Kendall & Casey Hour 3, 7-29-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Joe Rogan is speaking out about Trump.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, I once say vocal supporter of Donald Trump, he's
now publicly being critical of him and his administration in
their handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Joe Rogan car
accused Donald Trump of gaslighting his own base.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Well, he is. I think that's a great way to
describe it. Because we just talked about the We have
the audio of Trump that we just played that's earlier
on in the show Kevin of him talking about Okay,
So there's two things that are in this audio that
I want people to listen to. One is he gives
a very specific amount of times that he claims Bill

(00:44):
Clinton went to went to Epstein Island. And two he
then what there's some very interesting terminology that he uses
on not going to the island. So let's take a listen.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm glad I did if you and other truth And
by the way, I never went to the island and
Bill Clinton went there supposedly twenty eight times. I never
went to the island. But Larry Summers, I hear went there.
He was the head of Harvard and many other people
that are very big people. Nobody ever talks about them.
I never had the privilege of going to his island,

(01:21):
and I did turn it down, but a lot of
people in Palm Beach were invited to his island.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Okay, so okay, this is up time. Okay, so come
several things here. And this is where people get mad.
It's the bull crap. Cut the bull crap. Okay, where
are you getting that Bill Clinton went twenty eight times?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Twenty eight times? Because a normal person would have just
said a couple dozen.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Right, or how do you know he went at all?
Are you just pulling it out of your ass? Okay,
let's start to get to the bottom of why Trump
is so mad about Epstein because Trump made a lot
of stuff, was just winging it right, and he was
saying anything to get elected. He's a politician. That's what
it's starting to look like now that that you were

(02:01):
willing to say whatever in order to get elected, and
now you're not following through on it. So where did
you get twenty eight times? According to who right? If
there is some evidence of that, if the government has
some evidence of that, then put that out. That's what
we want to see.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, and that's why Joe Rogan is saying that they're
gas lighting their base because they just claimed that there
was no client list to release. But now Bill Clinton
was there twenty eight times.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Let's go to the second part of this where he
says I didn't have the privilege of going to the island.
You know, you said, maybe he's being sarcastic. Well, then
you talk about not being able to read a room.
If you're being sarcastic or trying to poke any sort
of fun out of that, like that, what a horrible thing.
And if it's not, then what are you saying I
didn't have the privilege of going to that? It was

(02:47):
what a bizarre, totally inappropriate word to use. And then third,
did he not admit I was invited to go?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
He did, but he said no.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, so you work close enough to Epstein they get
at right, So now you can't say it's utterly ridiculous, Like, Casey,
were you ever invited to Epstein island?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I was not invited either. Why because we didn't know
Jeffrey Epstein, we'd have any relationship with it. If you're
close enough to get invited to some guy's private island,
that means you have some relationship with him. Again, I'm
not the person who thinks that Trump was doing anything
if ferries are untoward or these horrible, unspeakable things. But
when you will get caught with inconsistencies, we'll just call

(03:34):
them inconsistencies. Then people start going again sound familiar. When
you get caught in one inconsistency after another and you
can't tell a coherent story and you can't give a
straight story.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Live feeds a lie, and then people are.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, Okay, now we've caught you in multiple things that
don't add up. What else are you hiding?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So Rogan went on to say, this one's a line
in the sand. This is it. He said, Trump was
going to come in, drain the swamp, figure everything out,
and then they're trying to gaslight you on that. So
this is going to remain a focal point until it's
all out there, until everybody knows right what happened.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
When you get caught with something that doesn't look good,
the best thing to do is just explain it and
be done with it. As a politician, I knew the guy.
I associated with the guy. I had multiple meetings with
the guy. He was a rich financier. I was in
the real estate industry. We talked about a couple deals.

(04:38):
I got to know the guy very casually, and you know,
that was the extent of our relationship. So, yeah, was
I friendly with him? Sure? Did I know the guy? Sure?
Did I associate with him on multiple occasions. Sure, did
anything to do anyth of this? No, of course not.
That's utterly ridiculous, that's how you would do it. But
instead Trump has made it worse, like like, oh, I
didn't know the guy to blah blah blah di this that. Well,

(04:59):
there's pictures of you guys, tog, there's multiple Hey, I
don't do drawings. Well, there's a bunch of drawings that
are currently for sale. I didn't really knew the guy.
What I got invited to is private island, like all
these things that'd match up.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wait, he's embarrassed by he's embarrassed by his past that
he was even in business of any sort with this guy.
Elon Musk, you know, was really critical pointing out that
his name appeared in the documents related to Epstein, and
that's where they started to fall apart. But it's the
trickle of truth which makes it worse. It's just a
little bit here, a little bit there. You just drag

(05:31):
it out, just come clean, say, hey, this was our relationship,
this is when I met him, this is what we discussed.
I wasn't involved in any of that nefarious activity on
the island, but yes I did do this deal with him.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And don't forget the idea of human sex trafficking and
a Trump campaign and exposing it runs back. Not only
did this campaign, but if you remember twenty sixteen, the
pizza gate, and there's this which look whatever you want
to call it, there clearly are worldwide sex rings. There
clearly is sex trafficking. Is clearly a problem in this

(06:09):
country as those countries around the world. These things do exist.
Now to who's running what or whatever. But Trump didn't
shut any of that down. He allowed that to be
a thing that happened the first campaign that was out there.
So he doesn't get to act like after eight years
or whatever of campaigning in and on and around this, oh,
you people are ridiculous. You should let this go. No,

(06:31):
people are very concerned about human sex trafficking. They are
very concerned about the abuse of children. Again, it come
back to there are people who have made entire careers
like a Chris Hansen exposing this. There's entire networks of
streaming services dedicated to there are these people on the
internet who are the you know, the the amateur hunters
who do this, who catch these people. Clearly, there are

(06:53):
all sorts of people out there who are willing to
have sex with underage people, who are meeting what they
think are underage people. This is a very very serious issue.
The public is engaged in it, and for Trump to
act like, oh, you people are being ridiculous. Look at Obama. Yeah,
we should look at Obama. We totally should look at
Obama and Clinton and all the stuff that they pulled,

(07:13):
but we should also be looking at this.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, because you have to consider with the New York
High society and if they were running around within the
same group. Even if Donald Trump's I never went to
the island, as you mentioned, these are networks and all
of that money is all.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Part of it.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
So no matter what deal they were doing, chances are
it's linked to it somehow.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah. So the best thing Trump could do is come
out to be completely honest with all the association he
had with Epstein, because again it's in Trump's mind and
I there are a lot of people who are good
at here's a great example, and he just recently passed away.

(07:58):
Later on in life, the wrestling community was very critical
of hul Cogan because he would tell a lot of
stories that were just blatant lies, right, And it almost
became a running joke. And there are people who had
done podcasts and stuff would expose these things, and it
became like these ridiculous just lies that hull Cogan would
tell about his career, and people were always joking. He said,

(08:20):
your real life is actually fascinating enough, you don't have
to lie about it. But one of the things that
I think happens with entertainers, with people who are beloved
by the world, they tell tall tales, right like. It's
sort of especially as a wrestler, right like, because the
whole thing is a work. You tell these tall tales,

(08:44):
and pre Internet or pre certainly social mediahere, everybody scrutinizes
everything you said. You just got away with it for
so long. You know, it's part of the charm. It's
Missus O'Leary's cow in the Chicago fire, and you know,
like all of these things, right, But then you never
are able to because she's been so long being able
to do this. Biden's a great example of this. He

(09:04):
told these lies for so many years, these ridiculous things
about Amtrak and how long he wrote the thing, and
nobody ever called him out, and so it just became
second nature. There used to be a character was that
Tim Wilson used to do at the famous comedian called
Uncle b S. And that was part of his comedy routine,
and he would tell these ridiculous stories about places he
was and things he encountered. And I think for a
guy like Trump, he just exaggerated for about so much

(09:28):
for so long that it sort of became part of
the act. But the problem is when you're saying We're
going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it,
everybody knows Mexico's not paying for the wall, and Wall shouted.
It's part of the charm, and it's like hitting the
note on you know, when satisfaction starts at the Rolling
Stones concert, everybody knows what's coming next. The problem is

(09:49):
this ain't that this is really serious life for death
stuff and for you to be pulling the Trump routine
on it on I don't do drawings, Yes you do, dude,
They're all over the plane.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It completely damages his credibility on other issues. Then and
after a while, when they start to tell these lies
and exaggerate for so long, they start to believe them
as well. It becomes part of who they are, and
they also start to believe their propaganda that's not true.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And again, like when some guy like hul Cogan is
lying about whether he was asked to be in Metallica
or whether he was asked to do the Mickey Rourke
character in The Wrestler, it's easily disproval stuff. You just
chuckle about it and go on. It's not life or death.
It's just some guy who's just full of it, right,
and we chuckle about it on podcasts and hear it

(10:42):
and go or merry Way. Trump is the president. He's
the president of the United States, the most powerful man
in the world, and we're dealing with something that is
very serious and affects many many people. And there are
kids out there actively being abused in human sex trafficking rings.
And he needs to cut the crap and he needs
to come clean and need to get to the bottom
of what what happened here.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You're listening to Kennel and Casey, it is ninety three
w IBC.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
No. I was like, what are we doing. It's my
job to say we're doing okay. So we have a
resolution in this case. And by the way, it's Kenel
and Casey show and Rob Casey's here. Thank you for
joining us today. We have a resolution in the case
of the man who was charged with what's stalking Caitlyn
Clark Rank Clark. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So, Michael Lewis is his name. He's from Texas. He
was sentenced to two and a half years in prison
after he pled guilty to threatening and harassing her. He
sent some explicit and violent messages to her via social
media for about a year, and he received the maximum
sentence for his felony charge. Two and a half years

(11:57):
doesn't seem like very long to me.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, yeah, and you know, obviously a variety of things
go into it. What there was a plea deal obviously,
so you get a reduced whatever. Now, some feeszing things
came out the Indie Star amongst others. Have you know,
big expose as on this if you want to read
all about it. One that was interesting was this guy
traveled from Dallas, the Dallas area to Indianapolis. He was

(12:22):
in Indianapolis when the police encountered him. So very serious, right,
I mean, it's not just some guy in his bedroom
doing something. He had traveled across the country. Now he
was at a hotel and he had sent these messages.
The police had an encounter with him. They actually went
to the hotel, had a conversation with him, did a
welfare check, and then he proceeded to keep sending. It's

(12:45):
like they, I guess, decided not to apprehend him or
detain him at that time, and then he kept going, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
They warned him and he did. He kept going. But
now he has a no contact order and he's got
to stay away from Gamebridge in all Indiana Fever events.
But he continued to send her messages via social media.
He said he got banned from Gamebridge, but maybe he'll
go to road games. Yikes, that's scary for her.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, the judge, I think, even alluded to this that
the guy has some mental health issues obviously. And I'm
trying to read the Star article and I thought I
thought there was something where the judge had said something
about him needing to get mental health you know, evaluation
or help or whatever. And I'll try to try to

(13:38):
find that I'm not seeing in the article. I'm looking
at it from you. But anyway, I mean, the guy has,
you know, some serious issues that are going to be
vetted out beyond just being incarcerated. It obviously takes him
off the street, which is good, but it does also
underscore right, like everybody thinks it's cool to be in
the public eye, thinks it's cool to be a public figure.
Wouldn't it be neat to have people recognize you when

(13:59):
you places, or people want your autograph or want your picture.
There's also a lot of people that are just completely
messed up in this world.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And want to do harm.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, And you know, for someone like her, she's not
bringing the heat on anybody. She's just some person out
there playing basketball. And you feel really bad for her
because she's subjected to something like this when all she
wants to do is just entertain people and give people
a good time.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah. I think about this, like, you know, everybody always
comments on how popular and how skilled she is athletically
and how much money she has for all of the
brands that she's promoting. But at the same time, you
have to think this was a twenty two year old
woman in a strange town who just moved here, recent
college graduate, and you've got this guy sending her creepy messages,

(14:54):
who's in an imaginary relationship with her. It kind of
brings it back down to like, yeah, she's just a
young woman who's starting out in her career as well, Well.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Think about this, she's basically the same age as your daughter.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
She is the same age as my daughter who has
just moved across the country starting her career.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, you just touched on a great point, which is
we lose sight of this, not just with her, but
with these athletes collectively because we see them as super
like because of the attention that you get. You see
them because they're in an adult world and they're in
an industry which is consumed by adults, that you lose
sight of the fact that picture what you were like, right,

(15:34):
Like I think about all the like when I was
twenty three or twenty four years old. I started my
first business at twenty two, But in terms of so
I had a pretty good hand and then ended up
being a pretty successful business. And I bought a radio
station at twenty four, So I had a pretty good
understanding of the adult world. But don't even think about

(15:55):
like all the stupid stuff I did, like what I've
been able to handle the magnitude of it's one thing
known a couple businesses and buy some stuff and whatever,
but the magnitude at that age of being there.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
How to navigate that.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Right, Like, you lose side of the fact that these
people they don't I mean, you get experience over time.
They don't just PLoP you down and then you have
to do this. Obviously she is as she elevated, but
all of these people, we lose sight of the fact
that they are basically just young kids. And think about
what you were doing at that age.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Right when I think about that, and when I was
twenty two, I mean I was living in an underground apartment.
We called it the subterranean chalet because it was the
kind that had just a little window that was ground level,
and you know, I had like a mattress on the
floor because I didn't have a bed frame. You know,
you're just starting out those sort of things and you're
trying to navigate. Oh my gosh, this is how I

(16:45):
learned to pay bills and just provide for yourself out
of your parents' house. Now obviously she's got a much
much larger, substantial paycheck in which to help her enable
that situation. But still just a young person and you've

(17:05):
got this guy who's being a total creeper. And it
also shows that, you know, just the online harassment, how
it can turn into the real world situation.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, and you lose. Look, it's what you give up.
And it's like, don't cry for me, Argentina. These people
live charmed lives, but you give up. You don't realize
how much you need normalcy until you don't have it.
And these people give up, whether it's a Kaitlin Clark
or the Taylor Swifts or you know, any athlete right

(17:39):
of any sort of high profile give up. There really
sounds weird to say, but like they're right to normalcy.
Like that's the trade off. Is you get all this money,
you get this fame and get this adulation, get this stuff.
You get this lavish lifestyle, and you can turn it off.
Like when you're not in season, you can in the
off season go retreat to whatever compound you've got.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Right, But in season, you can't go into an RBS, right,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You simply you give up the ability to do that.
And it's just something we lose sight of until something
like this hits and you realize there are nutbags out there,
there are crazy people.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Did you know that she was dealing with this? How
does it affect her gameplay and her environment around her
teammates because she's living in fear when she's unprotected.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
True Drew asked on the YouTube, has anyone ever asked
me for my autograph at the night with WIBC? Yes.
I kind of think it, like, we get a lot
of pictures, people want to take pictures. I don't think
I'm famous enough that people would want my signature, Like
it's not going to appreciate in value, But we do
get a lot of people who want pictures or whatever.
People want to come up and talk, and I don't
pretend to anyway be close to anything to this, although

(18:54):
we do get a lot of people who hate us,
and we do get a lot of fun things in
the mail and things like that, but nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I have had threats before. I don't think, Yeah, I've
been asked for my autograph before. More than anything, what
I noticed as people, what do you think of this? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
because they hear us talking about it every day and
then you know, like my neighbor is always asking me.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay. So James Briggs, a friend of the show, calumnist
The Indie Star, has a fabulous piece on what a
just a wretched rotten dude Diego Morales is and it's opinion.
So we'll read some of his opinions if we go back.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three wibc.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh Rolling Stones, there job Kevin. Do you know Mick
Jagger's eighty two years old now I believe it. He
just had a birthday.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think still runs around on stage too.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was laughing with my dad because he was like, man,
when I was a little kid in nineteen sixty five,
I saw Mick Jagger on TV for the first It's like,
here we are fifty fifty years sixty years later.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
He's still still doing the same thing, the same moves. Yeah, exactly.
The guy definitely has a passion for what he does.
I mean that is, when'd you get sick of sick
in the same songs?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well that long? Look okay, look like there's a The
Rolling Stones don't tour anymore in the sense of it's
not one night we're in Phoenix and then the next
night we're in Dallas, Texas. I think they do what
like probably ten to twenty very large venued international shows
every year. A handful those might be in the United States.

(20:36):
It's not the way it used to be. So I
think at this point it's sort of like we jet in,
we do the Delio right, and I slide around the
stage for an hour and thirty minutes. I have a
plane waiting. I'm right back where I started from before
the sun sets. Yeah, you know type of thing. So
I think at this point they've kind of got it.
They kind of got it narrowed down, you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Know, works for him.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
But anyway, all that said, a good choice by just
eighty two years old, and still I don't buy have
that energy. Well, I mean, it is amazing to thank him.
And what I was when my dad and were talking
to this, I was laughing because the Rolling Stones, and
this must have been like two thousand and two, had
a big comeback. They had not toured for quite a

(21:20):
while and they had a big comeback and HBO had
a big special and Ron Wood who is the bass
the is he the bass players out right or the
one the guitar player anyway, he's the third. It's Mick Jagger,
Ron Wood and and Keith Richards are the three remaining.
Charlie Watts was still there at the time, but they
had ron Wood is a couple years younger than the
rest of them. He was in the Small Faces with

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Rod Stewart. They came up together, So I think ron
Wood is like four or five years younger, which would
make him in late seventies now. But at the time,
the Rolling Stones were sixty, like they were sixty years
old or something like that. And as I was just
graduated high school and it was like, these guys are
so old and they're going back on tour, and they
asked ron Wood because he was in his mid to

(22:03):
late fifties, like so you're kind of the baby of
the group, right, Like what's that like? And it's like,
these guys are still out there doing this, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
When they were younger, they used to alternate when the
Beatles and the Rolling Stones would release the song Oh yeah,
because they never wanted to do it on the same week. Yeah,
they knew they'd be competing for the top spot.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
There is a theory, and it's true. My very very
good friend of Mentor. Jay Baker told me this years ago,
and when you think about it like it blows you
away when you actually it is accurate. From nineteen sixty
nine to nineteen seventy four is the greatest five year
window in the history of the world when it comes
to music, because you basically had every great rock star

(22:47):
or band. Now we're all of them at the pinnacle, No,
of course not, but you basically had them all active,
mainstream and accessible at one time. And I'm talking everything
from Elvis to the Beatles, to the Rolling Stones, to
Frank Sinatra, to the early the very young Bruce Springstad, mean,

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all of that Led Zeppelin, all of that Rod Stewart, all.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
These guys happening at the same time in a five
year window.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
We're all active and mainstream and together. And that is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, and then you've got them all switching who they
want to play with, like you know, Eric Clapton coming
in saying, I like what you do, Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, unbelievable anyway, Okay, So we talked about this a
little bit earlier in the program Indie Star is on
Fire Today, which again, like I said this before, and
I'll say it again. I'll keep saying it. Diego Morales
is a genuinely stupid individual. Like there are some of
these politicians who I look at and go, that guy
is really bright, and that sucks because he's pretty maniacal,

(23:48):
but he's really good at what he does. Diego Morales,
if you have a conversation the Indiana Secretary of State,
he is a genuinely stupid individual.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, I think he thinks he's smarter, does what he is.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
But if U is the problem. And so as a
result of this, you know your limitations exactly. And as
a result of this, it really helps us in the
media because he keeps putting himself, he keeps running his mouth,
he keeps putting himself in position doing things that draw
attention to who he is and what a just a
rotten person he is, and how he is in twenty

(24:18):
four to seven campaign mode and is willing to use
whatever resource available to him to remain in twenty four
to seven campaign mode.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Okay, use whatever resources available to him, and the resource
last week was the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting where.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
He launches into So what happened was we did a
big thing about his campaign finance report and all the
red flags that were in that. The Indie Star did
a big expos and all the red flags in his
campaign finance report. And because there are a lot of
red flags that he didn't want to answer, he just
launches into, unprompted at the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board, where

(24:56):
it's like, we're just making sure the motor vehicle people
are obeying the laws and you know, acting in an
upright and reputable fashion. A fifteen minute tirade centering around
the fake news and who's he named? We know that's
what set him off because he named us and the Star. Well,
many other people have covered the Diego Morales shenanigans over
the years, the Capitol Chronicle, the TV stations, the Indian

(25:18):
reporter guy, but he went after us in The Star
because that made him mad because people are like, yeah,
this seems kind of sketchy some of the stuff going
on here. We'd like to know more about it. And
who knows who barked at him as a result of that, right.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Absolutely, well, he insisted that he didn't care about the critics.
Really going on and on about it for fifteen minutes
shows that you do care.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, And let's review what Diego Morales is. He's a
twenty four to seven campaigner who is using your money
to do it. When he talks about, oh I go
to this county and I go to that county. You're
not using your own car, your own gas. What the
hell else do you have to do? All day? You
go places with taxpayer resources on tap, taxpayer time, getting
paid by taxpayers. That's what you do, dude, right, No,

(26:06):
you going to a county fair. You don't get a
pat on the bag for that. You going to some
county and presenting a check of taxpayer money that you
put your own name on, by the way, which is
totally gross. You don't get a benefit for that, And
he wants you to mistake that for being some above
and beyond thing. We have the same thing with Micah,
and Mike's like, well I need this car because I
got all these counties. Don't have to go to all

(26:27):
these counties. You going to the candy store, Micah? Are
you going to the music store and doing a drum solo?
Are you going to the pizza king? Does nothing for
the taxpayers. You could meet with all these people on
zoom you get zero zero credit Diego, Micah, any of
you for going places for photo ops on my dime.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
So Briggs says that Morales's work ethic isn't the problem.
It's his corruption. It's that Morale is criss crossing Indiana's
ninety two counties, as he put it in a taxpayer
funded ninety thousand dollars Yukon Tonali. But Briggs goes on
to say, while we're on this point, why is Morales
driving two thousand miles per month anyway?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Is that an efficient use of time for the Secretary
of Stace.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So let's say the quiet part out loud. He is
gaming the system for his reelection by using your money,
you being the people hearing us right now, taxpayer money
to campaign twenty four hours a day, seven days a
week in a luxurious automobile.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's like Frank Mail, only the mobile version.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh, perfect, casey, that's exactly what it is. That's exactly
what he's doing. And he wants you to pat him
on the back. He wants you to tell him what
a great job he's doing. So what's interesting about this
Briggs article is Briggs goes back years to the unethical
ced red flag behavior from Diego all the way back

(27:52):
to what I believe was one of the biggest things,
which is that when he was running for Congress in
twenty eighteen his past voting record somehow voted in a
county different from where he was taking a homestead credit,
which you totally cannot do, and for some reason, because
the Democrats are totally an f nobody challenged him on it,
nobody filed a complaint about it, nobody forced law enforcement

(28:12):
to look into it. You cannot vote wherever your homestead
credit is is where you live. Wherever you take your
homestare credit, because you're getting a financial benefit out of it,
that's where you live. And yet Diego lived in a
county different from where the congressional district he was running
for was, and he knew that would look bad, so
he somehow magically voted in Plainfield. Well, living in Plainfield, well,

(28:33):
you can't do that. Nobody held him account. But Briggs
goes back into this in this article, which is good, and.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
He also points out the no bid contracts worth millions
of dollars, the employment of his brother in law with
the generous bonuses, the international travel with unclear funding, and
also all the taxpayer money on promotional swag that has
his name on it. We talked about the maps yesterday.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Okay, So here's a line from the piece that it's
a long piece and he does a good job of
going back through all the bull crap with Diego. But
I think is one of the great lines of the piece.
He's sharp, he's detail oriented, he puts an effort, but
he applies those presumptive virtues toward deceiving others and serving
his own interests. One of the hardest parts of writing

(29:25):
about Morales is deciding which scandals to reference, because the
list is tediously long for reader and writer alike. That
is perfect. That is the perfect summation of Diego Morales.
Everything he does is for himself. Everything he does is
to benefit him. And what he does because he's a
fraud and a liar, is he looks at you and

(29:48):
wants you to pat him on the back for it.
Everything he does is for himself, and he wants you,
while using your money and resources to pull it off.
He wants you to say thanks for doing that.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean, just look at all of the international travel,
the trip to Hungary?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Was that for you?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Did that help.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Poosier's oh all right, Well, look, we're gonna stay on
this because every time we try to get out of it,
Diego brings it back up again, and the re and
heat when you keep responding like this.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
There's a reason for that. It's the old saying is
you're over the target. And the case of Briggs and
the other piece in the Indie Star today about Raju,
they're over the target. This guy is a walking, talking
red flag. And the reason we stay on it is
because he's in a position where he has access to

(30:45):
millions of people's personal information. He is the Secretary of
State who controls businesses and he controls elections, which means
he has data personally and professionally on millions of people. So, yeah,
you didmn bet when you go to a foreign country
and you won't tell people who paid for it or
what you did there, we're going to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
He can't even control his own answers, right, So how's
he gonna be in charge of that? The last line,
one of the last lines of this article, he's going
to have to convince Republican delegates that he isn't insulting
their intelligence.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, it's a good piece by Briggs.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're listening to Kendally Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Hey, Well then we go okay, So there's interesting opinion
piece in the Hill Hollow by Doug Shown. Doug shown people.
You would recognize him if you saw him on He's
been on television for years. He's a long time Democrat strategist.
He was an advisor to Bill Clinton. They bring him
out on all the cable networks now. He's a pretty

(31:49):
mainstream moderate Democrats, sort of in the mold of a
president Bill Clinton. He'll speak highly of he gives honest
assessments of Democrats, he will speak highly of republic and
it's just kind of a respected guy. And he has
this new piece about the idea of AOC running for
even winning the presidency, and he says that the title

(32:13):
is president Okazio Cortes isn't as far of a reach
as it once was, and he goes into starts out
with her voting record on Israel. Yeah, and how she
voted for the Iron Dome after obviously she's made many
statements critical of Israel. Whether they're anti Semitic or not,
I'll leave that up to other people. But clearly she's
in the far left and her actual worldview, but he

(32:35):
noted how not only did she vote to fund the
Iron Dome, which all the rest of the squads voting
voted against it, she also previously got real lippy about
Israel and the Iron Dome.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
In twenty twenty one, she voted present right and on
continued funding.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Then the piece goes into sort of where she's positioned,
how much money she's been able to raise, And what's
in interesting to me is how much guys like this
dude running for mayor of New York or this lunatic
in Minnesota, how if they win. These mayor's races may
screw it up for her because she is far left,

(33:15):
but she's power hungry enough that she's willing to put
her ideology aside if it means her own personal benefit.
And so like a lot of people think she may
challenge Schumer, she's gonna run for the presidency, what she
gonna do. She's casting these votes because politically they will
endear her to fundraisers at all, who be like, yeah,

(33:38):
she's left, but you know she'll listen when the money's
laid down, she'll listen. But these, these true believers, for
lack of a better term, like the guy in New
York or the Minneapolis dude. They could screw it all
up for her because they get a lot of attention,
they get the spotlight. They are the socialists, and if
they become the face of the left, it's going to

(34:00):
make a lefty like her less likely to succeed nashally,
because people are like noop, no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well in regards to the guy who's running for mayor
in New York, Mom, Donnie, a lot of people are
very nervous, especially after what happened with that active shooter
situation in New York yesterday, because this is a guy
who's out there saying, defund the police. What are you
going to do in a situation like that if you've
defunded the police. But AOC has fundraising power. She raised

(34:27):
fifteen point four million dollars this past year, double that
of Mike Johnson, the House speaker.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, here's the problem with someone like her, though, It's
like it's like Kevin, appreciate this. It's like finally getting
to go out with the girl you always wanted to
go out with, and the idea of it is almost
always better than the thing of it itself, right, Like

(34:55):
it's like the dog that catches the car, What do
you do with it now? And in the sense of her, yes,
in the abstract, the idea of her or the fire
if you're I'm saying, if you're a lefty person, the fire,
the fighter. They the cable TV version of her. Sure,

(35:17):
that's awesome, she's an activist dream. The problem is, and
you're seeing this with these votes, she ain't really all
that true of a believer, because we know she hates Israel.
But yet when it came time to push your shove,
when it came to push your shove, and she saw

(35:37):
the money or the potential wrong term risk, she chose
to quietly go where the donors were gonna be. And
when you put her on a national stage, she's gonna
have to pick a lane. It's why the celebrities almost
never run. It's why man, I think they have to
give their opinion. Why does the Rock or the Oprah

(35:58):
never actually run for president? Because hey, mister Rock, now
you've got to take a You got to take a
position on should little kids be able to chop off
their peedie cut? Well, right, you're right on that. But
the biggest part is it's easy to smile and go.
Isn't the rock magnanimous? Isn't the rock just the greatest,
nicest guy. Doprah gives everyone a car. Isn't she wonderful? Hey, Oprah,

(36:19):
what's your view on letting fifteen million people illegally into
the country. Well, as soon as you have a view
on that, you start pissing people off. It's why Matthew
McConaughey didn't run for governor of Texas because all right,
all right, all right, that's not a policy position with
this woman, AOC. Once she gets on a national stage,
you can raise all the money in the world. Now
you got to pick a lane. And on a national stage,

(36:40):
when she gets pressed on voting for the Iron Dome, well,
now you're going to piss off a whole bunch of
people who don't follow it.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
All that, right, she's going to alienate her progressive.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Base, right, and she don't want any part of that.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
She likes.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Does this sound familiar? She wants to be a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
She likes campaigning, she's not actually governing, not act.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Does this ring a bell? Someone who just wants to
be on television, who talks a great game. Who actually
isn't interested in governing? Who when the when the when
the push comes to shove actually cowers and does what
the bosses tell them because they like the luxury or
the comfort of the position over actually standing up for
the things they claim to stand up for. Yeah, I

(37:21):
just think she's she will get exposed, and I actually
think she will run for Senate because it's easier, yep,
to continue to do the things she desires, which is
this be the celebrity politician and elevate and she can
beat Chuck Schumer in a blue state, and she can
move to the left and she and it's easier, it
would be easier. I think she's far more likely to

(37:42):
run for Senate than the presidency.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I agree with you. I think that she's got the
youth and the energy, and she does have the name recognition,
whereas Chuck Schumer has been dying on the vine and
in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
And I always say this about like here in Indianapolis,
the guy I respect the most is Jesse Brown, the socialist.
And Jesse and I wouldn't. We're not friends, but we
have a cordial relationship because we are the bizarro version
of each other. I am to the right what he
is to the left. But we know where each other is,
and we are respectful to each other, and we have

(38:18):
fun with each other, and we know that each other
thinks the other one is crazy, but we're honest. And
the dude in New York or the dude in Minneapolis,
I got way more respect for them than I do
someone like AOC because she's a fraudster. She'll do whatever's
best for her. Those guys are true believers.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Man, Well you've heard the stories. You know she's just
a bartender from the Bronx. And I think it was
Benny Johnson. He did a big expose on her that
she's not from the Bronx. She may have lived there
after college, but she grew up in an affluent neighborhood.
So the I grew up poor Woe is Me story
is complete fraud. Now she's also they're saying that she

(38:57):
violated the house gift rule. Yeah, or are not paying
for services and items that she received to go to
the met?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
How much was that dress? Was like thirty k?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That she won forty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It's a tax the rich on it. She goes this
big fancy ball and she's wearing a thirty thousand dollars
dress that says tax the rich. And yeah, now they've
said she still owes money back as a part of that,
or right, I mean she's yeah, because she didn't claim
it properly or whatever. The point is though, she's a
fraudster like the rest of them, and I will always

(39:30):
have way more respect for the true believer. You can
be completely nuts if you're a true believer and you
walk the walk and talk to talk. We can go
back and forth all day. People like her, she'll get exposed.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, thank you for listening today.
It's being Kendall and Casey on ninety three wibc DA.
Just like that,