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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So how do we feel about all the
illegal immigrants coming to the state of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Are you talking about coming here to be detained or
are you talking about just coming here to hang out?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, they're coming. The big announcement came out yesterday that
the state of Indiana is now going to house a
whole bunch. They're going to recreate what do they calling it,
the Speedway Slammer. This is the new what was the
thing in Florida that they.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Called it Alligator Alcatraz?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Alligator Alcatraz, And they're creating these locations because the obviously
the Trump administration is doing their best to round up
as many of these illegal immigrants as they possibly can,
and the ones that they don't want out in decent society.
They gotta have some place to put these people. And
now apparently the State of Indiana has struck some sort
of deal with the Trump administration to house many of
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these people.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it's going to be at the Miami Correctional Facility.
It's being branded as Speedway Slammer. DHS says that it
will expand capacity by a thousand beds and it will
house some of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Which that's I mean, what you'd think the people they're
trying to that they're trying to house. By the way,
you've ever been to Bunker Hill, Indiana, which is where
the Miami Correctional Facility is located at.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So maybe we should take a tour sometime. Let's see
how far is it from here? They say it's only
an hour and fourteen minutes from here, so not really
close to the speedway, no, I think. Yeah, it's almost
as though they didn't know. Now, Andrew Ireland, our friend
friend of the show, had been lobbing for Cornfield Clink
to be the name. State Representative. Andrew Ireland was very
passionate about it being called the Cornfield Clink. However, they
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apparently have decided on Speedway Slammer as the nickname.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
There's other names they could have gone with. Miami Detained. Yeah,
all we got to do is get a holding center.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All we got to do is get on thirty one. Now,
Miami used to be Peru Indiana. Peru Indiana used to
be the home of the circus or the famous circus
in Peru Indiana. But anyway, Ice House, India and everybody, everybody,
here's the thing. Everybody's got to do their part for this.
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And it's easy to say, well, we got to get
these people off the street, we got to get them
out of decent society, and part of that is that
everybody's got to do their own sacrifice in their own way.
And if the State of Indiana can help facilitate this
in a highly secure environment, in a place that appears
to be an hour and fourteen minutes from me, that
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I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You're okay with that. You've got a question who's paying
for this? Will the state be paying for it or
the federal government? So Governor Brawn came out and he
said that Indiana is taking a comprehensive and collaborative approach
to combating illegal immigration and will continue to lead the
way among the states.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What does that mean. That doesn't say he's paying for it? Now,
this is like, if the State of Indiana has to
pay for this, I ain't down with that, because this
is a federal issue. They need to be paying for it.
But I'm fine with using the State of Indiana's resources
in order to house I mean, the federal guvern's going
to have to be all the people you have to
bring in create Indians not doing that, they would have
to be paying for that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Not everybody's happy about it. Representative Ed Delaney not a
fan of the idea on a.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Corn version of the alligator Alcatraz, and I hope the
governor will be insistent that our normal Indiana high standards
of hospitality and human decency.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, so they stop hospitality and human decency. They're potentially
highly dangerous illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What do you mean.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hospitality and human decency? And are we supposed to bake
them a pie? Are always supposed to always supposed to
whip up some mashed potatoes and mac and cheese for them?
What does that mean? Hospitality and human decency?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now, something else that came out is that Governor Brown
announced that there's going to be three Indiana state agencies
that have applied for immigration and enforcement powers. This under
section twenty eight seven.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
G Oh, you remember twenty eight to seven.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, and that old nutt. It's part of the Immigration
and Nationality Act. And it will be the Indiana State Police.
They've applied for Task Force Model. You've also got Indiana's
Department of Homeland Security and the Indiana Department of Corrections.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Now now Nikki Kelly, our friend from the Capitol Chronicle,
and we'll get into this with her tomorrow a little
bit when she joins us or scheduled to join us.
Raise some questions about the capacity of this place, and
she got some sort of clarification, but then she said,
I have more questions about that. So one would assume,
although it's the government, so you can never take anything
for granted, they are a factored in whether this place
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has the ability to house this many extra people. But
my question then becomes, if we have that much ability
to house that many extra people, why did we create
all these criminal reform laws that put all these people
back on the county's responsibility because we said we didn't
have enough room in our prisons to house them, and
then the county had to take care all these people
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without proper funding in many cases from the state to
take care of these legal criminals that are running around
in society. So I have a bunch of questions about that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So Governor Brown stated that Indiana is not a safe
haven for illegal immigration. But there was a report that
came out that said we are now dealing with net
negative net migration to the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
How about net migration any United States.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Get this, it's down.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It's going to be down, at least sixty percent. We
may be dealing with, get this, negative net migration to
the United States in twenty twenty five. That would be
the first time there is negative net migration in this
country and at least fifty years. We're talking about down
from two point eight million in twenty twenty four. So
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Donald Trump ran has always run on tariffs and he's
running a hawkish line on immigration, and on both of
those issues, we are seeing record high time rates for
this century, going all the way back, well back into
the early part of the twentieth century. And when it
comes to immigration net migration, we are seeing record low levels,
way down from.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Where we were during the Abiden administration.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
We are potentially looking at negative net migration for the
first time and at least fifty years.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, great, let's take the uh, let's take the tariff
stuff out of the equation. Let's just talk about what
he's talking about with migration. Well, I've said this on
this program for a long time that while we certainly
need to focus on illegal immigrants and getting those people
out of the country who have broken our laws, a
major issue that has rapidly changed our society, not for
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the better, is the quote unquote legal immigration. The people
they have allowed on these worker permits, people they've allowed,
the asylum seekers. When you look at and we talk
about this a lot, when you go to your Walmart
in central Indiana, if you live in central Indiana and
you go that Walmart, there is a strong chance that
Walmart looks a lot a lot different than it did
ten or certainly fifteen years ago. And the reason for
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that is not because it's overflooded with illegal immigrants running around.
It's because of these people they have allowed in the country,
and many of these people have not invested in assimilation
to their societies. And the reason, a major reason you
have seen explosive, irresponsible growth, oftentimes irresponsible growth in these
suburban communities is to house people who have been here
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on these worker or asylum or whatever permits, who have
gone out of their way to not assimilate into American society.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, now, speaking of those permits, it was announced yesterday
Donald Trump said that he now wants to charge people
I believe it was fifteen thousand to retain those visas
so that they could stay here.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, but you're not gonna un You can't undo the thing. Now,
that's part of the problem is you've created a society
that now functions with and around these people, and it's
by design. Do not kid yourself. It was not accidental
that all of this happened. And so even if let's
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say you kick all the people out, well, okay, but
the growth has already happened, the change has already happened.
Society has already started functioning in and around the rules
of needing these these types of workers, these types of
people making a certain living or wage expectation. And so
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I don't know how you put the genie back in
the bottle. You have to cut it off, but they're
not going to cut it off because of the money
that flows from these foreign countries or from these people
who are from foreign countries into the pockets of politicians,
the donations, et ceter from these businesses that are dependent
upon people coming in from these foreign countries that go
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to these politicians. You're not going to cut that off because,
as we've seen in the state of Indiana, why will
nobody do anything about Diego Morales, Why will nobody touch
Diego Morales? It ain't like Rokeita doesn't know what Diego is.
York Shows he fired the guy almost twenty years ago
for back you complete a combative of food.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But now he's endorsed him.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And giving him five grand. Why because a bunch of
the money that touches Diego also touches Rokeita. Why won't
Braun do anything about it? So you you think Braun
don't know what Diego is? Absolutely, and this is why
Diego behaves in the arrogant, flagrant way in which he
does and flaunts it at people, because he knows so
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much money that touches him touches these other people, and
they ain't gonna do a damn thing about it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, Now Ice is hiring. They have a fifty thousand
dollars signing bonus, sixty thousand dollars student loan repayment, and
they say a twenty five percent premium pay. So far
as seventy eight thousand Americans have applied to become ICE agents,
and the latest one is a actor, Dean Kane.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Hey, everybody, Dean Kaine here.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
And for those who don't know, I am a sworn
law enforcement officer as well as being a film maker.
I felt it was important to join with our first
responders to help secure the safety of all Americans, not
just talk about it. So I joined up, And here's
your opportunity to join ICE.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You can earn lots of great.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Benefits and pay.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Since President Trump took office, ICE has arrested hundreds of
thousands of criminals, including terrorists, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, MS thirteen,
gang members, drug traffickers, you name it, very dangerous people
who are no longer on the streets. You can defend
your homeland and get great benefits like a fifty thousand
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dollars signing bonus.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Think okay, so is this all part of the one
big beautiful bill and the border money? Is that where
they're getting this from.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm blown away. The Superman is an ICE agent?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like is he a legit one or like, Hey, I'm
the honorary spokesman, right, Am I going to head to
the southern border? Am I going to see Dean Caine
taking people down with this superman cape on? Is that
what I'm supposed to believe is happening here?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yes, that's what you're supposed to believe.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Huh. Well that does what's what? What's my benefits? What
am I getting the pay?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
What am I getting?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It was it was a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus.
You don't have the student loans.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Though, Yeah, that's no benefit to me. That is nothing
for me.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And they say twenty five percent premium pay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But like, I mean, what are you make? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Is that fifty twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Five percent premium pay signing bonus?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah? But I'm saying, like, what's the base pay? Let's
google this, let's look up. Isn't it about how did
you guys do radio before the internet? How much does
an ice agent make? Here we go? Are you ready to?
AI tells me, a, oh, this is a broad range
forty eight three hundred and seventy one to one hundred
and sixty seven six hundred and three annually. Now, if
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you told me Rob there's one hundred and sixty seven
thousand dollars and a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, I'm
intrigued in that. But if you tell me there's forty
eight thousand, I'm not doing that. Even with the fifty
thousand dollars signing bone signed enough I'm gonna need the
one sixty seven six to oh three annually plus the
fifty grands skills are here it is they break it
down here. Boy, the Internet's amazing, isn't it. Entry level
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is forty eight three seventy one. That's got to be that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That would be you.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, so that's only ninety I'd be taking a pay
cut even with the with the with the bonus. Mid
level GS nine to GS twelve. You got family in
the government. You probably know what that is. That's sixty
three one forty eight, Senior level GS thirteen that's seventy
seven two ten, and top earners GS fifteen. Yeah, how
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do I get to be a GS fifteen? Case I
believe that day has already dankin a GS fifteen.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Dean Kin could do it for free. He does needs.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Sixty seven six, so three I need to know how
to be a GS fifteen. I'm in.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Probably if you're already an officer and that's already passed
you by, I.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Could be a celebrity spokesperson like Dan Kine.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's true. You could, at least for Indiana. It is
Kendelly Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh what did the YouTube chat watch program on YouTube?
By the way, it's Kenelly Casey show prom that's Casey.
I tried to apply to ICE. There's a thirty seven
year old limit. Yeah, you knew that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, most of the time there is with any sort
of military. Is ICE military? That's why I said your
day is over. You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You said a military. It's a government entity.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well it's homeland security.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Immigration, Customs Enforcement. You're not in a military uniform walking around.
You're a government employee, right, I mean, I wouldn't think
of that as military. Okay, Well, look, if they don't
want me, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think you're still too old.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dean Kine is older than How did Dean Kane pull
it off? Then? See, now we're pulling on his story.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I believe he was already in it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He has not been. How old is Dean Kain, Casey,
Let's look it up. What do I say? Dean Kane
is sixty years old?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
What do you say, settled? I'm going to say fifty two?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, keV, what do you say?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I already looked at the age.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh you're out, Okay, all right, Dean Kane is fifty
nine years old. Wow, you would have still won on
the price is right because I would have gone over. Yeah,
but he's fifty nine, so on less. Twenty two years
ago he was being Superman and Ice at the same
damn time. He somehow figured out how to.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Make it work. He's a spokesperson, like you said.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Fun see that I could get in on that. I'm
Rob Kendall for ICE. Are you tired of illegal immigrants
taking over your community? You can do something about it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That was really good.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I just made that up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I know. Look how talented you are.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Let me try again. Hello, this is Rob Kendall from
the number one rated Kendall in Casey Show. Are you
tired of people who's snuck into this country taking your jobs?
Get off your ass and do something about it. ICE
wants you with the fifty grand hiring bonus, college tuition
payments and a whole bunch more. And by the way,
you'll be helping your fellow man.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You know, I'm going to poke a hole in this idea.
I think it's great. You would be brilliant at it.
I like the edit that you've added. By the way,
which edit you included me in it? And the number
one Kennel in case.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right, it's our show, right, even though you're being very
difficult right now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I feel like Governor Brawn might have the approval of
this or not.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
He doesn't run the federal government.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, but I think that they would ask him and
he would say no.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
They would look at our numbers. You know how endorsements work.
They're not going to go to that delusional, demented old
man and go like, hey, these guys have numbers that
they've never seen before in the middays. What do you think, Grandpa,
That's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't think Christy Noaman would be asking him about it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What would he say? The numbers aren't real. They care
about people. It's like, see, this is the thing people
advertise here, not because they're running a soup kitchen, none
of the goodness of their heart. All these people that
advertise here are for profit businesses for the most part,
at the very least. They need be able to come
to whatever their thing is. And they do it not
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because they like us necessarily, but because people listen and
they respond to the advertisements. It results saying don't care
whether Brawn likes me or not. They got care? Can
I get people to get off their duffs and go
serve their country.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So, if you would like Rob Kendall to be a
spokesperson for you, call WIBC now and ask for the salesman.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There is a list of things I won't endorse because
I'm filthy rich now, so I can be very selected. Well,
I'm richer than you think.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I am good for you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But but for the most part, if you have a
reputable business in which you're not currently finding yourself at
odds with the federal government in some sort, nothing that
can incarcerate me or put me on a watch list,
I'll generally promote most products.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean that was a good off the cuff. You agree,
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, I'm really proud of you. You did something.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Hey, you speak of doing something. You did something that
I'm intrigued by.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Stayed up way too late last night is what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You did. There's a new Delphi documentary.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's on Hulu on Hulu, and you.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Watched the first two episodes of it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This is so ridiculous. It is so It's a three
part docu series. It's called Capturing Their Killer. The Girls
on High Bridge It features interviews with the girls family members,
both of their mothers and I believe grandparents, investigators, a
lot of different podcasters, and Alan's defense attorneys. It's also
the first time that Richard Allen's wife, Kathy Allen spoke
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about the girl's deaths and her husband's prosecution. So, as
I mentioned, it's a three parter, I got into two
and a half parts of it. I've got like just
a little bit left. I know that, Yes, I did.
I mean it was too late.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You have that little stamina. I had to go to
slo What do you mean it was too late? I
was falling as sleeper time.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't even want to tell you, no, no, I
want to know two am oh okay, eleven thirty. It
was like yeah, no, no, no. I started at late and
I just kept going and I finally was like I cannot,
So I'm going to finish it up today.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you have an opinion? Did he do it?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The thing that got me that made me think, yeah,
they got the right guy was the gun forensic.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh okay, so whatever evidence was associated with the firearm,
there's something with that, right I talked to it.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I felt like that was it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I took to a person who was very involved in Delphi.
This has been a few months ago, and this person
said the following things. And you know what, now that
we're friends with Doug, I'm going to try to get
Doug Carter to come on and see if he'll back
this up.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He was in the documentary. It wasn't him speaking to
the camera, but it was a bunch of news clips
from when it was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I l ask Doug about this because from us and others,
he got a lot of crap from people about the
investigation and everything. And he might, now that he's really
found a voice, going to come out and talk about
some of this and maybe, well, I don't know, but anyway,
I'm talking to a person who's very involved in the
Delphi stuff and they said they said two things. One,
the judge made a colossal mistake not allowing the camera,
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because all the public had to go on was the
reporting from the reporters who are somewhat doing it from memory.
Someone are doing from notes. They're picking things that are
most important to them, or that they're trying to get
a newscasts or whatever. And this person said, the judge
made a huge mistake not letting the not letting the
cameras in the courtroom. Oh, Doug, just he's listening right now.
He said he would get them on. Hi, Doug, We'll
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range that. That'd be fascinating to hear. We hear that.
But this person said that that was a big mistake
because the evidence, the actual evidence of the public saw it,
they felt was overwhelming. Yeah, and that the gun evidence
was the primo thing that if the public had seen
that in real time, it would have been a case closed.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah. That's the thing that got me because as I
was watching it, I went through just various stages of oh, no,
it wasn't Richard Allen, Oh, yes it was. It was
what was the other guy, ron Klain Keegan Klin, No,
the other guy owed the property? Yeah, okay, And then
for a while, oh no, I thought that's the guy
who did.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
They talk about the Keegan Clin guy.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They did, he's in part of it as well. And
but then when it came down to the forensics of
the gun, Yeah, that's where I said, that's that's what
I heard.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I heard the gun stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
More indisputable than anything else, And.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It was a huge mistake not to let the not
to let the cameras in the courtroom. Okay, our man
Doug has said he will come on and talk about this.
This will be fascinating because nobody probably knows his case
better than him, better than him.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, and let that up the thing. I love you
free Friday, Doug. He's texting you back.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You stop.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
This is my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You're not going to impede on my friends. You're not
poaching my friends.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm not trying to poach anything. Play out the show
for Fridday in advance. That's all.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You stay in your little corner of the world, and
I'll stay in mind, and we'll just meet in the
middle here when it comes time to do the show
each day.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Let's meet with the news next on ninety three WYBC, Hey,
I got an answer.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well that whole thirty seven you're talking about joining ice. Yeah,
So last segment, Casey and I got into a big
hayrube about she was doing the thing where like, hey,
I'm a woman, I'm so much smarter than you. Let
me tell you how it all works.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Please, and you were doing like I'm the man I'm
dismissive of her report.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well, I was just saying, like common sense is Dean
Kane at fifty nine years old is probably not out
busting guys in ice. And then we're trying to figure
out why somebody, somebody on the YouTube it said, Hey,
I wanted to be in ice, and then they told
me you had to be thirty seven. I guess that
person is aged out of thirty seven. I am old
enough now where I am ineligible for employment?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Correct, where's the time? That's what I've been telling you.
You can't do it, even if you wanted to.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Where. But like in my mind and in my behavior,
I'm still a very young person. In my mind and
in my behavior, I'm still twenty five years old. Yeah,
and that's part of my charm. Yeah, right, I bring.
I bring a very youthful view to a very adult stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Off Is that? Is that how you're laugh at my view?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay? So my old man, because he would know he's
a federal LA enforcement officer, he chimed in. Of course,
he waits till after the segment, so I look like
a dumb ass. And then he this is what my
dad does. He allows me to go on. And this
is true in our life and our conversations at home.
It's everywhere he'll let me go on and.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Then he'll you're out there publicly say he'll.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Calmly then tell me what I meant. And he's like, uh,
it always says, oh you know, oh you know, by
the way, yeah, you know. The reason it's thirty seven
is you got to retire by fifty seven for the
hazardous duty stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I was like, well, that would have been helpful.
You know, I'm a phone right here. He could have
said that was going You want him to call the
hot line?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
You know, yeah, give your dad. Does your dad have
a I'm not giving him anything. No, I'm going to
give it to him. You know how much he him
tell me the hotline phone? Yes, stop, So I'm going
to give it to Rob. The point is that he
can call any time he wants to correct.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's thirty seven, Casey, it's thirty seven. You gotta be
done by fifty seven to get your twenty years twenty
years in federal retire Yeah, so what I can't serve.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My country, not in that capacity. You're serving it in
another way.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's kind of bull cramp because I bet if there
was some world war, they wouldn't be like, well, Rob's forty,
he's too old a service country. They ship me right
to the front line somewhere when it comes to cashing
in as an.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Ice guy, Yeah, can't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I do think that endorsement thing is right up
my alley.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Huge supporter of the mission, true believer, great ratings, high
level of engaged audience. Yeah, perfect. I'd be great.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You you would, you'd be great. Did you hear about
this partnership Google and I and M did? It's Indiana
Michigan power?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No do I It doesn't sound like I want to know. Okay,
So here's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's for a four waying data center.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Of course it is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's going to help I and M provide reliable and
affordable power by allowing Google to shift electricity usage during
high grid stress times.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
What the hell do you just say?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Means they're going to be able to change how much
power they're sucking.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Google is going to be able to tell the data
center they can't use as much power, or they're going
to be able to take power from other people that
they're using.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Google will tell Indiana Michigan power. You know, Okay, we'll
use less right now if there's stress on the grid.
But okay, but like Google can adjust its electricity consumption
based on real time grid demands.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, but are they going to take power from everybody
else too? Like or is it just Google who's we're
willing to go down? Because I got a feeling no, no,
And I'm not blaming you. I know you're just reporting
the news. But I got a feeling that this ain't
gonna end up with just Google, because does Google strike
you as the sort of company it's like, we'll just
do more with less. Just Google one of the largest,
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most And Kevin knows I'm right because he's smiling over there,
And that's what I know. Kevin is engaged. He has
a smile on his face because ninety percent of the
time Kevin is a lifeless, blankless stare and it is like,
just get me away from these people. But there he
had the smile, which means he knows I'm right, which
is Google. Google is not going to be like, yeah,
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it's fine, we'll just do it less. It'll be great
everybody everybody else. Ten years from now, we'll be hearing
how everybody else is doing with less. Doesn't that sound
what this sounds like to you?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So you're not trusting Google to adjust their electricity consumption
their needs.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know what I trust based.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On the grid demand.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Trust.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, we promise we'll turn it down, We'll use less.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I trust Google to tell me how old Dean Kaine is.
That's what I trust Google for. And they did that
very well. That's great. I do not trust them to
do with less so that other people can continue not suffer.
I think they would make me suffer in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Do you think that they will be transparent about their
energy needs? Not expecting that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I just like these data centers, we know so little
about them. The same thing with the artificial intelligence technology too.
And I think Indiana is just opening itself up to
a Pandora's box of hurt down the road in terms
of one the cost of obtaining basic necessity, which is power,
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and two the ability to even get it. I just
I think there we're going to look back on this
time and all these things are getting approved and it
may take twenty thirty forty years before the actual pain
is fully inflicted. But it seems like a very dystopian
existence we're setting up for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, now, speaking of power, let's talk about AES. You know,
they requested a thirteen point five percent rate increase for
homes that use at least one thousand kilowatts of power
per month, and the Regulatory Commission was going to decide
if they could do that. I believe today is the
day that they get word yeah on whether they can
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increase the rate.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Uh, this is going to be a thing now going forward.
It's going to be a never ending thing of these
rate increases because there simply is not enough technology with
all of these new things coming online, which Casey brings
me back to the question I keep asking. If all
the growth is not making things more affordable or the
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taxes lower for every day lifelong hoosiers, why are we
doing it. What's the point of the big building, What's
the point of the having the thing there, What's the
point of any extrapolated anything, housing developments whatever. If your
utilities keep going up and your taxes keep going up,
which is the reoccurring thing that we keep talking about,
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why are we doing any of it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, So there's a town hall tonight the Citizens' Action
Coalition offering people a chance to sound off about the
rates from AES. What tonight at six thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Where's it at.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's at nineteen fifteen West eighteenth Street, six thirty tonight.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Uh okay, we have breaking news in the YouTube chat now.
Very this person, Michael wrote in the YouTube chat, Pam
Bondy waved the age requirements for ICE on Fox this morning?
And can she do that? Can she just go on
a television show and waive that? So you are good?
So now the offer is back on the table.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Dean Kane is back in.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
They were very concerned Dean Kane and the aged out
of ICE. I am, I am, I am strongly considering
being in for the one sixty seven whatever plus the
fifty thousand dollars bonus.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's the only way you're gonna do you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
No, look, I would be taking a pay cut at
the low level. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing
a neutral shift either.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I wonder if you like, what's do you just sign up?
I'm sure I know there's a vetting process, clearly, but
is it like an interview process, like what kind of
skills are you bringing to the table? Rob Cat?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Well, here's here's what I bring to the table. I'm smart,
quick on my feet, I am a law abiding citizen.
No felonious actions in my past. I've paid all of
my taxes every single year. I've held a stable job,
both as a business owner and then working here for
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the past nine years. I mean I bring a lot.
This will shock people with the statement, but I do
bring a lot of stability to whatever position I'm entering.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, you know, they probably do have many positions available,
right Like, they may need you to have a desk job.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And I'm fine for the one sixty seven whatever. I
don't really care what it is. I mean, you probably
don't want me. I can use a weapon. I've used
a firearm. I have one in my home. I would
feel comfortable using it if my life or my family's
life were threatened, no questions asked. But I'm not sure
you would want me as the guy on the front line.
Although you know the Ustatos during the war, where those
(29:32):
guys do entertain the troops. I would be the perfect
guy to be out there motivating those people on the
front line. Hey, you sing, d you guys know, But
I'm I'm just do you know almost of those people
have the same political views as we do. I just
entertain them. We could That's what we could do. You
and I could take this radio show on the road
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to entertain the ice agents would be like the modern
day Bob Hope.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Right there, you go get a stage.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, what do you think one sixty seven whatever plus
the fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, do you get hazard pay?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Like? Is there a new sort of hazard pay level?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I would accept whatever they need me to do. I
would take this radio show to whatever border town you
need it in for the one sixty seven whatever plus
the fifty thousand dollars signing on was So, what are
they They're like two hundred and twenty thousand dollars and
I will go entertain the masses. That's a drop in
the bucket. What do you think they're paying, Dean Kine,
Who do.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You think is going to pay for that though your
salary to go entertain?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, the taxpayers auld be paying it, Fred I would
thank them every day.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You're okay with that?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I would give them their money's worth. Okay, you would
get immense value. I would do the entertainment of nine people.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Abduels can't join us.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Nut, We're going to talk about he's got some later
latest rumor gossip innuendo on what's going on with this
this AI porn story. Okay, and so he will fill
us in on the latest on that has crossed his desk.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
All right, you're listening to Kenvill and Casey. It is
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well, we're still trying to get to the bottle of
what's going on with these allegations of a I porn
being viewed in the Lieutenant Governor's office and who knew
what and when? And so let's bring in a guy
who well, he a big portion of his life is
how do you describe it? Rumor gossiping in the window.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That's that's half my job.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
The other half of my job is to find out
things that most people don't want, don't want to be
made public.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Duel keeps Shabaz, you know him as the owner operator
of indiepolitics dot org.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Hello, just back from Michigan. Had a nice, relaxing, peaceful,
peaceful trip. My wife was happy, comic books, no relaxation,
and then I come back here.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah. Look, obviously there's a whole bunch of stuff going
on right now. You've got the stuff with the redistricting,
which you know, as we've said, this is ridiculous just
a bevy of things going on right now. But I
think one of the big stories, and I think it
is gaining traction, is what exactly took place in the
Lieutenant Governor's office related to this artificial intelligence pornography allegedly
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being viewed shared of Craig Haggard's wife. You have been
doing some digging, as of others, and there is now
what a big rumor going around that they're the Marin
County Prosecutor's office may be looking into more than just this.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Yeah, I've been told by very reliable sources. And by
the way, this will all be in this weekend's cheat cheek.
By the way, so shameless plug.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
If yes, and if you want to get all the information,
you can get that subscription overt Indie politics dot org.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
What I've been told is that they're sort of simultaneous
state investigations going on and also very likely federal investigations
going on, because number one, on the state level, you've
got possible claims of retaliation, uh you know, where somebody
you know sharing pornographic you know, material which sort of
similar to the parent similar which, by the way, is
also interesting because it was I want to say it
(33:12):
was Mike Braun's wife, who was a big uh who
was who was sort of let the charge on, you know,
sharing internet porn and sucking revenge porn and that whole
category is stuff. So I think it would be ironic
that if someone is actually arrested in charge at the
federal level, it's because of technically because of Mike Braun's wife,
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who is tied to Manca Beckwe who's tied to the knuckleheads.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Who is it? I guess it's it's like a three
dimensional Marvel felt.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But there are rumors out there. Correct me if I'm
wrong that you've heard that there were already some sort
of investigation going on into something like because people are like,
how did the marrying Kundy prosecutors offusly show? Because Haggard
has said it, Craig Haggard Labianco reported it time cards. Well, okay,
you just uh go on time cards, That's all I'll say. Okay,
(34:03):
very good. So I so you that is what you
had heard, is that there was a there is it
was is whatever some sort of investigation was already going on,
potentially into the Lieutenant.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Govern evolve involving I was told it was involves time
cards and employment.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Okay, so you have a guy named Casper, you f.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You have governed Indiana politics and government for twenty years.
We got into this Jim Merit with Jim Merritt earlier.
Have you ever heard of a story like this or
is there any story that you've covered in the past
twenty years that you would say that's on the level
of weird of the allegations in the story. So that's
what they are right now, there's simply allegations, but it's
it is bizarre.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Every every and I should have known something like this
was abound to happen because every time I leave and
go on vacation, I can't leave for for a few days,
something stupid always happens. For example, I was in Chicago
on vacation with my parents years ago and then the
whole Phil Hinkle sex scandal stuff broke out. Another time,
it was like the riffra thing that all happened. So
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it's like, apparently, whenever I leave town, something stupid happens,
and usually it has very the clatteral damage is really
huge and really big, and this has the potentially have
some major clateral damage and all political sectors right now.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
One of the issues at play here is there's the
thing itself, right, like, did this happen? Did these guys
who who are alleged to have done this? By the way,
real quick, I do want to branch off, and we
got into this with Jim Marrit a little bit. Tom
Labianco is a known quantity around here, the guy who
broke the story because it wrote for Star for years.
Guys like that, and we talked about this in State
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how's happenings? Don't know exactly what he's got, don't know
what his sources are. Guys like that Usually though, if
you think about it, like how people would write a
television series, they end with what's the season like, they
start with what's the end of the season going to be?
What's the big reveal? That you go everything led up
(35:56):
to this, and then they work their way backwards. Right.
It blows my mind that a guy like that would
name these people and would go down this this path
without some sort of thing in his pocket. At the
end when he's like, Okay, I've had enough of doing
these stories. Here's the big reveal. Doesn't mean he's doing
it that way, but just knowing this guy, and how
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these guys can operate that that would surprise me if
he didn't happen.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
And it is kind of like trying a case like, Okay,
what do we want the outcome to be guilty, not guilty,
liable not liable, mitigate damages not mitigate damages, and then
we sort of build from the outcome that we're trying
to get. Now, obviously you got to change as get
new information, no new evidence, no new testament of the
hoole nine yards by the end of the day. What
I can totally see Tom and knowing Tom for years
because we kind of sort of same approach.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What what what?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
What's the point of the story Now, let's start filling
in So like John a reverse blueprint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, and guys like that, they they have what they
want and they will get what they want out of it.
He's a freelance journalist, like I'm not. I'm not saying
anything that I don't think the public knows, which is
his job is to get as many people to read
his stuff because he is a four higher journalist as
he possibly can. He would not be out of the
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realm of possibility to think he wants to get seven
or eight stories out of this. He's not gonna put
it all out there in the beginning if he wants
to keep getting people to read.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
By the way, people like Tom and I, we're in
the reputation business. Our reputation is our coin of the realm,
you know, That's how we make a living based on
what we do. And why you would purposely do anything
to harmon a reputation makes absolutely no sense. So for
them to accuse Tom of no line. He's making all
this sub he's got incredibility. Why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Like, look what, let's be seriously, why would Tom go
through all the grief and hassle to do all the
research but I was sorry, that's not fundamentally true or
fundamentally right and open himself to a major lawsuit exactly
because he named the guys okay real quick on this.
The other thing that is now in play is like,
there's the story itself. Did this happen? Did these guys
share this thing? It's obviously State Rep's wife. That makes
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it another layer to it. But Micah has made definitive statements.
He's made definitive statements. His office investigated it, He's made
definitive statements these guys didn't do this that I think
he said he didn't know about it. That's the other
side of it. Now, if any of that stuff gets disproven,
that is as big or a bigger story than whether
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the guys did it or not, because he's made definitive statements.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
And I think the thing to remember about those definitive
statements is it's the old joke. It's never the crime,
it's the law. You've said that for years. It's the
cover up. It's a cover up. And so if I
can prove that he was a liar in this one,
you're on her. Then guess what. We're going to peach
his whole testimony because I can't believe anything he says. Yeah,
and again we always want to preface this. As Craig Haggard,
I believe said in the Indiest article today, nobody has
(38:45):
actually seen this video publicly saying they've seen the video
yet that we're aware of. And everybody's innocent until proven guilty,
and will just see what happens. But I'll wait to
read my cheat sheet this weekend.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
It's like it's like the blueprints of the Death Star.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
If Bill gives you boss, thank you, thank you, yeah,
all right, it's gonna do it for us today. Great job, Casey,
Thank you, Kevin, and most importantly, thank you to you,
the listener. Without you, there is no US Kennell and
Casey Show Natty three WIBC
All right, So how do we feel about all the
illegal immigrants coming to the state of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Are you talking about coming here to be detained or
are you talking about just coming here to hang out?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, they're coming. The big announcement came out yesterday that
the state of Indiana is now going to house a
whole bunch. They're going to recreate what do they calling it,
the Speedway Slammer. This is the new what was the
thing in Florida that they.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Called it Alligator Alcatraz?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Alligator Alcatraz, And they're creating these locations because the obviously
the Trump administration is doing their best to round up
as many of these illegal immigrants as they possibly can,
and the ones that they don't want out in decent society.
They gotta have some place to put these people. And
now apparently the State of Indiana has struck some sort
of deal with the Trump administration to house many of
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these people.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it's going to be at the Miami Correctional Facility.
It's being branded as Speedway Slammer. DHS says that it
will expand capacity by a thousand beds and it will
house some of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Which that's I mean, what you'd think the people they're
trying to that they're trying to house. By the way,
you've ever been to Bunker Hill, Indiana, which is where
the Miami Correctional Facility is located at.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So maybe we should take a tour sometime. Let's see
how far is it from here? They say it's only
an hour and fourteen minutes from here, so not really
close to the speedway, no, I think. Yeah, it's almost
as though they didn't know. Now, Andrew Ireland, our friend
friend of the show, had been lobbing for Cornfield Clink
to be the name. State Representative. Andrew Ireland was very
passionate about it being called the Cornfield Clink. However, they
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apparently have decided on Speedway Slammer as the nickname.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
There's other names they could have gone with. Miami Detained. Yeah,
all we got to do is get a holding center.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All we got to do is get on thirty one. Now,
Miami used to be Peru Indiana. Peru Indiana used to
be the home of the circus or the famous circus
in Peru Indiana. But anyway, Ice House, India and everybody, everybody,
here's the thing. Everybody's got to do their part for this.
(02:15):
And it's easy to say, well, we got to get
these people off the street, we got to get them
out of decent society, and part of that is that
everybody's got to do their own sacrifice in their own way.
And if the State of Indiana can help facilitate this
in a highly secure environment, in a place that appears
to be an hour and fourteen minutes from me, that
(02:36):
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You're okay with that. You've got a question who's paying
for this? Will the state be paying for it or
the federal government? So Governor Brawn came out and he
said that Indiana is taking a comprehensive and collaborative approach
to combating illegal immigration and will continue to lead the
way among the states.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What does that mean. That doesn't say he's paying for it? Now,
this is like, if the State of Indiana has to
pay for this, I ain't down with that, because this
is a federal issue. They need to be paying for it.
But I'm fine with using the State of Indiana's resources
in order to house I mean, the federal guvern's going
to have to be all the people you have to
bring in create Indians not doing that, they would have
to be paying for that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Not everybody's happy about it. Representative Ed Delaney not a
fan of the idea on a.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Corn version of the alligator Alcatraz, and I hope the
governor will be insistent that our normal Indiana high standards
of hospitality and human decency.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, so they stop hospitality and human decency. They're potentially
highly dangerous illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What do you mean.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hospitality and human decency? And are we supposed to bake
them a pie? Are always supposed to always supposed to
whip up some mashed potatoes and mac and cheese for them?
What does that mean? Hospitality and human decency?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now, something else that came out is that Governor Brown
announced that there's going to be three Indiana state agencies
that have applied for immigration and enforcement powers. This under
section twenty eight seven.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
G Oh, you remember twenty eight to seven.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, and that old nutt. It's part of the Immigration
and Nationality Act. And it will be the Indiana State Police.
They've applied for Task Force Model. You've also got Indiana's
Department of Homeland Security and the Indiana Department of Corrections.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Now now Nikki Kelly, our friend from the Capitol Chronicle,
and we'll get into this with her tomorrow a little
bit when she joins us or scheduled to join us.
Raise some questions about the capacity of this place, and
she got some sort of clarification, but then she said,
I have more questions about that. So one would assume,
although it's the government, so you can never take anything
for granted, they are a factored in whether this place
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has the ability to house this many extra people. But
my question then becomes, if we have that much ability
to house that many extra people, why did we create
all these criminal reform laws that put all these people
back on the county's responsibility because we said we didn't
have enough room in our prisons to house them, and
then the county had to take care all these people
(05:05):
without proper funding in many cases from the state to
take care of these legal criminals that are running around
in society. So I have a bunch of questions about that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So Governor Brown stated that Indiana is not a safe
haven for illegal immigration. But there was a report that
came out that said we are now dealing with net
negative net migration to the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
How about net migration any United States.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Get this, it's down.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It's going to be down, at least sixty percent. We
may be dealing with, get this, negative net migration to
the United States in twenty twenty five. That would be
the first time there is negative net migration in this
country and at least fifty years. We're talking about down
from two point eight million in twenty twenty four. So
(05:52):
Donald Trump ran has always run on tariffs and he's
running a hawkish line on immigration, and on both of
those issues, we are seeing record high time rates for
this century, going all the way back, well back into
the early part of the twentieth century. And when it
comes to immigration net migration, we are seeing record low levels,
way down from.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Where we were during the Abiden administration.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
We are potentially looking at negative net migration for the
first time and at least fifty years.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, great, let's take the uh, let's take the tariff
stuff out of the equation. Let's just talk about what
he's talking about with migration. Well, I've said this on
this program for a long time that while we certainly
need to focus on illegal immigrants and getting those people
out of the country who have broken our laws, a
major issue that has rapidly changed our society, not for
(06:42):
the better, is the quote unquote legal immigration. The people
they have allowed on these worker permits, people they've allowed,
the asylum seekers. When you look at and we talk
about this a lot, when you go to your Walmart
in central Indiana, if you live in central Indiana and
you go that Walmart, there is a strong chance that
Walmart looks a lot a lot different than it did
ten or certainly fifteen years ago. And the reason for
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that is not because it's overflooded with illegal immigrants running around.
It's because of these people they have allowed in the country,
and many of these people have not invested in assimilation
to their societies. And the reason, a major reason you
have seen explosive, irresponsible growth, oftentimes irresponsible growth in these
suburban communities is to house people who have been here
(07:26):
on these worker or asylum or whatever permits, who have
gone out of their way to not assimilate into American society.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, now, speaking of those permits, it was announced yesterday
Donald Trump said that he now wants to charge people
I believe it was fifteen thousand to retain those visas
so that they could stay here.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, but you're not gonna un You can't undo the thing. Now,
that's part of the problem is you've created a society
that now functions with and around these people, and it's
by design. Do not kid yourself. It was not accidental
that all of this happened. And so even if let's
(08:05):
say you kick all the people out, well, okay, but
the growth has already happened, the change has already happened.
Society has already started functioning in and around the rules
of needing these these types of workers, these types of
people making a certain living or wage expectation. And so
(08:27):
I don't know how you put the genie back in
the bottle. You have to cut it off, but they're
not going to cut it off because of the money
that flows from these foreign countries or from these people
who are from foreign countries into the pockets of politicians,
the donations, et ceter from these businesses that are dependent
upon people coming in from these foreign countries that go
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to these politicians. You're not going to cut that off because,
as we've seen in the state of Indiana, why will
nobody do anything about Diego Morales, Why will nobody touch
Diego Morales? It ain't like Rokeita doesn't know what Diego is.
York Shows he fired the guy almost twenty years ago
for back you complete a combative of food.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But now he's endorsed him.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And giving him five grand. Why because a bunch of
the money that touches Diego also touches Rokeita. Why won't
Braun do anything about it? So you you think Braun
don't know what Diego is? Absolutely, and this is why
Diego behaves in the arrogant, flagrant way in which he
does and flaunts it at people, because he knows so
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much money that touches him touches these other people, and
they ain't gonna do a damn thing about it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, Now Ice is hiring. They have a fifty thousand
dollars signing bonus, sixty thousand dollars student loan repayment, and
they say a twenty five percent premium pay. So far
as seventy eight thousand Americans have applied to become ICE agents,
and the latest one is a actor, Dean Kane.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Hey, everybody, Dean Kaine here.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
And for those who don't know, I am a sworn
law enforcement officer as well as being a film maker.
I felt it was important to join with our first
responders to help secure the safety of all Americans, not
just talk about it. So I joined up, And here's
your opportunity to join ICE.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You can earn lots of great.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Benefits and pay.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Since President Trump took office, ICE has arrested hundreds of
thousands of criminals, including terrorists, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, MS thirteen,
gang members, drug traffickers, you name it, very dangerous people
who are no longer on the streets. You can defend
your homeland and get great benefits like a fifty thousand
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dollars signing bonus.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Think okay, so is this all part of the one
big beautiful bill and the border money? Is that where
they're getting this from.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm blown away. The Superman is an ICE agent?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like is he a legit one or like, Hey, I'm
the honorary spokesman, right, Am I going to head to
the southern border? Am I going to see Dean Caine
taking people down with this superman cape on? Is that
what I'm supposed to believe is happening here?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yes, that's what you're supposed to believe.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Huh. Well that does what's what? What's my benefits? What
am I getting the pay?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
What am I getting?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It was it was a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus.
You don't have the student loans.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Though, Yeah, that's no benefit to me. That is nothing
for me.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And they say twenty five percent premium pay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But like, I mean, what are you make? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Is that fifty twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Five percent premium pay signing bonus?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah? But I'm saying, like, what's the base pay? Let's
google this, let's look up. Isn't it about how did
you guys do radio before the internet? How much does
an ice agent make? Here we go? Are you ready to?
AI tells me, a, oh, this is a broad range
forty eight three hundred and seventy one to one hundred
and sixty seven six hundred and three annually. Now, if
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you told me Rob there's one hundred and sixty seven
thousand dollars and a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, I'm
intrigued in that. But if you tell me there's forty
eight thousand, I'm not doing that. Even with the fifty
thousand dollars signing bone signed enough I'm gonna need the
one sixty seven six to oh three annually plus the
fifty grands skills are here it is they break it
down here. Boy, the Internet's amazing, isn't it. Entry level
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is forty eight three seventy one. That's got to be that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That would be you.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, so that's only ninety I'd be taking a pay
cut even with the with the with the bonus. Mid
level GS nine to GS twelve. You got family in
the government. You probably know what that is. That's sixty
three one forty eight, Senior level GS thirteen that's seventy
seven two ten, and top earners GS fifteen. Yeah, how
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do I get to be a GS fifteen? Case I
believe that day has already dankin a GS fifteen.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Dean Kin could do it for free. He does needs.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Sixty seven six, so three I need to know how
to be a GS fifteen. I'm in.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Probably if you're already an officer and that's already passed
you by, I.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Could be a celebrity spokesperson like Dan Kine.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's true. You could, at least for Indiana. It is
Kendelly Casey. It's ninety three wibc.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh what did the YouTube chat watch program on YouTube?
By the way, it's Kenelly Casey show prom that's Casey.
I tried to apply to ICE. There's a thirty seven
year old limit. Yeah, you knew that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, most of the time there is with any sort
of military. Is ICE military? That's why I said your
day is over. You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You said a military. It's a government entity.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well it's homeland security.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Immigration, Customs Enforcement. You're not in a military uniform walking around.
You're a government employee, right, I mean, I wouldn't think
of that as military. Okay, Well, look, if they don't
want me, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think you're still too old.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dean Kine is older than How did Dean Kane pull
it off? Then? See, now we're pulling on his story.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I believe he was already in it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He has not been. How old is Dean Kain, Casey,
Let's look it up. What do I say? Dean Kane
is sixty years old?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
What do you say, settled? I'm going to say fifty two?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, keV, what do you say?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I already looked at the age.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh you're out, Okay, all right, Dean Kane is fifty
nine years old. Wow, you would have still won on
the price is right because I would have gone over. Yeah,
but he's fifty nine, so on less. Twenty two years
ago he was being Superman and Ice at the same
damn time. He somehow figured out how to.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Make it work. He's a spokesperson, like you said.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Fun see that I could get in on that. I'm
Rob Kendall for ICE. Are you tired of illegal immigrants
taking over your community? You can do something about it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That was really good.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I just made that up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I know. Look how talented you are.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Let me try again. Hello, this is Rob Kendall from
the number one rated Kendall in Casey Show. Are you
tired of people who's snuck into this country taking your jobs?
Get off your ass and do something about it. ICE
wants you with the fifty grand hiring bonus, college tuition
payments and a whole bunch more. And by the way,
you'll be helping your fellow man.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You know, I'm going to poke a hole in this idea.
I think it's great. You would be brilliant at it.
I like the edit that you've added. By the way,
which edit you included me in it? And the number
one Kennel in case.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right, it's our show, right, even though you're being very
difficult right now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I feel like Governor Brawn might have the approval of
this or not.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
He doesn't run the federal government.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, but I think that they would ask him and
he would say no.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
They would look at our numbers. You know how endorsements work.
They're not going to go to that delusional, demented old
man and go like, hey, these guys have numbers that
they've never seen before in the middays. What do you think, Grandpa,
That's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't think Christy Noaman would be asking him about it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
What would he say? The numbers aren't real. They care
about people. It's like, see, this is the thing people
advertise here, not because they're running a soup kitchen, none
of the goodness of their heart. All these people that
advertise here are for profit businesses for the most part,
at the very least. They need be able to come
to whatever their thing is. And they do it not
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because they like us necessarily, but because people listen and
they respond to the advertisements. It results saying don't care
whether Brawn likes me or not. They got care? Can
I get people to get off their duffs and go
serve their country.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So, if you would like Rob Kendall to be a
spokesperson for you, call WIBC now and ask for the salesman.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There is a list of things I won't endorse because
I'm filthy rich now, so I can be very selected. Well,
I'm richer than you think.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I am good for you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But but for the most part, if you have a
reputable business in which you're not currently finding yourself at
odds with the federal government in some sort, nothing that
can incarcerate me or put me on a watch list,
I'll generally promote most products.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean that was a good off the cuff. You agree,
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, I'm really proud of you. You did something.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Hey, you speak of doing something. You did something that
I'm intrigued by.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Stayed up way too late last night is what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You did. There's a new Delphi documentary.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's on Hulu on Hulu, and you.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Watched the first two episodes of it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This is so ridiculous. It is so It's a three
part docu series. It's called Capturing Their Killer. The Girls
on High Bridge It features interviews with the girls family members,
both of their mothers and I believe grandparents, investigators, a
lot of different podcasters, and Alan's defense attorneys. It's also
the first time that Richard Allen's wife, Kathy Allen spoke
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about the girl's deaths and her husband's prosecution. So, as
I mentioned, it's a three parter, I got into two
and a half parts of it. I've got like just
a little bit left. I know that, Yes, I did.
I mean it was too late.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You have that little stamina. I had to go to
slo What do you mean it was too late? I
was falling as sleeper time.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't even want to tell you, no, no, I
want to know two am oh okay, eleven thirty. It
was like yeah, no, no, no. I started at late and
I just kept going and I finally was like I cannot,
So I'm going to finish it up today.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you have an opinion? Did he do it?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The thing that got me that made me think, yeah,
they got the right guy was the gun forensic.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh okay, so whatever evidence was associated with the firearm,
there's something with that, right I talked to it.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I felt like that was it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I took to a person who was very involved in Delphi.
This has been a few months ago, and this person
said the following things. And you know what, now that
we're friends with Doug, I'm going to try to get
Doug Carter to come on and see if he'll back
this up.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He was in the documentary. It wasn't him speaking to
the camera, but it was a bunch of news clips
from when it was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I l ask Doug about this because from us and others,
he got a lot of crap from people about the
investigation and everything. And he might, now that he's really
found a voice, going to come out and talk about
some of this and maybe, well, I don't know, but anyway,
I'm talking to a person who's very involved in the
Delphi stuff and they said they said two things. One,
the judge made a colossal mistake not allowing the camera,
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because all the public had to go on was the
reporting from the reporters who are somewhat doing it from memory.
Someone are doing from notes. They're picking things that are
most important to them, or that they're trying to get
a newscasts or whatever. And this person said, the judge
made a huge mistake not letting the not letting the
cameras in the courtroom. Oh, Doug, just he's listening right now.
He said he would get them on. Hi, Doug, We'll
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range that. That'd be fascinating to hear. We hear that.
But this person said that that was a big mistake
because the evidence, the actual evidence of the public saw it,
they felt was overwhelming. Yeah, and that the gun evidence
was the primo thing that if the public had seen
that in real time, it would have been a case closed.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah. That's the thing that got me because as I
was watching it, I went through just various stages of oh, no,
it wasn't Richard Allen, Oh, yes it was. It was
what was the other guy, ron Klain Keegan Klin, No,
the other guy owed the property? Yeah, okay, And then
for a while, oh no, I thought that's the guy
who did.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
They talk about the Keegan Clin guy.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They did, he's in part of it as well. And
but then when it came down to the forensics of
the gun, Yeah, that's where I said, that's that's what
I heard.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I heard the gun stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
More indisputable than anything else, And.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It was a huge mistake not to let the not
to let the cameras in the courtroom. Okay, our man
Doug has said he will come on and talk about this.
This will be fascinating because nobody probably knows his case
better than him, better than him.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, and let that up the thing. I love you
free Friday, Doug. He's texting you back.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You stop.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
This is my friend.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You're not going to impede on my friends. You're not
poaching my friends.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm not trying to poach anything. Play out the show
for Fridday in advance. That's all.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You stay in your little corner of the world, and
I'll stay in mind, and we'll just meet in the
middle here when it comes time to do the show
each day.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Let's meet with the news next on ninety three WYBC, Hey,
I got an answer.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well that whole thirty seven you're talking about joining ice. Yeah,
So last segment, Casey and I got into a big
hayrube about she was doing the thing where like, hey,
I'm a woman, I'm so much smarter than you. Let
me tell you how it all works.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Please, and you were doing like I'm the man I'm
dismissive of her report.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well, I was just saying, like common sense is Dean
Kane at fifty nine years old is probably not out
busting guys in ice. And then we're trying to figure
out why somebody, somebody on the YouTube it said, Hey,
I wanted to be in ice, and then they told
me you had to be thirty seven. I guess that
person is aged out of thirty seven. I am old
enough now where I am ineligible for employment?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Correct, where's the time? That's what I've been telling you.
You can't do it, even if you wanted to.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Where. But like in my mind and in my behavior,
I'm still a very young person. In my mind and
in my behavior, I'm still twenty five years old. Yeah,
and that's part of my charm. Yeah, right, I bring.
I bring a very youthful view to a very adult stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Off Is that? Is that how you're laugh at my view?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay? So my old man, because he would know he's
a federal LA enforcement officer, he chimed in. Of course,
he waits till after the segment, so I look like
a dumb ass. And then he this is what my
dad does. He allows me to go on. And this
is true in our life and our conversations at home.
It's everywhere he'll let me go on and.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Then he'll you're out there publicly say he'll.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Calmly then tell me what I meant. And he's like, uh,
it always says, oh you know, oh you know, by
the way, yeah, you know. The reason it's thirty seven
is you got to retire by fifty seven for the
hazardous duty stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I was like, well, that would have been helpful.
You know, I'm a phone right here. He could have
said that was going You want him to call the
hot line?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
You know, yeah, give your dad. Does your dad have
a I'm not giving him anything. No, I'm going to
give it to him. You know how much he him
tell me the hotline phone? Yes, stop, So I'm going
to give it to Rob. The point is that he
can call any time he wants to correct.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's thirty seven, Casey, it's thirty seven. You gotta be
done by fifty seven to get your twenty years twenty
years in federal retire Yeah, so what I can't serve.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My country, not in that capacity. You're serving it in
another way.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's kind of bull cramp because I bet if there
was some world war, they wouldn't be like, well, Rob's forty,
he's too old a service country. They ship me right
to the front line somewhere when it comes to cashing
in as an.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Ice guy, Yeah, can't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I do think that endorsement thing is right up
my alley.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Huge supporter of the mission, true believer, great ratings, high
level of engaged audience. Yeah, perfect. I'd be great.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You you would, you'd be great. Did you hear about
this partnership Google and I and M did? It's Indiana
Michigan power?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No do I It doesn't sound like I want to know. Okay,
So here's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's for a four waying data center.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Of course it is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's going to help I and M provide reliable and
affordable power by allowing Google to shift electricity usage during
high grid stress times.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
What the hell do you just say?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Means they're going to be able to change how much
power they're sucking.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Google is going to be able to tell the data
center they can't use as much power, or they're going
to be able to take power from other people that
they're using.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Google will tell Indiana Michigan power. You know, Okay, we'll
use less right now if there's stress on the grid.
But okay, but like Google can adjust its electricity consumption
based on real time grid demands.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, but are they going to take power from everybody
else too? Like or is it just Google who's we're
willing to go down? Because I got a feeling no, no,
And I'm not blaming you. I know you're just reporting
the news. But I got a feeling that this ain't
gonna end up with just Google, because does Google strike
you as the sort of company it's like, we'll just
do more with less. Just Google one of the largest,
(24:46):
most And Kevin knows I'm right because he's smiling over there,
And that's what I know. Kevin is engaged. He has
a smile on his face because ninety percent of the
time Kevin is a lifeless, blankless stare and it is like,
just get me away from these people. But there he
had the smile, which means he knows I'm right, which
is Google. Google is not going to be like, yeah,
(25:06):
it's fine, we'll just do it less. It'll be great
everybody everybody else. Ten years from now, we'll be hearing
how everybody else is doing with less. Doesn't that sound
what this sounds like to you?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So you're not trusting Google to adjust their electricity consumption
their needs.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know what I trust based.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On the grid demand.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Trust.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, we promise we'll turn it down, We'll use less.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I trust Google to tell me how old Dean Kaine is.
That's what I trust Google for. And they did that
very well. That's great. I do not trust them to
do with less so that other people can continue not suffer.
I think they would make me suffer in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Do you think that they will be transparent about their
energy needs? Not expecting that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I just like these data centers, we know so little
about them. The same thing with the artificial intelligence technology too.
And I think Indiana is just opening itself up to
a Pandora's box of hurt down the road in terms
of one the cost of obtaining basic necessity, which is power,
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and two the ability to even get it. I just
I think there we're going to look back on this
time and all these things are getting approved and it
may take twenty thirty forty years before the actual pain
is fully inflicted. But it seems like a very dystopian
existence we're setting up for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, now, speaking of power, let's talk about AES. You know,
they requested a thirteen point five percent rate increase for
homes that use at least one thousand kilowatts of power
per month, and the Regulatory Commission was going to decide
if they could do that. I believe today is the
day that they get word yeah on whether they can
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increase the rate.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Uh, this is going to be a thing now going forward.
It's going to be a never ending thing of these
rate increases because there simply is not enough technology with
all of these new things coming online, which Casey brings
me back to the question I keep asking. If all
the growth is not making things more affordable or the
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taxes lower for every day lifelong hoosiers, why are we
doing it. What's the point of the big building, What's
the point of the having the thing there, What's the
point of any extrapolated anything, housing developments whatever. If your
utilities keep going up and your taxes keep going up,
which is the reoccurring thing that we keep talking about,
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why are we doing any of it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, So there's a town hall tonight the Citizens' Action
Coalition offering people a chance to sound off about the
rates from AES. What tonight at six thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Where's it at.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's at nineteen fifteen West eighteenth Street, six thirty tonight.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Uh okay, we have breaking news in the YouTube chat now.
Very this person, Michael wrote in the YouTube chat, Pam
Bondy waved the age requirements for ICE on Fox this morning?
And can she do that? Can she just go on
a television show and waive that? So you are good?
So now the offer is back on the table.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Dean Kane is back in.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
They were very concerned Dean Kane and the aged out
of ICE. I am, I am, I am strongly considering
being in for the one sixty seven whatever plus the
fifty thousand dollars bonus.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's the only way you're gonna do you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
No, look, I would be taking a pay cut at
the low level. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing
a neutral shift either.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I wonder if you like, what's do you just sign up?
I'm sure I know there's a vetting process, clearly, but
is it like an interview process, like what kind of
skills are you bringing to the table? Rob Cat?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Well, here's here's what I bring to the table. I'm smart,
quick on my feet, I am a law abiding citizen.
No felonious actions in my past. I've paid all of
my taxes every single year. I've held a stable job,
both as a business owner and then working here for
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the past nine years. I mean I bring a lot.
This will shock people with the statement, but I do
bring a lot of stability to whatever position I'm entering.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, you know, they probably do have many positions available,
right Like, they may need you to have a desk job.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And I'm fine for the one sixty seven whatever. I
don't really care what it is. I mean, you probably
don't want me. I can use a weapon. I've used
a firearm. I have one in my home. I would
feel comfortable using it if my life or my family's
life were threatened, no questions asked. But I'm not sure
you would want me as the guy on the front line.
Although you know the Ustatos during the war, where those
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guys do entertain the troops. I would be the perfect
guy to be out there motivating those people on the
front line. Hey, you sing, d you guys know, But
I'm I'm just do you know almost of those people
have the same political views as we do. I just
entertain them. We could That's what we could do. You
and I could take this radio show on the road
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to entertain the ice agents would be like the modern
day Bob Hope.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Right there, you go get a stage.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, what do you think one sixty seven whatever plus
the fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, do you get hazard pay?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Like? Is there a new sort of hazard pay level?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I would accept whatever they need me to do. I
would take this radio show to whatever border town you
need it in for the one sixty seven whatever plus
the fifty thousand dollars signing on was So, what are
they They're like two hundred and twenty thousand dollars and
I will go entertain the masses. That's a drop in
the bucket. What do you think they're paying, Dean Kine,
Who do.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You think is going to pay for that though your
salary to go entertain?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, the taxpayers auld be paying it, Fred I would
thank them every day.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You're okay with that?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I would give them their money's worth. Okay, you would
get immense value. I would do the entertainment of nine people.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Abduels can't join us.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Nut, We're going to talk about he's got some later
latest rumor gossip innuendo on what's going on with this
this AI porn story. Okay, and so he will fill
us in on the latest on that has crossed his desk.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
All right, you're listening to Kenvill and Casey. It is
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well, we're still trying to get to the bottle of
what's going on with these allegations of a I porn
being viewed in the Lieutenant Governor's office and who knew
what and when? And so let's bring in a guy
who well, he a big portion of his life is
how do you describe it? Rumor gossiping in the window.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That's that's half my job.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
The other half of my job is to find out
things that most people don't want, don't want to be
made public.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Duel keeps Shabaz, you know him as the owner operator
of indiepolitics dot org.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Hello, just back from Michigan. Had a nice, relaxing, peaceful,
peaceful trip. My wife was happy, comic books, no relaxation,
and then I come back here.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah. Look, obviously there's a whole bunch of stuff going
on right now. You've got the stuff with the redistricting,
which you know, as we've said, this is ridiculous just
a bevy of things going on right now. But I
think one of the big stories, and I think it
is gaining traction, is what exactly took place in the
Lieutenant Governor's office related to this artificial intelligence pornography allegedly
(32:22):
being viewed shared of Craig Haggard's wife. You have been
doing some digging, as of others, and there is now
what a big rumor going around that they're the Marin
County Prosecutor's office may be looking into more than just this.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Yeah, I've been told by very reliable sources. And by
the way, this will all be in this weekend's cheat cheek.
By the way, so shameless plug.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
If yes, and if you want to get all the information,
you can get that subscription overt Indie politics dot org.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
What I've been told is that they're sort of simultaneous
state investigations going on and also very likely federal investigations
going on, because number one, on the state level, you've
got possible claims of retaliation, uh you know, where somebody
you know sharing pornographic you know, material which sort of
similar to the parent similar which, by the way, is
also interesting because it was I want to say it
(33:12):
was Mike Braun's wife, who was a big uh who
was who was sort of let the charge on, you know,
sharing internet porn and sucking revenge porn and that whole
category is stuff. So I think it would be ironic
that if someone is actually arrested in charge at the
federal level, it's because of technically because of Mike Braun's wife,
(33:33):
who is tied to Manca Beckwe who's tied to the knuckleheads.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Who is it? I guess it's it's like a three
dimensional Marvel felt.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But there are rumors out there. Correct me if I'm
wrong that you've heard that there were already some sort
of investigation going on into something like because people are like,
how did the marrying Kundy prosecutors offusly show? Because Haggard
has said it, Craig Haggard Labianco reported it time cards. Well, okay,
you just uh go on time cards, That's all I'll say. Okay,
(34:03):
very good. So I so you that is what you
had heard, is that there was a there is it
was is whatever some sort of investigation was already going on,
potentially into the Lieutenant.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Govern evolve involving I was told it was involves time
cards and employment.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Okay, so you have a guy named Casper, you f.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You have governed Indiana politics and government for twenty years.
We got into this Jim Merit with Jim Merritt earlier.
Have you ever heard of a story like this or
is there any story that you've covered in the past
twenty years that you would say that's on the level
of weird of the allegations in the story. So that's
what they are right now, there's simply allegations, but it's
it is bizarre.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Every every and I should have known something like this
was abound to happen because every time I leave and
go on vacation, I can't leave for for a few days,
something stupid always happens. For example, I was in Chicago
on vacation with my parents years ago and then the
whole Phil Hinkle sex scandal stuff broke out. Another time,
it was like the riffra thing that all happened. So
(35:04):
it's like, apparently, whenever I leave town, something stupid happens,
and usually it has very the clatteral damage is really
huge and really big, and this has the potentially have
some major clateral damage and all political sectors right now.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
One of the issues at play here is there's the
thing itself, right, like, did this happen? Did these guys
who who are alleged to have done this? By the way,
real quick, I do want to branch off, and we
got into this with Jim Marrit a little bit. Tom
Labianco is a known quantity around here, the guy who
broke the story because it wrote for Star for years.
Guys like that, and we talked about this in State
(35:36):
how's happenings? Don't know exactly what he's got, don't know
what his sources are. Guys like that Usually though, if
you think about it, like how people would write a
television series, they end with what's the season like, they
start with what's the end of the season going to be?
What's the big reveal? That you go everything led up
(35:56):
to this, and then they work their way backwards. Right.
It blows my mind that a guy like that would
name these people and would go down this this path
without some sort of thing in his pocket. At the
end when he's like, Okay, I've had enough of doing
these stories. Here's the big reveal. Doesn't mean he's doing
it that way, but just knowing this guy, and how
(36:18):
these guys can operate that that would surprise me if
he didn't happen.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
And it is kind of like trying a case like, Okay,
what do we want the outcome to be guilty, not guilty,
liable not liable, mitigate damages not mitigate damages, and then
we sort of build from the outcome that we're trying
to get. Now, obviously you got to change as get
new information, no new evidence, no new testament of the
hoole nine yards by the end of the day. What
I can totally see Tom and knowing Tom for years
because we kind of sort of same approach.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What what what?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
What's the point of the story Now, let's start filling
in So like John a reverse blueprint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, and guys like that, they they have what they
want and they will get what they want out of it.
He's a freelance journalist, like I'm not. I'm not saying
anything that I don't think the public knows, which is
his job is to get as many people to read
his stuff because he is a four higher journalist as
he possibly can. He would not be out of the
(37:08):
realm of possibility to think he wants to get seven
or eight stories out of this. He's not gonna put
it all out there in the beginning if he wants
to keep getting people to read.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
By the way, people like Tom and I, we're in
the reputation business. Our reputation is our coin of the realm,
you know, That's how we make a living based on
what we do. And why you would purposely do anything
to harmon a reputation makes absolutely no sense. So for
them to accuse Tom of no line. He's making all
this sub he's got incredibility. Why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Like, look what, let's be seriously, why would Tom go
through all the grief and hassle to do all the
research but I was sorry, that's not fundamentally true or
fundamentally right and open himself to a major lawsuit exactly
because he named the guys okay real quick on this.
The other thing that is now in play is like,
there's the story itself. Did this happen? Did these guys
share this thing? It's obviously State Rep's wife. That makes
(37:58):
it another layer to it. But Micah has made definitive statements.
He's made definitive statements. His office investigated it, He's made
definitive statements these guys didn't do this that I think
he said he didn't know about it. That's the other
side of it. Now, if any of that stuff gets disproven,
that is as big or a bigger story than whether
(38:19):
the guys did it or not, because he's made definitive statements.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
And I think the thing to remember about those definitive
statements is it's the old joke. It's never the crime,
it's the law. You've said that for years. It's the
cover up. It's a cover up. And so if I
can prove that he was a liar in this one,
you're on her. Then guess what. We're going to peach
his whole testimony because I can't believe anything he says. Yeah,
and again we always want to preface this. As Craig Haggard,
I believe said in the Indiest article today, nobody has
(38:45):
actually seen this video publicly saying they've seen the video
yet that we're aware of. And everybody's innocent until proven guilty,
and will just see what happens. But I'll wait to
read my cheat sheet this weekend.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
It's like it's like the blueprints of the Death Star.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
If Bill gives you boss, thank you, thank you, yeah,
all right, it's gonna do it for us today. Great job, Casey,
Thank you, Kevin, and most importantly, thank you to you,
the listener. Without you, there is no US Kennell and
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