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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, So still a lot of moving parts with
the Mark Sanchez saga. It's Kinel Casey John Rob, that's case.
He joined in the studio by WBC Newsmad extraordinaire Ryan Hedrick.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Ryan, Hello, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Rob? How are you okay? So morning case.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So it came out yesterday that there was a little
confusion on this, but that Mark Sanchez has secured the
services of the firm connected with Jim Boyles, who is
arguably the most high profile attorney in the city of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, and he's in London right now with an Alex Palo. Yeah,
with Alex Pelos.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
So I called him yesterday to see if there was
some way that we could get a comment and he
kind of laughed and said, I'm not going to comment.
And I said, well, would you consider commenting after the
case is done? And he laughed again. He said, listen,
I'm trying to be nice, but I'm not going to comment.
I'm never going to comment about any cases I'm involved with.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So Luke and Meyer. Luken Meyer is his sort of
right hand person. I think she's handling this right now.
So obviously I don't think this is anybody's surprise, Sanchez
is sparing no expense in his legal defense.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, everybody has a dream team, right, oj had a
dream team that got him off. So this is Mark
Sanchez's version of a dream team, and I guess he
needs it. After the Marion County Prosecutor filed a felony charge,
bringing a total of four charges now three misdemeanors and
one felony for the serious bodily injury that he caused.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Now, the other big public news I want to get
to how you spent your day yesterday, was that Now
there is a civil lawsuit that's been filed.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, there's no punitive like amount damage, but I guess
this guy is disfigured. Now, the sixty nine year old
grease delivery guy who was up until a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
In a legal immigrant, he is now in whoaho.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh yeah, that's the way say that again.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So he was up in until a couple of weeks ago,
not living here legally. He was in the process. Oh okay, yeah,
he was in the process. So this is not a
case involving an illegal immigrant. He's now an American citizen,
and he was celebrating the fact that he was making
the most of his opportunities in America, and his family says, look,
he was just trying to do his job when he
(02:20):
was attacked by Mark Sanchez. So now he's in a
neck brace's he's battered, bruised and beaten, and he's still recovering.
I reached out to his attorney, Eric May this morning.
We sent him an email to see if he talk
about this because he's making the media rounds. I think
he was on CBS News last night. He did not
get back to me as of what nine to thirty,
(02:42):
so waiting to hear from him.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Ryan Hendrick from the WBC newsroom is is our guest.
He spent much of his day yesterday, and we'll get
to that here in a second. Digging on what actually
took place or alleges alleged have taken place with the
whole Mark Sanchez saga.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Casey, Yeah, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
So part of this lawsuit that the alleged victim is
bringing is also against Fox because they're saying that they
were unfitness as an employer and that Mark Sanchez had
a propensity for drinking, yeah, and or harmful conduct. Is
this something they're gonna have to like prove over like
this is a pattern of behavior.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I think they're probably gonna have to do that because
I know when people are like high risk and they're
hired by companies, they usually have to divulge their past
and come clean and you know, swear on a stack
of bibles that they're not going to do this stuff again.
I don't know if Sanchez. I've never heard of Sanchez misbehaving.
I've never heard of him getting an OWI or DWR
(03:38):
beating up people in public, So I don't know the
gist of that complaint. I mean, I guess that he's
saying that his employer should be fully accountable for everything
he does off the clock. It's not like Sanchez beat
this guy up at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, I want to ask you about this because this
is your take your reporter hat off for a second.
Your wheelhouse is you know, you're you've admitted this and
you've spent much of your last several years helping people
with addictions because of your struggle with the addiction. When
a guy has no history of this, like, it's one
thing if you and maybe does have a history of
it, it just never got reported, But it's just kind of
weird that in casey were talking about this off air
(04:16):
that he Okay, let's say the guy did drink too much,
which are or do something too much, which I believe
is at those harder sort of these allegations. Is it
possible that somebody did something to him that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
He made him act that way? I used to consumingly.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm just trying to figure out how if you don't
have a propense that he to do this, that it
gets to this point.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think that's what people are struggling with.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, Well, on the Supporting Sobriety podcast that myself and
Matt Bear host, I've been upfront about my struggle. So
in two thousand and seven, I thought I was going
to get black bald from radio. I was working in
Baltimore at was then a thirteen hundred AM. It was
an ESPN radio station that at the time Dan Patrick
had an afternoon show, his syndicated show with Rob Dibble
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if you could remember that, And I was doing sports
updates during Dan Patrick's syndicated show. And at the time
I had a really bad drug problem using I was
covering the Orioles and the Washington Wizards, and the Baltimore Ravens.
I was kind of all over the mid Atlantic map.
And when they had to fire me because I didn't
show up for a sports update for one day, a
(05:21):
no call, no show, My boss Dave Librosi, who has
since retired, told me that if we continue to employ you,
you are now a liability because of your drug using
and your alcohol using, and we can't account for anything
that you may do in a public setting, especially because
I had credentials to cover these teams and that special access.
(05:42):
So those words really resonated with me. As I'm covering
Mark Sanchez's story, I can totally dig where the plaintiffs
side is coming from. Because if and when Fox Sports
decides to take disciplinary action against him, say they keep
him on staff, does this again, say at a Christmas
party or something, they could be on the hook.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And this is a totally naive question, but is it
possible somebody did something to a drink or something, because
it just doesn't seem like bike.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
To drink from Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, I'm not saying that it happen. I'm just saying
it's just I think this is what people are struggling with.
Is as you said, at least publicly. And you've looked
into this, and you're a great reporter, there doesn't appear
to be any track record of, hey, the guy gets
violent and beats people up.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Or you know, you don't know what he drank though.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean I used to sort of say, yeah, I
used to drink one hundred proof liquor. I mean, this
stuff was just I used to mix it with coke
and not not cocaine, just co cockaine. Sure, And when
I mixed this hundred proof with coke, I got angry.
I got very confrontational. So I mean, we're just hypothesized
right now.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Right well, his friends and his former teammates, they're starting
to speak out and they're saying that he's such a
nice guy and they just is so out of character,
and they even said that they want to investigate and
get to the bottom of what happened. Like it sound
like he's partially a victim in this.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Well, I mean he's going to play the victim because
he's on the defensive right now. Not only is he
on the hook for the felony charge in three misdemeanors,
but he's on the hook for potentially millions and millions
and millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean, Voiles is not.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Gonna work pro bono, right, this is going to cost
him a lot of money. This is going to cost
him a lot of money and a lot of credibility.
Maybe tear down this reputation. I mean, look at what
Tom Brenneman said, dropped a racial slur on the errand
he's still struggling to get back and he didn't assault anybody.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Ryan Hendrick from the WBC newsroom is our guest. Okay,
so you spent much of your day. I mean this
is just great on the ground reporting, trying to get
information from people that may have been witnesses, that were witnesses.
Kind of can you give us high levels some of
the things that you learned yesterday about what's alleged to
have taken place.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
So the alley is O Sage Street south Ose Sage
Streets technically not an alley. It's a street that runs
between Maryland and West Washington. To the east is North
Senate Avenue.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I went behind the.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
West and because I couldn't figure out exactly where this
fight took place, so I did locate the bay where
this worker was working to trade out the oil in
this fight that the prosecutors and the cops say happened.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So I paced it out and if they.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Started throwing blows by the air the Friar dispensary, it's
about two hundred and thirty seven feet seventy nine yards
three quarters of a football field that Sanchez would have
had to have walked northeast, yeah, northeast up the alley
to West Washington Street, stabbed in the torso because.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
The videos come out now one of these camera street
cams of him, and you could I mean it's a
black and white camera, but you can see him with
the stain and.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Definitely looks like he got stabbed, like right below the
pectoral muscle, because the majority of the blood that is
seen coming from him is right under that pectoral muscle.
So if you took a shot kind of right around
the chest, you'd start bleeding down obviously, not up. And
then he proceeds east up West Washington Street by Pronta
(09:19):
Piete Seria, right where Loupe martine zones that I talked
to him, that's another story. And then he proceeds to
the pub to bang on the window and get help.
At about twelve thirty, but you pointed out how far
he had to go seventy nine yards. That's three quarters
of a football field. So I had a buddy that
got stabbed in a bad drug deal on the South
side of Chicago ten years ago. I called him to
(09:41):
ask him what would Mark Sanchez have had to endure
being stabbed near the chest, and he said two things. Man,
fight or flight or just sheer endurance would have to
win out before you walk that way. And then as
you walk, because he was walking, he got in a
fight with somebody and had to talk to a police station.
(10:01):
Walk in the precinct, maybe about half the distance that
Sanchez did, he said he collapsed. So Sanchez was by
the time he was banging on the window, you could
probably assume that he was aut of gas. He was worried,
he was losing breath, His heart was probably fluttering, and
he's probably having a difficult time breathing at that point.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So he's probably very lucky to be alive for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean, the bartender who was also the general manager,
applied pressure in the wound, called the cops, and I
have a hard time believing that this guy who basically
works in a sports bar didn't know it was Mark Sanchez.
Maybe he didn't, I don't know, but Mark Sanchez is
a pretty recognizable character around here, right, didn't he beat
the colts like yours ago?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Thank you for bringing that, bringing that up.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, Before I let you go, I did want to
ask you this, like, have you sort of put together
sort of what is alleged to have happened? Like, can
you just, like in a minute, sort of explain how
like from the instigation to what happened. So driving in
the road goes okay, Now I get because there's just
so much info out there and they comes in bits
(11:05):
and pieces.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Can you sort of put it together.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
In a just imagine just two guys brawling. They're going
side to side, they're swinging, hitting each other, and Sanchez
is on top of this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And it was over the guy's carving pots.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I mean that's what Ryan Meher said over a
parking spot. I don't know if it was over a
parking spot or the alcohol exacerbated the feelings that Sanchez
just got angrier and angrier.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But imagine guys swinging and kicking and fighting for their lives.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
One guy gets the better part of another guy and
in a panic, reaches up and pokes him in the
chest with the knife and Sanchez staggers back. He's holding
his chest, he's starting to bleed, and he's like, I'm
in trouble here. This guy is probably more than I
could handle at this point. And now he's certainly staggers
three quarters of a football field to do we.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Know what Sancha is on his way back to the hotel.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
No, I don't know that. And I went to two
bars yesterday not to get back my clean time, but
to ask if Sanchez was drinking at those bars along
Maryland's Stream. Nobody would touch it, Nobody would say anything.
One guy at Connor's Pub looked at me and smiled
and said, I don't know anything. So I don't know
anything from nut stand.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, you're going to stay on it. And I told
Casey answer.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I said, if there's one guy I would not want
looking into me, it's you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, I was alleged to do something, folowious.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I did send an email to the property management company
and they have yet to get back to me about
surveillance videos. So I'll share that with all Right.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So there's a pre trial conference which is set for
November fourth, at eight thirty. In the meantime, you're going
to stay on this, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I will definitely the best man. Thank you, thanks for
having me on. You're listening to Kennel and Casey.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It's ninety three WYBC.