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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Way, way, way, way, way. You're telling me Chuck Schumer
allegedly invented fake people.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He did, and he uses them all the time as reference.
They are named the Baileys. They're a middle class couple
from Massapequa, Long Island, and they have been invented by
Chuck Schumer as a centrist swing voter.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Archetype English casey, what do you mean? Like, what do
you mean they invented them?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, So let me see if I can put this
in terms you might be able to understand. Sure, when
you were a young radio disc jockey, did your boss
ever say, Okay, your target demo is a twenty five
to fifty four year old male. Okay, So in your mind,
I want you to picture that man, give him a name,
and give him an age, and that's who you're talking
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to on a daily basis. So in your mind you go, okay, sure,
my guy's name is Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
He's forty years old, and he drives a truck.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, And every time.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You crack the mic, you're supposed to picture Joe. Yeah,
got in your mind. Sure, absolutely, this is what Chuck
Schumer has done only with voters, and he's been using
them for years. He put out a book in two
thousand and seven called Positively American. He mentioned the Baileys,
this fake couple two hundred and sixty five times.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, so like, okay, what you're talking about is we
would do it in our heads. Except he has verbally
espoused or in the written word, that.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
These di's you mentioned them in speeches, that he's.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Doing good work for he's trying to help as a
senator or whatever. He's presented them to the public as
actual human beings.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And John Oliver, who on his late week tonight he
hosts a talk show, he was talking about these fictional
characters Joe and Eileen Bailey, But.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I actually want to talk less about Chuck Schumer himself
and more about two of his favorite people, Joe and
Eileen Bailey. There are a couple that throughout Schumer's career
he has talked about a lot.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
They're a middle class couple in Massapie, which is a
suburb on Long Island. Joe and Eileen Bailey, this middle
class couple they brought into Reagan Republicanism in nineteen eighty.
Joe and Eileen are worried about losing their jobs or
their friends' jobs, so that Baileys really don't believe in
trickle down. They don't believe in a whole lot of
government spending, but they believe in tax breaks for kids
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to go to college. He's an insurance adjuster and lives
in the New York suburbs. By New York standards, he
makes fifty thousand year. If he lived in the middle
of the country, make forty. Wife works in a medical office.
She makes about twenty. She might make fifteen elsewhere. And
you know, I have guided my political life through.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
The Baileyes, the Baileys have guided Chuck Schumer's political life,
which is a little way of given they don't exist, seriously,
he invented them. Schumer first introduced the world to the
Bailies in his two thousand and seven book Positively American,
Winning Back the Middle Class Majority, One Family at a Time.
In it, he mentions the bailies and astonishing two hundred
and sixty five times in two hundred and sixty four pages.
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But he've been talking about them for years before the
book was published. One of his former spokespeople said he's
always asking what would the Baileies think, And to be fair,
Schumer acknowledges that some may find this a little weird.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
If you ask my staff, I've been talking about that
and talking to the Baileys for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I have conversations with them.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
One of my staffers once said, I had imaginary friends
to the press got me in some trouble. But these
people are real and I respect them and I really
love them and I care about them.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Okay, sure, but they're literally not real.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Job they don't exist. So this is what I'm confused about,
because he almost contradicts himself there, Like he appears to
acknowledge they're not real, but then he says they are real.
Is he trying to say, See, this is where the
habitual lie. These people invent such doomsday type scenarios that
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they can't even find people that meet the scenario they've
laid on. Why you need government intervention, why you need
the government to do this, or that. The scenarios are
so ridiculous. He can't even find one person that meets
the thing, so he meets he makes these imaginary people.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's how out of touch he is that he can't
even use a real person as an example in his
mind or in real life. He's got to fabricate these things.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
He goes on.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He detailed a fictional backstory of them. Joe sings the
anthem at Islanders games, Aileen runs clothing drives at church,
They eat Kung pow chicken, and watch mainstream TV. It
just goes on and on and on, and he's been
doing it for years.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So it's almost like he's trying to have his cake
and eat it too, where he'll sort of acknowledge they're
not real, so that if he gets called on it,
he'll go, well, these are just people that I made up.
But he's really trying to do enough where he wants
you to believe that they're real, and he knows most
media see this is why Biden got away with it
for years. Biden lied so much when he had his
mental faculties. He was a liar then too, because nobody
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does this sound familiar somebody who lies habitually because they've
always gotten away with it and nobody will hold him
to account on it. And then once you hold them
to account on it, then you become the bad guy.
This is why these politicians do this, because they know,
first of all the people at the event or meeting
or whatever they're not gonna know enough for the most part,
are not gonna want to believe it to hold you account.
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The local media usually I'm gonna know to hold you
account to it, so you just get away with lying.
They just lie over and over and over. And that's
what he's doing here where he'll if he gets truly
pressed on it, he no, no, no, if ming knowledge are
not real, They're just like people I made up. And
my staff thinks it's funny. And one time they said,
I have imagined everything.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
But he cites them in speeches like this.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
My point, because he is, he is trying to present
them as real people, these people who run our country.
And I am talking about at the federal level, I
am certainly talking about to the state level. I am
talking about at the local level. These people are habitual liars.
They lie about everything, and then when they get called
to account, they turn to gaslight mode, like Schumer's doing there. Well,
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I've always said they were always.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
As I talked to imaginary people, you are you do?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They make you, They make you out to be the
bad guy when you catch them and you try to
hold him accountable.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He recently said that the Bailey's probably voted for Trump,
and they actually probably voted for Trump in five of
their last six votes between them.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The specificity of the I mean that's the thing, right, Like,
if you had the like you said, the imaginary guy
going down the going down the road, you know, you
get at your head and then you just go on, right,
you don't invent a life for him.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, so he's eating kung pow chicken and going to
food drives at church.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, use real constituents.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, this is clear policy positions that would be more beneficial.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But it's not even all that surprising. I mean, it
is ridiculous. So like we're talking about it because it's ridiculous.
But if I told you, hey, Chuck Schumer invented imaginary
people to help him help him better manipulate the voting
public into doing what he wants, would you been like
no way.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, I'd say, yeah, that sounds about right right.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And part of the problem with this is we have
so lowered the bar or the standard for acceptability that
that story you're just like yeah, probably, And I still
don't understand. This is what I still struggle so much with, Casey.
Why if someone screws up your order at the local
taco bell people will sprint to the towny chatterboard and say,
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how I'll just pull a Chuck Schumer. Aaron, a sixteen
year old kid working the counter at the taco bell,
ruined my evening by putting a chalupa in when it
was supposed to be a burrito. But yet your government
uses you, abuses you, lies to you, manipulate you, and
you can't even be bothered to go vote these bums out.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Okay, So you've got Donald Trump and Putin who are
going to be meeting.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We know when.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So it's supposed to happen Friday in Alaska for such
meeting in four years, Putin's first US visits since twenty fifteen.
Ukraine not participating, And you like, what do we think?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, here's what I don't. And I'm not saying like
I'm mad. I'm saying I genuinely don't understand how you
can cut a deal without Zelensky at least involved in
the process. I'm not even saying he has to sign
off on it. But you, how do you how do
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you cut a deal involving them without at least their
perception in their own minds of some sort of involvement
or co operates. And I don't understand this at all.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
They're not releasing the location of the meeting, the exact
summit location in Alaska that remains undisclosed. And legedly Putin
has been consulting with China and India and Brazil. But
it does make you wonder is Ukraine the top priority
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or the only thing they will be discussing. Imagine that
you've got Trump, president of the United States, Putin leader
of Russia.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, and I know this is an unpopular opinion, especially
in this country, but I can give you thirty reasons
we should be friends with Russia. I can give you
about zero reason we should be friends with Ukraine other
than being not friends with Russia. I mean, like, I'm sorry,
if you lay out, if you take the names of
the countries out of the equation and you just lay
out the vested interest of cooperation and getting along with them.
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Russia wins every single day, every single time. They win
from national security, they win economically, they win energy. I
mean all of these things. We should have no interest
in being against Russia on this particular thing other than
we just don't like Russia, right, We just Russia is
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never not going to end up with land. This is
what I mean. They're just never. They're never not going
to end up with land. Putin's not going to let
it stop. And unless he dies, which it sounds like
despite the rumors of him being in poor health not
that long ago, he must be doing very fine. Now
it's going to end this way. And I'm sick of
my money going to Ukraine. I'm sick of resources going
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to Ukraine. I'm sick of not having cooperation on the
aforementioned national security, energy, et cetera with the Russians, which
is a vested interest for us, Like our relationship with
Russia should be, Like it's like a neighbor you don't
like right like, or you don't necessarily care for. You
don't have to hang out into barbecues, you don't have
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to sit in each other's living room, but you have
a vested interest in what making sure the weeds are maintained,
the grass is cut if you see a prowler out
and about the neighborhood, that everybody's going to watch out
for each other. Like that's the relationship we should have
with Russia, which is we communicate rarely. Everybody knows the
rules of engagement. Though we share mutually mutual interests that
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we're going to cooperate on, and then everybody else can
just hide behind the privacy fence on everything else. That's
what the relationship would be with Russia, and we don't
have that right now because of Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Natos mark Rus said that he believes Trump is just
testing Putin's seriousness and if it's genuine, the.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Next steps will then involve Ukraine and Europe.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
All right, let's take a break. When we come back
a duel, we'll be with us. He has a big
old update on the AI Porngate allegations. He'll tell us
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Next it's Kendeln Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
See the form. So we've got a big update on
ai horn Gate's Kennel and Casey show, and Rob Casey's here.
Look who it is. He's an author, he's a broadcaster,
he's a provocateur. Dulaqum Chabaz. Hello, good morning, my friend.
How's it going. I'm doing all right? So yesterday we
do much.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Better than the broad administration. Right, well, I'll tell you that. So, yeah,
he had it back with the administration.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
He was on with Hammer and Nigel yesterday. He did
not seem like a guy that was very thrilled with
the things that are being thrown at him. But hey,
everyonde wants the job until they have to do the job.
But so yesterday Hammer and I got into this that
the chief of staff, Micah beckit's chief of staff her husband.
So Micah beck was chief of staff, her husband appeared to.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Would he be the chief of staff in law?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
He appeared to on social media allude to there being
a grand jury investigation. I posted the screenshot of it up.
He's tried to backpedal out of this. I mean, he's
words solid in himself, but he appeared to say, unprompted,
that there was a grand jury investigation going on into
something with Micah Beckwit's office. And you now are here
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to say that you have your sources have confirmed that
confirmed that even before he made it public. Well yeah,
I mean he look him stooging himself or the on
the office or whatever. That's a whole different thing. But
let's deal with the guy who's on the ground getting
the facts, is going to come on this radio show,
which he is not going to. You can say that
you are confirming.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
That, yes, there is a grand jury investigation, and not
just on the AI porn stuff, because usually the way
these investigations start is not necessarily how they finish, because
when you find one thing, there's another one, and another
one another one. And I know for a fact that
one of the things the grand jury is reported looking
at is possible ghost employment and falsified time cards, for example,
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people saying that they're saying they weren't work they're supposed
to have signed in maybe not have signed in out
doing other political type things or whatever whatever that is.
But I do know for a fact that a grand
jury is looking at a state grand jury is looking
at those possible things, and the federal government, the FBI
is also looking at some stuff too, because we've got,
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you know, images, and they've got the federal the federal
law that's involved and also the state law that's involved
on creezy fake m images of a sexual nature to
go after somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, So this is interesting because one of the things
I keep seeing on social media is people go, well,
where's the video, where's the proof? And my question on
this is, and now obviously you're operating off saying there
is indeed a grand jury. Your sources have told you this.
But I was operating off the guy yesterday mentioning grand jury,
and I said, have you ever seen a prosecutor ever?
Because we know the prosecutor's office is investigating at some point,
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you know, in some capacity. We knew that Craig Haggard,
whose wife is at the center of this alleged sharing
of AI pornography, had talked to the Marrion Kenny prosecutor's office.
But I said, whether it's a prosecutor's office grand jury,
have you ever seen them run out and go here's
all our evidence. Now we'll go to our bunker and deliberate,
like can you like you're an attorney.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
That's not how the system works. No, no, it is
not how the system works. And number one, because my
thing is this, if everything, if you did this investigation,
which the beck with folks playing, they did this investigation,
there was no wrong doing? Okay, well where's it? Where's it?
Where's at the very least, where is the final investigative report?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Who conducted the investigation? Who do they talk to?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Because because to do all this over a weekend, it's like, yeah,
we're going up to Michigan to go to the beach
and oh yeah, we're gonna do an investigation two on
an AI porn and we'll have it all back for
a Monday nine o'clock. Like, no, investigations don't work that way.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, it's here, let's go. Let's get into that for
a second. Because this is the thing people are like
Rob spinning, he's manipulating. No, I want to know one thing.
I want to see that investigation because it is like
common sense would tell you, these guys that are accused
of this, not only were they workers, one was an employee,
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one was an attorney for hire in the in the office.
They're not only people that are you know, working there
in the office. There are some of Micah's biggest supporters
and best friends. If you had definitively I.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Believe, I believe the term is enablers.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Look, I'm not getting into that. That'll all come out whatever.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I don't know about any of that.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What I do know is that if you add proof
that these guys who you're uber close to, that you
had state police come in, we know it wasn't Mary Kenny,
Prosecutor's officer IMBD that came in or forensics rs or
whoever he had come in and they found definitive evidence
in one day. By the way, that ain't how forensics
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investigations work. They don't find stuff in one day. But
even if they did, and you could not only clear
these guys, but set these guys up to sue Tom Labianco,
the journalist who broke the story, for everything he's got,
and you know Micah would love that fight. Why would
what are we on day twelve or thirteen? Now? Why
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would you let your guys twist in the wind like that?
I said this yesterday. If that's the case, if he
has that prooven, he's sitting on it. He's not only
a crappy boss, he's a crappy friend. And those guys
shouldn't stand for Those guys should be coming out and
demanding that he released all the information.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
But once again, when you're when you're part of enablers
r us this this is what you get. And another
thing and the other thing too is what I don't
fully believe that that that Micah fully appreciates just yet
is this could be the I'm trying to find the
right word. This could be this could be the political
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kill shot because so many people have been like, we
can't stand Michael beck With, can't stand his people, but
legally there's nothing we can do to get him out
of office. He's stuck that he's staying there. This could
change everything. Abdul is our guest. You can find him
over at indiepolitics dot org.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Real quick. I did want to touch on redistricting. We
got into this with Jim Merritt earlier. This This seems
like we talked about this on State House happenings. This
seems like Bray and Houston. You saw the looks on
their faces they were leaving that meeting last week with
the Vice president and the governor. I don't think they
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want any part of this because the Pandora's box, the
potentially opening versus whatever quote unquote reward they would get
this idea of a special session on redistricting. These guys
are hoping more dudes like Jim Lucas and Danny Lopez
and Tom's and whoever the other ones are that have
come out because I think they just are like, we
don't want anything to do with this. What's you know
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behind this scene stuff? What's say you well, let's put
it this way. I sent a text message to a
very prominent statewide state elected official recently, so you guys
are really going to do this and they did not respond,
which tells me everything that I need to know. When
I do, when I don't get it, and when I
don't get an usually i'll get an answered like an
hour or maybe like a day or two. When I
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don't get an answered period, that tells me everything that
I need to know. And when I go through official channels, Abdul,
we were in the meeting, really can't talk about it.
That tells me once again everything that we need to know.
Are they gonna be able to strong arm no enough
for Republicans into going along with them? No, you don't
think so. No, do you think this that Braun Will
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Braun can't call special He's gonna have to do a
vote count before he decides to do this.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
He can call a special session, and Jim, I'm sure
Jim mentioned earlier today, you can call a special session.
But once once you're in, they can do whatever they want.
You can't just call a special session for redistricting or
abortion anything can sure doing a special session? Right, So,
but that's why, by the way, A special session will
probably cost about three hundred thousand dollars and been a
place where you can't get your property text relea, Yes,
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So we'll spend three hundred thousand dollars to do something
that's probably gonna get thrown out anyway. But the bigger
issue you talk to the state Hofs Happens's going to
be a minute left here is right now. If you're
a Republican in Indiana, now, some people are having trouble
with this, but you just got to be scandal free
and show up and you're going to largely keep winning.
They're going to keep the supermajorities, blah blah, the state
wide offices, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
You are potentially pissing off so many people otherwise don't care,
won't vote, won't be motivated. You're if you try to,
especially the seventh district with ANDROI Carson, if you get
cute with that, you are creating potential havoc for yourself.
Not saying it's going to be, but it could be.
And Brayton, who said they don't want any part of
that headache, look look like this. It is the absolute
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perfect storm. You have the propertext. People who are already
mad at Governor Braun. You've got the Micah Beck with
people who are already mad at Governor Braun. You got
the progressives who already mad at Governor Braun. You got
the established classes like, oh God, really seriously, then they're
not quite mad yet, but you're basically doing everything possible
to bring Democrats back into power in twenty twenty six
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and twenty twenty eight. All right, find him over at
Indie Politics dot org. Abdul Keim Shabaz, thank you.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And by the way, Republicans Los, I don't necessarily think
that would be a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh, I agree with you. I think the best thing
for this state would be if Bobai runs for Secretary
of State next year and beats Diego Moreles. But that's
a conversation for another day. Kill a Casey show ninety
three WIBC. Can we talk about Bernie Sanders for just
a quick thing?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Is he doing well?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
There was something on TV? Yeah, we got the Fox
News on here in the studio and you know some
I don't even know what the topic was, but you
know they're doing b roll of people and there's Bernie
Sanders and he's like he can't stand up straight. He's bald,
he's got the hair that he has inside of his
head's going all sorts of different directions. He's wagging a
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finger like if you're like.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Crazy Albert Einstein, look to him.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
If you saw that man in an aisleway at your
local supermarket, you would say, sir, can I help reach
something for you? And yet this guy is like the
most popular guy in the Democrat Party and you know,
in what that poll we just read the other day,
he's one of the top people. And it's like, who
looks at the whole Bernie's I mean, he's a colossal fraudster.
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He owns these homes, the cars, he wants to take
everything from you who looks at him? Just look at
just the visual on him, and it was like, that's
who we need, our country needs.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
To be more like are you looking at him, going, yeah,
that's my guy that he's exuding confidence. So the tracker
on the bottom of the screen says poll party support
among Dens hits all time low. Yeah, so that's probably
why they had a picture of Bernie Sanders up. That
could be you would you consider him the leader of
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that party at this point, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Know who that is. They don't have one and that
and that's like you usually get a feel in politics
like Vance is definitely the guy. I mean, Ron de
Santas is going to be one of the great tragic
political stories of American history that he went from during
COVID the most popular Republican in America. Two, he won't
he won't ever get to be a president, a vice
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president like nothing. I mean the window will he is
going to become evan by You.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Don't think he'll get a cabinet position.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, but I'm saying in terms of that, nobody knows
who's in the cabin I mean we do, right, Yeah,
But if you stopped if you stopped the average person
right now, what Rubio secretary of state? Right, if you
stop the average person on the street and said, who's
the secretary of state? What percentage of the populace could
tell you who the secretary of state is? And that's
the tippy top one.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right, I think more people probably could have won.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It was Hillary Clinton, sure, but she's a celebrity, right,
She's an uber high profile person. What do you think
twenty percent if you win a monumous circle right now
and just throw the homeless people out of the equation,
like people that are actually down here working, contributing to society.
If you stopped them on the street and said, who's
the national Secretary of State?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh, I think it would be very low, especially after
I've seen some videos of a guy doing man on
the street questions, and these are the simplest questions, like
what country is Mount Rushmore in?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And people can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of really stupid people
out there. So my point is Vance is gonna be
the guy for the just put it on the just
put it up. It's Vance, right, He's gonna be the dude.
And you know, maybe Rubio's got a puncher's chance, but
they'll probably team up versus go against each other.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I would think so.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But the Democrats, there's no obvious person, and usually when
there's not a so think about the last sets of presidents, right, Okay, Bush,
Let's go back to Bush, because Clinton was not the
obvious guy. Clinton's the last one I can think of.
Because Bush Bush was obvious. He you know, his dad
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had been the president. It was him and McCain. Okay,
one of these two guys will win. But he sort
of seemed like from the beginning kind of the guy.
Even though McCain was a pretty good competitor, Obama was
definitely the guy. So Ever, he gave the speech at
the DNC and people were like, Oh my gosh, can
we just get this all over with. We know Cary's
gonna lose, Just get us to twenty two thousand and eight.
Let this guy be the guy. Trump to me seemed
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like the guy from the moment he came down the escalator.
He wasn't the guy three years out, but the like
the moment I saw him, and I was one of
the few people that thought, there, but oh, he'll flame it.
I was like, oh no, this guy's and this guy's
not flaming out. And but normally you can see in
the distance right like you can see who it's who
it's going to be. I don't see with the Democrats,
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but you know, even even go pre Clinton.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But yeah, I mean the one the people that right
now that you you look to, it's like the leader
of the party, Gavin Newsom, Pete Boudha, Judge, Bernie Sanders, AOC.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Now there's the one guy from Maryland who a lot
of people what you just call him. Yeah, I don't
know his name.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I'd have to look at it exactly what wes Moore
Wes Moore. Yeah, but I'm not blaming you, like nobody
nobody knows who Wes Moore is. Now, it doesn't mean
they might not overtime, but there's no My point is
there's no apparatus getting behind some person. Go okay, we
need to let people start knowing about this guy. This
is the person. And usually when one side is sort
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of consolidated, in this case for the Republicans, it's not
really a guy but an idea, which is trump Ism
or Trumpantism or magar whatever you want to call it,
advance is the guy the next logical, you know, standard
bearer of that that party tends to win, Like the
Republicans in O eight had no consensus. Is it Romney,
is it McCain? Is you know? Is it Juliani? Right?
(26:22):
And and the Democrats sort are the one exception of
that with Hillary losing. Hillary did it twice, but at
least she got the nomination in sixteen. So I just
I saw that thing of Bernie Sanders, and it's just
like who sees that visual? Just take away what you
what you even know about the guy that he's such
a colossal huckster that you just you don't just I
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just I can't fathom who the people are who are like, yeah,
sign me up for that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Speaking of jd Vance, he was calling on Elon Musk
to come back into the fold.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
He's obviously gott a complicated relationship right now with the
with the Trump White House. Though, my argument to Elon
is like, you're not going to be on the lefts
right even if you wanted to be, and he doesn't,
they're not going to have you back that that that
ship is sailed, and so I really think it's a
mistake for him to try to break from the president.
So my hope is that by the time of the
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midterms he's kind of come back in the bowl. But yeah,
I don't know that he would take my call right
now about anything.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Really, Boy, he doesn't that sound familiar. Hey, we screwed you,
we lied to you, we made you look like an idiot.
In this case, Elon Musk, we took a bunch of
your money. But hey, what other choice do you have.
You got to come back to us, because you're not
gonna You're not gonna go. That is so offensive that
he said that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Well, he's trying to downplay the America Party, Elon's America
Party and saying, you know you're not going to go
over there, so just come back to us.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
And of course jd. Vance is looking at his big wallet.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No acknowledgment of what these people again, Boy does this
sound familiar? No acknowledgement of what these people did, how
they lied, how they didn't follow through on their promises.
And they always turn the person who says you didn't
do what you promised to do in the bad guy.
You notice how that always happens. The person who is consistent,
in this case, Elon Musk, who said, I will support
you because you're pledging to do the following things. Okay,
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you didn't do the following things. I'm done with you,
and I'm gonna do everything in my power to hold
you accountable for not doing what you said. They turn
him into the bad guy. The people who follow through,
the people who are consistent in what they want, what
they want the country to be. And then the politicians,
the narcissistic, self absorbed we're more important than everybody else.
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Politicians always try to act like it's just professional gaslighting. Oh,
he's gonna have to come back to us, because what
choice does.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You got nowhere else to go?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, I got nothing else. He does have somewhere to go,
and that's whatever he wants to do because he's worth
two hundred and however many billion dollars, buddy, he can
do whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Jadie Vanson the same interview, he was telling a story
how he did not get an invite from Kamala Harris
to go tour the vice president's house before they got inaugurated.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
No, I had never seen it before, and it was
there was a bit of a controversy. I don't remember
exactly what had happened, but I think that normally it's
customary for the outgoing vice president to show the incoming
vice president's family the house. And we have three little kids,
so I guess at the time, our kids were like seven,
five and you know two. I guess Mirabel turned three
right before the inauguration, and so now they're a little
(29:31):
bit older. But you know, they had never seen this
house and USHA really wanted to show them. So what
we actually proposed is recognizing the weirdness of the politics
can usher take the kids over and just show them
where they're going to be living for the next four years,
and they were rebuffed.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So we took some like.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Old diagrams and some old photos and tried to show
the kids. Actually, a friend of ours in Cincinnati had
a book about the Vice President's residence, and so we
would show the kids what it would look like. But
that's as close as they ever got to it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
But it's a really beautiful house.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
So President Trump always jokes with me that I actually
have the nicest house, because the White House is a
bit of fish bowl, as you know very well. The
VPR is this beautiful sort of one hundred and fifty
year old mansion, but it's got thirty acres of private property,
private space.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
So Excheculy feels.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Like a real family home for us, which is really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What a scummy person. Kamala Harris is.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, he's got little kids, they're moving to a new place.
There's adjustment there. Now you don't get to come see lady.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
You lost, and you lost with every advantage imaginable, like
you had the media. Yeah, like I mean you had
every union. I mean like you lost because you are
an insufferable sea hag and the public couldn't stand to
be she lost the same. There is no reason Donald
Trump should ever have been the president, well the first
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time or the second time. Both times he and this
is one thing Trump either he doesn't know or he
just won't allow himself to accept. So many people voted
for Trump both times because the alternative was simply unacceptable.
And I just like, that is so rotten to do that.
I'm not surprised, Are you.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Surprised, No, not at all. I mean that seems like
a very vindictive sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, yeah, it's these people are miserable. They're all about power,
They're all about themselves. They could care less about being decent,
polite human beings. Like how many times in this industry
we paid it forward with other people, letting them come in,
letting them watch us, letting opening up our studio to that.
You know, I'm sure done this over the years, many
many places that you've been. It's just what you do
(31:35):
because somebody did it for you, right, somebody, I'm sure
Mike Pence gave Kamala Harris a tour of the of
the place, let her see the thing, letting her have
whatever she wanted, they're just what a rotten nasty woman.
Nasty woman it is Kendall and Casey.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Course back, Why are you so angry that young people
don't answer the phone?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Nobody said I was angry about it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh, you came in even before the segment. You were
just livid about this. You saw some piece of data
that young people don't answer the phone.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, that's the thing that's got me worked up today, Rob,
that's it. These dark teenagers aren't answering their phone.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Okay, what's going on? What's happening.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Oh, it's a new report.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That just says that teenagers no longer answer the phone.
And is this a lack of manners or is it
a new trend? And the study says it's a way
that they may control over their time, their emotions, and
their social interactions.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
They're like, you know, it's the old joke, why are
you calling me? Text me?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah? How many calls do the young people actually get?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I can't imagine it's a lot, because they're texting each other, right, yeah,
but when mom or dad calls, they better pick up right.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's interesting I think about this. We talked about this
in the sense of like watching stuff on the on
demand now nothing special anymore because you can access it
whenever you want. So, like, here's a great example, this
is what a rotten son I am. There was some wrestling,
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old timey wrestling thing that I have my dad tape,
and I was all fired up about it, and every
time I start to go over there to watch it,
I'm like, I'll just get it tomorrow, you know, like
it's there, it's on the thing, the recorder or whatever.
And yesterday he's like, I'm going to delete this in
one week if you don't come over here and watch
this sick of it being on my thing. I was like, okay, well,
(33:42):
now I got to go over there and do it.
But there's nothing when you have access to things at
all times, the special nature of it, right, it sort
of goes well.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's just like binge watching TV.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You can get through a whole series now in a weekend,
whereas before you had to wait it out and it
was like Christmas, right, the anticipation, Oh my gosh, this cliffhanger, what's.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Gonna happen next? And now you.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Can just plow through a show and it doesn't make
the next show as exciting and you don't have to
think about it all night or all week.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So I think it's the same thing with like phones. Now,
it used to be your conversation with someone or your
interaction with them was special because you didn't know you
when you were gonna get it again, Like if you
called somebody that was a special thing because there was
no Facebook, you didn't see them. It's sort of why,
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like people moving away isn't as big a deal anymore.
Remember like if you had family and they moved across
the country, you were devastated, right because you would only
see them a couple times a year at best, or
you would have to talk them on the phone. Now
you can FaceTime, you can Facebook, you can whatever. Like,
it's not it's not that it's not that big a deal,
and it dilutes the importance of in person communication with
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people because you have access to it at any at
any given time.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Well, this article is saying that not picking up when
someone calls is a new form of digital etiquette. It
signals boundaries and respect rather than rejection or disinterest. This
is their silent form of communication, not talking talking, Lottie, Yes,
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it's it's they.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Don't want to deal with the pressure.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They're just being polite and not picking up rather than
telling you, hey, I don't want to talk right now.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I don't. I don't think. I don't think they know
how to talk anymore. I think that's part of the
I think that's part of the problem. And we've talked
about this, like with Kevin, I don't think people know
how to interact in person anymore. Whereas someone like me
craved in person interaction. I'm far more impressive in person
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than I am on the internet.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I think the modern people, the modern young people, I mean,
I don't think they think they want anything to do
with the in person interaction.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
When I was growing up, we always the kids always
went in and out of the side door, and you know,
it had the uh it had the screen door on it,
and you could always tell when someone was running in
and out of the house because it would slam shut.
But whenever any of the friends from the neighborhood would
come over, they'd go to the side door, and my
mom always knew it was a kid, it wasn't a
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delivery man, it wasn't somebody for my parents, because they
would go to the front door yeah, Now doesn't matter
what door anybody goes to. You hear a knock on
the door, and people freak out.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Like who's here?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Hide, like I don't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh my gosh. I also think about like I lived
right next to the high school as a kid, So
when I got the to where I was in high
school during summer school, like I would just literally go sit.
That's saying I'd figure out when the more well assembled
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girls had their summer school classes. But because it was
a small school, there was generally one or two ways
in or out, and so you like you could just
sit there and it was like like some great military
genius had designed this for me, where they were like
funneling all of the girls through this one way to
get out, and if you just sat there, it was
just one hot chick after another who you would have
(37:35):
some sort of interaction with. They weren't calling nine one
one right, And so the law of averages says, one
of them is going to be silly enough to think
you're you know, you're ce, you got your act together
or whatever, and so but it's like people don't, you know,
people don't crave the ideas. So that would be so
weird now because well I text them or I see
them on the Facebook or the Instagram or whatever, like,
(37:57):
there is no creative socializing anymore, and people just don't
they don't need it, like they don't want it. And
that is so bizarre to me that that that is
a bygone and it's never coming back.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, you had way too much time on your hands
as a young person.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I freely admit, you know, my general everything I
did from the ages of about fourteen through well thirty six.
Well about how long have I been married?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
As you're doing the math in your.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Head, centered, I mean, but you just don't, you know,
people don't. It's a different I do. Like I think
about my daughter and it's like, what will it be like, oh, yeah,
you know, ten twelve years when she starts socializing with
people like, well, you never know.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
When your daughter's a teenager. She may not have to
go get her license to drive a car. She may
have to get the operator's manual on how to run
the Optimist robot to drive her roundly.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Casey, she lives close enough to all the places she
can walk, that's true.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And she can go see who what boys are going
in and out of the school.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Sure I can see it now, aren't you. Rob Kendall's kid.
Who No, I get that all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
No, no, no, you think she's going to deny you.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
All right, you are out tomorrow, you're out Thursday, Friday,
and then you'll be back with us next Wednesday if
you're lucky. All right, well you behavior self.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You too, and that's going to do it for us today.
Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening.
This is being Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC.