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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A great news. Casey, what's that, Rob, I'm just imagining
that everything is getting more expensive. Oh, it's all in
your head apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah. So Donald Trump he held a campaign style rally yesterday.
He was in Pennsylvania and the point of the rally
was to reassure Americans about the economy. He claimed that
his economic policies, including tariffs, are creating jobs, boosting the
stock market, and also attracting investment. He emphasized that his
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priority is making America affordable again.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But then he got on this what a cost of
living or affordability or whatever, And you know, this has
the makings of you know, when George H. W. Bush
was President of the United States, there was a famous
incident where he goes to supermarket and this is when
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the like the use scanners or whatever. It was like
a new thing, right, the scanners did check out and
he goes to the supermarket and he appears totally bewildered
at what this work. The equipment, Yeah, what this thing
is And a lot of people felt that was when
and obviously any had issues with the economy and the
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taxes and everything else, but that was the really moment
were started to fall apart. For him because people said,
this guy doesn't understand me, he doesn't understand my life,
Like that's a normal thing that regular people in Middle
America were very familiar with and a daily part of life.
And this guy, you know, who was kind of an
elitist anyway, right, I mean he had a storied you know,
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military and government background, was the head of the CIA.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I former director of the CIA, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Mean all these things, right, And so it fed into
the narrative and really hurt him. And this this kind
of seems like it could be that moment for Trump
because he appears totally out of step with where regular
people are.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
He was saying that the word affordability is now a
Democrat hoax, so we won't be saying affordability crisis anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Do we have the audio of this, We have part
of his speech.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He veered off topic a few times, in fact, even
while he was talking about the cost of living, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And I said it the other day and a lot
of people misinterpreted, They say, oh, he doesn't realize prices
are prices are coming down very substantially. But they have
a new word, you know, they always have a hoax,
The new word is affordability.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So they look at the.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Camera and they say, this election is all about affordability.
Now they never talk about it, they never talk to
thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They say I'm not allowed to run.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't know what the hell that's all about. But
that's okay. He said, four more years, you see the
new hat. We have four more years twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We've all sorts of okay. So the price of everything
is very high, sir, you ran on the price of
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everything being it's sort of like Epstein, right, or he
ran on the idea of I'm gonna expose everything Epstein,
I'm gonna turn it all over to you, the American public.
And then he gets in there in the public simply says, hey,
you can't paign on this. When do we get to
see the Epstein? It's ugs ted probably puts you up
to it. It's ogs No, you ran on this. And and
now it seems like he's doing the same thing with
the economy, where he's trying to say, oh, they're just
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making it up. No, sir, I'm sorry. I go to
the grocery store every week. I just went the other day.
I know what things cost. I know they're getting more expensive.
I know that it's taking more of my money to
buy the same amount of stuff, and he's insulting people
when he's acting like it's just some made up thing.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
CPI is up three percent year over year Consumer Price
Index and you've got a fifteen percent increase in beef.
Bananas are up seven percent, coffee of twenty percent. CBS
just came out. It's CBS. I know it's CBS, but
they came out with a report and they said, yeah,
across the board, with the exception of gasoline, which has
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come down, you're paying more for rent, you're paying more
for groceries, you're paying more for utilities, and you're paying
more for insurance.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This doesn't matter if it's CBS or the Man in
the Moon that they people are living it. It doesn't
like you don't have to the media doesn't have to
make it up. It's the whole reason Trump won the election.
Biden was trying the same thing. Oh, the economy's great,
or commons are the economies great? If I look at
this stat, look at that side, you're like, the stat
is my life, and my life is showing me that
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things aren't better or more affordable. And when you are,
it's one thing to say, hey, it's out there and
here's what we're doing to try to fix it. You
got to give us some time. That's one thing. Now
I think he's past they give us some time phase
of the presidency. But when you're insulting people saying this
isn't happening, people go, well, yes it is, sir, And
if you don't know what's happening, how can you fix it?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I think the big difference is it's happening to us.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, right, No, it's the same whole reason Biden got defeated.
So he's clearly totally out of touch with where the
regular people are on this. And if you're out of
touch with something, you aren't going to be able to
fix it, and that is not going to go well
for him.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Now, something interesting happened because just yesterday we were talking
about some polling numbers and there was a new Reuter's
IPSOS poll that came out, and his overall approval rating
has ticked up. It was between thirty seven and thirty
eight percent, and just today it came out and said
it's a forty one percent. However, the approval on cost
of living is still down at thirty one percent.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Look, the election, as it always is, is going to
be going to be decided almost always. There are some
rare ones in times of national security war where it's different,
but for the most part, elections get decided midterms and
presidential elections get decided on the quality of people's life.
Is it getting better? It's the famous Raking line, are
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you better off than you or four years ago? It's
why it's such a famous line, why it lives in
history and will live throughout the remainder of our country's history,
because it's it's true. And if people are not because again,
most people are not as into this as the people
hearing our voice right now. Most people just go about
their lives. They don't think about politics, sometimes until days
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or a day or whatever before it's time to vote.
They think about They don't see that their headlines. They
don't get into it. They don't the ideas of extremism
on one side or another. They don't process it. They
just simply go is it better for me? Is it
more affordable for me? Is my family getting ahead? And
if the answers yes, they vote for the people in power.
If the answers. No, they vote for the people out
of power if the people out of power give them
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some sort of viable option to that they think will
make things better or even seems plausible.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So you've got Republican Senator John Kennedy, he's from Louisiana,
and he said that the Congressional Republicans they need to
stop sleepwalking and start pushing their agenda forward.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think that when the American people speak, you better
listen to them. And I think that we need the
President and the United States Senate need to be working
on things that moms and dads worry about when they
lie down to sleep at night and can't And one
of the things is the cost of living. And what
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I'm telling you is there are things we can do
that the President can't do. But in order to do it,
the United States Senate has to get up off it's
ice cold and mazy. But and you can't use the
excuse all the Democrats won't go along with of course
they won't, but we don't need their votes. We can
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do it through reconciliation with a simple Republican majority.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, okay, So why is it when he says that
everybody goes, Okay, when I say it, people are like,
he's an ass. I mean, he just said the thing
I've been saying, right that you can't blame when these
are like, We've got to get rid of Carson. Okay,
Carson's a turd in zero. But Carson has nothing to
do with what's going on in the country right now.
Andre Carson has not been in the majority in the
United States House of Representatives for three years. The vast
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majority of his time in the US House, he has
been in the minority. He just said it. Republican Senator
John Kennedy just said the same thing that I say
every single day. It's on the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it was very similar to what Ron DeSantis said
the other day. The cost of living. That is what
is crushing families, the bills, and it's something that real
Americans face every single day, not the billionaire class.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Somebody, somebody made a point about this about Kennedy, though
he is he says a lot of things, Well, he's
Lindsey Graham, except he has a cool Southern accent and
he's all folksley about it. Like his voting record is
almost straight in line with Lindsay Graham. So senator sir,
if you want to talk about mirror, yeah, look in
the mirrorf you want to talk about who you're causing problems?
All right, speaking of problems, Senate's got a big problem
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on their hand here, and they got to vote on
redistricting tomorrow. And Abdul will join us next to talk
about the latest. Here he is hearing on the ground
the rumor, gossip and juicy and you window.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
When we come back, it's Kennelly Casey on ninety three
w YBC.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Thank you for being a friend, traveled down the road
and back again. Your is juice.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Tomorrow we are a big day. Nobody seems to know
what's going to happen. Let's talk to a guy. What's
your slogan? The rumor?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Gossip, rumor in window plaint a fifty Oh yeah, no day,
we're talking about the map. It's you never know the
maps too well.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, there may be a few few coins in the
fountain for you for some legal manoeuvering. Abdulla keeps your
bas these days. Hello, Hello, how are you doing fine?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
My friend? How's it going?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
All right? So tomorrow is the vote. Later today we'll
have the amendment process for redistricting. But then ultimately tomorrow
is the vote. What are you hearing because it seems
like we're about twenty one or twenty two knows, twenty yeses,
and then everybody else is hiding in secret. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Well, my theory is we talked about this on State
House Happenings this week that if you're going to vote yes,
you probably just go out and say it. Why wouldn't you, Yeah,
just say yes and get out the way. Then don't
worry about turning Point USA or swatting or another the crap.
Just say yes and be done with it and be
left alone. If you're undecided or a no vote, the
no votes are pretty clear. The last I heard, there
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were about twenty in the Republican causse. Remember they're forty
Republicans that's right in the caucus. Get ten Democrats who
are all know. Right, you have twenty Republicans yes yes
or leaning yes, twenty Republicans know or leaning no. So
by that math, the bill fails twenty to thirty because
twenty twenty split, and then you have ten Democrats. That's
that was the math as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
The math is not in the favor of the yes
because all you've got, Look, you can lose the if
you're right, If the Nose or Lio are indeed twenty Republicans,
you can still lose four of them and win the
thing because twenty five is a tie. Lieutenant governor casts
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a tie breaking vote. Again, I think it would be
hilarious for this whole dumpster fire of an event to
end on Micah beckw with who is technically the head
of agriculture in our state, screwing rural and Indiana and
farmers and casting the tie breaking vote as yes to
pass these maps. But that being said, if you're the
if you're if you're the if you're the yes people,
you've got to get five of these people who are
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leaning not to come over to your side. Like it's
just a really really narrow passageway. If that if you're
what you're saying is correct.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's uh. I'm not a big sports betting fan, so
rob crack me if I'm using terminology wrong. You basically
got to run the table you do.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's like the Ryder Cup this year, where the Americans
were so far down going into Sunday even though they
smoke the Europeans on Sunday. If you got win almost
all the matches, even if you only lost two or three,
that's still too many that you lost exactly. You may
have won Sunday, you didn't win the event exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
And that is where I would argue the yes votes
for redistrict are you literally got to run the table
on like eighty ninety percent of all the un all
the undecided, and by the way, and some of the
people who are And here's the other thing to keep
in mind, that number could actually be bigger, bigger no
votes than yes votes, because if they hit twenty six
no on the board, yeah, then you got oh well
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didn't pass no no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So we got to do this with Merritt. Earlier, some
people were saying, well, these three undecideds voted yes in
the committee, is this a great sign for the yes
Oh god no, So you're saying, foolish mortals. There is
a theory that these people and they sort of alluded
to this, that they voted to move it forward so
everyone could vote. But they're not necessarily going to vote yes.
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You think these people will vote no?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, because I don't see why they would change their
opinion simply because of a committe vote at the end
of the day. It is not uncommon for a law
mix day. I'm going to vote yes just to just
we continue to have this discussion and moving forward. But
let's you something really really convincing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm going to be a no vote if you were,
if you were one of them there, now, look, I
would have voted no because your vote is your vote,
and bring the smoke on. That's what I do for
a living. But a lot of these lawmakers they don't
do well with smoke. So if you were one of
these no's, of those three that ultimately cast the majority
to move it out of committee, you got more cover there, right,
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because people can't say, well they did it. No, we
all did it. So if you're going to come at us,
you got to come at all of it. So it
does give you some more cover. And then you vote
make it to the full floor, and.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You could argue, hey, I voted for it out of
a committee.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It just didn't I gave you a chance to wow
me one last time. Yeah, and I was under wowed exactly,
all right. So if let's play it, let's roll, let's
roll play for a second. Very scary, right, You're a
comic con guy. Though, Let's roll play two scenarios. One.
If this fails, Braun has done so right. I mean,
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he promised the property tax relief. It didn't happen. He promised,
including apparently the reports to Trump just this past weekend
at some White House event that it was going to pass.
If he's over two on his two big swings and
now he's pissed off all these legislators, he's in big trouble.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Right, Braun has successfully done something I've never seen any
governor do. Would just make everybody mad at him. The
White House is mad at him, the Republican Caucus will
be mad at him, and the voters will be mad
at him. And I kind of said this chung in
cheek a couple of weeks ago, if bron was only
planning on serving one term, he may get his wish.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, And I know you're going to be load to
hear this, But I think Todd Roketa is beginning his
governor's campaign in earnest, especially if this. If this thing fails, Yes.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh, rakeids already getting started, already making phone calls and
hitting and hitting Braun and blah blah blah blah see.
But here's what he's cheering for it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I don't care what he said publicly, he wants us
to fail. Bron's done so yeah, and here's a weird thing.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Here's what this is done for public Mike Todd, Rakeita
wants us to fail so he can beat up on
Braun and Bobie actually wants us to pass.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, well, bo Bye is the big winner if it passes,
because all these people will get mobilized if it fails. Well,
you know, who knows what's going to happen. Okay, the
other universe is it passes if you're Rod Bray and
you declared this doa and we're not voting and we're
not coming. And I know you love Rod Bray, but
you got to try to be you know, objective here.
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That's a bad look for you to have declared this
dead dead dead dead dead, we're not meaning, we're not
even and then finally you vote on it and it passes.
That's a bad look for him, and.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's a bad look for him in the short run.
In the long run, I think I think he'll be
fine because Rod Bray is up until twenty twenty eight
and some change.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm just saying from a leadership perspective like, hey, you're
the you're perceived as the big boss. See.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
But here's the thing though, what Brace said and Braid
made this perfectly clear on Monday, which is he's he said,
he's an O vote, has been a no vote, but
he will he will let everyone vote their conscience and
let the chips fall where they may. Because remember, but
all with all the sweating going on, all the crap
and all the issues, all the whitest press like, K, fine,
you guys want to vote, I'll guarantee your vote. I'm
not gonna guarantee the outcome, but I'll guarantee you vote.
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That's all I'm gonna do. Now leave me the hell alone.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Rod uh.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Rod Bray Like, how much sway does he have? How much?
I mean, because it sort of seems like they're all
over the map on this one. Normally the top guys
vote in a block. But you guys like might got
guys like Mike Krider who are no. But then you
got guys like uh Gardon who are yes. So it's
a sort of this rare thing where they sort of
seem all over the map. How much sway does Bray have?
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What the undecided. Does he have the ability to go
to these guys and go, look, I know I told
you vote your conscience, but here's where I'm at and
here's why you should be there too. Does he have
the ability to do that?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He has, he has the ability to do that. I
think what I think I think. I think what Bray
will do with the underside of voter is like, look,
if you know where I stand on this issue, where
other people stand, if you vote with me, I got
your back. We will protect you. We'll make sure that
you'll protect it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
If now, if you don't, you don't vote with this,
that's fine, you know, you vote your conscious. But if
if you vote with me, here's what here's what will happen. Yeah,
here's what we have to offer you at this company.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
We're not gonna beat up on you with a stick.
We're not gonna hit you with a stick. Like if
you do this, you know you're gonna, you know, be
political suicide.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, we vote with us. Here.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Here here's a bunch of riches that that at your disposal.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, very good, find them at Indie politics dot orgo.
Bill A. Keem Shabaz, thank you, thank you. It's Kettle
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
And no, the end is new, so I face.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The final cursis okay, So I don't, uh, my friend,
I don't think I have a problem with this.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'll say it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Clue, if you're gonna try to enter the country from
certain countries, now, we are potentially going to require you
to show years of social media usage.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so this is coming from US Customs and Border Protection.
They now may require travelers from visa waiver countries like Britain, France, Germany,
South Korea to share up to five years of social
media history before visiting the United States. Now, the visa
waiver program allows you to stay up to ninety days
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in the country without a visa.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, I don't think I have a problem with this,
because you don't have a right to be in this country.
It's a privilege. It's something that you earn, and as
part of that, we have a right to ask for
whatever we want in order for you to be here.
I would feel the same way about other countries. Obviously,
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I don't travel to other countries, no problem for me.
But I don't have any issue with this whatsoever. We
have a right to know who's in our country. You
don't have a right to be here, and if you
don't want to come to don't come.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Similar social media checks they already exist for H one
B visas, also student and scholar visas, and and they're
also requesting other personal data like your email address from
the past ten years, name, birthdays and birthplaces of your parents,
spouse's siblings, children, and also some other details like you
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know your address, your phone number, emergency contact. So with
all of that, they now want social media as.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I have zero issue with this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
A lot of people put their political beliefs out on
social media, So that's just the customs and Border protection
wanting to know who's coming in here and where do
they stand on things.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Well, it comes back to the idea of and this
is we've certainly been lost under Biden. It's our country,
We the people, the taxpayer sovereign right, we the taxpayers
of America. We own our country, right it belongs to us.
If you want to come here, we have the right
to put whatever safeguards around that that we want. And
quite honestly, we do need less people coming into this country,
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and I think that is wonderful that if you want
to come here, we're going to ask you for a
B and C. You don't want to do it, don't
come here. That's fine, no obligation to come here and
where I'm no obligation to let you in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So there are a lot of conversations regarding social media happening,
especially today children across Australia. They woke up today with
no access to their social media accounts, those sixteen in
under and it is the first ban in the world
of an entire age group that is no longer able
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to access their social media and Ram Emmanuel, former Chicago
mayor and former chief of staff for Obama. He is
now advocating that children in the United States are not
allowed to access social media under the age of sixteen.
He says, we either have to choose adults or algorithms.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, look, there's no there is very I can't think
of a compelling reason that a child would need to
be on Facebook. I can't think of a compelling reason
a child would need to be on Twitter. Does anybody
you know anybody who spends any amount of time on
any of those places. I'm guilty of this too, So
I'm indicting myself with this, who walks away from it?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Going that was a positive experience?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Great, glad I did that? Right Now, I do it
for my job and you know, et cetera. Right, we
create content on social media and then we use it
for the show. But I think it would be much
better world if I didn't have to do that. I
could get away from it. But I sort of load
to However, I will say this, well, I agree with him.
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People under the age of sixteen have no business being
on social media. Ultimately, isn't that a job of a parent?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right? Do we need the government stepping in and creating
legislation no telling us how to parent?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
No, no, no, of course not. And again it comes
back to we have a real problem in this country
deciding what the age of an adult is. It's sixteen
for this, and it's eighteen for this, and it's twenty
one for this. That doesn't compute. Whatever your adult age
is is when you should be able to do all
of the adult things. And we need to I've been
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saying this for years. We need to rectify that age
of consent. Smoke, drink, vote, drive a car, whatever we
decide as a collective, all of those things are. I'm
largely okay with I think we've probably come down on
the number being eighteen. But I got a real problem
with people that they can't choose to smoke a cigarette
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now in this country, thanks to the Duke of Spendingberg
Todd Young. But they can go to a foreign country
and be sentenced to a horrible, horrible death. And you
can be sentenced to a horrible, horrible death at the
age of eighteen, but you can't You can't drink a beer, right, Yeah,
but then we say at sixteen, you can't drink a
beer till you're twenty one, But at sixteen you can
operate a multi ton heavy piece of machinery that can
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harm not only yourself but everybody around you. See how
that just does. None of that ever is computed for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah. So earlier this year, back in January, you had
senators like Chris Murphy and Katie Britt and Ted Cruise.
They introduced a bill that would ban social media accounts
for children under thirty. So again there's another there's another
age that's being thrown out.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What is the compelling reason that you would say my
kid needs to be on Facebook? Like, what can you
think of one. No, No, I'm not trying to be facetious.
I'm asking this. Is there something I'm missing?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, I don't think there's anything you missing this. This
would apply to Instagram, Facebook, thread, snapchat, YouTube, TikTok, kick, reddit,
twitch x, all of them. Yeah, exactly, there's a huge list.
Snitch the one thing that I could see happening.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't. I have no idea what you just said.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's almost like when you have a child born, do
you have to go and grab all their social media
accounts and keep it with an email so that when
they are older they've got it to match their name.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
No, you just never let them on. It's become an adult.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
All right, when we come back, we will say goodbye
to this building. It has meant a lot to a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's Kennilly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
West, let me hear here, Divoss Cone's tonight better here
so long and going long.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Your again, Well, let's say not the end of our
show now, at least as far as we know Russia,
Well you never know. I mean, look, there's a lot
of anything. First of all, my last day of the
year is Friday.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is true, Radiothon, That's right, yeah, but I love
how you do that. Every year, bank all your vacation
days to the end of December. After Radiothon, you're like, Okay,
I'm out, bye, see you next year.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And every year they're like, you will not be allowed
to do that. And then they're like, well, this guy
has so little going for him, let's just give it
to him.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh, it's sympathy they have.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I had a good excuse this year though, because Libby's
daycare is closed, and I was like, look, I'm not
gonna be here one way or another. You either give
me the off days or I'll just be insubordinate. Right,
got to do what I gotta do. But this is
the last our schedule to be We were told our
final program here at forty Monument Circle right tomorrow. They
are saying, now, assuming all the buttons work right, they're saying,
(25:24):
we're going to debut at our new studios. Do we
know the address. I'm not giving that out.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm sure they'll email it to us eventually. So how
long have you worked in this building.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I've been here since December of twenty sixteen. I was
brought in as a fill in guy. It took me
about six months to get in as a fill in guy,
and then I started out. Abdul used to have a
nighttime show. I started out filling in for him. I
(25:55):
did well enough with that that once the new year
came around that Hammer and Nigel knew they were getting
that afternoon show, but they had a night show for
a while. So of course Nigel was missing as much
work then as he is now. Sure, so I spent
about things never changed. I spent a lot of time
as the filling guy for them. Did well enough with
that that then they started letting me do fill ins
(26:18):
for the morning show, at which point then they hired
me because I was doing They really, look, I was
a horrible producer. This will shock you. I didn't care,
and I wasn't really.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You're a horrible producer now of our show.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But they were like, this guy's so good as the
fill and we have to find something for him because
we're paying him so much money to be the filling guy,
we might as well just get some sort of full
time something. So they hired me to work with the
women and then become essentially the full time filling guy
for everybody. And then I was with the women what
for three and a half years, and then it was
me and Mock for a year, and now it's been
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you and me for going what twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four. This will be our fourth We're coming up
on our fourth year. So that is my long and
winding road here at WIBC.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're at forty Monuments Circle. What was the building like
when you first arrived and what sort of changes or
renovations have you noticed throughout these years?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well? Anything, Well, it's been fascinating that how much the
populace has changed the industry has changed a lot, and
how WIBC because of our audience, Like all of this
is because of our audience. Everything I have everything that
you have. We have talent, we have the ability to
put shows together. But if our audience wasn't as great
(27:31):
as it is, none of this would have lasted, certainly
nine years. Casey, you have been in management and radio
for much of your life. How many people make it
anywhere in radio nine years?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh, that's pretty rare. Yeah, right, So it's normally a
couple of years and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Especially someone who causes as many promises as me.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's true when the phone calls come in and it's
the complaints against you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But it is really a tribute to our audience, because
our audience, while the radio industry has really struggled and
we have obviously under new ownership, from where we were
when I started, WIBC remains an anomaly in this business
that we just keep moving forward like a freight train,
and almost every ratings book one two or three, you're
(28:12):
gonna find WIBC right there in that one, two or
three slot. And we were two of the most recent
book Nobody's Beaten b one oh five seven during Christmas season,
And so that is really a tribute to our audience
that that has been the common thread throughout the nine years.
I mean, you think about what we went through. Trump
had just been elected the first time when I started here.
(28:33):
We've had all the Trump first presidency, the COVID, the riots,
the Biden years, the re emergence of Trump. We've had
Hulcombe be elected, all this other one on with him.
It's the engagement of the WIBC audience and how wonderful
and amazing they are has been the point of commonality
throughout this whole My whole time here.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, do you have a favorite memory here or anything
naughty that you did here in this building that you
can finally fess up to.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh, I did a lot of auditentions just building. Same
more words, so the family oriented program. Okay, those were
different times. But look, I just think I think that
the building and this this sounds look I other than
when I worked at the State House. I never worked anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, I mean I worked at we were always remote
where you work for yourself, Yeah, I never.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I had never. I mean I worked very at very
young age. I worked at a radio station. But from
basically twenty one on it was or twenty two on,
it was all me on my radio station, my streaming company,
and then the brief time I went into the state
state government. But like I'd never gone to work every
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single day, I'd never been around co workers, Like this
was all foreign to me. When I know that sounds
ridiculous to say, but this was all all foreign to me.
And so the building is the point of commonality, right,
Like as a kid, you grew up coming here and
you would see, Now it wasn't WIBC on the circle
when I was a kid, but this building, these companies,
(30:10):
these frequencies were on the circle, and you would grow
up seeing the marquis, the WIBC headline, what do they
call it, the scrolling the news scroller out on the circle,
and you say that's where I want to be. I
want to be in that building growing up that that's
the place I want to be. And then you realize
(30:30):
I made it right, and the building almost becomes like
a person. Right, the building becomes like family because all
of these events nine years long time. It doesn't seem
like it, but nine years this building through all of
the stuff, your life changes, your growth, the birth of
my daughter, all of these things. Right, the building is
(30:52):
the place you always came to and came back to,
and it's sort of like you're moving on from that. Well,
I mean you've been here four years.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I have. And out of my thirty plus year
career in media, in this radio industry, I have gone
through ownership changes in the past, I have done format changes,
and I have relocated and out of all of those things,
relocating is one of the toughest things to do in
(31:21):
radio because it's such a technical field. However, it's not
as tough as television because you could, honestly mcgiver or
radio station with some duct take duct tape and a
rubber band and keep it on the air. But it
should be a pretty seamless process. They should honestly flip
one switch, maybe have a second of dead air, flip
(31:42):
another switch, and we'll be back on. To the average listener,
they won't notice the difference unless they're watching on the
YouTube feed. I think our new studios are going to
be glorious. We're going to have brand new equipment. We're
not going to have the frustrations of things breaking down
or breaking down the bathroom making weird noises out of nowhere.
(32:06):
So I'm really excited about the new opportunity for WIBC
and what this can become, not only for us and
what we'll have to not deal with on a daily basis,
but for our viewers on the YouTube channel, because I
think they're going to see how the new studios are
going to be great.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, and when you close a chapter, I've always said
this about WIBC. I have lived my dream, especially the
past five years with my own show. Yes, it's been
it's been a great dream. It's if they came tomorrow
because I always get the people. I can't wait to
fire you the bell will told for you. You've been
(32:49):
at that for nine years. You people have been very
passionate for nine years. And it will happen eventually, not
because you cheer for It happens to everybody. And I've
always said if it happened tomorrow, I would be sad
that I didn't get to engage with our audience. But
how many people can say legitimately they lived out their
childhood dream. And for me it was to be on
WIBC and in this building that I grew up walking
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past and going, wow, that's awesome. You'd come down here
during Christmas time, everything's lit up and go that's the
place to be. And so one of the things we
got about a mental left here. When you close a chapter,
I think you take a reflection of everything that happened
during that chapter. And I just want to thank all
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of the people, whether it was Matt Hiblin who first
brought me in, Hammer who was a huge advocate to
get me in here, David Wood who gave me the
opportunity to be a full time producer, and then obviously
took the huge flyer against I'm sure all of his
better judgment to give me the show Jeff Smollien for
all the money, yeah you know, and this building, and
(33:56):
then obviously now Urban One and their opportunity. But most importantly,
I want to think our audience, because all of these memories,
all of these special things I've been able to live out,
and the nine years we've had in this building, it
is because of you, and that you continue to engage,
(34:16):
you continue to support, you continue to listen, and whether
you listen, and I'm really the only person who can
say this on this station, but whether you listen because
you love us, or you listen because you hate us,
and there's a lot of you, I get it. We
love you too because you all contribute the same way.
So from the very very bottom of my heart, thank
you for thank you for letting us live out this
(34:36):
dream every day. Thank you for the memories we've been
able to make in this building, and we'll try to
give it to you just as good in the new building.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I'm going to go spend some extra time on the
balcony looking at the view of the circle, and thank
you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
We'll catch you back here tomorrow from our new location.
This has been Kendall and Casey On ninety three WIBC
A great news. Casey, what's that, Rob, I'm just imagining
that everything is getting more expensive. Oh, it's all in
your head apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah. So Donald Trump he held a campaign style rally yesterday.
He was in Pennsylvania and the point of the rally
was to reassure Americans about the economy. He claimed that
his economic policies, including tariffs, are creating jobs, boosting the
stock market, and also attracting investment. He emphasized that his
(00:29):
priority is making America affordable again.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But then he got on this what a cost of
living or affordability or whatever, And you know, this has
the makings of you know, when George H. W. Bush
was President of the United States, there was a famous
incident where he goes to supermarket and this is when
(00:53):
the like the use scanners or whatever. It was like
a new thing, right, the scanners did check out and
he goes to the supermarket and he appears totally bewildered
at what this work. The equipment, Yeah, what this thing
is And a lot of people felt that was when
and obviously any had issues with the economy and the
(01:14):
taxes and everything else, but that was the really moment
were started to fall apart. For him because people said,
this guy doesn't understand me, he doesn't understand my life,
Like that's a normal thing that regular people in Middle
America were very familiar with and a daily part of life.
And this guy, you know, who was kind of an
elitist anyway, right, I mean he had a storied you know,
(01:37):
military and government background, was the head of the CIA.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I former director of the CIA, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Mean all these things, right, And so it fed into
the narrative and really hurt him. And this this kind
of seems like it could be that moment for Trump
because he appears totally out of step with where regular
people are.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
He was saying that the word affordability is now a
Democrat hoax, so we won't be saying affordability crisis anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Do we have the audio of this, We have part
of his speech.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He veered off topic a few times, in fact, even
while he was talking about the cost of living, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And I said it the other day and a lot
of people misinterpreted, They say, oh, he doesn't realize prices
are prices are coming down very substantially. But they have
a new word, you know, they always have a hoax,
The new word is affordability.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So they look at the.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Camera and they say, this election is all about affordability.
Now they never talk about it, they never talk to
thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They say I'm not allowed to run.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't know what the hell that's all about. But
that's okay. He said, four more years, you see the
new hat. We have four more years twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We've all sorts of okay. So the price of everything
is very high, sir, you ran on the price of
(03:06):
everything being it's sort of like Epstein, right, or he
ran on the idea of I'm gonna expose everything Epstein,
I'm gonna turn it all over to you, the American public.
And then he gets in there in the public simply says, hey,
you can't paign on this. When do we get to
see the Epstein? It's ugs ted probably puts you up
to it. It's ogs No, you ran on this. And and
now it seems like he's doing the same thing with
the economy, where he's trying to say, oh, they're just
(03:29):
making it up. No, sir, I'm sorry. I go to
the grocery store every week. I just went the other day.
I know what things cost. I know they're getting more expensive.
I know that it's taking more of my money to
buy the same amount of stuff, and he's insulting people
when he's acting like it's just some made up thing.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
CPI is up three percent year over year Consumer Price
Index and you've got a fifteen percent increase in beef.
Bananas are up seven percent, coffee of twenty percent. CBS
just came out. It's CBS. I know it's CBS, but
they came out with a report and they said, yeah,
across the board, with the exception of gasoline, which has
(04:07):
come down, you're paying more for rent, you're paying more
for groceries, you're paying more for utilities, and you're paying
more for insurance.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This doesn't matter if it's CBS or the Man in
the Moon that they people are living it. It doesn't
like you don't have to the media doesn't have to
make it up. It's the whole reason Trump won the election.
Biden was trying the same thing. Oh, the economy's great,
or commons are the economies great? If I look at
this stat, look at that side, you're like, the stat
is my life, and my life is showing me that
(04:35):
things aren't better or more affordable. And when you are,
it's one thing to say, hey, it's out there and
here's what we're doing to try to fix it. You
got to give us some time. That's one thing. Now
I think he's past they give us some time phase
of the presidency. But when you're insulting people saying this
isn't happening, people go, well, yes it is, sir, And
if you don't know what's happening, how can you fix it?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I think the big difference is it's happening to us.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, right, No, it's the same whole reason Biden got defeated.
So he's clearly totally out of touch with where the
regular people are on this. And if you're out of
touch with something, you aren't going to be able to
fix it, and that is not going to go well
for him.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Now, something interesting happened because just yesterday we were talking
about some polling numbers and there was a new Reuter's
IPSOS poll that came out, and his overall approval rating
has ticked up. It was between thirty seven and thirty
eight percent, and just today it came out and said
it's a forty one percent. However, the approval on cost
of living is still down at thirty one percent.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Look, the election, as it always is, is going to
be going to be decided almost always. There are some
rare ones in times of national security war where it's different,
but for the most part, elections get decided midterms and
presidential elections get decided on the quality of people's life.
Is it getting better? It's the famous Raking line, are
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you better off than you or four years ago? It's
why it's such a famous line, why it lives in
history and will live throughout the remainder of our country's history,
because it's it's true. And if people are not because again,
most people are not as into this as the people
hearing our voice right now. Most people just go about
their lives. They don't think about politics, sometimes until days
(06:21):
or a day or whatever before it's time to vote.
They think about They don't see that their headlines. They
don't get into it. They don't the ideas of extremism
on one side or another. They don't process it. They
just simply go is it better for me? Is it
more affordable for me? Is my family getting ahead? And
if the answers yes, they vote for the people in power.
If the answers. No, they vote for the people out
of power if the people out of power give them
(06:43):
some sort of viable option to that they think will
make things better or even seems plausible.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So you've got Republican Senator John Kennedy, he's from Louisiana,
and he said that the Congressional Republicans they need to
stop sleepwalking and start pushing their agenda forward.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think that when the American people speak, you better
listen to them. And I think that we need the
President and the United States Senate need to be working
on things that moms and dads worry about when they
lie down to sleep at night and can't And one
of the things is the cost of living. And what
(07:26):
I'm telling you is there are things we can do
that the President can't do. But in order to do it,
the United States Senate has to get up off it's
ice cold and mazy. But and you can't use the
excuse all the Democrats won't go along with of course
they won't, but we don't need their votes. We can
(07:46):
do it through reconciliation with a simple Republican majority.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, okay, So why is it when he says that
everybody goes, Okay, when I say it, people are like,
he's an ass. I mean, he just said the thing
I've been saying, right that you can't blame when these
are like, We've got to get rid of Carson. Okay,
Carson's a turd in zero. But Carson has nothing to
do with what's going on in the country right now.
Andre Carson has not been in the majority in the
United States House of Representatives for three years. The vast
(08:13):
majority of his time in the US House, he has
been in the minority. He just said it. Republican Senator
John Kennedy just said the same thing that I say
every single day. It's on the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it was very similar to what Ron DeSantis said
the other day. The cost of living. That is what
is crushing families, the bills, and it's something that real
Americans face every single day, not the billionaire class.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Somebody, somebody made a point about this about Kennedy, though
he is he says a lot of things, Well, he's
Lindsey Graham, except he has a cool Southern accent and
he's all folksley about it. Like his voting record is
almost straight in line with Lindsay Graham. So senator sir,
if you want to talk about mirror, yeah, look in
the mirrorf you want to talk about who you're causing problems?
All right, speaking of problems, Senate's got a big problem
(08:59):
on their hand here, and they got to vote on
redistricting tomorrow. And Abdul will join us next to talk
about the latest. Here he is hearing on the ground
the rumor, gossip and juicy and you window.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
When we come back, it's Kennelly Casey on ninety three
w YBC.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Thank you for being a friend, traveled down the road
and back again. Your is juice.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Tomorrow we are a big day. Nobody seems to know
what's going to happen. Let's talk to a guy. What's
your slogan? The rumor?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Gossip, rumor in window plaint a fifty Oh yeah, no day,
we're talking about the map. It's you never know the
maps too well.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, there may be a few few coins in the
fountain for you for some legal manoeuvering. Abdulla keeps your
bas these days. Hello, Hello, how are you doing fine?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
My friend? How's it going?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
All right? So tomorrow is the vote. Later today we'll
have the amendment process for redistricting. But then ultimately tomorrow
is the vote. What are you hearing because it seems
like we're about twenty one or twenty two knows, twenty yeses,
and then everybody else is hiding in secret. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Well, my theory is we talked about this on State
House Happenings this week that if you're going to vote yes,
you probably just go out and say it. Why wouldn't you, Yeah,
just say yes and get out the way. Then don't
worry about turning Point USA or swatting or another the crap.
Just say yes and be done with it and be
left alone. If you're undecided or a no vote, the
no votes are pretty clear. The last I heard, there
(10:34):
were about twenty in the Republican causse. Remember they're forty
Republicans that's right in the caucus. Get ten Democrats who
are all know. Right, you have twenty Republicans yes yes
or leaning yes, twenty Republicans know or leaning no. So
by that math, the bill fails twenty to thirty because
twenty twenty split, and then you have ten Democrats. That's
that was the math as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
The math is not in the favor of the yes
because all you've got, Look, you can lose the if
you're right, If the Nose or Lio are indeed twenty Republicans,
you can still lose four of them and win the
thing because twenty five is a tie. Lieutenant governor casts
(11:17):
a tie breaking vote. Again, I think it would be
hilarious for this whole dumpster fire of an event to
end on Micah beckw with who is technically the head
of agriculture in our state, screwing rural and Indiana and
farmers and casting the tie breaking vote as yes to
pass these maps. But that being said, if you're the
if you're if you're the if you're the yes people,
you've got to get five of these people who are
(11:40):
leaning not to come over to your side. Like it's
just a really really narrow passageway. If that if you're
what you're saying is correct.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's uh. I'm not a big sports betting fan, so
rob crack me if I'm using terminology wrong. You basically
got to run the table you do.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's like the Ryder Cup this year, where the Americans
were so far down going into Sunday even though they
smoke the Europeans on Sunday. If you got win almost
all the matches, even if you only lost two or three,
that's still too many that you lost exactly. You may
have won Sunday, you didn't win the event exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
And that is where I would argue the yes votes
for redistrict are you literally got to run the table
on like eighty ninety percent of all the un all
the undecided, and by the way, and some of the
people who are And here's the other thing to keep
in mind, that number could actually be bigger, bigger no
votes than yes votes, because if they hit twenty six
no on the board, yeah, then you got oh well
(12:29):
didn't pass no no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So we got to do this with Merritt. Earlier, some
people were saying, well, these three undecideds voted yes in
the committee, is this a great sign for the yes
Oh god no, So you're saying, foolish mortals. There is
a theory that these people and they sort of alluded
to this, that they voted to move it forward so
everyone could vote. But they're not necessarily going to vote yes.
(12:54):
You think these people will vote no?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, because I don't see why they would change their
opinion simply because of a committe vote at the end
of the day. It is not uncommon for a law
mix day. I'm going to vote yes just to just
we continue to have this discussion and moving forward. But
let's you something really really convincing.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm going to be a no vote if you were,
if you were one of them there, now, look, I
would have voted no because your vote is your vote,
and bring the smoke on. That's what I do for
a living. But a lot of these lawmakers they don't
do well with smoke. So if you were one of
these no's, of those three that ultimately cast the majority
to move it out of committee, you got more cover there, right,
(13:30):
because people can't say, well they did it. No, we
all did it. So if you're going to come at us,
you got to come at all of it. So it
does give you some more cover. And then you vote
make it to the full floor, and.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You could argue, hey, I voted for it out of
a committee.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It just didn't I gave you a chance to wow
me one last time. Yeah, and I was under wowed exactly,
all right. So if let's play it, let's roll, let's
roll play for a second. Very scary, right, You're a
comic con guy. Though, Let's roll play two scenarios. One.
If this fails, Braun has done so right. I mean,
(14:03):
he promised the property tax relief. It didn't happen. He promised,
including apparently the reports to Trump just this past weekend
at some White House event that it was going to pass.
If he's over two on his two big swings and
now he's pissed off all these legislators, he's in big trouble.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Right, Braun has successfully done something I've never seen any
governor do. Would just make everybody mad at him. The
White House is mad at him, the Republican Caucus will
be mad at him, and the voters will be mad
at him. And I kind of said this chung in
cheek a couple of weeks ago, if bron was only
planning on serving one term, he may get his wish.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, And I know you're going to be load to
hear this, But I think Todd Roketa is beginning his
governor's campaign in earnest, especially if this. If this thing fails, Yes.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh, rakeids already getting started, already making phone calls and
hitting and hitting Braun and blah blah blah blah see.
But here's what he's cheering for it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I don't care what he said publicly, he wants us
to fail. Bron's done so yeah, and here's a weird thing.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Here's what this is done for public Mike Todd, Rakeita
wants us to fail so he can beat up on
Braun and Bobie actually wants us to pass.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, well, bo Bye is the big winner if it passes,
because all these people will get mobilized if it fails. Well,
you know, who knows what's going to happen. Okay, the
other universe is it passes if you're Rod Bray and
you declared this doa and we're not voting and we're
not coming. And I know you love Rod Bray, but
you got to try to be you know, objective here.
(15:33):
That's a bad look for you to have declared this
dead dead dead dead dead, we're not meaning, we're not
even and then finally you vote on it and it passes.
That's a bad look for him, and.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's a bad look for him in the short run.
In the long run, I think I think he'll be
fine because Rod Bray is up until twenty twenty eight
and some change.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm just saying from a leadership perspective like, hey, you're
the you're perceived as the big boss. See.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
But here's the thing though, what Brace said and Braid
made this perfectly clear on Monday, which is he's he said,
he's an O vote, has been a no vote, but
he will he will let everyone vote their conscience and
let the chips fall where they may. Because remember, but
all with all the sweating going on, all the crap
and all the issues, all the whitest press like, K, fine,
you guys want to vote, I'll guarantee your vote. I'm
not gonna guarantee the outcome, but I'll guarantee you vote.
(16:15):
That's all I'm gonna do. Now leave me the hell alone.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Rod uh.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Rod Bray Like, how much sway does he have? How much?
I mean, because it sort of seems like they're all
over the map on this one. Normally the top guys
vote in a block. But you guys like might got
guys like Mike Krider who are no. But then you
got guys like uh Gardon who are yes. So it's
a sort of this rare thing where they sort of
seem all over the map. How much sway does Bray have?
(16:41):
What the undecided. Does he have the ability to go
to these guys and go, look, I know I told
you vote your conscience, but here's where I'm at and
here's why you should be there too. Does he have
the ability to do that?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He has, he has the ability to do that. I
think what I think I think. I think what Bray
will do with the underside of voter is like, look,
if you know where I stand on this issue, where
other people stand, if you vote with me, I got
your back. We will protect you. We'll make sure that
you'll protect it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
If now, if you don't, you don't vote with this,
that's fine, you know, you vote your conscious. But if
if you vote with me, here's what here's what will happen. Yeah,
here's what we have to offer you at this company.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
We're not gonna beat up on you with a stick.
We're not gonna hit you with a stick. Like if
you do this, you know you're gonna, you know, be
political suicide.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, we vote with us. Here.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Here here's a bunch of riches that that at your disposal.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, very good, find them at Indie politics dot orgo.
Bill A. Keem Shabaz, thank you, thank you. It's Kettle
a Casey Show ninety three w IBC.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And no, the end is new, so I face.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The final cursis okay, So I don't, uh, my friend,
I don't think I have a problem with this.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'll say it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Clue, if you're gonna try to enter the country from
certain countries, now, we are potentially going to require you
to show years of social media usage.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so this is coming from US Customs and Border Protection.
They now may require travelers from visa waiver countries like Britain, France, Germany,
South Korea to share up to five years of social
media history before visiting the United States. Now, the visa
waiver program allows you to stay up to ninety days
(18:20):
in the country without a visa.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, I don't think I have a problem with this,
because you don't have a right to be in this country.
It's a privilege. It's something that you earn, and as
part of that, we have a right to ask for
whatever we want in order for you to be here.
I would feel the same way about other countries. Obviously,
(18:43):
I don't travel to other countries, no problem for me.
But I don't have any issue with this whatsoever. We
have a right to know who's in our country. You
don't have a right to be here, and if you
don't want to come to don't come.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Similar social media checks they already exist for H one
B visas, also student and scholar visas, and and they're
also requesting other personal data like your email address from
the past ten years, name, birthdays and birthplaces of your parents,
spouse's siblings, children, and also some other details like you
(19:14):
know your address, your phone number, emergency contact. So with
all of that, they now want social media as.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I have zero issue with this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
A lot of people put their political beliefs out on
social media, So that's just the customs and Border protection
wanting to know who's coming in here and where do
they stand on things.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Well, it comes back to the idea of and this
is we've certainly been lost under Biden. It's our country,
We the people, the taxpayer sovereign right, we the taxpayers
of America. We own our country, right it belongs to us.
If you want to come here, we have the right
to put whatever safeguards around that that we want. And
quite honestly, we do need less people coming into this country,
(19:54):
and I think that is wonderful that if you want
to come here, we're going to ask you for a
B and C. You don't want to do it, don't
come here. That's fine, no obligation to come here and
where I'm no obligation to let you in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So there are a lot of conversations regarding social media happening,
especially today children across Australia. They woke up today with
no access to their social media accounts, those sixteen in
under and it is the first ban in the world
of an entire age group that is no longer able
(20:26):
to access their social media and Ram Emmanuel, former Chicago
mayor and former chief of staff for Obama. He is
now advocating that children in the United States are not
allowed to access social media under the age of sixteen.
He says, we either have to choose adults or algorithms.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, look, there's no there is very I can't think
of a compelling reason that a child would need to
be on Facebook. I can't think of a compelling reason
a child would need to be on Twitter. Does anybody
you know anybody who spends any amount of time on
any of those places. I'm guilty of this too, So
I'm indicting myself with this, who walks away from it?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Going that was a positive experience?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Great, glad I did that? Right Now, I do it
for my job and you know, et cetera. Right, we
create content on social media and then we use it
for the show. But I think it would be much
better world if I didn't have to do that. I
could get away from it. But I sort of load
to However, I will say this, well, I agree with him.
(21:27):
People under the age of sixteen have no business being
on social media. Ultimately, isn't that a job of a parent?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right? Do we need the government stepping in and creating
legislation no telling us how to parent?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
No, no, no, of course not. And again it comes
back to we have a real problem in this country
deciding what the age of an adult is. It's sixteen
for this, and it's eighteen for this, and it's twenty
one for this. That doesn't compute. Whatever your adult age
is is when you should be able to do all
of the adult things. And we need to I've been
(22:04):
saying this for years. We need to rectify that age
of consent. Smoke, drink, vote, drive a car, whatever we
decide as a collective, all of those things are. I'm
largely okay with I think we've probably come down on
the number being eighteen. But I got a real problem
with people that they can't choose to smoke a cigarette
(22:27):
now in this country, thanks to the Duke of Spendingberg
Todd Young. But they can go to a foreign country
and be sentenced to a horrible, horrible death. And you
can be sentenced to a horrible, horrible death at the
age of eighteen, but you can't You can't drink a beer, right, Yeah,
but then we say at sixteen, you can't drink a
beer till you're twenty one, But at sixteen you can
operate a multi ton heavy piece of machinery that can
(22:49):
harm not only yourself but everybody around you. See how
that just does. None of that ever is computed for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah. So earlier this year, back in January, you had
senators like Chris Murphy and Katie Britt and Ted Cruise.
They introduced a bill that would ban social media accounts
for children under thirty. So again there's another there's another
age that's being thrown out.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What is the compelling reason that you would say my
kid needs to be on Facebook? Like, what can you
think of one. No, No, I'm not trying to be facetious.
I'm asking this. Is there something I'm missing?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, I don't think there's anything you missing this. This
would apply to Instagram, Facebook, thread, snapchat, YouTube, TikTok, kick, reddit,
twitch x, all of them. Yeah, exactly, there's a huge list.
Snitch the one thing that I could see happening.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't. I have no idea what you just said.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's almost like when you have a child born, do
you have to go and grab all their social media
accounts and keep it with an email so that when
they are older they've got it to match their name.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
No, you just never let them on. It's become an adult.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
All right, when we come back, we will say goodbye
to this building. It has meant a lot to a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's Kennilly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
West, let me hear here, Divoss Cone's tonight better here
so long and going long.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Your again, Well, let's say not the end of our
show now, at least as far as we know Russia,
Well you never know. I mean, look, there's a lot
of anything. First of all, my last day of the
year is Friday.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is true, Radiothon, That's right, yeah, but I love
how you do that. Every year, bank all your vacation
days to the end of December. After Radiothon, you're like, Okay,
I'm out, bye, see you next year.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And every year they're like, you will not be allowed
to do that. And then they're like, well, this guy
has so little going for him, let's just give it
to him.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh, it's sympathy they have.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I had a good excuse this year though, because Libby's
daycare is closed, and I was like, look, I'm not
gonna be here one way or another. You either give
me the off days or I'll just be insubordinate. Right,
got to do what I gotta do. But this is
the last our schedule to be We were told our
final program here at forty Monument Circle right tomorrow. They
are saying, now, assuming all the buttons work right, they're saying,
(25:24):
we're going to debut at our new studios. Do we
know the address. I'm not giving that out.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm sure they'll email it to us eventually. So how
long have you worked in this building.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I've been here since December of twenty sixteen. I was
brought in as a fill in guy. It took me
about six months to get in as a fill in guy,
and then I started out. Abdul used to have a
nighttime show. I started out filling in for him. I
(25:55):
did well enough with that that once the new year
came around that Hammer and Nigel knew they were getting
that afternoon show, but they had a night show for
a while. So of course Nigel was missing as much
work then as he is now. Sure, so I spent
about things never changed. I spent a lot of time
as the filling guy for them. Did well enough with
that that then they started letting me do fill ins
(26:18):
for the morning show, at which point then they hired
me because I was doing They really, look, I was
a horrible producer. This will shock you. I didn't care,
and I wasn't really.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You're a horrible producer now of our show.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But they were like, this guy's so good as the
fill and we have to find something for him because
we're paying him so much money to be the filling guy,
we might as well just get some sort of full
time something. So they hired me to work with the
women and then become essentially the full time filling guy
for everybody. And then I was with the women what
for three and a half years, and then it was
me and Mock for a year, and now it's been
(26:54):
you and me for going what twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four. This will be our fourth We're coming up
on our fourth year. So that is my long and
winding road here at WIBC.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're at forty Monuments Circle. What was the building like
when you first arrived and what sort of changes or
renovations have you noticed throughout these years?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well? Anything, Well, it's been fascinating that how much the
populace has changed the industry has changed a lot, and
how WIBC because of our audience, Like all of this
is because of our audience. Everything I have everything that
you have. We have talent, we have the ability to
put shows together. But if our audience wasn't as great
(27:31):
as it is, none of this would have lasted, certainly
nine years. Casey, you have been in management and radio
for much of your life. How many people make it
anywhere in radio nine years?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh, that's pretty rare. Yeah, right, So it's normally a
couple of years and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Especially someone who causes as many promises as me.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's true when the phone calls come in and it's
the complaints against you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But it is really a tribute to our audience, because
our audience, while the radio industry has really struggled and
we have obviously under new ownership, from where we were
when I started, WIBC remains an anomaly in this business
that we just keep moving forward like a freight train,
and almost every ratings book one two or three, you're
(28:12):
gonna find WIBC right there in that one, two or
three slot. And we were two of the most recent
book Nobody's Beaten b one oh five seven during Christmas season,
And so that is really a tribute to our audience
that that has been the common thread throughout the nine years.
I mean, you think about what we went through. Trump
had just been elected the first time when I started here.
(28:33):
We've had all the Trump first presidency, the COVID, the riots,
the Biden years, the re emergence of Trump. We've had
Hulcombe be elected, all this other one on with him.
It's the engagement of the WIBC audience and how wonderful
and amazing they are has been the point of commonality
throughout this whole My whole time here.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, do you have a favorite memory here or anything
naughty that you did here in this building that you
can finally fess up to.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh, I did a lot of auditentions just building. Same
more words, so the family oriented program. Okay, those were
different times. But look, I just think I think that
the building and this this sounds look I other than
when I worked at the State House. I never worked anywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, I mean I worked at we were always remote
where you work for yourself, Yeah, I never.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I had never. I mean I worked very at very
young age. I worked at a radio station. But from
basically twenty one on it was or twenty two on,
it was all me on my radio station, my streaming company,
and then the brief time I went into the state
state government. But like I'd never gone to work every
(29:49):
single day, I'd never been around co workers, Like this
was all foreign to me. When I know that sounds
ridiculous to say, but this was all all foreign to me.
And so the building is the point of commonality, right,
Like as a kid, you grew up coming here and
you would see, Now it wasn't WIBC on the circle
when I was a kid, but this building, these companies,
(30:10):
these frequencies were on the circle, and you would grow
up seeing the marquis, the WIBC headline, what do they
call it, the scrolling the news scroller out on the circle,
and you say that's where I want to be. I
want to be in that building growing up that that's
the place I want to be. And then you realize
(30:30):
I made it right, and the building almost becomes like
a person. Right, the building becomes like family because all
of these events nine years long time. It doesn't seem
like it, but nine years this building through all of
the stuff, your life changes, your growth, the birth of
my daughter, all of these things. Right, the building is
(30:52):
the place you always came to and came back to,
and it's sort of like you're moving on from that. Well,
I mean you've been here four years.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I have. And out of my thirty plus year
career in media, in this radio industry, I have gone
through ownership changes in the past, I have done format changes,
and I have relocated and out of all of those things,
relocating is one of the toughest things to do in
(31:21):
radio because it's such a technical field. However, it's not
as tough as television because you could, honestly mcgiver or
radio station with some duct take duct tape and a
rubber band and keep it on the air. But it
should be a pretty seamless process. They should honestly flip
one switch, maybe have a second of dead air, flip
(31:42):
another switch, and we'll be back on. To the average listener,
they won't notice the difference unless they're watching on the
YouTube feed. I think our new studios are going to
be glorious. We're going to have brand new equipment. We're
not going to have the frustrations of things breaking down
or breaking down the bathroom making weird noises out of nowhere.
(32:06):
So I'm really excited about the new opportunity for WIBC
and what this can become, not only for us and
what we'll have to not deal with on a daily basis,
but for our viewers on the YouTube channel, because I
think they're going to see how the new studios are
going to be great.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, and when you close a chapter, I've always said
this about WIBC. I have lived my dream, especially the
past five years with my own show. Yes, it's been
it's been a great dream. It's if they came tomorrow
because I always get the people. I can't wait to
fire you the bell will told for you. You've been
(32:49):
at that for nine years. You people have been very
passionate for nine years. And it will happen eventually, not
because you cheer for It happens to everybody. And I've
always said if it happened tomorrow, I would be sad
that I didn't get to engage with our audience. But
how many people can say legitimately they lived out their
childhood dream. And for me it was to be on
WIBC and in this building that I grew up walking
(33:12):
past and going, wow, that's awesome. You'd come down here
during Christmas time, everything's lit up and go that's the
place to be. And so one of the things we
got about a mental left here. When you close a chapter,
I think you take a reflection of everything that happened
during that chapter. And I just want to thank all
(33:33):
of the people, whether it was Matt Hiblin who first
brought me in, Hammer who was a huge advocate to
get me in here, David Wood who gave me the
opportunity to be a full time producer, and then obviously
took the huge flyer against I'm sure all of his
better judgment to give me the show Jeff Smollien for
all the money, yeah you know, and this building, and
(33:56):
then obviously now Urban One and their opportunity. But most importantly,
I want to think our audience, because all of these memories,
all of these special things I've been able to live out,
and the nine years we've had in this building, it
is because of you, and that you continue to engage,
(34:16):
you continue to support, you continue to listen, and whether
you listen, and I'm really the only person who can
say this on this station, but whether you listen because
you love us, or you listen because you hate us,
and there's a lot of you, I get it. We
love you too because you all contribute the same way.
So from the very very bottom of my heart, thank
you for thank you for letting us live out this
(34:36):
dream every day. Thank you for the memories we've been
able to make in this building, and we'll try to
give it to you just as good in the new building.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I'm going to go spend some extra time on the
balcony looking at the view of the circle, and thank
you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
We'll catch you back here tomorrow from our new location.
This has been Kendall and Casey On ninety three WIBC
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