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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We may have a winner for the worst tire in
human history, do we Now, Look, we don't do a
lot of sports on this show because we have a
fabulous sports station one oh seven five ninety three to
five the Fan where you can get all your sports information.
But we do do sports when it sort of transcends
into regular society. And this next topic, I am enthralled
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by it because to me, it was so obvious this
was going to happen. Yet I think it is sort
of a prime example of the culture and society in
which we live now, where money runs everything. The click,
the headline, the eyeball is the path the money. An
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actual substance or performance isn't really all that important anymore.
I mean it is to some extent, but this seemed
pretty obvious to me.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Bill Belichick is the coach of North Carolina's football team.
He was He's best known, obviously as the coach of
the Patriots for many many years, was closing in before
he was finally they parted ways the Patriots in Belichick
was closing in on the all time wins record held
by Don Shula and sat out a year, couldn't get hired.
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He's known as a very standoff. It's hard to work
with person. Kind of in the waning years of the Patriots,
it kind of became clear after Brady left. Hey, maybe
that was more Brady and less You, because Brady seemed
to do just fine in Tampa Bay and you stinksville
once Brady left, So no NFL team would hire him.
And then he ends up taking this job at North Carolina.
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No college football coaching experience and I'm aware of certainly
in recent memory. And at the same time, he gets
in this relationship with a woman who is literally, I
think almost fifty years younger than him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Who graduated from North Carolina and sort.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Of becomes his business manager. But she's not just behind
the scenes. She's on the field. She's around him all
the time. You have to do like various requests through her.
And so he takes this job at North Carolina, and
everybody who knows anything about football is looking at this
going one. Why would they hire him? He has no
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skill set that would translate to college He's a horrible
in terms of his person to person interaction, which is
all the recruiting game basically is. He has no experience
whatsoever with the college recruiting system, the nil, the ever
changing landscape, and he also has no success record of
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winning in college football. Why would they hire this guy?
And then the counter side to it is why would
he take the job? Because there's nothing about this game
you need it. It doesn't need money, there's nothing about it.
And to say we're setting you up for success here,
You're going to be really good at this and you
realize everybody was sort of in the same soup together,
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which was something really bad is about to happen because
all we care about are headlines, eyeballs, clicks, publicity, money,
and it has thus far case he failed in a
spectacular fashion.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, it's interesting to note that his girlfriend can possibly
relate to the players better than he can. And now
his tenure there is in trouble. Reports are suggesting that
unc is already discussing firing him just five games into.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
His first season.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He was hired back in December of twenty four to
coach the tar Heels, and now his team is two
to three, including some blowouts to TCU and Clemson. The
program it's being described as dysfunctional, no kidding, with a
divided locker room, no kidding, disorganized coaching.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Staff, kidding.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And again you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Those frequent headlines about his personal life, particularly with his
twenty four year old girlfriend Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, and this is, this is and and the other
thing that was fascinating is that now apparently they pulled
the plug on this. They were supposed to be doing
some sort of documentary. I think it was for Hulu. Yes,
that was going to chronicle this football team, and it's
apparently going so poorly in there that the school, I
think it's the school has pulled.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The pulled the plug, unc canceled the Hulu doc And
so all of this is now, So now the behind
the scenes conversations.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Are they going to do a buy out? What does
the landing look like for Belichick? But I wanted to
touch on this and we could branch off into this
because Casey, look, you have you have hired many radio
personality over the years you spent I think most people
know this, but you spent years in management running not
just radio station stations, plural clusters of radio stations. You
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were in charge of lots of people. Of being a
boss is you got to know whether somebody has a
chance or success at something. Right if you're part of
your job. The onus is on you as the higher
to Okay, what are the odds this person is going
to succeed? Now, it doesn't always work out. Nobody has
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a crystal ball. But in the case of Bill Belichick,
if he's got to go, I say, the people who
hired him have to go to because we the lay
person should not be able to look at this. And
almost everybody was like, that is going to go very poorly.
And you put all of this in, don't you have
to hold the HIGHERR is accountable if you're going to
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indict the higher E.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, when you're looking at a twenty million dollar buyout,
I think so when you hire somebody, often you have
to look at their skill set, right, what they bring
to the table, But you also have to consider what
motivates that person?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Why do they want the job?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And you know, I mean there's all sorts of things
of the right cultural fit.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Do they have the.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Skill set, are they going to get along with all
their coworkers and everybody around them? Do we have the
tools for them to be a success. But I think
the motivation thing is a big one. What is that
person motivated by? And many times it's motivated by money.
They want the paycheck. They need a job, that's why
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they want it. What was someone like Bill Belichick? He
didn't need the money, So what was his motivation to
want to go there? Was it to prove he could.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Be successful in the college football world?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was it because that's where his girlfriend graduated from?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know, Like, why did he want that job?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well? And the girlfriend is super interesting to me because
again we're talking about a woman who is almost fifty
years younger than Belichick, And there's a what you came
up with a number of mathematical formula on when somebody's
too young to date? Then you tell me I thought
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there was some you divide something by something and at it,
and then I can't. I can't anyway. Point is I'm
the last person who's gonna say, indict some guy for
dating a woman younger than him. You know my theory
on as long as everybody's eligible to be in a bar,
everybody can all do the same stuff. At the age
is only a number. But it's one thing to steal
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a line from Seinfeld to say, hey, I'm seventy whatever
and she's twenty four, and we all know what's going
on here. We're all just having a good time, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It probably knows what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But there's a difference between I'm doing this and she's
just kind of taking my money, and I'm, you know,
will a wilful participant. He put her in charge by
many accounts of his life. Right, that's a huge difference
between I'm just dating some younger woman because she's a
broad ripple nine and a half yeap, she's.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Been seen on the sidelines multiple times, she's been photographed
speaking with the acc commissioner, And is it her presence
that is the source of all of the tension or
is it the both of them together or is it
just him? They said that he's been acting weird and
distant and some staff can't even reach him during a
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bye week, like he's just non communicato.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So anyway, I thought this was super fascinating that it's
sort of a microcosm of the society in which we live,
where we are now driven. And this is true in sports,
it seems true in business, it seems true in regular
people's exist many regular people's existence where headlines clicks, publicity,
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you know, that seems to matter most rather than productivity,
likelihood of success, the ability to just do a job.
By the way, did you ever have a really bad hire?
Was there somebody you ever hired and you were like, oh,
my gosh, I can't believe I did that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I had one employee once who argued with me that
they were being treated differently than like the Morning show,
and I said to him, well, you are different. They've
been a proven success, their unknown commodity. They've been here
for a decade. You just started last week and you're
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still trying to find where the bathroom is. So yeah,
the pay scale is going to be different. Everything about
it is going to be different.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But you never had some big, high profile person where
they put it on you and you said, this is
the person we need and then it totally blew up
in your face and they said, Casey.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, I vet people pretty good except for you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, you didn't hire me. That isn't your brother, That's true.
You didn't hire me.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, let's talk about one other thing that was a
little wonky. Katie Porter, California is gubernatorial hopeful. She tried
to end this interview abruptly after being asked about winning
over Trump voters.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Did you did you see this video?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I did, so, this is fascinating. I would actually like
to because I think there's a societal commentary here.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You want to take a break, talk about break?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, we'll play this audio because she is an insufferable
sea hag. And I think it's a great look into
who these politicians are. And I want to spend some
time on this.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, so you would tease this going to break the
Katie Porter? She is a what is she? She's a rep.
She's a California US Representative. She's a Democrat, or she's
a senator? Now what is she? She's a rep?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, she's running. Yeah, she's running for governor of California.
She is an insufferable sea hag. And she did some
interview where she basically kind of like lost it on.
Was it the reporter that she lost it on?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
She was being interviewed by CBS's Julie Watts, and Julie
Watts asked her a question same question he had asked
other candidates, what do you say to the forty percent
of California voters who voted for Trump? And Porter then
called the question unnecessarily argumentative, and then she tried to
remove her microphone and walk off.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We have the audio of this.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
We do.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Let's take a.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Listen, and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. As for the question is
you haven't written and all answer.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That well to those voters.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you ask.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Every other candidate has a I don't care.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation,
which you asked me about reissue on this list, and
if every question you're going to make up a follow
up question, then we're never going to get there and
we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative,
had to do this before ever.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You've never had to have an conversation to Okay, but
every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
What part of I'm me? I'm reading for governor because
I'm a leader, So I am going to make so.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why
don't we go through? I will continue to ask follow
up questions because that's my job as a journalist. But
I will go through and ask these and if you
don't want to answer, you don't want to answer, so
nearly every legislative.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience for the you,
and I don't want this all on camera.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about
and readisserit tak it's a massive issue. We're going to
do an entire story just on the responses to that question,
and if asked everybody the same follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
She didn't want to do that on camera. She doesn't
want to have an unhappy experience. What did she expect
they were going to brush each other's hair?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, there's so many things I wanted to get to
with this. That's why I wanted to save it for
its own segment because now there's stuff started to come
out about her that video clips, other accounts that she's
just her short temper, rotten human being. But it really
is an insight into a couple things about these politicians,
because it's not like she's a Democrat. But there was
a big X was eight years ago about and I
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think it was Politico on how horrendous it is to
work for Todd Rokita. I think when he was still
a congressman, they did this and it was just devastating
on what a just rotten person he is and how
he treats his staff and et cetera. You can go
back and find out again. I think it was Politico,
But these politicians, that was a real insight into their
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mindset one they think. And this is why we rarely
do guests on this program because we do very well
and we prove we don't need you. These politicians in
their minds, they believe they're needed in order for media
or television or radio programs to succeed. Well, how could
you succeed without the politicians? Most politicians are really boring
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and people turn the channel when they're on unless there's
some you know, pressing issue like Braun was on yesterday
with Hammer and Nigel a whole bunch of pressing issues.
He wasn't aware of many of them, but they would.
She should have been right, and that was the takeaway.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, and as Hammer said, hey, I want to get
him on record responding to this.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But a lot of times these politicians think, well, I'm
a senator, I'm a representative, I'm the governor. You need
to know they're really boring. That was her approach, right,
like who are you to ask me questions? Who are
you to try to make me take a position on
something I don't want to take a position on. She
didn't say it verbatim, but she was essentially saying I'm
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done here, and the insinuation was what are you going
to do without me? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Like you need me more than I need you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, it actually goes the other way around, and she
claimed that she had never had to do that before,
implying that she's never had to answer tough questions, and
her campaign went on to say that, you know, the
interview went on.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And lasted an extra twenty minutes after that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The other part of this, which is fascinating is, and
you'll see this with politicians, they do not want to
be held to account on things that they can't bs
their way through. And in that case, she looks at
it as well, if I admit something positive about a
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Trump voter, my base is so extreme, they might use
that against me the base of the Democrat Party, if
she were to say, because the obvious answer to that
would be, look, I'm going to try to win every
vote i can. I'm going to run on a list
of priorities, and I'm going to run on a list
of principles, and I look forward to selling that to
the people of this state and how my administration will
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make their lives. I mean, I'm just winging this right.
You can't respond to even better, and I'm gonna make
their lives better. And I hope that I can win
every single person, regardless of whether they voted for Donald
Trump or not. But in her mind. First of all,
she is a radical leftist, so she's telling you how
she views those people. But she also knows that her base,
the base of voters in a primary in California is
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so left in most cases now they do that, they
do that what I think they call it a jungle
primary in California, where it's not like Republicans have a
primary and Democrats have a primary. Everybody runs, and then
the top two people then run against each other in
the fall. Now, oftentimes it does end up being a
Republican or versus Democrat, but you could theoretically have two Democrats,
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or a Democrat and an independent or whatever. But she
knows the majority of people voting are going to be
so left that she can't answer that question in a
way that she can spin it. So she's just gonna
like indict the reporter.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who's asking her, right, And if she can't answer these
basic questions from a reporter being on the opposite political
side of the president, I mean, how is she expected
to stand up for what she wants when she goes
to DC or you know, has to deal with larger issues.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, you just hit the nail on the head. And
that's the third part of this thing that I wanted
to talk about, which is that they show you how
weak they actually are. Why did Braun stop talking to me?
You just talk to Braun and his people all the
time during property at tack, during the legislative session, because
they know it's done right. They exposed themselves. Instead of
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owning it and saying, hey Rob, we failed, Hey Rob,
we let you down, Hey Rob, we failed your audience
right and figure out how we could work together, they
just cut it off. Now they have those meetings, right,
They're still having these meetings that the governor's managed with
a lot of the same people they were talking to before.
But we don't get invited anymore. Why because they can't
manipulate us, they can't use us. They know we see
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through it, They know we don't need them, that we
don't view it as some sort of Oh I'm so
lucky I got invited to the place that I have
to pay for. And so she showed so much in
this interview, not just of who she is, but you
can extrapolate this out to so many of these politicians
and how they view any sense of accountability and how
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they view you as a taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
She's running to replace Gavin Newsom, and she was the
front runner with a seven point lead. I wonder what
it is now if this will affect her.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, that's what's interesting is she got like so often
these people will behave just like total imbeciles, and then
they'll spend it as I was fighting for so and
so right like a great example of this. We'll mention
him again, Todd Rokeita. He goes on Fox News and
behaves totally inappropriate for the Attorney General, which is why
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he's got all these issues in front of the Disciplinary Commission,
not because he had a First Amendment or an opinion
or whatever. Their rules and regulations as an attorney and
he has a very high bars attorney general, he did
not adhere to that right. That's why he signed that
that agreement, which then he went back on, and that's
why he's back in front of the commission again. And
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and but the point is he tries to spin this as, oh,
they're coming after my First Amendment rights, They're coming after
me because I'm pro life. They're coming No, moron, they're
coming after you because there are rules of conduct for
your profession and you did not adhere to those rules
of your profession. But I don't know how she's gonna
spin that because that reporter wasn't grilling her on any
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hot button topic that she can say.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Katie Border just didn't like the follow up exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
She just did like it's an unhinged, entitled, elitist, rotten
human being who exposed exactly what she is.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Johnie Johnie Johnnie Joys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So whatever I thought Dollar Parton was gonna die, well,
her sister put out a message saying she needed prayers
because she was having.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Some medical procedures done. And Dolly Parton, oh see.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is the problem. What like was she having Like
I got an ingrown toenail? I mean we still pray
for that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, No, they didn't say what the medical procedures were.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So you think, you see this and you think she's
having a medical procedure, she needs prayers. What did she have?
You know, some horrible bowel disease or like what is
going on here? And then people started a course at
social media and everybody starts jumping the gun and these
are the waning days of Dolly Parton. To the wine
where she had to come put a.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Video out right, Well she did.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
She had postponed her Las Vegas residency to focus on recovery.
But Dolly Parton did put out a message and she said,
I ain't dead yet.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Hey, Natalie, bring your camera over here.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I want to say something.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Well, the day's October the eighth, and obviously I'm here
doing some commercials for the Grand Ola Oppery, which just
why I'm driss, kind of like a old country Western girl.
But before I got started, I wanted to say, I
know lately everybody thinks that I am sicker than I am.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Do I look sick to you?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I'm working hard here anyway. I wanted to put everybody's
mind at ease. Those of you that seemed to be
real concern, which I appreciate, and I appreciate your prayers.
Because I'm a person of faith, I can always use
the prayers for anything and everything. But I want you
to know that I'm okay. I've got some problems. As
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I mentioned back when my husband Carl was very sick.
That was for a long time, and then when he passed,
I didn't take care of myself, so I let a
lot of things go that I should have been taken
care of. So anyway, when I got around to it,
the doctor said, we need to take care of this,
We need to take care of that. Nothing major, but
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I did have to cancel some things so I could
be closer to home, closer to van about you know where.
I'm kind of having a few treatments here and there.
But I wanted you to know that I'm not dying.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
She said she was going in for her one hundred
thousand mile check up. Okay, so she did say it
wasn't She said it wasn't related to plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Now she is seventy nine years old.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Her and I share a birthday.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You have the same birthday.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, well that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I didn't realize that. So she will. She will be
eighty next January. So we're not dealing with the spring
chicken here anymore. No, And she does sound much like
if you don't hear her every day. I mean, but
I'm sure anybody is that way if you go year like,
I just gotta admit I have not heard Dolly Parton's voice,
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and probably a year or more. Why would I, you know,
So she does sound like she's getting a little long
in the tooth. But again, this is like the world
in which we live or some person, and I'm sure
there was nothing malicious by It was the sister, right
who put this out, but you're not specific. And then
everybody rushes to conclusion, and you know, hopefully she'll be fine.
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She's a national treasure and sounds like she's doing better.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, just some routine stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
She said she didn't take care of herself when she
was taking care of her husband, so now she's got
to do that. But when you cancel a residency in
Las Vegas and then your sister puts out pray for Dolly, yeah,
people are going to jump to conclusions because, as you mentioned,
she is almost eighty. However, I don't know if you
saw the video from that we just played. She has
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no wrinkles anywhere.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, she's had some work, there's no there's no like yeah,
she's like, it is not okay. It is not natural
for people to be in their sixties and seventies and
not have wrinkles, Like, I'm sorry, you look ridiculous. And
so many of these celebrities do this now and that's
just part of the aging process, right, Like there's things
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you can do to maybe not be as wrink a
lee or whatever. But the idea that you're just like
it doesn't. It doesn't unless you're me, who doesn't age.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Or ever gain weight.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Then Okay, So she's continuing on. She launched a new
musical called Dolly Parton's Threads. My song's in symphony, and
she's continuing to perform, planning to open a hotel in
downtown Nashville. She's, like, she said, she's doing something for
the Grand Old Opery.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So she is continuing on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But that just goes to show you where people get
their news and where people have to put out their messages.
There was some new research that came out social media
playing a huge role in news consumption. Fifty three percent
of adults say that they get their news from social media.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, my question this would be when we say I
get my news from social media, do you mean like, hey,
there was a Fox News article linked on social media,
or my neighbor Harold was on social media. That would
be a question for me. I'm going to guess that
it also includes my neighbor on social media.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's an interesting point because are they talking just about
that's just the distribution.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
If it's an article that was on Facebook or x are.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We including like this was on the towny chatter board,
so you know what exactly does that entail? That would
probably be the first question I would have about this.
But the reality is people are now more and more
going away from traditional media sources. And there are traditional
medias that like us, that continue to do very well.
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But a large part of that is we give people
things that can't get anywhere else, and most legacy media
type institutions have not had the sustained success WIBC, this show,
et cetera has had. It's just easy to go somewhere else.
It's just easy when it's all on your phone. You
(26:12):
and I were having this conversation earlier today, in fact,
about the changing landscape of media. And you remember some
program director or some radio consultant twenty five years ago
telling you the about the iPod. The it was yeah,
the three Players.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was a consultant in the year was two thousand
and he had just come back from a trip over
in Europe and he was saying, how you guys don't
even know what's coming, because over in Europe those people
are walking around with twenty thousand songs in their hip
and you know, in their hip pocket. And that was
as MP three was coming out, and he said this
is all going to be on your phone. Just wait
(26:47):
and see. And there were people in the room who
were like, nah, that's not going to happen. And the
industry failed to adjust to that because it did happen.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, And look, the less you make people work, the
more they're going to gravitate to that thing. And the
reality is, if there's something in your pocket, something and
you can just pull it out at any given time
and instantly search, people are going to be are going
to gravitate to that. And unless you give them a
(27:20):
compelling reason to go somewhere else. I mean, the internet
is a crazy thing. My dad and I were having
a conversation yesterday and we were talking about an obscure person.
Not to say the person's life didn't matter whatever, but
we were talking about an obscure person. Like nobody would
know this person. You know, they weren't famous, not like
(27:42):
even they had a moment. And the sun is just
like an obscure person. And we were having a debate
about this person, and it was able to look it up,
and of course I was right, of course that I
was saying. Sure, But it's like, that's wild that we
have reached that point in our society where you can
reach into your pocket, let me check beat beat, beat
beat beep. Oh yeah, that's that's what happened. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, you know what the dude does a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We'll be watching a show, whether it's this series or
something historical, and as it is on the television, he'll
be on his phone looking up all of the information
about the person to see if Hollywood exaggerated or how
truthful the script actually is. Right.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And you've seen, like I said, you've seen with legacy
media in this city, like the paper of record is
the Star, the radio station of record is WIBC, and
you have seen how the Star has obviously shifted, not exclusively,
but getting there more and more by the day to
an online footprint. The sort of and style of reporting
(28:48):
they do has had to change, and you've seen changes
here with how the radio business works. I mean, look,
one of the unique things about the a unique thing
about WIBC is every one of our shows are different.
Like what Tony does is markedly different from what we do.
What we do is markedly different what Hammer in Nigel does.
(29:11):
And an interesting thing is there is often not oftentimes,
but a lot of times. I guess that's the same
word more frequently than not, conflict of opinion. Like we
view redistricting much different than Tony does yep, and we
view other things different than Hammer and Nigel do, And
so you don't just get the same opinion throughout the
(29:32):
course of the day. And so that is something you
can't get anywhere. So people still come here. But other
than that, radio is a collective, it's it's struggled.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I was shocked to see this statistic.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The most popular platform for news. What do you think
it is of social media? I would say Twitter, that's
where conservatives get their news the most, but Facebook, it
goes Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and then x.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, Twitter's last, Twitter's last.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Overall, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three, w ib.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
C, Jilly Johnny.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
They don't take it even though you care.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know, it's Amy and Casey.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
The AI stuff is totally out of control eyed place
it is.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And I don't know if you've seen a lot of
the AI videos circulating.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Right now, but you've got a bunch with Bob Ross
where he's doing different paintings, and you have JFK and MLK.
There's one of JFK where he's a disc jockey at
a club. Sure, and Stephen Hawking doing all sorts of
tricks in his wheelchair. And now the daughter of Robin
(31:00):
Williams has come out and she on Instagram Monday said
please stop sending me ai videos of my dad.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh okay, so, of course, Robin Williams, what has this
been ten years ago? Now, I don't know exactly when
it was. It's been quite a while though most people
are where you he committed suicide, famous comedian actor, and
then you know, documentaries, et cetera have come out that
he had serious mental health issues, struggled with the variety
(31:29):
of things over many many years. And I'm sure even
you know, even though she's an adult now and I
believe she was even an adult when he had passed away.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That she's thirty six.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, right, so, cause there was a very good documentary
done about kind of the last days of Robin Williams
and the mental health struggles and and but I'm sure
even as an adult being able to sort of process
certainly better than you would as a child. Losing a
parent in that manner is just a level of grief
(32:02):
beyond description. And then your parent is super famous, so
you're constantly reminded of them, and now people are doing
things and sending you things that aren't even them.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, she said that you're not making art.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You're making disgusting overprocessed hot dogs out of the lives
of human beings, out of the history of their art
and music, then shoving them down someone else's throat hoping
you'll get a little thumbs up or alike.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Well, it's gross.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So you had in a good point, which is for
all this huffing and puffing about Well, AI is going
to change the future of medicine and all these and
very well made makes sten lives, and that's wonderful. But
ninety five percent of the stuff AI appears to currently
be being used for, at least in the visual of
the average American member of the American public, is garbage.
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It in no way betters humanity, It in no way
makes human life better, more sustainable, nothing. It's just people
screwing screwing around, right, And it's not in any way
contributing to the betterment of humanity, no offence of Hammer Nigel.
Their ais are very funny, but it's not like it's
life altering stuff, right, they're.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Just having some fun. Well, she brings up a good point.
She said, with all of this AI mimicking real voices
and likeness, you're doing that without the person's consent, and
especially if the person is no longer with us, they
clearly can't consent to that.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And I saw something with like mister Rogers in a
wrestling ring the other day, and I was like, what
what does this have to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How is this in any way contributing? Is this what
our data centers are excused for? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Exactly? Is this why my utility bill is going up?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So somebody can put a deceased famous person in awkward
situation or in a place they would never have been.
I mean, like the moment JFK I saw, he said,
ask not what your country can do for you, but
ask what you can do to shake that thing. And he's,
you know, being a disc jockey at a club.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And we've talked about this for several years now that
it's getting better. Oh yeah, it's much better than it
was a couple of years ago. And I don't know
if you're this way now, but every video I see
I now have to wait because I just there's a
part of me in my head that I say, is
that AI? Has that been doctored? Has that been messed with?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh? Sure there's a lot now, especially when I go
through and do the template. I got to make sure,
like there's multiple sources using that same quote to make
sure it's legit, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Or I just thought about it. The other day was
when the video came out on Mark Sanchez of him
stumbling around downtown after the altercation, and I thought, well,
that's an incredible video. But then I said, well, I'm
not sharing this yet because.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You don't know is it fake?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is it AI?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
And you don't want to be the person here who's
putting it out there as legitimate news. Somebody comes back
and says, hey, dork, yeah that's fake.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm not going to give somebody a freebie to say, hey, moron,
that wasn't real.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Zelda Williams, that is Robin Williams's daughter, she said that
all of this AI content is just horrible TikTok slop,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Fascinating too about how many people find some sort of
worth in making that their existence.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you mean creating?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yes, just making these videos.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, they're getting paid to do it because they're getting
well you're right, views, yeah, likes and hits off of it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They're benefiting off of somebody else's sorrow. In many cases, what.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Did these sort of people do before there was the Internet?
I mean, I get that many of these people weren't
even alive, but what did these people do? For these
types of people? How did they earn livings before the
Internet or how did they earn livings before a Twitter, Instagram?
Right talk? Where did they go? What did these sorts
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of people do to sustain themselves?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, they probably had a job that they did not like,
buried themselves in a basement behind a computer.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So anyway, well that's an uplifting story in the show today, Casey,
thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Well, you're the real deal, Rob Kendall, nothing ai about you.
Thank you, thank you, Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC
We may have a winner for the worst tire in
human history, do we Now, Look, we don't do a
lot of sports on this show because we have a
fabulous sports station one oh seven five ninety three to
five the Fan where you can get all your sports information.
But we do do sports when it sort of transcends
into regular society. And this next topic, I am enthralled
(00:26):
by it because to me, it was so obvious this
was going to happen. Yet I think it is sort
of a prime example of the culture and society in
which we live now, where money runs everything. The click,
the headline, the eyeball is the path the money. An
(00:52):
actual substance or performance isn't really all that important anymore.
I mean it is to some extent, but this seemed
pretty obvious to me.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Bill Belichick is the coach of North Carolina's football team.
He was He's best known, obviously as the coach of
the Patriots for many many years, was closing in before
he was finally they parted ways the Patriots in Belichick
was closing in on the all time wins record held
by Don Shula and sat out a year, couldn't get hired.
(01:23):
He's known as a very standoff. It's hard to work
with person. Kind of in the waning years of the Patriots,
it kind of became clear after Brady left. Hey, maybe
that was more Brady and less You, because Brady seemed
to do just fine in Tampa Bay and you stinksville
once Brady left, So no NFL team would hire him.
And then he ends up taking this job at North Carolina.
(01:45):
No college football coaching experience and I'm aware of certainly
in recent memory. And at the same time, he gets
in this relationship with a woman who is literally, I
think almost fifty years younger than him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Who graduated from North Carolina and sort.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Of becomes his business manager. But she's not just behind
the scenes. She's on the field. She's around him all
the time. You have to do like various requests through her.
And so he takes this job at North Carolina, and
everybody who knows anything about football is looking at this
going one. Why would they hire him? He has no
(02:29):
skill set that would translate to college He's a horrible
in terms of his person to person interaction, which is
all the recruiting game basically is. He has no experience
whatsoever with the college recruiting system, the nil, the ever
changing landscape, and he also has no success record of
(02:51):
winning in college football. Why would they hire this guy?
And then the counter side to it is why would
he take the job? Because there's nothing about this game
you need it. It doesn't need money, there's nothing about it.
And to say we're setting you up for success here,
You're going to be really good at this and you
realize everybody was sort of in the same soup together,
(03:13):
which was something really bad is about to happen because
all we care about are headlines, eyeballs, clicks, publicity, money,
and it has thus far case he failed in a
spectacular fashion.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, it's interesting to note that his girlfriend can possibly
relate to the players better than he can. And now
his tenure there is in trouble. Reports are suggesting that
unc is already discussing firing him just five games into.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
His first season.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He was hired back in December of twenty four to
coach the tar Heels, and now his team is two
to three, including some blowouts to TCU and Clemson. The
program it's being described as dysfunctional, no kidding, with a
divided locker room, no kidding, disorganized coaching.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Staff, kidding.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And again you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Those frequent headlines about his personal life, particularly with his
twenty four year old girlfriend Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, and this is, this is and and the other
thing that was fascinating is that now apparently they pulled
the plug on this. They were supposed to be doing
some sort of documentary. I think it was for Hulu. Yes,
that was going to chronicle this football team, and it's
apparently going so poorly in there that the school, I
think it's the school has pulled.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The pulled the plug, unc canceled the Hulu doc And
so all of this is now, So now the behind
the scenes conversations.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Are they going to do a buy out? What does
the landing look like for Belichick? But I wanted to
touch on this and we could branch off into this
because Casey, look, you have you have hired many radio
personality over the years you spent I think most people
know this, but you spent years in management running not
just radio station stations, plural clusters of radio stations. You
(04:57):
were in charge of lots of people. Of being a
boss is you got to know whether somebody has a
chance or success at something. Right if you're part of
your job. The onus is on you as the higher
to Okay, what are the odds this person is going
to succeed? Now, it doesn't always work out. Nobody has
(05:20):
a crystal ball. But in the case of Bill Belichick,
if he's got to go, I say, the people who
hired him have to go to because we the lay
person should not be able to look at this. And
almost everybody was like, that is going to go very poorly.
And you put all of this in, don't you have
to hold the HIGHERR is accountable if you're going to
(05:40):
indict the higher E.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, when you're looking at a twenty million dollar buyout,
I think so when you hire somebody, often you have
to look at their skill set, right, what they bring
to the table, But you also have to consider what
motivates that person?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Why do they want the job?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And you know, I mean there's all sorts of things
of the right cultural fit.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Do they have the.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Skill set, are they going to get along with all
their coworkers and everybody around them? Do we have the
tools for them to be a success. But I think
the motivation thing is a big one. What is that
person motivated by? And many times it's motivated by money.
They want the paycheck. They need a job, that's why
(06:20):
they want it. What was someone like Bill Belichick? He
didn't need the money, So what was his motivation to
want to go there? Was it to prove he could.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Be successful in the college football world?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was it because that's where his girlfriend graduated from?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know, Like, why did he want that job?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well? And the girlfriend is super interesting to me because
again we're talking about a woman who is almost fifty
years younger than Belichick, And there's a what you came
up with a number of mathematical formula on when somebody's
too young to date? Then you tell me I thought
(07:02):
there was some you divide something by something and at it,
and then I can't. I can't anyway. Point is I'm
the last person who's gonna say, indict some guy for
dating a woman younger than him. You know my theory
on as long as everybody's eligible to be in a bar,
everybody can all do the same stuff. At the age
is only a number. But it's one thing to steal
(07:23):
a line from Seinfeld to say, hey, I'm seventy whatever
and she's twenty four, and we all know what's going
on here. We're all just having a good time, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It probably knows what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
But there's a difference between I'm doing this and she's
just kind of taking my money, and I'm, you know,
will a wilful participant. He put her in charge by
many accounts of his life. Right, that's a huge difference
between I'm just dating some younger woman because she's a
broad ripple nine and a half yeap, she's.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Been seen on the sidelines multiple times, she's been photographed
speaking with the acc commissioner, And is it her presence
that is the source of all of the tension or
is it the both of them together or is it
just him? They said that he's been acting weird and
distant and some staff can't even reach him during a
(08:11):
bye week, like he's just non communicato.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So anyway, I thought this was super fascinating that it's
sort of a microcosm of the society in which we live,
where we are now driven. And this is true in sports,
it seems true in business, it seems true in regular
people's exist many regular people's existence where headlines clicks, publicity,
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you know, that seems to matter most rather than productivity,
likelihood of success, the ability to just do a job.
By the way, did you ever have a really bad hire?
Was there somebody you ever hired and you were like, oh,
my gosh, I can't believe I did that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I had one employee once who argued with me that
they were being treated differently than like the Morning show,
and I said to him, well, you are different. They've
been a proven success, their unknown commodity. They've been here
for a decade. You just started last week and you're
(09:21):
still trying to find where the bathroom is. So yeah,
the pay scale is going to be different. Everything about
it is going to be different.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But you never had some big, high profile person where
they put it on you and you said, this is
the person we need and then it totally blew up
in your face and they said, Casey.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, I vet people pretty good except for you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Well, you didn't hire me. That isn't your brother, That's true.
You didn't hire me.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, let's talk about one other thing that was a
little wonky. Katie Porter, California is gubernatorial hopeful. She tried
to end this interview abruptly after being asked about winning
over Trump voters.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Did you did you see this video?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I did, so, this is fascinating. I would actually like
to because I think there's a societal commentary here.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You want to take a break, talk about break?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, we'll play this audio because she is an insufferable
sea hag. And I think it's a great look into
who these politicians are. And I want to spend some
time on this.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, so you would tease this going to break the
Katie Porter? She is a what is she? She's a rep.
She's a California US Representative. She's a Democrat, or she's
a senator? Now what is she? She's a rep?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, she's running. Yeah, she's running for governor of California.
She is an insufferable sea hag. And she did some
interview where she basically kind of like lost it on.
Was it the reporter that she lost it on?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
She was being interviewed by CBS's Julie Watts, and Julie
Watts asked her a question same question he had asked
other candidates, what do you say to the forty percent
of California voters who voted for Trump? And Porter then
called the question unnecessarily argumentative, and then she tried to
remove her microphone and walk off.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We have the audio of this.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
We do.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Let's take a.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Listen, and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. As for the question is
you haven't written and all answer.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That well to those voters.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you ask.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Every other candidate has a I don't care.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation,
which you asked me about reissue on this list, and
if every question you're going to make up a follow
up question, then we're never going to get there and
we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative,
had to do this before ever.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You've never had to have an conversation to Okay, but
every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
What part of I'm me? I'm reading for governor because
I'm a leader, So I am going to make so.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why
don't we go through? I will continue to ask follow
up questions because that's my job as a journalist. But
I will go through and ask these and if you
don't want to answer, you don't want to answer, so
nearly every legislative.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience for the you,
and I don't want this all on camera.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about
and readisserit tak it's a massive issue. We're going to
do an entire story just on the responses to that question,
and if asked everybody the same follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
She didn't want to do that on camera. She doesn't
want to have an unhappy experience. What did she expect
they were going to brush each other's hair?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, there's so many things I wanted to get to
with this. That's why I wanted to save it for
its own segment because now there's stuff started to come
out about her that video clips, other accounts that she's
just her short temper, rotten human being. But it really
is an insight into a couple things about these politicians,
because it's not like she's a Democrat. But there was
a big X was eight years ago about and I
(13:29):
think it was Politico on how horrendous it is to
work for Todd Rokita. I think when he was still
a congressman, they did this and it was just devastating
on what a just rotten person he is and how
he treats his staff and et cetera. You can go
back and find out again. I think it was Politico,
But these politicians, that was a real insight into their
(13:50):
mindset one they think. And this is why we rarely
do guests on this program because we do very well
and we prove we don't need you. These politicians in
their minds, they believe they're needed in order for media
or television or radio programs to succeed. Well, how could
you succeed without the politicians? Most politicians are really boring
(14:13):
and people turn the channel when they're on unless there's
some you know, pressing issue like Braun was on yesterday
with Hammer and Nigel a whole bunch of pressing issues.
He wasn't aware of many of them, but they would.
She should have been right, and that was the takeaway.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, and as Hammer said, hey, I want to get
him on record responding to this.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But a lot of times these politicians think, well, I'm
a senator, I'm a representative, I'm the governor. You need
to know they're really boring. That was her approach, right,
like who are you to ask me questions? Who are
you to try to make me take a position on
something I don't want to take a position on. She
didn't say it verbatim, but she was essentially saying I'm
(14:49):
done here, and the insinuation was what are you going
to do without me? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Like you need me more than I need you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, it actually goes the other way around, and she
claimed that she had never had to do that before,
implying that she's never had to answer tough questions, and
her campaign went on to say that, you know, the
interview went on.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And lasted an extra twenty minutes after that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The other part of this, which is fascinating is, and
you'll see this with politicians, they do not want to
be held to account on things that they can't bs
their way through. And in that case, she looks at
it as well, if I admit something positive about a
(15:33):
Trump voter, my base is so extreme, they might use
that against me the base of the Democrat Party, if
she were to say, because the obvious answer to that
would be, look, I'm going to try to win every
vote i can. I'm going to run on a list
of priorities, and I'm going to run on a list
of principles, and I look forward to selling that to
the people of this state and how my administration will
(15:56):
make their lives. I mean, I'm just winging this right.
You can't respond to even better, and I'm gonna make
their lives better. And I hope that I can win
every single person, regardless of whether they voted for Donald
Trump or not. But in her mind. First of all,
she is a radical leftist, so she's telling you how
she views those people. But she also knows that her base,
the base of voters in a primary in California is
(16:17):
so left in most cases now they do that, they
do that what I think they call it a jungle
primary in California, where it's not like Republicans have a
primary and Democrats have a primary. Everybody runs, and then
the top two people then run against each other in
the fall. Now, oftentimes it does end up being a
Republican or versus Democrat, but you could theoretically have two Democrats,
(16:41):
or a Democrat and an independent or whatever. But she
knows the majority of people voting are going to be
so left that she can't answer that question in a
way that she can spin it. So she's just gonna
like indict the reporter.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who's asking her, right, And if she can't answer these
basic questions from a reporter being on the opposite political
side of the president, I mean, how is she expected
to stand up for what she wants when she goes
to DC or you know, has to deal with larger issues.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, you just hit the nail on the head. And
that's the third part of this thing that I wanted
to talk about, which is that they show you how
weak they actually are. Why did Braun stop talking to me?
You just talk to Braun and his people all the
time during property at tack, during the legislative session, because
they know it's done right. They exposed themselves. Instead of
(17:32):
owning it and saying, hey Rob, we failed, Hey Rob,
we let you down, Hey Rob, we failed your audience
right and figure out how we could work together, they
just cut it off. Now they have those meetings, right,
They're still having these meetings that the governor's managed with
a lot of the same people they were talking to before.
But we don't get invited anymore. Why because they can't
manipulate us, they can't use us. They know we see
(17:53):
through it, They know we don't need them, that we
don't view it as some sort of Oh I'm so
lucky I got invited to the place that I have
to pay for. And so she showed so much in
this interview, not just of who she is, but you
can extrapolate this out to so many of these politicians
and how they view any sense of accountability and how
(18:13):
they view you as a taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
She's running to replace Gavin Newsom, and she was the
front runner with a seven point lead. I wonder what
it is now if this will affect her.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, that's what's interesting is she got like so often
these people will behave just like total imbeciles, and then
they'll spend it as I was fighting for so and
so right like a great example of this. We'll mention
him again, Todd Rokeita. He goes on Fox News and
behaves totally inappropriate for the Attorney General, which is why
(18:47):
he's got all these issues in front of the Disciplinary Commission,
not because he had a First Amendment or an opinion
or whatever. Their rules and regulations as an attorney and
he has a very high bars attorney general, he did
not adhere to that right. That's why he signed that
that agreement, which then he went back on, and that's
why he's back in front of the commission again. And
(19:09):
and but the point is he tries to spin this as, oh,
they're coming after my First Amendment rights, They're coming after
me because I'm pro life. They're coming No, moron, they're
coming after you because there are rules of conduct for
your profession and you did not adhere to those rules
of your profession. But I don't know how she's gonna
spin that because that reporter wasn't grilling her on any
(19:32):
hot button topic that she can say.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Katie Border just didn't like the follow up exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
She just did like it's an unhinged, entitled, elitist, rotten
human being who exposed exactly what she is.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Johnie Johnie Johnnie Joys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So whatever I thought Dollar Parton was gonna die, well,
her sister put out a message saying she needed prayers
because she was having.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Some medical procedures done. And Dolly Parton, oh see.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is the problem. What like was she having Like
I got an ingrown toenail? I mean we still pray
for that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, No, they didn't say what the medical procedures were.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So you think, you see this and you think she's
having a medical procedure, she needs prayers. What did she have?
You know, some horrible bowel disease or like what is
going on here? And then people started a course at
social media and everybody starts jumping the gun and these
are the waning days of Dolly Parton. To the wine
where she had to come put a.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Video out right, Well she did.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
She had postponed her Las Vegas residency to focus on recovery.
But Dolly Parton did put out a message and she said,
I ain't dead yet.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Hey, Natalie, bring your camera over here.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I want to say something.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Well, the day's October the eighth, and obviously I'm here
doing some commercials for the Grand Ola Oppery, which just
why I'm driss, kind of like a old country Western girl.
But before I got started, I wanted to say, I
know lately everybody thinks that I am sicker than I am.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Do I look sick to you?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I'm working hard here anyway. I wanted to put everybody's
mind at ease. Those of you that seemed to be
real concern, which I appreciate, and I appreciate your prayers.
Because I'm a person of faith, I can always use
the prayers for anything and everything. But I want you
to know that I'm okay. I've got some problems. As
(21:34):
I mentioned back when my husband Carl was very sick.
That was for a long time, and then when he passed,
I didn't take care of myself, so I let a
lot of things go that I should have been taken
care of. So anyway, when I got around to it,
the doctor said, we need to take care of this,
We need to take care of that. Nothing major, but
(21:55):
I did have to cancel some things so I could
be closer to home, closer to van about you know where.
I'm kind of having a few treatments here and there.
But I wanted you to know that I'm not dying.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
She said she was going in for her one hundred
thousand mile check up. Okay, so she did say it
wasn't She said it wasn't related to plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Now she is seventy nine years old.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Her and I share a birthday.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You have the same birthday.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, well that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I didn't realize that. So she will. She will be
eighty next January. So we're not dealing with the spring
chicken here anymore. No, And she does sound much like
if you don't hear her every day. I mean, but
I'm sure anybody is that way if you go year like,
I just gotta admit I have not heard Dolly Parton's voice,
(22:46):
and probably a year or more. Why would I, you know,
So she does sound like she's getting a little long
in the tooth. But again, this is like the world
in which we live or some person, and I'm sure
there was nothing malicious by It was the sister, right
who put this out, but you're not specific. And then
everybody rushes to conclusion, and you know, hopefully she'll be fine.
(23:09):
She's a national treasure and sounds like she's doing better.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, just some routine stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
She said she didn't take care of herself when she
was taking care of her husband, so now she's got
to do that. But when you cancel a residency in
Las Vegas and then your sister puts out pray for Dolly, yeah,
people are going to jump to conclusions because, as you mentioned,
she is almost eighty. However, I don't know if you
saw the video from that we just played. She has
(23:41):
no wrinkles anywhere.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, she's had some work, there's no there's no like yeah,
she's like, it is not okay. It is not natural
for people to be in their sixties and seventies and
not have wrinkles, Like, I'm sorry, you look ridiculous. And
so many of these celebrities do this now and that's
just part of the aging process, right, Like there's things
(24:06):
you can do to maybe not be as wrink a
lee or whatever. But the idea that you're just like
it doesn't. It doesn't unless you're me, who doesn't age.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Or ever gain weight.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Then Okay, So she's continuing on. She launched a new
musical called Dolly Parton's Threads. My song's in symphony, and
she's continuing to perform, planning to open a hotel in
downtown Nashville. She's, like, she said, she's doing something for
the Grand Old Opery.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So she is continuing on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But that just goes to show you where people get
their news and where people have to put out their messages.
There was some new research that came out social media
playing a huge role in news consumption. Fifty three percent
of adults say that they get their news from social media.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, my question this would be when we say I
get my news from social media, do you mean like, hey,
there was a Fox News article linked on social media,
or my neighbor Harold was on social media. That would
be a question for me. I'm going to guess that
it also includes my neighbor on social media.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's an interesting point because are they talking just about
that's just the distribution.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
If it's an article that was on Facebook or x are.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We including like this was on the towny chatter board,
so you know what exactly does that entail? That would
probably be the first question I would have about this.
But the reality is people are now more and more
going away from traditional media sources. And there are traditional
medias that like us, that continue to do very well.
(25:51):
But a large part of that is we give people
things that can't get anywhere else, and most legacy media
type institutions have not had the sustained success WIBC, this show,
et cetera has had. It's just easy to go somewhere else.
It's just easy when it's all on your phone. You
(26:12):
and I were having this conversation earlier today, in fact,
about the changing landscape of media. And you remember some
program director or some radio consultant twenty five years ago
telling you the about the iPod. The it was yeah,
the three Players.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It was a consultant in the year was two thousand
and he had just come back from a trip over
in Europe and he was saying, how you guys don't
even know what's coming, because over in Europe those people
are walking around with twenty thousand songs in their hip
and you know, in their hip pocket. And that was
as MP three was coming out, and he said this
is all going to be on your phone. Just wait
(26:47):
and see. And there were people in the room who
were like, nah, that's not going to happen. And the
industry failed to adjust to that because it did happen.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, And look, the less you make people work, the
more they're going to gravitate to that thing. And the
reality is, if there's something in your pocket, something and
you can just pull it out at any given time
and instantly search, people are going to be are going
to gravitate to that. And unless you give them a
(27:20):
compelling reason to go somewhere else. I mean, the internet
is a crazy thing. My dad and I were having
a conversation yesterday and we were talking about an obscure person.
Not to say the person's life didn't matter whatever, but
we were talking about an obscure person. Like nobody would
know this person. You know, they weren't famous, not like
(27:42):
even they had a moment. And the sun is just
like an obscure person. And we were having a debate
about this person, and it was able to look it up,
and of course I was right, of course that I
was saying. Sure, But it's like, that's wild that we
have reached that point in our society where you can
reach into your pocket, let me check beat beat, beat
beat beep. Oh yeah, that's that's what happened. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, you know what the dude does a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We'll be watching a show, whether it's this series or
something historical, and as it is on the television, he'll
be on his phone looking up all of the information
about the person to see if Hollywood exaggerated or how
truthful the script actually is. Right.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And you've seen, like I said, you've seen with legacy
media in this city, like the paper of record is
the Star, the radio station of record is WIBC, and
you have seen how the Star has obviously shifted, not exclusively,
but getting there more and more by the day to
an online footprint. The sort of and style of reporting
(28:48):
they do has had to change, and you've seen changes
here with how the radio business works. I mean, look,
one of the unique things about the a unique thing
about WIBC is every one of our shows are different.
Like what Tony does is markedly different from what we do.
What we do is markedly different what Hammer in Nigel does.
(29:11):
And an interesting thing is there is often not oftentimes,
but a lot of times. I guess that's the same
word more frequently than not, conflict of opinion. Like we
view redistricting much different than Tony does yep, and we
view other things different than Hammer and Nigel do, And
so you don't just get the same opinion throughout the
(29:32):
course of the day. And so that is something you
can't get anywhere. So people still come here. But other
than that, radio is a collective, it's it's struggled.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I was shocked to see this statistic.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The most popular platform for news. What do you think
it is of social media? I would say Twitter, that's
where conservatives get their news the most, but Facebook, it
goes Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and then x.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, Twitter's last, Twitter's last.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Overall, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three, w ib.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
C, Jilly Johnny.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
They don't take it even though you care.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know, it's Amy and Casey.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
The AI stuff is totally out of control eyed place
it is.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And I don't know if you've seen a lot of
the AI videos circulating.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Right now, but you've got a bunch with Bob Ross
where he's doing different paintings, and you have JFK and MLK.
There's one of JFK where he's a disc jockey at
a club. Sure, and Stephen Hawking doing all sorts of
tricks in his wheelchair. And now the daughter of Robin
(31:00):
Williams has come out and she on Instagram Monday said
please stop sending me ai videos of my dad.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh okay, so, of course, Robin Williams, what has this
been ten years ago? Now, I don't know exactly when
it was. It's been quite a while though most people
are where you he committed suicide, famous comedian actor, and
then you know, documentaries, et cetera have come out that
he had serious mental health issues, struggled with the variety
(31:29):
of things over many many years. And I'm sure even
you know, even though she's an adult now and I
believe she was even an adult when he had passed away.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That she's thirty six.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, right, so, cause there was a very good documentary
done about kind of the last days of Robin Williams
and the mental health struggles and and but I'm sure
even as an adult being able to sort of process
certainly better than you would as a child. Losing a
parent in that manner is just a level of grief
(32:02):
beyond description. And then your parent is super famous, so
you're constantly reminded of them, and now people are doing
things and sending you things that aren't even them.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, she said that you're not making art.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You're making disgusting overprocessed hot dogs out of the lives
of human beings, out of the history of their art
and music, then shoving them down someone else's throat hoping
you'll get a little thumbs up or alike.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Well, it's gross.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So you had in a good point, which is for
all this huffing and puffing about Well, AI is going
to change the future of medicine and all these and
very well made makes sten lives, and that's wonderful. But
ninety five percent of the stuff AI appears to currently
be being used for, at least in the visual of
the average American member of the American public, is garbage.
(32:51):
It in no way betters humanity, It in no way
makes human life better, more sustainable, nothing. It's just people
screwing screwing around, right, And it's not in any way
contributing to the betterment of humanity, no offence of Hammer Nigel.
Their ais are very funny, but it's not like it's
life altering stuff, right, they're.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Just having some fun. Well, she brings up a good point.
She said, with all of this AI mimicking real voices
and likeness, you're doing that without the person's consent, and
especially if the person is no longer with us, they
clearly can't consent to that.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And I saw something with like mister Rogers in a
wrestling ring the other day, and I was like, what
what does this have to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How is this in any way contributing? Is this what
our data centers are excused for? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Exactly? Is this why my utility bill is going up?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So somebody can put a deceased famous person in awkward
situation or in a place they would never have been.
I mean, like the moment JFK I saw, he said,
ask not what your country can do for you, but
ask what you can do to shake that thing. And he's,
you know, being a disc jockey at a club.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And we've talked about this for several years now that
it's getting better. Oh yeah, it's much better than it
was a couple of years ago. And I don't know
if you're this way now, but every video I see
I now have to wait because I just there's a
part of me in my head that I say, is
that AI? Has that been doctored? Has that been messed with?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh? Sure there's a lot now, especially when I go
through and do the template. I got to make sure,
like there's multiple sources using that same quote to make
sure it's legit, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Or I just thought about it. The other day was
when the video came out on Mark Sanchez of him
stumbling around downtown after the altercation, and I thought, well,
that's an incredible video. But then I said, well, I'm
not sharing this yet because.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You don't know is it fake?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is it AI?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
And you don't want to be the person here who's
putting it out there as legitimate news. Somebody comes back
and says, hey, dork, yeah that's fake.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm not going to give somebody a freebie to say, hey, moron,
that wasn't real.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Zelda Williams, that is Robin Williams's daughter, she said that
all of this AI content is just horrible TikTok slop,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Fascinating too about how many people find some sort of
worth in making that their existence.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you mean creating?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yes, just making these videos.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, they're getting paid to do it because they're getting
well you're right, views, yeah, likes and hits off of it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They're benefiting off of somebody else's sorrow. In many cases, what.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Did these sort of people do before there was the Internet?
I mean, I get that many of these people weren't
even alive, but what did these people do? For these
types of people? How did they earn livings before the
Internet or how did they earn livings before a Twitter, Instagram?
Right talk? Where did they go? What did these sorts
(36:08):
of people do to sustain themselves?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, they probably had a job that they did not like,
buried themselves in a basement behind a computer.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So anyway, well that's an uplifting story in the show today, Casey,
thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Well, you're the real deal, Rob Kendall, nothing ai about you.
Thank you, thank you, Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC
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