want you to drive
safely as well?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I wonder too with bumper stickers, because you do see
a lot of political political are the ones you still
see in terms of candidates, you'll still see the I
wonder what impact a bumper sticker actually has, maybe on
local races that spreading the word yeah, if you're a
or like the magnet decals on the automobile for a
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city council race, a town council race. But if you
ever like seeing a presidential or governor bumper sticker, like,
oh yeah I should, I should vote for them?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Is it really moving the needle?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Although when you think about it, the amount of eyes
a bumper sticker would get in front of see a
yard sign, it stays stagnant and we'll have to drive
past your place of residency. But with a car you
could see it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so you don't have any stickers on your car? No,
I got nothing, Kevin, You have none on yours either.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I have been bumper sticker guy though over the years,
but I've phased out of bumper sticker.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You put a political sticker on your car, like if
they win or you gotta take it off.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But take it off is my bigger part of not
having a bumper sticker, because it's hard usually to get
them off of the car.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, you got to use some soap and water.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, and there's no political candidates. I mean I'm done
with that, right, No, I know we know my opinion
now on all the political candidates, So I'm done. I'm
done with all that.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
What about the ones that have nothing to do with politics,
like the Salt Life or.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Ron Johns? What is a Salt Life? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Somebody isn't that? Is it a brand?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
See? If I don't know what your bumper sticker means,
it's not a very good bumper sticker. Salt Life, like
you eat a lot of salt, you have a is
sodium diet? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Like surfer dude has it on there? I don't, Bronco.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I can tell a lot about you based on the
car that you drive. The vehicle and that's all I
need to know. Kev's van I'm barely has air conditioning. Guy,
you're jeep person.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I was gonna say, yeah, what does my vehicle say
about me?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Person?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Rough and tumbles?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I think the cars pretty much sum it up. keV
is van guy. I'm cheap, you're fun and sporty.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think I think it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Says a lot about You're listening to Kendallly Casey. It's
ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Casey question. Yes, have you ever inadvertently flipped somebody off?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Not inadvertently, I use great intention when I tell them
they're number one.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, so call me, call me suspect on those. But
Jerry Jones, who is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys,
probably the most famous owner in all of professional sports
in North America, uh, flipped off off a group of people.
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The Cowboys were playing the Jets on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, they were at MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And Jerry Jones was on camera flipping off somebody we
don't know. And he has now been fined by the
NFL for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, he
went on some radio. I guess he has his own
radio show. Well, I guess you're rich enough to own
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the Cowboys, you can have your own radio show.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Y, exactly the broadcast team to go along with it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, we're worth nine cents in of a radio show,
so surely he went too right, and he described it
as quote es according to NFL dot Com, inadvertent.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And he's unintentional.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He said, the gesture was inadvertent on my part because
that was right after we made our last touchdown and
we were all excited about it. There wasn't any any
antagonistic issue or anything like that. I just put up
the wrong show on the hand that inadvertently got that
was inadvertently done. If you want to call it accidentally,
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you can call it accidental. Okay. What could he have
been doing in which inadvertently his middle finger would have
been extended at people?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Like, hey, we're number one? You see that a lot
with towards like we're number one, number one, right, number one? Yeah,
we're wrong. That's the index finger, right.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Uh what.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean that's our fourth touchdown? You're putting up four?
Like what? I don't I don't understand how you could
inadvertently extend your middle finger at somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He said he was doing it aimed at the celebrating fans.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh no, there is. The intention was thumbs up.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Uh huh, yeah, that it was supposed to be a
thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, this is your thumb right.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
He chose his middle finger instead.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He claimed it was not done in anger or in disrespect.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
It was very quick as well.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Hey, Casey, we scored a touchdown. Yeah, I'm doing it
with two thumbs yeah. Yeah, you're number one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then there's that other finger, which means something completely.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't believe this for a second.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, it happened right after the fourth touchdown pass. And
now he's been fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
by the NFL.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But get this, he's appealing the fine.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, I mean, I guess why not. Is there some
sort of penalty? Does it find? I don't think it
gets enhanced if you lose.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
What's this guy's net worth?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Though he's eighty, I think Jerry Jones is like eighty
two years old. There's no way at eighty whatever years
Oldie is. He doesn't know the difference. Let's see if
let's see on the spot, keV, can you extend your
thumb in my direction to give me a thumbs up?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
He just did it. He did it, Casey, he chose correctly.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Can you extend your thumb in my direction?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I know you'd like to extend the other one, but
you're also doing it, Okay, So therefore I'm calling complete
bull crap on this.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah you think, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He's not the first owner who's been fine for fan
related incidents. David Tepper from the Panthers was fined three
hundred thousand dollars in twenty three for throwing a drink
at fans.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Was that seems very intentional?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That was a Tepper's the owner of the of the Panthers,
I think right, the Carolina Panthers was that last.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Year in twenty three. I mean what you will? The
drink slipped.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah. Here's the thing. If I were this rich, m
y'all would never see me. Other than when I was
a kid. There was an inspector gadget cartoon and the
main bad guy that he was always chasing after. There
were always like various bad guys, but they were connected
to this one main bad guy who you never saw
his head. You just saw him petting the cat at
the end. That would be me. If I were as
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rich as Jerry Jones, all of my messaging and contact
with the outside world would come via video board, right
that I would just I would that way I could
edit it, transcribe it well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Because you've already stated that if you were that rich,
you would just disappear in a big plot of land.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Those people would wonder whatever happened to Rob Ken.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But if I were the difference is, as a poor man,
I would be poor in a shack in the middle
of nowhere. As a rich man, I would have also
sorts of access to the outside world to inflict as
much damage as I possibly could. But the point is
I would think it through, and that way I could
kit edit or remove, and then I wouldn't know. A
tundred fifty thousand dollars fine, because I don't care how
rich you are. Paying Turner fifty thousand dollars for nothing
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would hurt. And that's what he's doing. He's paying Turner
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hell, here's something to consider. Bud Adams from the Titans.
He was fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say that was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
For flashing middle fingers at fans.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That was a long time ago. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is there no inflation affecting the middle finger? The price
has not gone up. It's the same fine.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Please tell me there's some sort of transcript that we're
going to get on this appeal because I want to
hear how he inadvertently gave a middle finger instead of
thumbs up.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It was an accident. I didn't mean that finger. I
meant thumbs up. Okay, sure.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So do you know what is the number one cause
of fights among couples? Not the owner and fans, but
among couples?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now, are these married or people who are just in
a relationship?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Just in a relationship, They can be married. The most
common reason couples.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Fight, Well, I don't know, because you know my approach
on things. And your husband thought this was I told
him this at Libby's birthday party and he thought it
was the most brilliant thing ever in all things. And
this is when you get seasoned in life. My approach
to whatever thing that is in front of me is
what do I want my life to look like thirty
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minutes from now?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So what does future Rob want to deal with?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah? And so it's really helped me. So I don't
know what do couples actually fight about?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
What is the most It's not money, nope, it's not sex, nope,
not parenting.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I would hope if you're just in a relationship. You're
not fighting about those things, because that should be a
red flag.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It is the tone of your voice.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Oh yeah, the sharp the sharp tone, maybe the eye
roll a sigh, study say it's uh. That is the
number one cause of fights because you remember how it
made you feel.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Oh yeah, I've always been told that my looks have tones.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I've never actually, well, i've seen you mad never.
You kind of got mad at me the other day,
but I've never seen you like really mad before. I
think that'd be fun. That's gonna be my goal to
see if I can make you really mad at some point.
I feel like it'd be like Ned. There's an episode
of The Simpsons where Ned Flanders, the do gooder neighbor
of Homer and the Simpsons, gets driven to insanity and
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he just has explodes. I feel like that's how it
might be for you. I want to see if I
can just drive you to explode.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You walked right up to that line the other day.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I did, I know, and I knew, and I'm so good.
I've gotten so good at this point I know when
I've actually probably like done it and then I told you,
oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah you did you apologize. That was very nice.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I once I got told this years ago by a girlfriend.
She said that. She said, the problem with you is
your tone. It's your tone, right, And I said, well,
I always have the same tone. She said, that's the problem.
You're always a sarcastic ass to everything. Change your voice
that are supposed to be serious. I said, but everything's
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funny to me. She said, that's the problem. That's why
this isn't working between us.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, Well, this study says that tone carries emotional weight,
and small changes in voice can feel like blame, indifference
or contempnt.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You're very good with the contempnt.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, this is what I told her.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I said.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Wait a second, I said, well, I said, you knew
when we got together what you signed up for or
wherever we are six months into this thing now or
relationship or whatever. I said. She goes, well, it was
fun when we first started dating. It's not fun now
when it never changes, right.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
She expected you to soften up over time.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But I, in fairness, I told him when we started.
I said, look, this is not an act. H huh,
this is what you're getting. This is I've told people
many times in friendships, relationships, whatever over the years, what
you in case you'll back me up on that. Now,
what you see is what you get. I am a sarcastic,
contemptful ass.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Okay, well, here's what you're supposed to do, Rob, I
need you to pay It would have been healthful fifteen
years ago. But go ahead, attention to me, pause and
correct it in the moment you're supposed to say, sorry,
that came out a little sharp. Let me try again,
or that's not how I meant it. Here's what I mean,
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and just a few small tweaks shows self awareness and
can help avoid bigger fights.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I got this with my wife the other night because
I did something and in my attempt to live by
my creed of what do I want my life to
be thirty minutes from now? Yeah, I looked at her
and I said, I'm sorry, oh nice, and she goes,
I don't believe you, and I said, well, you're right,
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you shouldn't. But what else do you want me to do?
I'm just trying to get out of this thing to
avoid the conflict. I've accepted responsibility, even if I don't
believe it's my responsibility. How can you be a better
husband than that?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, well, you admitted you were wrong, you took you know,
you apologize.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Did you take corrective action? Did you change your tone?
Missing that third step?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, but I don't think there really was corrective action.
I think she just wanted to be mad at me,
and then I took the bait and should have just
found a better way to get to the what do
I want my life to be thirty minutes from now?
And instead, because I wasn't really sorry, I said I'm sorry,
and then that just made it worse. Yeah, and then
I had to restart the clock and what I want
my right?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
If you need to reset the conversation, you need to say,
let's start over. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm an hour into this thing.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Abdul's gonna join us next.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
What's we're gonna we're gonna talk about? What are we
gonn talk? We're gonna talk about the Secretary of State race.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh okay, perfect, that's on the way from ninety three WYVC.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So bye. In the race, let's find out what we
settled lending out the street for lust of two hundred
West Washington, where we talk about going inside the bowels
of the State House. Nobody better than this guy, Thank you.
I'm a proctologist. Congrat Thank you, sir. That's right the
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bottom with the portions of death perception on top of it.
Abdual games of Jabbaz joins us now and aren operator
of ndipolitics dot Org. Abdul keeps Jabaz, Hello.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I'm geting way to work on my next column about
bow bye, and I was thinking of a title and
it's like, OK, I gotta get all instinct bye bye bias.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
What the title is going to be?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sure? Absolutely all right. So we've had a couple of
days now to digest that the son of Evan by,
former governor and senator in Indiana is running for secretary
of State. What have you heard from the the people
inside the political class. What are they saying kind of
off the record, what's the perception about his entry to
the race.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
It is really energized in the Democrats, and a way
they have been energized in a really, really really long time,
almost to the point of two thousand and eight when
Barack Obamacdorf became President one Indiana. Back during that election,
when you beat John McCain, they're really excited, really energetically,
really enthusiastic about it because Bobya is sort of a
bridget he the by Naman like. He brings back a
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lot of the old timers, some of the Democrat money
that may have gone away for a while. You can
also energize younger voters. No fresher face. The guy looks like,
looks like he's out of Central casting. No six' two square,
chin blonde.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Hair you know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
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Speaker 3 (31:58):
It he got.
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that being, said and we talked about this a little
bit On state a.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Vehicle by the way. Too what what?
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If and we pondered this when he made the. Announcement
we all just assume because his name is by and you're,
right he looks straight out Of Central, casting and he's
going to have the the machine behind him and the
money and everything. Else but are we make are we
being presumptuous to presume he's going to be some sort
of great candidate that Gives democrats a Showt what if he?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Stinks, oh and he's already he already made a misstep
in their first campaign that they've got to put the.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Disclaimer do you have to do?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That you have to on the ONLINE i think this
is this is running for public office is very. Complicated
and somebody had said at one point that there were
based on where the ad runs or. Whatever but you're,
right you should always put it. On, yeah just just
for just for good safety. Measure AND i was a
bit surprised BECAUSE i was talking about democratic insider friends
like a duel that was that was kind of a
(32:58):
rookie mistake because the buyers are really good at uh
dotting all the eyes and crossing all the. Team, yeah
when you run for city, council you know you got
to put the disclaimer.
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Twitch my response, was so here's the, thought and this
is get really. Conspiratory ill go down rabbit. Hole maybe
they did it on.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Purpose oh yeah, yeah like WHAT i.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Mean they don't purple think about. It you don't know
purpose that way like, hey you screwed, up blah. Blah
that way you're like he's going to be a. Cakewalk
you totally. Underestimate, yeah you're. Reaching, yeah of course it was.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
REACHING i think YOU'RE i think you're reaching. There next
thing you're telling meus we didn't land on the, moon all,
Right so because the world is, flat you got you
got you got that. MISTAKE i Like James briggs and
friend of our show and on our on on this,
program and and good on him getting the. Interview but
the idea that you do this interview with the with
The Indie star columnists in a house that doesn't have
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furniture and the knock on you as you don't live,
here and he mentioned that in the article that seemed
to be a big mess up too in my.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Opinion, yes but here's the thing, though For republicans to
Attack Evan bye said he doesn't live, Here Bo, bye
bobye here either have we? Met because remember jaeglem are
the whole thing about the. Vote the right had A Henderson,
county A Hamilton county, residents but voted In Hinderson county.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And had all those.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
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careful be careful that the stick you throw because it
could be a. Boomerang, well, okay so if indeed it
ends up bow bye Versus Diego, morales we're going to
find out about a bunch of. Stuff there's a, likely
a high likelihood were gonna find out a bunch Stuffbout.
(34:27):
Diego we have longed to get to the bottom of
because the buy. Machine, LOOK i will give Bow bye
credit in these Interviews i've seen him do so. Far
he's bringing the. Smoke he'll get better at bringing the.
Smoke and he's saying all the things in a much
nicer way than we do on this. Program but about
Who Diego morales. Is And diego may not want to
(34:48):
tell people who paid For, india but the, buys they're
probably gonna figure it.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Out and my money is somebody with the by campaign
probably has a couple chea cheaps descriptions as.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well that's the, thing, Right so The, republicans because The
republicans circled the wagon pretty, quick and it was like
the egregious behavior From diego for all of, this the
three years he's been in, office and not a peep
out of you. People and now you guys come out
and are losing your minds over where Bo bai has actually.
Lived like, now oh now everybody's.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
A now residency? Matter, YEAH i mean you. Know so
it is interesting. Too he is already exposing who These
republicans are where decency in, office integrity in, office ethical,
behavior it means nothing to these people because every single
one of them knows What diego.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Is AND i think THE i Think republicans have a
they've they've made a deal with the, devil sort of
A fastian, bargain which, is we need the we can't Stand,
diego but we need the. Office which is WHY i
wouldn't be surprised if there's a push to Get Dave,
shelton who's a secretary they can to win at the
state convention so they can Get diego sort of out
(35:54):
of the.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Picture, well it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Does we talked about this in state. Else happenings of
duel is our. Guest it does now put new onus
on The republicans to, say, hey if It's, diego and
by the, way if You're Dan elliott the state treasurer
or at Least ashalla at the, comptroller and they got
to run for, reelection don't you have to speak up
at somebody because they don't want to run With, diego
certainly not if It's diego against against Bow. Bye doesn't
(36:18):
somebody have to be an adult and, go, Hey David
shelton's The Knox county. Clerk he's as boring as that
wall behind, you but he's really, confident and he's really
boring And as long as we just run Generic, republicans
we'll be. Fine doesn't don't these other statewide people have to, Go,
HEY i got A i got some skin in the
game in. This you gotta.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Go but let's let's let's do it this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Way Whenever i'm in the State house, hallways they run
Into Dan elliott Or Alista shalla Like madame com, trailer
how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Doing? So how's That Diego moralis?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Going it just gives that polite, smile like she gets
her teeth and politely walks.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Away but they're. Not why doesn't anybody ever speak? Up
nobody ever speaks. Up Dave sheldon put a press release
out about Bow, bye and you're just reading this, going
you got a lot of work to do to run
against Bow. Bye you don't do any of this With Diego.
Morales you should be putting this same sort of vigor
and energy into what a rotten not only, candidate not only,
(37:11):
officeholder but Individual Diego morales.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Is.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
SEE i think that was more for the for the
delegates at the convention next year than then for us
in the, news in the news media business and the general,
public because, like, hey, NO i can take on Bow
BYE i point out, this point out, this point out,
This this is why you should nominate.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Me now you're interviewing bow.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Bye, YES i interviewed him this afternoon and the interview
will run be a post On Any politics probably tomorrow
and on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Show very.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Good find him over At indie politics dot org And
bill Give. Shabaz thank, you thank. You that's gonna do
it for us. Today thank you to you the listener as,
always fabulous. Job thank you To, Casey kevin and stick
Around Tony. Katz coming up, Next Kevil Casey show ninety
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