Kendall & Casey Hour 3, 9-5-2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why can't the politicians just be honest from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I don't know character flaw because do.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You see this all the time where they do something
you know it's just step one, you know what the
end result is gonna be? Yes, And instead of just saying, look,
this is step one and in five years there's where
we're going to be and think you have a good day,
they always will use words like pilot program or we're
gonna see how it does. I think about the taxpayer

(00:32):
funded preschool initiative under Pence, where they're like, it's just
a pilot program, it's whatever. It was a five year thing,
and by your and you're one like, okay, we're expanding it.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
But I thought it's a huge success.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
But I thought it was a pilot program. I thought
we were studying. I thought you were taking five years.
Here you are year one and you're just already expanding it.
Why did you just say we're doing this the same
thing now is going on.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We called this, Yes we did. I believe they call
that the trickle of truth. Rob little more comes.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Out these speed zone camera So WRTV has the article
that in dot has said, as we told you was
going to happen regardless of what the data showed. But
the data show what we thought it would show. That
they're going to expand these speed zones where there are
cameras SAMRA a revenue generating zone. Why don't we call

(01:20):
it what it is? Right around construction sites where there's
a camera, it will photograph you if you're going above
a certain speed, then there's a tiered thing where versus
a letter in the mail, and then you start getting
fines and then da da da, and in DOT is
saying well, we've seen a seventy percent reduction in excessive speeds.

(01:40):
Of course you have, which is what you were going
to get. If people know they're being watched, they're going
to do the thing. It's human nature, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
They said that the program was to help drivers slow
down and save lives and they called it a success.
So now in DOT expanding its Safe Zone Pilot program
and they're going to be adding more cameras in more
construction areas. They're going to add speed cameras back to
the I seventy construction zone in Hancock County between mile

(02:10):
markers one oh five and one oh nine, which is
near Greenfield, and also in Steuben County in northeast Indiana.
There's a construction zone on I eighty.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Okay, fine, but just do it. Stop acting like you
care about what the data says, like I mean, like
you're gonna do it. Just just do it. Here is
the one thing, and I've talked about this from the beginning,
that to me is a major concern because remember when
we went to the National Sports Convention in Chicago. Yeah,
and we went up sixty five. They were up there.
There was a patch that they're up there. I do

(02:43):
worry that they're you are creating potentially an unsafe environment. Okay,
So like when we went, there were no workers out there. Right,
you're in the speed zone, but there's no workers. Okay.
If the goal is to save lives, then you can't
have it if there's no workers. Just be honest, we're
trying to get revenue out of you if there's nobody working.
I mean, we went through that stretch and there was

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nobody out there. There were no lives to be saved.
There was just a bunch of cones. There's no work
being done. There were just a bunch of cones. And
now we're in a speed trap. So don't tell me
you're trying to save lives because there were no workers
out there working. If you're going to say to the
saved lives there's no workers out than there to be
a big sign that says the thing is off because
there's nobody working. It's the lack of candor and honesty

(03:24):
about what we're doing. The other thing I worry about
is there are certain areas and that stretch on four
sixty five is one of them where I'm mister paranoia
right Like, I'm a notorious rule follower, so I'm trying
to drive the exact speed limit, not even be up
where a misread could get you or whatever. Well, now
I feel like I'm putting myself potentially at.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Danger because you're going the speed limit the speed.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Limit when everybody else is still not going the speed limit,
and the fat behind you are potentially getting put in danger.
And I do worry that if you get too cute
with that, you're going to create an environment in which
you're actually starting to put people in danger, who others
or not. Everybody wants our workers to be protected. Nobody's
saying that, But don't tell me it's about saving workers' lives.
If clearly there's no construction work being done, and you

(04:08):
still have you're still going to find me and don't
just don't just tell me what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah. So and Thatt said they've seen around seventy percent
reduction and excessive speeds in the area. And I guess
according to them, excessive speed would be eleven miles per
hour or over, because that's the limit that they're saying
with these speed cameras. If you're driving eleven miles per
hour or more over the posted speed limit, you're going

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to receive this violation in the mail. And the first
one is a warning, the second violation is the seventy
five dollars fine, and then the third is a one
hundred and fifty dollars fine.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
So the other part of this is the neck I
fear the next step more so than the speed cameras
because I know where they're at and while it's nerve
racking for me to drive through them, because I got
you know, I got the OCD, and it's just very
it makes me very paranoid.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Do you smile as you drive by?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
The one that really does give me concern is that
the next step is going to be these red light cameras.
And here's why I say this, because they have fought
the red light cameras thus far in the state of Indiana.
But I lived near Port Wilmington for several years. When
I on my radio station, they had the red light cameras.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
They have them all over Washington, d C. And Baltimore
and last week and when I was there, you can
see them everywhere and they actually show your GPS will
tell you, oh, red light camera, next light.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
What if I don't have a GPS, Well, what if
I barely have an automobile? Just what if you have
a car that you have to use a key to
get into it. That's the other thing about my car.
It's like when I park somewhere, I locked my doors,
but it's like I would want anything in this car,
Like it's barely an automobile. It's like a Fred Flynnstone
car at this point. But the red light cameras really
scared me because I had I've experienced them then when

(05:55):
I was living near with Port Wilmington for a while
part time, and you got to be like a certain
percentage through the thing on a yellow light if in
order to not get hit, like the light can go
red but you've got to be through a presum like.
It was incredibly confusing, and I found myself probably being

(06:17):
a less safe driver because I was so hesitant on
whether to go or not go. Slam on the brakes,
don't slam on the brakes. The red light cameras are
the ones that really were be I can deal with
these because I know you see them whatever. I generally
drive within the ten anyway, But the red light cameras
are the ones that I think would cause a lot
of havocation.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, before you know, in DOT will have a pilot
program and they'll try it out for a few months
and then say it was a super success and we're
going to implement that across the state. Yes, absolutely, because
that's what they do. It's typical with government, right Ye're growing,
it's dying. We see that on every single level. Okay,
the jobs report coming out a little little shaky. Huh

(06:57):
not so many jobs?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh yeah, not not good. Yeah, So what was the
number of jobs added?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Say, fifty four thousand private sector jobs were added in August,
and that was below the seventy five thousand expectation.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, so it comes back to look, the economy was
never real under Biden because it was all and and
Trump was a part of this, even though he wasn't
president for most of it. These job numbers and growth
and stuff under Biden were ridiculous because the economy was
restarting after the shutdown, So you have to throw all that.
It wasn't real the money they were giving away money

(07:35):
to the people. I mean, like you can't. The economy
was never as good as they pretended it to be.
It was funny. I was reading some investment stuff the
other day and they were shown they were showing the
they were showing the track record of the S and
P over the past like five or six years, and
there have been massive swings in the S and P.

(07:56):
Like one year it was up twenty three percent, one
year was down twenty four percent. Now overall it had
gone up, certainly, but the wild swings. And in reading that,
one of the things that you realize is the economy
has just all artificially been produced the past five or
six years. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it.

(08:16):
We just threw a bunch of money at this and
went up. We threw a bunch of money at that
and went up. You know, there was suffering when the
reality would kick in. So none of it's real. So
we don't really know where the economy actually is because
so much of it has been on the backs of
government subsidies, the electric vehicle stuff, the green credits, saw,
all of this stuff. None of that's real. It's government created.
It's not real. It's not where the people are, it's

(08:37):
not what the people are buying. It was subsidized and
invented by the government. That's the first part of the equation.
A lot of that stuff has started to stop. The
second part is somebody told me this when I was
running for public office, and it has always stayed with me,
and it's always been true. The economy knows how to
deal with good news. It knows how to deal with
bad news. They're like cockroaches, and you know, in a

(08:57):
nuclear holocaust, the cockroaches will find a way to survive.
What they don't deal well with is uncertainty. And Trump
keeps creating mass uncertainty because of the instability related to
these tariffs and what he is or isn't going to do.
He would have been far better served if he wanted
to create stability in the economy to come out with

(09:18):
the plan, release the plan, boom, done, here we go,
good bad whatever. Society will adjust around it. But when
you keep now there's tariffs on these people, now there's not.
Now there's tariffs on these people. Now there's not. You've
got a thirty day period. Oh, now we're extending an
additional thirty days. The economy does not know what the
final thing is going to be. And when they don't

(09:39):
know what the final thing is going to be, they
don't know how to manipulate the rules, because that's what
they do, right, whatever the rules are. They've got accountants,
they've got lawyers, they've got ways to get around it.
But if they don't know what the rules are going
to be, they don't know how to manipulate them, and
thus they just don't participate.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So this morning it came out that Donald Trump wants
the Supreme Court to rule quickly on whether most of
his tariffs are legal. So he's going down that road.
I thought I saw something where he just announced another
tariff on another country or changed the tariff number. I mean,
it's Friday, so of course he changed a number because

(10:16):
it's a day that ends in why, But that contributes
to all of this is the economic uncertainty and some
of the other key factors impacting the job growth. They're
citing the labor shortages and also artificial intelligence adoption. There
were some key industries that saw losses. Trade, transportation and

(10:39):
utility surprising lost seventeen thousand jobs. Education and health services
lost twelve thousand jobs, But leisure and hospitality actually added
jobs fifty thousand jobs, which kind of offset some of
the losses. That surprises me because you're hearing stories about
Las Vegas. Is nobody's traveling leisure. You know, people are

(11:03):
saving because of all of this economic uncertainty, Yet that
is the area that saw some growth.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I think people are just still doing stuff, though maybe
they're not doing stuff in the sense of we're going
on cross country trips like they once did. But I
think post COVID people are like, hey, they'll shut us
down again at some point. I'm just going to do
all the things I want to do. Right before we
got to endure whatever. The thing we got to endure
again is.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
There was another report that came out that's unemployed workers
outnumber available jobs for the first time since twenty twenty one.
There are less job openings than job seekers.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think you've got major instability in the economy. But
I think there's been major instability in the economy for years.
I think it's been masked by the magical money printing factory,
the subsidies, the giveaways, the tax incentives, and at some
point we got to get the economy to where it
actually is so we know how to build on that.
And until Trump comes up with some consistent plan as

(12:02):
it relates to these tariffs, and what is he actually
trying to accomplish, that's the bigger question. Like he's doing
the stuff with India now right, and that's about China
and about Russia. Okay, but do you think you're gonna
break India over some terrors? Like I just don't. I
don't see it happening. Maybe he'll be proven right in

(12:23):
the end, but I think he is playing with fire
and the fact that he's trying to screw all of
us by lowering these interest rates. I mean, if you check,
it's kind of fun for me. That's what I do
in my spare time to check, like what CDs and
bonds and stuff are paying. It's not good because they're

(12:43):
anticipating again that they're going to cut these interest rates
and it's making your money worth less. You're getting screwed
if you're a stable person. If you're a stable person,
you should actually be cheering for higher interest rates because
it makes your money worth more, and you're getting the
exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
If you're a stable person, raise your hand, because there's
to be less and less of few. It is Kendall
and Casey on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
This is a fascinating story. Casey, a guy from Indianapolis
whose name is Mark Zuckerberg. Yes, is suing Mark Zuckerberg.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, he's an attorney here and clearly they share a name.
He claims that Meta has repeatedly disabled his Facebook accounts,
both personal and business, at least five times over the
past eight years.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So this guy, he's like I said, his name is
his name is Mark Steven Zuckerberg. The real Mark Zuckerberg,
not the real the famous Mark Zuckerberg is Mark Elliott Zuckerberg.
And by the way, there's a whole bunch you can
look this up. That's a fascinating story. Whr here locally
is covered that many others have. Two national media's covered this,
and so what they've what the issue? This guy has

(13:57):
is that Facebook, Meta, whateveryone call it keeps shutting down
his pages because they accuse him of impersonating a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Not using his authentic name as well. And he said
that he's provided his driver's license, credit card information, facial images,
and yet they still keep doing it. And here's the
problem is the Indiana Mark Zuckerberg has been paying into
the advertising program on Facebook and Meta to promote his

(14:34):
law office. Yeah, so he's paying them ad money and
yet they still keep shutting him down.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, and so this hits on a broader thing, which
is how how entwined we are now with social media,
or at least you know some people. Look, there are
people who just use social media to post pictures of
their kids or whatever, and that's fine, but there are
a big portion of the economy now is people existing

(15:05):
on social media running these sorts of advertisements like his
business plan. It used to be you'd find this guy
in the Yellow Pages, right, you know, did they even
do a Yellow Pages anywhere? Is that even a thing?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I knew a guy who worked for the Yellow Pages.
He actually worked for phone books. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do they still get to live, I don't know. That's
why I asked you, I don't know. I don't know
if I can't remember the last time that got delivered.
But there used to be this guy would exist through
a direct mailer to people or in the phone book,
and that was a lot of people's business plan. Right.
I need an attorney, I need a bankruptcy attorney, I
need a whatever. You know, you'd look it up and
you'd find names, and you start calling people and whatever.

(15:42):
But now, because you know, everybody's on social media, and
the social media advertising has reached a point where it's
so targeted you can hit the people really that you're
really trying to hit, this guy is behind the eight
ball compared to his competition now because he can't keep
a page up.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, it's not only businesses that advertise on Facebook or Meta.
Some businesses are completely run on social media. By the way,
the answer to your question about the phone book, do
phone books still get delivered in twenty twenty five? Yes,
but rarely? But did you know you can opt out

(16:23):
of delivery. It's called the National Yellow Pages Consumer Choice
and Opt Out Site. It's called what the National Yellow
Pages Consumer Choice and Opt Out site, So you can
go online and click no, thank you to having the
phone book delivered to your front porch.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's like the little super simple song that Livy does,
Please no, thank you, please No. Think that's pretty wild.
I wonder how that even stays in business anymore. I mean,
because obviously was centered around advertising. And who would I
mean what, I would love to know what percentage of
the population does not have the ability to look something

(17:04):
up on the internet now at their fingertips, Like I'm
not like, you know anything you need, Like when my
fridge went down, okay, refrigerator repair Indianappolis, boom, here's you
know seven or eight people you can call who doesn't
do that anymore?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I would like to invite Indiana's Mark Zuckerberg. You
could advertise here on WYBC.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We do get a lot of people, although we have
fine financial stewards. So I don't know how many people
are needing a bankruptcy attorney and that what he is
is a bankruptcy attorney. I don't know what kind of
attorney he is, but anyway, that is wild. How the
economy has changed to the point where this guy is
being he's a bankruptcy attorney, that this guy's life is

(17:48):
being disrupted because you can't get on the Facebook.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, it's being reported as an active investigation. Have you
ever been confused with somebody else? Like I'll give you example,
Jim my husband. At one point somebody was under credit collections.
Oh different middle name, Oh yeah, different middle name, initial everything.
But yet they kept calling us and sending letters, well

(18:15):
letters to him, right, We're like, this isn't.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Us, Yeah, not the wrong guy, no matter how many
times you tell them. Oh do you want to hear
a wacky story about things not making sense?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So did I tell this about the fridge? I did
tell this about the fridge, about the fridge not being
delivered deliverable.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Oh it came though we never we never got an update.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know when I went to the Costco and they
wouldn't deliver the fridge.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Right, and they said they were going to look, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Fridge is in. It's fine, Okay, I hoped. I hope
the guys put it in.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It was delivered.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
It was delivered, no problem. No, I went to another place.
But like, is that isn't that so weird? How you'll
get into vortex where like you're saying with this or
that chair is so loud. Why is it so loud?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Some WD four.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Anyway, I'm very easy to work with, except I just
got a couple little quirks.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, so easy.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I let Casey pick whatever she wants to talk about.
But I just I like if my things are not
where they're supposed to be. Or I'm very very susceptible
to hearing noises. I'm this way in my house too,
Like I very noisy.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You must be a delight to sleep next to you
at night.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
The uh, Like it is weird how you'll get into
vortex of clearly something doesn't make sense or isn't right,
like see your thing? You know, these things keeping getting
sent you keep calling them, and it would be pretty
easy for somebody to go, you know, I'm Jim Bobby,
you know, and he's Jim Aaron or whatever. Oh yes,
we see that. Thank you, Sorry to bother you click

(19:52):
click click, get you out of the system.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, but when it comes to the credit collections, that's
the number they had, so they're going to continue to
call that number or the or like.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
The guy at the Costco was like, I've been on
the phone with him. They have no logical explanation why
we can't enaim on deliver a fridge to Brownsburg. Well
can they just put it will be delivered. Yeah, they're
going to look into doing that, and then they never did.
There's no logical explanations, like if there's a reason, okay,
but of course there is none, because probably a cleric layer.
And it's just crazy. You can get one of those
vortexas and you can't get out of it.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I saw this article, this say is why so many
employees are crying out of work. If you cry at ork, no,
you cry on your way to work.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Oh, we're gonna take a break. Let's take a break
and discuss that. We come back.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Like, what are you doing on that computer?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm closing out some of the windows?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like how many do you have opened? Like forty three?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No? Three? Ten?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Why do you have ten windows open? What do you
need ten windows open for? I?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, clearly I just closed a bunch outs.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, and that thing stopped sounding like about to explode
every time.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You do that. It's not me, it's the computer, I understand.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
But if you know we have a crappy ass computer
that you're using, and you can't. Look. I'm not saying
it's fair to you. I'm just saying, if you know,
if you have more than three tabs open, that thing
sounds like a nuclear bomb that's about to go off.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Don't complain to me, complain to engineering.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm complaining to you because you know the circumstances and
you have it all on paper. Anyway, No, I don't. Well,
you don't have it today, That's that's right. Yes, Casey
came in screaming about her I'm not working this morning,
and I was like, what do you need? Nine red
m and ms too, like, okay, share, give you a rest?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes my contract?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Uh anyway, that's very loud, but it seems to stop
since you closed ten tabs.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's Daily Mail. Daily Mail always is the craziest website.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's still going, is it. I don't know if you
can people can hear that on the air like that.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Is no, but you know what you can hear Just
be quiet for a second. Okay, listen to this.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Got a buzz?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's me turning my microphone off.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah that's odd, But I don't know people can hear
that either. Anyway, we can hear it, all right, So
what about people crying at work? What what's going on?
I thought you were going to tell me while I
was going to But I think the crying at work
is more interesting. I want to get to that first.
And I'm so distracted I'm about to cry computer so loud.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm about to cry at work.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, well you got two segments to go, lady, and
then you don't have to hear from me for two days.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Nearly half of people who work in person or hybrid
workers have cried at work.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
What's the what's the step?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Fifty percent of people likedit work. I have cried at work,
and if you go strictly to a remote worker, the
number jumps to seventy percent.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well, yeah, of course you've cried in your house if
you're a remote worker.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
They say that crying stems from stress, personal issues, or
passion for work. You're so worked up, you want to
do such a good job that you cry.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I used to be worked up about this place, and
then I recognized, Hey, it's just whatever's going to happen
is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's true, I.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Mean, and part of I think you find as you
get older.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
You got to let it go.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean, you know, my wife and I had
this conversation the other night and we were talking about
it a couple of different things, and I said, look,
part of you know, she's entering, like not to say
she wasn't an adult previously, but like the adult phase
of life, in which I've always said the window for
a dude is like twenty seven to thirty one. If

(23:25):
you're a single guy like Kevin, is right, because you
have all this disposable income. You or you should have
some level of disposable income. You're smart enough to be.
You've been through the ringer a little bit. You've seen
kind of how good society works. You've seen how successful
people work. You kind of can see through people that
are just going to be an absolute waste of your time.
Like you just you have all those things going for you.

(23:47):
You're young enough to participate in the fun side of society.
But somebody told me this, They said what I was
when I was turning twenty six. They said, twenty six
was the year that it all came together for them.
When this person was talking to me about about life
and looking back on it, that's right. I think twenty
six is like a movement year because you sort of
phase out of the idealism of your adolescence and then

(24:10):
you start to see the world for what it is
and you see through the posers and just all of that. Right,
And so it's interesting when when you sort of look
at your job, like if you if you can take
that ability to process things and look at your job,
you do sort of start to realize there's only certain

(24:31):
things in your job that are within your control that
you have some direct influence over, and then the rest
of it just kind of have to smile and say, Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, gotta let it go. Like, for example, if you
have a computer that's not cooperating very loud, it's not
in your control. You just gotta let it go. Some
of the common triggers.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, if you're contributing
to that by having ten tabs open, that is within
your control.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Some of the common triggers for crying at work include
heavy workloads, conflict with co workers, personal problems, sudden changes,
and poor communication.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean, like you know, I think we've talked
about this with this job before. I was the fill
in guy, the permanent fill in guy, for what about
three years, three and three years here, four almost four years,
and I was the producer. And the whole time you're
sitting there, you're like, if I just work a little harder,
if I just do this a little better, Like I

(25:32):
can make a show work on my own, but I
got to show these guys that you can do it,
that I can do it. And and the way I'll
show him is I'll do every show over the course
of the day. If you need me, I'll fill in
on every shot. And it just it wasn't happening. To
the point we've talked about this before. I was ready
to take another job and call it, call it a
day here, And you know when I got the show,
when when somebody else left?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, and they're just like when the opening happened.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Rob's here, Maklek's working with Rob. He's put him in
and we made it work, right. But the point is
all of that stuff was beyond my control from the
standpoint of there just weren't any shows to give. And
you keep trying to jam a square peg into a
round hole, and that's a super stressful thing, right, Like,
why am I not getting this? I know I can
do this, I know I can make this work. We

(26:15):
clearly have right. But that now at my age now
and going through all this stuff, you process that. Like
in your work environment, there are things that are within
your control. For us, it's the show we do every
single day. Do we produce quality content every single day.
Everything else, it's somebody else's choice, it's somebody else's call.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Out of your control.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Some of the risks for crying at work can impact
your career progression, like for example, when you weren't getting
the gig that you wanted, did you cry? No?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I didn't cry.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You just left frustrated.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
You know, you know, you know me, Casey, I just
compartmentalized things and just rot on the inside. I don't
ever showed out the outside.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Crying at work can also lead to awkwardness, misunderstanding, and
biased judgments. They say, if you do feel yourself getting upset,
you and you just need to shift your focus, take
a break, reframe it, or get support if that's what
you really need.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, you've got to decide whether you're content with whatever
you've got. And I think in our sort of instant
gratification culture that we live in now, of which social
media is a major part of that, I think that
the it's harder for people to slog through things than

(27:30):
it used to be. It's also harder for people to
process a game plan of how do I make this better?
And that's really what you've got to do. You've got
to decide whatever environment you're in, am I willing to
accept or tolerate or whatever word you want, where this
is at for the foreseeable future. If the answer is no,
then you need to start looking somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You need to make a change. Speaking of work, Forbes
has released their twenty twenty five list of America's Best
in state employers. Indiana's number one spot belongs to Wait, wait,
what's the question? The best employer in the state of
Indianay the company?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
M hm oh, they'll probably give it to someone like Lily.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
University of Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh yeah, really yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
They did this survey and they surveyed more than one
hundred and sixty thousand US employees. To qualify, the companies
had to have at least five hundred workers and they
asked them questions company related questions like workplace culture, pay,
career growth, how the employers handled different issues, and University
of Notre Dame came out on top, followed by Hilton

(28:36):
Worldwide Holdings, Community Health Network, JP, Morgan, Caterpillar, Rolls, Royce Eli.
Lilly was then also on the list. Okay, so so
is Cummins.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
You've worked a lot of places.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I've worked at some different media outlets over the years.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Oh work time? Have you found like at forty, would
you have judged whether someplace is a quality place to
work differently than you would have a thirty? Like did
you have different standards by which you judged whether somewhere
was a quality place to work?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Sure? Absolutely, because your life path is different over time
when you're for example, at one point in my career,
it was much more about time and balancing that so
that I could also be a good mom and my
daughter wasn't in daycare all day, and then when she

(29:27):
was in school, my focus was how much you paying me?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Right? Yeah, that's interesting. And see I struggled with this
because I never worked for anybody for a long period
of time. And then my first real experience of working
with people was the government, which was horrible because I
was in constant concert They're not on the list, Yeah
I was. I was just in constant conflict with the

(29:51):
people above me. Because they were screwing the taxpayers and
I was outraged. So it made the whole work environment
just just a horribly hard thing to participate in. And
I don't really like I know, I work for someone here,
but I don't really feel like we work for someone.
I think that's why I do so well here because
they just leave us alone.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, they do, and that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
When I worked at the golf course, one of the
reasons I took that job is I knew they would
show me how to do the job. Then they would
leave me alone go do the job like they knew.
Like this guy's compety, he can bartend, he can run
the cash register. It's not a rocket science thing.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I would have a hard time being micromanaged.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, being an environment I managed devise well.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
That's the mark of a good leader. Hire good people
and let them do their job. Other companies on the
list Ivy Tech Community College, you also have Salesforce Center.
Grove Community School Corporation made the list.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
But I think what I would consider micromanaging is probably
normal behavior in most office.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Environment in America.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean, I don't know because I've never been there,
but like we literally when I say we are, they
leave us alone. I mean I go see our immediate boss,
Matt Hiblin at the end of every show. Hey, man,
anything when you talk about okay, see, we have a
scheduled meeting once a week with our main boss, David
would That usually lasts fifteen or twenty minutes to go
over everything. And then they'll send us emails every so

(31:14):
often with suggestions on things. But they're just like, hey,
these guys do really well, let's just leave them alone.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, that's the thing. If you're performing, yes, the higher
good people, let them do their job. If you're not
performing up to the standards the expectations that they want,
you'd probably be having a lot more meeting.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Like, I could not work in an environment where you
had to, on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Have their morning stand up. Yeah, what a morning stand up?
Let's check in. That's what a lot of companies do.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh Like, everybody stands up and says what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
What it's called? Yeah, no kidding, you see see what
happens out there in the real world. Rob Kendall.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. I'm not sure I
could function in the real world. I don't like if
I always say like, what would you do here? I
would probably go back to the golf course.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
What is it you say you do?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I would probably bartend. Being an Uber driver might be fun,
but I would I would be very hard.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
For You would get passengers who would be like, no conversation,
shut up, I'm just trying to get to the airport.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I don't think my car is even eligible for Uber.
Isn't there a standard for an Uber car? Like it
has to be a certain there should be. I mean
you have to have an electric windows. Probably have taken
a lot of ubers. You should strike me as a
sort of international traveler that is a familiar with the
uber lyft world. There's a standard for the cars. Yeah,
I think you have to have it.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Can't be too old, like you have to have.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I'm serious. I don't think my car would be eligible
for the You.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Have an engine and a transmission.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Can we talk it up next? Look, I hate to
do this because it's our last segment together the week,
but you've been a real prima donna today. Can we
talk about that when we come back?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
You are so full of it and we'll point that out.
Coming up from ninety three w IBC some'm stuck in
a goal. I'm just traveling up.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
You know, you were a real prima donna today.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I was not.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
You were to I did not.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Print projected, Oh we're gonna go out on a Friday
having a fight. Come on, Kendall, bring it on. I
did not sound like that. I just said I couldn't
get the printer to work today.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
This fascinates me that in your mind it's still nineteen
eighty eight and you print the template.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Every I do because I like to take notes as
your rantingcha, I'll write down a word here and there
that reminds me of something that I want to contribute.
And I also x things off as we go to
kind of keep track of what we have and haven't
talked about.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I wonder how the printer industry is doing.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Probably not so great, is it he moves to digital?
You know, I was recently asked that, like, how do
I keep myself organized? Is it all digital? Or do
I use paper? And you know, it's kind of like
a combination of the two right now. Yeah, I'm one
of those people like I would keep dunder Mifflin in business.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, have you seen the new office? Have you
watched it yet it can you? No, I haven't have
you the paper.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I saw a trailer and it looked horrendous.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Isn't that where they moved the office to another location
or it's a branch.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I don't know. I saw a trailer and it looked horrible,
and like, if you can't even make the trailer look funny, yeah,
just leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
If you're not gonna do it. And even if you.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Brought the original roove on it, it's already good.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Even if you brought the original people back. That was
like twelve years ago that show went off the air, right, So.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
If anybody who hasn't seen it to get the original idea,
they'd have to go back and watch that.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Sure, right, But it's like these people are all older
now to blah blah blah. But I wonder if, in
light of how the the struggles the post office is
having well documented, if the printer industry is like basically
the same thing. And I also wonder, in the budget
cutting world in which we live, at some point, if

(35:10):
there's just gonna be like no more printers.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
No more printers. Well, they've moved all the paper up
to the fifth floor. There's a huge note about the
printer that's like paper. Fifth floor by reception. Is there
reception up there? Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I don't think there's a reception is. No, there's no
reception is But there is the area, yes, the area
where no one will greet you, where there's an area
to greet you.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You used to walk up there and say, Hi, how
are you? How can I help you?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Isn't that fascinating too? And I'm sure this is true
in many industries. So for those who don't know, we're
at forty Monument Circle in downtown Indianapolis, and our building
is a seven story building. But basically every floor other
than the first and the top floors largely mirror each other.
That's not exactly right, but at least the footprint four,

(35:58):
five and six. I guess you would say mirror each other.
And there was a time where there are things of
a bike on era where you're right. This building I
believe was built in the late nineties. There is an
area where someone who would have been the receptionist. Yeah,
when you got off on that floor, whether you were
here to go to WIBC or the other properties. At

(36:18):
one point, mister small and Indideanapolis monthly. I don't know
if he still does. But no, I think they're out
of here. I think they must have sold that to
I don't know anyway. Point is, all of these floors
have reception areas for someone to greet you. And now,
like on our floor, it's just a bunch of stuff
and the engineer guys use it to tinker with the technotoy.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's a storage area.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, they leave old equipment there that's never used.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
So you do wonder, like what other jobs, say, ten
years from now, a new generation of workers.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Will be say existent.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, then people will go what was that for? What
sort of why did that thing exist?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
It just disappeared. Well, there are still a few professions
that I think will always be around, like doctors and
nurses and teachers.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Speaking of doctors, somebody told me this, and they're in
the medical professions. I have no reason to doubt them.
Like they they are a medical professional. They said. AI
is getting to the point where the next step for
AI with medicine is that AI will transcribe the conversation
you have with the doctor and diagnose you. No, okay,

(37:34):
they will edit out all the non medical chatter. So
you know, when the when you see the doctor, they
upload information in your portal, shut up, broken toe, prescribed whatever. Right,
then they'll just put all the information. You know, it's
a it's a very high level thing of what was
discussed and what the treatment plan is and blah blah blah.

(37:56):
But they're saying the new thing with AI is they'll
be able to record the conversation and then AI on
its own, we'll be able to cut out all the
non medical banter back and forth with you and the
doctor and then upload that and that will be the
way medical information gets transcribed going forward.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Why would you need the non medical words when you're
at the doctor, aren't those the important words? So what
it's good be transcribed to the A No, I'm too times.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Add out all the non medical information. So all of
that stuff, the weather, the conversation about the weather, you're life.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, so it will only con that's right.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
The only thing that will upload is right, whatever is
related to the medical part of the conversation. Yeah, that
seems very creepy to mean. Now, this person is a
very libertarian type doctor. They didn't seem overly creeped out
about it. But to me, that's very concerning.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Uh well, I know that a lot of people are
turning to AI to figure out what is wrong with them.
I wish that I was at the doctor's office yesterday.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
How to go?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You want to know what I did?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
One foot?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Are you one foot in a grave of another? Put
on a bana peel a. You're gonna be around for
a while, I hope.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So. I mean, I'll have to check my portal and
see what the test results in getting Well, you know what,
I'm a woman and I love that age where I
have to go and get the boob smashed once.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, how'd that go? But but you think it went fine?
I hope so well.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I mean, all indications say I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Very good. Well, that's very exciting. I'm too glad.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm glad you're smashing and cake.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
They just lower that thing down on there and it's
like ten seconds of deep breathing.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Just get through aad, you know, somebody that's their career.
Though I know we smashed the bast she.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Was very nice. By the way, I've got this just
got to be so awkward for them as well, because
they have to lift that up there, and anyway, on
a Friday, I'm going to leave you thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Thanks a lot, you have a blessed weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Thanks Rob, Thanks Kevin, and thank you for listening. Have
a great weekend. It's been the Lecasey on ninety three WIBC.