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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So are you telling me that Elon Musk is the
most disliked public figure in America according to a poll.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm not telling you that. That's what the Gallup poll conducted.
They said that those were they're finding sixty one percent
of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Elon Musk.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, So Gallup did a poll.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
They didn't ask like, do you dislike Elon Musk more
than any of their public figure in America? But by
score the most amount of negative negatives, he would win in.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That correct in that category, yeah, okay, only thirty three
percent view him positively? Is six percent had no opinion?
How can you have no opinion?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, all right, so how does Elon Musk really? I mean,
if we look at this, and our audience will look
at this because they're into the news. They follow what's
going on with politics, with their government in society, so
of course you're going to know who he is. But
how does Elon Musk directly? Now, obviously the government contracts
the things he's doing, the technical it will potentially eventually

(01:02):
impact you in some shape, form or fashion, But in
terms of your day to day existence, what does Elon
Musk really do that you would say that, you would,
You would need a reason if you don't follow the
news to think about him on it, right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Probably not. I mean, what does Musk do for you? Well,
not much now, especially since he's no longer with the
Department of Government Efficiency. Right when he was working with DOGE,
that short lived involvement in the Trump administration, you could say, hey,
you know what, he's saving me money on some level.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right, But again, then you got to follow the news,
and you got to follow government, you got to follow politics.
And you know, you always get those polls about people
can't identify their you know, governors or senators or whatever.
And a lot of people, even people who know who
he is, he's just some rich, eccentric guy who builds
cars and rockets, right. I just I do find it

(01:55):
interesting that he is He had the highest negativity score
because I just don't like, what has he really done
that You would say, oh, that's part of it, too,
is and I blame this on the public education system. Well,
the education system is a collective. People have no idea
how society actually works. Like everybody will go to the

(02:16):
grocery store and go this is abhorrent how much food costs,
but they have no idea why food costs that much. Well,
the answer one of multiple answers, but a major player
in it is the government has printed so much money
because of bad government that dollars are worthless. Well, the
obvious answer to that would be get rid of the
bad government, which would make things potentially costless if you're

(02:40):
not printing as much money, which should make people happy.
But they're not capable because they haven't been trained on
how to do it. They're not capable of thinking that through.
So they see, well, Elon Musk took some nice guy's job,
or Elon Musk, you know, denied some person their food
stamps or you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
He's a horrible human.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you got to think is getting hit from both sides, right,
because obviously he had that very public falling out with
Donald Trump after he accused Trump of being named in
the Epstein files. And then you have the Democrats who
were very upset with him. In fact, he had a
negative eighty six net favorability rating just among Democrats. So

(03:22):
you put the dow together. Nobody likes the guy.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, here, I get this all the time, though, And
this is how. I just let me give you a
This is perfect timing. You don't even know about this
a real world example. I get this all the time
from people who are mad at me for telling you
how it's gonna work or it's gonna happen, right, And
just because you don't like the result, it ain't my fault.

(03:45):
I'm not a decision maker. Last hour, we talked about
that law that the state of Indiana passed that made
it twenty five feet. You couldn't if the cops wanted
to enforce up to twenty five feet from them doing
their job, they could keep you from that.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And that was the law.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And I said, look the moment that law has passed,
we said in these airwaves, that is going to fail
in court for a variety of reasons. And now for
one of them, the most prominent of the Fourteenth Amendment Court.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Of Appeals struck it down.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Struck it down.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Can't do that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
And I said, it was a poorly written law.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I knew it was written, just like when they fake
came after Holcomb on the emergency power stuff and they
wrote a law that Abdullah and I said it time,
that is going to fail. That is a law that
is designed to fail. It will fail, and it did
fail in court. We said the same thing about this.
It's a poorly written law. It's deliberately vague. It was
done that way for political reasons so they could rah

(04:36):
rah with the police rather than write a good law that.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Could pass, and it failed. Don't blame me for that.
I was right. Why are you mad at me? Here's
the email I.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Get from Debbie. By the way, here's how Debbie signs
her what do they call that or our signature line whatever?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
That is?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, My goal is to exceed your expectations. So
that's on her signature, and this is the email she
sent me. I can't believe you're supporting the law being
shut down about distancing from police that should have gone through.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
There's no reason these.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Street idiots need to have their cameras out and be
in back of the police while they're trying to help people.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's dangerment.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
They have no business being around an active police scene. Michael,
is to exceed your expectations, Debbie, and so I just
I will read you my response to her, because I
deal with this all the time. Where you're angry at
me for telling you how it's gonna go down. They
wrote a bad law. But you're mad at me. I said,
twenty five feet isn't an active police scene, and clearly

(05:41):
the court disagreed as we said they would. You shouldn't
be mad at me for the lawmakers writing a law
that many people believe was poorly written and would get overturned.
But yeah, it's sort of like the same thing with musk.
You're mad about the price of food. They're doing it.
He's trying to fix all telling you what's going and
now you hate him because our old lost his job
in the process.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yes, so Tesla saw a sixteen percent drop in their
net income, twelve percent revenue decline, and a lot of
people are saying that it's caused a broader decline and
public perception of not only him, but also electric vehicles. Now,
let's talk about some of the other people this.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Can I say something real quick though, Yeah, WU did
not exceed my expectations. I just want to get that
on the record because I know she's probably still listening
and real good.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't want to say I said it was your goal,
not that she was going to there's no guarantee.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, I'm letting her know, Okay, she did not exceed
my expectations. In fact, you underwhelmed me. Oh you underwhelmed
my expectations. Okay, so real quick. I just want to
say this though. What happened to Elon Musk is why
good people don't get involved, especially successful people, with trying
to help society through their government. And I've told this

(06:53):
story before, but I will tell it again. When I
was an elected person, there was a board that there
was a a local dentist in town who would be
perfect for it. My whole goal when I was elected
to clean out all the good old boys, all the
old timers, bring new people in. If I get younger people,
be great. And there was a beloved dentist in town
and I was like, this guy would be perfect for

(07:14):
this thing. So I went to him and I said,
you would be perfect. You have the skill set that
is totally applicable to this. We need new people. You'd
be great, and goes well, okay, but I really don't
want to do something that's going to potentially harm my
My practice was like, no, it'll be fine, Like this
stuff is very cut and dry. I mean, you'll have
to do some maybe controversial stuff, but it'll be fine.

(07:35):
He did the thing, He did the right thing, and
because it involved a thing that made the school system mad,
you know what they did.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
People started going in.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
There and going you you because they heard from the
tippy top people without having any knowledge whatsoever about what
the guy was actually doing or how it was going
to be beneficial or that he did the right thing.
You hurt the children. We're not gonna use you as
the dentist anymore. Well, who told you that? Well, so
and so told me that, do so and so said,
And he looked at me, and he goes, I told you.
I told you I didn't want to do this for

(08:05):
this reason. You told me it'd be no big deal.
Of course, I might have stretched truth a little because
I really wanted him on that board. But he goes, Okay,
my turns up at the end of this year, I'm
gone out of here. Even though the guy was really good,
he did the right thing, it was beneficial, but he
had to deal with all this crap and people threatening
his business for simply doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, it's not only that. It becomes dehumanizing, and you
have to give up your own integrity many times to
play the game. And good people don't want to do that.
So some more people that were on the list here
now Elon Musk. He fell behind the Israeli Prime Minister
Netnyahuu in popularity. He also trailed behind Pope Leo the

(08:44):
fourteenth by a big, big margin. So some other who
was number one is there?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
The pope is the most popular person. Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Now this pope, excuse me, you are the residential Catholic
expert of this radio program. This Pope thus far has
not really said or done anything that is remotely divisive
or controversial like the last pope. Right, He's been pretty
just just you know, hitting fairways and greens at this point.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, I believe. So. He just had a big thing
in Rome where there were like a million youth that
came in to hear him speak, and it seems to
be very popular.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Somebody gave him this is great. He was at some
event and somebody gave him a shirt that said to
Pope on it, because of course he's from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And that's the Bears and the Bears in the Saturday
Night Life.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
S kid.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
But what I'm saying is the last two popes on
the let what most people perceeed to be on the
left side of the aisle. Have seemed to have gone
out of their way to wade wade into issues that
sort of divided people amongst how they felt about the Pope.
This guy seems thus far to be pretty much you know,
like I said, fairways and greens, make a lot of pars,

(09:50):
don't make anybody mad, just sort of do what we
sort of associate with basic. How about this for some
phraseology basic Pope noess.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I thought you're gonna say, Pope is him? He had
a favorability rating of plus forty six. Now somebody else
who was also positive on this list, and when I
saw this, I thought, wait a minute, this is from
the gallop pole. Yeah, so I was thinking, oh boy,
they're getting partisan here. Maybe not Zelensky, Vladimir Zelensky from Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Uh huh?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Also net positive plus eighteen, Bernie Sanders plus eleven. But
then you have.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Bernie Sanders plus eleven.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, but then you had some people who were on
the negative.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Oh wait, wait, wa wait, touch time. So let's explore
that for a second. And we're going to run a
little long in this segment. But that's fine, okay, Bernie
Sanders has run twice for president and can't even get
out of his primary. Yet we're led to believe he's
this overwhelmingly popular guy. If he's so damn popular. See,
this is the way all this gets called into question
for me, why can't he win an election and not

(10:52):
even a general election the primary if he's so popular,
because we always hear this about Bernie Sanders, Yet he
can't win.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, and he's got to go on as fundraising tours
right now. He did that with AOC. She was in
the negative. She's minus four for being one of the
more popular people in America.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
AOC is bad.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Negative four.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
There's too many numbers.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay, that's because why is that? Because she's just as
obnoxious as a mouthe as Sanders is.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Why is that? What is what is that?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Why?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Why would somebody cav you're a young person. You fill
me in on this. Why would your idiot friends be
in favor of Bernie Sanders but not AOC. Help me
understand this. What's the difference to the same person, just
fit a different page fifty years give a great dispersion?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Why is this?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I mean, he ran for president, so I feel like
he's got a little more notoriety among the common folk.
Is he less obnoxious than her because she is? I mean,
he's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think they're both obnoxious.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, but he's almost like a cartoon, like you could
put him in a say it's a little bit lovable.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Well, I'm saying like he's such a joke or such
a character that people almost don't.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Take him seriously. Where you think she really is trying
to be serious?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes, she's a vicious mother.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, she's full of some hypocrisy as well, saying that
she grew up in the Bronx and everybody knows so
is he she did? Not though?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
How many homes does he have? Nine?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, exactly, and yet he went on that fundraising tour.
So Donald Trump and Marco Rubio are tied on this
list of favorability at negative sixteen. Okay, another couple that
are tied, and well, lo and behold, one of them
is in Indianapolis right now. Joe Biden and Jade Vance

(12:39):
both scored negative eleven.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And then you had Robert Kennedy Junior negative five in
your life.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And this is a great opportunity here. I tell people
this all the time because people ask her, They say,
how do you do what you do?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I say, simply don't care.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Like, once you stop caring what anybody spous us to
think about you, you will feel such a relief on
your life. And I tell people this, and I said
this in politics, never lost an election. And every month
we are judged by the public at large. Hey, casey,
how do we do in the in the ratings last month?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Number one? How do we do the month before that?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Number one?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
How do we do the month before that number? A
month before that?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Remember one?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Like one and a half times many months the next
closest competitor. So when I hear like anonymous people in
our YouTube chat, it's always the anonymous people, right, yeah,
we laugh at you. When I hear these politicians scream
about me, we laugh at you.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Why because the scoreboard.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So if you're a politician, you keep winning and you
can like, okay, Jade Vance is minus whatever, or Trump
is minus whatever, or Biden is minus whatever. Those guys
all they did was keep getting in the position they
wanted to be in.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know why, because they don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
They don't care what your stupid little pole says. The
only poll it matters to politician is the poll on
election day and people hop and people pop, and then
they go in they vote for the same crap over
and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So the government gotten man wrong again.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, that's what it looks like. The Congressional Budget Office
the CBO, they now estimate that the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act will add over four trillion to the US deficit.
And that's a little higher than the initial estimate, which
was three point four trillion.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well that's six hundred billion. I mean, I know, like
three point four doesn't sound that much less than four
unless we're in trillions, and then that's six hundred billion.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Isn't it amazing? It never goes down.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's never like, oh, we overestimated the amount of money
and'll add to the nation's debt. Oops, are bad this
So it comes back to, look these forecasters being wrong.
They're wrong on jobs, the wrong on the debt, they're
wrong on the Here in Indiana, they couldn't get the
numbers right for the economy and the budget.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Who are these people and how do they.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Keep having jobs if they keep being the off and
keep having to revise all their stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, this is the interesting part about this. They the
updated figure is now including seven hundred and eighteen billion
in debt service costs, which how much seven hundred eighteen billion.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's in debt service So that's to nothing. So interest payments,
that's money you're throwing out right.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Have you ever looked at.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
You're super rich, you paid cash for your home, so
it doesn't matter. But for us normal folks, us noormies.
You ever look at your mortgage and see just how
much money you light on fire every month with the interest.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Just with the interest?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, that As.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
The OCD person, that bothers me so much, not just financially,
but it just bothers me that money goes to some
rich mortgage investment wherever it goes, and it's just like
I'm just sending it out into the It makes me
want to pay off my home as fast as humanly possible.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I was going to ask you, do you ever feel
like making a double payment in a month to get
it down quicker?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You know what my plan is to do? What? Well,
I'm still working through it.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, you know you don't want to work there.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
We're gonna I'm gonna have a big I'm gonna have
a big plan. Case they just don't know what it
is yet.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But somebody told me.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
This, say more word, what's your plan?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
The uh?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Somebody told me this years ago, and and well, I
all counts has checked out something like if you make
two extra mortgage payments a year, you can cut like
fifteen years off your mortgage.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, that's why I was asking, are you planning on
doubling up? Right?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I do try to do that every year, because you
know me, I get a plan and I stick to it.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
You got a thirty year, fifteen year? What's going on
over there?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I will be in debt for a long time, casey,
I will be.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I am a parent at forty of a young child,
and I have a mortgage. I will be a slave
to society until my waning days.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yes, this is probably true, especially the cost of raising
a child keeps elevating. So the New York Post this
is kind of I don't know. I think it's good
and bad. You don't hear about new newspapers launching, right
they are all going away?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh yeah, they're going away? Are is there a new
newspaper the.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
New York Post is launching a West Coast newspaper and
it's called the California Post, and it's going to be
based out of Los Angeles, right, So they are going
to include both a daily print edition and an online lot.
That's what I'm saying. How hearing all the time about newspapers.

(17:32):
The cost of printing the newspaper is so high. That's
why a lot of them are going away the actual
cost of the printing. But now you've got this company
News Corps saying, yeah, no, California needs a Post like publication.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Tell me, Janine Piro does not look exactly like Nancy Pelosi?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You think so?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Do you think, keV? Look at that woman on TV?
Does that not look like a young Nancy? Like a
young Nancy Pelosi?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I guess if she was like thirty years Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I mean, what is she now?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
She's a prosecutor oh DC, She's the US attorney. People
know her from Fox News. She's the mouthy lady on
Fox News. And now she's the of course she is
because it's Trump. She's the US attorney for DC and
she's having some press conference. I think it's related to that,
that the Doge kid, the shooter, the Israel, the shooting

(18:28):
related to the Israel anyway. Point is she's she's having
a press conference right now, and she looks like if
you were to do a movie on a young Nancy Pelosi,
like I guess Pelosis so old now that would make
her in her sixties that you would cast her as
the Nancy Pelosi person.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Jine, She's judged, she's got her faculties.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Though she's saying she's a quick thing.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
What I'm saying, if you want to do a like
a flashback, Nancy Pelosi is nine million years old now,
so go back thirty years to win she was but
a young pup in her late fifties or whatever that
would be. That is who they would put in the movie.
That is amazing how much she looks like Nancy Pocy.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay, So there is a big debate that is raging online,
and I think we have to discuss it because I
want to know what your answer would be. It's Kendall
and Casey. It's ninety three, WYBC.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I just shouldn't have said anything at all. That's the
story of my life. I should have said nothing at all.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Somebody complaining about something as well, what would you do? Now?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I get lots of complaints every day and normally just
ignore them. But I'm having fun today with it, and like,
I'm just letting you in a little inside in my life.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So we were talking about, uh, I really want.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
To peek into that.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, Okay, keV, maybe we get I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't want to get shut down by YouTube. I
was gonna say, like, we need the people who need people,
Barbara streisand thing for the background on this, but I
just I don't want to go run the risk get
and shut down by the YouTube.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
So with the last segment we were doing, we were
doing it. I don't even know what we're talking about,
and I, as usually I just looked up at the TV.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We were talking about the Court of Appeals. Oh yeah,
some putting down that twenty five Some lady sent.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Me a derogatory email. Who What was her signature line?
I hope to exceed My goal is to exceed your expectations,
like a super positive, uplifting signature line. Okay, this lady,
she's she's the epitome of happiness and she you know,
probably brings a pie to her closings or whatever. Anyway,
it's this.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Just she's just riven on.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
You, whining at me that I pointed out the law
that said the police have to be twenty you have
to stay twenty five feet away from the police are
in Indiana was a horribly written law. It wasn't going
to pass muster. The courts were going to throw it out,
and they did. And I said that when the moment
was written a set on these airwaves, you can go back,
you can hear it.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
That ain't gonna hold up. And I said, that's ridiculous
that a low level radio broadcaster bird.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Lawyer can look at that, and all these attorneys in
our General Assembly couldn't see it.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
And she sent me this uber negative.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Thing, and I just responded her, was like, lady, I
just told you want to go pass the courts and
it didn't. And so I dealt with that, and then
in the process of that, I looked up on TV
and that what's Judge Janine was what she was known
as on Fox News, Janine Piro Piro. She's the US
attorney for the DC yeah District of Columbia now. And I

(21:29):
simply said that she looks like or has a resemblance
to if Nancy Pelosi, if a movie were made about
her and there were some thirty year flashback, that that
is what she looks like. Now, I'm not saying she's
lost her faculties like Nancy Pelosi. I'm not saying she's
an ugly person. I just simply said that.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
They have a similar right, she's seventy.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Four, by the way, I know that's she's very well preserved.
Nothing negative, derogative. And then I in the course of
human events, I simply said she was the known as
the mouthy lady on Fox News, meaning Casey did she
not like to get really intense and flap her gums
a lot?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, I think the other host would actually go to
her for her opinion because she is very educated.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And she brought the smoke she did. If some guy
not back down.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
If some person were to be like Rob Kendall, yeah,
you know he's the mouthy guy on WIBC, I wouldn't
be running around making a federal case out of it.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I was like, you probably own it. Yeah, you're kind of.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Right on that. I bring the smoke, and I'm right
a lot, and that's what we do. How are we
doing in the ratings. Casey very nice, Yeah, very good.
Andy sends me this just one offhanded comment. Nothing negative
about her.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Nothing she's a moron or doesn't know her stuff, or
she should have never had a law to like, nothing,
none of that. I just amply said, she's the mouthy
lady on Fox News.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I've listened to you for a long time.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Oh no, but you really shouldn't describe Judge Janine Piro
as the mouthy lady on Fox. She is truly a
patriot and deserves a respect.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
You respect her. Rom Okay, this is my life.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Everybody's like, what a cool job. You're the radio guy.
But I have to deal with this. That's the trade off.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That's the other side of it.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's the trade off. This guy is mad at me
because and by.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
The way, I love that she is super smart.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's what did it in for him. All the stuff
I've said over the years, and that's what did it
for him.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Did he say he's no longer listening.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, I didn't say anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Saying he felt that you needed to show her some respect.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I love this.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
She is truly a patriot deserves respects, respect.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I wasn't disrespecting her. What does she do?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
She flapped her gums on Fox. That's why she was paid.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's the only thing she did well and most recently though, That's.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
What I'm saying, why was she That's what she is
best known for. If you stopped somebody on the street
who wouldn't recognize her, it would be as the woman
who was mouthy on Fox.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I think she would like to be known as the
first prosecutor to have a domestic violence unit in her.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Off Well, I would like to be known as the
greatest municipal tax cutter in the history of the state
of Indiana, which I am.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
But what do people recognize me as most the guy.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Who does the midday showing WIBC, the off the rails guy.
People hear the name Rob Kindall, Oh that's the off
the rails guy, z Rob Kendall. Do I make a
federal case out of it if people recognize me as
the guy who you know, goes mollistic about bad government.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
But yet, did this guy I've.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Committed some sort of sin that should send me to
Guantanamo Bay for the remainder of my days.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
All right, let's argue about this a social media trend
has influencers and commentators up in arms over the major
cities in the country. That is the question, what are
the major cities in the United States? All right, Frank,
what do you believe are the four major cities of
the United States?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
New York, LA, Chicago, and Washington.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
The four major cities in the US are definitely Chicago,
New York, Los Angeles, and Vegas. If you say anything else,
you are dead wrong.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
New York City, Chicago, Miami.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
La, Miami, Los Angeles, New York City, and Austin, Texas.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
New York, LA, Chicago, Minneapolis, I think Austin.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Did I hear a Minnieanapolis?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Minnieapolis? So the trend here is that everybody's agreeing on
the top three, which would be New York Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Is the question Chicago, I asked you and keV what
what is the standard? Like?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
What what are the four cities you think of when
you think of America?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Is that we're not stating what the standard is. So
a lot of people are taking in consideration population, the
actual land size of the city. You could consider the
culture that it brings, or also the history of the city.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
But like for me, what of what if it's just
cities that bring you happiness. Like Brazil. Indiana was one
of the few places that had a nice public golf
course and up KFC with a buffet.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Right next to each other. Now, would you considered that
Brazil on the list?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Would you say that's a major city in the United States?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
It was a major to my upbringing. I played a
lot of golf there and ated.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That kfcrem therom there.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Now, somebody did go on and they were answering and
they said, Sheboygan Wisconsin like that. You know, obviously that
person has some favorite tis.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Okay, But if we're talking big cities that you first.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Think of you when you can, you say the major
cities of the United States.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I would, for I would say Los Angeles, New York, Chicago,
and I would put Houston in there.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, So you've got the uh NASA Space Center. It
is the fourth largest city by population in the country.
It's got a strong culinary scene. You've got your text
mex your barbecue, and you know it's it's got a
vibrant street scene.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Three major sports teams there.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You go, So some other cities that people are considering.
You've got Phoenix, Arizona, the fifth largest city in the country.
Obviously it's got that Southwest mix Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. This is
the sixth largest city in the country based on population.
A lot of history there, one of America's oldest cities,

(27:26):
Revolutionary War history, who liberty belts. There's no there's no winner.
This is just the conversation most people can agree this.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is everybody gets a trophy, every city gets a trophy
in this. Then there's no win.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Kind of like, what do you think what it would be?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
There's no there's no accumulation of the results to hears
who are the winners of the thing?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
What would you say?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I you know what I've kind of a lot of
people have been saying, Miami, Florida.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Uh, And I heard one about New Orleans, which I
thought was really interesting that you know, if you're going
to go like Chicago, go Midwest, and you want to.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Go a middles on your list, I.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Think New Orleans might be there just for the culture.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I don't need an explanation, I just need the four cities.
What are they?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
New York, LA, Chicago, New Orleans, Kevin as a snapshot
of the country.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I agree with the guy who used Austin as this
fourth city, but you would.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Go with Chicago, New York, Los Angeles. Yeah, of course. Okay,
very good. What are we doing next?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh, you're gonna tell us about people picking up their
dog species.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
How exciting this is going to be.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's Kennilly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Smarting and some artie and.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You can well, I mean you told it to me,
and I'm sure there's some sort of societal and by
the way, it's Kenilly Casey show. I'm rob that's Casey.
There's sort of some societal benefit from this. It just
seems very I don't know, I.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Mean, somebody was curious, so they wrote an article and
now we're going to talk about.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It, okay, and it's about what.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
The does and don'ts of throwing away dog poop.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
So this is our number one rated radio program in
civil Indiana for our time slot. We're beloved by many,
and we're going to teach you how to handle your
dog's your dog species about So.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
The City of Indianapolis spokesperson said that putting any kind
of trash in someone else's cart is technically illegal dumping Okay,
so this is.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
If you you're out the dog does the business, right,
we all know that if your dog does the business,
you got to pick it up. You can't just leave
it there. Correct, that's not your proper right, you know.
It's I was always embarrassed if my dog even did it,
like even if and I wanted somebody to see me
pick it up, like it would Bruce if he was
doing somebody. I wanted somebody to see me pick it up,

(30:09):
like no, I'm sorry that this is on your property.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
But there are people who will not pick the poo up.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
So what they're talking about is if you take your
dog for a walk and the dog does its business,
and you pick it up, and you're walking back to
your house and you happen to walk by a neighbor
who has their trash can out maybe you know it's
getting picked up the next morning or something, and you
decide just to lift their lid and drop the dog

(30:34):
poo And that's amazing. Oh, people do it all the
time because they don't want to carry the dog pool
all the way back to their own home, yeah, to
finish the walk, so they'll just put it in a
neighbor's trash can that's out. Technically that is considered illegal dumping.
You're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Now you're in the city, so you have you have
a city trash, Come get your trash.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
How long you leave your can out the night before okay?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, then once it's picked up, I put it away.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, and by the time you get home as it
usually picked up. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Because there are some people who will leave their cans out.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
For like days, days, right, or it just lives out there.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Can I do an other I know this is not
the purpose of our topic, but can I do another
beef that I have? Yeah, there is a near where
I live. There's a street that we walk down all
the time. Not a major thriffare through the town, but
it is a traveled street. There's a school near it,
et cetera. And people will leave their cans on the
sidewalk because there is no like like the driveways or

(31:35):
narrow And then in the evening when I'm going for
a walk, or I got my kid with me and
I'm going for a walking, got in the wagon or whatever,
their cans are still on the sidewalk.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Like the sidewalks are narrow, it's blocked, so I gotta
get off. I gotta make a choice.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I gotta either go through their yard with the wagon,
which I feel bad about being in somebody's yard, But
then I'm like, it's such a burden because it's a
there's like a little cliff to get to get to
the road, and that's a whole big thing to get
the wagon onto the road. Yeah, and it's pretty let's
just move it off the sidewalk. Well, I've been walking
the sidewalk. Can I touch someone's trash can? Is it

(32:10):
like a mailbox? Is that some sort of a fence
federal crime? Because I'm like, that's pretty rude of you
to just leave your can on the sidewalk into the
late hours of the evening. And it's multiple people that
will do this on the street, and it's interrupting the
travel of pedestrians, which is the premise of the sidewalk.
The sidewalk belongs to the pedestrian.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Right, So maybe you should just be more considerate to
your neighbors. Now here's the thing. I think you could
probably move the trash can out of the way and
you would not get any retaliation from that. Because the
Department of business and neighborhood services are the people who
actually enforce this section of the municipal code about the

(32:49):
illegal dumping with the dog poop. Sure, but they say
they lack the capacity to cite individuals for this specific
type of illegal dumping. So like, you're not supposed to
do it, but nobody's coming after you if you do
do it.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, So this was my This was my other question
because like, I because if you're touching somebody's trash can,
but it's in a public it's the sidewalk or right away.
I guess the side would be a right away because
it belongs to the public, Like you own, you own
that part of the property, but you don't mean the sidelox. Yeah,
so I could move that person's trash can onto their

(33:25):
property and not face any ramification. I'm not talking like
being angrily throwing. I'm glad we had this conversation because
I've struggled with this.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I don't think anybody's coming after you.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, because it's really an inconvenience And I'm I get
people work late or whatever. I get that happens, but
it is when I see multiple people on the same
street having the issue and we're talking into the evening hours.
I think at some point I deserve the right to
be able to move the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I'm just imagining you pulling a wagon. Is it a
red wagon?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah? Yeah, so you'll love that. It's cute as can be. Oh,
you'll love this.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
My neighbors they are like two or three houses. They
have kids that are elementary school age kids. And last
year they were like, hey, they've outgrown this both in
size and you're not putting a you know, a ten
year old in a wagon anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Would you like this wagon? And it's one of the
fold up wagons.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Nice, perfect, you can just put it back in the
garad folds back out.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's the perfect size for our daughter. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
So yes, my very nice neighbors, who had only met
a couple times before that, yeah, came and.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Rather than it going to a landfill, somebody else can
use it.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
What else do you have?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Okay, there's a new study. This came from Pure Research Center,
and they said that nearly half of American workers don't
take all their vacation days, that they're a looted Oh.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Why would you not do that?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
They say many of them feel discouraged from using their
time off. Oh, feel guilty.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I can relate to that.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, now here's what guilt for taking the time off
that you are owed.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, But see, I feel weird when I don't come
to work. We've been through this.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I feel very weird when I'm not at my job,
Like I'm like I'm missing something. That day we went
to Chicago, I was just like, how many emails do
I have?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
To look at you? And I got the OCD?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Are you thinking about work the whole time?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
You were?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
No, No, it's just like over my head. Right when I
get home, I know there's these emails.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
And that's the way.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
See, you don't have crippling OCD, Casey, that's the way
the OCD works, Like you get focused on something. It's
why I'm so good at this job, because you just
get focused on something and you don't get off it,
and you can't get off it until you fix the
thing in question. And to me, I just knew they
could all be junk emails, but I got to get
thrown my got.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Off delete them or whatever. Yeah, and I'm just thinking
the whole time, like I got so much to do.
When I get home, I don't have the crippling OCD.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I have the fear of failure, and nobody is a
harder critic on myself.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You are myself like all the time, Casey will be
ripping on herselfing like Casey, you should care as little
as I do.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Right, But people don't take their vacation days also there
they have a fear of being seen as a slacker
or replaceable. Like you feel like, Okay, you took this
day off and they carried on without me, and maybe
that don't need me, or they'll find somebody who does
it better.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Now, this radio station actually owes me a giant thank you,
which I will never get because, as we know, every
year and they yell at me, I save all my
days until the end of the year and then just
take them. I basically don't work in December.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
That works out real nice for me.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
The reason I don't work in December is because, and look,
I freely admit, I am driven by spiite and rage
and hatred, spite and rage and hatred for the people
down the street from us at two hundred West Washington. Sure,
and I know the biggest middle finger in the world
to those people who I know the feeling is mutual
back as me.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
They don't get a break from you.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, well is when they got to see that ratings
book posted every month and we are numero uno.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That is my drive to be here every single day.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And for the people whon't know the way the business works,
they don't really take the December book because everybody's off
and you got Christmas music and all this other stuff.
It doesn't it doesn't count the same. It's universally accepted.
It's like a throw away the holiday books and blah
blah blah. So like I feel comfortable that I can
do that because even if the ratings go down, it's
not a thing that people are judged by. And then

(37:01):
then I can get right back on my horse first
of January making these people insane on how well we
do it? Do you that I am I a horrible
human for that?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
No? No, I think you're you're You take pride in
what you do and you want to do a good
job for all of our listeners. But my question for you,
when you return back after taking such a huge chunk
of time off all at once, Yeah, don't you have
an issue like re engaging restarting? Is it kind of like, Ah,
those first couple of days are like.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I was born to do this, Casey barn Right, I
can do this in my sleep. I could do this
all day every day. I'm like Benny in the Sandlot.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know. Bennie would play baseball all day, every day
and all night. That's me. I would do radio all day,
every day and all night. And uh wait.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
What a way to go out today about how much
we love our job.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Hopefully we get to keep them because they told us
around here, Thursday's the day they tell you if.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You're really Thursday right, Well, we'll find out tomorrow if
we're all If we're all here in the meantime, thank you,
Thank you, Kevin, and thank you for listening. It is
Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
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