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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
There's so much about this Mark Sanchez story that fascinates
me beyond belief. Remember, out like every weekend, our promo
is the same.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have no idea we're going to talk about Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're counting on the politicians to do something stupid. Well,
this time it wasn't a politician. It's a sports star.
And I have questions, I have thoughts, But the most
interesting thing to me, casey, and then I will let
you come swooping in with whatever hot take you have
(00:36):
on this is the amount of people. Okay, First of all,
never delete a tweet unless it's for grammar or spelling,
like I'll do this. Sometimes I'll post something and go, oh,
I've misspelled that. I'm not letting the grammar police people
get me, pull it down, make the change, put it
back up. But I'm not deleting the thought. It's not
like I'm embarrassed or whatever. So to the Governor and
(00:58):
Lieutenant governor, stop deleting tweets. You look like idiots, and
you look like you're giving in on whatever the thing is.
Worst case, leave it up, retweet it, explain it whatever.
But you look like gutless cowards when you become delete
tweet guy.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, But.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The most fascinating thing about the whole weekend for me
is these people who are so bizarrely vested in trying
to convince everyone that Indianapolis is a safe place to be,
that they were taking some sort of victory lap that
Mark Sanchez allegedly was the aggressor rather than the person
(01:40):
being aggressed against.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And it's like, what a weird, bizarre flex that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is some sort of vindication to you in your
mental gymnastic mind that somehow this first because it was
Mark Santez allegedly rather than the other guy, that Indianapolis
that will become some sort of safe place to live.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So in regards to Governor Brown's tweet, it was great
up until the very last line. He said, I've been
clear city leaders must do their jobs and hold criminals accountable.
Right on, when Indianapolis headlines national news for a lack
of public safety, it hurts our city and our state.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Right on, Hoosiers deserve better.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Correct, Everything was great, and then he said, praying for
a full recovery from Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It was just to jump the gun just a little
bit on that part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But to your point, he could have come out and
said thoughts and prayers for the victim as well, and
it would have been fine. Now you've got Ryan Mehres
coming out and he's talking, and now we've got a
feud going on between the governor and Rick Snyder from
the FOP and the Marion County Prosecutor's office, and everybody's saying, oh,
(02:48):
now you've got Ryan Mehers talking, right, because it wasn't
the prosecutor's office that made a mistake, it wasn't the
IMPD that made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
It was something else.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And now he's talking because this is a national story
and he's got to get his face out there now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, and you gave him a win by leading the tweet.
All you had.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What I had to do is retweet the thing and say, hey, Sanchez,
the aggressor Indianapolis is still super violent. This guy allegedly
was super violent. And it doesn't matter whether it's a
celebrity or whatever. We just keep seeing one headline after
another about violence in the city of Indianapol.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
When you woke up Saturday morning and you saw the
headline about somebody being stabbed downtown, you thought well, yeah, okay,
that's on par You weren't surprised by that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, And it's like the people who are flexing on
go CCCCC.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, it's no different than when the judges what this been.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Were you here when the judges thing happened when the
judges were outside the strip club?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Was that before you? Okay, so this has been several
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
There were these judges who are in town for some
sort of conference. Allegedly they had been having a little
bit of fun, like Indiana judges. There's a judge's conference
or whatever, and very early in the morning, they're outside
a local dancing establishment and they get lippy with some person.
(04:17):
I'm trying to do this all from memory now it's
been several years ago. And then some physical altercation takes
place and people are injured, and you know, the response
on that, of course, was well, Indianapolis is super violent,
which it is, no doubt, blah blah blah. But then
you realize, hey, everybody was kind of an a hole
in the situation. It seemed like, and I'm trying to
(04:38):
remember the news reports off the top of my head,
and some bad stuff happened, but the point is it
was a black eye, another high profile act of violence
happening in the city of Indianapolis, which further feeds the
narrative right.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And so.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I just found that the most fascinating thing that there
were people who were vehemently trying to I do like
some sort of victory lap or the fact that it
was allegedly Sanchez being the aggressor rather than this guy
who appears to have gotten just the victim of some
guy being totally out of control. It's like, no, it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who the aggressor was. It's
(05:16):
another time Indianapolis is making the news over a high
profile act of violence. And whether it was Sanchez or
the other guy or the man in the moon, Indianapolis
is a hyper dangerous place and like a lot of
the people, the WIBC, the conservative media guys are afraid
to go out.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's like, no, I used to come downtown all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I can vividly remember ten years ago walking at three
in the morning from a mass av back to downtown
and not thinking a thing about it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You wouldn't do that today. Never.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Like I am out of here by ten thirty.
On the rare occasion I come down in the evening,
I'm out of here by ten thirty. Why, because nothing
good happens in this city. You can't even say after
midnight happens or midnight a lot of the time now.
So I'm not some guy who's like, oh, I'm so
afraid of Indianapolis. No, I just know the reality of it.
But I know what the city wants was. I know
(06:10):
it's a place that used to enjoy coming. It was
a place that, under Ballard as mayor, used to be
a relatively safe place to go, especially if you behaved
in a certain shape, form or fashion and knew where
to walk and not walk, and it was all fine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You'd never do that now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So for the people are trying to do some victory
lap because it was Mark Sanchez allegedly being the aggressor
rather than this this guy who appears to be the victim. No,
nothing's changed. This place is still a cesspool of awful.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I live downtown in Indianapolis, and I don't go out
after eight pm when the sun goes down. I don't
go out because I just I don't feel safe. And
there have been times where I wanted to run up
to the gas station, maybe buy a candy bar.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And the dude won't let me go by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nope, I'm going with you or go for me, because
we are so used to the stories of the crime
in this city. Now, how about Governor Braun clapping back
to Ryan Meres saying, if one deleted tweet finally gets
Ryan Mears to start paying attention to the violent crime
epidemic in our capital city, putting violent criminals behind bars
and keeping Indianapolis safe, then I will start deleting more tweets.
(07:22):
He's saying that the deleted tweet got the attention of
Ryan Meres.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And if that's all, he'll do that more often.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you look like a Braun looks like a total whimp.
And his little assistant, Micah, also did the same thing.
Who said same, Yeah, that's Micah's response after he deleted
a tweet. Same what a tough guy price. By the way,
can someone explain to me from the Lieutenant Governor's office? Anyone,
Caitlin Graham, any of you people send me you know
(07:49):
how to get ahold of me?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Rob at WIBC dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can any of you people or the new guy they've
hired as the communications director, whoever any of you people,
why the Lieutenant governor refuses to comment on the IED audit?
Can someone from that office explain to me we are
on what day five to six? Why the Lieutenant governor
who literally ran I heard him give the speeches I
heard him in the debate about what a rotten, terrible,
(08:13):
underhanded organization the IEDC is. And then there's an audit
that proves exactly what he said.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And now he's quiet, This guy who can't.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Sprint to the nearest camera fast the one time he
was actually right about something.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Who is he afraid of?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Is he getting his marching orders from the governor right
he has to?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
At this point, he's clearly very afraid of doing anything
that's going to piss brought up, which also leads us
to the interesting thing that Mica and his people know
the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating their office allegedly
for a variety of things. But we know at least
one thing they're investigating because it's been confirmed, and that
moron or whoever is in charge of his social media
(08:53):
is getting mouthy with the Marion County Prosecutor, who holds
your fate and future in his hands. But because they
have the political sense of a NAT, they're getting mouthy
with the guy who's going to decide what happens to
your office. What a brilliant maneuver by those people over there.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Can we talk about who the big winner was over
the weekend in regards to this story. If you want
to say there was a winner, it was Angela Ganotte
who was reporting on this right away, and she took
a lot of heat for just reporting the facts, putting
out the police report. She was like, just wait until
the whole story comes out, and then it finally did,
(09:30):
and she was right all along.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what do we just want to, like, hyprob before
we go to break. Let it know where we're at
on this. So he has he being Mark Sanchez has
posted bond?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The New York Post is reporting that he was discharged
from the hospital and he has reportedly posted a three
hundred dollars cash bond before being formally booked.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, So if he was going to do an act
of violence, he's come to the right place. He's done
it in the right city, because we don't take violence
serious here in the city of Indianapolis. Are they all
still misdemeanor charges because the like Max Lewis and some
other people posted photos of the victim or the alleged victim.
How is that they're all missed a meaning? How is
(10:17):
that possible?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It looks like it should be more than that, doesn't
it because those pictures.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Were off Holy smokes?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, feel feel awful for him. He apparently, it seems,
was just trying to do his job and didn't hear
Mark Sanchez at first because he didn't have his hearing
aids in.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And why was Mark Sanchez in an alley?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
What's he doing back there?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
These are things they're gonna come that are to come
very very quickly. I think a lot of this stuff's
gonna start to come out because none of it makes
any sense.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Look, when he was discharged from the hospital yesterday morning,
he was immediately taken to the Marion County Jail for
central book.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah alright, so, and it's I think sanch his court
appearance is tomorrow, correct, like tomorrow morning?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Is uh? Is his quarter Parens
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
There's so much about this Mark Sanchez story that fascinates
me beyond belief. Remember, out like every weekend, our promo
is the same.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We have no idea we're going to talk about Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're counting on the politicians to do something stupid. Well,
this time it wasn't a politician. It's a sports star.
And I have questions, I have thoughts, But the most
interesting thing to me, casey, and then I will let
you come swooping in with whatever hot take you have
(00:36):
on this is the amount of people. Okay, First of all,
never delete a tweet unless it's for grammar or spelling,
like I'll do this. Sometimes I'll post something and go, oh,
I've misspelled that. I'm not letting the grammar police people
get me, pull it down, make the change, put it
back up. But I'm not deleting the thought. It's not
like I'm embarrassed or whatever. So to the Governor and
(00:58):
Lieutenant governor, stop deleting tweets. You look like idiots, and
you look like you're giving in on whatever the thing is.
Worst case, leave it up, retweet it, explain it whatever.
But you look like gutless cowards when you become delete
tweet guy.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, But.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The most fascinating thing about the whole weekend for me
is these people who are so bizarrely vested in trying
to convince everyone that Indianapolis is a safe place to be,
that they were taking some sort of victory lap that
Mark Sanchez allegedly was the aggressor rather than the person
(01:40):
being aggressed against.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And it's like, what a weird, bizarre flex that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is some sort of vindication to you in your
mental gymnastic mind that somehow this first because it was
Mark Santez allegedly rather than the other guy, that Indianapolis
that will become some sort of safe place to live.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So in regards to Governor Brown's tweet, it was great
up until the very last line. He said, I've been
clear city leaders must do their jobs and hold criminals accountable.
Right on, when Indianapolis headlines national news for a lack
of public safety, it hurts our city and our state.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Right on, Hoosiers deserve better.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Correct, Everything was great, and then he said, praying for
a full recovery from Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It was just to jump the gun just a little
bit on that part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But to your point, he could have come out and
said thoughts and prayers for the victim as well, and
it would have been fine. Now you've got Ryan Mehres
coming out and he's talking, and now we've got a
feud going on between the governor and Rick Snyder from
the FOP and the Marion County Prosecutor's office, and everybody's saying, oh,
(02:48):
now you've got Ryan Mehers talking, right, because it wasn't
the prosecutor's office that made a mistake, it wasn't the
IMPD that made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
It was something else.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And now he's talking because this is a national story
and he's got to get his face out there now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, and you gave him a win by leading the tweet.
All you had.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What I had to do is retweet the thing and say, hey, Sanchez,
the aggressor Indianapolis is still super violent. This guy allegedly
was super violent. And it doesn't matter whether it's a
celebrity or whatever. We just keep seeing one headline after
another about violence in the city of Indianapol.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
When you woke up Saturday morning and you saw the
headline about somebody being stabbed downtown, you thought well, yeah, okay,
that's on par You weren't surprised by that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, And it's like the people who are flexing on
go CCCCC.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, it's no different than when the judges what this been.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Were you here when the judges thing happened when the
judges were outside the strip club?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Was that before you? Okay, so this has been several
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
There were these judges who are in town for some
sort of conference. Allegedly they had been having a little
bit of fun, like Indiana judges. There's a judge's conference
or whatever, and very early in the morning, they're outside
a local dancing establishment and they get lippy with some person.
(04:17):
I'm trying to do this all from memory now it's
been several years ago. And then some physical altercation takes
place and people are injured, and you know, the response
on that, of course, was well, Indianapolis is super violent,
which it is, no doubt, blah blah blah. But then
you realize, hey, everybody was kind of an a hole
in the situation. It seemed like, and I'm trying to
(04:38):
remember the news reports off the top of my head,
and some bad stuff happened, but the point is it
was a black eye, another high profile act of violence
happening in the city of Indianapolis, which further feeds the
narrative right.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And so.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I just found that the most fascinating thing that there
were people who were vehemently trying to I do like
some sort of victory lap or the fact that it
was allegedly Sanchez being the aggressor rather than this guy
who appears to have gotten just the victim of some
guy being totally out of control. It's like, no, it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who the aggressor was. It's
(05:16):
another time Indianapolis is making the news over a high
profile act of violence. And whether it was Sanchez or
the other guy or the man in the moon, Indianapolis
is a hyper dangerous place and like a lot of
the people, the WIBC, the conservative media guys are afraid
to go out.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's like, no, I used to come downtown all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I can vividly remember ten years ago walking at three
in the morning from a mass av back to downtown
and not thinking a thing about it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You wouldn't do that today. Never.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Like I am out of here by ten thirty.
On the rare occasion I come down in the evening,
I'm out of here by ten thirty. Why, because nothing
good happens in this city. You can't even say after
midnight happens or midnight a lot of the time now.
So I'm not some guy who's like, oh, I'm so
afraid of Indianapolis. No, I just know the reality of it.
But I know what the city wants was. I know
(06:10):
it's a place that used to enjoy coming. It was
a place that, under Ballard as mayor, used to be
a relatively safe place to go, especially if you behaved
in a certain shape, form or fashion and knew where
to walk and not walk, and it was all fine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You'd never do that now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So for the people are trying to do some victory
lap because it was Mark Sanchez allegedly being the aggressor
rather than this this guy who appears to be the victim. No,
nothing's changed. This place is still a cesspool of awful.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I live downtown in Indianapolis, and I don't go out
after eight pm when the sun goes down. I don't
go out because I just I don't feel safe. And
there have been times where I wanted to run up
to the gas station, maybe buy a candy bar.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And the dude won't let me go by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nope, I'm going with you or go for me, because
we are so used to the stories of the crime
in this city. Now, how about Governor Braun clapping back
to Ryan Meres saying, if one deleted tweet finally gets
Ryan Mears to start paying attention to the violent crime
epidemic in our capital city, putting violent criminals behind bars
and keeping Indianapolis safe, then I will start deleting more tweets.
(07:22):
He's saying that the deleted tweet got the attention of
Ryan Meres.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And if that's all, he'll do that more often.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you look like a Braun looks like a total whimp.
And his little assistant, Micah, also did the same thing.
Who said same, Yeah, that's Micah's response after he deleted
a tweet. Same what a tough guy price. By the way,
can someone explain to me from the Lieutenant Governor's office? Anyone,
Caitlin Graham, any of you people send me you know
(07:49):
how to get ahold of me?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Rob at WIBC dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Can any of you people or the new guy they've
hired as the communications director, whoever any of you people,
why the Lieutenant governor refuses to comment on the IED audit?
Can someone from that office explain to me we are
on what day five to six? Why the Lieutenant governor
who literally ran I heard him give the speeches I
heard him in the debate about what a rotten, terrible,
(08:13):
underhanded organization the IEDC is. And then there's an audit
that proves exactly what he said.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And now he's quiet, This guy who can't.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Sprint to the nearest camera fast the one time he
was actually right about something.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Who is he afraid of?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Is he getting his marching orders from the governor right
he has to?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
At this point, he's clearly very afraid of doing anything
that's going to piss brought up, which also leads us
to the interesting thing that Mica and his people know
the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating their office allegedly
for a variety of things. But we know at least
one thing they're investigating because it's been confirmed, and that
moron or whoever is in charge of his social media
(08:53):
is getting mouthy with the Marion County Prosecutor, who holds
your fate and future in his hands. But because they
have the political sense of a NAT, they're getting mouthy
with the guy who's going to decide what happens to
your office. What a brilliant maneuver by those people over there.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Can we talk about who the big winner was over
the weekend in regards to this story. If you want
to say there was a winner, it was Angela Ganotte
who was reporting on this right away, and she took
a lot of heat for just reporting the facts, putting
out the police report. She was like, just wait until
the whole story comes out, and then it finally did,
(09:30):
and she was right all along.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what do we just want to, like, hyprob before
we go to break. Let it know where we're at
on this. So he has he being Mark Sanchez has
posted bond?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The New York Post is reporting that he was discharged
from the hospital and he has reportedly posted a three
hundred dollars cash bond before being formally booked.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, So if he was going to do an act
of violence, he's come to the right place. He's done
it in the right city, because we don't take violence
serious here in the city of Indianapolis. Are they all
still misdemeanor charges because the like Max Lewis and some
other people posted photos of the victim or the alleged victim.
How is that they're all missed a meaning? How is
(10:17):
that possible?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It looks like it should be more than that, doesn't
it because those pictures.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Were off Holy smokes?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, feel feel awful for him. He apparently, it seems,
was just trying to do his job and didn't hear
Mark Sanchez at first because he didn't have his hearing
aids in.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
And why was Mark Sanchez in an alley?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
What's he doing back there?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
These are things they're gonna come that are to come
very very quickly. I think a lot of this stuff's
gonna start to come out because none of it makes
any sense.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Look, when he was discharged from the hospital yesterday morning,
he was immediately taken to the Marion County Jail for
central book.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah alright, so, and it's I think sanch his court
appearance is tomorrow, correct, like tomorrow morning?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Is uh? Is his quarter Parens
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