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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So violence is still out of control in the city
of Indianapolis. No new news to you, but what are
your lawmakers trying to do about It's Kennelly Casey Show.
I'm Rob Casey's here. Let's go to the WIBC hotline.
Our friend Josh Bain from the Indianapolis City County Council
joins us. Now, the Republicans on the City County Council
have a new proposal out to try to help with violence.

(00:22):
We'll see if it'll do any good, Josh joins us now,
Josh Bain, Hello, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, so there was.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
A big I got a press conference or get together
or whatever, and Michael Paul Hart, the leader of the
Republicans on the City County Council, had a big unveil
on plans that deals specifically with how to curb out
of control youth youth violating curfew.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, Well, I do just want to point out there
are three proposals with this. The one you're referring to
with youth violence is a very targeted proposal. I think
the other two are going to have much more systematic
and impactful changes when it comes to the city County Enterprise.
But this all happened because a little over a month ago,
Council Republicans held a roundtable discussion with our Republican policy

(01:10):
team as well as the chief of Police, the chief
of id the MESA chief, the EMS director, and we
even invited Prosecutor Ryan Meres to that and he did
show up there, and yeah, he showed up, and so
this all three of our ideas sprung from that event.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, so let's start.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Let's start with the one that kind of got all
the attention though, which is the fines for the curfew violation.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Just tell us about that first.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I think the residency requirementent one has actually guarded
more attention than that one. But with the the fines,
it's basically a way for us to add teeth to
the proposal that is going to come up for vote
this upcoming Monday night to amend the curfew hours. You know,
it's different for each day's like weeknights, it's the earlier

(01:59):
than week in like Friday, Saturday night and everything, but
it basically is our attempt to get parents to wake
up and to be held accountable. We heard in that
committee hearing from counselors on both sides of the aisle,
as well as law enforcement advocates and community nonprofits and

(02:21):
faith leaders that are having to deal with the out
of control youth. And so this is our attempt to
say parents, it's more than just a fifty dollars fine.
We're actually having serious consequences with this now, where you know,
first violation, it's a warning, that's standard practice, but second

(02:43):
violation it's a five hundred dollars fine. Third and subsequent
violations it's fifteen hundred dollars or more. You know that
that's dependent upon.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, okay, Jess. But here's what people are saying. They're saying,
these people are letting their kids roam the streets at night.
They're not going to care about to find Do you
think this they're gonna pay it? How you get enforced it? Like,
do you think a fine is actually going to prevent
people who let their kids roam the street of Indianapoli.
They're gonna be like, well, I'm making fine, so I
ought to do some actual parenting now.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah. So here's here's why I think this is really
important because there's been some i think miss close out
there and everything The county prosecutor doesn't have anything to
do with this. This doesn't have anything to do with
Ryan Meures. This is the city prosecutor. Since it's a citation,
it's a city prosecutor. And ultimately, if they don't end

(03:33):
up paying the fine, which you know, we're we're gonna
be working with all of our community partners, faith leaders,
things like that, you know, hopefully to do some education
around this. But they refuse to pay the fine, we
do have the authority to garnish your tax returns, so
there will be an impact self caraboo Casey.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I'm wondering, Josh, who came up with the fine amount.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, so it was in consultation with you know, a
lot of our community partners, law enforcement advocates, et cetera.
To say that it has to be something that felt
a fifty dollars fine, even if you know it's lower
income parents or things like that, you know it's just
going to be brushed off. But if you get a
fifteen hundred dollars fine, then you see that in your

(04:24):
you see that garnished on your tax returns, you will
take notice of that.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Josh Bain from the Indianapol City County Council is our guest.
We're talking about the proposals the Republicans have put forward
to try to help with safety and decrease violence in
the city of Indianapolis. All Right, so we've made it
through the curfew, the fines. What other parts of this
plan are the Republicans touting.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah. One of the biggest things that I think has
told our city back for a long time, and this
even goes beyond public safety, it was the fact that
we have residency requirements for city employees. And it's kind
of convoluted in many ways because there's some state law around,
like these people do need to be in uh, you know,
live in your county. It's a very small percentage of employees,

(05:08):
but for fifty years we've mandated that if you're a
city employee, you have to live in Marianne County. Does
that include police So there's a state law that exempts
IMPD they can live in surrounding counties. There's a state
law that also deals with ID so like perfect example,
if you're a firefighter, you can live outside of marionn County.

(05:31):
If you're a mechanic that works on the ambulances and
fire trucks. You have to live in Marianne County.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, So how does that how would that how would
making being able to not have to live in Marion County?
How does that make people safer?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Because it has a direct impact on nine on one
call center operators, there's a direct impact on everything, has
a direct impact on your ability to get equipment onto
the streets faster. It has a direct impact on every
single department in the city, county enterprise, take take permitting

(06:05):
for me.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Wait wait wait wait wait, And I love you, Josh,
but are we saying that we think the people who
live in Married County are too incompetent to like pull.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
This stuff off?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Is that what we're we're getting at that somehow they're
in competency is leading to more violence on the streets.
I'm failing to make the connection here on this.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Because you're increasing your talent pool.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
You can go outside the county.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
But I mean, it's like, what I'm saying is I
would I get this and police, as you said, polase
and fire are exempt, but like, what are these people
not doing properly that's leading to enhanced violence in the
What are the city employees not doing that is leading
to enhanced violence in the city of Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing that you need to
look at is the fact that we have been short
staffed for a decade now. And look, I'm here, I
can easily say, you know, it's the mayor's fault. No
one wants to come work for the mayor's administration. Obviously
a lot of that's through, so we have to increase
our talent pool. We have permits that can't go out
for anything. We can't hire enough prosecutors. You know, if

(07:07):
you were to get Ryan meures On here and he
would tell you that his prosecutor staff is already at capacity.
There's state law around how many cases a prosecutor can
have at any given time. They're at that capacity.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, so it's going to go out. So it's not that.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
If we're going to go after these lower level crimes,
we have to have more prosecutors in the building.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, So that at you we can do that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's not that the employees are in competence. You can't
get up people that want to work, and thus it's
delaying services.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Absolutely very good that it's with that on every single department,
all right, now.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
What are you expecting for the budget that will be presented.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, so there's going to be some some rationing that
has to be done. The city's looking at I think
it's a mid twenties million dollar deficit compared to the
previous year. So every every department is going to have to,
you know, look at what their expenditures are and cut
back on that. And from everything that I've been told,

(08:08):
you'll see that presented on Monday night.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Do you think it'll get passed?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
We're going to have some discussions around it, you know.
I think the council Republicans are going to be looking
at how we can address the court system, how we
can address the prosecutor, the one real oversight that we
have over the court system over our prosecutor. It's not
like we can pass in order and to say, hey, prosecutor,
do your job better or judges do your job better.
We don't have direct authority on that. We do have

(08:35):
authority over funding, and the only time that we have
any kind of saying that is during the budget season.
So I say be prepared for that. And then there's
also a third component to the public safety package, which
is going to be huge and something that our chief
is advocated for for a long time, and that is

(08:55):
making the General Orders Board advisory. I don't know if
you guys remember the Democrats on City County Council has
an ordinance to make the General Orders Board citizen led
and this was right during the BLM riots, So you know,
Democrats in Indianapolis put a bunch of BLM type defund

(09:17):
the police activists in charge of policy making for IMPD.
Our chief is the only chief in the entire country
that has to deal with this, and he has no
authority to create policy for his department. And we've had
a lot of conversations with state House leaders. This is
our attempt to say, hey, before the state looks at
getting involved in everything, you can still have your General

(09:39):
Orders Board, but we're going to make an advisory. They
can have meetings with the chief, they can make recommendations
to the chief, but we are going to put IMPD
policy back in the hands of the chief of police.
And that I think that, along with the residency requirements,
are going to be the most impactful proposals that this
Council has seen in a long time. I know that

(10:01):
the FOP President Rick Schneider, he called these proposals common sense,
and he said that it's about time that you saw
something like this. He said, they're no brainer moves to
make a real difference in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
All right, Well, if they're no brainer moves, I'm sure
they'll get voted against. But thanks for trying, Josh Josh
Baine from the Indianapolis City County Council, thank.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
You anytime, my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
You're listening to Kendill and Casey on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So what the federal government is taking over Washington d C.
Now they've done such a fine job with the country
now that they're going to just take control Washington d C.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well that's the talk, right, Donald Trump. He threatened to
take federal control of Washington DC this following some violence
that's been happening there, and one specifically was that the
doge guy, Edward Cornstein, he was allegedly severely beaten while
he was trying to stop a gang from assaulting someone.
And Donald Trump actually shared that image and Donald Trump

(11:06):
described the attackers as local thugs. And he's saying, no more.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
What do all of these large cities, whether it's Indianapolis,
it's Washington, d c Chicago. I mean, basically, pick your
favorite large major metropolitan sy What do they all have
in common?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Democrat leadership, all run by Democrats. You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
So Greg Ballard, I think maybe next week we're going
to have our old buddy Robert Vaine is in charge
of putting this together. So it may take three weeks,
who knows. But Craig Ballard has a new book out
just talking about just this and he was sort of
one of the last big city Republican mayors and talking
about his time running the city of Indianapolis. And he's

(11:48):
supposed to come on next week or the week after whatever.
Vaine gets onto it and.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Puts this thing together. Hi, Robert, we love you and talk.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's what the books about about being one of the
last of the big city Republican mayors. And you think
about it's fascinating because I know you weren't here then.
But like the things we used to like complain about
with Ballard, Hey, we're mad there were too many electric
vehicle charging stations, or there was the cricket stadium, and
it's like you look at it and go that those
things were great uses of public finances. But boy, wouldn't

(12:20):
we trade that being the worst thing now compared to
what we've had the last nine years under hog Set.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Wouldn't we love to have the sort.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Of relative safety and security we had under Ballard, the
relatively scandal free administrations, rather boring.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Day to day existence. Wouldn't we love to have all
that back?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And yet these big cities keep voting the exact same way.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah. Actually, what our listeners want is for you and
I to struggle every day to put a show together. Yes,
because we can't find enough things to talk about. You know,
it's funny more we have the worst it is for
everyone else.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's funny you said that because somebody I was talking
about the other day, and they were talking about all
this stuff going on with Micah's office and then the
stuff with Diego. You know who the most happy guy
in the world is about the bull crap allegedly going
on in Micah's office, Diego Morales.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
When's the last time we mentioned that guy? He's like, Hey, you.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Keep it up with the scandal ridden office, buddy, you.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Keep it going focuses off of him?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, no kidding, but anyway, the uh, it's great for
our this stuff is great for our programming. It sucks
for our listeners though, right Like, the worst thing for
us would be a competent, quiet, well run, taxpayer first government.
If they did that, we'd have nothing to talk about.

(13:41):
And instead they just keep giving us content every single day.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
So Donald Trump was talking about this and he mentions
bringing into the National Guard to Washington, DC. Are you considering.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Taking over the DC polace is at a poption? We're
considering it, yeah, because the crime is ridiculous. I could
show you a chart comparing DC to other locations and
you're not going to want to see what it looks like.
It was just up on television actually that were showing it.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Now.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
We want to have a great, safe capital, and we're
going to have it, and that includes cleanliness and includes
other things. We have a capital that's very unsafe.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
We just almost lost a young man, beautiful, handsome guy
that got the hell knocked out of him the night
before last.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And I'm going to call him now.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
We wanted to give him a little recovery time. We
just put a call into him.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
They're calling back a little while. But he went through.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
A bad situation, to put it mildly, and there's too
much of it. We're we're going to do something about it.
So whether you call it federalized or what. And that
also includes the graffiti that you see, the papers all
over the place, the roads that are in bed shape,
the medians that are falling down, the median in between
roads falling down. We're going to beautify the city. We're

(15:03):
going to make it beautiful.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And uh, what a shame.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
The rate of crime, the rate of muggins, killings, and
everything else.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
We're not going to let it.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
And that includes bringing in the National Guard, maybe very
quickly too.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Okay. So that was on Tuesday that he answered that
he hasn't detailed how or when he would federalize DC.
Local law enforcement there and federal agencies. They haven't commented
on this situation. But again yesterday, a Trump administration spokesperson
was saying that Washington, DC right now is more violent
than Bagdad.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Can I tell you, like, I'm not training it in
any way take away from the seriousness of the thing here.
That guy getting beat up, just like since the funeral CINNTI,
it's all horrible. But I just love the Trump just
off the cuff statements because he'll just start adding things
blah blah blah. He was a beautiful guy, handsome guy

(15:59):
that I called him. We're expecting a called back any like,
it's totally irrelevant to what he's telling.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's like when he was one with Joe Rogan and
went off and talked about Tad Lincoln bedroom.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Lincoln was sad Tad and Dad, Yes we know you. Yes,
they didn't call it depression. Look Tad.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
There's a tiny photo of tiny Tad right over there.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Like, I just that is my favorite part of it.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
He was a beautiful man, beautiful handsome guy, got got
beat up.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I called him. I'm expecting a called back any minute.
I don't know when, any minute.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like just it's that is the little It's the little
things in life, Casey, the humor me.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Another thing that is happening, Donald Trump is preparing to
sign an executive order and this allows four oh one
K retirement plans to invest in alternative assets such as
private equity, real estate, and cryptocurrency. Oh yeah, well the
move would open up about nine trillion dollars in four

(17:00):
oh one K markets to previously restricted areas. Yeah, do
you think that the average person knows how to wisely
invest their money? I means what they're doing with Social Security, right,
They say, you're not smart enough to do it, so
we're gonna do it for you.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I yeah, we should call my friend build our friend
build memory and see what he thinks about that. You know,
they always say, consult your trained financial advisor.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I mean, look, it's your money, it's your market, it's
your thing. But here's the problem. If I don't got
to bail you out, if it don't work, then do
whatever you do. You The problem is I gotta bail
these people out. Every time something goes down, I end
up having to bail somebody. An auto industry goes down,
take money from ROB. The housing industry goes down, take
money from rob. In fact, they're not taking money from
me anymore. They're taking money from seven generations from me

(17:58):
now in the future. You're right, yeah, I'm That's always
been my thing. If I don't got to bail you out.
It's like the seat belt people. Should you wear a
seat belt? Of course, absolutely, it's common sense. I wear
a seat belt, My wife wears a seat belt. We
will always tell my kids to wear seat belts.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But if you want to fly through a windshield. What
business is that of mine?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
As look as I don't have to bail you out
with the medical costs. I'm always like the smoking. Felt
that way about the smoking. If you want to do that, great,
But I should have to pay for your healthcare cards.
Like all of these things, I always end up paying
for somebody else's problem. And I see myself having to
pay for this problem should it occur down the road.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
So experts are saying that investors struggle with basic concepts
adding complex products could do more harm than good. Trump
still expected to sign this executive order sometime today, and
that most likely will trigger some regulatory reviews before anything
is implemented.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Can I read a comment from the YouTube chat?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Sure, by the way, you know an hour later. Now
I'm just gonna read it now so strong I don't
want to wait. Okay, it comes from mister g being
serious for a minute. I want to thank Rob for
talking about how that scumbag, Eric Holcombe he ruined Indiana forever,
all that made us hoosiers are gone. He had scumbag
and Eric Holcomb and thanking me in the same set

(19:20):
of commentary.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
We had to move that who straight to the front
of the lot.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
He should have sent that at nine am. Hey, we
talked about nothing else.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, is it all right? There was a big announcement
and I thought it was very important. And I know
people we think, oh, everybody just listens for three hours.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
We do have an update on this, these allegations of
AI porn being viewed shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office,
and I.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Wanted to you want to give that update coming up update.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And I thought maybe it might be it might be
good for you to read the update that you read
at the top of the show as well.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Again, Oh, sure we can do that. It's Kendall and Casey.
It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hey, you have some uplifting news about electricity, and by uplifting,
I mean thoroughly depressing.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
So we've talked about this electricity costs rising nationwide? Could
he get even higher? This? Of course because of the
explosion of the data centers and powering more a I
surging power bills, way way way budgets are getting stretched.
Everything's more expensive.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Rout time out, timeout time out.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You're saying these data centers are causing electricity prices to
go up.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
What breaking news?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So wait a second.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, we're bringing these things into our communities. They're gobbling
up valuable farm land that's feeding a nation. We're giving
them special tax abatements we don't give to anyone else.
And then for all of that, we're not really getting
employees because they for the most part don't employ people.
We're just getting rising electric bills.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
So the national average did I miss something? No? You
got it? You got it? You want to keep going? No?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, I just I just I feel like they're there
must be a you know, it's like the South Park
episode with the underwear nomes, uh, steal underwear something something
profit like, there's something in the middle that I've missed here,
because why would we be giving away tax incentives to
people that are making stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
More experience expensive for people?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, So the national average for a residential place electricity
rose from sixteen dollars and forty one cents to seventeen
dollars and forty seven What was the numbers, sixteen forty
one to seventeen forty seven. Now that was nationwide. Yeah,
so Indiana has seen an eleven point five percent rise
in our electricity costs.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
How much?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Well, we're the second highest in the Midwest. Twelfth Yeah,
in the entire what was the rise, as you said,
a percentage eleven point five percent.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Eleven point five percent.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
So that may not sound like much to you, but
think about if let's do the math.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean, it should sound like a lot to you.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
But if you had one hundred and thirty dollars electric
bill last month, which depending on what you have in
your house, that's not at all out of the realm,
or probably a lot more for many people. But let's
just let's let's do a nice round number. Okay, let's
say it's two hundred dollars. If you have an all
electric house and you got five to seven people in

(22:12):
your house, that's probably not outrageous. That's twenty dollars a month.
Trablate that over twelve months, two hundred forty dollars a year.
It's two hundred and forty dollars a year that just disappeared
for the exact same service you were getting the year before.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Uh, not necessarily the exact same service. It could be
worse service coming up.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Am I getting less electricity?

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well you could? I mean these AI data centers age
oh yeah, graining power.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
So not only do I get more expensive electricity, I
could get.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Les let's to be determined right now.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
What think about the segment we did yesterday where that
Austin Bonta, who's the mayor of Portage, and Nipscoe who's
the power provider up there. They had this big rate
increase and his constituents are outraged as they should be
over it. And so he expresses that sentiment and says, hey,
we got to fix the system. We can't have these
rate increases over and over and over again. You know,
it's just like with food, right or the rent or

(23:01):
the mortgage increase. You're pricing people out of living. We
got to do something.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
What's he get?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
He gets some crappy text from Ed Soliday, who controls
utilities in the house, basically threatening to cut off funding
increases to his city if he flaps his gums anymore
about the the I U r C and the and
the rate increases. These are the people running our state.
This is how they view you. The consumer, shut up
and pay. The state logo should be shut up and pay.

(23:28):
The sign those signs, those ugly rotten signs and big
letters should say welcome to Indiana. Shut up and pay,
because that's all our lawmaker's view. You as now is
somebody who shuts up and to shut up and pay.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Obviously, these data centers they cause huge immediate energy demand.
They need grid upgrades, and you know the utilities are
just going to be passing these costs onto consumers. And
did you see the article? Who was it? Who's that
movie director? Oh James Camer I.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was going to start guessing. People got to him about seven.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I'm sorry, James Cameron warned of a Terminator style apocalypse.
Oh if AI is weaponized.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh that sounds predictable. Both dangerous and predictable.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
That sounds a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Huh yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, speaking of a Well, I'll let you go first.
You read an important announcement at the beginning of the show,
and I thought, because we have a lot of people
who do listen all three hours, but many people who
are popping in and out, I thought I would let
you behoove you to go ahead and let her by
know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Again.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Well, sure, and it's not normally something that we would mention,
but because Jim has filled in here on WIBC, our
listeners have grown to get to know him real quick.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Got to mean to catch up, Jim Keyhoe your husband, right.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Everybody knows we're married. We announced it when he took
a job with the Lieutenant Governor's office. So just to
keep you up to date, we're announcing that, Yes, he
resigned from his position yesterday with the Lieutenant Governor's office.
He did that voluntarily. He was not asked to.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, very good, So we want everybody know that.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
And the best part about this is Jim is my
favorite filling guy, and we love all our filling people,
but Jim and I have struck up a very good
friendship over the years, and now hopefully he'll get to
return being the filling guy to the Kindley Casey Show.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Something to look forward to.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Uh, okay, so that was your announcement. Now, in the
nine thirty segment, I gave an update on these allegations
of AI porn being viewed and shared in the Lieutenant
Governor's office, and I wanted to let everybody know again
that Look, it's been very frustrating for me the.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Past week as I have watched.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Various people say various things that appear to be in
extreme contrast with the facts as I have known them.
On the ground and we said, one of the things
that is hard about this job is we get in
for that we aren't yet ready to publicize. And this

(26:05):
happens all the time on the show. We have a
vetting process, we have things we go through. It's how
we But because we have sources all over the state House.
I used the JD Van stuff as an example, where
did that story get broke?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Got broke here? Why?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
We have people in the state House who are huge
fans of this show. They're all over the state House.
Many of them can't speak up publicly, but they give
us information. That's how we got that right, That's how
we got that first, whether it was the Beaubaard Dui story,
what was the Mike Bohatgik do you I?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Story?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Like, we do break news quite a bit on this program,
and one of the things that's been very frustrating is
because there was information we could not yet reveal, it
felt like the Lieutenant Governor's office was in part hiding
behind Well, nobody's come out and said they've seen this.

(26:56):
It's you know, the media is making this up. They're
just inventing this. Isn't it wild that nobody's seen this.
Somebody who I've been talking to for the past week
now has alleged that they have seen it, and they
have on multiple occasions described seeing the video in question

(27:21):
and the circumstances under which they viewed the video, and
on multiple occasions I have talked with them about this,
on multiple occasions they have told the exact same story,
with specific details remaining the same. This person is more
than willing to tell this story publicly, hopefully in the

(27:43):
near future, and the only thing preventing them from doing
so right now is they are currently cooperating with the
authorities in this manner in this matter, and as soon
as that is that obligation is fulfilled. They have stated
they are more than willing to come on and tell
the story exactly as they told it to me, for
the public at.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Large to consume.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And I would just say this again because the Lieutenant
Governor made a definitive statement both to Labianco and he
Tom Labiancle, the guy who broke the story, and he's
made the definitive statement, as I recall, at Tera hate
that this did not this did not happen, that he
has done his own investigation and this did not happen.
And if that is the case, the best thing that

(28:26):
Micah Beckwith could do right now, not only for himself,
but for these people who are alleged to have done this,
and for the entire state of Indiana, is to fully
present to the public. And by the way, everybody knows
Marion County Prosecutor's Office is looking at it. As Craig Haggard,
the guy whose wife was allegedly the victim of this,
stated that so not only do the public at large,

(28:48):
but to the Marin County Prosecutor's Office, as soon as possible,
present all the information which led you in one day,
a weekend day, by the way, to clear your guys.
That is the absolute best thing you could do for yourself,
for these guys, and for the entire state of Indiana.
And I would do that today.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
You're listening to Kendl and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Hey, this is our last segment of the week. Casey,
you better bring your a game. How about that?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
At no pressure, no pressure. Yesterday I brought my a game.
We were talking about the four major cities and you
were getting all worked out. Multiple people have told me, no,
you know what, In fact.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm gonna read.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
I'm going to read the text, not my guys, from
Denny Smith. Denny Smith after yesterday's segment, this time talking
about the four major cities. Yeah, most people agree that
they are in New York, LA, and Chicago. And the
debate arises around what is the fourth city. And it's

(29:55):
open to interpretation, whether you want to say it's based
on population, land, mas, culture, history, whatever. It's a special
city in your heart. You get to determine what do
you think is the fourth major city. You and I
went back and forth in this right. Denny Smith texted
me and he said, you are the most patient co

(30:15):
host in America. I would have slapped the ever living
you know what out of him. You are wonderful and
also so patient. And I said, ha, thanks Denny. He's
a handful.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, So a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think all I said was, lady, make a definitive statement,
because you were trying to go out.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
It was building up to why I made the decision.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
You were going to some big philosophical thing, and I
was like, woman, we are up against it. We got
to like have an answer here, Like I was just
looking out for yourself.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
But here's the thing. You don't.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
On one hand, yes, he's right, Okay. On one day
he's right, here's here's here's the thing. Though, it's like
in Kevin backed me up on this. Kev's a single guy.
He's out on the market. Get If you enter in
to any sort of social endeavor with the person you
know to be completely crazy, then you don't get sympathy later.

(31:13):
If you're like three months down the road, this is awful.
This person is completely unhinged. If everyone tried to talk
you out of it, including the person you're dating themselves,
and said, don't date me.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I'm crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You could do better.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You are better than whatever this endeavor is, you don't
get sympathy from your friends. I tried to talk you
out of this job on multiple occasions. I was like,
do do you Your life is too good for this,
and you still chose to work here. So you don't
get sympathy from the public. Probably you have to go
work with a rob every day.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
By the way, Denny Smith's four major cities were New York, Chicago, LA,
and Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know the one we didn't get really any mentions,
or maybe it didn't. I just wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
You were totally not paying attention.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
What was it Boston?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Did Boston get mentioned by but not.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
On the air. I did mention Boston in the article,
which you can find right now at WIBC dot com.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
But am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like you were fully warned of what this engagement was
going to look like, both over the zoom call and
when we got together in person, and you still chose
because this was such a marvelous opportunity to be with
this uh huh? And Kevin backed me up on it, right,
Like people make stupid choices over something that looks beautiful

(32:32):
all the time. And you you, I mean, you made
the right choice. Look at how marvelous your life is.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Super fantastic. So Pickle Match. Have you heard of this?
Pickle Match? It's a new dating app and it aims
to connect Wait wait, it's called what pickle match?

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Uh? Huh?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
What do I even want to know what it is?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, it's a dating app, huh, and it aims to
connect singles through their shared love of pickleball.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh boy, I had several guesses, and that wasn't even
close to being one of them.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
You we're going to go down the wrong road. I'm
glad I kept you between the lines.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Okay, So pickleball is so popular now I'm guessing this
is amongst an older population. You think so well, isn't
that where so our ball? Not to say that he's older,
but our boss David would he loves pickleball.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
He does. I think that's the what he uses to
keep it shape.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah. I have never played pickleball. I don't think i've ever.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Actually, I have observed in a park setting people playing pickleball.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Have you ever played pickleball?

Speaker 5 (33:33):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Not.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Have you ever observed anyone playing pickleback?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
I have not. I mean, besides you know seeing a
video of it. You're such an in person.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
You're such a fun person though, I'm surprised you have not,
and you're such an events based person. I'm surprised you
have not drug your husband to a pickleball match to
like play at some point? Do you need two people
on each side?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Though?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Right? Can you play single pickleball people?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
I don't know. I don't know a lot about the sport, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Does it take too you can do single?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah? You've played?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Do you play with older people or people your age?

Speaker 7 (34:06):
I have a group of friends that I play with
and they're my like around my age.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Are there any women I would say.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
There's not a ton of single women I feel like.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
But it also depends on where you go, Like that
could just be the park that I go to.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Somebody somebody the YouTube chats and can you imagine the
winners on that app?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hey you guys nice?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
You could sign up for pickle match so the users
they can create profiles and it will it will feature
their skill level and their favorite pro players and also
their preferred courts. And you can meet on the court
first if you'd like before you like.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
You meet up instead of I met you at a
local coffee shop. Oh you went with coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I went with.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
That's perfect instead of instead of like coffee shop, taffor.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Uh huh, instead of a barn.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
You meet at the pickleball on the court, right on
the court. And they say that this is designed to
break the ice naturally emphatically shaking.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
I think that's a bad first date idea.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Wow, why because you can't really you don't really have
a chance to get to know the person.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
You're on the opposite sides of the court.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
But don't you think it would be less like a
job interview than you know, like a first date, where
it's a job interview to a coffee shop. You know,
people like, tell me about yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
That's how it goes into coffee shop.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
What do you do for a living?

Speaker 7 (35:33):
I mean, I'm all for activity dates. I just don't
think not a burstay is a good one for the
first date.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh, I want to come back to that. You've viewed
how long, Well, it's been a while since you've dated.
You've viewed dating as a job interview.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's how it worked for you.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
No, it's not what I view. I think it's what
people who are in the dating worldview. It as based
on what I've seen. Kevin, in my right, you got
to get to know each other, and that entails tell
me about yourself, where are you from, what do you
do for a living, what's your family like?

Speaker 7 (36:02):
It can feel very formal sometimes, Yeah, I wonder your
generation is so lonely and miserable.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's how you're treating the first date.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
It's screwed up.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I have no chance.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
I don't think we need any more dating apps too.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Well, okay, so there are some interesting dating apps. There's
now the pickleball dating app. I have a set of
friends who are very happily married and have been for
a long time, who met on the Catholic Match Apparently
that's a dating app or a Catholic people get together.
There's a farmer website. Is that what it's called. There's
a there's a farmer website of something.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
There's a senior one too. I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
But still alive.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
I think that with the Catholic one and the farmer one,
I think those are good because you're more likely to
find someone that you have a lot in common with.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
But you don't think pickleball is enough to drive you
to some sort of sustain success.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
It's too basic.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Now, I went to a wedding and the couple met
on hinge and they put that in their wedding program
that that's how they met.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Ah, this was years ago. Never mind, No, I don't
know if I want to go to the weekend like this.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Ago. I'm getting come a long way.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Wow, this is getting.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
God has worked in my life in the wonderful ways.
I went.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I went out with the girl for a series of
dates and we had a very good mutual friend and
she was like so cheering for this, and then it
didn't work out, and she asked her direct She's like,
you and Rob, it was going so well, what happened?
And this was her quote, I'm concerned he will never
give up Broad Ripple. She's like, I need someone with

(37:42):
a better, more mature future.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Oh no, well tell her you gave it up.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
But it wasn't a job interview. No, this just looks
like such a terrible, rotten existence.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Maybe Kevin's right, Maybe the gen Z people have figured
it out.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Loneliness is the way to go.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening today.
Have a great weekend. It's been Kennerley Casey on ninety
three WYBC
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